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Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot. Hey, welcome to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Black Autils Podcast. I am your host Rod,

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Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host Karen, and we're

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Speaker 1: live on a Sunday Chris Fall Sunday in lovely Charlotte,

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. But through the miracle of the Internet, we

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Speaker 1: are joined from all the way across the pond by

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Speaker 1: Angela Fivs, who you've heard on the show before. She

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Speaker 1: was on an episode almost exactly a year ago, episode

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Speaker 1: Democrats Abroad, where we single handedly won the election for

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden and the Democrats and Kamala Ers and now

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Speaker 1: she's back promoting her new podcast, Black Women in Europe.

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Speaker 1: What's going on, Angela?

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Speaker 2: Oh, hey, A lot's going on. A lot's changed since

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Speaker 2: the last time that we've been here. Yeah, we did

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Speaker 2: win the election, thanks to you guys for sure, and

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Speaker 2: uh yeah, we've also almost lost our democracy. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: a lot of other stuff is still is going on.

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Speaker 2: And we're here today to talk about well we me

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Speaker 2: and Adrian, who's having technical difficulties I guess, to talk

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Speaker 2: about our new adventure. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, first of all, before I even ask you about

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Speaker 1: black women in Europe? What is it? What was it

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Speaker 1: like watching the insurrection from over across these like what

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Speaker 1: do people think of this country now?

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Speaker 2: Right? Well, you know, okay, people don't want to believe.

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Speaker 3: They still don't want to believe we're crazy, right.

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Speaker 2: They they still want to believe that we're like this

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Speaker 2: good place. You know. When that when that coup at

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Speaker 2: tempt happened, I happened to be in a Democrats Abroad meeting.

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Speaker 2: It was our regional meeting, and which yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was was you know, we have a meeting once

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Speaker 2: a month, and we're all in the meeting and then

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Speaker 2: somebody just interrupts and it's like, oh my god, you

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Speaker 2: have to turn on the TV and see what's happening

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Speaker 2: because we're just all in this meeting and we're not

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Speaker 2: thinking about, you know, the outside world so much. And

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Speaker 2: then we turned on the we were in online meeting,

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Speaker 2: of course, and we turned on somebody turned on one

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Speaker 2: of the news channels online and we just sat there

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Speaker 2: and watched all together. There must have been like forty

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Speaker 2: of us and we were just like we were just

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Speaker 2: watching it. These all these are all Americans, all people

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Speaker 2: all across the Middle East, Europe and you know Africa

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Speaker 2: watching this together, and.

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Speaker 3: I have to say it was horrifying. It was horrifying.

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Speaker 2: It was so hard, horrifying that we're all trying to

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Speaker 2: figure out what we can do, who we can call

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Speaker 2: because we're watching this all like where's the National Guard,

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Speaker 2: where's the military, where's the more, where's more police, where's somebody?

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Speaker 2: You know? And I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It was it was very very shocking, you know.

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Speaker 2: It was. Yeah, it was very disturbing to and when

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Speaker 2: you go back and look at like some of the

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Speaker 2: video things that Vice and other news people have put together,

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Speaker 2: it's even more horrifying. Yes, yes, it's yeah.

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Speaker 1: They had they've brought people before Congress to testify and

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Speaker 1: officers to talk about the day, and they had like

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Speaker 1: the time. And I mean it was a cool attempt,

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Speaker 1: you know, And it was is shocking because one America

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Speaker 1: prize itself on this can never happen here, which you know,

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Speaker 1: other thing though, is they're still to this day an

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Speaker 1: the same time whenever they vote about, you know, doing

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Speaker 1: should be one hundred percent. It doesn't matter what your

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Speaker 1: We can't have that. And I want to say, Nancy

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Speaker 1: I don't think people understand how important this was.

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Speaker 1: No, I. And this is the thing.

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Speaker 4: A lot of what happened is whiteness not wanting to

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Speaker 4: check whiteness. And if you don't address that problem, we

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Speaker 4: can't move forward. And that's very hard white people. So

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Speaker 4: white people do something. And it's gonna take white people

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Speaker 4: to look at their brothers, their sisters, their loved ones,

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Speaker 4: their husbands, their wives, their cousins, their relatives and be like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: more of them in masses to be like, no, you

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Speaker 4: try to take over the country, like, we cannot and we.

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Speaker 1: Will not stand for this.

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Speaker 4: And the politicians that you voted in office, you need

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Speaker 4: to hold them accountable for voting against this. So when

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Speaker 4: it's time to vote in November, vote them out of

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Speaker 4: office and be like, no, we want people in office

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Speaker 4: that's going to do a true investigation. Because all this

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Speaker 4: does is have the populace, have all these conspiracy theories

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Speaker 4: and all this made up stuff because people don't know

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Speaker 4: were a lot of people involved that don't want you

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Speaker 4: they're doing everything they can to cover it up because

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Speaker 4: it was too much information.

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Speaker 1: They knew too much stuff.

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Speaker 4: You had people going and say, when I went to

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Speaker 4: go push the panic button, it wasn't there.

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Speaker 1: So that means this.

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Speaker 4: Was somebody that knew the protocols and they knew how

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Speaker 4: how this was structured. The only downfall to it is

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Speaker 4: that the people were incompetent and they were posting.

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Speaker 1: Everything online and power.

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Speaker 4: But if you get it, if this ever will happen

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Speaker 4: again and you get somebody organized, it will not end this.

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Speaker 1: Way and it will end very badly.

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Speaker 2: So you have to nip this at the bud.

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Speaker 1: You have to root it out.

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Speaker 2: You have to clean house.

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Speaker 4: You have to go in and say we're investigating everybody

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Speaker 4: that was here, and we're going to comb your social media.

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Speaker 4: We're going to see what you were doing, We're going

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Speaker 2: You just cannot be here.

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Speaker 4: But until you root out that and clean that out,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna continue to have this resistance of people going nah,

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Speaker 4: nah nah, And the thing is the actually because we're

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Speaker 4: living an age of social media, and social media is

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Speaker 2: It's like ooh, it's a penia.

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Speaker 4: Ooh, it's a penia, ooh, it's eminem oohs.

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Speaker 1: That the.

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Speaker 4: Memory of American public is short and they know this,

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Speaker 4: and so they know the further you get away from it,

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Speaker 4: the energy is not going to be the same. The

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Speaker 4: a lot of the politicians that we are directly impacted

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Speaker 4: be the same. I cannot opt into whiteness and hope

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Speaker 4: everything's going to be all right. If something like this happened,

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Speaker 4: that die for me to have these rights. How damn

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think also the fog of like American memory

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Speaker 1: It's how people who work at like people they do

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Speaker 1: well there were some there were good slave owners, right.

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Speaker 1: And you know, because our minds are always kind of

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Speaker 1: it's like, no, there needs to be consequences for trying

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Speaker 4: Right, knowing that y'all have family, y'all have friends, y'all

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Speaker 4: And to piggyback on what you were saying about American

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Speaker 4: like we're never gonna forget the Jews. Like the Jews,

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Speaker 1: Darning being specific since Karen's now saying Jews as if

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Speaker 1: people dying during the Holocaust. Yes, obviously because before you

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I was gonna ask, Also, what about having

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Speaker 1: because Joe Biden is president now and obviously he's not Trump,

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Speaker 1: you know, which is which I'm sure helps a lot.

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Speaker 1: But have you seen that as well? Overseas?

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Speaker 2: Yes, everyone is glad that Trump is gone. We can

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Speaker 2: nuclear war or something before he left, which is insanity.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that man was insane, and people just don't

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Speaker 3: Clever or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But he's not. He's crazy with a capital K, and

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Speaker 2: people need to realize that. And if this man ever

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Speaker 2: gets back in office, I don't even know what's going

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Speaker 1: Really, I didn't even say crazy with a capital KKK.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, you know, I would say that

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Speaker 2: our relationships are better now with our you know, partners

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Speaker 2: there's still so many remnants of what Trump did left

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Speaker 2: go to the United States to immigrate. Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 1: And honestly it's because of their voter suppression that this happened.

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Speaker 2: We didn't know, we did not. It's it's insane. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 1: And like even it's like I forget what investigation it was. Oh,

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Speaker 4: And it's very frustrating because I do believe that, like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now what about voting like in these off cycle

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Speaker 1: may be an elected office, and you didn't care. So

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Speaker 1: these are really important elections.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to care about every person that gets elected,

435
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Speaker 2: and especially the school boards elections that are coming up

436
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 2: over the next few years because a lot of people

437
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Speaker 2: on school boards are being threatened because of different issues,

438
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Speaker 2: because of critical race theory or the imagination of critical

439
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Speaker 2: race theory. They're being threatened about masks and different regulations

440
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Speaker 2: about you know, safety for children, some of these. There's

441
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Speaker 2: I read an article today which was I don't even

442
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: remember where it was, but because it was just so terrible.

443
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: It was like these people, all the people on the

444
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Speaker 2: school board, doesn't matter, black, white, They're being threatened and

445
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Speaker 2: they're receiving like hate mail and phone calls and all

446
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Speaker 2: sorts of things talking about like we're gonna get rid

447
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Speaker 2: of you one way or another, which I mean that

448
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Speaker 2: is a threat, Like that's like if you win the election,

449
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Speaker 2: we're just gonna kill you. Yeah, I'm everyone needs to

450
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Speaker 2: vote for everything, and if you live outside of the

451
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Speaker 2: United States and you get a full ballot, because not

452
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Speaker 2: everybody will get a full ballot depending on the laws

453
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Speaker 2: of the state, but if you get one, you need

454
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Speaker 2: to look look it up. Just look just google the

455
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Speaker 2: people's names, right, or look at your the League of

456
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Speaker 2: Women Voters, or look on the Democratic Party for the state.

457
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Speaker 2: They'll tell you who to vote for if you don't know,

458
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Speaker 2: or they'll at least tell you the information, like what

459
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Speaker 2: this person stands for, and then you can easily I

460
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Speaker 2: mean it's going to take you a few minutes to

461
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Speaker 2: do all that, but just imagine it's better that we

462
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Speaker 2: have that you spend like, let's say, two hours on

463
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Speaker 2: your ballot. I mean, I know that's that's probably a lot,

464
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Speaker 2: but two hours looking up stuff on your ballot, rather

465
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Speaker 2: than we spend the next ten years trying to get

466
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Speaker 2: rid of some of these crackpots out of office or

467
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Speaker 2: reverse the damage that they've done.

468
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Speaker 1: Exactly, it's harder to reverse the damage than to keep

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Speaker 1: it from happening in the first place. And then also,

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Speaker 1: how are first of all, what part of Europe.

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Speaker 2: Are you in? White I'm in Germany. I live kind

472
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Speaker 2: of near Frankfurt.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's a place people know.

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Speaker 1: How How are how Frankfurt in your local area Germany?

475
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Speaker 1: How are they handling the pandemic for you?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 2: For me? I mean the pandemic, it's I mean, it's

479
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 2: been stressful, of course, but I mean we have we

480
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Speaker 2: have a lot of rules about what people should do.

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Speaker 2: Right now, I mean most I think we're at seventy

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Speaker 2: five percent of people being vaccinated in Germany and there's yeah,

483
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Speaker 2: but there's still like this, this hardcore group of people

484
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Speaker 2: that just don't want to get a vaccine.

485
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can't and I don't know. Because this

486
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: is the thing. We cover coronavirus news as a segment

487
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: on this show pretty much every episode because we want

488
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Speaker 1: to keep our audience up to day and also to

489
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Speaker 1: keep ourselves up to day. And while a lot of

490
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Speaker 1: resistance that we encounter feels very American, you know, because

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Speaker 1: the way it's couch and freedom of speech and uh,

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Speaker 1: my body, my choice, unless you're pregnant later then there's

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Speaker 1: my choice in your body. But it's funny because all

494
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Speaker 1: these articles I read, I'm like, but they're having pushback

495
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: in everywhere like Australia, New Zealand, Germany, like your French,

496
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Speaker 1: Like it doesn't matter where the place is. There's just

497
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Speaker 1: a hardcore typically conservative like whatever their version of Republican is,

498
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, conservative policy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's more than that. It's like, you know

500
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Speaker 2: this the whole, like QAnon and all these other conspiracies,

501
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: those are here too, and it's like it's like it's

502
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Speaker 2: like like a mirror in a way, like you look

503
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Speaker 2: at the people in the States and how they're acting

504
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: and you have these same people. I watched this video.

505
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Speaker 2: It was like a news report about people who were

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Speaker 2: not getting vaccinated. And they went to this hospital in

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Speaker 2: some town where the hospital, the you know, the ICU

508
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: is full up. People are you know, really sick, and

509
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Speaker 2: they're keep coming and coming and coming because most of

510
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Speaker 2: the people in this town, I think that the town

511
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Speaker 2: was like thirty four percent vaccinated, so people keep coming

512
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Speaker 2: in and getting sick. They talked to a woman. She

513
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Speaker 2: was on a ventilator and she was in artificial coma

514
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Speaker 2: for two weeks, and they asked her, would you like

515
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Speaker 2: to get a vaccination now? And she said, no, I

516
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Speaker 2: don't think so. And it's just like what I mean, what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. When I say like, it feels

518
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Speaker 1: kind of like an ideology of like that mirrors like conservatism,

519
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Speaker 1: Like I think the Q thing is very concerned like

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Speaker 1: the Venn diagram of like very conservative politics and people

521
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Speaker 1: that did like the Q and nine people and you

522
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Speaker 1: probably throw another circle in there for people to store

523
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Speaker 1: in the capitol. Like all that is kind of an overlap,

524
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Speaker 1: not not exactly, because we do have the liberal version

525
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Speaker 1: of that the hip be like I just don't believe

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Speaker 1: in vaccines. You know that that I'm going people, Yeah,

527
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Speaker 1: they're like white California mom, or.

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Speaker 2: I have a good immune system, which I'm just I

529
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Speaker 2: don't know how many times I've heard people say that,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, what does that have to do with

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Speaker 2: getting a disease that your immune system can't fight?

532
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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: You know?

534
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Speaker 1: Also like that would be an argument for why you

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Speaker 1: would want to get vaccinated, Like scientifically, what you're really

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Speaker 1: saying is like, my immune system is so good, it'll

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Speaker 1: really react well to the vaccine. I'll be one of

538
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Speaker 1: these people that can't even get it. I'll be so asymptomatic.

539
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Speaker 1: Is I'm gonna be out here living my whole life

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Speaker 1: like nothing happened. If that's the truth. But then, of

541
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Speaker 1: course a lot of these people get the surprise of

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Speaker 1: their lives when they're on a ventilator. Like, I guess

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Speaker 1: my immune system one up for the challenge, do y'all?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do y'all?

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Speaker 4: Or can y'all get booster shots? Because I know here

547
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Speaker 4: in the States, you know certain people like me.

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Speaker 1: Right, I just started booster shots here in America? Do

549
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Speaker 1: y'all have that?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. And if you know what, I

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Speaker 2: take that back. I think I heard my husband mentioned

552
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Speaker 2: that to one of his employees. We've been at home

553
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Speaker 2: working for the past you know, however long, so we're

554
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: always together. My husband is just over there, my husband.

555
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: So it's been yeah. But yeah, I think some of

556
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Speaker 2: the older people, like over seventy or something like that

557
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: might get it, but.

558
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Speaker 3: We just anybody under sixty.

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Speaker 2: I think when did when did we get when did

560
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Speaker 2: we get vaccines? It was like starting in June of

561
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: this year, that's when we were able to get vaccines

562
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Speaker 2: if you were under so it was like they did

563
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Speaker 2: like eighties and nineties, you know, seventies, and then anybody

564
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Speaker 2: under sixty, which is everyone else, they was starting in June.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think we're up to boosters for everybody.

566
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Speaker 2: But in a way, I don't really feel like I

567
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Speaker 2: need a booster, I know, I mean maybe I'm not.

568
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: I'm not over optimistic about it. It's just that right now,

569
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Speaker 2: we're still wearing masks when we go, you know, out, and.

570
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Speaker 3: Well you also working.

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Speaker 1: You also just say you have like seventy five percent

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Speaker 1: of people vaccinated. So your reality and comfort comfort like

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Speaker 1: and what I like is when you said seventy five

574
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Speaker 1: percent in your face to kind of look like man,

575
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Speaker 1: but we really like it's really a little too low

576
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Speaker 1: for me. And here in America, seventy percent is heaven.

577
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Speaker 1: Like it's like, oh my god, utopia. We can like

578
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Speaker 1: exist around each other. I can't believe three fours of

579
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Speaker 1: people are getting vaccinated. I want to say, in my

580
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Speaker 1: very liberal county or whatever, we might be a little

581
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Speaker 1: over fifty percent. Like it's yeah. So like when they

582
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: offered the boosters here, I was like, let me just

583
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Speaker 1: go ahead and get boosted up, because I don't know

584
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Speaker 1: what these fools are thinking. Man, Like some of these

585
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: people are just out the lunch and it's been over

586
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 1: a year and a half in the pandemic. So, like,

587
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Speaker 1: I'm not convinced anything except the Joe Biden like job

588
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Speaker 1: mandate stuff. I'm not convinced anything's gonna work except if

589
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Speaker 1: you want to have a job, you need to get vaccinated.

590
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Speaker 1: Have they passed those type of laws.

591
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Speaker 2: There, No, No, they haven't. It's I mean, in a way,

592
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Speaker 2: it's not necessary in a certain way. But on the

593
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Speaker 2: other hand, there's, like I said, there's this hardcore group

594
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Speaker 2: of people that just and it doesn't matter if they're working.

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Speaker 2: Some of them are working in hospitals, some of them

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Speaker 2: are working in doctor's offices, you know, some of them

597
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Speaker 2: are teachers. Like there's no way to really determine like

598
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Speaker 2: who's not who's going to be. Again, it's a vaccine,

599
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Speaker 2: you know, because it's really spread out some people. Some

600
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: people wouldn't have I've heard people say they wouldn't have

601
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: gotten it if except their parents are older and they

602
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Speaker 2: didn't want to, you know, kill their parents, so that's

603
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Speaker 2: why they got it. So not everybody has that, So

604
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to come to that yet,

605
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: but it might. One of the things that it is

606
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: coming to is that a lot of places won't let

607
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Speaker 2: you in, like restaurants and bars and things like that,

608
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Speaker 2: if you don't have a vaccination. It used to be

609
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Speaker 2: they have. It's three it's called three g which I

610
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: won't tell you the German but in English it's either

611
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Speaker 2: vaccinated or tested, or.

612
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Speaker 3: You're recovered from corona.

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Speaker 2: So those are the three g's, and a lot of

614
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Speaker 2: people are dropping one of those g's, which is tested,

615
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: and it's just either you've been recovered and you have

616
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Speaker 2: have proof, or you have to have been vaccinated, and

617
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 2: some places are just if you've only been if you've

618
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Speaker 2: been vaccinated, you can come in right.

619
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw. I was reading an article today about Apple,

620
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Speaker 1: the company Apple, and they changed their employment qualifications for

621
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Speaker 1: like coronavirus to like, you just need to be vaccinated.

622
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Speaker 1: Because at first it was you can get tested if

623
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Speaker 1: you don't want to be vaccinated, and they were like,

624
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: oh no, no, they were you can be unvaccinated and

625
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Speaker 1: you can work here, or you can, but you got

626
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Speaker 1: to get tested like once a week or something. Now

627
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Speaker 1: you have to get tested every time you come into work.

628
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

629
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Speaker 1: I think I think the goal is, you know, to

630
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Speaker 1: some extent, to make this as inconvenient as possible for

631
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Speaker 1: you to be unvaccinated, so that you'll just do it,

632
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Speaker 1: you know, And because I think at the end of

633
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Speaker 1: the day, at least what the data we saw in America,

634
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: when you just tell people listen, do this, or don't

635
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 1: get a check in a country where most people are

636
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: two weeks away from being broke, they're gonna just do it.

637
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: They do so many other things to keep a job,

638
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Speaker 1: they're just gonna do it. Because all the other appeals

639
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: we had, education outreach empathy, science, you know, all these

640
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: things we tried. Just there's a contingent of people, as

641
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: you said, that are just very hardcore against us, And

642
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: to me, their reasoning doesn't even make sense, like, oh,

643
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: it'll be like it's religious reason. I'm like, but you've

644
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: been vaccinating for other things. You know, this doesn't what

645
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: part of the Bible or whatever it is you worship.

646
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: What where? Where did did they predict twenty twenty the

647
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: coronavirus vaccine? No, so we have to deal with that

648
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: type of stuff that is really outlandish to me.

649
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Speaker 4: Do y'all have where children can get vaccinated? Chat or y'all, Oh,

650
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 4: it's just for adults only.

651
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: I think they I think they might be down to

652
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: like third age thirteen. They haven't quite approved it for

653
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: you know, what is it this five to twelve group?

654
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: I know they just did that in the States, but

655
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: they haven't done it yet. But the kids here wear

656
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: masks to school.

657
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, well that's nice. That must be nice.

658
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it doesn't make any sense not to

659
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: real these are like, yeah, it's it's.

660
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: Having you on is like my favorite and and least

661
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: favorite show at the same time. So I was like, oh, man,

662
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: what's it like over there and you're just like, oh,

663
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: seventy five percent vaccinated. You can't go nowhere unless you

664
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Speaker 1: got the vaccine. And then over here is just like

665
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: you know, you walk outside of the house and you

666
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: got to put on a like a hazmat too. Because

667
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: people are out there saying it's for their freedom. And

668
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: I love that, you know, at least with the children,

669
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: people could come together and be like, obviously these children

670
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: need to wear masks, and there's not you know, no

671
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: one's going to the school board and hurting anybody or whatever.

672
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 4: No.

673
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Speaker 2: And you know what I found out just a couple

674
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 2: of weeks ago that you can't home school in Germany.

675
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: It's not possible.

676
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: They don't let you.

677
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 3: Wow, I think it's fabulous.

678
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you guys have to come over here and

679
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: get that mask.

680
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 2: It's not like what you can't do is be at

681
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 2: the house.

682
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: You absolutely need to come on in here.

683
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you have to go to you have to

684
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: go to school. You can't be taught at home or

685
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 2: something like that, like as a substitute. I mean, yes,

686
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: in Corona they were doing it online for you last

687
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 2: year for parts of the year, but I mean in general,

688
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: so there's no people like for a religious reason, you

689
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 2: can't keep your children at home and teach them nonsense.

690
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, So let's talk about what the newest project

691
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: you're working on, Black Women in Europe, which is a

692
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: podcast that you're doing with Adrian. Can you tell us

693
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: like what it's about and how you know, how how

694
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: you're getting started and what made you come up with

695
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: this idea?

696
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: Well, actually the podcast is what's new. Adrian has been

697
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: running Black Women in Europe as a nonprofit for the

698
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 2: past fifteen years, and in December it'll be our fifteenth anniversary.

699
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 2: I knew. I just came on board last month and

700
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be doing the podcast with Adrian and a

701
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 2: few other things.

702
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: We're basically going to spotlight.

703
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: Black women in Europe because most people don't realize that

704
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: there's lots of us, thousands of us one could say

705
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 2: millions of us living in Europe and whether we've been

706
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: living here our whole lives, because there's a lot of

707
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: black people that were actually born here. There's citizens of

708
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: these various countries or people that have come to come

709
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: from Africa or the United States to live in Europe.

710
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: And we're doing a lot of interesting things as black

711
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: women in Europe. We're going to be try to some

712
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: to some various cities, Like we're gonna go to Amsterdam,

713
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: and actually it's not Amsterdam, it is stat Hag, where

714
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 2: it is. There's a woman, a black woman who's started

715
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: a like a day spa for that's that highlights for

716
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: black women. So she focuses on black women, which is like,

717
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that so much. So we're gonna

718
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: do some live stuff from there and talk to her.

719
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 2: We've got women who are running tour agencies. We've got

720
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Speaker 2: women who are doctors, professors, lawyers, or just normal women

721
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Speaker 2: like myself.

722
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Speaker 3: Right, it's an average woman.

723
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean it's always interesting because black women

724
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: are always doing so much stuff uncredited, unheralded.

725
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Speaker 2: You know.

726
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: It's like you started talking to a random black woman

727
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: at the grocery store and then like five minutes later,

728
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: you're like, you got how many PhDs? You?

729
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: What?

730
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 4: Right?

731
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: How many languages? What? I'm going to get another one?

732
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Speaker 4: They were like, I got a double major, I gotta

733
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 4: degree in this. You know, I decided I didn't like

734
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 4: this field.

735
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Speaker 1: And whether a secret Black women Olympics or something, I

736
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: don't know no one.

737
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 4: Thing I do can say that I love about black

738
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 4: women is that we will create our own pathway, not

739
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 4: that other people don't do this.

740
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: We will create our own pathway.

741
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 4: We'll get into a field and realize, oh, it ain't

742
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 4: enough for us here.

743
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: Well, what we're gonna.

744
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: Do is start branch off, start our own.

745
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 4: And promote nothing but us, like, we will find a

746
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 4: way to love and support us because we're black women

747
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 4: are our own biggest cheerleaders. If ain't nobody else cheering

748
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 4: for you, baby, it's another black woman cheering for you.

749
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Speaker 4: You might not know her name because I'm and not

750
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 4: to get off top, but sometimes I be on line

751
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 4: I see a black woman like I'm doing this and

752
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 4: I'm doing great. I'm be like, girl, heresy, here's twenty

753
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 4: five dollars in your pay pal. I don't know what

754
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 4: you're doing, but you fabulous, speak up, go.

755
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: Yes. And that's that's what we're gonna do. We're celebrating

756
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 2: black women because most people don't realize what all black

757
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: women are doing, especially in Europe. Everyone you know, people

758
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: might see a black woman and think, oh, she's I

759
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: don't know a house, I don't know what's the English word, Bob,

760
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: what is a puts frau?

761
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: Oh, pus frau a housekeeper?

762
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: Yeah? Sorry, Sometimes sometimes the words just don't.

763
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: Know no, no, you said pusrow We know yeah, yeah.

764
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, like she's or that she's you know, only working

765
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Speaker 2: at a restaurant or something like this as a waitress.

766
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: But black women in Europe are are doing all sorts

767
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: of things. They're doing science, they're doing medicine, they're doing astronomy,

768
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 2: they're doing space things.

769
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 3: They're doing all sorts of things.

770
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Speaker 2: And we're gonna, in fact, the Miss Ireland for this

771
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: year that's gonna go to the Miss Universe pageant. She's

772
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: actually black Irish.

773
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I mean I think we're gonna try to

774
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: get her. Yeah. I think it's also that thing too,

775
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: where like you'll probably be able to get a lot

776
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: of good guests because it's like, I don't know why

777
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: this is true, but as soon as whiteness sees somebody

778
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: is black, it's like they it's like, oh, well, then

779
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: we're not we don't have to be interested in this

780
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: to where it's like, well, if I'm so, my point being,

781
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: you can be the number one whatever black person in

782
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: this field, and then people will be like you'll get

783
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: less interviews, and you'll get less podcast appearances, and you'll

784
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: get less media attention in pr which is unfair, but

785
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: it'll actually provide y'all with some great opportunities to get

786
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: some good guests, I hope, and have some candid conversations

787
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: specifically because of that, because of who you're highlighting and

788
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: the people you know and y'all be, and who y'all are,

789
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: so that that that sounds like it's gonna be cool.

790
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: I also like the emphasis on like not necessarily having

791
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: to have everybody be you know, like the Nobel Peace

792
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: Prize winner, like, because everyone has a story, and I

793
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: think they do way too often the stories that of

794
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: just people that maybe don't seem so phenomenal, you know

795
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like if you put a resume down

796
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 1: that no one's going to be like, oh my god,

797
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: But like I don't know how you how'd you come

798
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: become a waitress? Was what was a path? Oh you're

799
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: not even from here, so how did you get here?

800
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: You know?

801
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: Like that kind of thing. You never know what people

802
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: are going through. So I love when people interview just

803
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: kind of the run of the meal quote unquote walk

804
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: of life people, slice of life stuff.

805
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I love okay, I love talking to people. But

806
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: what I like, what I like more is finding out

807
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: where they've come from, what their story is, how they

808
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: got here, because you know, when you just look at somebody,

809
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: you have no idea what they've been through to get

810
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: to where they are at all. And a lot of

811
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 2: people have some real fascinating lives, more fascinat then maybe

812
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: some of the more famous people, right, you know where

813
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 2: that just you know, I when I graduated from high school,

814
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: I went to Harvard, and suddenly I was wealthy and famous.

815
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: You know that's not really a you know, really a story.

816
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like, And I think also like people tend

817
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: to see and hear those stories so often that it's

818
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: kind of hard to be surprised or that person has

819
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: done a million interviews, so like everybody knows, like now

820
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: you're now. The hard part for you is coming up

821
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: with a question they haven't been asked, which is always like,

822
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 1: oh my god, But there's only people that haven't been

823
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 1: talked to, you know. We when the pandemic first started,

824
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: I interviewed a couple of people that were like, one

825
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: was an epidemiologist. Uh, the other one, Uh, she's a

826
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: scientist that and so it was cool to talk to them,

827
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: but like I know a lot of people weren't talking

828
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: to them, you know. So it's kind of like, here's

829
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: this opportunity to get this information out here, but here's

830
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: also this I life for you. And also I do

831
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: want to know your story because how does someone become

832
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: an epidemiologist? What is the path? How is the path

833
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: different for you as a black woman than it was

834
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: for other people, because that's always another angle to it.

835
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: And also hear you said you'll be traveling, Like what

836
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: so how did you work out the traveling thing? And

837
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 1: do you just go like listen over here, they got

838
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: a good spa over here, they got a nice a

839
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: music park. I think I want to go see I

840
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: want to eat some red food at this place.

841
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: Is that? Is that how you decide or that it's

842
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: kind of like that, Yeah, you know, like, oh this

843
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: seems interesting, let's go check it out, you know. I

844
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 2: mean that's basically we're just doing. We're just looking at

845
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: what's out there and going to visit whatever we can.

846
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we can't visit everything, but we

847
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 2: can we can visit as many things as we can,

848
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: and maybe we'll do some meetups because Adrian has created

849
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: a great following over this past fifeen years and we're

850
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: going to try to do some things to expand it.

851
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 3: And reach out to people.

852
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: We're going to start well, there already is a directory

853
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: about buying black in Europe, so we're going to add

854
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: some more people to this list as many as we can,

855
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: different professions, Like what I would love is to find

856
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: a black dermatologist. Oh my god, you just don't know.

857
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, a lot of people really don't understand

858
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 4: when it comes to our skin. When we get rashes

859
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 4: and breakouts and things like that, it's not looked upon

860
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 4: the same. And also when we get it because of

861
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 4: our skin tone, it might not appear.

862
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: The same, but we know it's something wrong there.

863
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 4: And a lot of our rashes and outbreak and acmea

864
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 4: stuff is overlooked because they don't understand the pigmentation of

865
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 4: our skin and how our skin tone can matter when

866
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 4: it comes to these things.

867
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember in high school when they would have

868
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: like the stuff for pimples and stuff, and all the

869
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: stuff that was in the store was not really for

870
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: black people's skin because it would dried out, yes, and

871
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: make it dark. Yeah, it was all like dry your

872
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: skin as dry as possible. That'll fix it. And like

873
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, that doesn't seem right, you know, Like, and

874
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: it takes My mom was a mautician at the time,

875
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: so it takes like that, you know, a cosmetologist or whatever,

876
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: like it takes that kind of knowledge of someone like no,

877
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: put this on there, to use this lotion, use this cream,

878
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: wash with this thing, and that that knowledge isn't always

879
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: readily available. And in a lot of these fields, with

880
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: them being like either discriminatory or just like extremely old

881
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: boy network, it's hard to even find people in that

882
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: field that have made it through the rigor to like

883
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: to be like, I'm a black dentist, you know. And

884
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: it's not like if you're a black dentist, you know,

885
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: you put that on your billboard. It's not like, hey,

886
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: black Dentistry dot Com, Like you're gonna just be like,

887
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: you know, John Smith the dentists, and then there's no

888
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: real directory or way to find out in so many cases.

889
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that's gonna be, like I said,

890
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 1: a really cool topic. And then it's also something that

891
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: you can do forever you know, as many black people

892
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: as there are, as many black women as there are

893
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: is how many shows you can do and if not

894
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: bring them back twice? You know, come on, yes, exactly.

895
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of ground that we're going

896
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: to cover that are that are focused on black women

897
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 2: and men also in Europe. But we're gonna also talk

898
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: about some things like try to keep people like up

899
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: on the news about what's going on that might affect

900
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: them also just I mean, you know, there's a lot

901
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 2: of people don't maybe can't read the language of the country,

902
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: and it doesn't have anything to do with like your

903
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: level of education or something. Just you know, you might

904
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: be able to speak a language, but you might not

905
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: be able to sit down and read a newspaper to

906
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 2: figure out, you know in detail or yeah, or maybe

907
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: you just don't even know where to go, especially if

908
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 2: you're new. So we're trying, we're gonna try to help

909
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: inform people so that they also they can know what's

910
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: going on a little bit better, uh, be more involved

911
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: in their communities, meet other people that are like them,

912
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 2: find things to do where of course we're not going

913
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: to stop our GTV work, uh for sure, but we

914
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: wanted to. We also want to find experts to talk

915
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 2: about racism and things like that in Europe because it

916
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: is different. Yes, you know, yeah, I mean America is

917
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: ridiculously racist, like it's steroids.

918
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people fail to realize.

919
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: That's what I always always here that you know, there

920
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: was like a racism Olympics. We probably be perennial. We're

921
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: the dream team. Oh don't mean that other people ain't

922
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: one spot right, but there's a lot of kind that

923
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: are meddling or trying to medal. It's like a lot

924
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: of people trying to get silver right now. And you

925
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: can see it flaaring up. And I know with with Europe.

926
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 1: You know y'all were experiencing stuff after Brexit, like.

927
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: Shortages like that's no, no England is experienced England. Okayme up,

928
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 2: but no one else is. Yeah, that is all on them.

929
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 4: It was like y'all chosen y'all because because what was

930
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 4: funny about that was like they voted.

931
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: They was like no, no, no, let's vote again.

932
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 4: Let's vote again. They was like, no, we met this.

933
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 4: They was like, are you sure, because y'all do know

934
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 4: that this is going to mess up a lot of

935
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 4: stuff if we leave the EU, y'all, y'all do know

936
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 4: that They was like no, and now they're following uh

937
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 4: kerosene trucks because they think it got gasoline, because can't

938
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 4: nobody get shipped over there concrete trucks?

939
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, this is this has started a while ago.

940
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: I I watched this YouTube channel that escapes me the

941
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 2: name what it is right now, but it's there's a

942
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: there's a guy he lives in the UK. He makes

943
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 2: commentary about the things that are going on. He's been

944
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 2: saying this for months, that that stuff is starting to

945
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: drop off to the stores and now it's like they're

946
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: having real problems and one of their biggest problem is them.

947
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: But the reason, the reason it is is because they

948
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 2: want to be treated like they're in the EU. And

949
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: it's just like, but you were in the EU, so

950
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: I don't I don't understand.

951
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: And yeah, and there's like so much of at least

952
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: what we saw here because you know, obviously we don't

953
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: live there and no, no grand but so much of

954
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: it seemed like this fear of like creeping brownness, like

955
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: there's a lot of browners coming in this country. I'm

956
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: not comfortable with this. We need to get out of this,

957
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: you know.

958
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 2: But it's not just brown. See this is this is

959
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: with them.

960
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 3: It's like if you were.

961
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: Not British, you're not British. Like so if you're from

962
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: we we have a lot of people that come from

963
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 2: Poland and Hungary and places like that that they come

964
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: all over. They're in the EU and they come to work. Well,

965
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 2: they didn't want that. They don't want because how they

966
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: see it is all these foreigners are coming and taking

967
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: our jobs and our welfare and whatever else, and we

968
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: just don't want them around. That's really so everyone is

969
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 2: black if you're not.

970
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: Oh right, Wow, I didn't even see it that. So

971
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: when a way that's more racist, you know, it's like

972
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: in a way that's more racis like like I always

973
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: looked at it, like in America, like I'll read these

974
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: books and they talk about like the eighteen hundreds and

975
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: seventeen hundreds. It's always so funny because it's like they

976
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,479
Speaker 1: treated the Irish like trash and I'm like, yep, I'm

977
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: like the luxury of the racism of seventeen hundred where

978
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: you were like you're the wrong type of white is.

979
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: So it's so distant from now to where it's just

980
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: like yeah, but over there they keep it old school.

981
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: So shout out to Yeah, shout out to England. And

982
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: you're still the wrong time.

983
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: Y'all doing it.

984
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: Man, y'all y'all caping, y'all keeping it real, keeping that

985
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: same energy. I didn't know, But now y'all ain't got.

986
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 2: No kind of crazy, Yeah, y'all.

987
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 4: Now y'all hapen to renegotiate taxes and and things like that.

988
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 1: Now y'all ain't got no petrol. But okay, I guess.

989
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: Worse than that I didn't. Okay again, I'm I'm like

990
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: addicted to YouTube. So that's just my we'll call that

991
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: my secret. But now it's out that there's there was

992
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 2: an I think it was a Nissan factory. It closed,

993
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: like and it took away all the business from They

994
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 2: moved to the EU, and it took away like thousands

995
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: of jobs out of an area. Like they was like,

996
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 2: we don't want to date this, yeah, because but the

997
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: thing is is that the company told them, if you're

998
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: not in the EU, then we're going to have to

999
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 2: leave because that's where most of our businesses. So in fact,

1000
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 2: they just they move this year, like sometime in the summer,

1001
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: it's really sad, you know, like thousands of people without

1002
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 2: a job, and all the businesses in the surrounding areas

1003
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: that we're good are gonna shut down because the people

1004
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: will not be afoid able to use.

1005
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 4: Them all right, Because it's like sometimes you have like

1006
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 4: those factories. It's a centerpoint almost like Detroit where you

1007
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 4: had like all the cars. So when the car places

1008
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 4: shut down, all the areas and all the businesses that

1009
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 4: depending on those people coming in and out start being

1010
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 4: affected too, which means it affects your tax base and

1011
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 4: all that type of stuff.

1012
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: Do you ever just like go on social media like

1013
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: flex on the British people, you know, you know, like,

1014
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: oh look I'm filling up my car. I'm gonna get

1015
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: a full tank right now. Must be nice, you know.

1016
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 2: I have to say I haven't done that because that

1017
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: would be just too mean. But I have been, I

1018
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: have asked. You know, they're always posting stuff, and especially

1019
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 2: the ones that are most of the people I know

1020
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 2: that live in Britain are people that wanted to stay right,

1021
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 2: you know, and they're always like posting their sad little things.

1022
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: I hope none of them are listening right now, but

1023
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 2: they are. They're just posting their sad things, and I'm

1024
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, I think it's okay. And this is

1025
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: probably more irritating when I say, yeah, I think it's

1026
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: okay that you're gone, because because honestly, like all those

1027
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 2: people that voted to leave are not okay, like they

1028
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: have something wrong with them, like they're so it's good

1029
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 2: that we have a border now where you just can't

1030
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: come come in when you want to.

1031
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: It is that thing that that horrible people do that

1032
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: back in the day it would make me feel bad,

1033
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: but now as an older person that I realized the

1034
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: gift they give me. But it's that thing where people

1035
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: are like, I'm a horrible person. If you won't let

1036
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: me be horrible to you either, I'm just gonna leave and

1037
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: I won't talk to you again. And you're like okay.

1038
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 1: You know, back in the day, you could be like, oh, no,

1039
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: I'm you won't talk to me. I'm a bad person.

1040
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 1: Why would you do this to me? Now I'm like, oh, freedom, freedom, Oh,

1041
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: this is what it feels like to not have to

1042
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 1: deal with this. So kind of as a country, they're

1043
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: doing this, they're doing that to everyone else. They're like,

1044
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: well then we just won't we won't deal with you.

1045
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, okay, we.

1046
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 2: Can barely hear you now, Please don't change your mind.

1047
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: It's like, no, don't go please, Oh.

1048
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 4: Y'all, when y'all get tired and come begging and calling back, eventually,

1049
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 4: that's gonna have to change. They're gonna the people, the

1050
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 4: same people to go voted for this. They're gonna get

1051
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 4: mad and they're gonna be like.

1052
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:41,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's your fault.

1053
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 4: He was like, no, y'all voted for this foolishness, voted twice.

1054
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: For it in fact. Right, the thing that the thing

1055
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: that gets me is whenever, because you know, I love food,

1056
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: it's whenever they show a food product they can't get

1057
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: no more. I'm like, oh, that's that's when it's getting real.

1058
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: That's when it gets real for you, is when like

1059
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: in America now we have shortages because of shipping delays

1060
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: and terminals and just you know, a global pandemic, you know,

1061
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: but we have shortages of certain things that come from overseas.

1062
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: And I remember going to the grocery store for weeks

1063
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: being like where there's these rhymen noodles I love and

1064
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing them, and I was just like, I

1065
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: guess they're always restocking or whatever. And then I read

1066
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: in the papers like, yeah, there's a global shortage, and

1067
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: I was like, that would make sense. Yep, yep. You've

1068
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: made a lot of bad decisions here with the mail

1069
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: delivery and with the terminals, and uh, yeah, this is

1070
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: the chickens coming home the roofs. We deserve this.

1071
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I don't know if we've experienced really

1072
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: any shortages here on anything.

1073
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

1074
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: I mean back, you know, last year there were some

1075
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Speaker 2: issues that people had.

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Speaker 3: I think the whole toilet paper.

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Speaker 2: Shortage was everywhere. So yeah, it's kind of weird that

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Speaker 2: that would be the first thing to run out. It is,

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Speaker 2: who would have thought.

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Speaker 1: The weirdest part about that is we've had what a

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Speaker 1: million movies about like the Apocalypse and the Last Days

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Speaker 1: of Earth. We had a million. None of them are

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00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: like in the first the toilet paper. And that's when

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Speaker 1: we the movies lied. The movies all lied. They all

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00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: start were like and people start eating people. I was like, no,

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00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: the sign was the toilet paper was out. And that's

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00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: when you knew that society problem. Society was on the brink,

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00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: like shout out to us because we uh, we only

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00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: bought the good expensive toilet paper, so ours was the

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Speaker 1: last to go.

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Speaker 4: So like people are like, I'm not paying the extegt.

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Speaker 4: I'm not putting extra two dollars.

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Speaker 1: People was like, it's a shortage, but it ain't that short.

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Speaker 1: But we we came in, we were like, oh, we'll

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Speaker 1: be fine, go to the top shelf. All right, bye everybody,

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Speaker 1: We'll just pay the extra money. But yeah, it is

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Speaker 1: interesting in what what has been affected by all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: And it's also interesting that you're that y'all aren't experiencing

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Speaker 1: as much. Y'all still have Merkele right as but she's

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Speaker 1: about to be out right.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there. The election was a couple of i

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Speaker 2: don't know, a couple of weeks ago, and and they

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Speaker 2: haven't quite figured out who the coalition is. I think

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be Wow. I think it's gonna be the SPD,

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Speaker 2: the Green Party and then the FTP, which is the

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Speaker 2: Business Party, which is a weird combination.

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Speaker 3: But Merkel's party is kind of out.

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Speaker 2: Without her, they're nothing, right.

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Speaker 1: So does that mean, well, first of all, do you

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Speaker 1: get the vote in the Germany elections as well.

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01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: Or no, I'm not a I'm not a German citizen,

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01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 2: not yet, but I will be.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep my American citizenship.

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01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 2: But I I just feel like I need to make

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Speaker 2: sure I have a backup citizenship.

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Speaker 1: I would I want one. Yeah, yes, listen if you

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01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: listen and showing y'all selling citizenships. How let us the

1118
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: blackouts is a Gmail. I need a backup playing case.

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Speaker 1: Just don't work out, Okay, it's very precarious over here.

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Speaker 1: Uh you've seen what happened January sixth. I feel like

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01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: it could pop off any day, right, you know, I

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01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: got the plane taking money. Just let us know where

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01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: to show up. I don't care, and I'm not picking.

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01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: You can pick one of these like war torn countries.

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Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. I'll go. It's gotta be

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01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: better than this shit. But but yeah, I like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I feel like doing citizenship is a flex man.

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Speaker 2: I would love to.

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Speaker 1: I would love to have to. You know, well, I

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01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: mean this has been fun. I think, uh you know, uh,

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01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: we had a monkey Rich thrown in a you know,

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01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: a curveball throne. Adrian wasn't able to make it but

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Speaker 1: I feel like we made great podcasting out of this. Yeah,

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01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: and we're you being here. What time is it there?

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Speaker 2: It is eleven sixteen pm?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? What?

1137
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 2: Oh man man? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I did not know.

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Speaker 2: God, you know, it doesn't matter. I know this is

1140
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't say this, but if I went to

1141
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 2: bed at eleven o'clock, I always try.

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Speaker 3: I have a fifth fitch.

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01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I tried to like get to bed early,

1144
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 2: but I'll probably go to bed about one.

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01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: Wow. Well, you know what, we appreciate you for hanging

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01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: out with us, and you know and talking about obviously

1147
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: the Democrats abroad still the election insurrection, Joe Biden and

1148
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: pandemic and all this stuff, because I feel like these

1149
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: little missives from from across the pond is what we

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01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: need sometimes to put things into perspective. Yes, and hopefully

1151
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: one day will be at seventy five percent vaccinated and

1152
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: frowning and going no, that's not that's not right.

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Speaker 4: I want the baby to be SNOOTI too, and throw

1154
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 4: my nose up in the and been like, that's not

1155
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 4: I demand more.

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Speaker 1: It's a citizen, honey. Yes, I am with you on that.

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Speaker 4: And something I wanted to say, ever, since you came

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Speaker 4: on you. I love your hair.

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01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 2: I was looking at our hairs like, oh, I like

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01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 2: your hair hair, thank you so much. Yeah, I'm different

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01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 2: and it's my hair is not blonde.

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Speaker 3: It is white.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like I feel like the stuff like

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Speaker 1: that distinguishes us, Like like when I was younger, they'd

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01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: be stuff. I'm like, oh, I'm secure about this, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's gett older. It's like, this is

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Speaker 1: who I am, and guess what. I'm not like any

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01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: of you and you're not like me. You know, that's

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01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: kind of dope. It was it hard to find somebody

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01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: do your hair. Do you have to do it yourself?

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01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: Is like, what's my gosh situation.

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Speaker 2: If I had to do my hair myself, it would

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01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 2: just be I would have a scarfarm. So that was.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: I have a hairdresser. There's plenty of plenty of African

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Speaker 2: and African American hairdressers over here. My hairdresser is from Ghana.

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Speaker 2: I've had the same hairdresser for about fifteen years or so.

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Speaker 3: She's a great woman.

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Speaker 2: And she's the best. I love that woman so much,

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01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 2: and we've been through so many hairstyles and you know,

1181
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: like everything together beautiful.

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01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: That's a relationship. Like I feel like people always talk

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01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: about the relationship that black men have with their barber,

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01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: but I feel like not enough is made of how

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01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: much like a black woman's relationship where her hairdresser has

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01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: to be because I guess maybe for men, people bring

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01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: it up because it's the only time that men get

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Speaker 1: like committed, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they possibly talk about their feelings.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I'd rather have a bad haircut with you

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01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: than a good haircut with anyone else.

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01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 2: That is how I feel really. I you know, we

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Speaker 2: will me and my hairdresser. Her name is Margaret, and

1194
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 2: we've been through thick and thin, long, short, brown, blonde,

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01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 2: you know, just every possible scenario. So I hope that

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Speaker 2: she doesn't ever decide to retire or something like this.

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01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you. I'll be going showed

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01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: up at our house on the frost up, Like, come

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Speaker 1: on now, Margaret, stop playing, Let's go ahead and get

1200
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: get the sink ready. I'm coming in. Well, tell everybody

1201
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,919
Speaker 1: where to find the podcast or where to find you?

1202
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 2: Oh, where to find me? You can find me on

1203
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 2: almost everything at at fob zy fo BBS, I E

1204
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 2: I'm on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter, and I'm probably on

1205
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of other stuff. But you don't have

1206
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 2: to look for me there, and you can. You can

1207
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: find our upcoming podcast on anchor just search for Black

1208
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 2: Women in Europe. You can find it on all the

1209
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 2: major podcast platforms. And we also have a Facebook page

1210
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 2: for Black Women in Europe if you just search for

1211
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Speaker 2: Black Women in Europe.

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01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 3: We actually have a US.

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01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 2: Page and an overseas page too.

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01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, the the US page is crucial there because

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01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: every time we do one of these episodes, we always

1216
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: get so much feedback that's just black women being like, yeah,

1217
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: so I'm moving over there, so like it's like a

1218
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: gateway drug, Like, yeah, how do I get to Germany?

1219
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: How do I get to Sweden? How do I look

1220
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Speaker 1: all this up? What's Margaret's phone number?

1221
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 4: Me?

1222
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: My air did? Like, so I feel like y'all are recruiting.

1223
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 4: Oh and one more, one more thing before we go,

1224
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 4: And Roger made me think about this we and ask you,

1225
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 4: have y'all seen an increase of people moving oversee since

1226
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 4: like Trump been in office and insurrection, Like, have y'all

1227
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 4: seen you just black people just been like I'm tired

1228
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 4: of America.

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01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 2: Yes, there are tons of people that are moving. Also,

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01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 2: a lot of them are moving to like Ghana because

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01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 2: they have they had this I think it was last year,

1232
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 2: the Return of the Diaspora year, and they're offering free

1233
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 2: citizenships and helping people to get established if they will

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01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 2: come back to Ghana. But we have people. I just

1235
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 2: talked to a lady. Her name is Audrey Edwards. She

1236
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 2: wrote a book called American Runaway, and she left the

1237
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 2: day before Trump was inaugurated. And she's a black woman

1238
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 2: and she moved to Paris. So people are still moving.

1239
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: I've met, actually I've met a lot of people that

1240
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 2: have moved because of Trump.

1241
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: Them all on that podcast. I need to hear the stories.

1242
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: I need to know how they did it so I

1243
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: can follow on their footsteps. I want to get somewhere

1244
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: what a racism is different, because I probably won't even

1245
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: feel it won't even be the you won't.

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01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 2: This is the thing, like you have to be extra

1247
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 2: super sensitive in some ways. I mean, okay, every now

1248
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 2: and then, okay, once a year, the Nazis come to

1249
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 2: my town and they do a demonstration, or I should

1250
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 2: say the neo Nazis. We won't call it the Nazis

1251
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 2: because they're not real Nazis. They're just a bunch of

1252
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 2: punk ass bitches that come here. But but I mean,

1253
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is that, you know, like I think,

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01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: I think I've had I know this isn't true for everybody,

1255
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 2: but I've literally only had one person that wasn't American

1256
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 2: want to touch my hair.

1257
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:46,839
Speaker 1: Wow.

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01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 2: Literally in twenty years that I've literally had one person

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01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 2: who wanted it to ask me.

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Speaker 3: But but even then they.

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01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 1: Asked me, right, yeah, yeah. They even pay their hands

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01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: in your here. I mean, it sound like it sounds

1263
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: like promise Land, Okay, we over here. It's like you

1264
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 1: never know, they don't even schedule the days for the

1265
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: Nazis to come through in America. You just like, is

1266
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: it Tuesday already?

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Speaker 4: You wake up and they all the Khakis and cit

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01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 4: chanella up, torches, torches thrown out, and this thing you

1269
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 4: know that're saying you will not replace us. You'd be like,

1270
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 4: what happened? I went to sleep and woke up and

1271
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 4: look at.

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Speaker 1: This right Like I didn't even know y'all were storing

1273
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: in the Capitol today. Give us a warning. I like

1274
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: to at least take a take their day off work.

1275
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: But now it's it's always, like I said, a lot

1276
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: of people that want to go after they listen to

1277
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: the show, they're just like, oh my god, it sounds

1278
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: so free, and I want to experience that kind of

1279
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: I want to experience the kind of racism that I

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Speaker 1: have to go. Was that racist? I don't know. Maybe yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean you know what, the one time that I

1282
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 2: have actually like complained about racism, and in a way,

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01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 2: I mean okay, in a way it was super petty.

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01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 1: Like.

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Speaker 2: So I was standing in a line in a grocery

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01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 2: store and this woman who's at the cashier, she was

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Speaker 2: like the person in front of me. She was like chatty, chatty, chatty,

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And then I'm there and she's just

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01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 2: like hello, and she just starts like scanning my things.

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Speaker 2: And then she asked me if I asked her for

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Speaker 2: cash back from my you know, groceries, and she looked

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01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 2: at me like how dare you? And and I mean

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01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 2: she didn't say anything, yeah, and then and then she

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01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 2: just kind of threw my change down on the belt,

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01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 2: you know the thing. And I was like, Okay, that's

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01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 2: just really ridiculous. Woman you don't like and I wrote

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01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 2: a letter to the store actually, and I haven't seen

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Speaker 2: her in a long time, so that was like, my

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say, that was my worst racist incident.

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Speaker 1: That's people's best day over here. That's the best race.

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01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 2: But it's only happened once, right in twenty years.

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01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you don't have to keep flexing nomals.

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01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: We get it. It's better.

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01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 2: No, I mean, that's not what I'm trying to do.

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01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: I know, I'm messing with you.

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01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 2: I'll just you know, it's just it's different. But it's

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01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 2: something like it's not gonna keep me up at night.

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01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be afraid, you know, like I'm not

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01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: afraid of some woman that works as a cashier at

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Speaker 2: the store. At the most, I can shop somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Else, right, Yeah, absolutely, Well, on that note, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get out of here. But thank you so much, Angela.

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Speaker 1: We always enjoy having you on. Thank you so much. Yeah,

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01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: don't and don't be worried about coming on by yourself

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01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: or whatever. I thought. We had a great time, and.

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01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah it was great, but you know, I would have

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01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 2: really preferred that Adrian be here because I don't know

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01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: it's she's worked, she's worked on black women. She's had

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01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: this business for fifteen years, and I think it's something

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01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 2: for her to be super proud of. And I'm proud

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01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 2: of her for doing it, and I just wanted her

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01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 2: to be able to.

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01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: Well, you know, things happen. But as long as everything's okay,

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01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: well we can always reschedule and have her back on

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01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: and talk to her about it too. I mean, it's

1326
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: not like we can talk about too much black women

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01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: in Europe, you know. I think it'll be it'll be

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01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: all right. We can always run it back. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: So we'll be back tomorrow sometime late night, and then

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01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:21,839
Speaker 1: Tuesday we have uh Drunk History, Uh Drunk Black History.

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01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: We have Gordon and h Brandon from there, and then

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01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 1: we have Jess Wood Comedian Wednesday. So it's a full

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01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: week of guests for the Blackout Tips. Make sure you

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Speaker 1: tune in until then. I love you, Cla