1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more disgrace Land in your life, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 5 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party. 6 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after 7 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full 8 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: episode of disgrace Sland to the other, the backyard to 9 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are 10 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: talking about this week's episode subject the Go Gos. We're 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: previewing the coming Marilyn Manson episode, getting into some recommendations 12 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: and some subversive nineties talk, and we go through your voicemails, 13 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: text DMS emails and as always, a whole lot of rosie. 14 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: All right, this goes, Let's get into it, all right, 15 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: The Go Gos this week's full episode subject of Disgrace. 16 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: And they did something that no one has ever done before. 17 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: They were the first group of all female musicians to 18 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: have a number one album of songs that they wrote themselves. 19 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: And that's noteworthy, as we discussed in the episode, because 20 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: at the beginning of their career they were told by 21 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: music industry insiders, namely record executives, that they couldn't expect 22 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: to write their own songs and have a hit album. 23 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: But that's exactly what they did. So the obvious question then, 24 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: is are the go Gos the greatest group of female 25 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: musicians in pop music history? Now? I both love and 26 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: hate these big dumb questions. I love them because as 27 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: dumb as they are, they force us to have a 28 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: conversation about things. I dislike them immensely because they are 29 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: so basic and they are they are so limiting, and 30 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: they eliminate any nuance and that can be a drag. 31 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: But hey, we do the nuance thing in the full 32 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: episode for these after parties. Let let's get the conversation going. 33 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: To do that, we need to say the obvious thing here, 34 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: which is that there are plenty of women who have 35 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: had number one albums. Okay, Taylor Swift has fourteen number 36 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: one albums, for God's sake, but there's also Madonna, barbar 37 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: streisand there's others. Now, Taylor and Madonna relied on co 38 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: writers for the songs on their number one albums. Okay, 39 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Taylor Swift doesn't write her own songs. 40 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: Don't hear this the wrong way. She does write her 41 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: own songs, she just writes them with Jack Antonoff and 42 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: other people. Okay, other people have a hand in it. 43 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: That wasn't the case with the Go Gos. They wrote 44 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: their own songs as the band members of their band. Okay. Madonna, 45 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: same thing, first album. I don't think she wrote anything 46 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: on it. Then she got some success. She co wrote 47 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: with other musicians True Blue in particular, huge album for 48 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: her number one. I think they're all co writes on that. 49 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: Barbara Streisan, to my knowledge, didn't write any of the 50 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: songs on her number ones. I did a little bit 51 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: of research into this and Brittany Beyonce, Janet Jackson. It's 52 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: not like they were holed up in a dingy rehearsal 53 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: space writing their own tunes. Okay, they had writers and 54 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: or co writers crafting their hits as well. And again, 55 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: there are zero girl groups. Everyone I just talked about 56 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: was a solo artist. There are zero girl groups with 57 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: number one albums who wrote their own songs. Diana Ross 58 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: and the Supremes, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Dixie Chicks or 59 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: the Chicks. I'm sorry, Spice Girls, TLC, Dannity Kane, Black Pink. 60 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: None of you did what the go gos did to 61 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: achieve your number one albums, and that is write your 62 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: own tunes. All right. It's such a singular achievement that 63 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: I I can't even find a proper list from Rolling Stone, 64 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: the magazine of record. When it comes to stupid lists, 65 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: I can't even find a real list of greatest girl 66 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: groups of all time from freaking Rolling Stone. So Billboard 67 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: has a list, but it's paywalld and I'm not paying 68 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: for it. US Weekly has a list, but it isn't ranked, 69 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: which doesn't do us much good. So let's see what 70 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: the robots have to say. All right, Google's AI their 71 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: Gemini product. When prompted with the question who are the 72 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: greatest girl groups of all time? Gemini answers with the 73 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: following The Supremes, Spice Girls, Destiny's Child are widely considered 74 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: the greatest girl groups of all time. Now, when I 75 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: ask chat GPT the same thing, chat GPT gives me 76 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: the following answer and ranked list. So here's the answer again. 77 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: The question is who are the greatest girl groups of 78 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,559 Speaker 1: all time? Chat GPT, the artificial intelligence says the best 79 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: girl groups of all time can vary depending on criteria 80 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: commercial success, cultural impact, critical acclaim, or fan based devotion. 81 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: Here's a comprehensive list that includes influential and successful girl 82 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: groups from various genres and eras. All right, so here's 83 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: the ranked list, in reverse order from chat GPT. Number ten, Brownstone, 84 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: I've never heard of them, number nine, the raw Nets, 85 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: all right, I get that, eight and Vogue, I get that. 86 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,119 Speaker 1: The Supremes are at seven. Yep. Six is Little Mix, 87 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: a group I've never heard of. Five Girls Generation that's 88 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: kpop that I've never heard of. Black Pink is at 89 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: number four. I believe Black Pink is the woman from 90 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: White Lotus three, Destiny's Child two TLC and number one 91 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: Spice Girls. That is a tough list for a number 92 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: of reasons. I'm not even gonna get into it. I mean, 93 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: Raw Nets are way too low, That's all I'll say. Okay, 94 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: So the chat GBT robot included other lists as well, 95 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: unprompted because chatch GPT does write by me. Okay, I 96 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: guess let's see chatch GPT. The good little robot it 97 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: gave me are okay, critically acclaimed and culturally important Okay, 98 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 1: so that's this list. Here for the groups on that list, 99 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: oh sorry, for the groups I'm a critically inclaimed and 100 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: culturally important list are groups that I just that were 101 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: in the top ten, So I'm not going to get 102 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: into that. And then gives me a list of underrated 103 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: and cult favorites. And when I saw that as the 104 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: heading as the headline, I thought, Okay, here we go. 105 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: This is where the Go Gos are going to end up. 106 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: So here's the list. Number five on the list of 107 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: best underrated and cult favorite girl groups. Number five the Bengals, 108 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: number four, SWV, number three All Saints, number two Sugar Babes, 109 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: and number one Danity Kane. The Go Gos are nowhere 110 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: to be found on any of these lists, which makes 111 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: zero sense. Zero. The Go Gos were not the Runaways. 112 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: The Go Gos were not even the Frickin' Bangles. They 113 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: were so much more. It's beyond discouraging that AI two 114 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 1: different AI applications, mind you, It's beyond discouraging that AI 115 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: hasn't recognize this band. It's alarming. Actually, now you might 116 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: be shaking your head saying, well, it's just AI, and 117 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: who gets a shit about AI? And I would say, yeah, okay, 118 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: but artificial intelligence is a reflection of the actual intelligence 119 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: that is currently on the Internet, okay, Or I would 120 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: say the lack of intelligence that is currently on the Internet. 121 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: How the girl group that wrote their own songs and 122 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: had the first and the only number one record in 123 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: history of pop music that were not one hit wonders 124 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: who had follow up hits, a significant career, significant post 125 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: careers for its members, was just recently inducted into the 126 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and is still performing 127 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: on relevant bills with other relevant artists. How they're not 128 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: number one on this list, never mind just completely excluded 129 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: from these lists is beyond me. It's like the Go 130 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: Gos have descended back into subterranean punk rock obscurity as 131 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: it concerns the mainstream the masses. This should not be 132 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: taken lightly. AI may not take my job as a 133 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: guy who writes about music, but it's going to be 134 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: the first veil of history. It's going to be the 135 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: source that most people in the future reference first when 136 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: they're looking for quick facts and quick views into the past. 137 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: And the fact that the Go Gos aren't even mentioned 138 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: is a freaking disgrace. Okay, I feel like Belinda Carlisle 139 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: pissed off some robots or something. I have no idea 140 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: what's going on here. It makes no sense. Maybe I'm 141 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: in the minority. Maybe the Go Gos weren't that good. 142 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: Maybe the Go Gos weren't that significant. Maybe because they 143 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: come from punk rock, I elevate them somewhat in my 144 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: mind for some reason, But I don't think so. I mean, 145 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: those songs were ubiquitous, they were everywhere. They were stow 146 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: cold hits, they're still being played. I just cannot get 147 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: with the fact that they're not recognized here. It doesn't 148 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: make any sense. And if you want a deeper look 149 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: into why I feel this way, obviously check out this 150 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: week's full episode. We just released it a couple days ago, 151 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: and we're gonna find out where you guys stand on 152 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: this and what you guys think and who you think 153 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: the greatest girl groups are of all time when we 154 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: get into your voicemails and your text and your dms 155 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: in a bit. But before that, I gotta tell you. 156 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: I got to tell you guys about the upcoming rewind 157 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: episode that's hitting your feeds after this one. That episode 158 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: is on Madonna and it's freaking awesome. And in it 159 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: I discuss some of the wilder moments in Madonna's career, 160 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: of course, but I also talk about one of my 161 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: favorite songs of all time, a Madonna song, but a 162 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: song Madonna did not write, a song called Borderline, and 163 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: it features one of the coolest music cues that we've 164 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: ever created in Disgrace. And so check that episode out. 165 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: It's coming your way next in your feed for some 166 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: throwback disgraceand vibes. And next week on Tuesday, per your request. Okay, 167 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: it's a brand new episode on Marilyn Manson and Oh 168 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: the inn humanity, What this guy did, what this guy 169 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: admitted to doing, the staggering level of rock star hubris 170 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: and depravity. This episode is going to give the Ggi 171 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: Allen episode from our archive a run for its money, 172 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: all right, And when you're listening to this episode, I 173 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: want you guys to be thinking about who the most 174 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: subversive artist of the nineteen nineties was. Was it Marilyn Manson, 175 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: was it gg Allen? Was it Madonna? Was it someone else? 176 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: Let me know, I'm gonna be talking a little bit 177 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: more about this in the bonus section of this after 178 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: Party Today. Six one seven, nine oh six sixty sixty 179 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: three eight. Leave me a voicemail, send me a text 180 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: on your thoughts on Marilyn Manson, the subversiveness of the 181 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties. Marilyn Manson as an artist? Was he the 182 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: most subversive artist of the nineties? Six one seven, nine 183 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: oh six, six six three eight voicemail and text I 184 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: want to know? Hit me up. I'll respond in next 185 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: week's after Party episode. You may hear your own voicemail, 186 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: or you may hear me read your text right here 187 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: next week. I'll be back in a minute after the 188 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: short break with your answers to last week's questions, your voicemails, 189 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: your text, your emails. All right, we're back. Apple podcast listeners, 190 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: make sure you get those auto downloads turned on, all right, 191 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: Get them on, Get them on, get them on. Bang 192 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: a gong. Let's make sure you get all episodes of 193 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: Disgrace Sam six one seven, nine oh six sixty six 194 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: three eight. You know where I'm at. I'm in the 195 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: phone booth. It's the same one I'm in all every week. 196 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: It's the one across the hall, hanging on the telephone. 197 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: You guys, want to send me a voice mean I 198 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: want to send me a text. Get at me six 199 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: one seven, nine oh six sixty six three eight, just 200 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: like Tony from the two oh six. 201 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: Jake, what's happening? Brothers? Tony from the two O six. 202 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: I know it's been a minute. I talked to you, 203 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: uh to answer your question or who's the greatest girl 204 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: group there is? The Go Gos? I definitely say the 205 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: Go Gos, but I also say the Bengals. I always 206 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: thought the two of them would make for an interesting 207 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: versus battle if you remember the verses from the Lockdown era. 208 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 2: I always thought the two of them going head to 209 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: head over who had the better songs would be interesting. 210 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: So much love from the two six and I'll ha 211 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: let you later, peace. 212 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: Tony and the two h six. Thanks for the comment, man, 213 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: I get the Bengals love I do, I don't. I 214 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: just don't rank them as high as the Go Gos, 215 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: And for various reasons, I don't want to beat a 216 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: dead horse, but mainly it's it's just the hits. The 217 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: hits are stronger, and the Go Gos came first as well. 218 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: You gotta give him some credit for that. Johnny Vinyl 219 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: from the six one seven what's up? Brother, Let's hear 220 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: what Johnny's gotta say? 221 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 3: Andy, what's up? 222 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 4: Jacobs? 223 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: Johnny Vinyl answering the question of the week, who's the 224 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: best all girl band? So I have to say the 225 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: Runaways have a slight edge over the Go Gos, and 226 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 3: then the Go Gos set the stage for the Bengals, 227 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: so I would say it goes in that order. 228 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 4: Throwing there for honorable mention, Pixon absolutely for the nineties, 229 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 4: you have to pick L seven. And another honorable mention 230 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 4: is the band Veruka Salt, where two out of the 231 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 4: four members were the lead singers, guitarists and wrote all 232 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: songs and they were amazing in the nineties. 233 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: So that's your lineup right there. You know, I can't 234 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 3: stick to just one, but great episode of The Go 235 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: Gos had me laughing with the whole situation of Ozzie 236 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: kicking forget what her name is, but kicking her out 237 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: of the hotel room. You have to be pretty fucked 238 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: up to have Ausie kick you out anyway, brother, have 239 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: a good one. 240 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: Johnny, appreciate the voicemail as always, great list, and you're 241 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: kind of throwing what I just said back in my face. 242 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: You're putting the Runaways at number one because it came 243 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: before the Go Gos, And yeah, I get how you 244 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: can do that. They did not have the hits that 245 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: the Go Gos had, obviously, and they neither did they 246 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: write their own songs. I don't believe. I think it 247 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: was all Kim Fowley, right, but I get it, and 248 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: I love how you mentioned L seven. No one's brought 249 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: them up yet to me. Actually, someone on on Instagram did, 250 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: but I love that. We got it in voicemail form 251 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: here and Veruka Salt as well. Huge, great call. Appreciate you, 252 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: my man. Six one seven nine oh six six six 253 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: three eight. You guys want to send me a voicemail. 254 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: Next week's question of the Week is going to be 255 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: on the nineties artists who were the most subversive? Is 256 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: it Marilyn Manson? Is it somebody else? It was it 257 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: gg Allen Gigi and died in nineteen ninety three, so 258 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that we can say that. But the 259 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: six one seven here right saying hey gg Allen episode, 260 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned the pit in Harvard Square. It's gone now, 261 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: which pisses me off, but it hadn't been the same 262 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: since the early two thousands. However, it was a special 263 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: place for me from about nineteen eighty seven to nineteen 264 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: ninety two, you and me both. I didn't have any 265 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: friends in the pit because I wasn't from Boston, but 266 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: I was hanging out there on weekends. My dad lived 267 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: in the city. I was from the Burbs from my mom, 268 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: and I would come in. I'd go to Neo Reecomics, 269 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: I get some pizza in the mall there. I forget 270 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: the name of that place. Still smell that pizza though, 271 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'd go hang out in the pit, and 272 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, i'd hope to not get beat up by 273 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: the skinheads. And I just sort of gaze upon the 274 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: punk rockers and think, you know, what the hell are 275 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: these fucking gutter punk kids all about? As well? It's 276 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: a whole thing, man. And six one seven we probably 277 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: crossed paths eight two eight texts in Hey, just finishing 278 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: up the Sign of the Times bonus episode, and thought 279 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: i'd throw you some PNC Park pics. I gotta love 280 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh sports fans. I got I gotta cut this this 281 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: text or off for a minute here. You know, I 282 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: mentioned a Pittsburgh Pirates hat once. Maybe twice, and the 283 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh fans come out of the woodwork. It's I can't 284 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: tell you how many how many texts I've got and 285 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: voicemails from and Instagram messages, just Pittsburgh sports fans, maybe 286 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: Pirates fans just looking to talk. You know what it 287 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: reminds me of. It reminds me of my dog Dusty, who, like, 288 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: you know, someone says the word walk and she comes out, 289 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: she goes. Someone say walk, someone say walk. You know, 290 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: it's like you mentioned the Pirates. It's like pirates. You 291 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: guess what I'm talking about, the Pirates. That's that's the 292 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh fans. I love it. And this one sends in 293 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: these I'll read the rest of the text. Uh. These 294 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: pictures are probably mostly from Yankees' visits. Since I'm a 295 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: transplanted Connecticut native Lee, I appreciate the text. And you 296 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: have a beautiful ballpark there in Pittsburgh, gorgeous. Someday I 297 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: hope to visit. Thank you three oh three rights in Hey. 298 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: If you need research help with hairbands, that's my jam. 299 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: I read Circus and Hip Parader magazines cover to cover 300 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: every month for almost a decade, starting in the eighties, 301 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: listen three oh three. Appreciate you. I might take you 302 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: up on your offer at some point. I just found 303 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: out that the singer for Warrant died? Is that true? 304 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: Is that true? And if you guys could have one 305 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: episode on one hairband, who would it be? Let's let's 306 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: let's make a quick, little, quick little run down here. Poison. 307 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm thinking these are all bands I despise, by the way. Okay, now, 308 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: no shade. If you like them, I get it, you know, 309 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: I guess the older I get a Poison song comes on. 310 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: I have some nostalgia for it. But let's just go. 311 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm excluding Motley Crue. Let's just go five hairbands. You 312 00:16:52,960 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: can get one episode on them, Poison, skid Row, Warrant, Winger, 313 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: and then I don't know dealer's choice for number five. 314 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Faster, Pussycat, Cinderella, who we 315 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: talking about. I can do one. Now, don't just be 316 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: selfish and be like I like that band, therefore it's 317 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: number one. Come at me voicemail six point seven nine 318 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: six six sixty three eight text, Come at me with 319 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: what you think will make the best hair metal episode. Okay, 320 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: which now now to your point three H three. I 321 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: was not. I was reading Hipparator in Circus, but I 322 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: was skipping those articles. And I definitely wasn't putting Jennie 323 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: Lane up on my wall. No shade if you were. 324 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: But you know, some of you know way better than 325 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 1: I the history of these bands, these hair metal bands. 326 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: So I want the one. I want the I want 327 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: the ones with the most criminality in their background. Is 328 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: it skid row? Is it is it? I don't think 329 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: it is. Is it poison? I don't think it is. Again, 330 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: Motley Crue does not count. We have a new episode 331 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: of Nikki six come your way, and we of course 332 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: have an episode on Motley Crue, so we're gonna have two. 333 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: So there you go. But get at me, hair metal fans. 334 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: Let me know three Oho two rites in as a 335 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: teenager in the eighties and the nineties. He grew up 336 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: with a mom that was hyper concerned about what neighbors thought. 337 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: This banger was so important to me, and that banger 338 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: is salt and Peppa's none of your business. And this 339 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: is on the heels of the Sign of the Times 340 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: episode that we did on Prince Who. We were talking 341 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: about which artists best represented their generation, and the three 342 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: oh two wrote in a head of that text, I'm 343 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: so mad at myself for not mentioning TLC and Salt 344 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: and Peppa in the Sign of the Times conversation. Both 345 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: bands were huge and making a statement about feminism and 346 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: safe sex during the AIDS epidemic. And you're absolutely right 347 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: they were, and they were females. So it's apropos of 348 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: our conversation right now this week, as well as our 349 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: conversation last week. Thank you three oh two for tying 350 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: it all together. You guys are the best listeners. Appreciate you. 351 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: Six one seven nine oh six six sixty three eight 352 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: voicemail and text you want to get at me at 353 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: disgrace lampod on the social you want to hit me there, 354 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: Paul over in the UK on Facebook rights. Hey, it's 355 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 1: Paul from the plus four fours. That's the UK. In 356 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: case that's lost in translation, working my way back through 357 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: your amazing back catalog and am still stuck in the 358 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: past somewhere in twenty twenty three when you're asking for recommendations. 359 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: Don't worry, Paul. We were asking for recommendations last week 360 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: as well. We do it from time to time. Recommendtions 361 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: on stories to cover, and I thought to cast an 362 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: eye to the future and see if you've covered Wales 363 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: his very own Manic Street Preachers, and was surprised to 364 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: see that you hadn't definitely something there regarding Richie's disappearance. 365 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: Surely no worries. If not, I'll still continue to enjoy 366 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: what you do. Offer many thanks my good sir, Cheerio 367 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: and Tootlepip Paul. He really did write Cheerio and Tootlepip Paul. 368 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: Richie Edwards disappearance singer of Manick Street Preachers. I looked 369 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: into this pretty significantly a bunch of years ago. It 370 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: was the subject that Payne Lindsay and I were going 371 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: to cover before we get into the Dead and Gone podcast, 372 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: and we just could not come up with enough information. 373 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: There's really not a lot of information out there, so 374 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: it's a tough subject to cover, but that doesn't stop 375 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: me in the past. I think we could do one 376 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: episode for sure, and Paul, we will probably get into 377 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: that sometime in the near future. Okay, so by the 378 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: time you catch up, hopefully that'll be sitting in your 379 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: RSS feed. Thanks Paul at Disgrace Sandpod on Facebook, x 380 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: and on Twitter. You guys want to get at me 381 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: about any subject, that's where you can do it. It 382 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: can be anything music related, it can be anything podcast related. 383 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: It can be anything related to the books that we 384 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: discuss here. It can be anything related to the sports 385 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: that we sometimes very seldomly discussed in these little thirty 386 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: second sports rants that I've been doing. And I have 387 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: to just say here to all my Pirates fans out there, 388 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 1: I feel you. I feel like we're becoming one of you. 389 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: As Boston fans. We are melding. I say that because 390 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: the Red Sox it's not even June and the Red 391 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: Sox are dead. We need to lay the Red Sox out, 392 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: Lay them out down to McNally's funeral home, head over 393 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: to the old timers for a shot of jamison, a 394 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: pine of guinness. Because the Red Sox are dead as 395 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: a door nail. They're what two three games under five 396 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: hundred at this point, seven ish games out of first 397 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: in a not so great division. It's time for me, 398 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: I think, to put my Mets hat on and hope 399 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: for a Subway series in October and come at the 400 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: Yankees that way. This is embarrassing. They shouldn't be this 401 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: bad of the Red Sox. They should not be this bad. 402 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: I don't care the Bregman's hurt. I don't care. The 403 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: cast is hurt. They have the horses, they're not playing them, 404 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: and the ones they are playing are sucking there. I 405 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: don't know what's up. It's just management, coaching, playing, it's everything. 406 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: It's fucking awful. Okay. I can't stand it. I can't 407 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: stand that we have a payroll as high as we 408 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: have and we are not in contention. I can't stand 409 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: that we have an iconic team, an iconic ballpark, the 410 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: best fans in sports, and we are out of contention. 411 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: It's not acceptable. Can a flash with your emails in 412 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: the Hollywood Lamb Minute? All right, we are back and 413 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: you know what time it is. It's time for the 414 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: Hollywood lad Minute, brought to you by the Hollywood Lamp Podcast. 415 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: Don't know what the Hollywood Lamp podcast is? Well, the 416 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 1: Hollywood Lamp Podcast is hosted by Yours Truly, where every 417 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: week I tell you a story from the nnex of 418 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: Hollywood and true crime. And right now there are over 419 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: forty episodes waiting for you to binge. Episodes on James Dean, 420 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: Danny Trehoe, Charlie Sheen, David Lynch, John Waters, Maril Monroe, 421 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: Drew Barrymore, Steve McQueen, and most recently on Dwayne the 422 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: Rock Johnson. Here's a clip. Dwayne Johnson had wrestling in 423 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: his blood. His father, Rocky Johnson, was the first black 424 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: wrestler to win the Georgia Heavyweight Championship. Now he was 425 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: working some West Coast gigs as a tag team partner 426 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: of simone wrestler Peter Myvea. Rocky Johnson had trained as 427 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: a ball sparring with guys like George Foreman and Muhammad Ali, 428 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: but he gained some popularity in wrestling working the regional 429 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: circuits in the late nineteen sixties. When Rocky got the 430 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: town jet lagged from the flight from Japan, Peter Mavilla 431 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: invited him to crash at his house and they were friendly, 432 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: but they weren't friends. Wrestling was a business. You didn't 433 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: let things get personal. The illusion that it was all 434 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: real was part of it, and so was the way 435 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: a group of wrestlers would burn storm a region for 436 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: a few weeks before moving on. But wrestler couldn't be 437 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: seen at the diner with the guy who was going 438 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: to knock the shit out of that night. The good 439 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: guy aka the Face didn't palad around with the bad 440 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: guy aka the Heel. For Peter my Villa, it was 441 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: more than that. Guys in the business had problems drinking, drugs, violence. 442 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: He was no saint himself. Normal folks didn't get into wrestling, 443 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: so there weren't many wrestlers that were normal. Therefore, there 444 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: weren't many wrestlers if Peter my Villa wanted to hang 445 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: around with, and there certainly weren't many he wanted hanging 446 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: around his daughter, So when Rocky Johnson started flirting with 447 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: Peter my VA's daughter, Peter did his best to shut 448 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 1: it down. Unfortunately, this match was scripted. They fell in 449 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: love and ran off to get married without my VIA's blessing. 450 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: Two years later, in time to meet his grandson, Little Dwayne, 451 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: Peter my Villa admitted defeat his daughter had married Russell. 452 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: All right, guys, make sure you are subscribed to the 453 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: Hollywood Land podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you 454 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: get your podcast. Next week, we've got an episode on 455 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: Fatty Airbuckle, one of the biggest scandals and trials in 456 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: Hollywood History, the Crime of the Century, before OJ Simpson, 457 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: before Sean ditty Combs, Sean Didty Combs. While you're handing 458 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: out XC shaped like Barack Obama, what's up with that disgrace? 459 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: Lampod at gmail dot com. You want to get at 460 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: me in the email format. I unleashed a dragon last 461 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: week when I brought up Fish. The Fish fans are 462 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: the Fish fans are plentiful, and the Fish fans are 463 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: full throated. Now there will be a Fish episode, and 464 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: I will bring love and intention to the creation of 465 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: that episode, and it will come within this calendar year. 466 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: Fish fans, I have heard you speak, I have heard 467 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: you roar. This email comes from Lacey McNairy and I'm 468 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: reading it because it is this apropos of what we're 469 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 1: doing right now. Subject Fish message. Hey Jake, it's Lacey 470 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: from the five h two. Just turned your bonus episode 471 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: where you talked about Fish and how you love the who. 472 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: You may be interested to know that Fish covered the 473 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: whole Quadraphenia album at their Halloween show in Chicago back 474 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: in the day. I was there and I had a blast. 475 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: Here's a link. Lacey, appreciate the email. I did not 476 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: know that, and I believe I said that. You know, 477 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: I love the Who now, it was a long road 478 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: getting to love the Who. I didn't grow up loving 479 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: the Who, like I didn't grow up loving the Fish. 480 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: And I liked that the fish. I'm gonna call them 481 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: the fish from now. I want to hope it on mind. 482 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: I like that the fish quadraphenia. I think that's an 483 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: incredible achievement, and I'd actually be interested in seeing what 484 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: that looks like. So perhaps I'll watch it, appreciate it, 485 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: and maybe maybe that'll end end up in the episode 486 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: the episode Fish. Excuse me, on the Fish that we 487 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: are going to produce. It's way more criminal than I 488 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,239 Speaker 1: could have hoped for. I'm pretty stoked about it. And 489 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: I say all this because we just and I read 490 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: this email in particular because just yesterday I recorded a 491 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: new episode on The Who on the Riverfront called Seam 492 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: Tragedy from the early eighties, where eleven people died at 493 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: a WHO concert, And it's a pretty harrowing story and 494 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: I can't wait for you guys to hear it. And 495 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: it's coming up in a couple of weeks, so you 496 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: have that to look forward to. In addition, to the Fish, 497 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: the Fish, the Fish episode, they say that, right. Okay, reviews, 498 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: I often get asked, Hey, how can I support the show? 499 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: You know I'm beating the dead horse when I tell you, 500 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: because you already know. Leave a review and I have 501 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: a podcast. Leave a review on Spotify. Let the world 502 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: know how much you love Disgraceland and that'll help the 503 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: algorithm feed Disgraceland to other potential listeners. And every week 504 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: I go on these apps and I pull up your 505 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: reviews and I read them here. And if you hear yours, 506 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 1: red hit me and I will respond in time, and 507 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: I will get in touch and I'll get you some 508 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: free merch. Okay, only for the reviews that I read here. 509 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: I read two a week, one on Apple, one on Spotify. 510 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: This one from Seed Jev on Apple podcast five stars, 511 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: title Jake Never Misses. I've been listening since twenty twenty 512 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: and I enjoy every episode, even once which I do 513 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: not care for the artists. Just finish the David Crosby episode. 514 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: I never cared for his music until after he passed away. 515 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: I took a deep dive into his catalog and I 516 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. And man, truly was an outlaw musician 517 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: who made great music. My only complaint about the show 518 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: is that I usually listened during my long work commute, 519 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: and I often think that the sirens and the screeching 520 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: tires and the episodes are real, just kidding. Keep up 521 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: the good work now, thank you so much. See Jove, 522 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: y'all might be going to yourself and yourself right out. 523 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: Yet what David Crosby episode? What are we talking about? 524 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: There's no David Crosby episode of Disgracing. You're looking at 525 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: your Apple podcast feed right now, your Spotify feed, your 526 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: whatever feed. You don't see David Crosby in there. And 527 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,719 Speaker 1: the reason you don't is because a David Crosby episode 528 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: is only available to our exclusive all access members of Disgraceland, 529 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: where every month they get a extra episode. Okay, see 530 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: Jove is talking about that extra episode on David Crosby 531 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: from Crosby, Stills, Nash and whoever the fuck as a 532 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: wise man once called them. And the reason that we 533 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: covered David Crosby is because his story is insane. It's nuts. 534 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: This guy was off the fucking rails in the worst way. Anyhow, 535 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: you want to hear that episode, you gott become a member. 536 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 1: It's only five bucks a month that you can do 537 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: so at Disgrace lampod dot com slash membership. Get that 538 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: CROs action like Melissa Ethridge. All right, but for much cheaper. Okay, 539 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: this episode is coming to an end, but not for 540 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: All Access members. The All Access members I just mentioned. 541 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: They also get a little bit more of the bonus 542 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: episodes too, and they get ad free listening. Go to 543 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: Disgrace sapod dot com slash membership to become a member 544 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: for just five dollars. All right, we are back. Everybody 545 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: gonna get out of here in a minute. I want 546 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: to talk about some episodes that we mentioned here, some subjects, 547 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: some artists that we mentioned here that we have episodes 548 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: in the vault in the archive. That's Taylor Swift. We 549 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: brought up Taylor Swift and we have a two part 550 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: episode on Britney Spears. We talked about a little bit here. 551 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: We did not we don't have an episode on this Supremes. 552 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: We do have a Motown episode, and of course you 553 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: can't talk about Motown without talking about the Supremes. TLC 554 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: came up TLC. We've got a TLC episode in the archive. 555 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: And Shania Twain. Did I talk about Shania Twain? I 556 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: don't know that I talked about Shania Twain, but we 557 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: do have an ECDC episode. Now, how is Shania Twain 558 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: related to ACDC. Well, Mutt Lang was married to Shania Twain, 559 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: and Mutt Lang produced those massive Shania Twain records. He 560 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: also produced Back in Black, amongst other massive death lepperd 561 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: just huge. So anyway, is ACDC episode. Check that out, 562 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: def Leppard. We'll get to at some point, but not 563 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: before we get out of here. Unfortunately, got a recap 564 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: right now. Number one, my other podcast, hollywood Land, is 565 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: alive and kicking over in the hollywood Land Feed, So 566 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: make sure you're subscribed and following hollywood Land on Apple Podcasts, 567 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts, and check out 568 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: our recent episode on Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Number two 569 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: right now, your Disgrace Sland feed has a brand new 570 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: Go Gos episode. You know all about that because we 571 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: spent the first half of this episode talking about it. 572 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: Number three coming tomorrow, our rewind episode on Madonna, and 573 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: next Tuesday, our brand new episode on Marilyn Manson. Number 574 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: four merch Winners get in touch you know who you are, 575 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: Number five. Remember though, that no one cares about preserving 576 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do. 577 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: And well that's a disgrace, all right, and honor this 578 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: week's subject, The Go Gos. This is me reading you 579 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: the Billboard charts of number one songs from the day 580 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: that The Go Go's debut album went to number one 581 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: on March sixth, nineteen eighty two. Number one Centerfold, The 582 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: Jay Giles Band last week one, peak position one weeks 583 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: on Chart eighteen, number two, Open Arms Journeys last week two, 584 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: peak position two weeks on chart eight number three last 585 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: week I Love rock and Rolls. Joan Jet in the 586 00:31:54,960 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: Blackhearts last week nine, peak position sweet three games weeks 587 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: on chart number five, Sound number four, You Shake It 588 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: Up the Cars last year ke peak position weeks on 589 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: Chart sixteen, number number five, Lasting Wonder last week. 590 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: Quit talking and start mixing ware doing