1 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Three receiver's right feeling left. Marshawn Lattimore twelve yards from 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: Adam Case on a deep drop, steps up in the pocket. 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: You'll fire to the right side called my d stay. Oh, oh, 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: my god, are are you kidding me? It's a video 5 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: step on Dicks Saints. It's a sixty one yards miracle. Hey, everybody, 6 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Minnesota Vikings Podcast, Episode twenty two, Wild 7 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: Card Weekend edition. The Vikings are headed to New Orleans 8 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: to take on the Saints and a playoff game a 9 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: familiar Oh unfortunately and fortunately split them one one in 10 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: important moments in studio with me the producer also from 11 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: the Vikings dot Com, Chris Corso to the left of him, 12 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 1: Jay Nelson. We did not do an episode last week. 13 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: It was Christmas, so we did not do that. Be 14 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: No one in here felt like talking into the microphone 15 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: because what happened on Monday night. So it's kind of nice. 16 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: We got to skip all of that terrible negativity and 17 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: now talk about a meaningless game against Chicago as we 18 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: walk into the playoffs. We could focus on it for 19 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: a second. Chris, I will say, you know, we all 20 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: knew that it was going to be a rest today 21 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: for a lot of the important guys, especially with a 22 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: few guys banged up. You know, when you lose out 23 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: on a first round by and you lose out on 24 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: the division and you have to go on the road, 25 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: you're looking for any possible advantage you can gain at all. 26 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: And every other team that was playing on Sunday had 27 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: something to play for. So the fact that we didn't 28 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: technically we have anything to play for, and we could 29 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: sit all our important guys and let their bodies heal up, 30 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: you know, that's helpful. Yeah, And my biggest takeaway from 31 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: the game was some of these players reserves that do 32 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: see time in the big games, one of them being 33 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: a Fadi Odenibo having a huge sack that almost was 34 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: a touchdown his knee was down. And Stephen Weatherly as well, 35 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: providing pressure on a first string offensive line and getting 36 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: a half a sack in this game. So some of 37 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: those players that you see Mike Zimmers sprinkle in his 38 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: pass rushers in the second half of games. They showed 39 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: very well against the first team Chicago Bears offense. Absolutely, Weatherly, Odenabo, 40 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: Alexander Hollins was in the wide receiver. It was interesting 41 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: to see him out there. I think the wide receiver 42 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: position is always such a bizarre one to see how 43 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: guys become because that feels like the position where guys 44 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: can sneak onto the field from all over the draft spectrum. 45 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: You know they undrafted seventh round. I mean, Antonio Brown 46 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: was way late in the draft, you know, feeling undrafted. 47 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: Diggs fifth round. He was a fifth round Diggs was 48 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: fifth rounders. So I think sometimes with wide receivers, the 49 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: truth is, it's kind of like we've talked before. I'm 50 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: a big NBA guy. All two guards can jump and 51 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: dunk the ball. They're all freak athletes, which one of 52 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: them put the time in and can develop the extra 53 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: skill sets. It's got to be difficult to assess the 54 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver position. That's why a lot of them bust 55 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: out of the first round. Because all these guys are fast. 56 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: They're all fast. That's why they play wide receiver, and 57 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of hard to assess route running and 58 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: hands and stuff like that until you actually see him 59 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: in the league. So this Alexander Hollins, he's fast man. 60 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: He was lightning out there. And as you look around 61 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: the league and you see some of these guys, obviously 62 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: what Tyreek Hill is doing in Kansas City. And I'm 63 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: debot Samuel for the Niners, who put on a show 64 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: on Sunday night that was disgusting. I was curious to 65 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: see him out there, and I don't know that he 66 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: had the best game anyone's ever seen, but dude is fast, 67 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: He's quick, and he made that over the shoulder catch 68 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: on the sideline, you know not, which is not an 69 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: easy not an easy catch. My last takeaway from this 70 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: game was Chris Boyd, who has just been a monster 71 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: for the Vikings on special teams. He leads the Vikings 72 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: and special team tackles this season. He did it again 73 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: in this game. So watch out for Chris Boyd. I 74 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: know that's a small takeaway, but he's been such an 75 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: impact player for the Vikings and he will be on 76 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: the field in those big games in that role. So 77 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: watch out for him going forward. Will that'd be nice 78 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: because when you get into the playoffs, let's I mean, 79 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: let's let's talk. Let's I don't care about the Bears 80 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: game at all. We're going right into the play This 81 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: might be an eleven minute play or podcast, but we're 82 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: going right into the playoffs. I think, obviously we're talking 83 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: off the air. Courso here is going to have a meltdown. 84 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: He found out that the Vikings are eight point underdogs 85 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: in New Orleans, and he I thought he was gonna 86 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: build a Drew Breeze voodoo doll. He's having a meltdown 87 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: over there in his chair. Would you like to you 88 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: see I'm not surprised at the eight points. I'm not. 89 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: Then that's a not negative commentary on our organization. I 90 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: just knowing the way they make lines, and knowing how 91 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: good New Orleans is at home, and knowing some of 92 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: the matchup things that maybe the national conversation is going 93 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: to be about eight points didn't even surprise me at all. 94 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: It's like unfathomable. It's I can't even believe it, Like 95 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: I just like I can't believe eight. I like the 96 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: Vikings so much, but every time Chris opens his mouth 97 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: to talk, I assume he's gonna have a Viking tattoo 98 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: on his tongue. It's unbelievable. I mean, I was expecting 99 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: like a five and a half, five and a half 100 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: points spread, maybe five. Yeah, it's gonna have the three 101 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: points being on the road a Zimmer's defense against I 102 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: don't know. I just didn't expect. I get where they're 103 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: coming from. Seeing the Saints finish off the season so strong, 104 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: playing a beaten up Carolina team and just bashing them 105 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: in Week seventeen, obviously the way we finished with the 106 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: Packers and now not really going with any momentuments of 107 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs, but eight points with this defense, that's just 108 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: amazing to me. My guess is, and you got to remember, 109 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: lines are made to make people bad. They're not necessarily 110 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: always an accurate prediction of what's going to happen. They 111 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: put a line out there, so both sides go, oh, 112 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: I like that side. I like that side. But if 113 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: I could play Devil's advocate, I think what you do 114 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: is personally, I think the Packers are the worst thirteen 115 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: and three football team in the history of football. And 116 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: am I saying that because after we lost on Monday night, 117 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of Packer chods got on my Instagram and 118 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: just went at me for a day and a half. Yes, 119 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: I've never been involved in in fan disputes before. I 120 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: remember growing up in a small town, kids were like, 121 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna go fight everybody from Wyndham. I was like, cool, 122 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go home because that sounds the worst. I 123 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: don't care about your dumbtown or you're dumb like I'm not. 124 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: But now I am. Now I am. These these hefty 125 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: knuckle dragon Drouland dumpsters have pulled me in and I'm 126 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: and I do I do I think their teams So 127 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: now let me extrapolate that I think. I don't think 128 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: that's a unique opinion, and they did, like, it's just 129 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: garbage with everything to play for. On Sunday, the Packers 130 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: were absolute garbage and Rogers struggled immensely, right, So if 131 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: you're the linesmaker and you're looking at that, and I 132 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: know we didn't have Dalvin Cook, and I think it's 133 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: it's my opinion and probably the opinion of this room 134 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: that if you have Cook in Madison, that game looks 135 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: a lot different. Because again, I'll say it once, I'll 136 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: say it ont oftimes. I don't know anything about how 137 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: football actually works, but what it looked like to me 138 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: in that game. They were like, hey, we know that 139 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: you're really good at play action. We don't care about 140 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: Mike Boone. If he beats us, he beats us. We're 141 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: gonna be in your backfield every second of every minute, 142 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: so you can't execute play action all game long. And 143 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: if Cook and Madison are there, that's a different story. Now, 144 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't know that the national media and the national 145 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: conversation assessed that game in the same way. I think 146 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: they looked at it and they went, oh, Kirk failed 147 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: in primetime again, Oh the offense sucks. I don't think 148 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: they broke it down in the same way. So if 149 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: you see a Vikings team that lost, and you guys 150 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: were there, you guys were in the stadium. I was 151 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: with my family, I was watching at home, and I 152 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: was so jacked for that game. And I gotta tell you, 153 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: one of the most unenjoyable football games as a Viking 154 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: fan I've ever watched, absolutely spent. When you start with 155 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: three first half turnovers against Aaron Rodgers and you end 156 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: with seven first downs and a brutal loss, and they 157 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: get that garbage ass they get away with a hold 158 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: on their Davante Adams or on their Aaron Jones touchdown, 159 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: and then we get called on ours garbage. That's a 160 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: whole other conversation. The point is really unfun to watch. 161 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: So I think the conversation looks at us doing that 162 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: against that team, then them losing against the line. Saints 163 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: beat the Panthers by seven hundred and fifty points. They're 164 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: at home, they have all those weapons, and I think 165 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: that's what balloons it to seven. I think my guess 166 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: is that's what they truly believe the line is. I 167 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: think they're pushing everybody to think that it should be 168 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: five and a half. It should be four, and they 169 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: want him to bet the Vikings until they bring the 170 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: line down and then they push the other way. No, 171 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: none of us are gamblers, so we don't need to 172 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: talk about it. But we're just talking about the way 173 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: the under expectations, the underdog rolls. Here's this is let's 174 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: talk here. If you want to have a conversation about underdogs. 175 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: How about the Vikings getting left off the NFL's playoff video, 176 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: the hype video, and coach Zimmer took notice of that 177 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: and set it in his press conference on Monday, So 178 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: he said, I don't care who believes we're gonna win. 179 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: He mentioned the eight point spread, he mentioned being left 180 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: out of the video, but he said all he cares 181 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: about is his fifty three guys believing that they can 182 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: go in there and win. And I certainly believe that 183 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: they can go in I know you're hearing the positive 184 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: guy over here, but I believe it all started with 185 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: being on the field at US Bank Stadium with Ben 186 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: Lieber watching the end of that Packers game and the 187 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: Packers win on a game winning field goal, and Pa 188 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: and Lieber right there, you're okay, you're talking this past 189 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: saw Sunday for the Bears game. Okay, Um, we watched 190 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: the Packers win the game, and then Lieber said, you 191 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: know what, We're gonna play the Saints. And I like 192 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: that because playing in the controlled arena of a dome 193 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: is something that he's done. And he's also played out 194 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: there with the Twelves in Seattle, and he's also played 195 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: tons of times out there at Lambo. He would rather 196 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: the Vikings play in that dome, he said. I like that. 197 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: He liked. For a second, I started my optimism. For 198 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: a second, I thought Chris was telling us an elaborate 199 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: story so he could say I like that. I was like, 200 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: what has happened? That is where my optimism started, was 201 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: the optimism of Ben Lieber out on the field at 202 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: US Bank Stadium. I'm I'm always cautiously optimistic. That's just 203 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: that's my mode as a fan. I think the other 204 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: side of it is you just have to understand what 205 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: you're dealing with. It. It makes sense that we're underdogs, 206 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: and I kind of enjoy that. You know. The other 207 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: thing going back to that video, anytime that happens and 208 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: you hear players go no one believes in us. You know, 209 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: the general public really likes to make fun of that. 210 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: Even talk radio and media like you know and TV 211 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: like to make fun of that. But locker rooms are unique. 212 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: Locker rooms are not the real world. This is not 213 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: a normal situation these people. This isn't you and your 214 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: dumb accountant co workers. This is a different world. And 215 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: stuff like that hold, stuff like that actually does mean something. 216 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: It's it's it's why when you start breaking down a 217 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: game with two really good teams. Yes, it's certainly going 218 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: to be settled on the field and the matchups, but 219 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: the way the way you approach it mentally, and the 220 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: things that are going on in your brain and the 221 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: things that you believe. I do think that stuff makes 222 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: a big difference. And let's talk about another one noon 223 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: noon on Sunday, and nobody's really talking about that being 224 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: our draw. Let's talk about your boy, Kirky kay Cousins, 225 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: Chris Dude, whether it's real or not, that guy plays 226 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: well at noon on Sundays compared to all of the 227 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: other times. Yeah, though, those two things playing at noon 228 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: on Sundays, playing in the controlled environment, there are numbers 229 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: to back up that Kirk Cousins plays better, and it controlled, 230 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: whether it's a warm or a dome environment, controlled environment, 231 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: rather than like it's gonna be loud, it's a controlled environment, 232 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: controlled environment. It sounds like the robot picks Kirk out 233 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: of a case and sets him on the field. It 234 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: will be loud in the Superdome. I believe it would 235 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: have been louder out in Seattle. I really do believe that. 236 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: And I think it would have been louder and lamball 237 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: as well. There are debates to be had on that. 238 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: I'm sure, Jay. Were you at the two thousand and 239 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: nine playoff game? Oh yes, Oh yes. I was sitting 240 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: in the upper deck with the rest of the Roobs 241 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: in New Orleans and things were cordial up until that 242 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and then it descended into madness, and my 243 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: brother and I looked at each other and said, we 244 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: need to get the heck out of here as fast 245 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: as possible. Dude, I wanted nothing more. He's gonna be 246 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: allowed wherever you go. I hate and I love our 247 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: draw Let me let me give this because let's well, 248 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: let's let's backtrack. Let's talk about exactly what happened on 249 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: Sunday to put us there, because depending on what you 250 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: wanted to see happen, if you're Chris Corso, things went 251 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: to plan. If you're Siaminson, things went completely utterly and 252 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: thoroughly not to plan. Because I wanted to go to 253 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: Green Bay. Yeah, I get that. I wanted to go 254 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: to Green Bay. I wanted to I wanted to bring 255 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook in there. We have two losses that easily 256 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: could have been wins. I don't believe they're a good team, 257 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: and I don't believe they can handle us at this 258 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: point in the season healthy, and I don't think they're 259 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: going to beat us. Three times we were watching that 260 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: game and anybody who watched it. The Lions were up seven, 261 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers had just threw a deep pick. The Lions 262 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: were driving. They were right about the fifty yard line, 263 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: maybe a little past it. They have Matt Prador. You know, 264 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: a few more yards, you're getting a fuel goal, and 265 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: this thing is sealed, man, and we're going to Lambo. 266 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: I already had a meme I was gonna send out 267 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: to all these Packer blogs. I was gonna send out 268 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: the I was gonna say Packers have the division in 269 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: their hands. And then I was gonna do the video 270 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: of Kevin from the office spilling chili, and I was 271 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: I was ready to talk a lot of trash. And 272 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: then my brother I'm sitting there watching with my brother 273 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: and my nephew, or my two brothers and my nephew 274 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: and my dumb brother Greg, who really likes David blow goes. 275 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: You know what I think. David blows the real deal. No, 276 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: next play, sack, yes, next play, worst interception I've seen 277 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: in a while. Boom bang, game over, Packers win, Blah 278 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: blah blah, bummed out, going to Sunday night. And I 279 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: know I'm not allowed. I know it's not we don't 280 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: get to really talk about reffing here. But I wanted 281 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: Seattle to win that game because that was my ideal draw. Well, 282 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: my ideal draw was Seattle at the three Packers at 283 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: the one. I wanted to go into Seattle exercise those demons. 284 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: We already know we can compete there. Then I wanted 285 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: to go beat I wanted those Packers to have a 286 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: one seed and just walk in there and just wallop them. 287 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: I wanted it so bad, And I gotta tell you, 288 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: that's a feeling as a Viking fan that I wish 289 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: everyone can experience. I've experienced. I was at in the stands. 290 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: I was sixth row in the stands in Lambeau in 291 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: the end zone that Randy Moss mooned. I didn't go 292 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: to games growing up. I never went to games. When 293 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: that playoff game happened with Mike Tyson as the coach, 294 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: my oldest nephew, and I drove out and sat sixth 295 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: row in the end zone for that game when we 296 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: destroyed them, and it like, I don't know what a 297 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowl victory feels like, but this is just a 298 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: tier below. Yeah, So imagine going to get in Seattle 299 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: then going to Green Bay. We can get him in 300 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship. Now, so that's true. That would be 301 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: my birthday January nineteenth, wellthday, let's get Chris a big 302 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: birthday present exactly, but there was almost an amazing thing 303 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: that happened on Sunday night. Did you watch the game 304 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: with the sound on? Yes? So I don't know if 305 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: you pick this up, but I was ready to go 306 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: real viral on the internet because I was going to 307 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: record it. So the Niners score to go up twelve, 308 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: and I don't know who it was, but the camera 309 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: is on them in an end zone and some white 310 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: dude player on the team runs by the camera and 311 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: goes say you in round two? Did you hear that? No, 312 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: as clear as a microphone has ever accidentally picked up 313 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: a player, see ya in round two? And then Russell 314 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: Wilson touchdown, and if you got the next one I was. 315 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: I was ready to screencap that and send that to 316 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: the world. It would have been amazing. But that lack 317 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: of pass interference in the endzone, not only that it 318 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: didn't get called that they didn't even review it. To me, 319 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: that's why the review is in place, so when you 320 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: miss it, go back and review it. I didn't the 321 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: review of pass interference in the first place, But what 322 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 1: is the point? What is it You played seventeen weeks 323 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: for that moment and look at what it changed. Packers 324 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: don't get the one seed, Saints don't get the buye. 325 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: Vikings have to play the Saints and then the Niners, 326 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: not the Seahawks and the Packers. All that being said, 327 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: let's walk away from it because the other side of 328 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: it is, if you if you beat the Saints in 329 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: New Orleans, it's real, well, if this is this run's real, well, 330 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: and well beyond that, and then you have to go 331 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: back to the New York Giants back in the day 332 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: when they had all those runs, all their games were 333 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: on the road. Yep, they went into Lambeau and beat 334 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: Brett Farve on a game winning field goal on that 335 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: just started the entire run that Eli Manning had that year. 336 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: And I could see something a win like this in 337 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: New Orleans. I could see it just Okay, the Vikings 338 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: are back. Okay, here we go. That was the one 339 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: where Coughlin's face basically froze off. Michael Strahan, That's where 340 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: Coughlin's face froze and then stayed frozen for the next 341 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: twelve years. He went full White Walker. And in that moment, 342 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: and the other part with that that everyone forgets. That 343 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: was Brett Five's last game at lambo. Yes, and that 344 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: was I think for Viking fans, while they were reveling 345 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: in it so much, was just like, oh my gosh, 346 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: this is potentially it. And then he got traded and 347 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: he was gone, and the last remembrance that they had 348 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: at that moment was watching them walk off the field 349 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: losing to the Giants in a game that the Giants 350 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: had no business winning. Yep. Can I tell you a 351 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: secret that no one's gonna like. I was rooting for 352 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: the Packers in that game, and I can't stand the Packers, 353 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: but I just I have loved Brett Farves so much 354 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 1: for so like everything about I know it's everybody says it, 355 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: but just watching him play, I root for him on 356 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: a level that over takes over how much I dislike 357 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: that state and all their fans, and I was like, man, 358 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: that's a bomber to see it in that way. I 359 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: felt bad for him. I think. The other thing is, 360 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: if you do get this Saints game, I think the 361 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: best team in the NFL, and everybody's gonna think I'm 362 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: stupid because the Ravens exist. I think the Niners are 363 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL. I think Kyle Shanahan 364 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: right now is coaching at a level offensively that's almost incomparable. 365 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: He has. He has a combination of the right weapons 366 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: and an understanding that his job is to keep if 367 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: he can keep the defense guessing, which he has mastered 368 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: that this year with Between Kittle, use Check and Deebo Samuel, 369 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: He's got a wide receiver, a tight end, and a 370 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 1: fullback who are all so dangerous, and he uses him 371 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: in these unique ways where he's sending the fullback on 372 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: deep routes, he's he's doing a jet sweep with the 373 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: tight end. He's doing everything he does with Deebo Samuel's 374 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 1: like and that's that's what happens. I mean, I think 375 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel's really great, but I think when you're a 376 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: defense and you go, did he just hand it off 377 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: to George Kittle and throw a bomb to the fullback? 378 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: What the hell are we doing? And then all of 379 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: a sudden, wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver touchdown and 380 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: let alone Brita and Mustart, like Mustart was the journeyman 381 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: who's been on how many different teams, and both those 382 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: guys as a one two punch in the running game 383 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: for that team are amazing, but it's just to everybody's 384 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: off balance. I mean, I think any running but those 385 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: guys are good, but any running back in the league 386 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: would dominate there because the other team's like, what's happening, 387 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: what's happening, what's happening. Gone. And to support your feeling 388 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: of the Niners kind of being the favorite here, especially 389 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: in the NFC side Football Power Index, they have them 390 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: ranked number three as the most likely team to win 391 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Okay, they have the Niners and the 392 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: Saints above the Packers. As far as the percentage goes, 393 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: they've got the Ravens at thirty six percent, the Chiefs 394 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: at twenty two percent, Niners at nineteen, Saints at seven, 395 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: Packers at six, Vikings at two. So you're correct there 396 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: where writers and everybody are looking at this going the 397 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: Packers might be that high seat. At the same point, 398 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: they're rated third most likely to get to the Super Bowl. Again, 399 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: where everything shakes out at this point. Back to you, 400 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: Chris and your point. I do think there's a way 401 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: to beat this Saints team. I do think. I do 402 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: think leaving us off the video is silly. I do 403 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: think if you lose this game, I can see how 404 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: it's eight points because in the NFL you can be 405 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: down too, you know, driving for a win, throw a 406 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: pick six, like can get to eight points. Eight points 407 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: isn't unheard of. That doesn't bother me. But I think 408 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: anybody who thinks that this is a no win for 409 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: this team isn't looking at reality. And now I know 410 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: you were before we went on air. You were talking 411 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: about Michael Thomas. Yeah. I think the biggest thing for 412 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: the Vikings in this game, the biggest key is stopping 413 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas. He led the league in receiving yards this 414 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: year over seventeen hundred. His Twitter name is camp Guard Mike, 415 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: and I think that's like probably the closest thing Twitter handle. 416 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll let him put it on the back of 417 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: his jersey anyway, Do you think he's trade he broke 418 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: like all these Like I he broke the record for 419 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: receptions this year. You gotta like at least give him 420 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: that credit. So tip of the cap. I want to 421 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: see Mike Zimmer with everything on the line in this game, 422 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: and I know he's gonna do it. Is let's see 423 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: the Belichick model of take away the best player on 424 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: the other team. That is what the Patriots have done 425 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: and all these runs that they've had, they take away 426 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: the best option on the other team. They did it 427 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 1: to us when we went into Foxborough last year. They 428 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: took away at him, feeling he had one of the 429 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: worst games I've seen him have healthy since he's been 430 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: a big part of this offense. I want to see 431 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: that mindset on Michael Thomas. And I think we were 432 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: talking about this before the show. That starts with having 433 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: a safety who can help out whoever that cornerback is, 434 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: whether Xavier Rhodes, Trey Wayne's, whether you switch him off 435 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: to give each other breaks. I want to see Jaron 436 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: Curse be a part of this defensive plan to stop 437 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: this big bodied wide receiver because I think he can 438 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: have a huge impact on the game. Now, let me 439 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: push back on a couple of those one I agree 440 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: and disagree. I don't know that I think Michael Thomas 441 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: is the best player on the Saints. I think he 442 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: might statistically be the best player on the Saints. I 443 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: think he is. I think he might be the best 444 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: wide receiver in the league. I don't know, and I'm 445 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: not smart enough to know, but I'm not going to 446 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: sit here and guarantee that if you stop Michael Thomas, 447 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: you beat the Saints, I would say, and going to 448 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: your Patriots example, I don't know that at that point 449 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: Adam Theelan is necessarily the best and Adam Feelin's amazing. 450 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that he's clear cutting away the best 451 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: player on the vikings at that point. I think what 452 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: the Patriots did is they went, Hey, everybody is working 453 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: real hard to stop Stephan Diggs and the rest of 454 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: this passing game, and Adam Feelin is clapping off against 455 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: everybody for one hundred yards a game, and they went, 456 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: you know what, let's not let him do that anymore. 457 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: So they took away a thing that was working for them. 458 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was necessarily attacking the most 459 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: important So I think much like the Seattle game which 460 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: we lost, in the Cowboys game, which we won, I 461 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: think you're right. I think you have to decide, because 462 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: anybody who thinks let's to decide who you want to 463 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,479 Speaker 1: don't go with those resources. You want to know why 464 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: we're underdogs because they have one of the greatest quarterbacks 465 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: to ever play football. They have one of the best 466 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: running backs in the entire NFL. They have the best 467 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: receiver arguably in the entire NFL. They have a fantastic 468 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: backup running back. As we know, they just are loaded 469 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: with offensive weapons. And when that happens, you have to 470 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: decide who you want to stop. In that Cowboys game, 471 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: we were at Dak and Amari Cooper get everything they 472 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: wanted and we shut Zeke down all game long and 473 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: it paid off. In that Seattle game, we tried to 474 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: shut down Russ and we let the running backs take 475 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: their chance, and it bid us. And there were other 476 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: factors in that game where we lost. But so I 477 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: agree with you. To me, it's Drew Brees. Drew Brees 478 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: is death by a thousand cuts. Yep. He is the guy. 479 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: Like even last week's game he had nine different receivers 480 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: for receptions. He's gonna find whoever is open on the 481 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: field and make you pay, right yea. So for me, 482 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: when you're talking about Michael Thomas, his whole pieces, don't 483 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: let him get yack yards. Yeah, don't let him get yards. 484 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: After the game, I agree with that. I love that. 485 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: But for us, where we have struggled, it seems like 486 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: in a bunch of these bigger games is the running 487 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: game where they've gashed us like you were talking about Seattle, right, Yeah, 488 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: two hundred plus yards kind of a thing. And oh, 489 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: by the way, we're looking at Kamara and Taytran, so 490 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 1: we know these guys that are coming at us, but 491 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: based to sistically, have not had their best years and 492 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: they're still racking up these wins even when Teddy was 493 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: their quarterback. So for me looking at this year, going, yes, 494 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: you need your defensive line with Lindvall, Joseph and those 495 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: guys to stay stout and stop them. But when they 496 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: do drop to pass, that is when you have to 497 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: get in Breeze's face. That is my feeling this week 498 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: is their game statistically that they had the worst all 499 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: year with Breeze was against Atlanta and in that game 500 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: he took six sacks. They gave up six sacks the 501 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: rest of this season. Yeah, and that is why when time, 502 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: when Breeze has time, he is going to slice you 503 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: up if you do not get in his face. And 504 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: we've got to get home against him. Well, and that's 505 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: so and that's my feeling there. The Vikings have could 506 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: have two distinct advantages in this game. We have Dalvin Cook. 507 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: We have Dalvin cook, which means are we have our 508 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: play action game, which means we have an offense that 509 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: should move. I don't want us to play scared. I 510 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: don't want us to like. I don't want us against 511 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: a dominant offense. You have to be careful if you 512 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, if you run run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, 513 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: and you're not successful and you're working really hard to 514 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: and I know this isn't a surprise to anyone, but 515 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: you're working hard to establish the run and it's not working, 516 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: and they get a couple shots on offense after you've 517 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: given it to him on three and outs, you're gonna 518 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: have a really, really, really long day. I think the 519 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: interesting information that's prevailing about running in this league, and 520 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: I think that's something that the Vikings have really figured 521 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: out and excel at, is I think the old wisdom 522 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: is that you have to run a running back a 523 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: certain amount of times to be successful. I think the 524 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: current truth is we just have a really good running 525 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: back that the defense has to respect, and if we 526 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: can execute around that, whether it's handing it off to him, 527 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: whether it's screen gaming to him, or it's play actioning like, 528 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: the offense has to work around the threat of him. 529 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: But I don't know necessarily that you have to hand 530 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 1: it off fifty times, and I think that's something the 531 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: Vikings as they've found their groove offensively in the second 532 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: half of the season that you've seen. That's why the 533 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: play action has been so successful. So when I say 534 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: you need to get down there and use Dalvin Cook, 535 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily, in my opinion, mean he has to 536 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: be a dominant handed off in between the tackles. I 537 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: think it just means he has to be what the 538 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: Saints are worried about, and that's a huge advantage for you. Well, 539 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: this goes back to what you're just talking about with 540 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 1: San Francisco. It's keeping everybody off balance. And those are 541 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: the games that we've had the most success in this 542 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: year when we were like fifty fifty run pass but 543 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't your traditional Adrian Peterson up the gut to 544 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: smash everybody in the face. It was more of your 545 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: it looks like a pass and all of a sudden, 546 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: you hand off to Dalvin and he's got space. That's 547 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: this team. When this team has been rocking on offense, 548 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: that's my favorite and I like and that's what we 549 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: were talking about Kyle Shannon. I think that's something that 550 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is an absolute master of big package, two 551 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: tight ends, all this and all of a sudden boom 552 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: we go to Rudolf. It looked like a run. We 553 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: go to Rudolf. And so that's that's one advantage I 554 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: think we really have down there. The other one is 555 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: if the defensive line shows up, you hit it on 556 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: the head. If Drew Brees has time, it's just gonna 557 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: be a long and I'm not saying you can't win. 558 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be a long, difficult day. But the 559 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: other side of that is if you bring blitz pressure, 560 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: you better get home. You just better get home. Can 561 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: I give you? Can I can I show Kirk level 562 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: love for a different player, a Corso Kirk level love. 563 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: You want to know how you win this football game? 564 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: Just an old school throwback performance from Xavier Rhodes. If 565 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: Xavier Rhodes has one of those like you know, like 566 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: this is my last Like I know he's gonna have 567 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: He's got a lot of career left. But you know 568 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: the old the old cop who's like, you know, I'm 569 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: getting too old for that. But if you if Xavier 570 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: Rhodes Kurt Reynolds coming in at the end of the 571 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 1: longest yard last play. Yeah, if you can again let 572 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: us emphasize that. I think Xavier has a bunch of 573 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: career in front of him, but he's been playing his 574 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: side of the the field this year and I think 575 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: that's what will continue. But man, imagine getting just like 576 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: a big shutdown performance from Xavier on Michael just a 577 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: big physical because I gotta Thomas is so big and physical. 578 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: I gotta believe that if you if you have a 579 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: guy like Xavier, who I think in past matchups against 580 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: the Saints, that is what Xavier Rhodes has done, going 581 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: back to the Minnesota miracle, I'd be he was great. 582 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: He was great against Michael Thomas the whole game. He 583 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: wasn't the one who hurt us. The one who hurt 584 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: us in that game was at the end the second half, 585 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara just went off and brought them back. Well, 586 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: they kicked the field goal to take the final lead. 587 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: For that final lead before the final that was when 588 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: Peyton starts doing his skull chant and all that kind 589 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: of a thing. You know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so, 590 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: But that's you just hit my point, Chris. I think 591 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: that if I'm Sean Payton, I go you know, their 592 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: their past second Dary has had its ups and downs 593 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: this year. They're gonna be really worried about Michael Thomas. 594 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill him with Kamara, Like to me, I 595 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: want to go into this game, and because think about 596 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: it this way, even with everybody saying how much our 597 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: past he ends. Everybody keeps saying and even to the 598 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: point where now I'm saying it, our past defensive struggled, 599 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: our past defensis struggled. Zim has come on and said, like, yeah, 600 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: not as much as you guys think, you know, And 601 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: even in games like the Seattle game, it was a 602 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: blown communication on their big touchdown. So I'm not convinced 603 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: that this past defense is as vulnerable as everybody thinks 604 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: it is. To me, I'm stopping Alvin Kamara. I'm trying 605 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: to keep Drew Brees under pressure. If Michael Thomas gets 606 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty yards on you and three touchdowns 607 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: and that's why the Saints win, you tip your hats 608 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: to him. One of the guys for me that really 609 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: stands out every time I watch a Saints game is 610 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill. Yes, it's a ridiculous name. Yes it's a 611 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: ridiculous player. But the guy throws passes, catches passes, and 612 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: runs the ball and blocks and blocks. He is their switchblade, 613 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: and he is that kind of guy that I'm saying 614 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: they want to keep us off balance. All of a sudden, 615 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: everybody is covered and then Taysom Hill somehow is standing 616 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: by himself in the corner catching touchdown passes constantly. That 617 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: guy drives me nuts every time I watch game because 618 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, why is this guy doing what he's doing. 619 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill always seems to be the guy that when 620 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: everything else is shut down, he's the safety valve and 621 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: he can make you pay. I know it's the ridiculous take, 622 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: but don't think it's ridiculous. I think you could wind 623 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: up in a game where a lot of Vikings fans 624 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: yes are cursing at Taysom Hill. And so I've watched 625 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 1: enough Saints game to know that you're exactly right in 626 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: big moments that dude's like, are they running a triple reverse? Yes, 627 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: flea flicker to Taysom Hill in the end zone. You're like, 628 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: what is happening? Here's the other thing. I don't like 629 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: the Saints. I can't stand the Saints. I hate like 630 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: somebody put on Twitter that video, a video of how 631 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: we lost the two thousand and nine championship games with 632 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: the litany of garbage calls and the you know, the 633 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: extra hits against Brett Farve, and I just I don't 634 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: like him. I just, oh, I just do not like him. 635 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: So I well, we'll see how it all pans out. 636 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: I think it's Viking fans should enjoy the week because 637 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: it's fun. It's a fun tie breaker because it's one 638 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: one in the playoffs in recent history, and that one 639 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: one we just alluded to it is crazy finishes. It 640 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: was the Brett Farve interception, and it was the Minnesota miracle. 641 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: It's just a really really crazy, interesting, fun tie breaker. 642 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: And again I'm fine being underdogs. I would tell you 643 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: I think if if a Vikings team walked into a 644 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: Saints game like this overconfident, I wouldn't love that. I 645 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 1: want him to be us against the world. I just 646 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: I want that go down there, punch him in the 647 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: mouth early, make one big play on defense, punch him again, 648 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: and now let's see you come back now with the 649 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: best running back in the world. Let's see you come back. 650 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: I want to touch on one more thing, and that's 651 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: the injuries that the Saints are battling right now. They 652 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: do not have Sheldon Rankins, He's on the IR big 653 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: part of that rushing defense. They do not have Marcus Davenport, 654 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: who's also on the IR, one of their pass rushers. 655 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: I know they have the big pass rusher on the 656 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: other side, Cam Cameron Jordan, which he's going to be 657 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: the main one that you're gonna have to worry about 658 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: stopping with fifteen and a half sack this year, but 659 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: also their secondary. They had safety Marcus Williams, Von Bell 660 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: and cornerback Eli Apple all questionable last week. They're all 661 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: battling injuries. They're not one hundred healthy. They have about 662 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: a mid twenty passing defense in the NFL this year. 663 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: I know we want to run the ball, but you're 664 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: also gonna want to test those defensive backs down the field, 665 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: and that's the whole thing. You got to keep Cam 666 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: Jordan off balance as well. You can't let those guys 667 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,719 Speaker 1: put their ears back because Cam is a game wrecker. 668 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: Cam literally had one tackle last week in their blowout 669 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: game against the Panthers and it was a sack. And 670 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: that is the kind of player that he is. We 671 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: all know Cam, we know his dad, we know his history, 672 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: we know his legacy. Cam as a game wrecker. It 673 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: comes down this week to line battle. Once again. Our 674 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: offensive line has to show up. That gives you Delvin, 675 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: that gives you time for Kirk, and on this one 676 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: you have to put Cam in check. Otherwise he is 677 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: going to make your day miserable. I agree with that. 678 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: You guys both just kind of did it, but we're 679 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: still going to do it. What is as we close 680 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: this show, here's what's the If you could pick one 681 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: thing that you want to see happen in this game, 682 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: the one one thing that puts us on a path 683 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: towards pulling the upset and heading off to San Francisco, 684 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: what is it? I have a I have an outside 685 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: the box one. Look at Chris, did you part your 686 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: hair the other way today? Chris feeling spicy. I want 687 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: to see ladies and gentlemen outside the box here. Let 688 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: me do sound effects. It's time for outside the box core. 689 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: So that was the box opening. I want box opening 690 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: sound effect. I want to see a deep touchdown pass 691 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: to see jam from Kirk to either Adam Fling or 692 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs. I think when that's happened in these games, 693 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 1: and it's happened a lot this year, especially the Diggs, 694 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: when when theland hasn't been out there, I think a 695 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: big play down the field from the offense is what 696 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: we're missing in those games where we were right there 697 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: against Seattle. What we're missing in the in that game 698 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. You need to hit that early. Yeah, 699 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: you have to hit that early. I was gonna say, 700 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,439 Speaker 1: don't talk trash. Remember what treadwell when we need Yeah, 701 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: at the end there when we missed it, you're saying, 702 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: you're saying, okay, we missed it, saying a big play early. Yes, 703 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: I want to see a big play play early. It 704 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: was weird you're outside the box. Take was a deep pass? No, 705 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: I want to see you want to see us take 706 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: a shot early? Yes? I like that that is and 707 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: I would agree with that. Onto Jay Nelson. Back inside 708 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: the box for Jay Nelson. The box is closed. That's good. 709 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: I am comfortable here inside the box. My biggest thing 710 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 1: is red zone limitations on Saint's top two targets, shocking 711 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is one of their top two targets inside 712 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: the red zone. But they're other one is Jared Cook. 713 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: They're two tallest guys and they're two biggest bodies that 714 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: they have down the red zone art fifty nine percent 715 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: of their red zone targets. Those two guys are the 716 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: guys I want to see us shut down because what 717 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: that does then is it says, Okay, is it going 718 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: to be Kamara or is it gonna be Taysom Hill 719 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: at least defensively, you know who to key on. Those 720 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: are their top two targets in the red zone. I 721 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: love it mine. Is it outside or inside the box? 722 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: Where in the box? Dancing on the box? Take land, Um, 723 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: I am going to go way outside the box. Yes, 724 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: end of the year, giant take. This is going to 725 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: contradict everything I've said, because everything we've built in in 726 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: this podcast so far makes it that the opinion of 727 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: this podcast is you need to play smart, really execute 728 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: and probably win the time of possession battle and you 729 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: know this, this is a sort of game that you 730 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 1: want to win twenty four twenty one. So all that 731 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: am I wrong? In assuming that's kind of where we 732 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: landed as a team. Just coincidentally, the last two times 733 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: we've played, it's all come down to the last second. 734 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: So here's here's now where I contradict it. We have 735 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: shown and I've said this on all the podcast pretty 736 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: much that I have hosted for you guys. I want 737 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: I want to see the no huddle. I want to 738 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: see the no huddle. You just said it. They're twentieth 739 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,720 Speaker 1: in defense on passing defense when they're healthy, Cam Jordan, 740 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 1: you want to know you want to keep them up bounced. 741 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: I want to tire them out. Now. Are you asking 742 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: for trouble by trying to play speedy against the Saints? Yeah? 743 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you have to play all game that way, 744 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: but I'm saying, like, you know, when you're playing blackjack, 745 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: which none of us play, but you know, when you're 746 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: playing black jack and you're playing five dollars and five 747 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: dollars and everyone in a while, you know what, I'm 748 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 1: gonna play twenty five dollars a hand for four hands 749 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: in a row, and if you win them, you're like, 750 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: oh boy, my wife isn't gonna yell at me at all. 751 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: And if you lose them, you don't tell her what 752 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: happened at all. So there's there's a high risk, high 753 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: reward situation here. But to me, the reward of beating 754 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: that team up and down the field with a no 755 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: huddle early in the game, that's the playoffs. It's it's tempting. 756 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: It's tempting to me. It's it's the it's the on 757 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: side kick aspect. Should I do? Because conventional wisdom, I 758 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: don't think you if you're the Saints, you know the 759 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: no huddle exists. But there's no way the Saints are thinking, 760 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 1: you know what, they might come in here and try 761 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: to match us and run up and down the field. 762 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: There's no way they think that that is the Saints ball. Yeah, 763 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 1: that is what the Saints do. That is why they've 764 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: been successful. So do you go at them? And do 765 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 1: you do? You there's that old adage when you really 766 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: want to beat someone, do you attack their strength? Yes? 767 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: And I understand I'm wrong, but no, you're not. Because 768 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: in my vikings forty eight Saints eleven, I tried to 769 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: do the horn, but I did like a prepubescent like cow. 770 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: I am on board with you. You are in the playoffs. 771 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: You are going for broke. You don't want to sit 772 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: here at the end of the game and go, well, 773 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: if we had done it this way, maybe we would 774 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: have had a better chance. Yeah, it sucks to play 775 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: one of those games where you like, it's like it's close, 776 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 1: but you don't really feel like you're executing. But also 777 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: they're not executing and it comes down and it's a 778 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: field goal and you feel like you didn't take your shot, 779 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, And obviously that's not how anyone would feel. 780 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: But I like attacking their strength. But that's the thing. 781 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: Think about the Saints when they had their success, especially 782 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: in O nine. We all remember what happened at the 783 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: end of our game, and we all know what happened. Yeah, 784 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: super Bowl Jay, we remember, You're welcome and O nine. Though, 785 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: the thing for me that gave me respect for them 786 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: was when they came out in the Super Bowl second 787 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: half and kicked an onside kick against the Colts. Nobody 788 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: expected that that changed the tide, and it showed their 789 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: team that their coach said, I have all the faith 790 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: in the world on you go out and win this thing, 791 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: because I'm going to give you the opportunity to do it. 792 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: Philly did the same thing in the Super Bowl. When 793 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, if they were the Philly Special. We have 794 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: to do the same thing against the Saints down in 795 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: New Orleans. Punch them in the mouth, Gopher broke and 796 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 1: get the win. Thank you for re executing my point, 797 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: Jay Nelson, Vikings pro Grammy notes to close up the show. 798 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: All our shows here at V and the Vikings entertain 799 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 1: Mitt Network are running through the playoff push. This season 800 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: includes Chris's Show with our superstar quarterback Kirk Cousins, Under 801 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: Center with Kirk Cousins, and this week Who's his Guest 802 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: Chris Stefon Diggs Join Steffunday. Get it on our feed, 803 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: which you're listening to right now, the Minnesota Vikings podcast feed. 804 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: The MVP podcast will keep going Wednesday's online School Stories 805 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: Thursdays on kf a N with Henry Thomas. Also on 806 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: our podcast feed. On Friday, Mister Corso, Christopher Corso and 807 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: I will be hosting Vikings Final Prep Friday night, kf 808 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: a N six thirty to seven pm. Playoff postgame show 809 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: on Vikings dot com and Vikings social media account. Last 810 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: time we did when it was a few weeks ago, 811 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: We're doing a playoff one and remember to subscribe to 812 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: flash briefings on our smart speaker guys, it's playoff time. 813 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: Let's go get one. Let's go get one, and let's 814 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: do another one of these podcasts next week. I'll see 815 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: you next week.