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Speaker 1: Chest and right now I would like to introduce I'm
Speaker 1: about to introduce, and before I introduced them, I would
Speaker 1: like to say that when I hear the best labels
Speaker 1: of all times, when I hear the best cruise of
Speaker 1: all times, and when I hear the best anything of
Speaker 1: all times, and these people don't involve these people that
Speaker 1: as here with us right now, it actually makes me
Speaker 1: mad because duck Down has been here just as long
Speaker 1: as Bad Boy. Duck Down has been here, just as
Speaker 1: long as death Row dumbed down, and in certain instances
Speaker 1: has outlasted death Row and bad But a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't just say that. A lot of people don't
Speaker 1: just give them props like we're not. Just seen the
Speaker 1: emergence of Young m A and a lot of people
Speaker 1: didn't know that they he was she was ducked down
Speaker 1: of affiliated, I realized that a lot of people just
Speaker 1: don't understand the genius a Buckshot, Evil d and Drew
Speaker 1: Hall and Joy Badass. You'll have something to do with
Speaker 1: Joy Badass A little bit that you don't say nothing
Speaker 1: you want, Charlie, I'm gonna guy yours folded like with
Speaker 1: you know how you gonna start your middle there? Relax
Speaker 1: somebody funny in your pillow, So somebody's funny. Not in case,
Speaker 1: most of my faith far relax. So we got the
Speaker 1: most luxurious the label that stuck together. You have problems,
Speaker 1: but you're stuck together at the end. And tonight we're
Speaker 1: going to beat this up. We are and we ship
Speaker 1: introduced our guests, but let our guests introduce theirself first.
Speaker 1: We're gonna start with the White Man. He ran a marathon,
Speaker 1: drew high up in there. Let's make h yeah, Tex
Speaker 1: Smith and Western was yeah yeah, General still Smith and
Speaker 1: Western DJ Evil d burning that Price Sean Price White.
Speaker 1: So being that you started as the last last year,
Speaker 1: the first, So I'm gonna start with you, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say what when you heard that, um, Sean Price
Speaker 1: was what ducked down? What was your first in the
Speaker 1: field reaction? I was like, wow, are you sure you
Speaker 1: want to do this? All right? Cool? I don't know
Speaker 1: if that was good or back that was good actually
Speaker 1: because I've known him since I was thirteen, so he yeah,
Speaker 1: Sean So you know he would um, you know, say
Speaker 1: as little raps and be like, oh you're still gonna
Speaker 1: be around and listen, and I'd be like, yeah, when
Speaker 1: I'm going you don't want going somewhere, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And he'd be like, nah, I'm gonna do this,
Speaker 1: and he would rap to me and I'd be like,
Speaker 1: you're pretty good. You should get you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Pretty good? And basically, you know, it was the starting
Speaker 1: and so so what's the sean price? You like more?
Speaker 1: When he was in a coup on when he went solo,
Speaker 1: When he went solo, I ain't gonnallow me too, because
Speaker 1: I felt like I felt like I felt like he
Speaker 1: felt like I don't. I don't feel like I feel
Speaker 1: like as as are all fair. I felt like he
Speaker 1: felt like he was held back in a certain way.
Speaker 1: So everything he did as a solo artist was like rebellious.
Speaker 1: It was rebellious and the most like respectful disrespect. I agree,
Speaker 1: you agree? You know, um you know, when you you're
Speaker 1: in a group, um Nigga's hand this, um ways you
Speaker 1: carry yourself. You know, you're carrying your team, you know,
Speaker 1: and then when you become a solo artist, it's just
Speaker 1: like me, you know what I'm saying. You don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about, you know, exposing anything or whatever the
Speaker 1: case is, because it's you so you know, um rock
Speaker 1: rock is different from Sean pri well, so so deep.
Speaker 1: I ain't go front. I didn't even look at that
Speaker 1: like that. So now I want to take it to
Speaker 1: the beginning of Duckdown too Hot. Buckshot came to you
Speaker 1: or you came to Buckshot? How does this? How did
Speaker 1: this conversation start? I was working, I was an intern
Speaker 1: at a at an independent label, Nervous Records, Nervous, and
Speaker 1: but I sort of nervous own duck Down. I was wrong,
Speaker 1: not for a minute the way they they literally on this,
Speaker 1: but they had us in a situation for a minute.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Buck Buck was a newly signed artist. Chuck
Speaker 1: chill Out brought him to the label to Nervous to Nervous,
Speaker 1: and I literally was like I was right out of college.
Speaker 1: There was a small independent label, like three or four
Speaker 1: people up there, and I just started doing a little
Speaker 1: of everything. And Buck will come up to the label
Speaker 1: every day. He would like literally come in to try to,
Speaker 1: you know, see how he was going to advance his
Speaker 1: career up, and he's putting the pressure on the on
Speaker 1: the label and eating five would be there. But Buck
Speaker 1: was there pretty much like a few times a week
Speaker 1: and we just developed a friendship. I was an aspiring rapper, right,
Speaker 1: so what was your only was I wrapper up? But
Speaker 1: look the verse? You could go look it up on
Speaker 1: a song called Many Moons. Yes, I have a song
Speaker 1: on the Black Moon album on Into the Stage called
Speaker 1: You the Man With with Mobb Deep Smith and Wesson
Speaker 1: and Black Moon, so you can it's the ill Caucasian
Speaker 1: to that album. Back the check the Invasion. All right,
Speaker 1: So look look I never really you were saying, like
Speaker 1: you said, right now, he picked the verse. We know
Speaker 1: the verse chill out. I know, ut right, people that
Speaker 1: it was a classic DJ still is a classic DJ.
Speaker 1: But even at the time he was an influential DJ
Speaker 1: on I think it was the seven point five and yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna check chill Out. Yeah, that's right right. Anyway, long,
Speaker 1: long short, I've quickly learned my calling wasn't to be
Speaker 1: an m C. You know, being around professionals, you know,
Speaker 1: being around certain rights. We could joke around about it,
Speaker 1: but I often say, like, you know, m seeing a
Speaker 1: lot of people like to do it. It's like baseball
Speaker 1: on the way, like you could have a rect league,
Speaker 1: you could play Little league, you could play even high school,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that you should be in the
Speaker 1: pros and being around professional m c s. I learned
Speaker 1: quickly the difference of like what I was doing and
Speaker 1: what was being done, and just for me, it didn't
Speaker 1: seem the route that I was gonna go. So so
Speaker 1: you started out trying to be an m C I
Speaker 1: was working. I had, but that was on the side.
Speaker 1: And then so what initially made you say I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get down with you Buck to make this, I mean,
Speaker 1: just just the circumstances like we would just it wasn't
Speaker 1: like it was a grand plan. It was just more
Speaker 1: we were going through the motions and it was it
Speaker 1: was really when Buck, when Buckshot introduced me to these
Speaker 1: two right here, it was underny because that was your
Speaker 1: first artist. That was that was the first time that
Speaker 1: we looked at it and said we could take another
Speaker 1: group and kind of do what we're doing with black
Speaker 1: Moon a little bit. And it wasn't even official right
Speaker 1: at that point. It was more like filling in and
Speaker 1: doing certain things because black Moon was because essentially it
Speaker 1: seemed like black Moon was like the new Arab b
Speaker 1: and rock Camp because they had had had a DJ
Speaker 1: and then it had you know the artist, but so
Speaker 1: actually it's two buck at five. Yeah yeah, so far
Speaker 1: so he fathers chowing, he's home. I'm saying, okay, so
Speaker 1: let's subscribe. Let's let's let's suscribe your story. Oh man,
Speaker 1: listen the black Moon. Um well, first of all, beat minors.
Speaker 1: Beat minor started day I was born. Because that's my
Speaker 1: that's my brother, Mr Walker. You know, that's my older brother.
Speaker 1: And I kind of got into what I'm doing. What
Speaker 1: I you know, we save you know, we're gonna save it.
Speaker 1: You let graduate that hell yeah, we gotta graduate. But
Speaker 1: I don't know why. He's just he knows we gotta
Speaker 1: graduate on the day every day over yeah yeah, continue
Speaker 1: all right. So, um, you know my brother Mr Walker,
Speaker 1: you know I've seen him DJ and you know it's
Speaker 1: like see your big brother do something, you get jealous.
Speaker 1: That's how I got into music because I was jealous.
Speaker 1: He's getting all the attention and anybody was like, yo, yo,
Speaker 1: your brother's nice. I'm like, I'm nicer than him, three
Speaker 1: years older than you know, and he um, you know,
Speaker 1: so everything he did I did. My brother worked. He
Speaker 1: used to work at the music factory on jamaka ab
Speaker 1: Crost from Carlos and everybody in Queens when everybody in
Speaker 1: hip popping Queen's winning that store one time or another.
Speaker 1: And he knew everybody. So when he started, um, produce
Speaker 1: some music. I started producing music. I started when when
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to cut you off, but when was the
Speaker 1: when was the time that you said this is for real?
Speaker 1: Well music as of making records and everything, like like
Speaker 1: women's that moment that hits you and said this is real.
Speaker 1: Once we once we actually went into the studio, a
Speaker 1: studio before we got you, you had a head. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got the deal and you know, we had a
Speaker 1: deal before and it fell through, and um we got
Speaker 1: the second deal, which was nervous rackets, and you know
Speaker 1: I still was like, Yo, whatever, man, I'm still gonna hustle,
Speaker 1: sell these tapes, do these parties. I'm sorry Tom. The
Speaker 1: first drink, you're taking this tag of bone and now
Speaker 1: I was drinking some of this because I just I
Speaker 1: didn't even know what it is like. Now, don't stop
Speaker 1: your draw I just wanted you're gonna start with tages a.
Speaker 1: Just if you're gonna start with it, you're gonna start
Speaker 1: with it. I had some of this, he started with
Speaker 1: the road who but you haven't finished your roles because
Speaker 1: it's still in your hand. We're gonna make this court.
Speaker 1: You're gonna make this clip. You cannot drink t bone Wabby,
Speaker 1: I'll be rapping somebody cat because I so so I
Speaker 1: need to understand that because you guys, you worked that
Speaker 1: nervous You worked that nervous intern. Buck is an artist,
Speaker 1: that nervous you are. That's the artist. When Buck got signed,
Speaker 1: we all got signed. But was it already black Moon
Speaker 1: the group? Already black Moon's nervous? And you know, we
Speaker 1: go up a nervous druids in there holding it down.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't know what the funk I
Speaker 1: was doing. But you're not. You don't know. I'm like,
Speaker 1: but you know what it was we came into the label.
Speaker 1: It was it was a factor of we came into
Speaker 1: the label that there was working but nervous record. You
Speaker 1: just look around and look at a everybody and you
Speaker 1: just see that one person that you know, yo, that's
Speaker 1: that's get it. That's my nigga right there. Get it.
Speaker 1: Drew was that dude Like when we walked in and
Speaker 1: we gave anybody, yo, what's up? Ya, what's up? We've
Speaker 1: seen Drew was like what Drew? You good? And what
Speaker 1: happened was, um, a situation happened and Drew actually jumped in.
Speaker 1: He's from into action. Okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He went from being Drew to do it with the
Speaker 1: label to Drew of duckdown without even knowing it. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And that's what happened, Like YO,
Speaker 1: believe it or not. I literally put my head down.
Speaker 1: I looked up Drew a book like, yeah, duckdown. That's
Speaker 1: exactly how duckdown happened to me. Let's make that sounds
Speaker 1: The name was down was always the name. How did
Speaker 1: it happen to you? Because then I'm I mean that
Speaker 1: that was essentially it was like over time they had
Speaker 1: the management, some management situations were going on. We were
Speaker 1: we were acting and serving in that role. We started
Speaker 1: doing a lot over when who got of props came out?
Speaker 1: The props start making the record start going on. It's
Speaker 1: five ft evil being buck shot. Everybody does never know
Speaker 1: what everybody does like that right over that for everybody?
Speaker 1: Five now make sense? Nothing? Who the problem? Who the problem?
Speaker 1: We're running around buckers at this point, he's looking for
Speaker 1: a new monagement, right, and so we're running around, we're
Speaker 1: doing a lot of things. I actually set up a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of meetings for Buck with different managers that
Speaker 1: I knew or that was coming across in Like, I
Speaker 1: wasn't even seeing myself in that role yet. I'm still young,
Speaker 1: I'm still I just I just didn't picture like that.
Speaker 1: We did a few meetings and Buck will come out.
Speaker 1: And at the end he said, you know what, and
Speaker 1: I give Buck all the credit because he said, we
Speaker 1: could just do this ourselves, like the way we're doing
Speaker 1: it right now. Let's just keep doing it like this
Speaker 1: until you know, we see if we need more help.
Speaker 1: So I didn't argue with that. And you know, at
Speaker 1: that point, like I said, I was, I was speaking
Speaker 1: on it earlier, but he introduced me to to Smith
Speaker 1: and Wesson, so exactly where I was going. And that's
Speaker 1: that's all it took. Now, that's what it was, let's
Speaker 1: do it. So after he said let's do it ourselves,
Speaker 1: I said, in my mind, well, we're gonna this is
Speaker 1: at the time, right bad boy, and um, you're starting
Speaker 1: to get a little bit of no limit. All these
Speaker 1: things are starting to pop up these these labels, right,
Speaker 1: maybe it's kind of they just started. So I said
Speaker 1: the book. If we're gonna do this, then we obviously
Speaker 1: need the next group. And he he I think he
Speaker 1: was testing me early because he brought me a few
Speaker 1: things that were just the noodles, and I told him,
Speaker 1: I was like, no, not like artist. Yeah, he brought
Speaker 1: He brought a couple of things, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, he just brought me some desert s
Speaker 1: called him out on it, and he said, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, I got I got two guys you need
Speaker 1: to meet. And he started gonna bring him to an
Speaker 1: in store in New Jersey. And the next in store
Speaker 1: we went to, he brings Smith and Western and I'm videotaping.
Speaker 1: You can look this up on YouTube, but I'm videotaping them.
Speaker 1: Take a microphone. Evil puts on deep cover and needs
Speaker 1: to step up to the microphone in this. And remember,
Speaker 1: if you got to know what the in store is like,
Speaker 1: these youngs won't know what the in store right. But
Speaker 1: it was packed and they're ready to take their heads
Speaker 1: off in the in store if they don't represent. And
Speaker 1: he was up above the store. It was a black
Speaker 1: moon in store. So now I gotta ask y'all, where
Speaker 1: was y'all in life when y'all met them? Like what
Speaker 1: was this the focus to meet them, get signed or
Speaker 1: this was just like I'm nice to live, you know.
Speaker 1: For me, I wouldn't even around. I was hissing. I
Speaker 1: love security. I was still security and fresh were fresh
Speaker 1: out of high school in the streets, not even one
Speaker 1: fot in high school about to get thrown out the
Speaker 1: other foot in the streets in the hood. I'm from
Speaker 1: bed Style, he from the veil, so it's already tension
Speaker 1: in the hood. But some was doing mad talent shows
Speaker 1: and winning. For me, I always wanted to be behind
Speaker 1: the boards like an engineer, produce from very very very
Speaker 1: killer is places after Hill down the Hill, and like
Speaker 1: he was doing just talent shows and ship and um
Speaker 1: he had another partner that was rocking with the man
Speaker 1: last said, all I was doing was just security, just
Speaker 1: keeping the niggers in the bitches away. So um after that,
Speaker 1: after we met him riding around and it was the
Speaker 1: super ruter there. But because he said he said in
Speaker 1: New Jersey, is that actually meeting happened or a thing
Speaker 1: that wasn't the very first time. What I'm asking, did
Speaker 1: you know that when you met him? And this was
Speaker 1: like for me, I wasn't on it like that. That
Speaker 1: was that we used to like before, I guess before
Speaker 1: we before we actually met Drew High. Like me and Buck,
Speaker 1: you spent a lot of time together on Franklin Avenue,
Speaker 1: Franklin Union and just standing outside talking like Buck is
Speaker 1: a visionary, you know what I mean, So he he
Speaker 1: sees he sees the future, this guy, you know. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was aspiring to be on you know.
Speaker 1: And at that point it's just like, all right, these
Speaker 1: guys got to deal, so we're just gonna ride with them.
Speaker 1: You know. We were just shodowing these guys and we
Speaker 1: was learning everything that they was doing from the interviews,
Speaker 1: from the end stores, the studio work, and we should
Speaker 1: we shadowed them so from there yet we just picked
Speaker 1: up everything. Man, we knew he was next up. I
Speaker 1: won't say this um. When we was working on like me,
Speaker 1: I'm about first off, working used to always go just
Speaker 1: my man still, my man, still, my man still, And
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: let us do it we gotta do first, then you
Speaker 1: can bring your man still on you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it was funny because it would be Still I
Speaker 1: always knew it still and his man because Tech didn't
Speaker 1: say anything. So to see that what I'm still what
Speaker 1: I what I'm Tech, I had a something like and
Speaker 1: when he started rum and I was like, could talk.
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Speaker 1: Radio with Rapper and R and d Jes. Then, so
Speaker 1: now you guys come together now Immediately, Drew, did you
Speaker 1: did it? Did it dawn on you that you we
Speaker 1: gotta form this full fledged label or was you more
Speaker 1: and let's let's just let's just get the production company
Speaker 1: logo on there and not really be a label. We
Speaker 1: still would be happy. Honestly, we still weren't even really
Speaker 1: thinking that far ahead. I wouldn't. I could tell you
Speaker 1: it was this grand plan, but at that point it
Speaker 1: was we We brought them into nervous, introduced them to
Speaker 1: the same place we were. It wasn't until we went
Speaker 1: got the first round of, you know, royalty statements, that
Speaker 1: we were figuring maybe something wasn't wasn't matching up to
Speaker 1: the work bad? What was every first artist like Rember
Speaker 1: distributed Nervous. Nervous was independent, dependent distributed. It was bad.
Speaker 1: We negotiating that between seven groups. And that's when we
Speaker 1: you know, and now at this point we are seeing
Speaker 1: other we are seeing other entity pop up, and we said,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's go, let's go shop this. Right
Speaker 1: as soon as they came through the door, Um, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't long before they introduced us to Um Steele's
Speaker 1: brother um Sean Ruck and Rock and String and Louisville
Speaker 1: as the Fab five. So it didn't take long. Now,
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden being a look, it wasn't
Speaker 1: hard to tell when you have eight mcs that rhyme
Speaker 1: the way they rhyme, and everyone had a unique style
Speaker 1: and a unique look and came together to form like
Speaker 1: a voltron. Like you know, you just knew there was
Speaker 1: something special there. Even at that point, I think that's
Speaker 1: when we saw we could take the outside of Nervous
Speaker 1: and do our own things. But the first album was
Speaker 1: into the stage. The first one was on into the stage.
Speaker 1: Then the Shining. It calls so much disruption in jail, jail.
Speaker 1: I was in jail. They called so much disruption. Did
Speaker 1: y'all know? I can't speak on that because jail park?
Speaker 1: But did you know? Like, because I always asked people
Speaker 1: when they come on this show, did you know you
Speaker 1: were making a classic? No? Because we didn't even know
Speaker 1: what we were doing. We didn't know what Still and
Speaker 1: Buck was. The professionals in rhyming and wrapping, I didn't
Speaker 1: they knew what Bars was. I didn't know what Bars was.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to put together a song. You
Speaker 1: do eight sixteen in the chorus and this and come back.
Speaker 1: I didn't know none of that ship there. But you
Speaker 1: were nice still as soon as you as soon as
Speaker 1: you let versus that even be evil. You see this
Speaker 1: empire taking off, But for some reason we heard that
Speaker 1: evil the just disappeared at one. That's funny as a fan.
Speaker 1: As a fan, we loved Buck Shot, we loved Duck Down,
Speaker 1: but we missed you, like we we wondered where were
Speaker 1: you at? I'm talking about this is not Nori. I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about Nori. This is fan as hip hop.
Speaker 1: Because I missed a guy with the ship like this,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, where did he go? So so it
Speaker 1: is the explanation because I really don't know. This is um.
Speaker 1: You know, we went to go DJ. This is DJ girl.
Speaker 1: You know, I went on my DJ tour. I had
Speaker 1: had my Hot ninety seven show from ninety four to
Speaker 1: ninety seven. Flex flexile um, Actually, um, how do we um? Yeah, say,
Speaker 1: that's another duckdown thing. It calls the duckdown. And it
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I come straight on my on
Speaker 1: my DJ and then beat Minus you know, like me
Speaker 1: and me, me Buck and five was going through the
Speaker 1: whole nervous records thing and you know, like that whole
Speaker 1: thing kind of left for solid takes and you guys
Speaker 1: sort of blaming each other instead of looking at the
Speaker 1: bigger picture. He had kind of like it wasn't like that.
Speaker 1: It just we just felt it just we just got
Speaker 1: jaded by the whole business thing like that. And plus
Speaker 1: Buck wanted to build ducktown. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Five was locked up and you wanted to and I
Speaker 1: just you know, I got on I got on my
Speaker 1: d E ship. But we were running around with boot camp.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I was at the same time. They they
Speaker 1: was running around. They do they'll do the boot camp
Speaker 1: on the stuff. But do you look at that Ian Walk.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're instrumental in those first four albums from
Speaker 1: from Into the Stage of the Shining to help the
Speaker 1: Skelpton's nine turnover to O G. Sesar Storm. I think
Speaker 1: when you look back on it in a in a
Speaker 1: you know, a piece of time, it's easy to say
Speaker 1: where they go, But it wasn't really like that. It
Speaker 1: was you know, you're talking about from nine three to
Speaker 1: ninety seven at that time of making records. And then
Speaker 1: to his point to clarify, like the nervous situation when
Speaker 1: we when we did our deal with Priority Records, which
Speaker 1: was a West Coast based label. Part of what was
Speaker 1: still going on was the first it was like Brian
Speaker 1: Turner all the dudes you saw in the con Movi
Speaker 1: but but he but Black Woman was having that priority
Speaker 1: they try to we was held up in contract, held
Speaker 1: up in contract. So we were moving forward with Duck down,
Speaker 1: with health of Skelter and o GC. That's like a
Speaker 1: year and a half, two years a time in the
Speaker 1: making right there in Black Moon and Smith and Western
Speaker 1: were kind of they were in this legal battle, were
Speaker 1: nervous and they were frozen for my thing is I'm
Speaker 1: not because I'm not just gonna sit down like I
Speaker 1: was producing other other people. So it was no termoire.
Speaker 1: It was just like you just won. This is my family,
Speaker 1: and we go through a little family stuff. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, these are the dudes I
Speaker 1: came in to do it with, and I'll never front
Speaker 1: on them, you know, and I'm loyal to that what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Italy a lot of a lot of cats.
Speaker 1: I thought it was some bullshit whatever. Not. The whole
Speaker 1: thing is basically we had we was going through the
Speaker 1: bullshit of the lord of the label ship and you know,
Speaker 1: and also catch was building their own entities, you know,
Speaker 1: because because if it was it was some bullshit, trust me,
Speaker 1: it would have came out. I'm saying. But that's the
Speaker 1: only thing. It was just you know, family do another thing.
Speaker 1: So now now buck this is bucks Idea or this
Speaker 1: is you and Bucks. No, it was it was bucks Idea,
Speaker 1: but now Wuchanger had already came out. Just yeah, Wu
Speaker 1: Tang was we were black Moon was that was ahead
Speaker 1: of Wuchang because I remember, oh dirty Bastard came to
Speaker 1: a couple of show. We went camp came after not
Speaker 1: not not really because it mix of everything bubbling up.
Speaker 1: We came and right in a minute. The idea was
Speaker 1: invented before, Wuchange saying, but I don't think we looked
Speaker 1: at it like a supergroup, even though because they already
Speaker 1: had it was just Smith and Wesson, black Moon, there
Speaker 1: were one. They came out with the protection that as
Speaker 1: a whole, we came out Smith and Wesson. What actually
Speaker 1: happened with that lawsuit? Smith and Wesson try to see you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the gun company I changed the name is a gun
Speaker 1: company who kills me? Super fucking you making us to
Speaker 1: post the boys they like it was was he was
Speaker 1: in a consumer one sales music one, sobody see these
Speaker 1: gun that sells dead? Right? Let me find that musically
Speaker 1: all the cellsasically. They sent us a season desist a
Speaker 1: stack of paper as a latal turn. Yes, ceason desists
Speaker 1: ain't good? Yea the stop. We're going after the souls.
Speaker 1: We're going after anybody that prints you'll We're going k yeah,
Speaker 1: black straight blacklist. Now drew as you being executive, what
Speaker 1: did you feel with Smith and Western the gun company
Speaker 1: is sending your emails? There wasn't even emails back then.
Speaker 1: It wasn't paper contract super you like we are. When
Speaker 1: you get that, you can't serve. Do I do pluck?
Speaker 1: In my mind? What I do play? I don't play
Speaker 1: a cross see playing tennis God comes up again. At
Speaker 1: that point, it was still nervous to put the album out,
Speaker 1: so they're looking for the label boss. So they got it.
Speaker 1: They didn't want to put the money up to fight
Speaker 1: what what they knew was going to be a super
Speaker 1: loan of a lawsuit. We are caught in the middle
Speaker 1: of putting out a new a new album, and we
Speaker 1: don't want to get held up any further. So you know,
Speaker 1: they decided. We all decided jointly. We know that's how
Speaker 1: we make decisions. Like we sat down and chopped it up,
Speaker 1: and we said we're not going to stop the music
Speaker 1: over a name. And they came up with the name
Speaker 1: and how they wanted to move forward. And the hood
Speaker 1: was mad at Coco brother somebod just strow that up playing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody we love Swipper Western so
Speaker 1: much that when yes were the Koco Brothers, He's like, no, ye, like,
Speaker 1: who is that playing? I never said I never said it.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. That was I was like that
Speaker 1: was always something we used anyway, because during the whole
Speaker 1: time when when these guys was working on into the stage,
Speaker 1: we was we was bringing the weed to you know me.
Speaker 1: We were bringing the choo cho. You know, we just
Speaker 1: make some figure the funny flaws when they got just
Speaker 1: sitting come home. What so y'all not to cut you off,
Speaker 1: miss y'all, miss y'all like, um, it was a wood
Speaker 1: sign your mother, that's all. Look some most distract we
Speaker 1: getting quick. How you got was rapping and we all
Speaker 1: want to be like that's we don't want to from
Speaker 1: roers Hirsch. We all followed suit. We all don't general
Speaker 1: still juster still even you were rhyming before you met
Speaker 1: buck show actual fact. Yeah, so alright now, describe was
Speaker 1: the situation where you met buck shot? Where was your lack?
Speaker 1: I feel like ya was in mass he somewhere. I
Speaker 1: don't know, no buckets are you know? He eat eat
Speaker 1: pretty much? Did you change your light? I've crime it
Speaker 1: was sister Tracy figure, Tracy Figure. I went to school, Um,
Speaker 1: nice school, you know, I was a nice school, Westerhouse,
Speaker 1: and um I had to show at the Apollo. I
Speaker 1: mean she I had I did a couple of you know,
Speaker 1: with a variety shows Lawn Alexander, Brooklyn, Niggas Matt in
Speaker 1: Hollow Um not well, now we would meet up in
Speaker 1: Brooklyn and shoot up. The first the first we actually
Speaker 1: met super new or at the handle, so you bet
Speaker 1: them in all at the follow we had to show
Speaker 1: at the Hollow. Okay, you before you knew before a
Speaker 1: new brother was the first time we actually really you know,
Speaker 1: met but but before then it was just I just
Speaker 1: I knew it assist. I was in class with her.
Speaker 1: But you know, but that was we had no no, no,
Speaker 1: no building, no nothing before that saying we was on
Speaker 1: our own twist. So he seed you at the Apollo
Speaker 1: and he performed with us he whether it wasn't him
Speaker 1: and five after was dancing music the fucking five Houston
Speaker 1: also dance for m os t. Most old than I
Speaker 1: sound Trooper was with steal Me and a couple of
Speaker 1: people right that was the name before Sniff and wady R.
Speaker 1: I ain't learned already. Hold on, hold on, let you
Speaker 1: get some clarification. Before it was clear everybody was there
Speaker 1: was a dance used to dance too, but Sean used
Speaker 1: Sean used to dance to the Yeah what what was?
Speaker 1: What was for ship? Lay ship? That was his favorite ship.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go here, let me get yea no, but
Speaker 1: you had a show in Tompolo, which is a very
Speaker 1: big thing. Like Norlan. People don't get shows at Apollo.
Speaker 1: The common denominated between his Buck's sister Tracy, they went
Speaker 1: to night school and she was dancing lived in Queens.
Speaker 1: For some reason. She might live and Queens my mom,
Speaker 1: she might and my mom. But that was a common
Speaker 1: denominator to that was the link between still and from there.
Speaker 1: From then, that's when, because then if Buck was still
Speaker 1: on his grind doing what he was doing, but it
Speaker 1: just happened. She was like, yeah, my sip, my brother
Speaker 1: rat and he dances so at the Apollo. That's when
Speaker 1: you know, right there, Yeah, it up back in the
Speaker 1: days we were dancing in the club, standing on the
Speaker 1: wall looking, let's make looks. One thing and one thing
Speaker 1: I should notice about everybody. You guys are getting loose.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to ask you to leave, so listen.
Speaker 1: One thing I've noticed about Price was when he was
Speaker 1: in the Google, I felt like he was held. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say hell back, but it felt
Speaker 1: like he was contained the minute he became Sean Price.
Speaker 1: And I remember he took on the our narchy, the
Speaker 1: Focused Rapper. It was that ship was true man, he
Speaker 1: said the movie disrespectful balls. Ever, while he was claiming
Speaker 1: the Focus Rapper a lot, I mean, I was just like,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I don't know if you know,
Speaker 1: that was my favorite rapper, Like I said, character mode.
Speaker 1: When he changed his name, he changed name from rough
Speaker 1: to his real name, Price, and people still thought that
Speaker 1: was rapp when let we's see you know, people running
Speaker 1: to yo, tell Sean Price. You know, I mean that
Speaker 1: rock is you know what I'm saying, that Sean Price
Speaker 1: and he's the same person. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: that he know what? Did you notice that once he
Speaker 1: it felt like he was liberated, not in a where
Speaker 1: like like he was bad, but it felt like he
Speaker 1: was able to beat himself. When you have a partner,
Speaker 1: y'all work together. You understand what I'm saying. You can't
Speaker 1: direct the attention that just you. You gotta think about
Speaker 1: your partner, the team right, team player all the way.
Speaker 1: So when you become so low, it's all you, but
Speaker 1: you don't have I'm gonna stop him for a second
Speaker 1: six because some people go so low and they don't
Speaker 1: embrace the character that he embraced. He went solow and
Speaker 1: he was the exact itself everything around that funny ship
Speaker 1: and all that. I writed Sean, if he to a
Speaker 1: barbecue and left front video left, he came through, he said,
Speaker 1: he said, ship, it's probably dog I can't. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: saw your video. I was like, this is nigga motherfucker's
Speaker 1: now he's on no idea, Yeah, I had no idea
Speaker 1: what I was doing because when he said that, he
Speaker 1: had a gatorad in this hand, and I just really
Speaker 1: did like this, Yeah, and funnies. It's like a natural
Speaker 1: comedian funny, but at the same time it's being hands
Speaker 1: would slap the ship out, like where it's just something
Speaker 1: you either accept it and you rapped with it or
Speaker 1: you don't funk with him on him with you. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm so sorry to go in this dark place,
Speaker 1: but I just have to be in that. We're here.
Speaker 1: So how hard was it? Because the hip about community
Speaker 1: sat back and we heard that, you know, Sean passed away,
Speaker 1: and me personally, I was fucked up because me and
Speaker 1: me and Sean have been great forever, but we were
Speaker 1: getting closer and closer and closer, and it was getting
Speaker 1: closer to the point where I just we're call him
Speaker 1: and be like, your foul nigger what I did, because
Speaker 1: that's just like him to be curious. He was one
Speaker 1: of them. I remember old Boss up about you know, price,
Speaker 1: and he was like, welcome, yeah, and I was like yeah.
Speaker 1: He was like sure, he's hill And I said, you
Speaker 1: never listened to his lyrics because I said, you never
Speaker 1: told me, and was like, I think I gotta signed
Speaker 1: this guy. I think I gotta sign. And the week
Speaker 1: after he passed away and bus kept hitting me, and
Speaker 1: I didn't ask the bus calls for that week, not
Speaker 1: because I don't respect the bus, because I absolutely do,
Speaker 1: but it was just like, I just wanted to deal
Speaker 1: with the morning as opposed to what was going on.
Speaker 1: And then and then afterwards, I'm gonna be honest, Sis,
Speaker 1: everybody seeing how great Sean was. After hold on one second, Sis,
Speaker 1: one second, how many times did I was trying to
Speaker 1: call you? I was like, you tell Sean to come
Speaker 1: funk with me? Right, Because I really knew how special
Speaker 1: this kid was. I didn't know what to do with it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do with it. I know
Speaker 1: what to do with it now, but it's so many years.
Speaker 1: But but a lot of people have a lot of
Speaker 1: people did yes, So I'm just a lot of people did.
Speaker 1: You have to understand he had put out three solo
Speaker 1: albums and those ships. For an artist to reinvent himself, right,
Speaker 1: that's a very difficult thing to do, especially for what
Speaker 1: you call an old school artist or um you know
Speaker 1: whatever the whatever the phrases artists from following. He recreated
Speaker 1: himself where he was touring, where he was selling albums,
Speaker 1: where he was he was making a good as living
Speaker 1: stuff and be reinventing himself. Safrans fans and they kept
Speaker 1: doing it, and they kept show me when them and when.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of labels at that time and
Speaker 1: point that we're recognizing what was going on. I saw
Speaker 1: a buster one day in front of Transit on Broadway.
Speaker 1: I remember he pulled me and sick stickers all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: him outside trans and you know how a bust of
Speaker 1: grabbing when you went to Yo and he this is
Speaker 1: a couple and this is probably like a year before
Speaker 1: year maybe two before he passed, and he was like
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna work with Sean. I want to like,
Speaker 1: all right, well we already moved him, but everything would
Speaker 1: would always come back to Sean. But one thing with
Speaker 1: Shan is and he had the choice. He never switched teams.
Speaker 1: Said that don't matter, no matter that he never switched teams.
Speaker 1: So you've seen you've seen him in the group, and
Speaker 1: then you've seen him as a solo artist. Where did
Speaker 1: you think his space was more comfortable as as when
Speaker 1: he became Sean Price? Okay, explain he was able, you know,
Speaker 1: um because he wasn't funny at all as a group,
Speaker 1: Like I never laughed at rocking rock at all. It
Speaker 1: was like now Price comes, I'm like, that was the Brooky. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all I want. I always looked at myself like
Speaker 1: bis Markey with a gun. You see that. That's always
Speaker 1: I looked at myself and I said, damn this thick.
Speaker 1: It doesn't turn into Bismarke with two guys. He's got
Speaker 1: now Sean, Sean, I'm happy. It's like big but actually
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. That's always looked at myself because
Speaker 1: you know, picking bugers, picking buggers made me laugh and
Speaker 1: that and that was the police is that's something like
Speaker 1: the police your pride, you know, for that. So but
Speaker 1: that's how I always looked at Sean because Bis Markey
Speaker 1: was my idol and everybody hate it Bis and I
Speaker 1: hate it, and they just didn't, I mean from from
Speaker 1: my era, they didn't. You know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying my people didn't take Bis as serious as
Speaker 1: pain as Brock came or whatever. But this made me
Speaker 1: laugh and I always wanted to be entertained and laugh
Speaker 1: at the same time. And that's what you show. When
Speaker 1: BIS came, it was like, oh, that was the ultimate show.
Speaker 1: And then I'm not gonna lie. I felt like I
Speaker 1: took on that on our key. I don't know that word.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, excuse his homework. So um, I took on
Speaker 1: that and then I left it alone. And I left
Speaker 1: it alone and I tried to make club records and
Speaker 1: party records and all that. John reminded that you like,
Speaker 1: I'm being this when you know that, and he did that.
Speaker 1: So do you think because me personally, and this is
Speaker 1: some fun to say what, I'm gonna keep it real,
Speaker 1: keep I developed this perfect personality when I gained weight.
Speaker 1: After I gain weight, I was three d and fifty pounds.
Speaker 1: I didn't want people to look at my stomach became
Speaker 1: so I became funny. Concentrate That's how you can't concentrate
Speaker 1: on what I'm saying. Come train on everything else but me.
Speaker 1: But Sean never got big as me. So how does Sean,
Speaker 1: in your opinion, develop that that that you know personality?
Speaker 1: I would say, you know the struggle it takes you there.
Speaker 1: You know the ups the downs. You got personal problems,
Speaker 1: you got real problems. You understand what I'm saying. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, as artists, and I say this a lot um,
Speaker 1: we have to deal with the world, what the fans want,
Speaker 1: how people are gonna look at us, how to perceive us.
Speaker 1: At the same time, you're dealing with personal issues from
Speaker 1: your family. You want to help everybody, You want to
Speaker 1: make everybody happy, and all that ship just builds up
Speaker 1: you you try to direct your attention elsewhere. I'm saying, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's hard. Like he lost his mom's
Speaker 1: and then he had to get out there and do
Speaker 1: a show. You know what I'm saying. His mom you
Speaker 1: know she didn't raise them. But Sean Price, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie when she got on stage. It's so beautiful,
Speaker 1: makes a little off right. I don't know if y'all understand.
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all know what we do here
Speaker 1: at this show, but I'm gonna show the Price at
Speaker 1: the stage. Yes, talk about it. She was, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: brought it out, prope that prospect cart that was what
Speaker 1: what was that show called? That was with us? The
Speaker 1: stage of them and he from now the first time
Speaker 1: from but now she doing photography versus everything. You can't
Speaker 1: stop it with her now, Drew, I got a question
Speaker 1: for you, and this has to do with Sean Price.
Speaker 1: And this might be kind of wrong in a sense,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you why. This is one of
Speaker 1: the most depressing times I had in hip hop. I
Speaker 1: went to Shady Records, I don't know, I remember the
Speaker 1: year exactly, and I went to visit Riggs Morales and
Speaker 1: you walked in and you was pitching Sean to them.
Speaker 1: He was like yo, and he was giving the illest
Speaker 1: pitch to them. And I remember Riggs just like not
Speaker 1: not being sure of what you were saying. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: because I already know, I'm I know what what he
Speaker 1: meant to the movement, Like how could why would you
Speaker 1: question this? So I walked away from from that office
Speaker 1: like disheartened the hip hop, like why the funk were
Speaker 1: they not understand? This is a legend already. Why would
Speaker 1: you not pick this up? But and then you had
Speaker 1: to pitch it? I mean I probably went up there
Speaker 1: for for Paul because we were already cool. We first
Speaker 1: of all, we have yeah, we have history with them, right,
Speaker 1: that goes back to a whole other story that we
Speaker 1: we have at one to remember. I do remember that day.
Speaker 1: You also have to remember at a certain point right
Speaker 1: that we're talking about, like it is a lot of
Speaker 1: comedy to it, but they're like two burns point. There
Speaker 1: was a lot of struggle. Also around nine we've lost
Speaker 1: that glorious production deal that Priority Records, Smith and Western
Speaker 1: signed to raucous right with me and were sitting back
Speaker 1: going we gotta regroup and we gotta find new funding.
Speaker 1: We gotta find We went back to my apartment, like
Speaker 1: we went from offices on on in the penthouse with
Speaker 1: copy machines and all types of crazy ship to the
Speaker 1: copy machine being in my kitchen. So at the same
Speaker 1: time we're looking at we got artists that are active
Speaker 1: and we're saying we gotta we gotta do something for
Speaker 1: them as well. And we started making deals that that
Speaker 1: killed us, like we were dismantling the roster. Like literally
Speaker 1: at Smith and Western was signed to raucous records. But
Speaker 1: at the same time that that, I think that was
Speaker 1: like something that hurts and the beginning when he didn't
Speaker 1: ran out because you're saying that sign is hurt and hurt.
Speaker 1: It hurt us because we couldn't provide the home anymore.
Speaker 1: We couldn't provide that kind of wasn't just us no more,
Speaker 1: it was outside the outside entity. We made a new deal.
Speaker 1: We signed, you know, we signed a group like everybody said, alright,
Speaker 1: they was our deal. So so Sean was also without
Speaker 1: a deal. And so at this time, like Rock the
Speaker 1: partner and held the Skelter Rock, he had a deal
Speaker 1: with with Priority. They kept him through that deal. So
Speaker 1: they were allowed, right they were, but it was it
Speaker 1: was through that contract. But they were allowed to keep
Speaker 1: one artist from our roster, and that's what they chose.
Speaker 1: They chose it, that's what they chose. They were in
Speaker 1: our contract. They were allowed to keep one act and
Speaker 1: they chose Rock, And I think that put a huge
Speaker 1: chip on Sean's shoulder, you know. And so we we
Speaker 1: went back to finance, we went back to a We
Speaker 1: went we went back to putting out in singles. And
Speaker 1: at that time, there were a lot of like, you know,
Speaker 1: different different labels were called Steve Rifkin called um, you know,
Speaker 1: Paul called. So we were taking a couple of these
Speaker 1: exploratory meetings, like I thought that might be a good
Speaker 1: fit for him, like if m if he did a
Speaker 1: deal with him, that was something he would have happened,
Speaker 1: I swear, But I don't know how hard I was, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I walked away from that so hard.
Speaker 1: I was like, how could this not work? But I
Speaker 1: never felt like saying like because I like not makes sense,
Speaker 1: like why why you have to pitch that now? But
Speaker 1: I never no, bringer, I never felt like that. That's
Speaker 1: why I guess the independent spirit damn. But when I'm siding,
Speaker 1: I didn't leave that meaning to him anyway, I'm doing
Speaker 1: the game at that point on so I'm even like
Speaker 1: like felt in the are just rap, just can't get
Speaker 1: it already. Family, So you know what I'm saying, You're
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Speaker 1: me ask you'll something that's collective. As a collective, to me,
Speaker 1: you changed the face of hip hop because y'all was
Speaker 1: the first. People like Wutan came after y'all. Even Master
Speaker 1: B came after y'all. I said, they want to contain
Speaker 1: their music and keep it together, But in my opinion,
Speaker 1: y'all was the first people to do it. That was
Speaker 1: the first people to say I'm gonna maintain and stick
Speaker 1: together and do what they do. Now. Was that was
Speaker 1: that attitude that all of y'all. Brother Oh, that was
Speaker 1: just your ball. I think that that that was everybody.
Speaker 1: That's why after one group, we always went back and
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Speaker 1: They came back and they we O G C. That's
Speaker 1: why I was the great, That's why they was that fast. Five.
Speaker 1: It was that was that was we was used to
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Speaker 1: have we didn't have the support of of like we
Speaker 1: didn't have the O G s in the industry giving
Speaker 1: that Jews. So everything we did we learned. We was
Speaker 1: like on the job training like buck was is it
Speaker 1: extremely smart doing the job training? We don't know nothing
Speaker 1: about me lea. We learned everything we learned we was doing.
Speaker 1: Internet was like yo, we we had to come up
Speaker 1: to the priority to to to get on the internet
Speaker 1: and talk to the fans. Nobody wanted to do that,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean not everybody is on the phone
Speaker 1: like tweeting and text in every five seconds. And so
Speaker 1: it's like we learned from each other. So we was
Speaker 1: used to that. And when we wasn't on the road,
Speaker 1: we was at we was at home, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. He was trying to find the best weed
Speaker 1: spots in Brooklyn and Hall. I was like, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was Les name games to Wilson, head out, every
Speaker 1: Queen's niggers waiting broking for the best weeds going on.
Speaker 1: Lewis Lois like seven. That's how I caught a lot
Speaker 1: of queen's doing. I'm like, y'all, we we're on the
Speaker 1: corner of my house. School drop. It was at least
Speaker 1: two times a week I was bump into you and
Speaker 1: ray at body bag you take? So let me take
Speaker 1: something this. I see this again every weeks while New
Speaker 1: York and were just look at it. What you what
Speaker 1: you're doing here? Damn Hi, I'm gonna see your name.
Speaker 1: Were both there for the same reason, but I just
Speaker 1: want to keep the team big enough. Duck down because
Speaker 1: it was something that that really bothered me. The other day.
Speaker 1: I believe the guy that was here earlier, I think
Speaker 1: he tweeted me and said when is guy No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: the guy he said, you know the god that guy
Speaker 1: other now white, that's your right guy I did. It
Speaker 1: was Henry who tweeted me and they said we aren't
Speaker 1: going to have him dunk down on and you know
Speaker 1: what I said, were ready to get Buckshot. I think
Speaker 1: it was time for buck Shot. Where's the guy? I said,
Speaker 1: he's gonna think the guy. I not only wanted to
Speaker 1: get dun in don't protect him right now, but I
Speaker 1: wanted all of you. I want to hold on the phone.
Speaker 1: I got past. I wanted all of y'all together. And
Speaker 1: not only did I wanted only y'all together, because I
Speaker 1: get mad when people mentioned the greatest labels all time,
Speaker 1: and people Richard mentioned the greatest independent people of all time,
Speaker 1: and then they don't mention y'all, Like I personally get
Speaker 1: mad at that. I appreciate that because it's like I
Speaker 1: survived it. I lived it, and they're still here. How
Speaker 1: can you fucking not include them? I mean, we came
Speaker 1: from we came from We came from a place that
Speaker 1: that that raised us as warrious man, like you know,
Speaker 1: going through going through the older labeled drama and you know,
Speaker 1: um losing people caluties of war. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: rock open on contracts and stuff like I guess we
Speaker 1: developed hard skin man. And it's like we've always been
Speaker 1: underdogs and we never looked for anything. We always did
Speaker 1: it ourselves. Like it started as duck down management and
Speaker 1: went to duck down records when we was when we
Speaker 1: was down, like any other team, when we was down,
Speaker 1: fat fire was up. You know when we when we
Speaker 1: got back up, we got back with the fat five.
Speaker 1: So it was just us through the whole, through the
Speaker 1: whole thing that we never looked for. We never looked
Speaker 1: for anything. Man. I think Drew and and Buck was
Speaker 1: genius is in the sense that they got it after
Speaker 1: a while and said we can do this ourselves. Once
Speaker 1: y'all got popping. Was there other labels that came into
Speaker 1: play and said up, down, come with us, let's talk
Speaker 1: about it. Let's talk about it because Drew needs to
Speaker 1: feel good. Don't know about it? I got said, Man,
Speaker 1: we was already groomed, man like we was not. It
Speaker 1: wasn't You couldn't. You couldn't take from you. Gonna make
Speaker 1: joke because even Sean Prank made jokes. Sean Press said
Speaker 1: I would have left for nobody wore from me a deal.
Speaker 1: He told me you would take me with him though
Speaker 1: he said he always you like with that big check,
Speaker 1: you want to deal with him? Right? He wasn't. I
Speaker 1: did him. You know, what's the relationship for me? When
Speaker 1: I did my bid? Right, it was. It was. It was.
Speaker 1: It was not a lot of it was not a
Speaker 1: lot of people I could count on, but it was.
Speaker 1: I was getting fan mail. I was getting bags of
Speaker 1: fan mail. I was getting a lot of fucking fan man.
Speaker 1: But I got one letter dud. I was like, I
Speaker 1: loved that. I was like, no, this can't be real.
Speaker 1: It was for fucking rock. And I looked at that
Speaker 1: ship said death and he spoke on behalf all y'all
Speaker 1: niggas like yo, I'm speaking on behalf down, like my nigga,
Speaker 1: We're riding for you. And I came home and I
Speaker 1: sucked you separate. I sucked you separate. I spoke to
Speaker 1: you separate. That was the really ship, Yoda. It was not.
Speaker 1: I didn't get no male from no limit. I didn't
Speaker 1: get a man from den. I didn't get the mail
Speaker 1: from fucking I got mail from y'all niggas. Man put
Speaker 1: on home and make millions, and did get a male
Speaker 1: from millionaires. There's really ship of my life. Now we
Speaker 1: know that we know the better shit of that man.
Speaker 1: That's what we came from us. We was raised in
Speaker 1: the hood. I even gave me loving jam like that's
Speaker 1: how we hooked up with pops like baby, that's real
Speaker 1: because y'all was fucking possible for anybody. That's what the
Speaker 1: baby brown baby. They don't got baby. I don't don't
Speaker 1: got baby powder in Miami. You know, I got the
Speaker 1: fake Motimorial niggers. They don't gotta. They don't got they
Speaker 1: got Egyptian and ship like that, like you gotta get
Speaker 1: right of it like fake. You gotta have fake coloonna
Speaker 1: every day. Everybody not gonna do like the Polis. I
Speaker 1: don't know that once besil starters like a motherfucker. What else?
Speaker 1: How to day? How is how is that? Because it
Speaker 1: feels like all right, now you know what all that
Speaker 1: other ship. But we gotta make you know what we
Speaker 1: gotta make this is the distinction clear right, because we're
Speaker 1: going through a couple of decades of what we've done,
Speaker 1: and so along the way we evolved and we understood
Speaker 1: that we had I have to make the distinction too,
Speaker 1: between between boot Camp Click and Duckdown. Right we can't
Speaker 1: Click is a supergroup comprised of all the artists that
Speaker 1: we're talking to right Down. But then Duckdown is a
Speaker 1: label still would go on and we distributed a lot
Speaker 1: of records for some artists that you may not even
Speaker 1: think that were the distribution company for We put our
Speaker 1: records from Cares One. We put our records from be Real,
Speaker 1: from Pharremont, from Black Rob. We've done four records for
Speaker 1: Statics selected with ninth one with Pete Robe and we
Speaker 1: we we evolved into a into a label, a consultant
Speaker 1: company in the distribution company because we had to. We
Speaker 1: had to move with the times. It wasn't just gonna
Speaker 1: be about but see, I'm a be this real careful
Speaker 1: because you're gonna get me in trouble. You see the videos.
Speaker 1: Just see the videos. Young and May runs through a
Speaker 1: partnership that we have when we handle her distribution of marketing.
Speaker 1: But she's got right now, but she has her own
Speaker 1: entity and we're very careful and respectful of how we
Speaker 1: presented because she's not technically on duckdown. But what is
Speaker 1: well we work for her people out again. Look and
Speaker 1: you have asked, she just went three times platinum on
Speaker 1: on them. Gonna throw up you trying to say, be
Speaker 1: like so anyway, we don't down. We do that to
Speaker 1: a subsidiary company called three D and that that's just
Speaker 1: so so now explain that to upcoming artists who would
Speaker 1: like to be downright we meet. We made a lot
Speaker 1: what you're doing for these new artist because people don't
Speaker 1: understand that new artists have old school people behind them.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean you put a good team, you
Speaker 1: put a good team together. Getting up on iTunes is
Speaker 1: not going to do it for you. A lot of
Speaker 1: people can go to tune Core or whatever and think
Speaker 1: the records up on iTunes and they're good. You still
Speaker 1: need a good network of people, experienced people that can
Speaker 1: go and talk to these people and get you positioning
Speaker 1: and get you marketing things and brands and different deals
Speaker 1: and bunch of strategy together. So that that became our
Speaker 1: role with with with m A. And we have incredible
Speaker 1: success with her and big up to her. She you
Speaker 1: know she's doing her thing like she's fully independent. She's
Speaker 1: fully independent. We handle her distribution and her marketing. So, um,
Speaker 1: what did you do? What did you do? Because I
Speaker 1: soaked to a couple of radio people, and a couple
Speaker 1: of radio people told me you do your A couple
Speaker 1: of radio people told me that you called them and said,
Speaker 1: how do I moved this record right? Right? So we
Speaker 1: dropped the record. She got the viewers that everything was
Speaker 1: starting to move, you know, but on radio wasn't only
Speaker 1: Flex went on it early and we had brought her around.
Speaker 1: We made many rounds with way before she dropped. She
Speaker 1: she had a several videos. Static can tell you. We
Speaker 1: brought in the Statics house. We were making our rounds
Speaker 1: and introducing them to the DJ's, bringing her everywhere she
Speaker 1: had to go. And when she caught the record, Flex
Speaker 1: had already seen it, you know. He went in on
Speaker 1: the record. He believed in it, and he started to
Speaker 1: go on it and and literally from Flex supporting it
Speaker 1: spread to the other DJs and a good records. A
Speaker 1: good record, man, it's not I wish we could take
Speaker 1: more credit for it. And a lot of times even
Speaker 1: some of our artists around us going it. What did
Speaker 1: you do? Who'd you pay? What? You know? Like good
Speaker 1: music sells itself, It really does. When your new artis,
Speaker 1: when you're legend, you have a great record, you're right
Speaker 1: and still times right now people she's she's shot. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to cut you because I want you to
Speaker 1: don't continue ship um, but when you are legend, you
Speaker 1: have a great record, and they'll just be looked over.
Speaker 1: But if you have the new artist hype, and I
Speaker 1: believe she had the new artist hype. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: she created that hype. It she did a thing with it.
Speaker 1: Definitely etatic static. You always come on making this ship.
Speaker 1: I mean that's always happening, right like like generically about
Speaker 1: the caller right now, but generically like calling we buckshot
Speaker 1: what cold? We were coming from a place where when
Speaker 1: we like like we shot baby mass from my hood,
Speaker 1: was it say, you know what, fact where we brought
Speaker 1: the life, We brought life to the music, Like we
Speaker 1: wasn't imitating life that we brought the real life to
Speaker 1: to the to the beats, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like, um, what the fun little guys, you're
Speaker 1: about to get kicked out. Throw it out there. I
Speaker 1: biggest fans was due from Brownsville du dudes, from dudes
Speaker 1: from best star dudes that knew the story. So it
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't. It was not from Brownsville buckets, from Crownhimes,
Speaker 1: Um East East. They thought the Brownsville Um white plane Bush.
Speaker 1: I used to be flat Bush, always be straight, jamaking queens,
Speaker 1: jamaking about all shut up man, you know you get
Speaker 1: off the brown did you're making about while the clocks
Speaker 1: clocks on? Listen dating this right, this is where she
Speaker 1: used to go, making me spec that's he had, you know,
Speaker 1: quez to get a He asked so much and all that.
Speaker 1: Come on. That's where we are right now. They got
Speaker 1: to my man saw all the south side south side
Speaker 1: of wings has to bring bucks back and hold that
Speaker 1: so they can put in the mic in the front
Speaker 1: front of Mike. You hit me you want you want?
Speaker 1: You want a baby with the drink? Drink your bucks.
Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Bos? You know? Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Boks out? You just your boy and a learning we're
Speaker 1: learning it after finally, that's right. That's what's going on
Speaker 1: with my brother. How you doing my brother? It's I've
Speaker 1: been good man, I'm gonna man, I'm I'm back into
Speaker 1: saying I'm just don't get him covering it. I'm kind.
Speaker 1: So we heard the thing everything horn and you know
Speaker 1: we heard that you're fighting a certain thing. That's the
Speaker 1: reason why you couldn't come out tonight. Do you do
Speaker 1: you want to share with the people or you don't
Speaker 1: have to if you don't want to. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's a good conviction. You know a lot of people.
Speaker 1: People know that the whole even seeing me staying up
Speaker 1: for like the medical marijuana and stuff. And then you know,
Speaker 1: like Visi Pele thought that was a joke. And then
Speaker 1: because I started doing like a lot of restas into
Speaker 1: that because of know, I heard that it helps with epilepsy, right,
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, uh, just you know me,
Speaker 1: you know that's something that I was diagnosed with, you know,
Speaker 1: early two dollars, and you know, and and and and
Speaker 1: and it's not you know, it's a real situation. There's
Speaker 1: millions of people out there that's that's that has the
Speaker 1: same situation that I know can think you benefit from
Speaker 1: a from a voice like me, you know saying educating
Speaker 1: people on in recently to maintain you also down when
Speaker 1: the in situations where they may not have a consistent
Speaker 1: inal situation and not only is but a lot of
Speaker 1: other physical conditions that people suffer from. You know, it
Speaker 1: becomes a mentor I provide when you you you see
Speaker 1: other I guess quote unquote really a normal wish quote
Speaker 1: normal resident. But sometimes you don't know what every individual
Speaker 1: omselves is dealing about. Our culte through. So sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: extra voice on the side to tell you, YOI everything's
Speaker 1: gonna be cool. Everybody dealing with something, but no matter
Speaker 1: what it is, you know, he pushing forward. Maintain hold
Speaker 1: your head, maintain your health. You know, don't stress, you know,
Speaker 1: saying staying your regiment things that makes to study, study yourself,
Speaker 1: make sure you know, because ain't nobody gonna do it
Speaker 1: like you for you, you know, saying, no matter what,
Speaker 1: you always got to be the one that staying on
Speaker 1: the top of yourself. Like the entertainment industry is a real, real,
Speaker 1: real stressful industry. And I know every artist who did
Speaker 1: in this game knowing you know what I'm saying, There's
Speaker 1: time when I've done the road and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't wish this one more work anything but what
Speaker 1: but the love of getting on stage. It's the places
Speaker 1: at all, you know what I'm saying. So so that
Speaker 1: combination right there together can become, you know, a rush
Speaker 1: for some people and a heavy load for others. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you something. Let me ask you something before
Speaker 1: you were you get about it, Describe what epilessy, what
Speaker 1: does the epilepsy? To describe what that is? Like, what
Speaker 1: does it do to you? It makes you feel weak.
Speaker 1: Epilepsy is uh, it's a neurological uh disorder. Basically, um,
Speaker 1: every everything that we do in our body daily focus
Speaker 1: actually comes from my brain. You know what I'm saying now,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. And sometimes the average person is just say,
Speaker 1: you're not that active. People with epilepsy gett nervous firing
Speaker 1: extra extrass so that it's like a motherfucker that's just
Speaker 1: stribling on on actual speed, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And and that being the case, sometimes when the body
Speaker 1: stretches out, when it takes on too much, you can
Speaker 1: know you knock up, you do what they call have
Speaker 1: what they call ethesure, or you lock up or you know.
Speaker 1: People have different forms it. Some people look, some people steer,
Speaker 1: some people some people may just you know, lock on
Speaker 1: the way up from who just you know, some people
Speaker 1: want is out of the different forms of an out there,
Speaker 1: but basically all expense from the same hyperactive another cells
Speaker 1: in the claim. So it foundations out there a lot
Speaker 1: of you know people, I'm pretty sure y'all thought me
Speaker 1: seeing them and probably walk right by them because people
Speaker 1: didn't know what that disorder was or a lot relegant
Speaker 1: it was or whatever. But it doesn't ressert you that
Speaker 1: when you don't clive ten cents came twenty ft a
Speaker 1: dollar or whatever actually goes a long way, man, because
Speaker 1: I started doing a lot of research in the foundations
Speaker 1: did that and they help you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: that help well? Buck yo, man. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know what's going on right now. Right now,
Speaker 1: we're saluting the whole duck down legacy. Right now, we're
Speaker 1: here with Drew, We're here with Miss Sean Price, We're
Speaker 1: here with when you could do that, We're here with
Speaker 1: tech and still and then a poem wants you to
Speaker 1: you I would turn you were at than me. You
Speaker 1: you forgot about okay. It was the time with me,
Speaker 1: you and the young okay, okay, and we were shunking brock.
Speaker 1: I think at the time, me and my dude you
Speaker 1: want Juls like it was due. I think it was
Speaker 1: like you know that this is the first time, like
Speaker 1: you were okay, and I think it was sticky. It
Speaker 1: was something she said blacks, right, you just say cracks
Speaker 1: like yeah, someone over the third also get the black
Speaker 1: subs out and if you fell sleep. Uh huh you
Speaker 1: did something. Jimmy did something to me. I fell asleep.
Speaker 1: Buck is this is going one? My bad? Buck. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but you know y'all, but your baby malls in my hood,
Speaker 1: your baby Mamo from left Frank a little bit. Then
Speaker 1: you have left Frank Yo want to say something to you.
Speaker 1: Hold on, no, no, no this Paul, what's up? Baby?
Speaker 1: What I heard up? He said? You know, I just
Speaker 1: I just want you to like to know the people
Speaker 1: where they can donate that, you know, to epilepsy in orlands. Right,
Speaker 1: I think if you can't share it shoe because you
Speaker 1: can't share shoe. Um um, it's shot the uh Epileptic Foundation.
Speaker 1: Actually it too, but uh I gotta I gotta go
Speaker 1: your ever foundation, uh Google, Google and your friends getting
Speaker 1: I'm trying something. Story story Okay, I like, have you
Speaker 1: go to truck with store, be with Boogoo telling Boogoo
Speaker 1: love company. Study. It's a little young lady who she's
Speaker 1: about She's right, she should be about ten years ago
Speaker 1: right now. She sat the whole with the research and
Speaker 1: the stuff that they get to her and all the
Speaker 1: like the opportunity to dad to be so bad and
Speaker 1: everything that they came for her. She has been good
Speaker 1: for like a couple of years now, so you know, um,
Speaker 1: you know, and and just you know, just it don't
Speaker 1: even have to be this because any any other foundation
Speaker 1: that because again we're different beating in this situation where
Speaker 1: you just super beating a high food man for broke
Speaker 1: leg and you see all the even you you just
Speaker 1: see all the misfortunate and stuff like on you. You
Speaker 1: know what, your life is a precious thing man. You
Speaker 1: know he appreciated. Love it and live it or live
Speaker 1: it out. Man. That's what I did. Made you see,
Speaker 1: look man, work down for life, duck down down for life.
Speaker 1: You see when the man coming Nash, we wanted the
Speaker 1: last moke that very much of crushed down from many
Speaker 1: of the rains, right right. That's what that's that's what
Speaker 1: that's what we're get into tonight. Yeah, y'all, we're bigging
Speaker 1: y'all up, y'all, y'all Nicks originated fucking pop Pope gave
Speaker 1: y'all the most love y'all, the original bad boy, the
Speaker 1: original death roll hold on which one of y'all had
Speaker 1: to let them road the pock hold on. Hold on,
Speaker 1: Let's press the buck and let me coming back. You
Speaker 1: just don't even know he would, yo, Buck. I just
Speaker 1: want to thank you so much, my brother who wants
Speaker 1: you to get you get well soon and you already
Speaker 1: know drink chance. We're all about bigging up our legends.
Speaker 1: If we need you on here that someday once you
Speaker 1: get well, we want you back. We want you on here,
Speaker 1: and we want to say thank you so much my brother. Yes,
Speaker 1: Recipe shaw Price, that's right for one love my brother big.
Speaker 1: So now I hate to go to this so I
Speaker 1: hate to after this great call, after we have the
Speaker 1: beautiful miss shaw Price here, after we have all this,
Speaker 1: I hate to go to this question, but I have
Speaker 1: to ask this question. Go forward. How the fund did
Speaker 1: y'all cash be for Biggie Small. I was waiting for
Speaker 1: that one. I wasn't there. I was seven. Got your
Speaker 1: way a getting out of this one. I know I
Speaker 1: didn't make somebody like you in the video opposite. Nobody,
Speaker 1: nobody ever asked y'all all the time, and ain't about
Speaker 1: then is asking about it. That's just that was my
Speaker 1: nigger from long time, like big from the stone, from
Speaker 1: the stars, my brother and um. It was just a
Speaker 1: miscommunication and misunderstanding what happened. And you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it was over get Money. No, it wasn't. It
Speaker 1: wasn't was it was dean that it was just a
Speaker 1: was just it was just son that even wasn't this
Speaker 1: po go down away it went down? It was it
Speaker 1: was just hotheads against hotheads, youngest against youngest and then
Speaker 1: the way it got niggets through water runner and the
Speaker 1: fire was put out and that was it me what
Speaker 1: actually mean a video dudes had we can't forget that's
Speaker 1: had that core red that get Money core dudes recorded
Speaker 1: that song. Dudes recorded that song, so we had that
Speaker 1: so O g C had that song already original class
Speaker 1: right now. We went to Palladium that night we saw
Speaker 1: Biggie performing it, so it auto magically. The youngest was like,
Speaker 1: oh they you know, stole my joint, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? So because they had a song called get Money. No,
Speaker 1: they had a song with that. With that, course I
Speaker 1: could be asked which nobody owned that? That's somebody else's
Speaker 1: super rics really, but in that climate, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, that climate, that Palladium climate, and then you
Speaker 1: got then you got the then you got the label.
Speaker 1: The label was always looking for the juice where they
Speaker 1: can find the juice act and you know, let's let's
Speaker 1: let's the label. The label fed the fuel to that
Speaker 1: was j Clark Kent and Easy LP LP. It was
Speaker 1: y'all producer and LP was Bigg East producer Eloy Like,
Speaker 1: you know, you told us a story. You know, the
Speaker 1: nothing about Yo, it's not nothing to talk about Like yes,
Speaker 1: Ututa yo, chill out he want, Here's not nothing to
Speaker 1: talk about it. Like I said, Big was my nigga
Speaker 1: and these are my family. These are my niggas. I'm
Speaker 1: a bad start nigger from birth to the death and
Speaker 1: Big was my nigger for life. It's still Junior Mafia
Speaker 1: Ski all of me. So it don't have to be
Speaker 1: coming up for that ship that is don't know about it.
Speaker 1: If you don't know about it, then it's not you
Speaker 1: wasn't dead. You don't need to know about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand that, and I respect that to one percent.
Speaker 1: But you know what we do is we just we
Speaker 1: just Yeah, respect to what you do, man, but certain
Speaker 1: ship and certain things my niggas don't know. I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about nigga. At the end of the day, this
Speaker 1: is hip hop his too true. So sometimes we have
Speaker 1: to talk about but things that the wound is already held,
Speaker 1: and this is the wound right here. See that everybody
Speaker 1: think it's bigger. Ain't here to clarify, ain't no, I would,
Speaker 1: I would if I would prefer y'all clarified, even if
Speaker 1: even if y'all were then, But the thing is, the
Speaker 1: thing is we have to address this because we were
Speaker 1: I was in D and D when I felt the pressure.
Speaker 1: I felt the pressure where I'm like, they're like, yo,
Speaker 1: you can't go there, Like why, like he goes, you know,
Speaker 1: biggest on my side. I'm like okay, and they're like
Speaker 1: I didn't sunk down on the other side, and I'm
Speaker 1: in the middle. I'm in the middle and we're premo.
Speaker 1: We're doing primo. And then we heard some ship. And
Speaker 1: the thing about it is, I ain't trying to general
Speaker 1: on the negativity in case you thought in case because
Speaker 1: we think about no, but think about it is this
Speaker 1: is for the fast. Sometimes the fast. No, sometimes they
Speaker 1: don't know. Sometimes they do. Sometimes they don't need Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know why they don't need it. You ain't
Speaker 1: killed big, You ain't killed big. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So that's what they need to hear. So so, so
Speaker 1: what they needed is you say that misunderstanding like I
Speaker 1: would be my motor my motorbike, my motorbike, pedal bike
Speaker 1: or whatever. By even driving through the hood of my car.
Speaker 1: Big would pull up on your part and get in
Speaker 1: my car. We would go uptown to every week spot
Speaker 1: that's the weed spot that for at least two hours. No, no,
Speaker 1: we've been sold and it drugs because me Big Money
Speaker 1: all is up in there or de rockets in there
Speaker 1: for literally an hour and change didn't come back to
Speaker 1: the block. So are you saying are you saying and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm gonna get a little deep. So all
Speaker 1: you saying when when the beef actually did happen with Big,
Speaker 1: you was in like damn, what was going on? Because
Speaker 1: describe that moment. That's what I'm asking. Subscribed that moment
Speaker 1: because because I heard this is what I heard from
Speaker 1: the streets that Get Money was a duck down Wreckord
Speaker 1: Big came into the studio. He heard it and he
Speaker 1: just like, fuck it, I'm gonna just do But he
Speaker 1: did a different version of it. It wasn't y'all version,
Speaker 1: but it was the same basis, and he felt like
Speaker 1: he didn't even like talk to y'all. So and and
Speaker 1: is that with the beef started from I'm sorry, I mean,
Speaker 1: I love it, be man, it wasn't. I mean just
Speaker 1: just you know the problem through all that. I think
Speaker 1: what what caused the escalation of the ship was the
Speaker 1: videos because there was no communication. Because when you love communication,
Speaker 1: you like understanding. That didn't do a video when y'all
Speaker 1: was beaten up? And when you went there's no communication,
Speaker 1: you have three parts and three entities thing, Oh well,
Speaker 1: well why something? But but Big, that's your man. But
Speaker 1: is that when Pop? Because then Pop, no, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: having that word pocket braced y'all because I wasn't. I
Speaker 1: don't think that really had nothing to do with it
Speaker 1: because Park was down with y'all anyway. Yeah, when when
Speaker 1: we see when party was locked up, Me, Big and Pop,
Speaker 1: we all all three of us as geminis. So that
Speaker 1: was our bond we had anywhere June and many strology,
Speaker 1: but it was that was always but now that was
Speaker 1: always our bond at we had. Pop wasn't even in
Speaker 1: the picture. Pop had nothing to do with it that.
Speaker 1: I was not nothing to do that it was. But
Speaker 1: the thing is, I just want to and look, look,
Speaker 1: you know, you name, you know, but I just want
Speaker 1: to address it for hip hop history, because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I'm not coming at this as Nori.
Speaker 1: I'm coming at this as a fan. Your guys came
Speaker 1: in the game before me, digging and outside looking, and
Speaker 1: that's how it looked. It looked like Big and y'all
Speaker 1: have problems. It looked like, y'all you did a video.
Speaker 1: But when I investigated, it look like that me and
Speaker 1: Big was steal in the hood, fucking with each other.
Speaker 1: That's the people. Don't rob him, that's what we need.
Speaker 1: And all of them, you know, they all know that.
Speaker 1: They know it's to this day bang season all me like, Yo,
Speaker 1: Tech that nigga Big really loved you, and it was
Speaker 1: the feeling was mutual friend be addressed. The situation wasn't
Speaker 1: because I think you used about explaining it. Did y'all
Speaker 1: they getting money record? No? No, the record was the
Speaker 1: o GC record, and it's like, that's not that's our
Speaker 1: little brothers. So you know they told you that Big
Speaker 1: herd this hook. I don't I don't know how he
Speaker 1: got to how did they start taking personal with the
Speaker 1: Why like I said, it was a lack of communication
Speaker 1: that was there. The video was mad. Nobody until that
Speaker 1: day came up when it was happening and we got
Speaker 1: the call I was on. I was in the same studio.
Speaker 1: Now you told him about Big, like your call tech
Speaker 1: to the phone. They call me and Big is on
Speaker 1: the phone like a TEMs on my hands. I'm like,
Speaker 1: your Big, We ain't never it was supposed to kick
Speaker 1: this as man and man and dude like, yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: but look who were at Now that's why down let
Speaker 1: me say, let me this is this is just my opinion.
Speaker 1: I could be super fucking wrong with this one, right,
Speaker 1: Like you got these young kids that's on the label,
Speaker 1: right and when you get like you have the backing
Speaker 1: of these these industry people, like the industry knows that
Speaker 1: the bleeds it leads. They want you to have trauma.
Speaker 1: They think if they think, if we can show this image,
Speaker 1: it may look good for your for your for your
Speaker 1: track record. So you goddamn right that ship paid a
Speaker 1: part of it. These these kids wasn't going. You know,
Speaker 1: we got beef with Big. We want to set it
Speaker 1: with that was nobody was talking about that ship. It's
Speaker 1: like yeah. So it's like, okay, how can we uh
Speaker 1: this ship? So this is where the industry comes and
Speaker 1: it swoops down and take your babies. And they said, no,
Speaker 1: you can't even walk up the block because you you
Speaker 1: said a rat and all that. So that's where the
Speaker 1: miscommunication is at because we should have talked to the
Speaker 1: homie that wasn't. It was like none of us felt
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I mean. It's all of
Speaker 1: the hold on, hold on, hold on. This is what
Speaker 1: all the directors and the producers come in and they
Speaker 1: start giving a little two cents. They say, well, what
Speaker 1: if that's bringing this guy's bringing a look alike of
Speaker 1: of this guy, Let's bring in mont Jordan guy. Like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, we're not thinking, yo,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this in the video. And when we
Speaker 1: saw the video, when we saw it going down, I
Speaker 1: don't think nobody felt comfortable with I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 1: a queen's guy as a queen's guy, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest this is that's the worst thing that we
Speaker 1: did in our career. I was the biggest choice. I
Speaker 1: was the biggest super duck down. I was the biggest happen.
Speaker 1: Like you know, I had fights for y'all in jail.
Speaker 1: I just you know, like I had fights for y'all.
Speaker 1: Like niggas was like, yo, what some things are? I'm like, what,
Speaker 1: I fights real fights, And when I see the big
Speaker 1: like you know, like video was just done? Does that?
Speaker 1: Because like, and I'm a queen's nigger and I only
Speaker 1: fought for y'all. It's a big that's it in jail
Speaker 1: and I fought for older And then when y'all started beefing,
Speaker 1: I was like, Damn, I didn't. I didn't understand it
Speaker 1: makes sense that wasn't It wasn't no, it was nothing.
Speaker 1: So part of the reason why I'm asking ain't even
Speaker 1: ain't even a journalist, fake man, yo, you know, want
Speaker 1: to know for yourself. I don't even I don't know where.
Speaker 1: You don't know about bee. It's never been wins. We
Speaker 1: need say the communication. Hold on, Hold on hold, you're
Speaker 1: live on the podcast, nigga. We got eight million people listening.
Speaker 1: Save what's up? Brother? Yo? What up? What up? What's up?
Speaker 1: It's my brother? Do not excuse me? No, you wanta edit?
Speaker 1: You wanta editing? Yo? People know I love you, my brother,
Speaker 1: Yo Yo, nigga, I've been writing you since she was
Speaker 1: eight years old in the pen. He was eight years old.
Speaker 1: I don't used to go damn righting you God damn
Speaker 1: and you still you ustill got the iPhones ephones got
Speaker 1: damn it, God damn. This makes much. I love your nigga.
Speaker 1: This hold Ship got shot Judd little section, Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, yo yo yo. You know we love your nigga.
Speaker 1: When you come home, you're good. We're gonna get you
Speaker 1: an executive job. You're okay, that's doing time like that,
Speaker 1: yo yo yo, rich rich rich, Come on, come on, sir,
Speaker 1: come on, hold on, hold on. The camera's not on you. Relax,
Speaker 1: Let's get them. Let's get them now. The camera's on you.
Speaker 1: Look at that. You got them. You gotta he's home.
Speaker 1: Look look, bitches, you gotta give me your pussy some musy,
Speaker 1: come on your pussy. That's my nigga. That's my nigga. Room.
Speaker 1: I grew up with him. Mr. Up raised me. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's box and now oh I
Speaker 1: haven't seen woo oh Ship and your wife texts you together. Yeah, listen, listen,
Speaker 1: so you got a little but listen The bottom line
Speaker 1: of the story is this that don't say the relationship.
Speaker 1: It couldn't because embled people on the other side from Browns.
Speaker 1: The MLP was the thing from the hill. Everybody else right,
Speaker 1: Rich it was Brooklyn listen on a little till sun, Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: because you have a Brooklyn Nick. So you just one
Speaker 1: of the worst things you ever did was that, you
Speaker 1: know what that was? You said that. Why do you
Speaker 1: feel like it was one of the worst things you
Speaker 1: did because you felt like you're gonna let it go.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was. It was. I think we
Speaker 1: should as as as for me, like I look at
Speaker 1: my little homies and I'm like, all right, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ride with my little homies. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And you can give done with so much information. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to accident deep at that. What did your little
Speaker 1: homies tell? What did they say? It's there, it's there,
Speaker 1: This is their project, this is their thing. I can't
Speaker 1: felt like big heard their ship and bid it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean I would just say this. They expressed some
Speaker 1: dissatisfaction with that this is being their first time out.
Speaker 1: You know, this is their thing. They want to come
Speaker 1: out and want to you know, they want to make
Speaker 1: a little splash, So if they hear somebody performing the
Speaker 1: song that they know they just finished creating in the studio,
Speaker 1: you know obviously didn't want to be a little bit
Speaker 1: uncomfortable about that, because that's exactly how I heard. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying as an industry perposon, I don't know if
Speaker 1: these guys heard the song there, but you already know
Speaker 1: Dand was a hub man. Everybody was anybody on. Everybody
Speaker 1: was in different sessions, different people's sessions. How I heard
Speaker 1: it was somebody said Big walked into one of your sessions.
Speaker 1: They heard it. He heard the record, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden he had Easy LP, who was also
Speaker 1: my producer, and pull it up. And I almost want
Speaker 1: to say I asked Easy Lp that he said, it's
Speaker 1: exactly how because he was he was almost it was.
Speaker 1: It was that almost to a point where this was
Speaker 1: dug in under the controls booths. So that's how it
Speaker 1: was going down like that. But it didn't escalate to
Speaker 1: that because at that moment it was like, ye let
Speaker 1: me talk to it, let me talk to So did
Speaker 1: y'all actually work out the beat before he died? I
Speaker 1: think I like to think that. Yeah, I like that,
Speaker 1: that last little phone call. Yeah, because if it's times that,
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm from the stock, so I would
Speaker 1: be right there on the block and New York from
Speaker 1: the stop right. So it was when Big was out
Speaker 1: of town and men season on with me right there,
Speaker 1: Big cooler like yo, Tack. It was like your work,
Speaker 1: like I'm meeting the families of all of them, and
Speaker 1: Will were not like yeah, like I know what, I
Speaker 1: know what what could happen, What's gonna happen? But I'm
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's still there with
Speaker 1: our relationship as far as me and Big relationship is cool,
Speaker 1: and me and my family relationship is still cool. But
Speaker 1: like I said, it was, it was it felt like
Speaker 1: it fucked up Brooklyn because it was Brooklyn niggas going
Speaker 1: against other Brooklyn niggas. It was stop and it was
Speaker 1: there's always a beat between the veil and the stop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why you got the Mike Tyson tattoo. You wanted
Speaker 1: to tell like together now, this is just this is
Speaker 1: just my warriors ship. This is is my warriorship. Like
Speaker 1: you ever seen Preda to him once, that's not Tyson
Speaker 1: brother ship. I was not. You have to say, like
Speaker 1: it's Tyson esque. But now is this sort of like
Speaker 1: maybe like a you know, like you said, we're gonna
Speaker 1: the game. Never said to Tyson like I used to
Speaker 1: bump into Mike, like when I was a real, real
Speaker 1: little nigga where he was shut down the stores on
Speaker 1: Belmont going and everybody get a v goose bomb or leather. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the only time I was bump into Tyson
Speaker 1: and he'd be like, yeah, yeah, a little nigga is
Speaker 1: like he was he was because I always now always
Speaker 1: was told I had the Tyson voice. That's what That's
Speaker 1: where I never e to just used to be because
Speaker 1: I used to. That's why I was security. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but what was it? What was we talking about?
Speaker 1: The actual first time I bumped into Tyson was when
Speaker 1: I used to train and Um and Martha's golfy boxing gym.
Speaker 1: Tyson and Riddick Bowl used to come through there. We
Speaker 1: had the champion, Mark Brelan Um Sweetie used to come
Speaker 1: through there and I met Tyson and this is way,
Speaker 1: this is right before, right during the time he was
Speaker 1: training in the cat skills. So let me ask thank
Speaker 1: you so much relax, relaxing. You take one of these
Speaker 1: much that's very like it's your birthday, right shot. Ever,
Speaker 1: we still have a book you got make life right
Speaker 1: here in New Life, and he's still gone. Gentlemen, cheers,
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Speaker 1: Then I sing some two much the north Way he's
Speaker 1: doing right here, that thing up take a poll happy thing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like correct, you need to talk. Let the
Speaker 1: talk you about set for one second. Hold up, we
Speaker 1: spoke about big you gotta talk about to put an
Speaker 1: y you talk about sucking Mike away speak. He keeps saying,
Speaker 1: yeah you you No, I can't tell you, please guy,
Speaker 1: all my side safe teemsto which one I'm saying that
Speaker 1: like I'm just watching shuk things that came close. Okay
Speaker 1: yo yo yo know me. Well, let me ask a questions.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying going, just going I was because you're
Speaker 1: gonna do it here. It's okay, I'm gonna get him. Hey,
Speaker 1: ever you did that show once, I'll howl tonight that's
Speaker 1: hot on. I'm okay. You gotta didn't ask the question
Speaker 1: what you gotta How did you gotta do? When what
Speaker 1: he was on the hot wind wings? Yeah, and after
Speaker 1: every wing they were taking shots too quick. See um. Now,
Speaker 1: the thing about it was the thing about it was
Speaker 1: I watched hot Hot ones for two years straight, so
Speaker 1: I knew exactly what it was gonna do when it
Speaker 1: was gonna do it. So I tried to bring tager
Speaker 1: bone to offset it, but I was wrong about that
Speaker 1: only made it work. And the highest high Scoville was
Speaker 1: like you you know, when we was in Miami, I
Speaker 1: told him I putting norry onto the tagle box. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He did tell me that it's at that's not a lot.
Speaker 1: Put me on that's at story and I mean jus
Speaker 1: for life. We was going to Judien's for life, and
Speaker 1: you know he was coming through your right and listen,
Speaker 1: I know where you're going. You're right. But the problem
Speaker 1: was I was from Hunt Madison. That's what I'm saying. No, No,
Speaker 1: that like the problem. That's just like you too, my
Speaker 1: d the twenty four in Madison. But I stually drinking
Speaker 1: tyg of mom around the corner for a hundred twenty.
Speaker 1: You're talking about around around the corner side I already drinking.
Speaker 1: But you're right. You did tell me you did. You're right,
Speaker 1: you did tell me. You know you funk with this,
Speaker 1: But I had a ready he was used to it.
Speaker 1: But I never I never said I've been funking with
Speaker 1: something different times. Because you want, man, this credit, yea,
Speaker 1: get it to mend. Yeah, yeah, my explanations remember that
Speaker 1: it was. It was just bring back yard. He had
Speaker 1: the Newport piece on it. Yeah, what the yeah? And
Speaker 1: you was about trade and change its drink this ship. Man,
Speaker 1: he's not lying. It's not lying now at one point
Speaker 1: it's a lie. He's not like night. But now let's
Speaker 1: go back. Let's go back to Sean Price White nonsense.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait a minute, we're gonna go serious right now.
Speaker 1: We're going serious right now, So Sean other than smoking cigarettes,
Speaker 1: we don't know why it's Sean. Come on, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: he says, but I don't know why Sean are going
Speaker 1: to either. But there's nobody here answer this question. We'll
Speaker 1: tell you that Sean sfort wait um sleep apnea and
Speaker 1: I want to sleep at sleep apnea is when you
Speaker 1: snore and your heart stop stop. Yeah, while you're sleep sleeping.
Speaker 1: I who want to splause? I think all of us
Speaker 1: have sleep his life, I've had it and I never
Speaker 1: I mean maybe not everybody, but a lot of talking
Speaker 1: about it. You know, I talked about it back. I
Speaker 1: talked about it because like it was one day. I
Speaker 1: was just talking the punch and the punches. That's was notcleptic.
Speaker 1: That's not coleptic, which is different. That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: The too think that I believe I have. I can
Speaker 1: say it because you it's when your heart stops beating
Speaker 1: for thirties time. Yeah, it can't kill you. There's three stages.
Speaker 1: So what you don't know I'm talking about saying it
Speaker 1: talks into the brain that's set me basically, yeah, tells
Speaker 1: me to relax. There's two shows. You got Watermaz White.
Speaker 1: Let's know, I came from tin backwards her talk that
Speaker 1: since five four. I'm that's okay what you do and
Speaker 1: you're with me absolutely that I feel like they say
Speaker 1: it what toning like that right there? I'm gonna say this, man,
Speaker 1: when when Sean passed, I know, he was the first
Speaker 1: person to call that I talked to, like right after
Speaker 1: you write, like immediately, I was so hurt. She's one
Speaker 1: of the first ones. And I was so hurt. And
Speaker 1: let me tell you something about let me tell you
Speaker 1: something about Sean Price. I get cut the time I
Speaker 1: met Sean Price. I no, he was. I definitely did.
Speaker 1: But then he gave me a certain amount of love
Speaker 1: and he just he had hit me and he was
Speaker 1: like nigging like you're funny, you would he would swim.
Speaker 1: I was relationship slim Lloyd. He called all the motherfucker's
Speaker 1: slim Lloyd has a whole new meaning. And I will
Speaker 1: explain that after the album driving So he hit me
Speaker 1: and I was just like, damn, and I love this
Speaker 1: nigga so much, but I wanted to spread it to
Speaker 1: the industry because I knew that he would suffering the
Speaker 1: same thing that I was suffering. During the CNN as
Speaker 1: far creation you mean, I just felt like like listen, listen,
Speaker 1: and he's right here. I'm glad. I'm glad he's right here.
Speaker 1: I remember sample something called don't let It come to
Speaker 1: Your head brand brand new. I had sampled it on
Speaker 1: the War We've called album. That poem came to the
Speaker 1: studio and set, that's hard. It's like I'm laying verse
Speaker 1: right now. Trash came to studio and said that's whack.
Speaker 1: Poem said, it's right, it's why. Yeah. I could be no,
Speaker 1: but he was right. Trash was right. Was soon No,
Speaker 1: he was right there. It didn't fit with the war
Speaker 1: because ba his word, his wording was wrong, right, and
Speaker 1: said look when he expressed it, he could have said
Speaker 1: it don't fit what you're not doing at the moment, right,
Speaker 1: but he didn't. He just said it was whack. And
Speaker 1: then when poem came, poem said whatever, Trash sets and
Speaker 1: it was like alright, cool, alright, cool, that's to what
Speaker 1: would lead me to I gotta go. So once he
Speaker 1: go to jail, I knew he was ready to. I
Speaker 1: knew he was look for the record. Look, look we
Speaker 1: want to go back. I want to stay in front
Speaker 1: of we're talking. No, I'm not no, no, we are
Speaker 1: Look at one time, look at one time system, At
Speaker 1: one time I heard stop talking to about at one
Speaker 1: time I heard trag world chap verse for uh right
Speaker 1: to one he spent in your down money. Try let
Speaker 1: me tell you something that's got knock, shut up, start off,
Speaker 1: let me tell you. Let me tell you that was
Speaker 1: hold on. We can't. Were not talking about tragedy because
Speaker 1: hold no cool with him. No nobody an about about damn.
Speaker 1: You don't keep it a dah. Hold hold on, hold
Speaker 1: one thing about Norway that people always got died there
Speaker 1: like somebody wrote this same time. They might have done
Speaker 1: about you. Just never I can it's not right for that.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, staying got
Speaker 1: that I don't know. But listen, I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: even father to write some ship that he writes like
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't even begin to think about you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That ship is not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: So I'm never gonna think that I ever wrote trag
Speaker 1: ever wrote or he wrote some ship from me. He
Speaker 1: can't rap like me. I can't rap like him. That's
Speaker 1: what makes us special. Like it's certain groups like I'm
Speaker 1: not taking nothing away from kiss and and the locks
Speaker 1: and and just the chemistry him and styles put. But
Speaker 1: you can put a book down sometimes and say I
Speaker 1: don't know what funk? Who wrote it, it sounds the same,
Speaker 1: like it's no differential. But that don't take nothing away
Speaker 1: from the styles and Jada. But with men this nigga,
Speaker 1: come on, that's not gonna happen like for I'm never
Speaker 1: gonna think that. Gonna think that, but it's not that,
Speaker 1: it's not that's the talk. Let me just let me.
Speaker 1: Let me say, I'm gonna get ship. That's how that
Speaker 1: rooman started. When this album came up, the war reports,
Speaker 1: I had no idea what publishing. So when I signed
Speaker 1: for five thousand dollars, both signed five flax, not you,
Speaker 1: I got you little got going sing everyway everywher, four week,
Speaker 1: every Browns. Before a week I was going to separate
Speaker 1: the back, Azy called me magazine dollars do you have?
Speaker 1: That's being in the group. You're gonna do you ever
Speaker 1: get you that for you to be like, I can't
Speaker 1: say ship, just talk every day every day scared here listen,
Speaker 1: that's here's what happened, And here's what happened. Me and
Speaker 1: this thing. This nigger had a deal already when before
Speaker 1: reported I'm not I'm in jail still he me and
Speaker 1: him at each other in jail, right, So when I
Speaker 1: came home. He said, fuck it, let's do it together.
Speaker 1: We did it together. Like, what are you doing? That's
Speaker 1: going on? Old me? So what happened is this? I
Speaker 1: had nothing, I had nothing to go. I don't know
Speaker 1: what I like. But tragic stole off. He didn't tell
Speaker 1: us that's what. But already knew trash. Hood say trash. Wait, Gloria,
Speaker 1: say trash before. Listen trash every time we got t
Speaker 1: hollars for events. I'm learning. Wait wait wait wait wait
Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
Speaker 1: whoa wait? Did you know trag before? Of course you
Speaker 1: know life. Okay, let me let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: The reason why we even got in a situation was
Speaker 1: because of me. I was a norf. I was getting money.
Speaker 1: My man wonderful, was trying to wrap. He sucked. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna nick this in the boat. He sucked. He was
Speaker 1: one of them, fuck you bitch ass niggers. Motherfucker. I
Speaker 1: changed the mother your motherfucking serio. He was wond he
Speaker 1: was dope. He thought he was dope, but he had
Speaker 1: that guapo Lena. I was hustling with him. He said, yo, poem,
Speaker 1: I'm going to the studio. I said, word but mine
Speaker 1: new leaders in Troy, New yok. So he gets to
Speaker 1: the studio, so rest in peace, jam Mr Jay, then
Speaker 1: Joe Felony, everybody you know listen to New York. This
Speaker 1: is listen. This is the same studio with jam Mster
Speaker 1: Jake got killed that. So jam Mr Ja like, um,
Speaker 1: trash like, oh my man wonderful like yo, my man said,
Speaker 1: jam Master Jay like Yo, trash like, Yo, my man
Speaker 1: wonderful like yo. I funk with capone So trash like,
Speaker 1: oh I know caymn he for the hoody buzz is
Speaker 1: gun whateverever. So my man wonderful like yeah, yeah here
Speaker 1: on top of me. So he put me in trash
Speaker 1: on the phone. I'm gonna lift the center, but real quick,
Speaker 1: trash close me, Yo, what do you do? I'm up
Speaker 1: norf I'm getting money? Who come down? I said, I
Speaker 1: fuck it, I can't do it. Maybe can whatever? I
Speaker 1: call them crackhead. Crackhead brings me down. I get to
Speaker 1: the studio. We all freestyled me. Jail fellone, trash jail Ja,
Speaker 1: jail Mster Jay doing the cuts. He's doing the cuts
Speaker 1: in the move. So I'm trash like I don't even
Speaker 1: know your round. I'm like, I didn't knock around like
Speaker 1: put enough for you to see, Like I don't know.
Speaker 1: So hey, sorry, short trash, Like, yo, I want to
Speaker 1: funk with you. I'm like, I bet he, like, you
Speaker 1: gotta stop selling drugs. That's not gonna happen. You give
Speaker 1: me something, well, I can have someelling drugs and that's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. So a few weeks, a few months after that,
Speaker 1: this nigger comes home trash and something drugs. I said,
Speaker 1: that's what you get me something? Who I can stop
Speaker 1: some of the drugs, so then you don't bring nothing
Speaker 1: to the table then, and and all that process. I'm
Speaker 1: skipped a whole way. I'm gonna skip to man him
Speaker 1: because you know, I meant Faith Newman. You know signed
Speaker 1: Eves who signed the food. Jeez, we're living with her.
Speaker 1: She got the house in Midtown with the pool and
Speaker 1: the basement and all we'd be doing it up. So
Speaker 1: now he comes home now, Faith, like I got you
Speaker 1: to deal with with with Columbia, just chill is me
Speaker 1: and um and uh my man big l Man big
Speaker 1: l at the same time we roll dog in. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, alright, Ben, She's like, I'm gonna get you
Speaker 1: a big Al tight so man, Big Hel like yeah,
Speaker 1: we god big so. So now we're like, yeah we
Speaker 1: get nigga. So me and big Al like we roll
Speaker 1: and we rolled dogs. We're like, yo, nigga, we we
Speaker 1: got a faith Norman got us and we're fucking with
Speaker 1: butt naked tin dog. This is not to the town
Speaker 1: to come on this butt naked tend to funk with
Speaker 1: Joe to see and last boys ain't got them. That
Speaker 1: what they said, y'all suiting them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So now they're like, oh, ship, they like my ship, right,
Speaker 1: So I do a song called get the Cream, so
Speaker 1: it's get the Cream. It's only right. So now they're like,
Speaker 1: we got ahead, my dumbass. I let Elias Harry that
Speaker 1: funk with nice from my projects. He gives it d
Speaker 1: Hazy Hazy makes shoot ship. I'm like, because I want
Speaker 1: to shoot at the time, still thing like he's not
Speaker 1: a rapper, he's a shooter. So now we're going to studio.
Speaker 1: So now we're going to the studio. So we're like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna come up with another record. Like so I'm
Speaker 1: like a fucking whatever, make a long story short. This
Speaker 1: navy comes home. So now I'm telling trash like, you're
Speaker 1: fucking my man is home. But mind you, we're out
Speaker 1: on the lamp ship. We're just in the studio. He
Speaker 1: comes to my session. We're in my session, and I'm
Speaker 1: he's like, yo, you know, I get busy, right, I'm
Speaker 1: like what He's like, I let it. Let's go rocket there.
Speaker 1: That's my brother. That's what we let me go around.
Speaker 1: Were never around together, but I skipped the point. I
Speaker 1: took the same together. I took him shopping for the
Speaker 1: man time to n't figure ship. Definitely don't remember that part.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta stand up. That's when niggas got
Speaker 1: droned and niggas got thrown in the pool when you
Speaker 1: was he shodow when he came through the house that
Speaker 1: you was in together. Yeah yeah, yeah. So I'm look, look,
Speaker 1: look I'm going back. So now, so we're in the studio,
Speaker 1: so now I'm like, fucking, let's do so together. This
Speaker 1: was our first song, Pandama Canal My team puts keystro
Speaker 1: Padama pussing out, Pistol Simp Chris Stas. That's why Jaden
Speaker 1: Jade with Jade s has that record. I don't even
Speaker 1: know how you got that. I don't even know. Jada
Speaker 1: stepped us like my team puss keys through them. I'm
Speaker 1: like that America, we're gonna skip, We're gonna skip over.
Speaker 1: So now trays like yo yah. Nickas is like like
Speaker 1: like brought and toast your night and day. So we're
Speaker 1: like we're gonna do it together. And then from there
Speaker 1: we signed our Solder the Devil. You did trash and
Speaker 1: then we didn't stretch. Stretch, I'm strong made us. L
Speaker 1: A l A don't want to use it. She stretch.
Speaker 1: We're doing ourselves. He went to his father and got
Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars, shot the video and put the record
Speaker 1: out of itself and you know what, his father. But
Speaker 1: that's what made us and traged. We got to deal
Speaker 1: and tried to go off for the party. You say that,
Speaker 1: say that L l A came out. Cash was mad
Speaker 1: at me. I was on hot at the time. It
Speaker 1: was like, yo, you know what I'm saying. Yo, the
Speaker 1: Knicks had to pay you on to the table or something.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, this is a good record. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: was a good record. And that's one thing I will say, like,
Speaker 1: because he was playing it, they thought, yeah, because I
Speaker 1: was playing a lot. I think the first time I
Speaker 1: got I played it twice on the show New York
Speaker 1: was being played. But yeah, I took I took New York,
Speaker 1: New York off. And that's what I'm playing in L
Speaker 1: A l A because I'm New York and you know
Speaker 1: one thing about me, like I represent I represent New York.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't have nothing against nobody, but you didn't.
Speaker 1: It was at the time, West coast. It was quietly.
Speaker 1: It was East coast, West coast people. It was just
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't really just enough when we didn't Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can't tell or didn't know, so we just see that.
Speaker 1: Remember that. Absolutely, That's that's what it was. That's the
Speaker 1: only reason why Prodigy took its first off. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you don't, I'm not dissing nobody. When you said, n
Speaker 1: y C you want to birth Supremecy so seen to
Speaker 1: be mega, I got word back from Noria I left
Speaker 1: that I got. That's why didn't he take it? Verst
Speaker 1: that's the person nice playing I got. Let me know
Speaker 1: why I didn't take it verse off. Yeah, let me
Speaker 1: trying wait wait for a second, you go now, let
Speaker 1: me talking about Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're all chance.
Speaker 1: So what happened? All we got what are you drinking?
Speaker 1: So you happen was after every verse that we spc
Speaker 1: he was the only verse that actually felt like it
Speaker 1: went at l A. Now I was the only verse
Speaker 1: that actually went to l A. It didn't feel like
Speaker 1: it was. It was it was mixed down to set
Speaker 1: the party. You l a story. We dinna take it,
Speaker 1: no guy. So last we said, we don't know. If
Speaker 1: they don't tell me, that's just respawn and let's just
Speaker 1: see what happens. You just keep them doing. This is
Speaker 1: before the buildings done that. The builders came after we
Speaker 1: drove the record. Hey man, they keep They kicked the
Speaker 1: builders over to be man's actually skipping over two weeks,
Speaker 1: skipping over two weeks. It was different. What happened was
Speaker 1: they did they too actually were lying hold hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on wait wait wait wat laying wait wait wait
Speaker 1: a minute, wait wait wait wait a minute, wait wait
Speaker 1: wait wait wait he said Smith and wasn't is on
Speaker 1: a New Center CNN album. Absolutely, here's what happened. When
Speaker 1: I say me lying, I mean this not lying though,
Speaker 1: no were lying lying. There was a something called the
Speaker 1: DJ list Biggs back in the days used to be
Speaker 1: on a DJ list and your album will come out
Speaker 1: two months in advance, absolutely, and depending on what DJ
Speaker 1: you fucked with, you would send the DJ this album
Speaker 1: too months prior to it coming out. The Door Pound
Speaker 1: dropped the album two months prior. I had a dude
Speaker 1: us from my hood. His name is Chas. I will
Speaker 1: never forget him. I love you, Chad Sex with don't
Speaker 1: got glass. He just wis, but you don't the Chass
Speaker 1: and Chazz came but to me and said yo, and
Speaker 1: he had a Panasonic radio. It was forty dollar supple time.
Speaker 1: That was the black ship. You put on the game
Speaker 1: and Chass in front of section to right right coach
Speaker 1: streeper stop one left for city ship. Because I'm a
Speaker 1: left right nigger to die che come on, so hold on,
Speaker 1: let me finish to Chats put the ship in the
Speaker 1: front of the joint and said Chat said your nas,
Speaker 1: But Chat was the dust had all right? It was
Speaker 1: this one. Why why do you think I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be funny? Chass from Section too for this one? Nigger?
Speaker 1: So Chass, you talk to me, just wait, wait, wait wait.
Speaker 1: I had to do it, bro. It was didn't belong
Speaker 1: some I need one of those in my career. So
Speaker 1: as you talk the jazz jazz, I'm listening to ya. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm listening to Jass to say to me, Chad is
Speaker 1: written to me. God damn it. Whoever these people are,
Speaker 1: they gotta go. So now this time Chadd says, Yo,
Speaker 1: did you hear the new dog Pound? Right? Chasses never
Speaker 1: took spoke to me about music before in his life.
Speaker 1: He always talked to me about other ships. He talked
Speaker 1: to me about sea saws. You know, I should take
Speaker 1: mescaline friends, I should take ship like that. Yo, I'm looking.
Speaker 1: I got you stay over my phone, so got you
Speaker 1: for from Japan. So I did that. I did. I
Speaker 1: started the brother, I said when Chads came back, because
Speaker 1: Chad was crazy the Chads one street and they came back.
Speaker 1: He said, I think them niggas is killing us. It's
Speaker 1: for the video or nothing. That that's the record. So
Speaker 1: I was like ship, but now mind you stretch all
Speaker 1: strong text, all of us. It's not a text and
Speaker 1: it is a two way correct, so we all mind you.
Speaker 1: Just I had just did what about I don't want
Speaker 1: I don't want them. I don't want to claim it.
Speaker 1: So whatever I did the Queensbridge, I didn't want to
Speaker 1: go back to Queensbridge, so I went back because they
Speaker 1: told me to come, so I went back. Then we
Speaker 1: went to stretch off stronger. So we're stilling boy throwing
Speaker 1: stretched man. So we're staying there for two hours. We
Speaker 1: went through that. We don't know what to do, so
Speaker 1: I said, you pull up the dog pound now, and
Speaker 1: they say why and I say because mondayga chash from
Speaker 1: section to the Panama building and I just Saidama, Panama
Speaker 1: had played me. He played me this record, and I
Speaker 1: distinguished it was just this or not. But when we inherited,
Speaker 1: everybody relax, who's that rob relaxed? So they said to me,
Speaker 1: are you sure it's at this? And we couldn't. I
Speaker 1: couldn't distinguish. It wasn't this coupone did this thing? Was
Speaker 1: this prodigy canting? Was this happy? This was this tragedy.
Speaker 1: It's five of us, right? Only you heard said that
Speaker 1: one hand? What's proud of you? What's prod of you?
Speaker 1: He said? Jfk on soon as soon the niggas kicked
Speaker 1: over the buildings and he told them was taking hold
Speaker 1: on shot in Brooklyn y'all shot a shot, shot up
Speaker 1: you bad guy. Your niggas left queens, the niggas from
Speaker 1: Brooklyn was like, bad guy, hold on, I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pass it off to you. You know. So when when
Speaker 1: when Prodig said or anybody says, we sent them niggas
Speaker 1: versus and we didn't want to deal do business with
Speaker 1: them and anybody person they're lives. Because no, it's true.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, my brother. I'm saying that yours
Speaker 1: my brothers here. But I'm putting this great better. But
Speaker 1: but I got you. But come on, come on, he says,
Speaker 1: people said something that's said equipment to we sent them
Speaker 1: their versus. Hell, that is a lie. First off, we
Speaker 1: wanted to kill him when he took the pot verse off,
Speaker 1: but all of us so back because the only person
Speaker 1: pocket with this was him. This is all brother right here.
Speaker 1: We never we never did that. The whole ship was manipulated.
Speaker 1: What's your part? Like you? Because he definitely don't make sense,
Speaker 1: but I like, what what what are you telling about?
Speaker 1: Was manipulated the whole track. Look, look, the whole track
Speaker 1: is manipulate. We didn't get what was supposed to happen
Speaker 1: at your reality. We got the original, no way. He
Speaker 1: explained that some versions out there we got I got,
Speaker 1: I got the one talking about this yo. I FaceTime
Speaker 1: Glory last week about it and he looked at the
Speaker 1: screen and turned around and I didn't hear from them again.
Speaker 1: But anyway, listening this one with the dog poumpy, which
Speaker 1: is the lit y'all remade the dog pump because clear
Speaker 1: I got that. There is a Molly I second one.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not talking about three versions of the beat.
Speaker 1: What we're talking about, no less bring it up versions
Speaker 1: one because came out on one because Prodigy was the
Speaker 1: only one took his verse all and guess what it was,
Speaker 1: pooto right, because he knows not it was. It was
Speaker 1: the only one that Park went that. If you think
Speaker 1: about it, Park never said he didn't want that sho
Speaker 1: he was when that shot back Google and you know
Speaker 1: we don't close that door. You know when Google box
Speaker 1: said fuck bone or no yet never remember it doesn't exist,
Speaker 1: and then think about it. Even if he wanted to
Speaker 1: say us, he said, mom did and a mother niggas.
Speaker 1: I think your fist you could have been another niggas,
Speaker 1: But so what you say that's time. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: this and I'm out. I'm not. I'm a chill right here.
Speaker 1: But yo, Vibe Magazine did that whole ship bro East
Speaker 1: West Coast. They created that. No, that would never never happened.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, let me tell you something
Speaker 1: that was. That's that's what a Vibe magazine like. So
Speaker 1: ruin Ever though it was a get him and they killed.
Speaker 1: That was the fall of Vibe Magazine as a print
Speaker 1: because you gotta you gotta realize right when you that
Speaker 1: right now, that ship brought federal investigations. That ship brought indictments.
Speaker 1: That ship brother cool whatever cure. That's Coachurabo. That dumb
Speaker 1: they go and died with that dumb YEA magazine never
Speaker 1: been to say he has a new he's gone pretty much.
Speaker 1: You're gonna got leave to that. He've been drinking, tagging
Speaker 1: bony time drew. It's a bunch of mount like mushrooms.
Speaker 1: If you have a good like a bunch of black
Speaker 1: man speak big drinking. Let him say right there, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm seeing? You are you shot? He cannot
Speaker 1: make a chance. Seat with static, you better not she
Speaker 1: with statics, really static, hold on static you better not.
Speaker 1: She seat with him. The fun is going to when
Speaker 1: he none to hold on, hold up, hold up too,
Speaker 1: He was not hold up once ever really come back swimming.
Speaker 1: Were going back to dat chap right now listen, you'll
Speaker 1: see any holy fun boys. So girl, he's all the
Speaker 1: flying player to the brother that he really can do whatever.
Speaker 1: My brother now please rely right now. Please, That's what friends,
Speaker 1: that's what happened. To come down, give me my brothers,
Speaker 1: my brothers, my brothers. He said, I'm yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have your person. Let me live, let me live, mother,
Speaker 1: my mother. Y'all were the last dudes that hung out
Speaker 1: with Park. Yes, tell us that like like the like
Speaker 1: recording as we're recording, brother, what do the microphone when
Speaker 1: you add your thousand microphone? Was my bast sham question,
Speaker 1: asked the boy to question. Yeah, I don't be a
Speaker 1: ducan and I am dunking the view right now. There
Speaker 1: you go, my brother. You know, I wish we had
Speaker 1: stuff like this back when album Listen to me and
Speaker 1: listen to me, everybody. If you've ever been at collecting, pull,
Speaker 1: let you stop. It looks pretty much like this. Stop
Speaker 1: like that. I'm not dogs like without Cuban being with Cuban.
Speaker 1: Let him go, he's Cuban beat What rock you just say?
Speaker 1: Oh he's cute, yo show he was on my album.
Speaker 1: Brother Pea, you gotta have thank you if you don't
Speaker 1: trust in God trusting everything? No, guy, what the fun
Speaker 1: you think? That's it? Just done? Draped the stuff? I'm
Speaker 1: watch price? No, No, we're talking about pop. Yes, Puck
Speaker 1: was mom? Thank you capone? Now you want mother fun?
Speaker 1: Jump off? Listen, real talk, real talk, not something I
Speaker 1: can fun with you? Real talk. One thing. Y'all were
Speaker 1: the last one of the last people to fun you
Speaker 1: with park. You can y'all stop with me? You too,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sunk with you. Hey, Buddy ro dumb buddy
Speaker 1: bro calling Buddy Rodn't crazy with chi? Get right at you?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, mother for with me here with me?
Speaker 1: I'm just asking, hey, with me, dare you didn't have
Speaker 1: to do that one brother? Let's how you have the same.
Speaker 1: I'm just that's why you as you were. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: You know man, that here doesn't help me. Man, really,
Speaker 1: but you can't. I know, I know, I know I
Speaker 1: know what I know. You Please respect us now? You
Speaker 1: want me to respect absolutely absolutely. I want your inspect
Speaker 1: Let's go, Let's go, let's go, let's go. We're talking
Speaker 1: about Park right now, Park and y know it, let's
Speaker 1: do it some about the relationship with Park and y'all
Speaker 1: see foods because what I mean for me, I don't.
Speaker 1: For me, I don't, I'm not when it comes to
Speaker 1: y'all will see a lot of slap. When it comes
Speaker 1: to interviews. I mean, I don't know. You don't check
Speaker 1: because y'all will see a lot of slab. Check check.
Speaker 1: Let me just say this, y'all will see a lot
Speaker 1: of slack. At one point, I said, buck, everybody, many
Speaker 1: police over what they're asking for? Yeah, call me, yes,
Speaker 1: two hours, bro, he said, call me in an hour.
Speaker 1: So y'all, yeah, hold on, you guys will see the
Speaker 1: lot of slap. Once pot what happened? Let me let me,
Speaker 1: let me describe the situation. Fox shooting on the East coast.
Speaker 1: Fox did it and the only people he claimed, what's you? Guys?
Speaker 1: He was like, swifts, my nigs. There must have been there,
Speaker 1: y'all done, but you know what happened? Explained that happened.
Speaker 1: That didn't know what happened was I don't know if
Speaker 1: they caught. What we were just talking about in the
Speaker 1: midst of the rock is but the Let's Play magazine
Speaker 1: and everything will happen because when we first got like
Speaker 1: you got Smith and Weston, we was We was not
Speaker 1: discredited in Black Moon or Ill, but we Smith and Weston.
Speaker 1: We was all street niggas were on streeting like I'm
Speaker 1: coming from the style, like I bring my motor bike
Speaker 1: up to the this one we was just killing ben
Speaker 1: four Green niggas was this was this one I was.
Speaker 1: I was in in four Green with resting ju Ju
Speaker 1: and niggas. This is I was trying. Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I was a younger who got the glocks when
Speaker 1: we came on, it was it was for me. For
Speaker 1: me coming from the stock, I can't I live in
Speaker 1: a brown Stone. On my brown stone, my family has
Speaker 1: generations in the Brownston. So coming from the stole to
Speaker 1: the veil, going to the projects, you always gotta be
Speaker 1: gripped up. We're coming from We're coming from. I'm coming
Speaker 1: from a tree line block. If I'm on a motorbike
Speaker 1: or a pedal bike, I'm coming up the hill to
Speaker 1: see my brother Big up the shot Town Chicago, coming
Speaker 1: to see mountain. We got killer better in this over here.
Speaker 1: We're coming and I'm coming. Were like, son, what's happening?
Speaker 1: So when I get to the villa, it's like a
Speaker 1: change of weather coming because I'm leaving the stop. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get from my hood to experience something different.
Speaker 1: So when I leave the stot and get to the building,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, son, your man over it is. We
Speaker 1: got it's about to go crazy. We got everything. We
Speaker 1: got this building that it's only we got four builders
Speaker 1: and seth flow projects. You know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: got niggas in all the buildings. But when he come
Speaker 1: through as a best stock cat, they ain't ever seen
Speaker 1: the best stock cat. He got love, he got, well
Speaker 1: he's coming doing the dirt bikes with no himing or
Speaker 1: she got gets your ripped off and everything he coming
Speaker 1: to like like that's your man, Like yeah, how you
Speaker 1: know saying we like from up there hill, we like
Speaker 1: from up the hill, you know. But so we're proud
Speaker 1: talking about up the hill, down the hill. That's the same. No, no,
Speaker 1: because MP is from the ville. So they're talking about
Speaker 1: up the hill fill and downhill in the field. When
Speaker 1: I say down to him, I'm talking about cross Atlantic
Speaker 1: to the style like yeah you with fat school, we're
Speaker 1: talking about right now when y'all give us all that,
Speaker 1: but give us the park side. This the park side, Tupac.
Speaker 1: We that's what side. I'm like, tart side with a
Speaker 1: lot of people, A lot of people happened with a
Speaker 1: lot of people with a lot of people. Um they
Speaker 1: leave out in his tupoc. My animation is, um the
Speaker 1: outlaws Like outlaws is from Jersey. It's from Jersey. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, well we say that all
Speaker 1: of them is from Jersey, and we write and if
Speaker 1: you and if you ever if you're a New York
Speaker 1: you've ever been in New or if you ever been
Speaker 1: a trending you ever stepping them dirty swamps, you already
Speaker 1: know what it is. So where we you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, dudes get money out there and you
Speaker 1: know you got you got family members out there, So
Speaker 1: I think they spawned the whole thing. And then you know,
Speaker 1: when Tech put that that real kite out two dudes,
Speaker 1: you know it was so real, Like I don't think
Speaker 1: motherfuckering understand what we talked about when you said that kite,
Speaker 1: When Pot got that letter from here, I think, because
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm the one that brought that
Speaker 1: kite up, like like like I'm the one that recognized
Speaker 1: like flip it, flip it trading yea dream chance logan.
Speaker 1: But listen, like that kite was so real like and
Speaker 1: it was like not too many motherfucker's sent kites to
Speaker 1: pop and got responses back from Pock and for y'all
Speaker 1: to be one of the few people who had correspondence
Speaker 1: with independ like that ship. What I want to know
Speaker 1: is when he came out and he was on his
Speaker 1: like street like funck, bad Boy, funck, this nigga funk
Speaker 1: that nigga ship. You didn't give me a chance come
Speaker 1: out there. Relax, Relax, Relax, Relax, relax, relax. When he
Speaker 1: came out, did he ever say y'all my brothers, y'all
Speaker 1: legs in nah so y'all. So when he when it
Speaker 1: was fun bad boy, he said bad boy and did
Speaker 1: a record with him at the same time, conversations whenever
Speaker 1: you're just you just ain't get between CNN right. This
Speaker 1: is what absolutely let me out of his face. At
Speaker 1: the same time when he said fuck New York. He
Speaker 1: actually had a record of Smith Voice. That's because it
Speaker 1: wasn't just a record that he was trying to do
Speaker 1: with Smith and West New York. It was an album
Speaker 1: that was in projects that it was a one nation project.
Speaker 1: It was a one nation project. It wasn't just as
Speaker 1: it was bug. It was it was Greg nice wait
Speaker 1: wait right, wait wait wait, question all that your kids
Speaker 1: wasn't got here. It was never screaming because we were
Speaker 1: We was in the crib at the height when it
Speaker 1: was supposed to be the East Coast West Coast battle
Speaker 1: like niggas would come up from death row and drop
Speaker 1: literally paper bag money on the tail and be like, yo, Sunset,
Speaker 1: meet him here, and meet him here, and meet him here.
Speaker 1: We get to the airport and probably be like, yo,
Speaker 1: we ain't all on the same plane. Ripped the tickets
Speaker 1: that get the funk out of here? Did he bop
Speaker 1: right out of the airport? We ain't going. So it
Speaker 1: was never a time where he felt like he was
Speaker 1: bigger than us or he was more than us, where
Speaker 1: he would leave us behind because we would we would
Speaker 1: pull up into a gas station in l A and
Speaker 1: everybody be shrouding, and it ain't just be like yo,
Speaker 1: what the fun what's happen? Why pulling that nigga could
Speaker 1: be in a coma sleep just coming off the set
Speaker 1: of two movies. Shoot as the van stopped, he waking up.
Speaker 1: You know what's happening? When we at where we at,
Speaker 1: like we're just coming to get gas and they could
Speaker 1: do a quick three extep bank bank bank, all right, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's go. We can't stop here, But
Speaker 1: nobody understand why doesn'taken mentality is like that. But if
Speaker 1: you've been hit up five, six, seven, eight times and
Speaker 1: you automatically stopping it and they just saying, we just
Speaker 1: what I mean, we're getting gas? We don't get fucking yeah.
Speaker 1: We never stopped. Why we got Yeah, why all of
Speaker 1: a sudden we started to get gas? Supposed to get
Speaker 1: gas before you got so the mentality be different. But
Speaker 1: it was never when we was with Pop. It was
Speaker 1: never a fun New York for big the East Coast.
Speaker 1: It was never. But it was never during the time.
Speaker 1: There was like there was before I hit them all.
Speaker 1: It was actually a record where it was like uh no, no,
Speaker 1: that's no, yeah, that's prior to that, and it was
Speaker 1: it was a record uh uh you it was you guys,
Speaker 1: I think he was on it. Nah. Now it's like
Speaker 1: I couldn't have been a year with us because before
Speaker 1: before that we haven't even recorded with pop, right, but
Speaker 1: we only got it was red Man that record regular him.
Speaker 1: I got my mom made up made up. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: wasn't was it that was your record record? You know
Speaker 1: what the fucking crazy? What's the rumor is? I was
Speaker 1: on uh Hail Mary? That was me supposedly been doing
Speaker 1: the chorus on Hell Mary, No chill out. It would
Speaker 1: have been that. That was the room we was here
Speaker 1: be because music is so broad and the room was
Speaker 1: make a lot of the music and a lot of
Speaker 1: the artists, Like I remember when we first dropped, not
Speaker 1: to say it was a bunch of funny different people.
Speaker 1: Nigg has been getting robbed in the industry, but we
Speaker 1: didn't know about it because we wasn't in the industry.
Speaker 1: But when we got on the street, yeah we was
Speaker 1: robbing it. But when we got in the industry, I
Speaker 1: was able to go back, right when he was able
Speaker 1: to go back to the hood and tell niggas house
Speaker 1: other nig was and they was getting robbed, it was different.
Speaker 1: So when niggas was was was doing them type of records.
Speaker 1: He was like, no, that's not It wasn't understandable to
Speaker 1: to to the people outside, But we understood because we
Speaker 1: was the people that was making the records and bringing
Speaker 1: it back. Can I at your question, when when the
Speaker 1: whole absolutely when when when the whole Asian Jack and
Speaker 1: all that ship was going on, did you ever get
Speaker 1: caught up in the mixing? And then then we never
Speaker 1: got caught up in none of that. We never none
Speaker 1: of that. That was like, that was like real for
Speaker 1: Brooklyn because that was real for we are Brooklyn niggers. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. I'm not gonna say the names that was there,
Speaker 1: but we we those were niggas that was over us.
Speaker 1: We came up. We came up and gang like Decepticons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we came up, and I was we came up in
Speaker 1: niggas game popped in the stomach or popping niggas at
Speaker 1: fifty nine shoot train stations. See a nigger on the
Speaker 1: on the steps with a three fifty seven hole in
Speaker 1: the stomach even hard like a nigg can't breathe. And
Speaker 1: when a nigga said you your waves ain't better than mine,
Speaker 1: I got a touch of that in his mouth, just
Speaker 1: to prove to him. You know, I'm not a printing
Speaker 1: at all nigger Like my son was wrong. I wasn't
Speaker 1: at the rapper. He was the rapper. Anything that he did,
Speaker 1: I was riding with him. That's what Sun. You can't
Speaker 1: touch him, you can't do nothing to him. He was
Speaker 1: also he was also like a stunt guy. What the
Speaker 1: fun is that? YO? Do? Ship that nobody? I looked
Speaker 1: like my body matrix was built. Different matrix, different ship
Speaker 1: like I would for me, I would hide at the
Speaker 1: rolling cars and me like called like little brother, Yeah
Speaker 1: we're in the tournal guard to Jersey. Oh you that guy?
Speaker 1: All right? Not we I don't have about the car
Speaker 1: ros window shot like YO had a shot that times
Speaker 1: a movie to a not a video around shot. Look,
Speaker 1: let went through the PREJD. For me, I was how
Speaker 1: was the sea? That was a game? I was Look,
Speaker 1: look what our hero. Because we all grew up in
Speaker 1: the tunnel we were going. I would come through my wildness.
Speaker 1: I had some funny. Let me let me try make us,
Speaker 1: Let me let me just eNTRI Let me just tell
Speaker 1: you what run down for the tun of was just
Speaker 1: coming from Brooklyn to go to the tunnel. Every Sunday night.
Speaker 1: First of all, if you didn't leave with a bitch
Speaker 1: to fuck Sunday night, so it was wrong with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, So from Brooklyn, this is what we been doing. Boom,
Speaker 1: wake up, hit the gym, workout, boom, get a swollen boom,
Speaker 1: boom the gym. We go to the barbershop. Line fresh
Speaker 1: crisp from the barbershop. We're shooting uptown. One. I would
Speaker 1: seeing when we would see Moga Brassie selling T shirts
Speaker 1: and they can even buy a solo vascos, some Tim's
Speaker 1: or some Iceberg right into Iceberg, see my nigger. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's up? So? Oh something? We got the new shoopy.
Speaker 1: Now I don't want to shop? Yeah, I don't want
Speaker 1: to Oh we got this boom? I right, match me up.
Speaker 1: We go, I get the outfit from one five. By
Speaker 1: the time we even getting nothing to chop up or
Speaker 1: do nothing. As long as we come out of the
Speaker 1: store from one police pulling the sofa, whoo whoop. As
Speaker 1: sure as we come out of one five police pulling
Speaker 1: us up. What y'all got? But we even got nothing.
Speaker 1: We weve in cotton. We came to get close. We
Speaker 1: came to get close. When the dome bags of haze
Speaker 1: was like that. Yeah, so I'm buying ten dim bags
Speaker 1: of hayes this when I was smoking, buying ten dimon
Speaker 1: bags of haye. Then we go into the other store
Speaker 1: in the corner on one five by another outfit from there,
Speaker 1: take it back to Brooklyn, start to see ole game
Speaker 1: went bout fifteen Hunting Park on the corner of Myrtle
Speaker 1: Win Clinton And then now we're going on seven eight
Speaker 1: to nine, ten o'clock. Get a bottle of handing some
Speaker 1: bottles and handing boom, boom boom. I think it's just
Speaker 1: coming out of the hood. Now you know what's up?
Speaker 1: What's up? You know what time of sunny is? Go
Speaker 1: to towne. Now we're rolling out four or five cards
Speaker 1: d to the tunnel. Then we get to the tunnel.
Speaker 1: As soon as we pull up board the Kabbo block,
Speaker 1: it's a line around the corner and it's like you
Speaker 1: know what, something pull up around this way. It used
Speaker 1: to be a partner lot. We had to go up
Speaker 1: the hill into the talk about I was driving the
Speaker 1: SC four hunt to put the pearl white up in
Speaker 1: their fat come back down. How many of you ways,
Speaker 1: it's only about fifteen, ten of us ten fifteen like yeah,
Speaker 1: ten fifteen of us the big game even Son, that
Speaker 1: dude you know my nigger with Son, that dude the
Speaker 1: dog training now the King Corsos or the big big
Speaker 1: dude of a father Alpha out there with the who
Speaker 1: you literally I'm likes ten of us, fifteen of us
Speaker 1: boom now my first best ship of the tunnel Alpha
Speaker 1: that I remember. I remember one day we was one
Speaker 1: night we was in the tunnel. Who the fund was performed?
Speaker 1: I'm not saying on I want to say was performing job.
Speaker 1: But John Rood was walking on the ball a little
Speaker 1: that was on the floor on the fleet, you know
Speaker 1: how the ball was set up. John was walking on
Speaker 1: the ball with no shirt on. Like it's just like,
Speaker 1: who the fuck? But this is what this was tune
Speaker 1: And then we were looking at a Bailly were like,
Speaker 1: damn you run up to the bathroom being being fund man.
Speaker 1: Women got assaulted in the tunnel and it was different.
Speaker 1: It was different, so little was ball. It was different
Speaker 1: and it would never be another spot like the tunnel.
Speaker 1: I don't even what city is in what it would
Speaker 1: never be another spot like the baby moms would beating
Speaker 1: that all I remember cast to get it popper before
Speaker 1: it comes just right now, your mom's had you let
Speaker 1: me take yourself. Don't at us at the tunnel. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this lib on air. I'm sorry. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but this was like the time Tom or the tunnel
Speaker 1: and I had just uh it was a sauce of
Speaker 1: Wards CALLI and this is the saucer Wards who everybody
Speaker 1: got robbed and it wasn't sure that if you ain't
Speaker 1: used to the niggas I was after that. That was
Speaker 1: when I first came out worser. Okay, when I first
Speaker 1: got bust around on the floor, I was out that
Speaker 1: way when the speaking right, so please, I saw it.
Speaker 1: I saw exactly everything you guys said. And then moving
Speaker 1: on from there, when we moved on from there, I've
Speaker 1: never seen nothing on. All I saw was we were
Speaker 1: trying to add one. But that what those days. That
Speaker 1: that's pretty much it. Trying to try I was. I
Speaker 1: don't trying to I don't try to say. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I trying to do as a foot of fo