1 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Welcome back to the Betting Pros Podcast, brought 2 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: to you by bet MGM. I'm your host, Dan Harris. 3 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter at Dan Harris. Eighty. 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: Week one is almost in the books. 5 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: We still have one game left tonight, but it is 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: already time to start looking ahead at the lines for 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: week two to find out if there is any value, 8 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: if we expect any movement, all that good stuff. To 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: do that with me is Ian McMillan from bet Sided. 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Ian mac betts. And that's Ai 11 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: and Ian. Thank you for joining me. 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: How you doing. 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: I'm doing well, man, Thanks for having me. 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: Did you have a good beat on week one? 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: Because I felt like there were some games that I 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: saw really clearly in others I was just way off on. 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: I did very well in Week one. I went twelve 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: and three. I bet on every single game. I had 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy two games this year. I'm betting 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: on every single one. I did the same thing last season, 21 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: and I'm on pace now to have easily my best 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: week I've ever had, so twelve and three heading into 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: Monday night football, so I've been lucky. 24 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: How did all right? First of all, for the record. 25 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 2: Who do you have tonight? 26 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: I got the Raiders to cover tonight? 27 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: Okay, is it four or four and a half when 28 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: you had it? 29 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 3: I think I have it at four. 30 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: Okay. 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Are you 69 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: ready for an early look at Week two? 70 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: Lines. 71 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely very exciting. Let's get into it. 72 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. I love it. 73 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm going to be using the consensus lines 74 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: over at bettingpros dot com that looks at a bunch 75 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: of different books, but obviously we will look around and 76 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: see whether or not any individual book is offering anything 77 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: that might be a little more favorable or anything like that. 78 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: So let's start with the Thursday night game, and that 79 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: is the Giants of visiting Washington and taking on the 80 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: Washington football team. Consensus line right now Betting Pros is 81 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 1: Washington laying three and a half points and the over 82 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: under a minuscule forty one points. 83 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: How do you see this game? 84 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: I mean, we're starting off right in Week two with 85 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: just a classic Thursday night football game between two teams 86 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: that just stinks. So, I mean that's a pretty low total. 87 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: My initial thought would have been to go with the under, 88 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: but I think I'm going to back the Giants on 89 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: this one. I think they had kind of a bad 90 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: showing in Week one. Now Washington that was actually on Washington. 91 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: That was one of the few picks I lost last week. 92 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: So maybe I'm just a little bit of an anti 93 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: Washington buyas. I'm a little mad at them a little bit, 94 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: but I think the Giants are better than what they 95 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: showed in Week one. My issue with the Giants is 96 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: they just don't have an offensive line. I hate that 97 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: these teams that go up and pick up all these 98 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: like wide receivers and these finesse positions and don't build 99 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: the offensive line. So their offensive line is probably gonna 100 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: have issues against his Washington defensive line. But I don't know, man, 101 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: I'm trying not to overreact to Week one results where 102 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: the Giants looked really bad. I think that's what week 103 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 3: two is really all about, trying not to overreact to 104 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: week one results. So I'm probably gonna take a lot 105 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: of underdogs in week two. So I'm gonna start off 106 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: with the Giants on Thursday night. 107 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really tough. 108 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: Out of curiosity, do you what do you think the 109 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: impact is of the fact that Ryan Fitzpatrick obviously suffered 110 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: that hip this location, he's out, it's gonna be Taylor Heineke. 111 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: Do you think that helps the over helps the under or. 112 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: What I mean, it certainly has to help the under 113 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 3: I mean, if there's one thing about Fitzpatrick that he 114 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: can do, and that's that's throw touchdowns. Now, sometimes he 115 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: throwze five interceptions to the five touchdowns, but usually those 116 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: interceptions then turn into points for the other team, which 117 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: then helped the over as well. So I mean, I 118 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: would guess this total would be would be significantly higher, 119 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: probably five or six points higher if Fitzpatrick was playing out. 120 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: You think it may it moved that much. 121 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: See, and this is actually I wish I could have 122 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: checked it out before we recorded. I actually don't know 123 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: if it moved. Do you ever do you take out 124 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: like a look aheadline or when you make your bets 125 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: on every game? Do you wait until basically you have 126 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: all the information possible. 127 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I place my bets because so I record 128 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: my podcast, the Bacon Bets Podcast Wednesday night. So right 129 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: before I record, that's when I lock in my bettcha 130 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,679 Speaker 3: because that I know, I'm kind of at the mercy 131 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 3: of those Wednesday Night lines, So I do. I try 132 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: not to look too far ahead, but I did not 133 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: see what the total was on the look aheadlines. Would 134 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: have been. 135 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: Interesting though, right, And again, realistically that's that's not a 136 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: huge deal necessarily because I don't really finalize it until 137 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: obviously the end of the previous week. But interesting because 138 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: I don't I don't I get that fits helps it 139 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: leans towards the over, But I think that big a move. 140 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: That'd be a pretty big move. Heine gets very capable. 141 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: I think for me, I see it sort of the 142 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: way you do. I mean the under obviously hitting the 143 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: Broncos in the Broncos Giants game, but I don't really 144 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: think I could go anywhere near the total in this game. 145 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: But with the spread, if you're giving me the hook 146 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: with the extra five, you know, half a point, I'm. 147 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 2: Probably taking it. 148 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: There are threes out there, by the way I FanDuel, 149 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: there's threes so that I don't really like. But if 150 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: you give me the hook, I probably will go there. 151 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: How about the absolutely dominant Houston Texans going to Cleveland 152 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: to take on the Browns. The Browns are laying a 153 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: minuscule twelve and a half points. 154 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: The over under is forty eight. What do you think? 155 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 3: This one's tough? Man, These big Week two spreads and 156 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: my biggest issue, and I'm probably gonna go with the 157 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: Browns here. I haven't finalized it yet, even though it's 158 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 3: a big spread and my big thing is the Texans 159 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 3: run defense last year one of the worst run defense. 160 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: I think it might have been the worst. I think 161 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: them in the Bengals were the two worst run defenses 162 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: in the NFL last year. And then we obviously know 163 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: that's exactly what the Cleveland Browns do really well is 164 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: just pound the rock. I think the Browns are the 165 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 3: best offensive line in the NFL. I think Nick Chubb 166 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 3: might be the best running back in the NFL. I 167 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 3: would say he is. I would go on the limb 168 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: and say Nick Chubb is. I know a lot of 169 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: people would always say Derrick Henry Christian McCaffrey. I love 170 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: Nick Chubb. I think he's gonna have a big year. 171 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 3: Big spread though, man, and I hate taking double digit 172 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: favorites in the NFL, but and there's a couple of 173 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: them this week, I might have to, So right now 174 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna lean Browns. But it's this one's tough, man, 175 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: This one's tough because the thing about the Texans they 176 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: have veterans, they have guys who kind of know the sport. 177 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: It's not a young team, which isn't good for them 178 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 3: long term. But they're gonna be able to win a 179 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: couple of games this year. I think because of that 180 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: veteran presence on that team, so tough one. I'm gonna 181 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: take the. 182 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: Browns well Tarat Taylor. 183 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a professional quarterback, right, He's going to 184 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: keep them stther than there. Let me ask you something, man, 185 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: Am I crazy or I don't remember? Up until three 186 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: years ago, maybe seeing just these giant line I mean, 187 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: twelve and a half's not insane, like not like when 188 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: we're getting like the seventeen or eighteen point lines right 189 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: with like the Patriots stuff. But to see these lines 190 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: just routinely, like in the double digits all the day long, 191 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: is it me? 192 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: Or do we see that way more frequently these days? 193 00:07:58,360 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think we are. I mean they're starting to 194 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 3: us look like college football lines a little, right, But yeah, 195 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: I think we are. I don't know if it's just 196 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: actually disparity in kind of talent, or if it's just 197 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: because the public is getting so much more involved in 198 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: sports betting, and I think that might have something to 199 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: do with it that. Obviously, the public betters are usually 200 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: a little bit square, so when it's a big mismatch, 201 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: they just assume that the better team is gonna win 202 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: by a ton of points. But not necessarily the case. 203 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: I mean, look at this Kansas City Chiefs last season, 204 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: big favorites in almost every single game. A lot of 205 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: them were like double digit close to double jit digit. 206 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: In the regular season. They finished seven to nine against 207 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: the spread. So even though there's mismatches, doesn't mean the 208 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: team's gonna win by a lot. 209 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike, with the last game, I don't really see 210 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: like a ton of value here that I'm dying to 211 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: lock in a line or anything before we move later 212 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: in the week. 213 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 2: This is there just tough. 214 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: Honestly, Let's go to the Patriots visiting the Jets. Patriots 215 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: are favored by five and a half points and the 216 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: total is forty two and a half. 217 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: What do you think, Oh, I think I got to 218 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: go with the under on that one. I was on 219 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 3: the under and the Jets Panthers game this past week, 220 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: I just don't. I mean, I don't really believe in 221 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 3: anything of the Jets offense. The other game I was 222 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 3: on the under as well was the Patriots, and the 223 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: Patriots and Dolphins last week, both those under his cash 224 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 3: as well. I think both teams do have slightly better 225 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: defenses than offenses, especially the case with the Patriots. I 226 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: just don't think they have quite enough offense weapons to 227 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: put up a ton of points. I'm surprised. I'm actually 228 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: surprised this total is not in the thirties, like thirty 229 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: eight to thirty nine. So I think you said it 230 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: was forty two and a half. I'm probably gonna end 231 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: up taking the under it no one. 232 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: What's funny is there are books out there at forty 233 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: three and a half. Forty two and a half is 234 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: the consensus line. But you know, I'm in agreement with you. 235 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the bottom line is that the 236 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: Jets have a significant weakness in their defense, and it 237 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: is the secondary. But that's not really necessarily what the 238 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: Patriots are built to exploit, right, I mean, you're gonna 239 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,599 Speaker 1: have Nelson Agalo or you're gonna have Jacobe Myers, but 240 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: they're not the type of guys who are really just 241 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: gonna destroy you who you can pick on them. They 242 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 1: are gonna want to play conservative, They're gonna want to 243 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: lean on their defense. 244 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: And we saw the Jets. 245 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson hung in there and played pretty well in 246 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: the second half, but their offensive line is decimated. Makai 247 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: Becktin's now out for several weeks. I'm with you. I'm 248 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: with you if you can get a forty three and 249 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: a half, Like there are randomly kind of sitting out 250 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: there and it's forty three at Fox Bed and at 251 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: points bet it's forty three. I agree with you. I 252 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: would lock that in because I do not expect it 253 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: to necessarily move down. Now, this one's a little tough 254 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: because we have not seen the Raiders play. But the 255 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: Steelers right now are home and they are laying six 256 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: and a half to the Raiders, and the total is 257 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: not a big deal. I totally messed up my sheet 258 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: right now. But start with the spread. I'll get you 259 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: the total in the second six and a half? Did 260 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: I say six and a half? Sorry, Steelers at home 261 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: against the Raiders. 262 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 263 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: I think I would probably back the Raiders, just like 264 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: am tonight. I mean, I think the thing with the 265 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 3: Raiders is just people think they're worse than what they 266 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: are they're actually I don't think they're that bad of 267 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: a team really, especially their offense. They were like something 268 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: like sixth or seventh in offensive yards per game last season, 269 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 3: around the same and third down conversion percentage, which I 270 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 3: value quite a bit when handicapping my dame. Their defense 271 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: is obviously horrific, but I think the Steelers offense is horrific. 272 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: So if the Steelers are getting that many or the 273 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: sort of the Raiders are getting that many points, I'm 274 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 3: gonna definitely back them on the spread consist year. Obviously, 275 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: the Steelers defense is arguably the top unit in the NFL, 276 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 3: but I don't think the Raiders are as bad as 277 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: a lot of people think. Now, if someone's watching this 278 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 3: after Monday night, I might look stupid because who knows 279 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: what's gonna happen in this game. So in my defense, 280 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: we haven't seen the Raiders yet this season, but I 281 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: think they're better than They're not a great team. They're 282 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: not a good team, but I think they're better than 283 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: what a lot of people give them credit for. 284 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm coming with you on the stupid train, then, because 285 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: I agree with you, I really do. I think the 286 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: Raiders offensive line is subpar, but other than that. 287 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: It's a pretty decent team. 288 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Derek Carr is kind of quietly a pretty 289 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: okay decent quarterback in the league. Darren Efficient, thank you 290 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: very much. That's a nice way to put it. Darren 291 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: Waller is a superstar. Obviously, they have the two running 292 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: backs with Josh Jacobs, who again as we record this 293 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: has an illness sounds like you will play tonight, but 294 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: also Kenyan Drake. The receivers are young but emerging with 295 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: Rugs and Brian Edwards. 296 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: So that's there. But you're right, the real thing is 297 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: the Steelers. I mean, their. 298 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: Offensive line looked abismo, as we kind of expected coming 299 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: into that game against the Bills. They really struggle to 300 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: kind of have a cohesive offensive philosophy. So I agree, 301 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: if you're getting that points, what about the total, which 302 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: I have finally found, Ian, don't worry. 303 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: The consentus line is actually forty eight. 304 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: But when I'm looking at the various books, you've got 305 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: mostly a big disparity here, more than I usually see 306 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: bet MGM for example, it's forty seven and a half. 307 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: Fandele it's forty nine and a half. So like the 308 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: consensus is forty eight in between. So do you think 309 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: there's if you're like, let's say you have access to 310 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: one of those books, do you find one of those 311 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: enticing one way or another? 312 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be taking the under for sure. If it's 313 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 3: going to be in the high forties. I mean, like 314 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: I kind of said the ste I mean, the Steelers 315 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 3: just stop the Buffalo Bills offense, which we think is 316 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: still one of the best offenses in the NFL. And 317 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: then you got the Steelers offense which can't move the 318 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: ball at all. I mean they needed a block punt 319 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 3: for a touchdown to win that game. So yeah, I mean, 320 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: I'm some shocked. As in the high forties, I'd be 321 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 3: taking the under in that for sure. 322 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I think this is something 323 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: where you probably want to lock it in out, especially 324 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: if you're like, look, I'm in New Hampshire. 325 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: The only book we have access to his DraftKings, it's 326 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: at forty nine. 327 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: I will be locking it in ordinarily, just because I 328 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: respect you so much, and I'm not going to do 329 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: it while we're podcasting right now, but ordinarily for guests 330 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: that I think lesser of, I would do it actually 331 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: right now, but I want, all right, let's go to 332 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: the Bengals visiting the Bears. The Bears here are laying 333 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: three points in our consensus line, and the over under 334 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: is forty five. 335 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: Any value in either of those numbers, that's tough. 336 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 3: I think I think that line set right. I mean, 337 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 3: I'm kind of a Bears hater, to be honest. I 338 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 3: veta against them quite often last season, especially right after 339 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 3: they got off of that like five and one start 340 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: or whatever it was. So I think I would have 341 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: to back the Bengals here. Also, I was impressed by 342 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: what I saw from the Bengals in Week one. That 343 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: was one of the bets that I lost. I was 344 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: on the Vikings. I thought the Vikings were going to 345 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 3: run away with that. I was nervous for Joe Burrow 346 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: coming off that the knee injury because there were some 347 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 3: reports that he wasn't quite feeling comfortable in training camp. 348 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: But he looked great. He you know, faced the pressure. 349 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: He threw a lot of great footballs. I think I'm 350 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 3: going to back the Bengals in that one. But that 351 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: line seems just about right. That one. That one's that 352 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: one's gonna be one. I'm gonna have to dive into 353 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: a little bit more. But kind of when you're I mean, 354 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: when you're betting on every single NFL game, you're not 355 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: gonna have a strong feel one or the. 356 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: Other and everything. So it's the best. 357 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: I love that you're like, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna 358 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: have to bet this one, so I'll let you know 359 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: how I feel about it. 360 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: For me, I completely agree with you. 361 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: I think both the total and the spread are just 362 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: right there at a point where that you don't want 363 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: to bet this game. You have to because it's in 364 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: your contract. But still I think that it's a game 365 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: that I want to avoid. Although I will say I 366 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: was really impressed with the Bengals and Burrow. You know, 367 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm obviously also a fantasy guy and I do projections. 368 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: I was very nervous about Joe Burrow and what he 369 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: would look like early in the season, for the mental 370 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: part of it, not the physical parts, and like he'd 371 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: fully recovered, but it's very difficult when. 372 00:14:58,480 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: You have that injury. 373 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: And that's really what you hearing in camp was that 374 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: he was struggling the mental part of it, and he hung. 375 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: I think he was sacked five times. You wouldn't have 376 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: known it. He didn't look jumpy in the pocket. He 377 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: uncorked some great throws, and Jamar Chase another guy missing 378 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: football for a year. Everybody was kind of like, oh no, 379 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm worried. He looked fantastic too, So I'm definitely more 380 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: optimistic on the team overall. At the same time, three 381 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: points right there is the correct spread. The Rams are 382 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: visiting the Colts, the Rams are favored by four, and 383 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: the total is forty seven and a half Rams. 384 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: I already was high on the Rams heading into this season, 385 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: and then they did nothing but make me even more 386 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: confident in them against the Bears there on Sunday night. 387 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford looks like, at least through one week, he 388 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: looks like he's living up to people's expectations. The defense 389 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: is still a dominant unit, maybe not quite as good 390 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: as the defense last year. But then the complete opposite 391 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: was the case for the Colts. Curson Wentz didn't impress 392 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: me whatsoever. Colts offense didn't necessarily look great, didn't look explosive. Yeah, 393 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: I'm definitely that's definitely a good spot for the Rams. 394 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 3: I think where'd you say that game? Was? That? Is 395 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 3: that in? 396 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: It's in Indianapolis, in Indianapolis. 397 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so obviously otherwise, yeah, you would expect it to 398 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: be yeah, closer to touch on. I agree with you, 399 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: by the way. So I do think the Cults are 400 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: going to play a little bit better here. I mean, 401 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: remember they had such little time to really practice and work. 402 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: But they really have nothing offensively right now. I mean 403 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: the receivers. I like Michael Pittman Jr. I like Zach Paskal. 404 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: They're certainly not going to be able to do anything 405 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: against this this defense here with the cornerbacks, and then 406 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: you just are you know, Jon Taylor is very good, 407 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: but Niam Hines like it's gimmicky a little bit with 408 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: this offense. And I think you're going to get some 409 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: value right near now early on the RAMS. I think 410 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: you had value in week one as well, which I 411 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: think most better saw. That's why you saw the spread 412 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: rise overall. What about the total? Any feelings on it? 413 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: It is forty seven and a half. I would probably 414 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: lean the under on that one. 415 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: Generally in totals, I'm usually an under guy as it 416 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: is because I always feel like the points that the 417 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 3: totals are point or two higher than they normally would 418 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: because the public loves betting on overs. I mean who 419 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 3: who the unders not enjoy. 420 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: Whoa something right as anything? 421 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 3: Not a fun bet to make, So usually that one, 422 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 3: especially where it's close, I would lean the under. And yeah, 423 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. Obviously the RAMS defense is going to 424 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 3: be one of the best in the unit and one 425 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 3: of the best units in the NFL. It's gonna be 426 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 3: hard for me to take an over in a Rams 427 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: game this year. 428 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm I agree with you. I agree with 429 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: you for sure, But for me, it's a little bit 430 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: of a stay away just because I don't know. I mean, 431 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: I could see the Colt Stephens is not bad, but 432 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: you saw Russell Wilson, like I could see the Rams 433 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: by themselves putting up, you know whatever, a thirty spot 434 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: if they absolutely had to. 435 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: Bills visiting the Dolphins. 436 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: The Bills are laying three and a half points and 437 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: the total is forty eight and a half. 438 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: What do you think, UH gonna take the Bills. This 439 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 3: is a spot where, like I said earlier, I'm trying 440 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: not to react a week overreact to Week one. The 441 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: Bills didn't look great, especially offensively, but I think they 442 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: are still the team that we saw last year. And 443 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: the interesting thing to think about the Miami Dolphins, and 444 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 3: they were the best spread team last year, but were 445 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 3: they eleven and five I think in the regular season 446 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: against the spread? And I was on the wrong side 447 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: the large majority of them. And excuse me, they had 448 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 3: the same kind of oat come in Week one where 449 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,239 Speaker 3: they want and cover the spread. But if you look 450 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 3: at their defensive numbers, they're giving up yards. But what's 451 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 3: happening is they're getting timely turnovers at the perfect time, 452 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 3: and that that's what their whole kind of motive was. 453 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 3: Last year they led the league in takeaways and turnovers. 454 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: In my opinion, at least, there is at least some 455 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: degree of luck to it. It's not all skill. You 456 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 3: need the running back to fumble the ball. You need 457 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 3: the quarterback to you know, miss rita route or coverage 458 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 3: and throw a bad ball. So if they don't keep 459 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 3: getting these these kind of takeaways, the Dolphins shouldn't be 460 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 3: as good as what they are, especially obviously their defense. 461 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 3: But they keep getting these takeaways. So it's funny to 462 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 3: see that exact same thing happen in Week one that 463 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: we saw all season last year in the Dolphins. So 464 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: I going to continue fading the Dolphins because, like I said, 465 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: I just think takeaways have a little bit of an 466 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: element of luck, and that defense is giving up yards, 467 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 3: the offense is and getting a ton of yards, and 468 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: I think the Bills are gonna have a big bounce 469 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: back week, so I'm gonna go with them. 470 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is really a Bills statement game 471 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: at this one, because I think right it has to, 472 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: because there are question marks about them because Josh Allen. 473 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: You know, in Fantasy especially. 474 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: We talk about that, like everybody waits for Josh Allen 475 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: to turn back into like the guy who the Bills draft, 476 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: and you're like, just this inaccurate guy, don't know what 477 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: we saw last year. It's eventually things are gonna come back. 478 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen. Josh Allen is great. The system 479 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: that they will put in together is great. They're gonna 480 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: be a fantastic team, including this year. There are some 481 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: threes out there. There's actually one two and a half 482 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: out there, which I love. But even with the hook, 483 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm totally fine with that. I'm not really going near 484 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: the spread. It's at forty eight and a half. That 485 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: strikes me as about right for something like that, you know, 486 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: but I do agree with you that even on the road, 487 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm taking the Bills even if you gotta lay the hook. 488 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: How about the Saints visiting the Panthers. 489 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: The Saints are three and a half point favorites, and 490 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: I will get you the total in like two seconds. 491 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: How about the three and a half point favorites for 492 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: the Saints. 493 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: God to take the Saints man. Jameis Winston is my 494 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: preseason bet to win MVP, and he proved proved me 495 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 3: right a little bit there in Week one. Now, he 496 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: didn't throw over a ton of yards. He's what like 497 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty six yards, but somebody still had 498 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: five touchdown passes, which is kind of insane. But I'm not. 499 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: I'm I'm an anti Sam Donald guy. I was. I 500 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 3: don't understand why the Panthers opted for Sam Donald over 501 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 3: over Teddy Bridgewater. I thought, I mean, look just look 502 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: at their completion percentage in their career and we'll get 503 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 3: to Teddy Bridgewater when we talk about the Broncos. But 504 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 3: not a believer in Sam Donald, it's it's gonna be 505 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 3: tough for me to ever bet on him. I'm gonna 506 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 3: take the Saints in this one. I love how Jamis 507 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 3: Winston looked. He didn't throw any in any interceptions and 508 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 3: that's that's his key thing. So give me the Saints 509 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: in that one. 510 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: I technically threw an interception that was negated by a 511 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: nonsense penalty, but yes, he looked good. 512 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: The offense look good, I know, officially not I'm just 513 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 2: teasing you. 514 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: As a Jets fan, there is no greater fader of 515 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold than myself. 516 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 2: And again, the one non. 517 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: Totals bet that I gave out on our show on 518 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: Thursday was that I like the Jets getting five and 519 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: a half. 520 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 2: Now, that was a sweat, a little. 521 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: Bit of a lucky cover, but whatever they covered. I 522 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: do not believe in this Panthers team whatsoever. I do 523 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: absolutely believe. 524 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: In the Saints team. 525 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 3: Now. 526 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: They are suffering from a few injuries here on the 527 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, so that is something that 528 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: could mess around with it. But I don't really see 529 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: these two teams as in the same class right now. 530 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: Just given what we saw in that game against the 531 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: very good Packers team, I don't think the Packers are done. 532 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean that defense. Again, they have injuries, but they're legitimate. 533 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: And if you're gonna have that defense going up against 534 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: Sam Darnald, especially off his high of his revenge game win, 535 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: I like that. I also kind of lean towards the 536 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: over at forty four and a half. It's a pretty 537 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: low total, not crazy low or anything like that. But 538 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: I do think that the Saints are going to be 539 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,239 Speaker 1: able to score pretty easily on the Panthers, like not 540 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: at will, but certainly they'll be able to put up points. 541 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: And I think they're just enough there. 542 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,239 Speaker 1: I think the Panthers probably only need to put up 543 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, maybe two touchdowns, will probably find their way 544 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: into it, and I think the Saints may go up 545 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: ahead and sort of lead it to like the back 546 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: door over. So for me, I kind of like the 547 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: over under forty four and a half the over, but 548 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: I don't feel like it's something you need to rush 549 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: out and bet you know, I don't expect that line 550 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: to move all that much, you know what I'm saying. 551 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: And I will say one other thing about the Saints. 552 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: Nobody talks about the Saints, at least in this offseas. 553 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 3: Nobody really talk about how good their defense was, like 554 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 3: they I think they were a third in scoring last year. 555 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: The defense was, but that's not a thing that's that's 556 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 3: ever really brought up. And then you saw that defense 557 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: against the Packers there in Week one, So Saints continue 558 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: to be underrated. 559 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 2: I think, yep, all right, you mentioned the Broncos. Let's 560 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: go to them. They are visiting the Jaguars. 561 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: The Jaguars are getting six points from the Broncos here 562 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: and the total is forty five and a half. 563 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: What do you think? 564 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 3: I listen, I'm not a big trends guy when it 565 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 3: comes to, oh, this team's you know, ten and two 566 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: against the spread in this spot. But there's one trend 567 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: that I'm obsessed with that I have to continue betting on, 568 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 3: and it is Teddy Bridgewater. Teddy covers, man. I don't 569 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: have is against the spread record in front of me, 570 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 3: but I think it was seventy two percent or seventy 571 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: five percent hitting in the season. Then he just covered 572 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 3: in Week one. He's a sports betters. He should be 573 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 3: in the Sports Betting Hall of Fame if that ever exists. 574 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 3: He needs to be eased that whole room dedicated to himself. So, 575 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 3: like I said, I'm not usually big trends guy, more 576 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 3: of a stats guy, but I'm gonna keep riding my guy, 577 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: Teddy Bridgewater. Man, I'll take the Broncos. 578 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: And I think if you do like him, you should 579 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: probably bet him now because I think that if anything, 580 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: this spread rises, right, like, if anything, the public is like, 581 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm not betting on the Jaguars, like give you the Broncos, 582 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: like Teddy whatever, and it rises closer to a touchdown, 583 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: So I think you do want it now when it's 584 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: blows touch on, You're not going to miss out on 585 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: anything if you bet it. It's not like it's going 586 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: to drop to you know, for or anything like that, 587 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: So you're not missing anything by doing it now. Any 588 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: any lean at all on the total forty five and 589 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: a half probably under. 590 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 3: I mean Trevor Lawrence struggled against the Texans defense, which 591 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 3: is supposed to be one of the worst defense in 592 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 3: the NFL, and now he's going up against a very 593 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 3: very good, probably underrated defense in the Broncos. And the 594 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: Broncos offense, as much as I like Teddy Bridgewater, is 595 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: not exactly an explosive, high scoring offense. It's efficient. He 596 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: doesn't really turn the ball over. So yeah, I would 597 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: probably go under on that total for sure, all right. 598 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: Next one, both teams winning in Week one, the forty 599 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: nine Ers visiting the Eagles. The forty nine Ers are 600 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: favored by three and a half points and the total 601 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: is fifty. Obviously, the forty nine Ers suffered a few 602 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: injuries with Brett, and they've got Mostart who's now going 603 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: to be out eight weeks, so they're a little banged 604 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: up here. Meanwhile, Jalen Hurts was super impressive obviously in 605 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 1: that opening win. 606 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: What do you think? 607 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, heading in the season, I thought Jalen Hurts is 608 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 3: one of the more underrated quarterbacks. I didn't think he 609 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 3: really got a fair shot. Last year started late when 610 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 3: the team had basically already given up on the season. 611 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 3: They're getting three and a half points in the spot. 612 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: And what happened with the forty nine Ers defense. This 613 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 3: is supposed to be one of the best defenses in 614 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: the NFL and they just allowed the Detroit Lions, led 615 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 3: by Jared Goff to put up like four hundred and 616 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 3: thirty yards against them. What's going on in the forty 617 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: nine Ers defense? Now? To be fair, the majority of 618 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: the points and the arrows came late in the game 619 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: when basically the game was at least supposed to be 620 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 3: over or felt like it was over. So maybe they 621 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 3: are as good as they're supposed to be. But I'll 622 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 3: take the Eagles getting three and a half points at home. 623 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 3: It's over. It's just over that magic number of three 624 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 3: that obviously, if you're betting on football, you know that 625 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 3: I'll take the home team in the points, so. 626 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: It's all three and a half. 627 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I like a home dog just generally that 628 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: piques my interest a little bit. But I think you 629 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: might get a little bit of the Eagles being undervalued 630 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: early in the season. I think, you know, betters are 631 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: probably willing maybe books too, as books look to sharpen 632 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: their their models and their lines. 633 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: Like I don't think they fully figured out exactly. 634 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I joked about it with our last 635 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: gut Sewan because were both joking about how we had 636 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni Coach of the Year tickets at like thirty 637 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: five to one or forty to one. And part of 638 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: it was they designed this entire offense. They had the 639 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: whole offseason to design an offense. Rumors aside about the 640 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: Shawn Watson around Jalen Hurts and his skill set. He 641 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: has some playmakers and some receivers right now, because again 642 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: he has Devonte Smith, who's really good. Rager, Jalen Rager 643 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: looks pretty good. You've got Dallas Goddard still there. The 644 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: offensive line is healthy. It's going to make a big difference. 645 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: And again the forty nine are suffered a bunch of injuries. 646 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: If you're giving me the hook with the team at home, 647 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: I am more than. 648 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: Willing to take it. 649 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: How about is another big spread that we talked about. 650 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: The Bucks are laying twelve and a half at home 651 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: to the Falcons. 652 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 2: The totals fifty two. 653 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 3: I'm a Falcons fan, man, they just they're bad. They're 654 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 3: so bad, man, I have to take the Buccaneers in 655 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: this spot. Man, I was looking obviously as a Falcons 656 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 3: fan when no matter how a game goes on, that 657 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: that's the game where I'm going to be focused on 658 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: more afterwards as far as looking at what happened in 659 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 3: that game went right, what went wrong? Nothing went right 660 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 3: for the Falcons. They have an offensive lineman I'm blanking 661 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 3: on the name, but then an offensive lineman who would 662 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 3: like a PFF ranking of like one point nine to 663 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 3: eight or something like that, which is Matt Ryan. Apparently 664 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: wasn't responsible for any of the hits that he took 665 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: or any sacks that he took. Their offensive line is terrible, 666 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 3: and when he looked on the defense side, they have 667 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 3: one good cornerback in aj Terrell. The other guy just stinks, 668 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 3: and the Eagles targeted in the whole game, that's where 669 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: they got the large majority of the yards. So if 670 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts can pick apart your defense, what is Tom 671 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 3: Brady gonna do? And the Super Bowl defending champion Damn 672 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 3: Bay Buccaneers. So I mean, if the Falcons can't score 673 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: a touchdown on the Eagles, what are they going to 674 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 3: do against this Buccaneers? If they can't stop Jalen Hurts 675 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 3: and the Eagles, what are they going to do against 676 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: the Buccaneers? Once again, I hate betting big favorites in 677 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 3: the NFL, especially when it comes to divisional opponents, because 678 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 3: they typically know we should be a little bit better. Yep, 679 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: But I can't bettle my Falcons. Man. They might be 680 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 3: the worst team in the NFL this year. 681 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: This was one of the bigger lines that I'm okay 682 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: with like you, because I agree there's not that you 683 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: can't watch that game, the Eagles against the Falcons and 684 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: think that anything remotely optimistic about what we saw on 685 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: either side of the ball. 686 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. 687 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: Now you've got the Bucks, they're coming off, they're rested, right, 688 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: They've got. 689 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 2: The Mini Bay here. 690 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: The opening day, you know what they can do offensively, 691 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: like whatever they want, and their defense was probably a 692 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: little pissed off because they allowed the Cowboys to kind 693 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: of Dak Prescott to throw for over four hundred yards. 694 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: So I'm in agreement with you. I would take this 695 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: at twelve and a half right now. 696 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: Again, I don't think you have any real chance of 697 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: losing value if you bet it. Now, I think of 698 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: anything you could lose value if you don't bet it. 699 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: The total at fifty two, I'm probably just staying away 700 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: from because I have no sense of if the Falcons 701 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: are going to be able to score at all or not, 702 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: or whether we saw like, oh god, they're going to 703 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: be a team that's going to put up, you know, 704 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: six ten points a game. So for me, I'm staying 705 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: away from the total personally. 706 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: But themselves, Bucks might score, that's true for themselves. 707 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: You want over, then you want to go over with yeah? 708 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, there we go. 709 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: Go for the over. Right, there be a public root 710 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: for their root for scoring. 711 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to the Vikings visiting the Cardinals. 712 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: The Cardinals are laying four and a half points, and 713 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: the total is at fifty one. Obviously incredibly impressive opening 714 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: day performance by the car Knows, who looked like world 715 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: beaters both offensively and defensively. You mentioned the Vikings big 716 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: disappointment expected them to be able to beat the Bengals. 717 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: They didn't. But what do you think here? Fifty one 718 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: for the total and four and a half is the spread. 719 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 3: This one's a tough one. So the Cardinals were actually 720 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 3: my money line bet in week one, so I cashed 721 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 3: on them. But then the Vikings were one of my 722 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: favorite picks, if not like a top three favorite pick 723 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 3: for me in Week one because I thought the Vikings 724 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: were gonna have a big bounce back season. They had 725 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 3: a lot of injuries on defense last year. I thought 726 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 3: I was expecting so much more, especially with Dalvin Cooks. 727 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 3: And now I'm kind of torn, like do I stick 728 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 3: to that take? Like do I'm trying not to overreact 729 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 3: to week one? But the Vikings did not really look 730 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 3: great in Week one, so this might be the toughest 731 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: game on the board to bet for me this week. 732 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 3: I think I'm just going to I think I'm gonna 733 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: plug my nose and take the Vikings in the points here. 734 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 3: I think I'm going to try not to overreact to that, 735 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 3: you know, subpower performance against the Bengals, maybe the Cardinals. 736 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: I listen, I what faded the car or I faded 737 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 3: the Titans with the Cardinals money line because I think 738 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 3: the Titans are way worse than what the record was 739 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 3: last year. They had like a bottom three, bottom four defense. 740 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 3: I do think the Vikings defense is better than Titans. 741 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 3: Hopefully they can slow down the Cardinals offense a little bit. 742 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 3: I hate to bet, but I'm thinking to plug my 743 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 3: nose and take the Vikings in the points. 744 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: So I'm not getting anywhere near to this game, but 745 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: I will say that if I did. But if I did, 746 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: I do think that this strikes me as something where 747 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: the public is just going to be all over the 748 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals because of what. 749 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: We saw, and the sharp money is going to flood. 750 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: In on the Vikings because they know that the Vikings 751 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: aren't as bad as what we saw last week and 752 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: the Cardinals aren't as good. 753 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: And again, the big thing we didn't nobody really. 754 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: Talked about this, at least I didn't hear about it, 755 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: and I didn't really think about it, especially from a 756 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: betting or fantasy perspective, is just how little time the 757 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: Titans had to become a cohesive unit given the COVID 758 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: stuff that they dealt with, like a real legit outbreak, 759 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: their coach, their quarterback, they had tons of stuff. I 760 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: just feel like that game, I'm throwing it entirely out 761 00:30:58,920 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: in my mind for the Titan. 762 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: But Cardinals did look good. 763 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: And it takes some major, you know, strength in your 764 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: stomach to be able to bet on the Vikings. But 765 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: I do agree if I were going to place a 766 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: bet on this game, which I am not, I do 767 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,239 Speaker 1: think that the Vikings are probably sid And again, this 768 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: is something where I think you don't have to rush in. 769 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: I do see a couple of three and a halfs 770 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: out there. My guess is it's gonna climb, because again 771 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see a lot of public 772 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: money at that very least come in on the Cardinals. 773 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: How about the Chargers laying three to the Cowboys in 774 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: Los Angeles with a total just fifty five, just fifty 775 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: five for the total? What do you think here that 776 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: that line? 777 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, the total actually moved quick. I think it opened 778 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: up like fifty one or fifty two. I think it's 779 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: fifty too. It opened up so already shot up another 780 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: tough game, man, because these the Cowboys have one of 781 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 3: the best offenses in the NFL and might maybe the 782 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 3: worst defense in the NFL. So, like, are either like, 783 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 3: is the defense gonna be all step up at all 784 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 3: in this game? Or is the offense going to take 785 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 3: a step back at all in this game? I think 786 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 3: I'm going to take the Cowboys in this one. I 787 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 3: believe in Dak Prescott. Iiman he torched that that that 788 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: Buccaneers defense, which is a very good defensive unit. Last week, 789 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 3: I didn't love what I saw from the Chargers offense, 790 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 3: but obviously they're going up against the Washington defense that's 791 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 3: that's one of the best in the league. Another tough 792 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 3: game to call. I'll take the Cowboys. 793 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: So but tough. 794 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: Do you think this is where the line ends up 795 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: at three or do you think it moves one way 796 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: or the other throughout the week. 797 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 3: I don't think there's gonna be much movement. I agree, 798 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 3: at least my My general feeling right now is this 799 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: is one that people are kind of torn on. They're 800 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 3: a little split. And when you get that, I mean, 801 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 3: it's not like the Cardinals game where I where where 802 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: we imagine a ton of money is gonna come in 803 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 3: on the Cardinals. I think people are kind of split 804 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: because I don't think everyone really knows what to do 805 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: with the Cowboys yet either. 806 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think it's probably gonna land here 807 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: at three. I think you're gonna get money on both sides. 808 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: And with the total, Ian, I mean, it's fifty five, 809 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: but I can't take the under on it. Like I 810 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: recognize how insane that total is. I completely understand that's 811 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: a banana's total, and I can't. I can't go. I'm 812 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: not gonna take the over. I think I'm just staying 813 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: away from the total. 814 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I can. Yeah, I can't take 815 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 3: it undering a Cowboys game. I'm not subjecting myself to 816 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 3: that kind of torture. That is fair. 817 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. 818 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: Seahawks at Homeling five and a half to the Titans, 819 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: who are obviously coming off a little bit of a 820 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: lacking and the total at fifty four, what do you think? 821 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Seahawks, I'm gonna continue to fade the Titans, Like 822 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 3: I said, they were at eleven to five team last year. 823 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 3: I think it's to be eleven and five with so 824 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 3: if I'm correct, They're twenty eight or twenty ninth in 825 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 3: opponent yards per game last season. The only teams that 826 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 3: were worse were the Lions, Jaguars, and Texans, and that's 827 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 3: not good. I don't know how a team can get 828 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: to eleven and five with that kind of defense. And 829 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 3: they did make some improvements in the offseason. I don't 830 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 3: think it was enough, though, Especially their passing defense is 831 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: not good. We saw what Kyler Murray did through the 832 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 3: air last week, and now you got Russell Wilson against them, 833 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 3: so I mean, good luck with that. So I'm going 834 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: to take the Seahawks in this one. I'm going to 835 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 3: keep fading the Titans until I think the lines are 836 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 3: set at a more appropriate number for how I kind 837 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 3: of evaluate them, and right now they shouldn't like I would. 838 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 3: I would set the Seahawks probably at six points right now. 839 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I don't want it. I just want to 840 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: stay away from this one. I see everything you're saying. 841 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: I'm not fading the Titans nearly as much as you are. 842 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: I understand why you are, and I think the Seahawks 843 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: are going to do what they did last year, which 844 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: has come out really hot, especially offensively before they kind 845 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: of turtle up a little bit because of they have 846 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: one bad game or something like that. 847 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 2: But still, I could also see. 848 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: A scenario where the Titans and Mike Rabel, who I 849 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: respect a ton as a coach, kind of lays into 850 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: them and they come out much sharper here. The total also, like, 851 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: I'd love to go over on this because I think 852 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a ton of scoring here. I don't 853 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: think the Seahawks defense is good enough to shut down 854 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: the Titans. With an extra week here to get better, 855 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: and I think the Seahawks can pretty much score it will. 856 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: But at fifty four, man, I just don't. I don't 857 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: think I can go near it. It's not a total 858 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: that I want to go near. 859 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 2: How about you? 860 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I would. I think I would take 861 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 3: the under. Obviously, we know the Titans love to run 862 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 3: the ball, and when you run the ball, I mean 863 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 3: obviously we all know the clock keeps going less time 864 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: on the clock, less time for points. That's tough, Yeah, 865 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 3: because of the Titans defense is it's kind of tough 866 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 3: to bet on under with the Titans defense, But I 867 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 3: think I'd go. 868 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: Under, all right, Chiefs visiting the Ravens the game we 869 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,959 Speaker 1: all deserve. Again, we have not seen the Ravens yet. 870 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: Hopefully they look like what we expected them to look. 871 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: They've dealt with several injuries coming in. But as of 872 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: right now, the Chiefs are favored by three and the 873 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: total is at fifty five and a half. These totals 874 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: man just nonsensical almost. By the way, one of my 875 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: favorite memories, I think from last year is when the 876 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: Ravens were favored against the Chiefs. I'm pretty sure that 877 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: was last year, and I remember taking Patrick Mahomes as 878 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: a dog and just feeling like it was like the dumbest, 879 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 1: like goofy. It's like when you, like, you know, win 880 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: the lottery or something like that. It was so ridiculous. 881 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: Here not a dog obviously laying three in Baltimore. 882 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 2: What do you think? 883 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, once again, a little tough because we haven't seen 884 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 3: the Ravens yet. But I mean, got to take the Chiefs, man, 885 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I say, got to take the Chiefs. But 886 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 3: then again, I mean the Chiefs have not been good 887 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 3: covering the spread. They didn't cover the spread in week 888 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 3: when either but I was on the Browns. But anytime 889 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 3: you can get the Chiefs at this low of a number. 890 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 3: I think you have to take them. Where you want 891 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 3: to avoid the Chiefs is when you get up closer 892 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 3: to a touchdown because it's tough to win football games 893 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 3: by more than a single score. But I think the 894 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 3: Ravens might regress a little bit this year. I'm very 895 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 3: interesting to see and hopefully we get a little bit 896 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 3: of a sense of it tonight. What Lamar Jackson is 897 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 3: going to be like because he took a little bit 898 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: of a step back last year. So is he going 899 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 3: to return to MVP form or is he going to 900 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 3: look more like he did last year? So this is 901 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 3: one that's it's very tough to call without seeing one 902 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 3: of the two teams involved. Like I feel like I 903 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 3: have a better sense of the Raiders even though I 904 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 3: haven't seen them this year. Where the Ravens, I really 905 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 3: want to see them, get a sense for them. And also, 906 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 3: obviously we all know how banged up their backfield is. 907 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 3: I had my phone on the other day. I thought 908 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 3: I might get a call from the Ravens to get 909 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 3: something because there's. 910 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 2: No don't worry get up there. 911 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 3: So I got it back the Chiefs and I would guess. 912 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 3: My guess would be I mean, unless the Ravens blow 913 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 3: up the Raiders tonight. Now I might look stupid in 914 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 3: hindsight saying this, but I think the spreadsbably going to 915 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 3: get bigger after this game. 916 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: After this game, yeah, I think that's right. 917 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: So again, if you're listening to it, people are probably 918 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: listening to this after the game is over anyway, so 919 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: maybe the line has already moved. It is three, and 920 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: it's three everywhere, like, there's no non threes that I'm 921 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: looking at in the market, because I think that that 922 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: is probably the right line necessarily. 923 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 2: But I would take the Chiefs if it gets over 924 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 2: a field goal. 925 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: I do worry a little bit, because you're right, the 926 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: Chiefs are a phenomenal team, but not great at covering 927 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: the spread necessarily. If it's at three, I feel fine 928 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: because I really do feel confident that a the Chiefs 929 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: are going to win this game again without having seen 930 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: this go, and second that it's going to be by 931 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: at least a field goal. So I feel comfortable at three. 932 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: When it gets three and a half, the total is bananas. 933 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm not even like, I'm just not going near fifty 934 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: five and a half points. Bread, I get it. Patrick, 935 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: The Chiefs can do that by themselves if they really 936 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: had to. But I'm just staying away. Last one here, 937 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: a really really really angry Packers team at home on 938 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: Monday Night football against the Lions. Laying ten and a 939 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: half points there, Get sure that hook is there, because 940 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 1: they're going to make you If you want the Packers, 941 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: they're going to make you mad. And total of forty 942 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,240 Speaker 1: eight and a half points. 943 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm realizing now that I like three double digit 944 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 3: favorites in the NFL and that's. 945 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 2: Not What would the spread have to be for you 946 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 2: to not take the Packers in this game? And that's 947 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 2: the question. 948 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 3: I think it'd have to be two touchdowns. I think 949 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 3: it would have to be. I mean, but then again, 950 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 3: the Lions put up four hundred and thirty yards last week, 951 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 3: so maybe the Lions aren't as bad as everyone thinks. 952 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 3: Maybe Dan Campbell's you know, kind of raw raw, you know, motivation, 953 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 3: kind of tactics is kind of working for the Lions. 954 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 3: So it's hard to really argue too much against the 955 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 3: Lions right now. But yeah, the Packers, I would think, 956 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 3: are angry. Now. I'm not never gonna handicap too much 957 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 3: based on what I assume someone's emotions are going to 958 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 3: be heading into a game, but they're either the number 959 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 3: one or number two scoring offense last year, they're going 960 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 3: up against what it's supposed well, they are the bad 961 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 3: defense because even though that game was closed to put 962 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 3: up a ton of points on them, correct, the green 963 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 3: Bay green Bay will score. It's is whether or not 964 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 3: are the lines going to be able to keep it 965 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 3: close enough during the game. So yeah, I will back 966 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 3: the Packers in this one, but I might need it. 967 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 3: I need it, might need to reevaluate some of my 968 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 3: pass picks because it could take it three double edgit 969 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 3: favorites makes me worry, but I like that freedom, so 970 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 3: I'll probably stick with them. 971 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the Packers either, ID saide. Oh 972 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: look see, this is a New York experience for you. 973 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: If everyone can hear that in the background, Ian has 974 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: moved to New York. It's fine, You're fine. They're not 975 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: there for you, I promise. Yeah, I missed my old sounds. 976 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 2: Of New York anyway. 977 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I agree with you that even at ten 978 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: and a half, I leaned towards the Packers. I'm actually 979 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: a little more excited about the total because I do 980 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: think that the Packers. First of all, the Lions have 981 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 1: terrible defense. I have a terrible secondary, and Jeff Okuda 982 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: now has I think an achilles injury. So a bad 983 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: secondary just gets worse. I think the Packers are going 984 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: to put up monstrous amount of points in this game. 985 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be ton and I think that 986 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: the Lions, I think they'll probably be able to do 987 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: close not what they did last time, but in terms 988 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: of the back door sort of like this game is over, 989 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: the Packers don't want to get injured on defense, They're 990 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: gonna step back a little bit. 991 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 2: There's gonna be forty five thousand. 992 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: Jump offs to Jamal Williams and DeAndre Swift and they'll 993 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: be able to get there. 994 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 2: So that actually is a number that I would bet. 995 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that it's necessarily going to climb throughout 996 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: the year, like I don't think throughout the week. I 997 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: don't think we're getting a fifty or fifty one. But 998 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: at the same time, forty eight and a half I 999 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: kind of lean the over because I view a lot 1000 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: of points. 1001 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: Coming in this game. What do you think of that? 1002 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, give me the over. I forevery I agree with 1003 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 3: every single point you had about the over. 1004 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 2: I love it. That's it. 1005 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: Those are all the games. Man, I'm so happy football 1006 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: is back. We are done recording this before we get 1007 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: to look idiotic after, you know, whatever happens with the 1008 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: Raiders in the Ravens game. But Ian, you have been 1009 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: a guest on the show several times. It is always 1010 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: a pleasure to have you. I really appreciate it. Tell 1011 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: everybody where they can find you and your work. 1012 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, the best place is always a Twitter. As 1013 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,479 Speaker 3: you mentioned at the start of the show, though there 1014 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 3: Ian mac Bett's I A I N M A C 1015 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 3: B E T s my parents out of the thrown 1016 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 3: extra eye into my name to make my life difficult. 1017 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 3: Also check out bet Sided and the Bacon Bets podcast 1018 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,959 Speaker 3: comes out Thursday, and that's when I give my pick. 1019 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 3: I call it the Road to two seventy two this 1020 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 3: year because I give a pick for every single all 1021 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy two NFL games. So keep an 1022 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 3: eye out for that. 1023 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 2: I mean I really look forward. 1024 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 1: I did see that you were doing that, because yeah, 1025 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 1: I think you have it pinned your Twitter profile. 1026 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 2: But man, God bless you good luck with it. 1027 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: I hope you again have a profitable year, because that 1028 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: is not easy anyway. We will be back later in 1029 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: the week Joe and Joe, Piece of P and Scott 1030 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: Bogmhen are going to do the college Football Breakdown, and 1031 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: then I'll be back on Thursday with another guest talking 1032 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 1: about our best bets for Week two. 1033 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 2: Of the NFL season. 1034 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in, everybody, and I'll talk to you 1035 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: again in a couple of days.