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Speaker 1: people that are here that can make a difference for

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00:24:24,956 --> 00:24:28,916
Speaker 1: this city. Even young white people who want to stay

421
00:24:28,956 --> 00:24:32,236
Speaker 1: here and have their families raced here cannot afford it,

422
00:24:32,996 --> 00:24:36,716
Speaker 1: let alone an immigrant person who you know already struggling.

423
00:24:36,796 --> 00:24:39,476
Speaker 1: So how can we retain young people in this city

424
00:24:39,676 --> 00:24:43,556
Speaker 1: if we are making a studio for seventeen hundred dollars. Yeah,

425
00:24:43,596 --> 00:24:45,596
Speaker 1: so I live in New York. I'm from Philadelphia originally,

426
00:24:46,156 --> 00:24:48,396
Speaker 1: and I had an MPR show for years and now

427
00:24:48,396 --> 00:24:51,076
Speaker 1: I'm working on this. But I'm at a point in

428
00:24:51,076 --> 00:24:52,236
Speaker 1: my life where I live in New York so long,

429
00:24:52,276 --> 00:24:53,836
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna be able to afford to buy anything

430
00:24:53,876 --> 00:24:56,756
Speaker 1: in New York. And I feel I don't party as

431
00:24:56,796 --> 00:24:58,476
Speaker 1: much as I used to, Like I don't need that

432
00:24:58,476 --> 00:25:01,916
Speaker 1: that thriving nightlife, And so when I dream of other

433
00:25:01,956 --> 00:25:04,476
Speaker 1: places to go, I have to meet Portland is a

434
00:25:04,556 --> 00:25:10,276
Speaker 1: plan B for me? Even better? It is even better.

435
00:25:10,596 --> 00:25:13,756
Speaker 1: How is that a bit cheaper than Portland? You're saying like,

436
00:25:13,876 --> 00:25:16,276
Speaker 1: maybe not go directly in the city but go adjacent

437
00:25:16,276 --> 00:25:18,756
Speaker 1: to it. Yes, yes, okay, but you would you would?

438
00:25:18,756 --> 00:25:20,596
Speaker 1: I be welcomed or would you be like, oh my god,

439
00:25:20,636 --> 00:25:23,316
Speaker 1: here's another white guy from the city. You will be

440
00:25:23,396 --> 00:25:26,916
Speaker 1: really welcome because we have people are really lovely here.

441
00:25:27,116 --> 00:25:29,596
Speaker 1: I mean you might have one person who's bad and

442
00:25:29,716 --> 00:25:32,596
Speaker 1: their voices are louder. Don't get me wrong, the good people,

443
00:25:32,636 --> 00:25:35,556
Speaker 1: their voices are lower. I heard you, and you're answering

444
00:25:35,596 --> 00:25:38,036
Speaker 1: the question. Earlier. You referred to yourself as a Maner.

445
00:25:38,436 --> 00:25:41,796
Speaker 1: You feel like a maner. Well, a lot of people

446
00:25:41,796 --> 00:25:44,956
Speaker 1: are preferring to ask new maners, So I kind of

447
00:25:45,036 --> 00:25:48,156
Speaker 1: challenge that. What does that mean? I don't even know

448
00:25:48,156 --> 00:25:50,556
Speaker 1: what that means. What does that mean? You know? Do

449
00:25:50,636 --> 00:25:53,636
Speaker 1: we call new Manners people coming from California or you know,

450
00:25:53,676 --> 00:25:57,236
Speaker 1: people coming from New York. Yeah, no, we don't. We

451
00:25:57,396 --> 00:26:01,476
Speaker 1: just stand that on a person who's coming from another country. Interesting,

452
00:26:01,556 --> 00:26:05,116
Speaker 1: so that is where these new Americans new Maners knew

453
00:26:05,196 --> 00:26:08,276
Speaker 1: whatever is coming from. But our friend of mine said,

454
00:26:08,316 --> 00:26:10,916
Speaker 1: I need to challenge that because I've been here twenty

455
00:26:11,116 --> 00:26:13,596
Speaker 1: five years. He said, I've been here what as soon

456
00:26:13,636 --> 00:26:16,316
Speaker 1: as I was ten? So am I a new Maner?

457
00:26:17,076 --> 00:26:20,276
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's interesting. It's an interesting question. You're saying.

458
00:26:20,316 --> 00:26:23,076
Speaker 1: The new manor label is usually used referred to this

459
00:26:23,796 --> 00:26:27,836
Speaker 1: immigrants or refugees, but not necessarily someone coming from Boston

460
00:26:27,956 --> 00:26:31,636
Speaker 1: or no, no, yeah, no, there are there any Uh,

461
00:26:31,916 --> 00:26:33,796
Speaker 1: sorry to mix up the high and the low, but

462
00:26:33,876 --> 00:26:36,596
Speaker 1: you're you've seemed very comfortable talking about everything. Are there

463
00:26:36,596 --> 00:26:38,996
Speaker 1: any like main habits, like they like, do you like

464
00:26:39,076 --> 00:26:41,396
Speaker 1: skiing or anything? Or hiking or things that you never

465
00:26:41,396 --> 00:26:43,476
Speaker 1: would have thought as as a young person in Somalia

466
00:26:43,596 --> 00:26:46,756
Speaker 1: or in Atlanta. Well, I would not hike. I would

467
00:26:46,836 --> 00:26:49,716
Speaker 1: not ski, I can tell you that right away. But

468
00:26:49,916 --> 00:26:51,876
Speaker 1: my kids did all of that. And it was so

469
00:26:51,916 --> 00:26:55,076
Speaker 1: funny you asked that question. I was in another meeting earlier,

470
00:26:55,996 --> 00:26:59,316
Speaker 1: and a community meeting, yeah, and one of our young

471
00:26:59,676 --> 00:27:02,516
Speaker 1: youth leaders who was talking about how she has a

472
00:27:02,596 --> 00:27:06,076
Speaker 1: hiking group of young people and I'm like, oh my god, okay,

473
00:27:06,156 --> 00:27:08,956
Speaker 1: do not break anything. And she's like, come on, Auntie,

474
00:27:08,916 --> 00:27:12,556
Speaker 1: I been hikinson as I was ten. Okay, we know

475
00:27:12,636 --> 00:27:14,956
Speaker 1: what we're doing. So a lot of kids are changing

476
00:27:14,996 --> 00:27:18,516
Speaker 1: that they're doing a lot of activities outdoors. Yeah, and

477
00:27:18,636 --> 00:27:20,956
Speaker 1: but the parents are not because we were not, you know,

478
00:27:21,236 --> 00:27:25,036
Speaker 1: raised in that. Yeah. Honestly, it was nice to know

479
00:27:25,116 --> 00:27:27,036
Speaker 1: that if I moved to Portland, I wouldn't be the

480
00:27:27,076 --> 00:27:29,516
Speaker 1: only one who sees hiking as a dangerous walk to nowhere.

481
00:27:30,196 --> 00:27:32,836
Speaker 1: I asked Decca if maybe dinner parties were more her style,

482
00:27:33,116 --> 00:27:44,196
Speaker 1: but she said she had plans that night. It was

483
00:27:44,236 --> 00:27:46,916
Speaker 1: time to pick up Danielle and head to the city's waterfront.

484
00:27:47,436 --> 00:27:50,316
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit Michelle up later. Do you might dinner

485
00:27:50,316 --> 00:27:55,916
Speaker 1: party thing? She said she would hang out. She seemed

486
00:27:55,956 --> 00:27:58,996
Speaker 1: really eager that the way the people are like, yeah,

487
00:27:59,036 --> 00:28:03,196
Speaker 1: they've definitely get together. No, she said it like she was.

488
00:28:04,036 --> 00:28:10,156
Speaker 1: I think she thought we were bringing good chill today.

489
00:28:10,356 --> 00:28:12,716
Speaker 1: Would you call it an imperfect storm and would call

490
00:28:12,756 --> 00:28:21,596
Speaker 1: it drizzle? I mean, I'll learned the position to bring

491
00:28:21,596 --> 00:28:24,036
Speaker 1: it back. You know, I think it's white people's saying.

492
00:28:24,076 --> 00:28:26,476
Speaker 1: I know, I think we killed was like, oh no,

493
00:28:26,596 --> 00:28:27,956
Speaker 1: we can. I think there's a list of where I

494
00:28:27,956 --> 00:28:30,756
Speaker 1: have a question that while we're on that topic on fleek,

495
00:28:31,476 --> 00:28:33,636
Speaker 1: what about it? Are you allowed to say that? You're

496
00:28:33,636 --> 00:28:37,516
Speaker 1: not allowed to say it? After spending our first day

497
00:28:37,556 --> 00:28:39,876
Speaker 1: in Mainland Portland, we thought we'd visit one of the

498
00:28:39,876 --> 00:28:49,236
Speaker 1: city's surrounding islands, going to Peak's Island. Okay, yes, okay,

499
00:28:49,276 --> 00:28:53,156
Speaker 1: and where is it? The department number five. Thank you,

500
00:28:53,876 --> 00:28:57,116
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot. It's crazy that here in the ferry

501
00:28:57,156 --> 00:29:01,676
Speaker 1: terminal the most prominent display our real estate boards because

502
00:29:01,716 --> 00:29:04,996
Speaker 1: it's people like you and I fantasizing. I guess that's

503
00:29:04,996 --> 00:29:08,356
Speaker 1: a good house lost. Whoa, I could really almost live here,

504
00:29:08,716 --> 00:29:11,196
Speaker 1: Really you can live on Peaks Island at least. I

505
00:29:11,236 --> 00:29:14,116
Speaker 1: don't think I could live here quite up, because it

506
00:29:14,156 --> 00:29:16,276
Speaker 1: reminds me of places I've already been. I know that

507
00:29:16,356 --> 00:29:18,396
Speaker 1: small town, small city life, and that's not what I'm

508
00:29:18,436 --> 00:29:23,036
Speaker 1: looking for right now. Yal boarding call Island a gay

509
00:29:23,116 --> 00:29:26,276
Speaker 1: number five. This is your first and vinal boarding call

510
00:29:26,436 --> 00:29:33,396
Speaker 1: pour Peaks Island only at gate number five Islands. Does

511
00:29:33,396 --> 00:29:36,276
Speaker 1: this count as an island if it's so close? Yeah,

512
00:29:36,316 --> 00:29:38,916
Speaker 1: I believe there's I've been under in the subway coming

513
00:29:39,036 --> 00:29:44,476
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn. Now this is it, Peaks Island. We're rolling up.

514
00:29:45,516 --> 00:29:51,996
Speaker 1: How do you do? I fancy Danielle. You're wearing an

515
00:29:52,076 --> 00:29:55,716
Speaker 1: umbrella hat. Yeah, and then you're wearing purple, a purple

516
00:29:56,276 --> 00:29:58,596
Speaker 1: polar pleece. Yeah. And what are these pants? These are

517
00:29:58,636 --> 00:30:01,716
Speaker 1: African pants and they actually have umbrellas on them, kind

518
00:30:01,756 --> 00:30:05,556
Speaker 1: of hidden in all this pattern. So this is the spot,

519
00:30:05,636 --> 00:30:10,876
Speaker 1: This is the museum so welcome to the world's only

520
00:30:10,956 --> 00:30:15,156
Speaker 1: umbrella cover museum, where you'll see there are hundreds, probably

521
00:30:15,196 --> 00:30:18,556
Speaker 1: about seven hundred umbrella covers on display in this little

522
00:30:18,556 --> 00:30:23,716
Speaker 1: tiny space. Wow. Nancy three Hoffman. How to describe her well,

523
00:30:24,036 --> 00:30:26,476
Speaker 1: She spells her middle name with the number three. That

524
00:30:26,556 --> 00:30:29,876
Speaker 1: should give you an idea. Nancy shows us around her museum,

525
00:30:30,036 --> 00:30:33,636
Speaker 1: which doesn't take long because it's one small room the

526
00:30:33,676 --> 00:30:37,156
Speaker 1: size of a closet. I'm imagine you collected umbrella covers

527
00:30:37,236 --> 00:30:40,676
Speaker 1: personally before you started displaying them exactly. I got curious

528
00:30:40,676 --> 00:30:44,476
Speaker 1: about umbrella covers after I cleaned out my house one

529
00:30:44,556 --> 00:30:47,596
Speaker 1: day and found some umbrella covers, and I just said

530
00:30:47,636 --> 00:30:50,516
Speaker 1: to myself, m do other people have the same problem,

531
00:30:50,876 --> 00:30:54,036
Speaker 1: which is, will I ever use these little things again?

532
00:30:54,276 --> 00:30:56,956
Speaker 1: Are they just too hard to get back on the

533
00:30:57,036 --> 00:31:00,596
Speaker 1: umbrella to even bother with? And if so, why were

534
00:31:00,636 --> 00:31:03,956
Speaker 1: they even created? I use my umbrella covers. Ah, You're

535
00:31:03,956 --> 00:31:07,596
Speaker 1: one of the twelve percent of people, Danielle. There are

536
00:31:07,796 --> 00:31:12,756
Speaker 1: very few people that actually conscientiously use their umbrella covers.

537
00:31:12,796 --> 00:31:15,356
Speaker 1: The thing I like to show people is our mission statement,

538
00:31:16,076 --> 00:31:20,396
Speaker 1: which is about appreciating the mundane, finding wonder and beauty

539
00:31:20,396 --> 00:31:22,996
Speaker 1: and the simplest of things and knowing that there is

540
00:31:23,036 --> 00:31:26,516
Speaker 1: always a story behind the cover. How many umbrella covers

541
00:31:26,516 --> 00:31:32,436
Speaker 1: do you have? I have two thousand cataloged umbrella covers

542
00:31:32,516 --> 00:31:34,396
Speaker 1: in this museum. More or less. Well, when I heard

543
00:31:34,396 --> 00:31:36,396
Speaker 1: about the museum, one of the things that attracted me

544
00:31:36,436 --> 00:31:39,036
Speaker 1: to it was this kind of My mind immediately went

545
00:31:39,076 --> 00:31:42,116
Speaker 1: to kind of zen Buddhism. And there's way more mundane

546
00:31:42,156 --> 00:31:45,756
Speaker 1: things that happened to us than epic big things. And

547
00:31:45,836 --> 00:31:47,836
Speaker 1: do you find that people come here sometimes with an

548
00:31:47,836 --> 00:31:56,996
Speaker 1: element of reverence or is it always whimsy? Mostly whimsy,

549
00:31:57,676 --> 00:32:01,196
Speaker 1: but in excitement, you know, enthusiasm, And it's hard to

550
00:32:01,236 --> 00:32:05,396
Speaker 1: say because people are touched. It's about attitude. I had

551
00:32:05,436 --> 00:32:09,516
Speaker 1: a friend who was very depressed and that mission statement

552
00:32:09,556 --> 00:32:12,236
Speaker 1: has helped her through some of her depressed times. Not

553
00:32:12,276 --> 00:32:14,476
Speaker 1: to be too grandiose about it, but but it is

554
00:32:14,516 --> 00:32:18,436
Speaker 1: about how appreciating the simple things as you were describing

555
00:32:18,836 --> 00:32:22,116
Speaker 1: can remind you that, yes, we have to plod through

556
00:32:22,356 --> 00:32:25,356
Speaker 1: some of these things in life, but we can take

557
00:32:25,356 --> 00:32:29,156
Speaker 1: a breath and enjoy any moment that we can. Just

558
00:32:29,396 --> 00:32:35,796
Speaker 1: let us smile. Your umbrella on a rainy, rainy day,

559
00:32:36,716 --> 00:32:41,516
Speaker 1: and yours, sweety Christ just tell her that a smile,

560
00:32:41,716 --> 00:32:46,956
Speaker 1: we'll always pay. So this case has some of our

561
00:32:46,996 --> 00:32:49,436
Speaker 1: most exciting umbrella covers in it. Is that made out

562
00:32:49,436 --> 00:32:54,476
Speaker 1: of candy? Yes, it's a gum rapper chain umbrella cover. Um,

563
00:32:54,596 --> 00:32:56,756
Speaker 1: I have a lot from England. I have some from

564
00:32:56,756 --> 00:32:59,476
Speaker 1: the Olympics team, Great Britain. Do you want to see

565
00:32:59,476 --> 00:33:01,876
Speaker 1: the sexy room. We'll just look at the sexy room,

566
00:33:02,316 --> 00:33:09,036
Speaker 1: you know? Okay, whoa it looks like look sexy sexy covers?

567
00:33:09,236 --> 00:33:15,196
Speaker 1: What is just a thong? What's it covered with? Oh?

568
00:33:15,596 --> 00:33:24,436
Speaker 1: Gon umbrellas? As Nancy played, it occurred to me that

569
00:33:24,476 --> 00:33:26,596
Speaker 1: the Museum of the Umbrella cover is one of those

570
00:33:26,676 --> 00:33:29,756
Speaker 1: warrens Michelle told us about a place where a passionate

571
00:33:29,836 --> 00:33:33,516
Speaker 1: enthusiast burrowed in and built their own little world. I'm

572
00:33:33,556 --> 00:33:36,276
Speaker 1: glad it exists, but it made me wonder whether I

573
00:33:36,316 --> 00:33:38,436
Speaker 1: was ready to park somewhere quiet and lose myself in

574
00:33:38,476 --> 00:33:42,316
Speaker 1: a project. Yeah, Broman School, how do you? How do

575
00:33:42,316 --> 00:33:44,556
Speaker 1: you feel about it? Could you live here? I'm still

576
00:33:44,596 --> 00:33:46,796
Speaker 1: on the fence. It's like Michelle was saying last night

577
00:33:46,876 --> 00:33:50,356
Speaker 1: about She mentioned how people stay in their little mouse

578
00:33:50,476 --> 00:33:53,276
Speaker 1: or wrap dens and warrens and don't come out like

579
00:33:53,316 --> 00:33:55,036
Speaker 1: I feel like I'd have to have a partner if

580
00:33:55,036 --> 00:33:56,556
Speaker 1: I want, if that's what I want in my life,

581
00:33:57,196 --> 00:34:00,036
Speaker 1: or a family already. I don't get me anybody here. Yeah,

582
00:34:00,116 --> 00:34:02,876
Speaker 1: not to that level. I don't know um And I

583
00:34:02,996 --> 00:34:05,556
Speaker 1: like knowing the vanguard about what's about to happen, and

584
00:34:05,596 --> 00:34:07,156
Speaker 1: I feel like here. It takes a while for that

585
00:34:07,236 --> 00:34:09,076
Speaker 1: to get up here. I don't know how I found

586
00:34:09,116 --> 00:34:10,476
Speaker 1: a place in my head as like a place I

587
00:34:10,476 --> 00:34:13,756
Speaker 1: could live an alternative life. Yeah, where did that come from?

588
00:34:13,796 --> 00:34:16,436
Speaker 1: There's so many cities between Portland and New York. I

589
00:34:16,476 --> 00:34:18,436
Speaker 1: just felt like doing. I grew up going summers in

590
00:34:18,476 --> 00:34:20,276
Speaker 1: Cape Cod and New England in general always had a

591
00:34:20,356 --> 00:34:23,436
Speaker 1: kind mellow vibe to me, and I guess I read

592
00:34:23,476 --> 00:34:25,916
Speaker 1: all the magazines about the food. Stuff kind of seemed cool.

593
00:34:26,436 --> 00:34:30,436
Speaker 1: I'm being honest, the food is incredible. Yeah. What is

594
00:34:30,436 --> 00:34:35,316
Speaker 1: that like a brick building in the middle of the water. Yeah,

595
00:34:35,196 --> 00:34:38,516
Speaker 1: it was kind of empty, and that's it's like an

596
00:34:38,556 --> 00:34:41,156
Speaker 1: old prison. Yeah, that'd be a dope house if I

597
00:34:41,156 --> 00:34:45,996
Speaker 1: could live there. I've here. While Danielle was inspired by

598
00:34:46,036 --> 00:34:48,556
Speaker 1: the house in the island, for me, it symbolized the

599
00:34:48,596 --> 00:34:52,076
Speaker 1: isolation I might feel if I lived here, people are

600
00:34:52,116 --> 00:34:54,636
Speaker 1: the thing I nerd out on, and for now I

601
00:34:54,676 --> 00:34:56,156
Speaker 1: want to be in a place where there are lots

602
00:34:56,156 --> 00:34:59,556
Speaker 1: of them, and I want to travel to meet even more. Traveling,

603
00:34:59,876 --> 00:35:06,116
Speaker 1: not burrowing, is where I'm at. Well, dinner parties are traveling. Well, dude,

604
00:35:06,156 --> 00:35:11,196
Speaker 1: we're going to a dinner party pizza party. All right.

605
00:35:11,476 --> 00:35:13,956
Speaker 1: We were going to a pizza party, but pizza's dinner,

606
00:35:14,076 --> 00:35:17,436
Speaker 1: so that makes it technically a dinner party. On the ferry,

607
00:35:17,596 --> 00:35:20,236
Speaker 1: I texted Michelle from the bookstore and asked if she

608
00:35:20,316 --> 00:35:22,436
Speaker 1: was still game to host a gathering with us that night,

609
00:35:22,636 --> 00:35:25,396
Speaker 1: And so Danielle wouldn't think I was being pushy, I said,

610
00:35:25,436 --> 00:35:31,436
Speaker 1: we'd supply the food party. Pizza party. Remember that commercial.

611
00:35:31,676 --> 00:35:35,116
Speaker 1: It was like a board game that pizza parties, no party.

612
00:35:35,236 --> 00:35:37,036
Speaker 1: My grandma would by it. So I just rememberize yourself

613
00:35:37,116 --> 00:35:40,356
Speaker 1: like a pizza party. See if I can pull up

614
00:35:40,396 --> 00:35:42,196
Speaker 1: it was a board game called pizza Party. Yeah, at

615
00:35:42,276 --> 00:35:55,516
Speaker 1: least I can pull up the commercial part pizza party.

616
00:35:55,836 --> 00:36:09,196
Speaker 1: That's your pizza. You can't see pizza party, party, Pizza Party.

617
00:36:09,636 --> 00:36:11,876
Speaker 1: That song always gives me like it's my pop up channel.

618
00:36:11,916 --> 00:36:22,556
Speaker 1: Listen to at the gym Our party consisted of Michelle

619
00:36:22,716 --> 00:36:26,756
Speaker 1: and her husband, Tristan. We brought some pizza, beer, We

620
00:36:26,836 --> 00:36:30,076
Speaker 1: brought some such an inviting store, and the setting couldn't

621
00:36:30,076 --> 00:36:31,876
Speaker 1: be more in keeping with the nerd team that was

622
00:36:31,916 --> 00:36:34,836
Speaker 1: emerging in Portland. We were in Tristan's comic book shop.

623
00:36:35,996 --> 00:36:38,316
Speaker 1: I like comic shops that make people feel like we

624
00:36:38,436 --> 00:36:42,236
Speaker 1: don't have to be an ultimate geek already. The store

625
00:36:42,436 --> 00:36:46,236
Speaker 1: is a cavernous, high ceiling geek valhalla filled Florida roof

626
00:36:46,316 --> 00:36:50,796
Speaker 1: with comic books, horror movie ephemera on pinball machines. My

627
00:36:50,996 --> 00:36:54,836
Speaker 1: ex husband and I met on a Delphi comic book forum.

628
00:36:55,076 --> 00:36:58,076
Speaker 1: Danielle is on cloud nine. She and Tristan hit it

629
00:36:58,116 --> 00:37:02,156
Speaker 1: off like Yoda and Batman. Anyway, they got along and

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Speaker 1: I wasn't bored, just taking in Michelle and Tristan's habitat

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Speaker 1: for so glad that you guys came here. We finally

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Speaker 1: letting us have a little pizza party your Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was great. So their video games back here, we should

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Speaker 1: just play them, Daniel, do you want to play around

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Speaker 1: Zina eight around? Well, we'll take Terry. Portland has been

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Speaker 1: great to us. Perhaps part of the reason travel is

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Speaker 1: so intoxicating is that it allows us to fantasize about

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Speaker 1: a different life, and in the case of me in Portland,

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Speaker 1: it's a different life. I really thought about leading, but

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Speaker 1: Plan b's, it seems, are like mirages. They disappear as

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Speaker 1: you're approach them. That doesn't mean they don't have a role.

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Speaker 1: They can act as kind of release valves that lower

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Speaker 1: the pressure on our actual lives. But it means that

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Speaker 1: once you visit and you return home, you're left only

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Speaker 1: with that actual life, your Plan A, and of that

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Speaker 1: you can be foschism in Nizzle, I think I used

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Speaker 1: that right. The lead producer on this episode of Not

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Speaker 1: Loss was the talented Tally Abacasas. The show was also

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Speaker 1: produced and written by me Brendan Francis Newnham. Our associate

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Speaker 1: producer was Jackson Musker. Special editorial guidance came from Mira

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Speaker 1: Bert Wintock. The show was mixed and mastered by Hannas Brown.

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Speaker 1: A big thanks to my friend and this episode's travel partner,

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Speaker 1: Danielle Henderson. Go check out her book The Ugly Cry

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Speaker 1: Not Lost. As a co production of Pushkin Industries, Topic

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Speaker 1: Studios and iHeartMedia, it was developed at Topic Studios and

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Speaker 1: the show's executive producers are me Christy Gressman, Maria Zuckerman,

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Speaker 1: Lisa Langang, and Latom Mulotte. Production assistance on this episode

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Speaker 1: also came from Jacob Smith, Amy Gaines and Julia Barton.

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Speaker 1: Our theme song was created by Alexis Trojopolis aka ARP.

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Speaker 1: You can check out his music at Mexican Summer Records.

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Speaker 1: And thanks to everyone in Portland, especially Poet Laureatesteve Latreelle,

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Speaker 1: Tom Begley and ll bean By Brendan Dobbelganger at Coffee

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Speaker 1: by Design, Nancy three Hoffman and Decca Delac who I'm

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Speaker 1: happy to say recently got a promotion. She's now the

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Speaker 1: mayor of South Portland. Hope I'm still invited to visit.

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Speaker 1: And a big thanks to our pizza party host Tristan

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Speaker 1: Gallagher and Michelle Soulier. Check out Tristan spot Co City Comics,

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Speaker 1: and you can buy Michelle's books the ones she wrote

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Speaker 1: Strange Maine and Bigfoot in Maine, as well as many

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Speaker 1: other fine publications at her own bookstore, The Green Hand Bookshop.

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Speaker 1: Please go support your local booksellers people, or in this case,

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Speaker 1: support you know the local bookseller in Portland. Oh. And

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Speaker 1: speaking of support, please head to Apple Podcasts, go rate

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Speaker 1: and review the show. I know you hear it a lot,

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Speaker 1: but it's real. Learn more about Topic Studios at topic

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Speaker 1: studios dot com. To find more Pushkin podcasts, listen on

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Speaker 1: I'm Brendan Francis, Newnham. Until next time, bon voyage