1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Monday edition of Fair Territory. I'm 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal, and needless to say, it has been a 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: crazy season, a crazy season to say the least, and 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: now it is reaching its climax in these final few weeks. 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: And I want to talk about the latest craziness in 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: the first segment this morning, and it kind of relates 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: to a tweet that Alden Gonzalez of ESPN had a 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: few days ago and the theme of this season. Alden 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: summed it up really well, just when I think a 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: team is good, it's bad. Just when I think a 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: team is bad, it's good. This is baseball in twenty 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: twenty five. That post by Alden kind of inspired what 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: I wrote today in The Athletic, a column about fifteen 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: teams and basically telling fans of each of those teams, listen, 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: if you think you have it bad, it could be worse, 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: because every team seems to be going through a phase 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: or has gone through a phase in which they have 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: their fans pulling their hair out, exasperated, frustrated, infuriated with 19 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: the way their teams are playing. And there's the Columny 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 1: seat right there. It's upright now, and let's start today 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: with the NL West, because there is a division that 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: we all thought was going to be this incredible powerhouse 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: and it really isn't turning out quite that way. The 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: team that is ruining baseball the Los Angeles Dodgers. On Saturday, 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: what happened to the Los Angeles Dodgers. They were no 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: hit by the last place Orioles for eight and two 27 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: thirds innings. They had a win probability at that point 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: of ninety nine point five percent, a three to nothing lead, 29 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: and they lost the game. And this was obviously the 30 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: extreme example of essentially a season long pattern for the Dodgers, 31 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: but one that really since early July has been a 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: huge issue. They are nine games under five hundred since 33 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: July third, nine games under. The operating premise of this 34 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: team all season has seen to be we'll turn it 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: on at the right time. Well, guess what they've already 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: cost themselves a buye in the postseason. Most likely they're 37 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: not getting one. The Brewers and the Phillies are in 38 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: commanding position for that buy now. Granted anything can happen. 39 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 1: The deficit to the Phillies from the Dodgers is four 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: and a half games. It's not over but it's not 41 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: looking good. And there's Sarah Lang's with her classic wei 42 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: on what happened Saturday night. The Dodgers have a bullpen 43 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: that leads the major leagues in blown safe I know 44 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: that's not an entirely telling metric, but it's a pretty 45 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: good one when it comes to the Dodgers. They had 46 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: another one, of course Saturday. They went one in five 47 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: this week last week in Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Pittsburgh and 48 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: Baltimore two last place teams. Granted, the Oriols have played 49 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: a lot better in the last three months, but they're 50 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: still in last place. They're still not the team that 51 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: they thought they would be. So that's the Dodgers in 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: the NL West, and then they were the Padres. Now 53 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: the Padres. All Boll saluted them for winning the trade deadline, 54 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: and they did that. Aj Peller, their general managers, seemed 55 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: to fill every one of their needs. I loved what 56 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: he did. Most fans did as well, just because he 57 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: was so aggressive and did so much well since the deadline. 58 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: What are the Padres? Eighteen and sixteen, just two games 59 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: over five hundred and it took two wins over Colorado 60 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: at Corusfield this weekend to get to two games over 61 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: five hundred. Their offense is enigmatic. As I wrote today, 62 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: they're starting pitching is problematic. Their bullpen is down Jason 63 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: Adam now still one of the best bullpens in baseball, 64 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: and they're likely going to need to overtake the Dodgers 65 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: in the National League West, where they trailed by one game, 66 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: to avoid playing a road series in the wildcard round. 67 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: And that's important for the Padres because they draw such 68 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: energy from their fans at home. So that's just the 69 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: NLS where kind of wacky things are going on. It's 70 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: not just in the NLS where we have this kind 71 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: of commotion. The AL wildcard race two weeks ago, it 72 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: wasn't a race at all. I believe, on this show 73 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: or one of the others, I proclaim that, you know what, 74 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: season's kind of a bummer. We already know who the 75 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: twelve playoff teams are, and at that point it appeared 76 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: pretty much set. Well. The Seattle Mariners have opened this 77 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: thing wide open again. Now let's look at the ALE 78 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: wildcard standings. Right here you see the Yankees in Red Sox. 79 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: They're in commanding position. Good week for the Yankees, four 80 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: and two against two first place teams, the Astros and 81 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: Blue Jays. See the Red Sox, they're kind of a 82 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: difficult series in Arizona, but they're in good shape even 83 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: without Rome and Anthony as far as the standings are concerned. 84 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: And then the Mariners. The Mariners, a team that has 85 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: missed the postseason by one game each of the last 86 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: two years. Here they are ten and one after the deadline, 87 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: actually starting July thirty first, so ten and one from 88 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: that point. They then go into IS six and fifteen 89 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: RUT six and fifteen, and that opened this thing wide open. 90 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: As I said before for those other teams in the mix, 91 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: Let's look at those standings one more time, and I 92 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: want to show you exactly what I'm talking about. The Mariners. Yes, 93 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: they still leave the wildcard by a game and a 94 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: half over the Rangers, two over the Royals, two and 95 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: a half over the Guardians. It's a cushion. It's somewhat 96 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: of a commanding cushion given how much time is remaining 97 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: in this season, but it's not a total cushion. And yes, 98 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: they won two games in Atlanta, two routes to go 99 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: back home now and hopefully get their acts together, but 100 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: this is a race that again should not have been 101 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: a race. Now this week we've got Kansas City in Cleveland. 102 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: That's a big series in the wildcard picture, of course, 103 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: and Kansas City also has one more series against the 104 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: Mariners that's obviously going to be a big series, and 105 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: I believe that is next week in Kansas City. So 106 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: the Oils kind of have to hold serve over the 107 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 1: next six games on the road, and then I believe 108 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: they're on the road, don't quote me on that, but 109 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: then they have Seattle and that will be if they 110 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: are still right where they need to be, a very 111 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: telling series for them Texas. I saw them this weekend. 112 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: They're an intriguing team because they're without many of their 113 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: top players Nathan Avaldi, Corey Seger, Marcus Simmi and Adolice Garcia. 114 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: They've got a bunch of guys I wouldn't call them 115 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: casts off, more journeyman types who are helping them win 116 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: right now, Cody Freeman and Michael Hellman. It's kind of 117 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: an amazing run that they're on, but good for them. 118 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: They've done a really good job just kind of staying 119 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: in this race after an incredibly difficult and frustrating season 120 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: because their offense is underperformed. So those are the two 121 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: races that perhaps are most intriguing right now. And then 122 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: we have another development in baseball. This is the development 123 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: we always seem to have, and that is, of course, 124 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: the injuries that continue to take place. Seasons still going, 125 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: We're gonna still have injuries, and I just mentioned Seeger 126 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: that's one of them. Emergency apendectomy on August twenty eighth. 127 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: They're expecting him back, maybe even back next week, so 128 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: that would be a huge boost for them. They're also 129 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: expecting Adolis Garcia to come back. Simeon and Valdi the 130 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: chances of them returning are remote, at least according to 131 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: club officials. But on Sunday we had two other significant injuries. 132 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: Now we're waiting to hear just on the extent of them. 133 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: Trede Turner with the Phillies suffered a right hamstring strain 134 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: running up the first base line. He's seeing a doctor today. 135 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: Trey Turner has kind of gone under the radar this year. 136 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: You see Jason Stark's tweet right there. He is fourth 137 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: in the National League fourth, I'm sorry, fourth in the 138 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: major leagues in Fangraff's version of war. He's fourth, behind 139 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: only Aaron Judge, cal Raley and Bobby Wick Junior. He's 140 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: had an amazing year. The Phillies obviously need him. The 141 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: only good news here is if he indeed has a 142 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: hamstring injury, and maybe it's a couple of weeks, that's okay. 143 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: The Phillies are in commanding position in the Analyt East 144 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: over the Mets. They're in commanding position for a buye. 145 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: They should be okay if he needs nearly a month 146 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: before the playoffs to get ready. So that's Trey Turner. 147 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: Daniel Palencia, the Cub's closer. He has a right shoulder issue. 148 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: Came out of the game yesterday with tightness in that 149 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: right shoulder. Now that's an issue for the Cubs. Obviously, 150 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: he's been really good for them. They also have injury questions, 151 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: minor stuff, it seems, with Kyle Tucker and Pete crow Armstrong. 152 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: Clearly they need to be healthy to be the kind 153 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: of team that they want to be. And as I 154 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: wrote about them today, for all that they have disappointed 155 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: in some ways after that great first half, still have 156 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: the third best record in the National League. They've still 157 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: got a really good regular season, but they need their 158 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: players obviously, and then Bobby with junior. Bobby with junior 159 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: back spasms missed the last two games for the Kansas 160 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: City Royals. Now we all know the meaning of Bobbywood 161 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: Junior to that franchise. He is their best player. He's 162 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: one of the best all around players in the sport. 163 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: And for them to somehow steal this wild card from Seattle, 164 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: they're going to need Bobbywood Junior healthy. There's not much 165 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: doubt about that. I don't believe I am going too 166 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: far out on a limb there. 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But 197 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: this week, as I mentioned at the end of the 198 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: first segment, I'd like to talk about my memories of 199 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: Davy Johnson, who passed away on Saturday. Davey had a long, 200 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: rich baseball life as a player, and I don't know 201 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: that a lot of fans realize this fans today. He 202 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: was really good. Four time All Star, three time goal 203 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: Glove winner at second base, two time World Series champion 204 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Orioles nineteen sixty six and nineteen seventy 205 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: and as a manager, he is best known as the 206 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: leader of the swashbuckling nineteen eighty six World Series champion 207 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: New York Mets. And that was the team that defined 208 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: him and he defined them as well. Now, he is 209 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: a guy who was really smart. He was doing analytics 210 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: thirty years before anyone had even heard of analytics. He 211 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: took a computer course at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore 212 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: when he was playing for the Orioles and created formulas 213 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: where he would do this to create the optimal batting 214 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: orders for the Orioles. Now, Earl Weaver didn't listen to him, 215 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: but Davey was ahead of his time. Now, I covered 216 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: only a small slice of his career. When he was 217 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: manager of the Oriols in nineteen ninety six and ninety seven, 218 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: I was a sports columnist for the Baltimore Sun, a 219 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: general columnist, so I covered mostly baseball because the Ravens 220 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: had just started in Baltimore at that time, but also 221 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: college basketball and football and whatever else. But again the 222 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: focus was mostly baseball. Now Davy would go on to 223 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: manage the Dodgers and Nationals after that. But those two 224 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: years when he was with the Orioles, they made the 225 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: playoffs both years. They were among the most memorable years 226 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: of my career, and it was because in large part 227 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: he was the manager. He was a total character. He 228 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: was a different guy. And the thing that struck me 229 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: most about Davy from the start, compared to other managers 230 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: I had covered with the Orioles, and by that time 231 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: it had been ten years and I had covered quite 232 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: a few managers, he had a confidence about him that 233 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: was really unparalleled, and I don't see it in many 234 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: managers today the way I saw it in him. Some 235 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: would call it cocky, but he was really kind. Now. 236 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: I told this story on Fox on Saturday during our 237 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: broadcast when we had our memories of Davy, and the 238 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: story goes back to Chicago, April of nineteen ninety seven. 239 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: I believe freezing night at the New Komiski whatever it's called, 240 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: now guaranteed raid field. And at the end of the game, 241 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: Davy Johnson is in his office. He's still shivering. He 242 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: had made a decision that night. I can't remember exactly 243 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: the details, but the Oriols had kind of a closer 244 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: controversy going on Amando Bernitez Raddy Myers, and that night 245 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: Davy chose the one we thought he wouldn't choose as writers, 246 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: so we could shuffle into his office at the end 247 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: of the game. As I said, he's still shivering, and 248 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: he opens the conversation not with hey, you guys, got 249 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: any questions or just ask away. He kind of gives 250 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: us a little lecture and he says, hey, I know 251 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: you guys. And when they say you guys, and there 252 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: are women too involved, but it's always you guys. You 253 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: guys means the writers, and it's not said usually very nicely. 254 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: You guys were up there in the box. Second guess 255 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: in my you know what and I don't care. I'm 256 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: the manager, I'm the one making all the money and 257 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: I do whatever I darn please. That was Davy and 258 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: by then, well, I guess we had some questions, but 259 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: really what can you ask at that point. That was 260 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: Davy Johnson and again he was not afraid of anyone, 261 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: and the Oriols during those two years ninety six ninety seven, 262 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: in my estimation, since I started covering the sport in 263 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven, they were never bigger than they were 264 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: then in terms of where they were in the sport, 265 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: where they placed themselves in the sport. They had some 266 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: outstanding players, of course, Ripken, Palmero or Alamar. They had 267 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame general manager and Pat Gillick. Camden 268 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: Yards was full every night, it was alive. And again 269 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: he was a big part of that. If you might 270 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: remember he was named that manager of the year in 271 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven. He was feuding with Peter Angelos. He 272 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: resigned the day he was named the manager of the year. 273 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: On the conference call with the right he said, Hey, 274 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm looking for a job, but he knew anywhere I 275 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: can go. It was hilarious. So that's part of what 276 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: I remember about Davy. But just from a personal level 277 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: covering him now, as I said, he wasn't afraid of anyone. 278 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: He'd take on anyone, didn't really think anything of it. 279 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: He had a nickname for me, but it wasn't even 280 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: a nickname because I wasn't sure he knew my name, 281 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: and what he called me was Mike, and I never 282 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: could figure out why. And Joe Strauss, the late Joe Strauss, 283 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: who covered the team with me in ninety seven, he 284 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: was the beat writer, Buster only was the beat writer 285 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: in ninety six. Joe delighted in this that he would 286 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: call me Mike, and I could never figure out why. 287 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: The only thing I could think of was that I 288 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: was the calmest in town. Along with John Eisenberg. We 289 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: had only one paper at that point, and Davy probably 290 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: thought I was trying to be like Mike Lupeka in 291 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: New York, which I couldn't be. There was only one 292 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: Mike Lupica. But I thought that was his way of 293 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: jabbing me. Now. I never asked him, Hey, why are 294 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: you calling me Mike. I just kind of let him 295 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: do it. But I knew he knew my name because 296 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: one day, when he was upset with me, slammed his 297 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: desk and said, damn it, Kenny. So I kind of 298 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: figured out he knew what was going on. Now in 299 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: a bigger sense with regard to the team, as I 300 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: said there were no sacred cows. And at that point, 301 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: Cal Ripken in nineteen ninety six was a thirty five 302 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: year old shortstop. They really didn't have defensive metrics then, 303 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: really to the level that we have now, if at all. 304 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: Cal was slowing down at shortstop as a thirty five 305 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: year old would, and Davy wanted to look at a 306 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: kid named Manny Alexander, and I believe the front office 307 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: did as well. Many Alexander was a gifted fielder, at 308 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: least from the Dominican Republic, a young guy at that point, 309 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: and while Cal was slowing down at shortstop, Davy also 310 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: wanted to reduce his grip on the team as a whole. 311 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: Cal's grip. Cal under the previous manager, Phil Reagan, had 312 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: changed cutoffs and relays in spring training. Reagan tried to 313 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: do one thing Cal wanted to do another. Cal would 314 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: call pitches from shortstop. He was an incredibly influential player 315 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: for good reason. He was also the smartest player on 316 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: the field. But in some opinions with the Orioles, some 317 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: people with the Oriols, they thought maybe he was going 318 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: too far, so Davy wanted to cut him down. That 319 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: was part of this well, the Manny Alexander experiment didn't work. 320 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: It lasted only six games, but the issue persisted. Cal 321 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: moved back to shortstoff for the rest of ninety six, 322 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: and then at the end of ninety six, in the 323 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: American League Championship series against the Yankees, the late Joe Morgan, 324 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: calling the games I believe it was for NBC, kind 325 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: of took exception with the way Cal was playing. He 326 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: pointed out one play in particular, the cow should have 327 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: made he didn't make. And I remember at the end 328 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: of that series, I called Cal and I wanted to 329 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: discuss that with him, and he explained that one of 330 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: the plays, I believe the play that Morgan highlighted most 331 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: there was this really fast kid, a right handed hitter 332 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: who had just entered the league, and hey, his speed 333 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: was the reason that Cal didn't make the play. That 334 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: kid was Derek Jeter. Anyway, end of that season, the 335 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: Oils signed Mike Bordick, and Mike Bordick, of course, was 336 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: a really good defensive shortstop. He was not Manny Alexander. 337 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: He was an established player, and at that point Cal 338 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: could accept what was going on. He could understand that 339 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: he had to move to third base, and he did, 340 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: and he played a really good third base for the 341 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: rest of his career. But I'll always remember that. I 342 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: always remember Davy kind of tweaking Cal and kind of 343 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: showing who was boss. For lack of a better term, 344 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: I don't know that Cal took too kindly to it. 345 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: He certainly didn't take too kindly to being taken off 346 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 1: short from Manny Alexander, because again, Manny Alexander was not 347 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: an established player. So to sum it up, I sort 348 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: of had to laugh because while Saturday it was an 349 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: incredibly sad day we lost Davy, it almost seemed to 350 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: me that on the thirtieth anniversary of the celebration of 351 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: Cal's streak, the record breaking night when he broke lu 352 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: Gerrig's record, that was the day Davy passed. And it 353 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: almost seemed like one of these things in life that happens. 354 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: He was tweaking Cal one more time. Hey man, it's 355 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: your day, but you know, here we go. Anyway, it 356 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: was just a thought that came to my mind, not 357 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: necessarily appropriate, but I want to wish Davy's family, his wife, Susan, 358 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: and everyone else's family all the best. Were thinking to Davy. 359 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: He was a legend. He was a blast to cover. 360 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: He was one of the influential figures in the game. 361 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: He had a tremendous career as a player and a manager. 362 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: Davey Johnson rest in peace. 363 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 2: We spend a lot of time on the road. We 364 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: are often concerned about our online security when you're logging 365 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: in from all over the globe. 366 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 1: Really, so you should maybe look into a VPN. 367 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 2: What does that stand for? 368 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: Crats Virtual Private network? 369 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: Boom nailed it, And that virtual private network that you 370 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: should look into is called surf Shark. 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They're really terrible at the 389 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: start of the season because it never turns out the 390 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: way we think. I had the Rangers and the Braves 391 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: had that work out for me. If I had to 392 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: pick right now, who would I pick? I would say 393 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: Phillies and Blue Jays. And I don't want to discount 394 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: the Brewers because I do believe the Brewers have a shot, 395 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: and I'm worried about the blue Jays bullpen obviously, but 396 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: the American League is a total free for all. I 397 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: have no idea what's going to happen the Tigers. I 398 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: can see them winning too, but I'll go Phillies and 399 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: Blue Jays right now. Rematch of what was that nineteen 400 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: ninety three? All right? Next question, let's see what we 401 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: got here. This one comes from foul territory. Who asked 402 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: or which asks? Has Hunter Brown made the al Cy 403 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: Young a two horse race. I don't know that I 404 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: would go that far just yet, but Scooba leads league 405 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: and two point one zero, Hunter Brown is next to 406 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: two point twenty five, and then you've got Crochet at 407 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: two point sixty seven. Schoolble to me is the runaway 408 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: winner here. He not only leads in the ERA, which 409 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: is just one metric, it's not the sole measure here. 410 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: He also leads in strikeout rate, strikeout to walk rate, 411 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: whip pretty much everything that you would want your guy 412 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: to lead in now. Hunter Brown is interesting because Hunter 413 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: Brown has had a season that has not gotten as 414 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: much attention as Garrett Crochet's, but he has been really, 415 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: really good outside of three starts in July when he 416 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: dipped a little bit, it's been outstanding and as I said, 417 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: second in the league in ERA right now, he's going 418 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: to finish in the top three. And if he finishes 419 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: in the top three, at least the way it appears 420 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 1: right now, he will finish in the top three. Then 421 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: the Astros get a pick because of the Prospect Promotion 422 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: Incentive program, a pick after the first round so this 423 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: has a lot of meaning to the Astros. Crochet has 424 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: been outstanding all years as well. I can see him 425 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: finishing second and Brown third, or depending upon how the 426 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: final few weeks ago the other way around, one way 427 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: or the other. It seems to me that's your top 428 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: three for the American League. Cy Young, all right, next question, 429 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: what do we have here? This comes from Armand who asked, Ken, 430 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: did you watch Mets rookie's starting pitcher, Brandon Sprot's debut 431 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: yesterday and what did you think? I did look, or 432 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: did watch a little bit of that, and I was impressed. 433 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: All I had heard about from reading about the Mets 434 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: the last few weeks was that Jonahtang and Nolan mcclan 435 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: had kind of passed Sprote as a prospect or had 436 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: better years. At least I don't know that they've passed him. 437 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: And watching Sproke yesterday, he looked really good. Stuff was good, 438 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: stuff was down, and I know at the start of 439 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: this outing it was really good. And then he allowed 440 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: three straight hits after retiring, I believe the first nineteen 441 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: something along those lines. He looked good. Now I touched 442 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: on the Mets in my column today three rookie starters 443 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 1: in the postseason. I'm not saying they're going to do that, 444 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: but the possibility would certainly appear to exist. It's happened 445 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: only a couple of times. It would seem to me 446 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: to be a stretch. They need to get Peterson going again, 447 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: and I don't know that you can start three rookies. 448 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: But my goodness, McClain is extremely talented. He is a 449 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: guy that has presence. His stuff is crazy to me. 450 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: He looks like the real deal. Tong is a kid, 451 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: He's got some growing to do, obviously, but extremely talented 452 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: as well. And then sprote joining that group and listen 453 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: for the future. It looks great, and it might even 454 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: be that the present is going to require those three 455 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: guys as well. All right, let's see what we have 456 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: of anything else. I don't believe we do have anything else. 457 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna close it out, then close out 458 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: this version of our show. This is the Monday version 459 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: of Foul Territory or Fair Territory. We will be back Thursday, 460 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: as we always are, the live show of Fair Territory, 461 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: myself with my co host Alana Rizzo. Have a great week, everyone, 462 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: and I hope your favorite team doesn't drive you to nuts, swing. 463 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 2: Big on your next MLB parlay. Use this parlay boost 464 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 2: token to score a bigger payout. 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