Speaker 1: Hey there, Fanarritos, Welcome back to How Rude Tanertos. Today,
Speaker 1: one of Fullhouse's most iconic guest stars is joining us.
Speaker 1: We have wit Hertford aka duck Face with us on
Speaker 1: the podcast. Duckface's signature look arguably started a movement that
Speaker 1: still floods our Instagram feeds to this day.
Speaker 2: It's true, it all started here.
Speaker 3: It's a legendary look.
Speaker 1: We can't wait to talk to wit about his time
Speaker 1: on Full House and the other incredible projects he was
Speaker 1: a part of. Please put your hands together for Wit.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 4: I'm so old. I'm so old that I'm literally doing
Speaker 4: this off like the desktop screen top and the oh
Speaker 4: like I'm eighty.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, you're in the right place. We are.
Speaker 5: We really discuss every time on this show how old
Speaker 5: we feel because technology is not our strong suit and
Speaker 5: uh yeah it's you.
Speaker 4: I try not to let that cat out of the bag,
Speaker 4: like I really try to take it. I'm like, no,
Speaker 4: I'm super good at it, right, I'm really really, really right,
Speaker 4: because I don't want anybody to like I think he's lying.
Speaker 5: Well, we're also trained as actors, you know, to put
Speaker 5: it on your special skills. Yes, I fire juggling, totally
Speaker 5: done it make it work.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So we're like, yeah, technology, I'm great. I mean, what's happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just watched your episode.
Speaker 1: We just watched your episode last night, the first one
Speaker 1: we're introduced, and oh.
Speaker 3: My gosh, Yeah, you are just a vision.
Speaker 1: You are a vision in your color blocking that outfit,
Speaker 1: oh the sweater.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We we make fun of ourselves a lot, and.
Speaker 3: It's just giving Willy Wonka a little bit.
Speaker 4: It's really good wardrobe.
Speaker 2: Isn't it great?
Speaker 5: The glasses, the corduroy pants. I mean I could hear
Speaker 5: him from I could hear him from here.
Speaker 4: It was good.
Speaker 5: And did they have a It looked like they had
Speaker 5: a patch on them. Did they have a patch on
Speaker 5: them or were they like cargo corduroy.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'd have to look at a photo.
Speaker 5: I know, because there was like on the side of
Speaker 5: them there was I was like, oh, is that a patch?
Speaker 5: And I was like, is that Like are we trying
Speaker 5: to show that maybe Walter like maybe doesn't have well
Speaker 5: or that maybe he doesn't have a lot of money,
Speaker 5: and so like that's part of it, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean?
Speaker 2: Like maybe his answer it.
Speaker 4: Was poorly, poorly last were right?
Speaker 5: Like I didn't know that, or if it was just
Speaker 5: a fashion choice or just something on my screen.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It could have been any of those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you were history is at all. I really would
Speaker 4: have loved if we met mom and dad duck.
Speaker 3: Face, mister and missus Duckface.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the senior duck Face.
Speaker 3: And why are his lips stuck in that position? I
Speaker 3: want to know that who knows? Who knows that?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: Like sort of like my like classical training.
Speaker 4: Later in life, I would have asked all of these questions,
Speaker 4: but at ten, I was just sort of like I'm.
Speaker 3: On TV, right, Yes, the same, It's all the same.
Speaker 3: I just did the thing like this is fun. Now
Speaker 3: win's lunch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: So let's go let's go back back back because we
Speaker 5: want to talk to you obviously about like your first
Speaker 5: appearance as Duckface, but I mean you've you and your
Speaker 5: your siblings have been actors and in the business for
Speaker 5: quite a long time.
Speaker 2: How old were you when you started acting?
Speaker 4: The first thing I ever did was that four we
Speaker 4: had moved here. My dad got a job at pepper
Speaker 4: Dye teaching. He's a theater director and I auditioned like
Speaker 4: crazy and did all the normal stuff, did the headshots,
Speaker 4: and I think I had business cards with like an
Speaker 4: ice cream cone that was falling, like really really cringe.
Speaker 4: But it was a care Bear shoe commercial. It was
Speaker 4: remember those remember this is how old we are too,
Speaker 4: by the way, guys remember those shoe stores called Buster Brown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was.
Speaker 4: Like a copro with Buster Brown and care Bears and
Speaker 4: I was in a commercial with that, so I had
Speaker 4: to like imagine care Bears and that was my first,
Speaker 4: my first thing, and I remembered it. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: I think it was good that it was my first
Speaker 4: thing because it was fun and it was a little weird.
Speaker 3: So was this your choice to begin?
Speaker 1: I get four, I don't know how much choice you
Speaker 1: have to be like I'm going to be an actor?
Speaker 3: Oh no to your parents pushing you or.
Speaker 2: This was all you?
Speaker 4: Yeah no, I was precocious as hell, and like because
Speaker 4: my parents' ractors, it just felt like, well, this is
Speaker 4: what we do. This isn't our DNA. Thankfully, like in
Speaker 4: a big sweeping sort of overview, you know, my parents,
Speaker 4: especially my mom because she kind of raised this as
Speaker 4: a single parent for majority of my life kept us
Speaker 4: in public school. We didn't live in the city and
Speaker 4: that was crucial. We lived in a Goora before it
Speaker 4: was like Bougie and Erowong, when it was like Tumbleweeds,
Speaker 4: and so that was cool because it was the beach
Speaker 4: and it was horses, and it was public school. And
Speaker 4: I think without that I would have been in a
Speaker 4: lot of trouble. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think all three of us kind of had
Speaker 5: that experience. We did like regular school, and all three
Speaker 5: of us lived outside of a kind of Yeah we were
Speaker 5: the Orange County, that's right.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you were the other side of the town.
Speaker 5: But but yeah, I think I do think that that
Speaker 5: helped a ton because it wasn't like quote unquote real
Speaker 5: life was something that we had zero connection to or
Speaker 5: that you know what I mean. It wasn't like we
Speaker 5: were in this bubble of just only being in entertainment.
Speaker 5: It was like, oh no, we knew what like regular
Speaker 5: school people did you know?
Speaker 2: And I think that was that was key.
Speaker 1: It keeps you ground It keeps you grounded, and it
Speaker 1: gives you perspective too of like hey, you're not going
Speaker 1: to be fond over all the time or told you're
Speaker 1: wonderful every single day, or you know, get people however.
Speaker 4: You will, Yeah, totally, totally.
Speaker 5: How So let's go, let's get to duck Face, because
Speaker 5: I know that that is what people are dying to hear.
Speaker 2: But let's get to duck base.
Speaker 4: Let's get to duck Face. That's actually that's actually the
Speaker 4: stint off. Let's get to duck fast.
Speaker 2: But let's get to duck face.
Speaker 5: I think that's the new that. Yeah, that's the newest one.
Speaker 5: And we find that really duck Face has been behind
Speaker 5: all manner of things in the Tanner Fuller Future. He's
Speaker 5: I feel like he's definitely their account for show easily.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I feel like duck Face is helping that family figure
Speaker 5: out how they pay for that house. Well, no one
Speaker 5: really appears to be working that much, So good on you.
Speaker 2: Here we go. Now we're really getting you know.
Speaker 5: Me, I'll I'll just start off in a direct and
Speaker 5: a fanfic and we'll have a show in seven minutes.
Speaker 5: But what do you remember what the casting process was
Speaker 5: like for that episode for that character?
Speaker 4: Simultaneously, vaguely and vividly, I remember going to the lot,
Speaker 4: and I remember that it might have been pretty quick
Speaker 4: from the initial to the callback. I don't want to
Speaker 4: say same day, but there were a lot of times
Speaker 4: that there were same day stuff and my poor mom
Speaker 4: had to take her Thomas Brother Guide in her pager
Speaker 4: and figure out we're paid for and I don't know
Speaker 4: how that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we we have talked many times about the Thomas Guide.
Speaker 2: And about how as kids we could.
Speaker 5: I could navigate you cross country using a Thomas Kid
Speaker 5: by the age of six, my mom my mom.
Speaker 4: Was like, hey, dude, you're not getting your learners permit
Speaker 4: unless you've got this thing fronted back. And I was
Speaker 4: like brutal. Okay, oh I was.
Speaker 2: We were at literally at five years old.
Speaker 5: My mom was like okay, Jay four, okay, you know,
Speaker 5: and it was like rating it and I remember, oh god,
Speaker 5: finding knowing the best routes across town and which one's
Speaker 5: like okay, we can't take the ten, but we can
Speaker 5: take you know, will share all the way down or
Speaker 5: something like just things like that that As a kid
Speaker 5: navigating auditions, you you definitely learn. But yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 5: it was a pretty quick thing.
Speaker 4: So I remember being on a lot and then I
Speaker 4: remember they were like, Okay, we're going to take it
Speaker 4: to the soundstage. I don't even think i'd been on
Speaker 4: a sound stage yet. I'd literally just done commercials the
Speaker 4: Maybes and Peterson, and I knew, you know, I knew
Speaker 4: the show is gigantic, and they were like, we're gonna
Speaker 4: do warder fitting right now, like what? And I met
Speaker 4: you and they like, I don't know if you remember that,
Speaker 4: but I do remember. They like, had us have our
Speaker 4: first little meet cute and it was like right, it
Speaker 4: was it was big jokes, it was big, it was real,
Speaker 4: big man, and I mean, we'll.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you remember this, Jodie. You have to say yes, because.
Speaker 2: It was me.
Speaker 5: I remember, and I don't remember what I had for
Speaker 5: breakfast this morning, but I I, that's amazing.
Speaker 4: I was like, let's do, let's go. I can act
Speaker 4: with this check, Let's go.
Speaker 5: And I do remember you and I had a lot
Speaker 5: of fun together. Like you were a few years older
Speaker 5: than me, so there was a little bit of an
Speaker 5: age difference, but it never felt like.
Speaker 4: Two younger sisters. And the one closest to me was
Speaker 4: you know, my first best friend in life, and so
Speaker 4: for together it was just me and her and we're
Speaker 4: very different. She's I explained Chelsea as like if Ruth
Speaker 4: Bader Ginsburg and Amy Poehler had a baby. She is
Speaker 4: like a little four eleven tyrants, but very very funny,
Speaker 4: the funniest of us all. And she's very stoic and
Speaker 4: very pragmatic and I'm a limatic, So like we're very different.
Speaker 4: But we were we and quick on and I think
Speaker 4: that that's probably why you and I we we had
Speaker 4: a good rapport.
Speaker 2: So what was it like being that that first day?
Speaker 2: Like was it?
Speaker 5: I guess too, Like I we didn't the whole reason
Speaker 5: we're doing this podcast because we didn't really watch the show,
Speaker 5: So the whole idea that this show was like we
Speaker 5: knew we got recognized, and we knew it was doing well.
Speaker 2: But as little kids, you're.
Speaker 5: Kind of you know, you're just like I don't know,
Speaker 5: this is the thing I do and I go and
Speaker 5: you know, so whenever guest stars would come or people
Speaker 5: and they were like this is huge for us, it's
Speaker 5: I still think of it as like really our little show,
Speaker 5: like with our little people, you know, because it was
Speaker 5: so normal and so not a huge thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I I remember it well, you can hear in
Speaker 4: the taping. I haven't watched it for a long, long time.
Speaker 4: I watch it every Sunday Night episode.
Speaker 2: Right right, just to keep it fresh in case you're
Speaker 2: asked to reprise the role.
Speaker 4: Well, I give myself a note.
Speaker 5: I'm like, guy, Yeah, I mean thirty some odd years
Speaker 5: of notes.
Speaker 2: I feel like at this point it's really dissected.
Speaker 4: Didn't nail it, you know, I didn't nail it, and
Speaker 4: I'm pretty upset about it.
Speaker 2: Well, it's because you didn't have a backstory.
Speaker 5: You know, you didn't know. You didn't know was it
Speaker 5: a patch on his pants or not that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can hear them when I when I the intro,
Speaker 4: when I first arrived, there's like gasps and like there's
Speaker 4: audible things and like very secluded laughter from you can
Speaker 4: tell young boys, and those are all of them. They
Speaker 4: all came to this. It was like my Scout troop.
Speaker 4: They all came and you can hear their ice. I
Speaker 4: can like say, oh, that's Ryan or that's Oh I'm.
Speaker 5: Going to have to go back and hear that now,
Speaker 5: because it's really really cute.
Speaker 4: They were very you know it was. I mean, I've
Speaker 4: always been a run I've always been the shortest due
Speaker 4: in my class. I'm the shortest dude in my existence
Speaker 4: as a forty five year old and but you know,
Speaker 4: school was like a mixed bag, and most of the
Speaker 4: time the friends were super supportive until you know they
Speaker 4: you know, they'd be five or six yogals that we
Speaker 4: get threatened. But when that gig happened, it was huge.
Speaker 4: I mean, and I you know, that was like kind
Speaker 4: of a period. I would say, like this is when
Speaker 4: I peaked of like ten to like fifteen, and then
Speaker 4: I went and I did a lot of different stuff.
Speaker 4: So Bohas is definitely the one who was like, all right,
Speaker 4: let's go.
Speaker 5: Was it like when you read the part of Duckface
Speaker 5: where you like, oh, because I know, like as a
Speaker 5: child actor, you know when we talked about it before too,
Speaker 5: like there's things that you have to do where you're like,
Speaker 5: it's fun in the moment and you're like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 5: an actor and I'm having fun and being silly, but
Speaker 5: then like you have this thought as pep where you're like, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm going to pay for this when everyone sees it,
Speaker 5: like everyone's gonna make.
Speaker 2: Fun of me.
Speaker 5: Did you not have any of that fear? And if not,
Speaker 5: how did you do it? And how can I do
Speaker 5: it now? Now?
Speaker 4: I mean, I've just always been a freak. So I
Speaker 4: think I took my jobs weirdly serious at time, and
Speaker 4: so I knew that that was a character and it
Speaker 4: was such a good, weird, specific character that I was like,
Speaker 4: I get to do a physical thing, I get to
Speaker 4: wear glasses, I get to be kind of like, you know,
Speaker 4: the patheticthetic part of it that I thought it was juicy,
Speaker 4: and I was really I was happy about that. I
Speaker 4: would pay for it later and I got routinely cast
Speaker 4: as like nerd boy for a minute. But you know again,
Speaker 4: I'm still that guy where like I've never you know,
Speaker 4: I went to college for undergrad classical acting and then
Speaker 4: you know, I've had a couple other lives seven of
Speaker 4: my nine cat lives already, and and I've never been
Speaker 4: the guy that's like, oh I want to win Best Actor.
Speaker 4: I'm like, no supporting actor, Like I want to know what,
Speaker 4: like the sidekick side Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 5: You always get to have the most fun with that,
Speaker 5: with the not the main character, but the one that's
Speaker 5: a little quirky and offbeat totally.
Speaker 4: And I also look in the mirror every day and
Speaker 4: so I know my face looks like so it makes sense.
Speaker 5: But you know what, though, I always think that there
Speaker 5: is something to be said for being a consistently working
Speaker 5: character or theater actor where you're like, I just get
Speaker 5: to do what I love in all different kinds of variations,
Speaker 5: and I don't have to, like, you know, be perfect
Speaker 5: for it. I don't have like I feel like that sometimes.
Speaker 2: Can you know when.
Speaker 5: That's the goal is to like be this thing, it's
Speaker 5: you know, you lose some of the fun and the
Speaker 5: playfulness and the outrageousness of acting and playing and doing
Speaker 5: all that.
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, as kids, we got to
Speaker 2: do it all the time.
Speaker 4: I had a mentor in college that she was great.
Speaker 4: She was from Britain and she I remember she cast
Speaker 4: me in this one role that was like the leading
Speaker 4: name and I looked at her and I was like,
Speaker 4: what are you doing? And she was like, I think
Speaker 4: you need to work on Well. I'll get emotional about
Speaker 4: it because it's kind of stayed with me forever that
Speaker 4: you're not and that you have the strength, and I
Speaker 4: think you're handsome, and I think that you're charming, and
Speaker 4: I think you're all the qualities of the leading man.
Speaker 4: You don't know that yet, and you need to. I mean,
Speaker 4: good God, what a lesson.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, a good teacher and a good acting
Speaker 5: class is really just on your feet therapy, working through
Speaker 5: various things.
Speaker 4: Her name is Sarah Ship and she's not dead. She's
Speaker 4: still loves but she yeah she was. She was incremental
Speaker 4: and yeah, so I'll drop her.
Speaker 1: Like being the leading man for the first time, did
Speaker 1: you end up believing in yourself that you're enough?
Speaker 4: I started filing into this thing because then during my
Speaker 4: second tour of duty here in La I started a
Speaker 4: film company, like in my twenties, because I was just
Speaker 4: I was auditioning for a lot of physical gags, right,
Speaker 4: So I was doing improv in my twenties. I was
Speaker 4: at UCB when it first started. Did that for seven years,
Speaker 4: ran the gamut because I was like, you know, when
Speaker 4: you're five to one, you should at least be funny.
Speaker 4: Let's figure it out. So did all that and we
Speaker 4: started this little, tiny independent film company. And I remember
Speaker 4: telling the guy that ended up directing all of it
Speaker 4: was doing a lot of the camera operating. I said,
Speaker 4: I want to do the non traditional man Ben Stiller
Speaker 4: or not as saving to save these days Woody Allen.
Speaker 4: But that I kind of got addicted to the idea
Speaker 4: of making that work. And the first short film we
Speaker 4: did is just like a little round commerce me in
Speaker 4: a five 't ten blonde actress that I met in
Speaker 4: improv class. Her name is Norika Patrick and she used
Speaker 4: to play in Edward Sharp and she's a phone director.
Speaker 4: Now that was a just on this, you know theme
Speaker 4: of sort of me figuring that out. I remember when
Speaker 4: to a couple of festivals and these old ladies, and
Speaker 4: the audiences they were like I forgot how short you
Speaker 4: were within five minutes because the chemistry was so good,
Speaker 4: and I was like, okay, cool, gool cool, cool.
Speaker 5: What an amazing I mean that what a testament to
Speaker 5: like reminding people that it's you know, the outer stuff,
Speaker 5: the outer package is not the most interesting part of anything.
Speaker 5: You know, it's not the most interesting part to watch
Speaker 5: on screen. It's not the most interesting part to you know,
Speaker 5: watch in real life. Like it's the underneath stuff that
Speaker 5: makes someone attractive or interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And because I you know, I'm like semi retired
Speaker 4: from acting, I get pulled out once in a while,
Speaker 4: but I might have like a resurgence in my brain
Speaker 4: and then my old here because I've kind of felt
Speaker 4: like the older gray or balder I get, the more
Speaker 4: interesting I am, Like.
Speaker 2: You know, you know what it is.
Speaker 5: It's the it's uh the less you give too, Yes,
Speaker 5: you get like as all I am in my forties
Speaker 5: now and it's I'm they're just they're flying off daily
Speaker 5: and it's so great. But I think that makes for
Speaker 5: like a whole It's sort of a creative resurgence because
Speaker 5: all of a sudden you're like, wait, all the stuff
Speaker 5: that I kind of didn't try or think I could
Speaker 5: or what I want to do it now?
Speaker 2: Like what do I have to lose? Who cares?
Speaker 5: It's sort of like the good side of a of
Speaker 5: a a midlife crisis, but a midlife questioning, a midlife
Speaker 5: digging deeper of what's next.
Speaker 4: Forty five year old is the best version if you're
Speaker 4: buying action figures, that's the one we get. And like
Speaker 4: it took a bit, I mean, you know, not to
Speaker 4: be like overly whatever, but my my pizza and valleys.
Speaker 4: I really have lived seven of my nine cat lives.
Speaker 4: But I'm not tired, and I feel like it's it's
Speaker 4: kind of the killer second half of my book that
Speaker 4: I'm excited about because and this is going to sound
Speaker 4: really hippie dippy and preach, you know, I lived a
Speaker 4: part of my life and not even though I was healthy.
Speaker 4: I lived a large part of my life not only
Speaker 4: growing up in the industry, as you guys know, but
Speaker 4: I also grew up very, very religious, and although we
Speaker 4: didn't really wear it on our sleeves, it was a
Speaker 4: part of my life every day week and my friends
Speaker 4: were a part of it, all that stuff. And so
Speaker 4: when I came to that sort of crossroads late in life,
Speaker 4: like in my twenties, where I was like is this
Speaker 4: for me? I just learned a lot about them myself.
Speaker 4: And so I think that most people, or at least
Speaker 4: a fall amount of people, don't get the opportunity to
Speaker 4: push pause on their life and really separate and do
Speaker 4: it's kind of a cliche term, but to do their
Speaker 4: work and to to really figure out who you are internally,
Speaker 4: so the second half of your life can be for
Speaker 4: you rather than the expectation of other people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's brilliant, as I think the three of us
Speaker 5: here have all done a lot of that work.
Speaker 2: Uh, yay therapy, yay therapy.
Speaker 5: If we're always on the show, like therapy is, yes,
Speaker 5: talk to people, talk to do the work.
Speaker 2: Do the work.
Speaker 4: I started painting in my forties. Yes, I have no training.
Speaker 4: My sister's the painter. She has two visual arts degrees.
Speaker 4: I was doing. I was doing a player. I was
Speaker 4: playing Oedipus and it's really fed up thing I wrote
Speaker 4: with Antigony and Oedipus and it was sort of I
Speaker 4: fictionally called it lars w and Sophocles because it looked
Speaker 4: like a lars warm true right, And I was like,
Speaker 4: for this, like research, I want to like fiddle around
Speaker 4: the painting I've literally never taken seriously. So I asked
Speaker 4: my sister. I was like, what do I get? Where
Speaker 4: I get them? What do I go to Michael's? Do
Speaker 4: I go to blin?
Speaker 2: What I did?
Speaker 4: And she was giving me some pointed She's like, oh,
Speaker 4: how fun. And I started banging it out and because
Speaker 4: full circle, I got zero to good. I can approach
Speaker 4: this art form which normally you're gonna get stuck and
Speaker 4: tricky if you overthink it and if you judge it.
Speaker 4: I don't care. So I just threw it down. I
Speaker 4: showed her a picture of this guy and she didn't
Speaker 4: tunk me for three weeks because she was like, I'm
Speaker 4: so pissed that you're just like good at you know.
Speaker 4: And then I like I started selling them stuff and
Speaker 4: she was I was like, look, also, we can't get
Speaker 4: the ten and bombs and we can't have like sibling
Speaker 4: rivalry in authority. You're always going to be better than me.
Speaker 4: But I have to do this for my swit. So like, yeah,
Speaker 4: this is the reason I bring it up is not
Speaker 4: to tell promote, but like this is an example of
Speaker 4: me not caring, not care.
Speaker 5: I have a dear friend of mine, Jen passed alof
Speaker 5: who is an incredible author and wrote a book, a
Speaker 5: memoir called On Being Human, which I highly recommend if
Speaker 5: you're looking to do it. But she's a dear friend
Speaker 5: of mine, and she did the same thing. She was
Speaker 5: going through a divorce and all of a sudden, it's
Speaker 5: like she just has all of this energy. She's more
Speaker 5: probably add than I am, but I love her and
Speaker 5: she just started painting and like she's really great.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's that reminder that like, just try new things,
Speaker 5: try new ways of expressing yourself, particularly at this time
Speaker 5: in your life when you're like, oh wait, I actually
Speaker 5: care a lot less about what people think. Go find
Speaker 5: ways to be create, are artistically creative, and let that
Speaker 5: part of your soul out, because I think we spend
Speaker 5: like the first half of our lives really trying to
Speaker 5: fit in the box that everyone else builds for us,
Speaker 5: and then we spend the second half like taking that
Speaker 5: box apart and building our own, you know.
Speaker 4: Well totally, And that's the thing that like not to
Speaker 4: get into the weeds about, but like with a a
Speaker 4: giant backplack of religious trauma, I really had to figure
Speaker 4: out you know, oh my gosh, some of these little
Speaker 4: tic tac things were literally things I was just saluting to.
Speaker 4: These decisions were not my decisions at all, and they
Speaker 4: formed a lot of stuff. So there has been a
Speaker 4: lot of untethering. And they call it with faith crisis
Speaker 4: is deprogramming, and it's been really interesting. You know, it's
Speaker 4: not right for everybody. I don't want to like talk
Speaker 4: about that and then be a hypocrite by preaching about
Speaker 4: not doing that.
Speaker 5: No, I think, well, I think like with anything that
Speaker 5: you know, de feminism all that the thing is that
Speaker 5: you have the choice if this is something of a
Speaker 5: journey that you want to take and something that isn't
Speaker 5: working for you, then go go take that journey. If
Speaker 5: the faith is working for you, you feel cool with it,
Speaker 5: then that works for you. You know, it's all about choice.
Speaker 5: But I love that, like, this is the journey that
Speaker 5: you've been on, and I think so many of our
Speaker 5: listeners will really connect with that, and also the idea
Speaker 5: of like knowing you as sort of this you know,
Speaker 5: Walter Duckface character and then like you had to deal
Speaker 5: with some of those real life things in your own
Speaker 5: life and come through it just like Walter would have
Speaker 5: probably had we followed along on his story and figured
Speaker 5: out who he was at forty five.
Speaker 2: You know, so like I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 4: Lying what I'm telling you that in was it college
Speaker 4: or was it high school? I think it was like
Speaker 4: early college. I went on two separtates. I remember this vividly,
Speaker 4: and and they both said, you know, and moments where
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, okay, maybe this is when we kiss
Speaker 4: and they said, am I your secret girlfriend?
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, right, no, yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, Ben, Yeah, that's paying that.
Speaker 4: Oh And I was like shops clothed, shops closed, that
Speaker 4: was real weird. Yeah, that's a deal breaker, you know,
Speaker 4: like that's that's a note for Meg.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's you know, it's amazing how many people out
Speaker 5: there think that that.
Speaker 2: And I guess, you know.
Speaker 4: I think they're intentional. I think the intention is fir.
Speaker 5: I guess it's always the thing that I say to
Speaker 5: people where I go, you know, people like, yeah, but
Speaker 5: you're famous, Like, isn't that cool? And I always say that, like,
Speaker 5: I think the idea of being known and famous, yeah,
Speaker 5: is really great. But when you try that on, there
Speaker 5: are definitely certain parts of it that that irritate, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: That are great.
Speaker 5: Certain parts of it look amazing and fabulous and it's
Speaker 5: all you know, you feel great, and but then certain
Speaker 5: parts of it are just constantly irritating and itchy as
Speaker 5: you wear that that idea of There was.
Speaker 4: A long time when I really really tried desperately to
Speaker 4: separate myself from being a kid actor, even I was
Speaker 4: still acting, even though I still love theaters and I
Speaker 4: was entrenched in it and discovering it like having a
Speaker 4: love affair with it for the first time all over again.
Speaker 4: But I tried really hard to kind of separate myself.
Speaker 4: And then the pandemic happened and I had and I
Speaker 4: think you guys know this world too. Now. I'd never
Speaker 4: done any conventions, and because I have some horror stuff
Speaker 4: and some animation stuff and nostalgia stuff like that, Like
Speaker 4: I could go and kind of reach a bunch of
Speaker 4: different boxes, but I'd never done it because I was
Speaker 4: maybe pretentious, maybe just like shy about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there is a certain element of being like, oh,
Speaker 5: I don't know, do it like does this feel weird?
Speaker 5: Does it feel you know? And now I actually love
Speaker 5: doing them because the fans.
Speaker 4: Love it, like I do them now all the time,
Speaker 4: and they're so sweet.
Speaker 5: It's such a joy to be able to go and
Speaker 5: have people respond so positively. And I think also that
Speaker 5: is something that comes with age, I will say it,
Speaker 5: the the understanding and.
Speaker 2: Appreciation of just what these characters mean to people.
Speaker 5: I think does it hit you until you're of that
Speaker 5: age where you go, oh yeah, yeah, Like my childhood
Speaker 5: memories are like that too, you know, and it once
Speaker 5: you have enough distance from it, you're like, Okay, that's
Speaker 5: not all I am. But I'm okay with leaning into
Speaker 5: that part.
Speaker 4: Well. And here's a really cool thing that I've been
Speaker 4: sort of obsessed with lately. This thought is that you know. Yes,
Speaker 4: it's great to not live your life in sort of
Speaker 4: a narcissistic, self serving way, but also to be of service. Right, So, like,
Speaker 4: I'm in a play right now that I wrote that
Speaker 4: we're going to do here in September, here in La.
Speaker 4: It's a big bucket list thing for me, and I
Speaker 4: wanted to act in it. And I've directed eighteen of
Speaker 4: my theater company's shows previously, all of them. And it's
Speaker 4: a checkoff play. I'm obsessed with check off. I could
Speaker 4: do four hours.
Speaker 2: What plays that. I love Chekhov It's Van.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm playing Van. Yet you have to come.
Speaker 2: I want to come, okay.
Speaker 4: Because here's the other thing. I love Chekov And not
Speaker 4: to like throw a shade or seem like I'm a
Speaker 4: bitter dude. I'm just really punk rock this way. Like
Speaker 4: there's been a couple Bondies this year. It seemed quite
Speaker 4: precious and quite American, and what I wanted was to
Speaker 4: get to like the teeth and the backbone. Anyway, point
Speaker 4: of this whole story, outside of clearly pleasure.
Speaker 5: Is that you should We would ask you do you
Speaker 5: have stuff to play?
Speaker 2: And this? Yeah? This, I will be there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is it there and my company is called
Speaker 4: a Riot Act and we're on Instagram or whatever. But
Speaker 4: the part of it was that, like I, I didn't
Speaker 4: want to do double duty and direct and a lot
Speaker 4: of acting. I just not I didn't want to do that.
Speaker 4: So I wrote the adaptation. And then I met this dude.
Speaker 4: He's he's a kid, twenty three. He took this sort
Speaker 4: of weirdo acting workshop I taught last year, and he's
Speaker 4: a cal Arts grad and he's he's a genius. And
Speaker 4: I thought, you know what, here's where people at our
Speaker 4: age go. They don't look towards the past from the
Speaker 4: people that inspired them, and they certainly don't look at
Speaker 4: like the younger generation and going like you have something
Speaker 4: to say that I really need to hear. They're finished products,
Speaker 4: they're baked in and that is totally where you get
Speaker 4: in trouble.
Speaker 5: Well, as we get older, we get more set in
Speaker 5: our ways, and that's like the worst possible thing for
Speaker 5: creativity and just humans really like always be learning and
Speaker 5: changing addition stuff.
Speaker 4: So I'm excited because I've just kind of said, hey, man,
Speaker 4: here's my brand, here's my baby that I established in
Speaker 4: London that like, you know, I don't have kids, so
Speaker 4: my plays are my kids. And I said, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you take them for the weekend. And
Speaker 4: I want you to like, take this play and do
Speaker 4: it your way, don't try to impress me. And I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna be of service to you to send the
Speaker 4: elevator back down to give it to people, and to say,
Speaker 4: here's the stuff I've learned, take it or leave it.
Speaker 4: That's kind of what I live for these days. I
Speaker 4: live for being like some strange stage guru pirate. That's
Speaker 4: what I want to be.
Speaker 5: I am totally here for your strange sage guru pirate era.
Speaker 2: I think it's excellent.
Speaker 5: I think we all need a stage guru pirate in
Speaker 5: our corner who will tell us the truth. And I
Speaker 5: love hearing about your all of your nine lives. And
Speaker 5: this wraps up part one of our interview with the
Speaker 5: beloved wit Hertford, known to our dear fan of Rito's
Speaker 5: as Duckface. Although I hate that he still has that moniker, but.
Speaker 3: It just it's gonna follow him every day.
Speaker 2: Now, it's what it is.
Speaker 5: But wit has shared so many incredible memories with us already,
Speaker 5: but there's still so much more to dive into, so
Speaker 5: make sure to join us this Friday for part two
Speaker 5: with Wit and We're so glad you joined us for
Speaker 5: another episode of how Rude Tanner Rito's. If you're looking
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Speaker 5: of How Rude Tana Rito's. Now, I feel like we
Speaker 5: changed the outro?
Speaker 4: We did?
Speaker 3: Did you write it down?
Speaker 2: Oh crap?
Speaker 3: And we don't have a bracelet. We don't have a
Speaker 3: cheat sheet.
Speaker 5: You see this is I'm out here, I'm flying blind.
Speaker 2: Uh oh wait, I remember what it was. It was?
Speaker 5: It was, uh, the world is the world is full,
Speaker 5: but the door is always open.
Speaker 2: Now the world is small, but the door is always open.
Speaker 2: I think that was I think that might sounds right.
Speaker 5: Okay, well, we'll go with that this week until you know,
Speaker 5: I get a braceletter, write it down.