Speaker 1: Hi, and it's Matt too. And this is a really
Speaker 1: fun episode. We're about to get into it, but wanted
Speaker 1: to just say up top, this is with Tyler Henry Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Medium, and we had such a great time with him.
Speaker 2: And part of the setup for the episode is that
Speaker 2: he gave us a reading that was captured on audio
Speaker 2: and video. So once the YouTube comes out, check that
Speaker 2: out on video. But we're going to put that audio
Speaker 2: portion at the beginning of this episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we start the episode with Tyler. So
Speaker 1: we walked in, we really didn't like say much to him.
Speaker 1: We sat down, we started the reading. That's what we
Speaker 1: were told to do. And here are our readings followed
Speaker 1: by the episode with Tyler.
Speaker 3: Enjoy Now, the less I know, the better generally going
Speaker 3: into all of these things because I never want to
Speaker 3: have bias kind of impede what I do. So with
Speaker 3: two people, kind of go back and forth, scribbling just
Speaker 3: kind of my way of turning on and I aim
Speaker 3: for about eighty percent to connect, but there might be
Speaker 3: a twenty percent portion we check with other friends or family.
Speaker 4: I want to go I'm going to go back and forth.
Speaker 4: I gotta highlight this guy that's coming through. I'm already
Speaker 4: starting to smith. That's good. I'm going to start with you,
Speaker 4: and then I'll kind of jump back and forth.
Speaker 3: So when we talk with you, I want to kind of,
Speaker 3: oddly enough, go back decades. I want to bring up
Speaker 3: this guy that's coming through who's hitting me on a
Speaker 3: grandfather level. And this guy is coming in and I
Speaker 3: can tell it he would have been passed four decades.
Speaker 3: This is not a recent passing, something that would have
Speaker 3: been kind of long ago. They showed me this dichotomy
Speaker 3: between a death and then shortly thereafter like a birth.
Speaker 3: So if somebody wasn't able to meet a grandparent or
Speaker 3: meet grandpa within family, it kind of reminds me of
Speaker 3: what I myself went through with my own grandfather. He
Speaker 3: died in the eighties and I was born in the nineties,
Speaker 3: and we were never able to meet in a physical sense.
Speaker 3: There is an aspect there that does come through within family,
Speaker 3: and it would have been quite some time ago. Without
Speaker 3: giving anything away, do you know of any men on
Speaker 3: like Mom's side of family who would have gone kind
Speaker 3: of prematurely. The way I would describe this this guy
Speaker 3: is he gives me this feeling of working, working, working,
Speaker 3: and then I stop working and then I die. And
Speaker 3: I don't mean to laugh, but there's kind of a
Speaker 3: joke about this in family of people either saying like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you work your whole life only to just pass away,
Speaker 3: and that comes in over and over again. This guy
Speaker 3: comes across and is striking me with this feeling of
Speaker 3: feeling a lot older than I actually was when I passed.
Speaker 3: That basically indicates that someone's physicality felt older than they
Speaker 3: actually were when they went. This guy strikes me as
Speaker 3: kind of.
Speaker 4: A little past middle age. If I had to say.
Speaker 3: Just in the realm that it's kind of hitting me,
Speaker 3: but physically I feel kind of yucky. I feel like,
Speaker 3: even if I'm in my fifties, I feel like I'm
Speaker 3: in my seventies. Is kind of the only way to
Speaker 3: describe it, in the sense of just not wanting to complain,
Speaker 3: but feeling ran down in some kind of larger way.
Speaker 4: So that guy pops in really really clearly.
Speaker 3: There's a funniness around a confusion of you know, when
Speaker 3: you list everybody's name in the family except the person
Speaker 3: you're intending to say, so it would be like Carol Kristen,
Speaker 3: and then I end up saying the person's name, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, whichever when I go down the whole list
Speaker 3: of family members until I get to the one they're
Speaker 3: wanting me to joke about that in some capacity in
Speaker 3: some way, I have to highlight two similar one different.
Speaker 3: They're bringing up mom Mom's side, and I have to
Speaker 3: highlight they're gonna get into a specific so here and
Speaker 3: that I'm gonna jump back and forth.
Speaker 4: I have to bring up a.
Speaker 3: Situation for some reason on Mom's side of family, and
Speaker 3: this is good to look into where someone would have
Speaker 3: dealt with a cancer that kind of started lower and
Speaker 3: then went higher. So if we talk about something that
Speaker 3: starts kind of in our physical body in a lower
Speaker 3: area and then spreads and essentially causes me to become
Speaker 3: overwhelmed with cancer and goes into a secondary about they're
Speaker 3: kind of having.
Speaker 4: Me bring up that.
Speaker 3: But then they're also having me highlight an acknowledgment around
Speaker 3: your mother's sister.
Speaker 4: I think, does your mother have a sister?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, at the time that Grandpa passed, you have
Speaker 3: an uncle.
Speaker 4: You have an uncle on mom side of family.
Speaker 3: Yes, don't give away too much atose one. But there's
Speaker 3: an interesting thing in the way this comes across at
Speaker 3: the time in which Grandpa passed, there's this feeling of
Speaker 3: not being resolved with my son. And the way that
Speaker 3: I would word this is they're having a highlight Grandpa's
Speaker 3: namesake and his name being passed on. But this feeling
Speaker 3: of the girls have a different interpretation of father relationship
Speaker 3: than the son in this equation.
Speaker 4: So if like the.
Speaker 3: Mom and sister feel a certain way, it's different than
Speaker 3: perhaps how their brother had initially felt. They're kind of
Speaker 3: separating this into a bit of a dichotomy. All of
Speaker 3: that to say, there's this feeling that comes through related
Speaker 3: to this older woman who would be like a grandmother
Speaker 3: that I wanted to bring up, and she's just kind
Speaker 3: of on the sidelines the way this comes through. But
Speaker 3: grandchildren would not have been able to fully say goodbye
Speaker 3: or have the sendoff, And that's kind of what's interesting
Speaker 3: for me around her situation is if if she wasn't
Speaker 3: able to have her grandkids by her side when she passed,
Speaker 3: it's kind of a feeling like it's all good. I
Speaker 3: don't need people to see me or be there physically.
Speaker 4: To kind of do that.
Speaker 3: But it definitely comes in as a feeling of wanting
Speaker 3: to bring up both of them. I need to highlight
Speaker 3: this is good to keep in mind for you, Bowen.
Speaker 3: Within family, keep in mind they do put an emphasis
Speaker 3: on living people, which is it's a mixed bag. Remember
Speaker 3: that I'm saying this with older family members. I have
Speaker 3: older parents myself. I'm an only child and my parents
Speaker 3: are kind of closer to over sixty now, and they're
Speaker 3: having me talk about conversations around parents getting older and
Speaker 3: health and well being. And in the way this comes across,
Speaker 3: just remember that I'm saying, if anyone in your family,
Speaker 3: particularly on dad's side, runs the risk of any filtration
Speaker 3: related problems that to me usually goes like liver, kidney, pancreous,
Speaker 3: and it's more digestive. Remember that I'm saying that I
Speaker 3: kind of feel like there's going to be a situation
Speaker 3: there nothing related to you directly, but I'm kind of
Speaker 3: going back more. There's an acknowledgement of a guy who's
Speaker 3: born with something on his face or a distinct birthmark.
Speaker 3: There's an acknowledgment of a baby that was born with
Speaker 3: a full head of hair that I have.
Speaker 4: To joke about or talk about.
Speaker 3: And some of these things might like immediately connect. Some
Speaker 3: might not and they're worth looking into. But they're having
Speaker 3: me bring up just overall health cognizance awareness. It wouldn't
Speaker 3: surprise me within your family if we see any living
Speaker 3: family members kind of start going through some changes, particularly
Speaker 3: one family member that might cognitively.
Speaker 4: Just start going through some shifts.
Speaker 3: The way I would word this is it doesn't seem
Speaker 3: like a large concern, but it's just kind of almost.
Speaker 4: Like keep an eye on this, keep an eye on this, because.
Speaker 3: There is this dynamic people coming together. There's acknowledgement of
Speaker 3: geographical travel I have to talk about like trips. They're
Speaker 3: bringing up like heavy conversations that there's a lot here.
Speaker 3: One thing to keep in mind for the next two
Speaker 3: years for you, if you have any opportunities regarding plishing
Speaker 3: a book, writing a book, and any collaborative way.
Speaker 4: They're bringing that up in a very very positive, hopeful sense.
Speaker 3: There is kind of an odd element that comes through
Speaker 3: in the long run which might be interesting of you.
Speaker 3: And then I'm seeing funny but history. So if there's
Speaker 3: any historical figures that you end up being able to
Speaker 3: like cover in a funny way, historical events in a
Speaker 3: funny way, I'm putting like teaching tool history but funny
Speaker 3: and designing it to say I know, so a lot
Speaker 3: of the kind of process, but that part does come in.
Speaker 4: There is an acknowledgment.
Speaker 3: Do you have a sister, I do, okay, So just
Speaker 3: keeping in mind fertility based stuff for her, there might
Speaker 3: be a decision of stop having babies.
Speaker 4: Or I'm slowing it down. I'm slowing the roll. I
Speaker 4: don't know if I can handle. So, regardless of the
Speaker 4: decision that is made there as far as logistically future children,
Speaker 4: they're just kind of putting an emphasis on fertility stuff,
Speaker 4: pregnancy stuff, and just kind of as I get older
Speaker 4: some of the natural changes that happen in that system.
Speaker 4: But just keeping that in mind for her, she might
Speaker 4: run the risk of, like O very insists, insists, kind
Speaker 4: of good to keep that in mind in the long run,
Speaker 4: particularly if there's any interest in having more babies. I'm
Speaker 4: just kind of going to just keep that in mind.
Speaker 3: I do want to bring up also an acknowledgement around
Speaker 3: this is kind of I can draw parallel with myself here.
Speaker 3: If there are any conversations recently around obsessive compulsive disorder OCD.
Speaker 3: It keeps coming through Wow and I'm somebody who's diagnosed
Speaker 3: with this myself, so it's a pretty clear symbol. I
Speaker 3: find things I can relate to or come through a
Speaker 3: little bit more clearly. They're putting an emphasis on that
Speaker 3: almost as something to consider if it comes up in conversation.
Speaker 3: As far as our proclivities to obsessive, compulsive, cyclical thinking,
Speaker 3: that kind of are acknowledging that, and sometimes that can
Speaker 3: help provide an answer to a question, sometimes can provide clarification.
Speaker 3: But it's just good to keep in mind that that
Speaker 3: kind of is around in the way this comes through,
Speaker 3: and that would pop in there for you. I have
Speaker 3: to talk about your grandpa's namesake and how his name
Speaker 3: was continued on. This is weird there there, Wow, that
Speaker 3: was continued on.
Speaker 1: This is so crazy.
Speaker 4: Oh good, these two come through together, and it's interesting
Speaker 4: when we talk about, like Grandpa a long time ago,
Speaker 4: did grandma pass more recently? More recently, more recently. I
Speaker 4: want to highlight that situation.
Speaker 3: She has me feeling thin, like I got thin and
Speaker 3: thin and thin where I'm feeling talking about wave fluctuation
Speaker 3: and my ability to basically take nutrients from my food.
Speaker 3: She needed it to be known that she was not starving.
Speaker 3: At the end, there's this feeling of kind of like
Speaker 3: I no longer wanted.
Speaker 4: To eat, I don't feel hungry.
Speaker 3: It's very much that this would be something that would
Speaker 3: be more gradual or progressive. This is not instant with Grandma,
Speaker 3: but it would have been something that would have essentially
Speaker 3: informed how this happened. There is an acknowledgment of favoring
Speaker 3: one sister more than the others.
Speaker 4: I was bringing one up.
Speaker 3: And the way I would word this is there just
Speaker 3: acknowledging equity equality. It's usually their way of trying to
Speaker 3: say like, hey, there was not a favorite. There might
Speaker 3: have been a favorite, but it's more of them on
Speaker 3: the other side saying, look, in hindsight, I love.
Speaker 4: You both in different ways.
Speaker 3: Okay, and that's important, but it's like something that's pre
Speaker 3: established when.
Speaker 4: It came to these two, and there's like kind of
Speaker 4: cute rivalry or I wanting to talk about it, kind
Speaker 4: of like if you do what I can do, and
Speaker 4: if you do it, I can do it, and it's
Speaker 4: kind of cute in the way it comes across.
Speaker 3: So every sibling family stuff has different dynamics, but it
Speaker 3: comes through as a sense of peace I very much
Speaker 3: feel a feeling of with this this grandmother figure. It's
Speaker 3: actually interesting she brings up this feeling of passing and
Speaker 3: then thereafter kind of everything taking off in a big way.
Speaker 3: So if someone noticed that the timing was a little serendipitous,
Speaker 3: where like she passed right as someone's life is just
Speaker 3: taken off in a big way. There's a feeling of
Speaker 3: I see it, I see it from where I'm at now,
Speaker 3: and an awareness in the way this comes through kind
Speaker 3: of the far reaching aspect there is Bowen, there's a
Speaker 3: very strong emphasis.
Speaker 4: That's really really interesting when we look into family lore
Speaker 4: in your family, as far as history goes, details might
Speaker 4: be a little back and forth.
Speaker 3: One interesting thing that comes through for you is actually
Speaker 3: discovering a lot about family later on in life than
Speaker 3: we were ever actually able to access earlier on, and
Speaker 3: so that may provide an opportunity to kind of fill
Speaker 3: in the blanks with parents, their history, family, what happened,
Speaker 3: what informed getting people here to there. But there's very
Speaker 3: much this feeling of going back to move forward and
Speaker 3: being able to own truths and own things that happened
Speaker 3: that might have been to be honest traumatic in kind
Speaker 3: a larger way and being able to kind of reframe
Speaker 3: that through the power of owning our story and communication
Speaker 3: and transparency. I know it might sound a little odd,
Speaker 3: but in doing such, it feels like you heal previous
Speaker 3: generations of family that were silent, that weren't able to
Speaker 3: express themselves. There's some kind of tragic ladies in your family,
Speaker 3: and this is just going to keep in mind situations
Speaker 3: involving women who just did not get a fair shot,
Speaker 3: and you know, culturally sometimes that that can contribute. But
Speaker 3: there's definitely this feeling of you do not walk alone.
Speaker 4: You might also, funny enough, find that you have a
Speaker 4: gay relative, so that's kind of funny. Again, it just
Speaker 4: comes in as things to be aware of. And then yeah,
Speaker 4: that history thing keeps coming through in a very like
Speaker 4: comedic way history comedy and crossover with that.
Speaker 3: So I can apply and I'm sure several different arenas ultimately,
Speaker 3: but for you buy and large, I'm really excited.
Speaker 4: Wow, it feels really, really really positive.
Speaker 3: Give me one second, I'm just going to scribble really
Speaker 3: fast just to make sure I've got that just there.
Speaker 4: For you.
Speaker 3: Just keep in mind tummy health to stomach digestive kind
Speaker 3: of that arena. Just remember that I'm saying that there
Speaker 3: is a little bit of an emphasis on inflammatory stuff.
Speaker 3: So not a problem unless you end up noticing it,
Speaker 3: in which case, you know, we go to a doctor.
Speaker 3: No big deal. But like stomach might respond to stress
Speaker 3: as far as like when we're going about a day
Speaker 3: to day life, just remember that that might be kind
Speaker 3: of a litmus test for overall health.
Speaker 4: And that's kind of good to consider for you.
Speaker 3: It's good to keep in mind any air travel that
Speaker 3: you do, like getting on a plane, whatever they're bringing
Speaker 3: up ear nose and throat and that comes through very strongly.
Speaker 3: That runs the risk every single time you fly of
Speaker 3: in some capacity kind of going south or dealing with
Speaker 3: congestion in the long term.
Speaker 4: So just being mindful of that.
Speaker 3: It's almost like if you plan these long, you know, flights,
Speaker 3: there's this feeling of, well, we're going to have to
Speaker 3: prepare and kind of put in our calendar some time
Speaker 3: to heal and kind of just deal with inevitable like
Speaker 3: that comes from this in a way that would be
Speaker 3: more than your average person.
Speaker 4: So just being mindful of that is good. I feel
Speaker 4: really really positive buy and large with that. It'd be
Speaker 4: that aspect.
Speaker 3: Okay, cool, and just remember that I'm saying this because
Speaker 3: he's sayings sometimes will just pop in randomly. Your mom
Speaker 3: is still alive. Yes, keep in mind they bring me
Speaker 3: to one of her eyes and this is kind of strange,
Speaker 3: but they are bringing me to eye health clarity. And
Speaker 3: sometimes if people get to be discharging the eye, we're
Speaker 3: dealing with an eye problem.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of putting that around her. So it's just
Speaker 4: something to keep in.
Speaker 3: Mind, and just if we notice, you know, it's just
Speaker 3: kind of further validates in the long run.
Speaker 4: But for the.
Speaker 3: Most part, a lot of your stuff seems to be
Speaker 3: about like taking family history and coming to certain conclusions
Speaker 3: and talking about things that people would not be willing
Speaker 3: to talk about owning them, and then kind of reframing
Speaker 3: certain things in a way that actually is empowering versus discouraging.
Speaker 3: Shame is a very powerful emotion, and I think in
Speaker 3: so many ways in this lifetime there's the sense of
Speaker 3: you being able to kind of the buck stops with you,
Speaker 3: end it with you in a big way. And as
Speaker 3: you do that, I feel like those who came before
Speaker 3: you also heal through your openness, through your vulnerability and
Speaker 3: the courage that that takes.
Speaker 4: Wow, that was very resident. Thank you. There's a lot there.
Speaker 4: I know it's kind of all across the board.
Speaker 3: But what I want to do is I want to
Speaker 3: make sure that we each I'll have time one on
Speaker 3: one in the long run. And so I'm going to
Speaker 3: give you guys the Scribble and I will give you
Speaker 3: my contact.
Speaker 4: With scribble, yes God, and then you and your your
Speaker 4: friends or your friend and you as well, please contact
Speaker 4: Heather and we will set up a private one on
Speaker 4: one reading and we will do it.
Speaker 3: We'll do with you, you and then the friend, and we
Speaker 3: can delve in get specifics all of the goods. But
Speaker 3: I like to just kind of demonstrate, and as I'm
Speaker 3: a sweating.
Speaker 4: So much, yes, of course, so I just kind of like,
Speaker 4: I don't know how much their lands, how much doesn't
Speaker 4: But what.
Speaker 3: I can say is, you know, I always kind of
Speaker 3: go in skeptically. I think it's important to never lose
Speaker 3: sight of critical thinking and common sense. But my goal
Speaker 3: when I meet with people is really just to relay
Speaker 3: actual information details that can kind of help people make
Speaker 3: connections that they wouldn't ordinarily and as a result kind
Speaker 3: of move forward a little bit lighter, you might be
Speaker 3: able to deliver some meshes to mom. There's this sense of,
Speaker 3: you know, dealing with that brother situation at the time
Speaker 3: that Grandpa passed did not look easy and kind of
Speaker 3: added more pain to an already situation.
Speaker 1: Okay, so if you feel good, yeah we can. We
Speaker 1: can start and bring you in and talk about this
Speaker 1: because there's so much to talk.
Speaker 4: Okay, look, may oh, I see you.
Speaker 5: Look over there is that culture.
Speaker 4: Yes, wow, lost culture.
Speaker 1: Dang du lost Cultursa's calling breathless vibes.
Speaker 4: We just had a moment, Yeah, we did.
Speaker 5: We just had an experience.
Speaker 4: And I'm not terribly shocked either me.
Speaker 1: Neither, but I am surprised by what came through. I
Speaker 1: was really manifesting something else too, very pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 4: Me as well.
Speaker 2: And it's even there's something very I would say healing
Speaker 2: about our guests. I've always thought this, I've always thought, wow,
Speaker 2: he seems really like when he's with these people, at
Speaker 2: least the people we've seen on TV, there is such
Speaker 2: a he has like an asmr tone to his timber.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean like, first of all, I could sit and
Speaker 1: luckily e exclamation point makes it very available.
Speaker 5: I could sit and watch YouTube videos of our goal.
Speaker 1: We've got it for years.
Speaker 2: At this point, I remember you introduced me to our
Speaker 2: guest knows like this guy is special.
Speaker 1: Well, just watching a series of people in a moment
Speaker 1: realize that what's happening is really happening, and we just
Speaker 1: had that experience. I mean there, this gets said a
Speaker 1: lot on the show and in various YouTube clips that
Speaker 1: you can again can watch and the show on Netflix,
Speaker 1: et cetera. There's so much to consume about our guests,
Speaker 1: including a tour, but I just want to say everyone
Speaker 1: always has that thing of like where you start to
Speaker 1: realize that it's real.
Speaker 4: And like how could it have been known before?
Speaker 1: And yeah, that sounds like there's no way he could
Speaker 1: have known that there was a few things in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm really shook by yours because I feel like
Speaker 1: what was said to you is very poignant, was.
Speaker 4: Very poignant, very resonant. As of late.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the words family lore were brought up. Family
Speaker 2: lore and about how that's been a little I've sort
Speaker 2: of missed the lined it and when I tell her
Speaker 2: to people about it, this story kind of is amorphous
Speaker 2: and unwieldy, and like this is an opportunity to really
Speaker 2: get down to the anchor points of what this story
Speaker 2: is and to own it and to move forward. And
Speaker 2: that's been a lifelong thing, a narrative for me. Talk
Speaker 2: about how you're feeling, because I could feel the impact.
Speaker 1: Well, to be honest with you, like it's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a blur because there was so much there
Speaker 1: in terms of specificity, and I want to get into
Speaker 1: it because like there was a lot of acknowledgments. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that acknowledgment will really help members of
Speaker 1: my family. And also he said something health wise about
Speaker 1: really both of us. But I'll be watching. I'll be
Speaker 1: watching going forward. And that's why you need this experience.
Speaker 1: Get on the thousands of people along way in the
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Speaker 1: he's a television star, he's incredible at what he does.
Speaker 1: We're going to get into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just launched the collective, he's going on tour. Yes,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about all of it. Everyone, Please
Speaker 2: welcome Tyler.
Speaker 3: Henry, Oh my goodness, I saw this coming.
Speaker 1: How was that for you?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: Fascinating.
Speaker 3: It's so interesting going into because you never know what's
Speaker 3: going to come through, you know. I aim when I
Speaker 3: do a reading to be able to connect to timely information,
Speaker 3: stuff that's going on either in the here and the
Speaker 3: now or never got dealt with, and just those moments
Speaker 3: of affirmation, as you said, acknowledgment I find can really
Speaker 3: act as a catalyst in a person's life and that
Speaker 3: transcends belief.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, you were saying that you view what you do
Speaker 2: as coincidence making. Yes, am I phrasing that correctly? And
Speaker 2: I feel like I completely understand that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, there's something a phrase that was coined
Speaker 3: by one of the leading psychotherapists, Carl Jung, and he
Speaker 3: referred to meaningful coincidences as synchronicity, moments in which life
Speaker 3: seems to synchronize. And those moments I find are a
Speaker 3: huge part of this work. You're bringing certain things to
Speaker 3: people's attention as a way for them to kind of
Speaker 3: make connections or have a sense of affirmation.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm kind of struck by like as it's
Speaker 2: coming to you. I mean, it was very surreal to
Speaker 2: see the scribbles in real life and you are so
Speaker 2: somatically like engaged, and I wonder, obviously it's visual with
Speaker 2: the scribbles, but like, what are you seeing? Can you
Speaker 2: describe in whatever terms you want, Like what that is
Speaker 2: like for you to sort of go there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what happens? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's not like Oda Mae Brown. My
Speaker 3: head doesn't spin around and the spirits are in my ear.
Speaker 3: But it is one of those things where I get
Speaker 3: into an altered state of consciousness where I basically just
Speaker 3: actively daydream and it's what a lot of people do
Speaker 3: in high school and they're sitting there and the teachers
Speaker 3: more I want. Yeah, But in my case, I've learned
Speaker 3: how to kind of refine it paired with scribbling, and
Speaker 3: that allows me to kind of pick up on subtle nuances,
Speaker 3: things that I think we all are exposed to but
Speaker 3: often miss because of our own implice biases. So when
Speaker 3: I get in that state, I oftentimes will get parallels
Speaker 3: between my own life and the person I'm reading. Then if,
Speaker 3: for example, someone has a Henry and my name is
Speaker 3: Tyler Henry, sometimes I'll see myself as an image.
Speaker 1: Did you just see that that's weird. O.
Speaker 2: Mind, God, I've got I've got a Henry.
Speaker 1: That's important.
Speaker 4: It's funny because of that name and the way it
Speaker 4: comes through. It's just like right there.
Speaker 3: But they use me as a way to kind of
Speaker 3: communicate their message. So my own lived experiences, things have
Speaker 3: gone through, they draw parallels and it reflects that consciousness
Speaker 3: is so much more than just one thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to say, like just to speak about
Speaker 1: the reading right now, Like I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is something that you like to have after the reading,
Speaker 1: but I do want to let you know that my
Speaker 1: grandfather's name was John. So was his son. So was
Speaker 1: his son. So when you talked about the namesake being
Speaker 1: passed down, that really resonated. And also my grandfather did
Speaker 1: pass away of a heart attack when my mother was
Speaker 1: twenty seven, the year before I was born. And actually
Speaker 1: as a result of that tragic happening, it was actually
Speaker 1: my parents had broken up and they got back together
Speaker 1: because I think they realized that like life was too
Speaker 1: short and they were in love. And so you spoke
Speaker 1: a little bit about the grandmother. They were divorced, and
Speaker 1: it was like a tougher family situation because my uncle was,
Speaker 1: he had many problems. He's also deceased, and it was
Speaker 1: a tough relationship with my grandfather, who I didn't know.
Speaker 1: But when you talk about the passing down of the
Speaker 1: name and that toughness down the patriarchal line and on
Speaker 1: my mother's side of the family, it is really really hard.
Speaker 1: And my mother has a sister, Katrina and Christina, you know, like,
Speaker 1: so I think that the du out like like kind
Speaker 1: of a thing, and that rang true as well. And
Speaker 1: to hear that she's on the other side feeling chill
Speaker 1: and especially wanting them to know that she was not
Speaker 1: in pain at the end of her life, because she
Speaker 1: did kind of waste away, I mean.
Speaker 5: Dementure got very very bad for her.
Speaker 1: So to hear that she wasn't hungry and suffering is
Speaker 1: really going to help because I think that obviously she
Speaker 1: couldn't communicate what she was feeling. Right, So that's all
Speaker 1: really really interesting. And you also said I'll watch my stomach,
Speaker 1: and I will watch that, yes, but I have to
Speaker 1: say I was really struck by what you received.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got some pretty pretty poignant stuff, are you.
Speaker 2: I mean, as it's coming to you, I think extemporaneously
Speaker 2: you are saying very sophisticated You're expressing very sophisticated ideas,
Speaker 2: and I wonder if there is a lag between what
Speaker 2: you're receiving and how you put it into words.
Speaker 3: Do you feel that, Yeah, I kind of like in
Speaker 3: my job to that of like a mailman in the
Speaker 3: sense that I don't write the letters.
Speaker 4: I just kind of deliver the message.
Speaker 3: I also drop parallels kind of between asl interpreters, right,
Speaker 3: So there's an interpretive element for sure, And when I
Speaker 3: do my job correctly, the message gets delivered, but there
Speaker 3: is a period of kind of having to assess, you know,
Speaker 3: do I deliver it exactly as I'm receiving it?
Speaker 4: Do I keep in mind a bedside manner? You know?
Speaker 3: And this job has made me very diplomatic in my
Speaker 3: ability to relay sometimes really tough things in ways where
Speaker 3: I understand what's being said, the person I'm reading understands
Speaker 3: what's being said, but maybe everyone else watching doesn't.
Speaker 2: How is it to like, I feel like people direct
Speaker 2: a lot of emotion at you. Yes, in the physical world,
Speaker 2: not to mention, you know, everything beyond that, but like,
Speaker 2: is that a little is there a stress test that
Speaker 2: you've sort of like familiarized yourself with, like, there has
Speaker 2: to be a point where that kind of buckles a bit.
Speaker 4: It's intense, you know.
Speaker 3: I think by nature what I do is pretty ambiguous, right.
Speaker 3: It exists out of really this quantifiable thing. It's not
Speaker 3: scientifically proven as of yet, and I don't even think
Speaker 3: it's necessarily a scientific claim for me. This exists more
Speaker 3: in the realm of creativity than it does science.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I have had my brain scan during a reading by
Speaker 3: scientists who have acknowledged that there's something weird going on
Speaker 3: in this noggin as I scribble and essence to go
Speaker 3: into a sleep state, and it was covered in the
Speaker 3: actual last episode of my show Hollywood Medium.
Speaker 4: So I've been kind of.
Speaker 3: Put to the test in essence, I've shown a willingness
Speaker 3: to to go to a laboratory get hooked up see
Speaker 3: if anything's happening.
Speaker 4: But I really view it more subjective.
Speaker 3: It's like a piece of art in that if I
Speaker 3: paint you a picture, it's going to have more meaning
Speaker 3: because it's for you.
Speaker 4: And if someone else sees.
Speaker 3: That picture, they might go, oh I could paint that,
Speaker 3: or oh that's not a very great picture. But if
Speaker 3: it means something the person I'm reading, then that for
Speaker 3: me is the point implicitly, would.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the first time that you felt something
Speaker 1: was different about the way you were perceiving the world
Speaker 1: and the beyond, Like, do you remember the first time
Speaker 1: that that happened?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: I found that when I really was ten years old,
Speaker 3: in April of two thousand and six, I had my
Speaker 3: first premonition of my grandmother's death. But there were so
Speaker 3: many moments as a kid, as an only child who
Speaker 3: very much was a loner and very much kept to myself,
Speaker 3: that I found that I would just so often see
Speaker 3: myself and other people. And it's kind of a hard
Speaker 3: thing to explain, but I never truly felt alone, despite
Speaker 3: spending a lot of time alone. And when I would
Speaker 3: say with people, we'd oftentimes go into these really deep conversations.
Speaker 3: Even when I was a kid, and even when talking
Speaker 3: to adults, I could just tell was not normal. And
Speaker 3: so I found that often what I was guided to
Speaker 3: discuss with people, they would acknowledge as being timely or
Speaker 3: maybe important, or maybe something on their heart.
Speaker 4: And then I kind of learned, Okay, there's something to this.
Speaker 3: There's an intuition behind why I'm bringing up the things
Speaker 3: I bring up.
Speaker 2: Yes, now on that topic of like guidance or being guided,
Speaker 2: how much of what your reception is is like your
Speaker 2: own intuition, something in the form of a guide, something
Speaker 2: in the form of what is kind of like kinetically
Speaker 2: happening through the scribbles, Like how does that all come
Speaker 2: together for you on sure Cauria, Well.
Speaker 3: The scribbles just kind of act as a process that
Speaker 3: allows me to open up and kind of turn on,
Speaker 3: so that when I'm not scribbling, I can kind of
Speaker 3: turn off and maintain a conversation.
Speaker 4: But when I open.
Speaker 3: Up, you know, it's basically a process in which there
Speaker 3: are a lot of impressions that I have to navigate
Speaker 3: and then deliver and very oftentimes you know, it'll be
Speaker 3: very clear, and then other times I have to make
Speaker 3: inferences based off of the symbology that comes through, so
Speaker 3: it gets kind of convoluted sometimes in an in certain explanations.
Speaker 3: I think there's an aspect of intuitive poll that one
Speaker 3: might have sometimes just to say things, and even if
Speaker 3: you don't know where it's coming from, if it makes sense,
Speaker 3: you know it has.
Speaker 1: I wonder too, like so when this is when you
Speaker 1: were very young that you first realized is what.
Speaker 4: Nine ten years old?
Speaker 1: Yes, So that's usually the age too when you start
Speaker 1: realizing a lot of things about yourself. So there's a
Speaker 1: lot to reconcile. You're becoming yourself and you're stepping into
Speaker 1: your identity. And also there's this other thing. I wonder like,
Speaker 1: when you were younger, did you experience like overwhelm and
Speaker 1: anxiety about this stuff and like your mother figures into
Speaker 1: your show, Yes, but I wonder like, how difficult was
Speaker 1: that to have not only the burden of growing up
Speaker 1: and everything that comes with that no matter who you are,
Speaker 1: but also this other thing and how did that manifest
Speaker 1: itself in your life?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You know, I think in many ways I'm thankful for
Speaker 3: being gay, Yeah, because I feel like it helped me,
Speaker 3: from a very early age understand that there are going
Speaker 3: to be people who inherently don't like you for being different,
Speaker 3: and coming to that conclude vision was tough pill to swallow,
Speaker 3: especially if someone was sensitive and still very sensitive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I learned to kind of reframe it.
Speaker 3: To view it as something that was worth having courage for,
Speaker 3: and that individuality and that self sacrifice ultimately was worth it,
Speaker 3: and I think is worth it for anybody who can
Speaker 3: live and be true to who they are, you know,
Speaker 3: the world responds. But it was a challenge a group
Speaker 3: in a very conservative household who a lot of Christians,
Speaker 3: in particular of the denomination I came from, you know,
Speaker 3: were not into mediums, felt that it was the devil
Speaker 3: and being villainized in that way. I think a lot
Speaker 3: of gay people can't relate to being told there's.
Speaker 4: Something wrong with you.
Speaker 3: But to be able to then take a step back
Speaker 3: and realize that what makes us unique is our superpower,
Speaker 3: that it's one of the greatest gifts we can give
Speaker 3: to the world, is that courage to be true to
Speaker 3: who we are and what makes us different. And that's
Speaker 3: the lesson I learned in California.
Speaker 4: I did Central California. It's a lot of agriculture.
Speaker 3: We got cows, we got prisons, we got we got
Speaker 3: colcim persons. If you get in trouble, you just walk
Speaker 3: across the street and they just put you in the
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I mean, like growing up there, do.
Speaker 2: You feel this like directional poll to the cities in
Speaker 2: the state, Like right, Like was that always like a
Speaker 2: target you were calling? Like if I had my brothers.
Speaker 2: Once I get them, I'm gonna I'm gonna skip up town.
Speaker 3: Yes, well, you know I was looking if Hanford had
Speaker 3: a train station and they would take us to LA.
Speaker 4: When I was but a munchkin. I was a I
Speaker 4: don't know that's politically correct.
Speaker 5: I was little.
Speaker 4: I was I was under eighteen, I was around sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 3: I would hop on the train and go to LA
Speaker 3: and sometimes I'd tell my parents sometimes I wouldn't be
Speaker 3: like later. And you know, that allowed me to both
Speaker 3: have an identity, have some individuality, have some freedom, never
Speaker 3: got in any trouble short.
Speaker 4: Of a couple of things. Yeah, but that allowed me
Speaker 4: to really put it to the test and be able
Speaker 4: to see that I can rely on myself, that there
Speaker 4: is hope, and that if you stick around, you know,
Speaker 4: life generally does get better.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so at what point, like you talk about
Speaker 1: growing up in California, you know you're drawn to LA.
Speaker 1: Eventually you do move there. And we have Tyler Henry
Speaker 1: Hollywood Medium, which is really the show that puts you
Speaker 1: on the map. So the conceit of that show is
Speaker 1: Tyler doesn't know celebrities, like he doesn't know who these
Speaker 1: people are. He's coming in blind. I wonder, like, now
Speaker 1: clear of that show, like how true was that? And
Speaker 1: also when someone walked in and you did know them,
Speaker 1: does that change your process totally?
Speaker 3: So when it came to that, I genuinely was never
Speaker 3: told where I was going or who I was reading,
Speaker 3: And especially in season one, I was a baby. I
Speaker 3: came in this little town that it really just wasn't
Speaker 3: very interested in pop culture or even really television. And
Speaker 3: so naturally, as my career started being warrented around celebrities,
Speaker 3: it became one of the more frustrating aspects of my
Speaker 3: job reading people who have everything about them on the
Speaker 3: internet and even fans of them who oftentimes know their
Speaker 3: entire history, and then by genuinely not knowing who they were,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't know what they discussed in an interview or
Speaker 3: what was public or what was even obvious sometimes and
Speaker 3: that was one of the downsides of actually not knowing
Speaker 3: what I was going into.
Speaker 1: And I guess that would feed like a skepticism on
Speaker 1: the audience's part, where you know, Khlae Kardashkian comes in
Speaker 1: and sits down and then there's you like and the
Speaker 1: conceit is he doesn't know who that is, but I
Speaker 1: believe that, yeah.
Speaker 4: Well there was one of you recognizing Megan Fox though.
Speaker 4: That was very horrible and totally and I love you.
Speaker 3: And to be fair too, I came on, you know,
Speaker 3: the Kardashians as one of my first gigs ever, and.
Speaker 4: So I definitely knew them, knew Chloe, you know, and
Speaker 4: all of that.
Speaker 3: But by and large, I mean, there were a lot
Speaker 3: of instances where people would come and answer the door
Speaker 3: and they look like an older version of themselves.
Speaker 4: I remember Bobby Brown answered the.
Speaker 3: Door when he was dressed in like sweatpants and like
Speaker 3: a T shirt, and like the Bobby Brown of the
Speaker 3: eighties is very different in appearance than.
Speaker 4: The Bobby Brown and Whitney came through, and Whitney came through.
Speaker 3: So it just reflects to me this idea that we're
Speaker 3: all human, we're all looking for the same things. And
Speaker 3: what I always found so substantiating in those readings was
Speaker 3: the things that couldn't be googled, couldn't have been told
Speaker 3: from an interview that someone gave, and that you know,
Speaker 3: they know celebrities are oftentimes the first to look themselves
Speaker 3: up and see what was out there. So I always
Speaker 3: had to kind of go for those things that were
Speaker 3: largely unknown.
Speaker 2: What happened in the space between you moving to LA
Speaker 2: and I might be getting the order of events wrong,
Speaker 2: but you make a name for yourself as medium, how
Speaker 2: does that turn into the show?
Speaker 4: It was a work in progress, you know.
Speaker 3: My first celebrity client was with Sarah Paulson and I
Speaker 3: I read her and that came through a phone call.
Speaker 4: One day. She called me up and said, hey, I
Speaker 4: heard that you're a medium. Wow, I like reading, and
Speaker 4: so I gave her one.
Speaker 3: My hand was shaking, and she has had any love
Speaker 3: life advice for Jessica Lang And then I about poot
Speaker 3: my pants.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Oh my god, I'm going into gay purgatory.
Speaker 4: This is amazing. I was like transitioning.
Speaker 5: That was the first celebrity event was about Jessica.
Speaker 4: I was so iconic. And then from there, you know,
Speaker 4: just kind of evolved.
Speaker 3: I ended up getting interest from the network, which being
Speaker 3: a celebrity based platform, they only wanted to show about
Speaker 3: me reading celebrity, which for me wasn't really my passion
Speaker 3: or my goal at the beginning, of.
Speaker 4: Course, but it allowed for good exposure.
Speaker 3: It allowed me to ultimately connect with demographics of people
Speaker 3: that would have never even known what a medium was.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I was so proud to be able to
Speaker 3: sit with Little Kim Yeah, and Biggie Yes, and Biggie
Speaker 3: and you know, little John, And there were just so
Speaker 3: many different groups of people that we were able to
Speaker 3: tap into, but in a way that reflected a universal need.
Speaker 3: Everybody has these questions.
Speaker 1: I remember watching that Little Kim interview and I was like,
Speaker 1: is Tyler Henry gonna.
Speaker 5: Solve Biggie's murder right now? I say, cuts a commercial on.
Speaker 1: Her being like, well, I think everyone will want to
Speaker 1: know who killed him, honestly. But then you did say
Speaker 1: a lot of things like it was definitely somebody he knew,
Speaker 1: and that is you know, I think as time goes by,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say anything, but it becomes clearer that
Speaker 1: that may have been the case. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: gotta be kind of surreal when it becomes like a
Speaker 1: really big question or when it comes to fruition and
Speaker 1: you were correct in such an alarming way, like, for example,
Speaker 1: when you mentioned to Alan Thick that he needed to
Speaker 1: watch his heart. That was that had to be very
Speaker 1: like sobering to realize what had happened for you, And
Speaker 1: I wonder, do you ever hedge when you're telling someone
Speaker 1: what is really going on, Like you don't want to
Speaker 1: tell Alan think that you see a massive heart attack
Speaker 1: coming his way.
Speaker 4: Right. All I can really do is deliver the information.
Speaker 3: And it's been one of the most challenging parts of
Speaker 3: my job because there'sn't a school you can go to
Speaker 3: to like become a medium writer or read a book
Speaker 3: and understand the ins and outs of the complexities of
Speaker 3: that job. So when I say it with someone, I
Speaker 3: viewed as a responsibility to impart with them something valuable,
Speaker 3: something they can take and apply in a practical way
Speaker 3: in their life. And in that case with Alan, it
Speaker 3: was you go get your heart checked. But I went
Speaker 3: on about it for about two or three minutes, and
Speaker 3: even I saw the unedited clip thereafter they had sent it,
Speaker 3: and I just was railing on him about going and
Speaker 3: doing this, and he just laughed it off and said, oh, thanks,
Speaker 3: doctor Tyler.
Speaker 4: Yeah he was.
Speaker 1: He did not take it serious.
Speaker 3: And you know, and and it was frustrating because the
Speaker 3: bottom line is all older men should keep in mind
Speaker 3: their heart. Everyone at the bottom line should get a
Speaker 3: check up if you have health insurance, like, could you know,
Speaker 3: be on top of your.
Speaker 2: Health if you can, and you need to book the
Speaker 2: ET So I need to book the NT. I literally
Speaker 2: got off a plane the other day and I am
Speaker 2: my throat.
Speaker 1: Well, it's so funny and like you know, he he
Speaker 1: often does need more rest after Oh my god, you do.
Speaker 1: He flies a lot and he travels a lot. I'm
Speaker 1: saying that is the thing.
Speaker 5: Like him mentioning air travel and needing to rest.
Speaker 4: My god, you're mister worldwide. You're all over.
Speaker 1: Trying to make it so that he can be.
Speaker 5: That was crazy. I mean like, and I will be
Speaker 5: watching my stomach now because my stomach has changed. I
Speaker 5: mean I'm a thirty four year old man.
Speaker 1: Yes, but like it is.
Speaker 5: I will say, like, if you see something really dark
Speaker 5: with my stomach, you can tell me.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no nothing there, just you know, just to
Speaker 4: watch the inflammation.
Speaker 1: That's not what you want to be the thing that's wrong.
Speaker 1: No stomach, that is so, that is true.
Speaker 4: No no hemorrhoids here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no thing, no, No. Do you ever see this
Speaker 1: stuff for yourself?
Speaker 4: Sometimes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there has been times that actually life or
Speaker 3: death situations I find are able to kind of bypass
Speaker 3: that inherent bias that I have about myself. So I'm
Speaker 3: a bit of like a hypochondriac. I'm always worried that
Speaker 3: something's wrong with me. But there have been times where
Speaker 3: my intuition superseded that. I remember I was in the
Speaker 3: car with my mom one day and it was like, Mom,
Speaker 3: I think my brain swelling, I have water on the brain,
Speaker 3: and she was like, okay, drama queen, whatever.
Speaker 4: And I ended up.
Speaker 3: Actually a couple of weeks later, getting hospitalized with hydrocephalus,
Speaker 3: which is water on the brain, and I'd had a
Speaker 3: brain cyst near my brain stem that was cutting off
Speaker 3: cerebral spinal fluid from flowing when new emergency brain surgery.
Speaker 4: Still have the scar, and.
Speaker 3: Still actually have the cyst, which has grown a little
Speaker 3: bit since. But Yeah, that awareness was bizarre and clearly
Speaker 3: something else was looking out for me at a very
Speaker 3: integral time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is anyone else in your family touched with this gift?
Speaker 1: How do you explain it? Like when you say touched
Speaker 1: with the gift, Like, what do you say?
Speaker 5: Just like, you know, I.
Speaker 3: Consider it an ability, just like anything else, right, And
Speaker 3: we all have instincts, right, we all can shake someone's
Speaker 3: hand and get a feeling, or you give someone a
Speaker 3: hug and you kind of pull back and you get
Speaker 3: a fleeting moment of a sense of something, and I
Speaker 3: think people just don't really take it beyond that.
Speaker 4: I think we all could, oh, interesting.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were so attuned to this moment with your
Speaker 2: grandmother as a child that kind of was undeniable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And being an only child and being a loner
Speaker 3: actually helped me. I think in some ways it allowed
Speaker 3: me to not be influenced by other people's ideas of
Speaker 3: what is okay and what's not okay, and what's appropriate
Speaker 3: and what's inappropriate. And so I would, you know, sometimes
Speaker 3: tell my teachers things about themselves. My algebra teacher in
Speaker 3: ninth grade, I shared with her message from her former
Speaker 3: mother in law and got into descriptions of what led
Speaker 3: to her divorce and various things. And it was very humbling, because,
Speaker 3: you know, in a certain way, she had tears in
Speaker 3: her eyes, and the tables kind of turned from a
Speaker 3: kind of power dynamic of you know, you're there with
Speaker 3: your teacher. But I realized in that moment that it
Speaker 3: was something that, when applied in the right way, could
Speaker 3: really have an impact on someone's life. And this was
Speaker 3: someone who did not have a biological mother of her
Speaker 3: own who really loved her. So when she got into
Speaker 3: this family and got into this marriage, you know, she
Speaker 3: thought she'd finally got that mom that she always wanted,
Speaker 3: and she did.
Speaker 4: That didn't end just because the divorce.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, this is the thing that I think
Speaker 2: kind of transcends any skepticism around this idea of clairvoyance. Right,
Speaker 2: It's like, well, not to make this comparison. It's such
Speaker 2: a gross comparison. But like like with astrology, it's like
Speaker 2: it is in ways pseudo scientific, but it is giving
Speaker 2: meaning to people. It's giving people a way to model
Speaker 2: themselves and their behavior and examine.
Speaker 4: Parts of their life.
Speaker 2: I feel like you having this impact on people the
Speaker 2: world over and on such a large scale is so meaningful.
Speaker 2: Talk about what you're excited about with this four what's
Speaker 2: the run of show going to be? What's that going
Speaker 2: to want to look like?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, well, there's a lot, we have thirty two cities
Speaker 3: across the US. Busy, yes, But basically it's it's a
Speaker 3: show generally goes ninety to an hour and a half.
Speaker 4: Let's see how I'm bad with math, yeah, but you
Speaker 4: know an hour and a half to two hours.
Speaker 3: Yes, gifts, math is not one of them all day,
Speaker 3: but I get to travel and basically read audience members
Speaker 3: and you know, sometimes there's two thousand people, sims, there's
Speaker 3: five thousand, and the big crux of that is going
Speaker 3: and figuring out where I'm at in the audience, delivering
Speaker 3: the message in a timely way, and then moving on.
Speaker 3: You know, it's almost like the clock is ticking when
Speaker 3: you're on stage. For any performer, you know you can relate.
Speaker 3: And so with my job, I have to be able
Speaker 3: to kind of go to the clearest line of connection,
Speaker 3: generally the path of least resistance. Yes, and I have
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of ways that I kind of do
Speaker 3: that mentally. But it ultimately allows us to have a
Speaker 3: shared experience where, whether you're read or not, seeing the
Speaker 3: process live unedited can be really cathartic and really interesting
Speaker 3: because you see how many similarities people have, both with
Speaker 3: the people being read and oftentimes the experiences that are
Speaker 3: informing it. The amount of people who have had an
Speaker 3: experience with a ghost but don't believe in ghosts, it
Speaker 3: is huge, Right, There's a famous quote of everybody has
Speaker 3: a ghost story, not everybody believes in ghosts. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: you find that to kind of be exemplified in these
Speaker 3: readings that people just don't feel comfortable talking about sometimes
Speaker 3: these anomalous things, but you realize they are universal and
Speaker 3: they do apply and can be comforting.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: On that so, like you describe the way that you're
Speaker 1: communicating as sensory, but do you believe in the type
Speaker 1: of ghost that people talk about seeing, Like, do you
Speaker 1: think that like it's possible or have you experienced these
Speaker 1: things that you sense like physicalizing in the world.
Speaker 4: I think it's certainly possible. You know.
Speaker 3: There's those kind of ideas of hauntings and ghosts and
Speaker 3: things that go bump in the night, And for me,
Speaker 3: I take a more human approach in the sense that
Speaker 3: when I connect with an individual or I have someone
Speaker 3: you know come through and say, I try to communicate
Speaker 3: with my loved one, I tell people to remember these
Speaker 3: departed people are our brothers, our sisters, our family, our grandparents.
Speaker 3: They're not things that go bump in the night. And
Speaker 3: so we have an experience, as far as our inclination
Speaker 3: may be to be afraid, you know, I encourage people
Speaker 3: to appreciate the ambiguity. We don't have to understand something
Speaker 3: for hit to have meaning, and that's been a big
Speaker 3: lesson to your point about astrology too. I think there's
Speaker 3: this idea of you know, causal versus correlative, and I
Speaker 3: do not believe that the stars, you know, cause things
Speaker 3: to happen here. What I do think is that there
Speaker 3: are certain correlations that have been made archetypally, the way
Speaker 3: that things are seemed often reflected a deeper pattern, and
Speaker 3: for me, that's what a lot of metaphysics kind of
Speaker 3: revolves around, is the underlying patterns of reality, but not in.
Speaker 4: A causal sense, more of a correlative sense.
Speaker 1: Sure, I have to say, like a recent theme on
Speaker 1: this podcast is we went to a psychic in New
Speaker 1: York and the experience ended up being one where I'm
Speaker 1: very sensitive and susceptible as well. Bowen is more discerning
Speaker 1: than me, especially in this situation, but I ended up
Speaker 1: losing a lot of money because someone kind of ran
Speaker 1: me around. And I think that what I so appreciate
Speaker 1: about what you do and what you've done for us,
Speaker 1: is that you've given us helpful healing information and you've
Speaker 1: sort of pointed us. But you're not scaring us, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that's what I was dealing with is I
Speaker 1: was kind of put in a position where essentially I
Speaker 1: had to pay this person in order for her to
Speaker 1: do spiritual work.
Speaker 5: And I would say, I guess my question was predictive.
Speaker 1: It was predictive.
Speaker 2: I feel like he's going to do that, this person's
Speaker 2: going to do this, and like that leaves you in
Speaker 2: a terrible position of waiting for that thing to happen, right.
Speaker 1: I mean I was basically told I would get back
Speaker 1: together with my ex boyfriend if I allowed her to
Speaker 1: do what she was going to do, and there was
Speaker 1: a price tag on it, Yes, and I fell for that,
Speaker 1: And so there's a lot of people that are falling
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, And so I guess what would you
Speaker 1: say are the warning signs or things to avoid holistically
Speaker 1: when it comes to people who, yes, may experience things
Speaker 1: like you would have a gift similar to yours, but
Speaker 1: are going about it in like a nefarious Sure.
Speaker 3: Well, I think by and large, there should never be
Speaker 3: a hook right when you sit with someone. And it's
Speaker 3: true whether we are going to a doctor or a
Speaker 3: therapist or a psychic or any practitioner.
Speaker 4: You know, it's important that there not be a hook
Speaker 4: like a chiropractor. You know, oh you need ten more, right,
Speaker 4: I'm just like and to be fair, you know, it
Speaker 4: is such a subjective field.
Speaker 3: Anybody can claim to be a psychic, right, there is
Speaker 3: no better business bureau for psychics. And because of that,
Speaker 3: it leads to a whole menagerie of different personalities. But
Speaker 3: I find with people, generally, good advice is to go
Speaker 3: through a recommendation of someone that has been seen by
Speaker 3: someone that you know.
Speaker 4: That's usually a good angle to go.
Speaker 3: And then also, and this is gonna be funny, because
Speaker 3: my name is Tyler Henry and so what is technically
Speaker 3: a stage name, but actually avoiding people who you can't
Speaker 3: figure out their last name, Oh that's a bad sign
Speaker 3: in the psychic industry. So if it's like if it's
Speaker 3: if I'm Maria Jade, well, Maria jd can't be googled,
Speaker 3: and we can't look at Maria Jade's you know, criminal history.
Speaker 3: So generally go with people who are at the very
Speaker 3: least aren't concealing their real name. My last name is
Speaker 3: cool Wine, but that's on Wikipedia, so you can cool
Speaker 3: on too many valves. It's k O E l E
Speaker 3: w wyan.
Speaker 4: So I love that it looks nice on the page,
Speaker 4: feels really good.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm saying right now, this psychic had one name,
Speaker 1: and it was a very psychic y name.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what was it again? Oh, we can't pick this out.
Speaker 4: That is the most psychic name, most psychic name.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is so funny, leading into the question that's
Speaker 1: like the central question of this podcast. There's so much
Speaker 1: media about psychics, like we have medium which started putri
Speaker 1: Ar Cat, which was based on Alison Dubois. Yes, we've
Speaker 1: got you know, lots of things out there, such as
Speaker 1: the sixth Sense. Yes, obviously by my trembla on that
Speaker 1: was kind of like a huge pop culture moment. I wonder,
Speaker 1: is there a piece of media that is related to
Speaker 1: what you do that you feel you really identify with.
Speaker 3: Or Oh god, I have a horrible answer for this.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I identify with it. But I
Speaker 3: think that the dinner party from hell.
Speaker 4: Alis did you both with the cigarette?
Speaker 1: You recognize?
Speaker 4: That fascinating.
Speaker 3: I think that's such a good demonstration that conveys the
Speaker 3: fact that mediums are people and they can get drunk,
Speaker 3: just like everybody else, and they aren't these infalliable creatures
Speaker 3: who are like these mythical that deserve to be revered mediums.
Speaker 3: And the people who have this ability genuinely are usually
Speaker 3: tortured people. And Alison herself in her books has talked
Speaker 3: about alcohol and how it as a medium.
Speaker 4: It's very easy to self medicate.
Speaker 3: And so I felt that despite the fact that it
Speaker 3: was handled all wrong, years later, you know, we find
Speaker 3: that the message that she had did indeed in the
Speaker 3: being true. It was not done in the right way,
Speaker 3: nor at the right time or place, but they also
Speaker 3: pushed her, and so I think it was so interesting
Speaker 3: just to see that, almost like a cornered animal, what
Speaker 3: they do, how they respond, and she responded, and I
Speaker 3: think it really created a broader conversation about ethics, what's
Speaker 3: right what's wrong in that setting.
Speaker 4: But it was just a fascinating piece of entertainment right there.
Speaker 2: There is a danger to it, I'm sure you felt,
Speaker 2: and you don't have to bring it up an example,
Speaker 2: but like I'm sure you have felt somewhat endangered in
Speaker 2: that situation where what I was saying earlier, people are
Speaker 2: coming at you with so much expectation, baggage, and they
Speaker 2: want you to beat this infallible person, right.
Speaker 3: And I think it's so important to remind people this
Speaker 3: work is humbling. Every single day I'm reminded of any
Speaker 3: inclination of an answer that I seem to get only
Speaker 3: brings up a million more questions. And it's just so
Speaker 3: humbling to realize that I don't have to have all
Speaker 3: the answers, that I don't even have to have a
Speaker 3: semblance of them, to feel that joy that is brought through,
Speaker 3: you know, from those on the other side, and to
Speaker 3: know that there's more to life than what we see,
Speaker 3: and there's a.
Speaker 4: Certain self assuredness there.
Speaker 3: I'm willing to deal with being criticized and deal with
Speaker 3: skepticism of the kazusin so I as a teenager because
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 4: That inherently what I'm doing is real.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And when you know that, when you close your eyes
Speaker 3: and I can go to bed and you're like, I
Speaker 3: know that was real even though no one else believed
Speaker 3: in it. There's a certain confidence that comes from that
Speaker 3: that has allowed me to keep going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real self knowledge, That is self knowledge that
Speaker 2: is not defined by other people.
Speaker 1: Yes, and pretty amazing that you were able to have
Speaker 1: that self knowledge and be confident at a young age
Speaker 1: because it was something like I said, you know, when
Speaker 1: you are so convinced you're a freaking no matter who
Speaker 1: you are, when you're ten eleven years old, it's really
Speaker 1: kind of impressive that you were able to be like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm standing here with my own two feet. This is
Speaker 1: my truth, and not that I can prove it, but
Speaker 1: I will prove it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you have obviously, And.
Speaker 4: That's a fork in the road. It's an inflection point.
Speaker 2: Why either you go full tell some to being whatever
Speaker 2: a freaky think you are, or you start to correct
Speaker 2: quote unquote that thing, and that is kind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which would be a total shame, right, you know, absolutely.
Speaker 1: So the central question of our podcast is, Tyler Henry,
Speaker 1: what was the culture that made you say culture was
Speaker 1: for you? So this is basically that formative pop culture
Speaker 1: that now Tyler Now knows.
Speaker 5: That's how Tyler Now started from Tyler then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I will actually say the Amanda Show
Speaker 3: Nickelod Amanda Bins, Oh my god, extraordinarily timely.
Speaker 1: And we're natural gift over there.
Speaker 3: You know. I think it's actually extremely timely because it
Speaker 3: shows how she was able to both go through so
Speaker 3: much as a child star, as so many do, but
Speaker 3: also to be able to carry a show on her own,
Speaker 3: to show and to give access from a larger audience
Speaker 3: that that kids are multifaceted, that they're not just these
Speaker 3: little things that you know, need tell tuppies. She was
Speaker 3: able through that show to be able to in a
Speaker 3: big way, treat children as human beings, yeah, worthy of
Speaker 3: being entertained, worthy of having, you know, intellectual jokes. And
Speaker 3: I felt that that was really a big pop culture
Speaker 3: shift where we started empowering younger people to be able
Speaker 3: to carry shows on their own. And if we could
Speaker 3: get her on SML, can you imagine the.
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: And I think I think in another world like she
Speaker 1: could have taken over them, could have taken over the
Speaker 1: entire industry.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, You're so right, she was able to. I think
Speaker 2: watching her as kids, my thought was like, how is
Speaker 2: someone my age doing this in a way that was
Speaker 2: like just totally literally incredible, Like I don't believe this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there was something too about like the way
Speaker 1: I remember the adults in my life reacting to her
Speaker 1: like she was John Belushi, Right. I remember my dad
Speaker 1: being like this girl is the sketch where she was
Speaker 1: on the pillows. I think it was all that this
Speaker 1: wasn't the amounta show. It was like she was like
Speaker 1: a little girl at a sleepover or something, hosting some
Speaker 1: show from her bedroom and she was just crushing it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and my dad was like, this girl is so funny.
Speaker 1: My dad was in love with, not in love with.
Speaker 1: My dad loved Amanda Mines and Raven Stimo. Great talk
Speaker 1: about having the gift. There you go, But there was
Speaker 1: this ability she had to ground herself in character that
Speaker 1: again I make a joke about her having like a gift,
Speaker 1: like a supernatural gift. But there is something so intuitive
Speaker 1: about anyone that does like really good character work or
Speaker 1: sketch comedy. And she was doing it at nine.
Speaker 4: Insane.
Speaker 3: Yeahsane, And it's so funny to your note about charisma.
Speaker 3: You know, historically charisma used to be viewed as a
Speaker 3: psychic ability. Oh, chrisma, Charisma the ability for people to
Speaker 3: speak and people to listen. In the early nineteen hundreds
Speaker 3: was viewed more as a psychic ability than just a
Speaker 3: personality eight. And so it even relates to psychic.
Speaker 5: Stuff like people wondering why am I drawn to this person.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's and and why is it that when some
Speaker 3: people speak, we listen, and then other times some people
Speaker 3: speak and they could have a perfectly great message, but
Speaker 3: they just don't have that connective factor.
Speaker 2: It's fascinating, it's energetic, it is energetic. Yeah, there was
Speaker 2: cable in the house, even in this highly conservative house.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, we didn't have a TV. We weren't just
Speaker 4: a massaging the cows.
Speaker 5: A title.
Speaker 3: Had a bowl and actually and it used to chase
Speaker 3: me and it was yeah, no, it it was not great.
Speaker 1: The bull would chase the bull.
Speaker 4: Would chase me.
Speaker 3: He ended up I think his name was t bone Bone,
Speaker 3: which was very apt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then he ended up getting turned into a
Speaker 4: t bone. But I'm a vegetarian, so.
Speaker 1: I worked this is going to be a bizarre question.
Speaker 1: But do you believe that your ability to connect informs
Speaker 1: your your vegetarianism?
Speaker 4: Somewhat somewhat there?
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I try not overthink it when i'm
Speaker 3: meet and like, you know, if I'm well not so
Speaker 3: it might be not trick ful.
Speaker 4: But for me, they know, I know, I try.
Speaker 3: To like I'm selectively of course to be honest, sharing
Speaker 3: but got it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that has to.
Speaker 2: I guess what we're asking is, do you think there
Speaker 2: is a connection there with your ability?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think for sure.
Speaker 3: I think when it comes to just like putting things
Speaker 3: in your body generally, like if there's a lot of
Speaker 3: trauma behind that, which behind that the organism went through
Speaker 3: to get into your body. Like, I don't know how
Speaker 3: I feel as far as a consensus goes, but I
Speaker 3: try to avoid just like choun down them too much.
Speaker 2: Of course, I feel like the hypochondria that you are
Speaker 2: diagnosing yourself with is mostly you being extremely thoughtful about
Speaker 2: just bodies and health, because it seems like that is
Speaker 2: an anchor for a lot of your reading.
Speaker 3: It is, and it just kind of speaks the fact
Speaker 3: that we all have a physicality, we all have susceptibilities,
Speaker 3: but knowledge is power, and you know we can avoid things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly would you have been like in the medical profession.
Speaker 3: So I graduated high school when I was sixteen to
Speaker 3: try to become a hospice nurse.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, the phrase to kill two birds with one stone
Speaker 3: comes to mind. You know, I thought to do medium
Speaker 3: readings and then perhaps you know, go down that route.
Speaker 4: But I read the dean of my College of all things. Wow.
Speaker 3: And I know it doesn't sound real, it sounds insane,
Speaker 3: but he indeed he told me, he was like, you know,
Speaker 3: we did this for me, this is very powerful. Maybe
Speaker 3: you should.
Speaker 4: Consider doing it for other people.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: And so I kind of had to at that point
Speaker 3: in life, between Sarah Paulson calling me within a very
Speaker 3: short proximity and being like, Okay, am I going to
Speaker 3: be there for the elderly and the dying?
Speaker 4: Or am I going to like go to Hollywood. It
Speaker 4: was a very very weird position.
Speaker 3: But I ultimately was able to achieve through this work
Speaker 3: what I always wanted to do, which was just to
Speaker 3: validate that there's more.
Speaker 1: How do you.
Speaker 5: Release this stuff?
Speaker 1: Because I would imagine that carrying all of this is
Speaker 1: incredibly taxing and ken in its own way, be traumatic.
Speaker 1: If you were to read someone who has been through
Speaker 1: something traumatic, like I wonder what you experienced when you
Speaker 1: were telling me that you were feeling someone was alive, alive, alive,
Speaker 1: felt very old, and then died? Like how do you
Speaker 1: experience that and then release that?
Speaker 3: I find that the release comes from delivering the message,
Speaker 3: so very often when I say it, it will kind
Speaker 3: of get alleviated in some way. If I don't say something, though,
Speaker 3: it oftentimes will feel like it's building up. And that's
Speaker 3: one of the most frustrating things is when I leave
Speaker 3: and if something was still coming through and I couldn't
Speaker 3: say it, it'll just kind of sit with me. So
Speaker 3: you kind of learn how to blow off that necessary
Speaker 3: steam and then you know, reallocate one's.
Speaker 2: Energy, right, and once you're done scribbling, that is kind
Speaker 2: of your parameter of like Okay, we're done, yes, which
Speaker 2: is not a release necessary, but it is a demarcation
Speaker 2: of yeah, it's finished exactly.
Speaker 4: It's a demarcation.
Speaker 3: It's a excellent way of kind of bifurcating and saying
Speaker 3: I'm on and now I'm on yeh.
Speaker 1: Now is that your choice or when you say it?
Speaker 1: Because we probably did that for about fifteen twenty minutes,
Speaker 1: But I would imagine that like if there were spirits
Speaker 1: that really needed to keep talking, would you still do
Speaker 1: that or do you end it? You know?
Speaker 3: I used to just kind of go for as long
Speaker 3: as I could, and I always have to be mindful
Speaker 3: of time in other people's time. But I remember with
Speaker 3: Carmen Electra, I read her on Hollywood Medium and we
Speaker 3: sat for I want to say, like close to six
Speaker 3: to eight hours to get well.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 3: It was one of the longest readings we've ever done
Speaker 3: on Hollywood Medium. And and it wasn't because she had
Speaker 3: an exceptional amount of people coming through.
Speaker 4: It was just there was a lot to.
Speaker 3: Work with in her personal life, and it all, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of led to further questions and then further answers,
Speaker 3: and then of course more questions, and six hours later
Speaker 3: we were like, all right, I'm moving in Carmen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I'm sweating a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm completely drained, Like I'm like a potato chip.
Speaker 4: Potato chip. Yes, favorite house that you went to and
Speaker 4: your favorite favorite house. You know.
Speaker 3: Boy George funny enough, and he was one of the
Speaker 3: hardest clients of the two hundred that I read, just
Speaker 3: because you know, he came, he was wearing his makeup,
Speaker 3: he very skeptical to yes, and he had what I
Speaker 3: call his war paint on. You know, he very much
Speaker 3: was Boy George of the persona. And so trying to
Speaker 3: get past that was a challenge with a lot of celebrities,
Speaker 3: trying to kind of penetrate your public image right and
Speaker 3: get into the human side and Willie was able to
Speaker 3: but that that house was fascinating. I mean, it's very
Speaker 3: clear how hard of a worker he was.
Speaker 4: His manager was. There might have been his manager's house,
Speaker 4: So managers are hard work.
Speaker 1: PK. He interrupted the.
Speaker 3: Reading and actually validated a bunch on camera. If you
Speaker 3: haven't seen it, you should check it out. Interrupts is like.
Speaker 4: No, no, now, George, why aren't you validating? You know
Speaker 4: who this is? Who he's talking about it? Wait?
Speaker 1: I think I remember that episode. Maybe it was like
Speaker 1: right when yes, So do you watch the House?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 1: Oh you know, do you ever feel like you so
Speaker 1: when you were watching the Kyle Richards thing happen where
Speaker 1: you like, oh my god, Alison, did you text her?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 4: A lot of the mediums don't really care for each other.
Speaker 4: That's a funny thing to wonder.
Speaker 3: I will tell you because I think it's a career
Speaker 3: that requires for one, it's more than a career. It's
Speaker 3: a calling, and it's a calling that requires people to
Speaker 3: have confidence in who they are and what they feel,
Speaker 3: and like performers, that can sometimes lead to personalities that
Speaker 3: are very intense, very centered around themselves, and that you know,
Speaker 3: doesn't always love people to play well with others.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are these emotional barriers where someone might feel
Speaker 2: perturbed or destabilized by being in the presence of another
Speaker 2: another medium, where they're like, oh, I you know, like
Speaker 2: I imagine insecurity comes into play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely can. But I feel like you seem
Speaker 4: so secure in what you do. Thank you. I try
Speaker 4: my best.
Speaker 3: You know, we all have our stuff, but I just
Speaker 3: try to kind of own the vulnerability.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Is there a medium that you looked up to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a British medium named Lisa Williams. She's not
Speaker 3: as well known, but she sid have a show on
Speaker 3: Lifetime and I really liked her approach. She would sit
Speaker 3: with people and just kind of ramble and I love that.
Speaker 3: It wasn't you know, a thousand questions. It was very
Speaker 3: much just let me sit and let me talk and
Speaker 3: get it all out, and you would have very powerful
Speaker 3: effects on people. So I find that the less the
Speaker 3: person has to say, the better as far as the
Speaker 3: client being read. You want the medium to do the
Speaker 3: majority of the talking.
Speaker 1: Well, some people that's not a problem, like Teresa Capuda
Speaker 1: will just go.
Speaker 4: Off, Oh yeah, she'll bulldoze'll bulldoze you, absolutely, But you know,
Speaker 4: different people resonate with different mediums yea. And so some
Speaker 4: people need, you.
Speaker 3: Know, the East Coast ante with the big hair, right,
Speaker 3: and some people want the you know, quieter gay brother,
Speaker 3: and that's okay, therapist, because everyone resonates with different sources.
Speaker 1: Does this make dating difficult for you?
Speaker 3: I've been with my partner for going on eight years now, yes,
Speaker 3: and I'm twenty eight myself, so it's been since then,
Speaker 3: and if anything, it really helped me. I think something
Speaker 3: we all can do with intuition is really to go
Speaker 3: with those first impressions. So often we are inclined and
Speaker 3: I am. I want to say this. It's important that
Speaker 3: we give people the benefit of the doubt, right, But
Speaker 3: there are times when we know better when we meet
Speaker 3: someone and we know this person, and then we kick
Speaker 3: ourselves later on, going, geehy din't I just listen to
Speaker 3: that gut feeling, right? And that's something that helped me
Speaker 3: in my love life. It allowed me to meet someone
Speaker 3: who I immediately knew the second I saw his photo
Speaker 3: said out loud, oh, I'm going to marry this person.
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, I think this is I
Speaker 1: have the gift too. I have had three boyfriends, have
Speaker 1: you The first time I saw a picture of each
Speaker 1: one of them, I said, that's my boyfriend. What I
Speaker 1: swear to God. Like three months before each of them
Speaker 1: I met each of them, I had seen a picture
Speaker 1: of them, And the second I saw a picture of them,
Speaker 1: I was like, I know that's going to be Wow.
Speaker 4: That's powerful because it just goes to show you know,
Speaker 4: you know what's for you.
Speaker 1: And with two of them I was friends with for
Speaker 1: a while before we started dating, and I kind of
Speaker 1: knew the whole time that it was going to become that.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if I was talking myself into it,
Speaker 1: but you have competitions.
Speaker 5: All I'm saying we.
Speaker 4: Could take it together would fill out to see me
Speaker 4: be like I felt that too. Yeah, you stepped back. Same.
Speaker 1: I just want to say same. I was one undred
Speaker 1: percent on board with this the whole time that now
Speaker 1: you see the photo of your partner, the intuition floods
Speaker 1: in this extends into you meeting him in person.
Speaker 4: That's right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it was one of those things where I was
Speaker 3: already in a relationship with someone who was much older
Speaker 3: than me when I was nineteen, and yeah, it was
Speaker 3: one of those things, and I had it, gotten a
Speaker 3: dog with him, and you know, we were like, oh,
Speaker 3: living a little gay life. And then I see this
Speaker 3: picture of Clan too is my age, and just the
Speaker 3: moment I saw that, I knew, Okay, my life's going
Speaker 3: to change radically. This relationship isn't right for me. I'm
Speaker 3: going to have to give up the dog. I'm going
Speaker 3: to have to end up living somewhere else. But it's
Speaker 3: all worth it for this person. And that might sound
Speaker 3: completely illogical and irrational, but it was a knowingness that
Speaker 3: ultimately proved to be true. I was able to get
Speaker 3: out of that situation that didn't work for me, and
Speaker 3: you know, happily.
Speaker 4: Ever, Wow, a third of your life almost Yeah, with
Speaker 4: the clin it's been amazing. What I love about him
Speaker 4: so much is you know, even as interesting as the
Speaker 4: medium stuff is, it's really more just two human beings
Speaker 4: who really love each other. Oh so beautiful, really lucky
Speaker 4: to be able to have him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing and it also must be quite grounding.
Speaker 1: But I would imagine that you probably hedge with like
Speaker 1: how much you put on his plate too? Yeah, because
Speaker 1: that's gotta be really that's an interesting walk. It's like,
Speaker 1: you want to be able to talk about your day
Speaker 1: at the office, but oftentimes that's obviously extremely personal. You
Speaker 1: must operate in some way like a therapist where there
Speaker 1: is some like you.
Speaker 4: Know, political distance or medium client like privilege.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, there's something to be said about
Speaker 3: compassion fatigue too, which a lot of practitioners of both
Speaker 3: therapy and I think even just interviewing people, you can
Speaker 3: get compassion fatigue, and so something that definitely applies, you know,
Speaker 3: and as a part of it. But I remember I
Speaker 3: unloaded on my boyfriend one day about my work, my dad.
Speaker 4: I unloaded all these oh g.
Speaker 1: You are the daughter.
Speaker 4: The daughter is coming through that.
Speaker 1: Loaded.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's title about a message that I had
Speaker 3: given to someone that day, and it was really heavy.
Speaker 3: And Clint went to his therapist and told his therapist
Speaker 3: told me about you know, his workday.
Speaker 4: Therapist said, well, tell him to stop.
Speaker 5: No, that's interesting, yeah, interesting.
Speaker 3: So I had to learn boundaries and kind of barriers
Speaker 3: and understanding that you know, I don't want to put
Speaker 3: other people's stuff on him.
Speaker 4: For me, you know, it's just my day to day job.
Speaker 4: I'm able to let it go. But it's not always
Speaker 4: the same for those around them.
Speaker 1: What did you do?
Speaker 3: He basically is my assistant photographer, Jack of all trades,
Speaker 3: so he's a I don't drive, so he drives me everywhere.
Speaker 3: Still still twenty eight years old, I know, but hey,
Speaker 3: it's scary those highways.
Speaker 1: You know, they are scary.
Speaker 2: Look, I get there are a lot of people around
Speaker 2: our age who just never never.
Speaker 1: Happened caught on. Yeah, with them. It's one of those
Speaker 1: things too. It's like I ain't never going skiing, So same,
Speaker 1: I'm never going skiing because I know what will happen.
Speaker 1: I know what spirits are telling me.
Speaker 4: Don't Yeah, Sonny bono, don't do that.
Speaker 5: Just one.
Speaker 1: That's just like, that's just one of many. If you
Speaker 1: don't want to drive, don't drive. Exactly, your boyfriend driving
Speaker 1: you if he's busy. You know, your mom famously.
Speaker 4: Drove you exactly.
Speaker 3: She still she's outside down the street. Actually she's actually
Speaker 3: down the street. She loves you, Honestly that I'm hit
Speaker 3: with the mom.
Speaker 1: Yes, four quadron over here. Wait that that's incredible, Like
Speaker 1: I have to say, it's just like I wonder how
Speaker 1: much of me was skeptical coming in. I will say.
Speaker 1: I was on the phone my mother before this, and
Speaker 1: she goes, well, you know, like you guys are on
Speaker 1: Instagram and I'm sure you've talked about things. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I mean, look in a world where this
Speaker 1: is the way it works, because we didn't know you.
Speaker 1: We know that you're on television where a lot of
Speaker 1: shit is fake. Yes, and so I was prepared for
Speaker 1: honestly either thing. But you brought things up and I'm
Speaker 1: sure for you too. Yes, that was very personal and specific.
Speaker 1: Literally the side of my family I wasn't even thinking about.
Speaker 1: I actually was. I have a friend from high school
Speaker 1: I was hoping would come through, But like this side
Speaker 1: of my family, I think is what needed to come through.
Speaker 1: And I think it's the things that I literally had
Speaker 1: probably more questions about with weren't top of mind, just
Speaker 1: because my mother is very she's very private. She doesn't
Speaker 1: share a lot about her history. She very much wanted
Speaker 1: to be like my mom and she didn't want really
Speaker 1: me to know much about like her growing up. But
Speaker 1: I always knew it was tough, like she describes her life,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, on paper, that sounds like that would
Speaker 1: have been really hard. So that's what I mean when
Speaker 1: I say I think what needed to come through from
Speaker 1: me did and I feel like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you feel like.
Speaker 4: I felt that way. Definitely, thank you.
Speaker 3: I'm excited to talk one on one more in depth.
Speaker 3: But we really do find that very often the person
Speaker 3: being redd ends up kind of being a medium themselves
Speaker 3: in the session because they go and tell family members.
Speaker 3: So yeah, information that can also kind of secondarily help them.
Speaker 2: Yes, talk about the Collective is how is this working?
Speaker 2: How do people find out about it?
Speaker 3: So? The Collective is basically a live show but virtual,
Speaker 3: and I paired with Mark Cuban's company.
Speaker 4: Oh so you know I'm going to get some free medication.
Speaker 3: But no, he created this platform. It's basically like a
Speaker 3: podcast basically also though very ikin to kind of like
Speaker 3: a live show where you can bring people up virtually.
Speaker 3: They can be in Oshkosh or South Africa and they
Speaker 3: get to interact and everyone gets to watch and have
Speaker 3: an experience. And I basically do readings on that platform.
Speaker 3: So I do reading giveaways every week, I do group
Speaker 3: readings twice a month, and it's just a really great
Speaker 3: opportunity if people can't come to a live show to
Speaker 3: get to see that process, and people can unsubscribe anytime.
Speaker 3: So whether there for twelve months or a month, it's
Speaker 3: just an opportunity to be able to connect and really
Speaker 3: see the essence of what I do see.
Speaker 4: There's no hook.
Speaker 1: There exactly subscribe, you can unsubscribe, you can suck off
Speaker 1: as far as you know.
Speaker 3: And the interesting thing too, sometimes people will leave, come back, leave,
Speaker 3: come back. And people don't always need to tune in
Speaker 3: every single group reading, but we have people leave some
Speaker 3: ust for six months and say, hey, I need little
Speaker 3: Tyler time. I'd just like to maybe see what happens,
Speaker 3: and then they get something out of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because I can imagine that this is also something
Speaker 1: that would really scare people Like I feel like we
Speaker 1: both came in and we were like, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: But if you have someone that is really close to
Speaker 1: you that you've lost, or if you're in a really
Speaker 1: difficult situation, or you were in a very confusing situation,
Speaker 1: I can imagine that interacting with someone like you can
Speaker 1: feel very vulnerable and revealing.
Speaker 3: Yes, and it's intense. You never know what the medium
Speaker 3: is going to say. There's an element of ambiguity.
Speaker 4: Is it real? Is it fake? Is it objective? Is subjective?
Speaker 3: And that creates a very liminal space for the person
Speaker 3: being read. The person being read kind of gets into
Speaker 3: a state of transition internally where you know, things have
Speaker 3: melted away previously and they don't know where things are
Speaker 3: going to go. And that's a very almost perfect place
Speaker 3: for a person to be in when they're getting read.
Speaker 3: That liminality actually helps the process.
Speaker 2: Or what's the count on the number of readings you
Speaker 2: do in a week and a month in a year, Like,
Speaker 2: do you have that number?
Speaker 4: It's hard to say, cause it fluctuates, but I do.
Speaker 3: I mean countless giveaways as far as usually six private
Speaker 3: one on ones virtually in a week a week, and
Speaker 3: then I have group readings, both in person virtual group
Speaker 3: readings every two weeks, which sometimes they'll go up to
Speaker 3: like ten to fifteen people. So it's a lot, but
Speaker 3: it's like a muscle and one I constantly, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of have to refine and work on or else
Speaker 3: get kind of constipated.
Speaker 1: Spirit constipated spiritually. Maybe that's that's that's constipated comma spiritually
Speaker 1: pretty good? Is that would that be right? Grammar? Sure?
Speaker 4: Or you don't even need the comma necessarily.
Speaker 1: Spiritual, constipated spiritually with the comma kind of like feels.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, if the adverb is coming, is coming after
Speaker 2: the adjective.
Speaker 1: He's been very on his grammar ship.
Speaker 4: Well, this is gonna be a Gwyneth Paltrow candle what definitely?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what do you see for Taylor Swift.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, She's everywhere. He's everywhere. I see her
Speaker 4: constantly come.
Speaker 1: Through and someone's reading and she's like, Hey, my fortune
Speaker 1: drops at a PM.
Speaker 4: Can't you imagine.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm seeing friendship bracelets. She's everywhere. It would
Speaker 3: be very interesting to see if she ends up marrying
Speaker 3: Drivis Kelsey.
Speaker 1: Do you see that first?
Speaker 4: Very possible. I think there stand up people.
Speaker 1: I mean where they ignore the alchemy but don't get
Speaker 1: mad at me swifties. I feel like it's time for
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Yes, this is our segment
Speaker 1: on this podcast that we do every single god d week.
Speaker 5: So I have something I actually don't.
Speaker 1: Know if it exists in the world, but if it does,
Speaker 1: it shouldn't okay, And this just came up today and
Speaker 1: I need to talk about it.
Speaker 4: Theoretical.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey, christ Matt Rodgers, I don't
Speaker 2: think so many as time starts, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Meth gators Apparently, like the Cocaine Bear, gators can get
Speaker 1: into meth and become a meth gat Again. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I read this on a website that's not true,
Speaker 1: but apparently in Florida, if you flush your drugs down
Speaker 1: the toilet so the cops don't find them, where they're
Speaker 1: going is the swamps, and the math gets to eat
Speaker 1: and buy the gators. And can I just tell you
Speaker 1: think in your mind's I what a meth gater is.
Speaker 1: And if you're not saying I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. We have to we have
Speaker 1: a problem with drugs in the track, we really do.
Speaker 1: We have to get into Florida, get the drugs out
Speaker 1: of the home gators, and get the drugs out the gators.
Speaker 1: Because unless it's a film directed by Elizabeth Banks, I
Speaker 1: do not want to see meth Gator. Did I see
Speaker 1: Cocaine Bear? Not yet. I thought maybe it wasn't a
Speaker 1: good thing for the theaters because I thought it would
Speaker 1: be really loud, and I don't know cocaine bearish and
Speaker 1: I can't really bearish that type of film. But at home,
Speaker 1: I'm doing Elizabeth. I'm gonna rent it meth Gator, Elizabeth Banks,
Speaker 1: Come on, I do think so, honey, that's one minute.
Speaker 1: Where did you find out about this Patrick House? Our
Speaker 1: friend house. We have a best friend. We have a
Speaker 1: matching tattoo. That's a house. We have the same last name,
Speaker 1: so we call a house of Rogers. So he sent
Speaker 1: us a because Florida is on mind right now, because
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift is a song called Florida. And so we
Speaker 1: sent us a screenshot of an article and it said
Speaker 1: meth gator is becoming a problem. And he said, what
Speaker 1: did Taylor? No Florida a drug?
Speaker 4: I just found it out about Sheep's heeadfish.
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 4: It is a fish with human teeth?
Speaker 1: How did they get that teeth?
Speaker 4: That's that's my look at that.
Speaker 1: No horrid, isn't that awful?
Speaker 5: That's one of the worst things I've ever seen?
Speaker 1: How how you know?
Speaker 4: Furthermore, I think that's where my copper wire went. Was
Speaker 4: that alligator.
Speaker 1: Not the meth gator? Can you imagine?
Speaker 5: And now I kind of love it as a film.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, talk to Elizabeth means might I might set
Speaker 2: a meeting a meeting, like I might set a meeting
Speaker 2: with Elizabeth.
Speaker 1: Here's a big she's a big production company, huge director.
Speaker 1: You know, she produces all the pitch perfect. So there
Speaker 1: you go, and I believe she directs them.
Speaker 5: So to think she.
Speaker 4: Couldn't get no, absolutely meth Gator off the ground.
Speaker 1: I think Cocaine Bear was a hit.
Speaker 4: Was it was? It has some choreography, the Alligator.
Speaker 5: I think it could be good.
Speaker 2: Yes, the Taylor Swift of movies. It's everywhere. Yeah, there
Speaker 2: you go. Okay, Okay, So now it's going to be
Speaker 2: Bowen's turn. I have something and.
Speaker 1: It's Is it spicy?
Speaker 4: It's spicy.
Speaker 2: It might it might rub people the wrong way, that's okay,
Speaker 2: but it's okay.
Speaker 1: All right, Well this is Bowen yangs. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: As time starts now, I.
Speaker 4: Don't think so, honey. Santa Monica, I just came from you.
Speaker 1: Do you live there?
Speaker 4: Malibu?
Speaker 1: Malibu? Oh? Good for you?
Speaker 4: It's happy for you.
Speaker 2: Tyler again, Santa Monica, what are you even still doing?
Speaker 2: I hadn't been to you in over a decade, and
Speaker 2: I had to go there for a work event today
Speaker 2: and I thought, there's nothing here. Fucking freaks are on
Speaker 2: the boardwalk every day, streaming yelling the rollercoaster. Eight shit,
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey, there's nothing there. Why would
Speaker 2: I ever go to the west side. I'm sorry. Since
Speaker 2: private practice, you have not had a moment Santa Monica.
Speaker 2: You've not had a culturally significant moment.
Speaker 4: And I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think for the Olympics in La in twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 2: we better be doing something with that area where knock
Speaker 2: it down, put.
Speaker 1: Them a parking lot. It's already mostly parking lot.
Speaker 4: Girl.
Speaker 1: Period.
Speaker 2: I think you, I think you really build a lot
Speaker 2: of housing there for people, because there's no one cool
Speaker 2: is living there. I'm sorry if you live in Santa Monica,
Speaker 2: but this is my opinion, and I think we build
Speaker 2: a lot of affordable housing in Santa Monica and then
Speaker 2: that'll actually make it a worthwhile place.
Speaker 1: That's one minute.
Speaker 5: I think that you've never been so dead on.
Speaker 1: It's almost like you have the guys, because you know,
Speaker 1: what we need to do is knock down Santa Monica.
Speaker 2: And put up apartments. But it may it maybe a
Speaker 2: couple of sports venues for the Olympics. If it adds
Speaker 2: to the community one.
Speaker 4: Hundred per If it outs to the community, there's only
Speaker 4: a chance at one.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what Santa Monica is. It's a good picture.
Speaker 1: It's a postcard one picture, one picture down, and you're right,
Speaker 1: that rollercoaster, eight.
Speaker 4: Ship, that Ferris wheel. I've seen bigger.
Speaker 1: One thousand percent. First of all, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: It goes Malibu, Venice. Yes, because I'm a ven now
Speaker 1: in Milana day, I'm in delight Era.
Speaker 5: What do you see for her.
Speaker 4: Tunnels?
Speaker 5: Understand, you're right, You're right right now.
Speaker 1: She be like, no one could have known that. But
Speaker 1: then yeah, down there, down there Malibu.
Speaker 3: Oh well, it's kind of going down Centa. But I
Speaker 3: have a rant against Prius. Prius drivers just no, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm here today.
Speaker 1: I'm right.
Speaker 4: We're going to schedule somebody, Yes, tight schedule and we
Speaker 4: got it. We got it. Now, let's do it. Okay,
Speaker 4: this is Tyler Harris. I don't think so many his
Speaker 4: time starts new I don't think so. Prius drivers are
Speaker 4: the absolute worst. I'm calling out every single listener who
Speaker 4: has a Prius, particularly a gray Prius. I'm gonna throw
Speaker 4: that out there.
Speaker 3: Is driven by cranberry juice and a dream. It is
Speaker 3: motivated down that little highway by the farts of environmentalists.
Speaker 3: It is powered by pure carbon emissions in a great
Speaker 3: feet of irony. And this only goes thirty seconds. Prius
Speaker 3: drivers are on.
Speaker 4: Thirty seconds. He got it out, got it out right.
Speaker 4: That wasnise.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you I think that a lot of
Speaker 1: the readers, Katie's publicist and finalists might be driving a
Speaker 1: Prius and they're going to drive off the road. And
Speaker 1: I would just say, if you've driven off the road,
Speaker 1: call for help. Now hit the star. We're sorry to
Speaker 1: have shaken you.
Speaker 4: So they don't go fast enough to go over a cliff,
Speaker 4: Oh my, they really, They're just gonna come to a
Speaker 4: very gentle stop in the middle of the road.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, Prius is they are a thing of
Speaker 1: the past and should remain in the past.
Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, we need to quit making them just walk, Yes,
Speaker 3: just walk, just walk.
Speaker 2: We're thankful for Prius, this for everything they've done to
Speaker 2: create the model for a hybrid car.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I had a mean dean in high school who
Speaker 2: drove a Prius. She was out to get me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, there was a lot of adults, a lot.
Speaker 4: Of adults in my high school who really did not
Speaker 4: know what to do with did you.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is true, Like he had a theater
Speaker 1: teacher who refused to acknowledge his star quality. And here's
Speaker 1: the thing is like, when you meet Bowen, it's immediately evident,
Speaker 1: and so she was jealous.
Speaker 5: I think a lot of the adults were jealous of you.
Speaker 2: I will shout out one adult who was amazing, Adrian
Speaker 2: hol Dean. He's retiring after years and years of working
Speaker 2: as a one of the best math teachers in the
Speaker 2: country and he was my improv coach.
Speaker 1: There you go, and he gave me.
Speaker 4: My path, which was to do frivolous comedy on stage.
Speaker 1: And while we're doing this, I want to shout out
Speaker 1: my fourth grade teacher, Ted Dumaguard. At the end of
Speaker 1: the year, he looked at me in the eyes and
Speaker 1: he said, you need to take life less seriously because
Speaker 1: your essence is fun and you take yourself too seriously.
Speaker 1: And then I never took myself seriously a single day
Speaker 1: in my life ever, Beautiful, I don't take myself seriously.
Speaker 4: And that is why we love you Tyler. Adults you
Speaker 4: want to shout out, oh, you.
Speaker 3: Know what, shots my mom and dad he exists.
Speaker 1: People are like, where's your dad? Is he just? Is
Speaker 1: he gone?
Speaker 4: Is he in the ether? No, he's just shy.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: The greatest gift you can give your child is to
Speaker 3: love them unconditionally, and when you do so, you become
Speaker 3: foundational to their self esteem. And that's the gift that
Speaker 3: my parents gave me. So beautiful, word up, word up, beautifully.
Speaker 1: Put. This has been such a great experience and what
Speaker 1: an amazing time getting to know you and get to
Speaker 1: talk to you. I can't wait to follow up. I
Speaker 1: know we both can. And you have to go see
Speaker 1: Tyler on tour. Is there a website where they can
Speaker 1: get tickets?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tyler Henry Hollywood medium dot com. There you go, yep,
Speaker 4: Hollywood medium dot com.
Speaker 3: Very un brand right, the other domain was taken, Tyler,
Speaker 3: don't go to that one. That one's a little is it.
Speaker 3: That's a little bit more CD.
Speaker 4: Henry after Dark.
Speaker 5: Here's the thing about Tyler Henry is that's a kind
Speaker 5: of iconic porn name.
Speaker 4: It's a great it's a great porn name. It is
Speaker 4: it is a great medium name. Thank you, Thank you medium,
Speaker 4: you could do both. Medium A T I U M.
Speaker 4: He's a big medium. Meet you very good at that.
Speaker 4: The word play, thank you, very good.
Speaker 1: That see the joke coming. The word episode of every
Speaker 1: episode with the.
Speaker 4: Song yes I can see, I can see.
Speaker 1: What are the words to about?
Speaker 4: I just know the chorus?
Speaker 1: Well, now we're all tortured poets, pilled, so we don't know.
Speaker 1: We totally forgot to speak now. Sorry, sorry Taylor. Bye,