1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome back to the Spirit Daughter Podcast. 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm Joe Winteresting aka Spirit Daughter, and today I'm sitting 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: down and reading the chart of Constance Zimmer. She has 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: played some of the sharpest women on television and in 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: real life she's even more powerful. Pour yourself something warm. 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: You're gonna want to stay for this one. Welcome Constance, 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: So welcome to the Spirit Daughter Podcast. 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 2: I'm so excited I can't even tell you. I mean, 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: I'm so into everything that you do, you say, you post, 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: you put out into the world. I'm just I'm so 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: excited to be here. 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, thank you. Have you had your chart 13 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: read before? Like, how much do you know about your chart? 14 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: I have. I've had it done a few times. Always different, 15 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: always unique, feels like based on a lot of you know, 16 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: and you know this better than I am. I think 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: there are certain times when I can hear things and 18 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: other times when I can't. So a lot of times 19 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: I'll go back and I'll reread it or I'll look 20 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: at it again and I'll be like, oh, wow, that 21 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: was correct, and I just wasn't ready to hear it right, 22 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: And now I'm past it. Yeah, So that's a lot 23 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: of times, like for me with charts, that I take 24 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 2: it all in, but a lot of times I don't 25 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: actually access it, you know, until a little bit later. 26 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's normal or not. 27 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: I think that's totally normal. I always say, like I 28 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: first started learning about my chart like thirty years ago, 29 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: and some things like didn't make sense until like five 30 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: years ago, and so and I've studied my chart for 31 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: that long of time, and you know, I had it 32 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: in the back of my mind and understood it, and 33 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: there's just things that and I'm sure there's something that 34 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: will makes sense five years from now that doesn't make 35 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: sense now. So yeah, I think that's totally normal, and 36 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: that's normal for everybody to kind of like take it. 37 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: And that's why it's good to get multiple readings at 38 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: different points in your life, you know, like every five 39 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: to ten years from different people, because you'll get a 40 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: different perspective and you will have a different perspective of 41 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: your chart because you're in a different place in life, 42 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: and I'll be like, oh, yeah, okay, now that makes 43 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: sense now. 44 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: That tracks yeah for sure. 45 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, so looking at your chart, I always started 46 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: the Big three, which is the rising sign, the Sun 47 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: and the moon, and so you have Libra rising, which 48 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite rising signs and I'll tell 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: you why in a moment. And then you also have 50 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: your son in Libra, so you're a double Libra. I 51 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: don't know if you know that, So a lot of 52 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: Libra energy. And then also in Libra you have your 53 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: Mercury and You're uranis just buried below the horizon. So 54 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: these energies are actually trying to emerge when placements are 55 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: like just below your ascendant line, right just below the horizon, 56 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: They're trying to rise within you throughout your lifetime. And 57 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: so that can be part of your work. I will 58 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: say before we move on to your moon. You do 59 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: have both Mars and Pluto right above the horizon in Scorpio, 60 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: and so they have fully emerged and come out I'm 61 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: sorry in Libra. So they're in Libra right above the horizon, 62 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: and so they have emerged and come out. But Pluto 63 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: in Mars, like that's what gives you a lot of power. 64 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Like I looked at your chart and I was like, wow, 65 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: this is a really powerful chart because you have Mars 66 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: and Pluto just emerging over the horizon. That's what you're 67 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: going to be scene for and then you have the 68 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: Sun and Libra in libro with your libre rising, so 69 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: double Libra, and then you also have a stellium in Scorpio, 70 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: so you have a lot of energy in Scorpio. You 71 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: have Jupiter and Scorpio, Venus and Scorpio and Neptune and Scorpio, 72 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: and we're going to break down everything that means. So 73 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of power. There's a lot of power 74 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: to transform and keep it all balanced because that's that 75 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 1: libra piece. 76 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: So right, yeah, welcome to my life about trying to 77 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: keep things balanced in the midst of chaos. 78 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's kind of what it is, because you've 79 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: got like that, Pluto and Mars above you, above the horizon, 80 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: and Pluto is that sign of transformation. Mars is the 81 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: sign of intense energy, and so you've got that, and 82 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: then below in the second house, you have all of 83 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: this in Scorpio, so you've got a ton of Scorpio 84 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: and then in the middle you have your libre rising, 85 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: you have your libra's sun, and you have Uranus there 86 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: and so it's just trying to balance. You're trying to 87 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: balance this chaos kind of above and below you in 88 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: your chart, and the chaos is it's not that it's 89 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: bad thing. It's just constant transformation, constant cycles, constant rebirth, 90 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: constant you know, going through this and then you think 91 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: you're flying and then it all burns down. It's like 92 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 1: the phoenix rising right over and over again, the life 93 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: cycles that we live. And then your libra son, your 94 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: liver rising's in there going hey wait, can we can 95 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: we bring some balance? Can we bring some harmony? 96 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: Here? Were those other was like Mars and Pluto below 97 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: the horizon at some point in my life like, no, 98 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: they they just always exist in that same yeah like lineage, 99 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: I guess. 100 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're always just above. And so I find 101 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: a lot of times when people have Pluto on the horizon, 102 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: you attract a lot of people that none necessarily like 103 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: have issues, but want to tell you everything. They want 104 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: to tell you your life story because you meet people 105 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: with your horizon energy. So you're meeting people with libra, 106 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: so you're seeming balanced and peaceful, and then you're meeting 107 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: them with this Pluto and they're like, oh wait, she's 108 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: calm and she can deal with my inner subconscious and 109 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: so that's like the energy that you actually meet people with. 110 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: Do you find that people like to meet you? And 111 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: then they're like, hey be my therapist. 112 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, And I just always assumed that was 113 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: like the EmPATH and the Libra in me that gave 114 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: that off. 115 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: I guess no, it's Pluto. It's the Libra as well, 116 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: Libra and will dive it a little deeper into Libra. 117 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: Libra really helps us mirror people. So when people meet 118 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: a Libra son, and especially a Libre sun and a 119 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: liver rising, it's like, oh, wow, I am seen here 120 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: and I have this perfect mirror in front of me. 121 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: And so that's where that comes through. And then that 122 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: Pluto on the horizon is like, oh, there's a great 123 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: mirror in front of me. Let me use it and 124 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: let me shine a light on some of the deepest 125 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: parts of myself and tell this person about it. 126 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: Hmm. Wow. So that's never going to go away. That's 127 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: never going to go sorry, okay, good to know. Good. 128 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: And then before we get a deep dive into some things, 129 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: you also have your moon in Pisces, and so that's 130 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: probably also the EmPATH that you're feeling. The moon and 131 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: Pisces is very emotional. It's very intuitive. It really can 132 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: go deep with emotions and it can merge with another 133 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: and so you can feel other people's emotions with the 134 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: moon and Pisces. And you're highly intuitive, and you probably 135 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: have some really cool dreams or even psychic dreams. I 136 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: find that it comes up a lot with people with 137 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: the moon and Pisces. 138 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I do. I'm trying to pay attention 139 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: to those more often. Yeah, this like at like write 140 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: them down, you know, so that like I'm not crazy 141 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: when I go you, guys, this was that dream I 142 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: told you about? Remember? And Everyone's like, no, I don't remember, 143 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: And I'm like, God, damn it, why can't you remember 144 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: my dreams that I tell you? Yeah? 145 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: Do you keep a dream journal? 146 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: I used to. I used to, and I don't know 147 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 2: why I stopped, just because life. Yeah, yeah, I talk 148 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: about it. I think about it all the time though. 149 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, just get a journal and put it 150 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: by your bed, and then when you wake up, you 151 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: just write it in first thing before you before the 152 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: dreams leave. 153 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I know, because a. 154 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: Lot of as we wake up and then we go 155 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, about our day, breakfast, whatever, and then we're like, wait, 156 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: what was that dream that I had? 157 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: I know, isn't that so interesting? I mean, by the way, 158 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 2: that's life, right, I'm constantly like walking into rooms and 159 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, why am I here? Why am I? What 160 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: am I doing? But you know, complete, that's a whole 161 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,359 Speaker 2: nother that's a whole nother story, that's a whole other podcast. 162 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, So you lead with this libra in life, 163 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: mostly because you're librerising your libra son, and so they're aligned. 164 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: Your core identity, which is your son's sign, is aligned 165 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: with what you're projecting outward because our rising sign is 166 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: the energy we're sending out how we dawn on people, 167 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: and a lot of times we don't see them in 168 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: the same sign, so we'll see like the sun in 169 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: scorpio and a rising sign somewhere else, for instance, And 170 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: that can sometimes create a conflict. But with you, you 171 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: don't have that because what on the inside is what 172 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: you're projecting on the outside, and so there's not a 173 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: lot of confusion about who you are. Like when you 174 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: walk in a room, people are like, oh, Okay, she's 175 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: you know here, Maybe she's acting as a mirror, maybe 176 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: she has some natural grace you do have a strong 177 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: ability to read a room. That's one of the gifts 178 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: of Libra libra rising, even librasn Like you walk into 179 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: a room and you immediately are like, Okay, this is 180 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: what's going on here. You can read a room. You 181 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: know what to say, you know how to edit yourself 182 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: based on the energy of the room. And so that 183 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: can lead and I often find early in life with 184 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: liber sons that can lead to like people pleasing because 185 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: you can walk in you can go, oh, wait, this 186 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: person needs this. You immediately, especially with that Pisces moon, 187 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: immediately into it and understand what that other person needs 188 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: to feel balanced. Right, that's that libra balance or regulated 189 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: in nurse system. And so then you bend to that automatically, 190 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: even if they don't ask for it. It's just like 191 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: a natural default of both liberalizing and liber sun signs. 192 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: And so it's a journey this lifetime to go, hey, 193 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: am I just like people pleasing? Am I is this yes? 194 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: A real yes? Or is this what I'm doing? Is 195 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: this for me? Or is this for the other person? 196 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: Do I really want to be here? So it's a 197 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: constant balance of give and take in all of your 198 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: relationships my. 199 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: God, just from like the day I was born. I mean, 200 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: just in it, just in it, and that's it, right. Yeah, 201 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: it's never going to change. I'm saying to keep reminding 202 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: myself that it's just what I was born into because 203 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: I think a lot of times, like when I do 204 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: have readings of my chart and stuff, I'm constantly like, oh, 205 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: so it doesn't matter what I do. That's not going 206 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: to change. So why am I even trying to change? 207 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: Like I like to look at the chart. I mean, 208 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: things are fit right. So you're always going to have 209 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: a libra son. You're always going to have a librizing, 210 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: unless we want to go into like a progressed reading, 211 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: which you know, that's a whole nother podcast. But you'll 212 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: you'll still always have a liber son, a librerizing. You 213 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: will change and evolve with that energy though. So you 214 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: might have had a lot of people pleasing in your life, 215 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: but then you can become aware of that and you 216 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: might even say to yourself, hey, that's my libra. That's 217 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: with the libra part of me talking here, you know, 218 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: and then say, Okay, how can I have boundaries or 219 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: how can I not do that? Or how can I 220 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, change this dynamic, this energy in some way. 221 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: How can I not swallow my truth because that's my default, 222 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: and instead speak it with power and maybe even lean 223 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: onto all of the scorpio that you have right to 224 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: draw from that power place and so you can evolve, 225 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: like the placements don't change, which you can evolve with them. 226 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: Like I always look at the chart as like a 227 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: map of how we're evolving in this lifetime. So that's 228 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's always good to remember because I you know, 229 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: we have free will at the end of the day. 230 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: Like I love astrology, obviously, I'm an astrologer. I love 231 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: learning about all these energies. I love using charts as 232 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: a roadmap. But we also have free will, and so 233 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, we can always choose what we're going to 234 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: do with the energy. What it's like the cards were dealt. 235 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: We can always choose what we're going to do with 236 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: the cards were dealt, you know, in this life, so 237 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: you do have this huge concentration of all of this 238 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: Libra in your first house, your son, your mercury, you're 239 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: your honest this is your rising sign, and so this 240 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: is a lot of energy in who you are right 241 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: in your identity, and so that might even be why 242 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: you're saying right now this is never going to change, 243 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: because it feels like it's so home to you, like 244 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: this is your I am statement. Sure, this is who 245 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: I am in this world. I am this person who 246 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: is constantly trying to balance everything and constantly like trying 247 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: to make sure that energy or resources is balanced and 248 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: flowing equally. In partnerships, it's core to you and who 249 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: you are because of that first house place. But the 250 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: first house is the house of the self. So whatever 251 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: we see in the first house, it's like, Okay, that's 252 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: my identity and that's how people perceive me as well. Yes, 253 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: and then this mercury conjunct uranis this is a real 254 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: standout placement because it's a tight conjunction. They're right on 255 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: top of each other in in libra, and so mercury 256 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: is communication, uranus is It can be the disruptor planet. 257 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: It shakes things up, it moves quickly, it innovates. And 258 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: so with mercury and uranus right next to each other, 259 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: you have a very sharp mind. You have a lot 260 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: of intelligence. Your mind was very quickly and it might 261 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: even move differently than other people, and so you might 262 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: be in the person in the room that says the 263 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: thing that like no one else says, or no one 264 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: else even thinks of. And it might be effortless, and 265 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: it might come across as like wait, what is she saying? 266 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: Like who is she? Right now? 267 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: I'm glad that I have this recorded so that I 268 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: can play this back when people say, wait, what's wrong 269 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: with you? Where did that come from? Hold on, it's 270 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: in my chart. 271 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: It's in your chart. It's mercury conjuncturado. So it's like 272 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: that planet, that energy of communication, the part of you 273 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: that communicates, is right next to the planet that thinks 274 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: outside the box, the planet that disrupts the status quo. 275 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: And so your voice, your communication, the things you say 276 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: are not necessarily what people expect and not necessarily what 277 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: makes them comfortable. They can be needed, right, and it 278 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: can be like, oh, this needed to be said. You 279 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: might not be ready for it, and it might make 280 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: you a little uncomfortable. It might, and this is all 281 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: happening in libra. It might be reflective. So there's that 282 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: mirror part, like you can say something to somebody and 283 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: it immediately turns into that mirror for them. But they 284 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: might not always like it or understand it right. 285 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's it's such a trip because it's it's 286 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: also the characters I play like in my career. 287 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: Well, I think. 288 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: That's so weird because I mean I always say like 289 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: that I'm so much not like my characters that I 290 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: play on television, and I'm always so grateful that I 291 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: have them to do this like release of an unfiltered comment, 292 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: right of telling people what they need to hear but 293 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: may not want to hear. So it's so weird to 294 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: think that like that is actually innately in me. 295 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's in your first house, a house of identity, 296 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: so it's gonna show up everywhere. And there's like a 297 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: sharpness and an intelligence to you that like cuts through 298 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: the bs, and that what I was looking at specifically 299 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: this mercury conjuncturanus. I was like, oh wow, like you're 300 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: not just acting like this is in your chart some 301 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: of these characters, because I think the majority, if not all, 302 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: of your characters have this like sharpness and intelligence to them. 303 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: You know, they're like they they're on like the edge, 304 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: you know, and in their conversations and there's this power 305 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: as well, and so it is in your chart. 306 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: That's the trip. That's just a trip. 307 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a quick break. Do you think, like, 308 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: because you have the ability to see things from so 309 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: many different layers and angles because of all of this 310 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: energy you carry, and because of all of this libridness, 311 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: do you ever like read a script for the first 312 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: time and like see angles and layers of a character 313 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: that maybe nobody else even sees. 314 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: I definitely, I definitely see things right when I read it. Now, 315 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 2: if it's unlike what other people see, I don't know, right, 316 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: But because I'm also a director, I definitely read things 317 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 2: as I would visually, like do them or shoot them 318 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: or present them. Yeah, I mean, I'm you know, I've 319 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: always been told that I'm always best like on my 320 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 2: first take because it's the time when I go in 321 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 2: and I basically just do everything that I saw when 322 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 2: I read it or rehearsed it. And that's always interesting 323 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: to me because I think that has to do with 324 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: like trusting your intuition and your instincts. And I can 325 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 2: do it much better in my acting than I can 326 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: do in my life. And I yeah, and I don't 327 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: know why that is, because these are characters that are 328 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 2: not me yeah. Yeah, so maybe that's like easier to 329 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: embrace somebody that is like harsh or or unfiltered or 330 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 2: any of that. It's easier if I'm hiding behind a 331 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: character doing it and it's not constance doing it. Yeah. 332 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well you're playing a role and you have to 333 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: take on any of the guilt or whatever can come. 334 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: Like when we act like that, Like if we're harsh 335 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: and or sharp to somebody, especially with liber rising, you 336 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: probably immediately are like, oh, should I have said that? 337 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: Like did that land appropriately? Like in real life, But 338 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: when you're doing a character, you don't have to worry 339 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: about that. The script is set for the most part, 340 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: Yeah that. 341 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: Wasn't me, it was written. But I but I also constantly, 342 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: I constantly apologize to people on set when I'm playing 343 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 2: a very harsh character. I'm always saying sorry because I'm like, 344 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: I know that wasn't in the script, and I improved it, 345 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 2: but it's not personal to you. It's just what the character, 346 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: what I think the character would say to someone like 347 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: you, you know, and they're just like, but when it's not 348 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: scripted on the page, they automatically take it personally that 349 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: I'm using that and I'm always like, no, no, no, it's 350 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: not you're a character. I'm a character. It's not personal. 351 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 2: It's not personal, it's not personal. 352 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you have that moon and Pisce is in 353 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: your fifth house, which is the house of creativity. And 354 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: a lot of times when I'm talking to any kind 355 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: of artist, I look at the fifth house because this 356 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: is where it shows up. But when you see a 357 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: moon in the fifth house, you're merging with your art 358 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: and so there's no division. And so when you're playing 359 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: a role, you're merging with that person that character energetically, 360 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: and so you could really like sink into that because 361 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: of that Pisces moon in the fifth house. So your 362 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: creative expression has no boundaries in a good way. 363 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 2: Wow, that's trippy, because I before our energy broke the podcast, 364 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 2: and that's what I was just saying that. It's like 365 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: it hasn't been until now later in life that I 366 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 2: have realized that I can be the characters I play 367 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 2: on television in my real life. And that has been 368 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 2: a huge eye opening experience to have character and constance 369 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 2: merged like I would. I couldn't even like the fact 370 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: that you just said that. I'm just like, that's so 371 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 2: trippy because I would never really want to merge with 372 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: my characters. You know, there's something nice about them being 373 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: very far from who I am. But like everything you're 374 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: saying is basically that I am innately have it in me. Yes, 375 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 2: I just only use it in my art. I don't 376 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: use it in my wrow. 377 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: Correct And it probably has a lot to do with 378 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: that libra and that kind of like that lower shadout 379 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: side of libro, which is that people pleasing, which is 380 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: that swallowing the truth? Which is that apology you know 381 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: when when you said that, oh I'm constantly apologizing, that's libra. 382 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: That's that lower side of libra that's not quite in 383 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: its full power yet but has the power. Like like 384 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: I said, when I first looked at your chart, you 385 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: have a very powerful chart. You have very powerful placements, 386 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: and I think for a long time in life you 387 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: apologized for that power. Because of that librinness, you have 388 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: the kind of chart you have to mature into, and 389 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: like you said in the beginning, like some things are 390 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: just making sense and that's going to continue, and so 391 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: there needs to be some mature Like I wouldn't expect 392 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: you in your twenties to like own your power and 393 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: be able to be like, oh I am people pleasing here, 394 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: I am going to like But that's something like we learn, 395 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: you know, and that's that's one of the benefits, right 396 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: of growing older, is like we learn all this stuff 397 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,239 Speaker 1: and it's like, I mean, the things I do now 398 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: I would never do in my twenties, you know, and 399 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: they're good, they're good things, right, It's like those boundary 400 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: settings that like, oh, I'm people pleasing. Oh I'm going 401 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: to be a where oh I'm going to not apologize 402 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: for this. I'm want to ask for what I want 403 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: and not apologize. How about that? Yeah, you know, And 404 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: so that's really learning for you. That's how you're evolving 405 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: into your chart and using your chart for your evolution. 406 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: And fortunately you've attracted these characters and these scripts and 407 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: these roles from your core identity, which is that first house, 408 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: and so you've subconsciously or energetically manifested them, called them 409 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: in and attracted them, so they, in a way can 410 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: teach you how to step into your truth. 411 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 2: WHOA, that's wild, it's a wild, wild thought, right, Yeah. 412 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're learning from them. And one of the things 413 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: to learn not to apologize you know for who you are, 414 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: and you do have that moon and Pisces in your 415 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: fifth house, and so you can go really deep with 416 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: anything you do with creative expression, Like you can go 417 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: very deep even if you were like a songwriter, right, 418 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: you could go deep into that kind of craft, even 419 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: if you were a painter. It would help you process 420 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: your emotions. So your creative expression, your creative art forms 421 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: that you choose in life to direct your energy through, 422 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: are actually going to teach you and help you understand 423 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: and who you are on a deeper level who and 424 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: also help you understand what you need emotionally. Right, the moon, 425 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: the moon placement teaches us what we need emotionally to 426 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: feel fulfilled. So you need creativity, you need creative expression, 427 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: and you need that depth that only Pisces brings. You 428 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: need to feel your emotions. You can go very deep 429 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: with them. 430 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: So I just was saying to my friend this morning 431 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: in our walk, and I said, she was like, how 432 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: do we know if we're living to our fullest potential? 433 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 2: And I said, if we are feeling our feelings and 434 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 2: if we are allowing those emotions to touch us and 435 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: not push them away, push them aside, I'll deal with 436 00:25:53,280 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: that later and that is Yeah, that's something I'm yeah, 437 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: definitely like I've been, but I'm working on it because 438 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: I don't have a choice. Like you know, I've been 439 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 2: hit with a lot of grief lately and allowing myself 440 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 2: to feel that grief when it comes wherever I am 441 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: and not stopping it. And that to me is like 442 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: taking that what you're saying right the like feeling it. 443 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: Just allow yourself to feel it, and that is where 444 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 2: you gain strength and that power from instead of pushing 445 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: it aside. 446 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's very healing to do that. Like, we 447 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: don't want to just bottle up our emotions or avoid them. 448 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: I think we need breaks sometimes, you know, from the 449 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: work and from you know, feeling and going deep. But 450 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: it's important, especially for you with the moon and Pisces, 451 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: to feel your feelings and to sit with them and 452 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: to meditate with them, and to have conversations with them 453 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: and to understand them. And also to know that emotions 454 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: are the pathway. They're the doorway to our intuition, so 455 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: we feel our intuition and I think a lot of 456 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: people forget that. I get that question all the time. 457 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: People are like, how do I follow my intuition. I'm like, well, 458 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: are you feeling it? And you can't just pick and 459 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: choose what you get to feel. It's like all on 460 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: or all off. So in order to feel your intuition, 461 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: you have to feel your grief, you have to feel 462 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: your anger, you have to feel your sadness. You have 463 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: to get in there and feel it all. You can't 464 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: just like pick and choose what you're going to feel. 465 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: You can't just pick and choose like, oh, I'm just 466 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: going to feel joy or gratitude today, Like that would 467 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: be lovely. 468 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 2: Right, Like picking and choosing which reviews to read. You know, 469 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: it's like it's like a weird comparison, but it's true. 470 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: It's like, if you're going to read the good reviews, 471 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 2: you have to read the bad reviews because if you're 472 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 2: going to believe the good ones, you have to believe 473 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: the bad ones. So if you only want to feel 474 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: the joy, you have to feel the sadness. Like it's 475 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: exactly that is. You know. Look, I have like right 476 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 2: behind me this like needle point that my grandmother made 477 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: for me when I was a teenager, and it's you know, 478 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: the tragedy and comedy basically of what you know what 479 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: I do as an actor, it's always about the tragedy 480 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 2: and comedy, and like, yeah. 481 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to take everything into account. And also, 482 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: I think we're so quick to label and judge emotions 483 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: or it's like, oh, that's sadness, that's negative, that's bad, 484 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: Let me get rid of that. And really it's all 485 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: these emotions are just sensations. They're just energy that are 486 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: moving through us. We can alchemize them. Especially if you 487 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: have a lot of Scorpio in your chart, which you do, 488 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: you have the power to alchemize emotions. So you can 489 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: take that grief, you can take something like sadness and 490 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: you can turn it into creativity. You can turn it 491 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: into a beautiful work of art. In some way. We 492 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: can take anger and we can turn it into motivation. 493 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: And so especially like I said with that Scorpio Pluto transformation, 494 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: you can use those energies to alchemize these emotions and 495 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: we don't need to label them. We don't need to say, oh, 496 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: this emotion's bad, I don't want to feel this one. 497 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: We just need to really understand them as these energies, 498 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: as sensations to sit with and observe and have them 499 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: teach us. And I'm saying this to you because you 500 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: have that Piscey's moon, and this is a very Piscey's 501 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: concept of there is no negative, there's no positive. There 502 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: just is energy and then it's just about what you 503 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: do with it. 504 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 2: M mm hmm. 505 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: Okay, I now sitting. 506 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's that's like, you know, yeah, that's like 507 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: this is where I go. I'm hearing you, I'm hearing 508 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: and I'm listening, processing and processing, because yeah, you then 509 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: can backtrack and think, wow, wow, that wasn't just. It 510 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: wasn't just I got lucky and was like, oh, I'm 511 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: going to feel this emotion right now. It's like, no, 512 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: that's actually a part of all of this, all of 513 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: the processing of the energy. Yeah. 514 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course of course. And it will always for 515 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: you feed your creativity because it's in your fifth house. 516 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: So the more you can feel, the more creative you are, 517 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: which is nice. Always see the moon in prices in 518 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: the fifth house. It's like, Okay, do you meditate? Do 519 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: you have practices that help you feel, that help you 520 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: sit in full presence with yourself. 521 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: I'd be lying if I said yes, Okay, no, I know, 522 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: but it's you know, my friend Jeffrey has been tells 523 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: me every single day, every single day, He's like, you 524 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: have to meditate, You've got to calm your you know, 525 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: I have started, you know, at least doing something. We're 526 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: twenty minutes a day. I like, lay on my mat 527 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: you know, it's just like an infrared map, but it's 528 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: with crystals and you know, yeah, yeah, and I lay 529 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: on that, and I basically know that I need to 530 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: calm my nervous system. I just that I know and 531 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: I can do that, and I try and do that 532 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: every day. Now I'm not necessarily meditating, but I am stopping, yes, right, 533 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 2: taking deep breaths, just doing gratitude. I do gratitude every night. 534 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's my biggest thing that I do every 535 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 2: single day, which is gratitude, prayers and gratitude, always, always, always, 536 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: always I magic. Yeah. And I just recently learned though, 537 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 2: that I'm an active meditator, which I never knew what 538 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: that was, but that makes so much sense to me 539 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: because I work in the garden a lot, and I 540 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 2: realize that, like that is my meditation because I'm not 541 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: thinking about anything else. I'm basically just focusing on these 542 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: plants and I'm trying to clean them and trim them 543 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 2: and give them light and give them air and you know, 544 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: and in that so that I do a lot. So 545 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: that's but again the actual like shutting down meditating is 546 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: much harder for me. 547 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it might be all this air. So Libra 548 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: carries a lot of air. It's an air sign. Like 549 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: immediately it was like, what does she have in Gemini? 550 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: Because I see a lot of people with like a 551 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: lot of placements in Gemini and they almost always are like, oh, 552 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: I can't meditate. I just can't do it. But the Libra, 553 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: with like all that air, it does make it harder 554 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: for you. Any kind of any air signs, especially when 555 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: you have a lot of placements in an air sign, 556 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: can make it harder to settle your mind because your 557 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: mind is constantly moving. And we already talked about how 558 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: your mind is very sharp and moves very fast and 559 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: because of mercury and you're honest in Libra, so you know, yes, 560 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: you are going to have a lot of thoughts. I 561 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: think doing something like the is it a pemf mat 562 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: that's what I have? I love it. I think that 563 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: that counts that totally counts. You know, you just want 564 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: to find some way to like downregulate your nervous system 565 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: really in the context of feeling too, so that you 566 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: can feel more. Because the more you can feel with 567 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: this Pisces moon, the greater you will be creative. The 568 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: more energy, the more fuel you'll have to alchemize and 569 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: direct into your life, the greater will be your power 570 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: to manifest. And so we can't manifest from a disregulated state. 571 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: We need to be regulated in our nervous system. We 572 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: need to be out of flight or fight. We need 573 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: to feel some calmness within our body in order to manifest. 574 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: And so I would encourage you if you do set intentions, 575 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: and I think you know, I'm going to send you 576 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: some workbooks so that you can definitely set intentions and 577 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: create some visions, visualize what you want in life while 578 00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: you're laying down on that mat, because that mat will 579 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: help do the work of down regulating your nervous system. 580 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: And then that's when your brain is like primed to 581 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: create new visualizations and new patterns and new pathways. And 582 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 1: so when we visualize, we're just rehearsing over and over again. 583 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: And you have such an act of mind use it, right. 584 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: You have like this power of this mind and the 585 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: sharpness and this ability to create visions that are out 586 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: of the box and might even be unexpected, and so 587 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: rehearse them in a downregulated state over and over again, 588 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: and then when they start manifesting or creating in reality, 589 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: your brain will go, oh, I recognize that that's familiar. 590 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: That feels safe. I'm going to go towards that instead 591 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: of run away from that, right right, So that could 592 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: really help. And then also just feeling those emotions. And 593 00:34:51,360 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: now a quick word from our wonderful sponsors. Do you 594 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: find like when you're in the garden and you're working 595 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: with your hands, does that help you process your emotions? 596 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, because I don't know that it's so 597 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 2: much a processing of emotions, but it's allowing my because 598 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 2: I'm a crazy multitasker. If I know I'm doing something 599 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 2: that is helping something else, it allows me to shut 600 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 2: off my brain because I'm like, oh, I'm doing something, 601 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 2: So it's okay to shut my brain off because this 602 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 2: is actually useful versus laying down and not doing anything 603 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: with that shutdown, right, I mean, it's so it's just like. 604 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: Us all the time, right, yeah, or it's like it 605 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: doesn't feel productive, like I need to be doing something, 606 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, versus just laying here you know. 607 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Like I have to wear an infrared mask 608 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: when I'm on the mat because I'm like, Okay, I'm 609 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: doing something for myself and I'm essentially meditating, not really, 610 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: but it's like my version of meditating again, an active meditator. 611 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, I'm wearing my infra red mask 612 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 2: and I'm on my mat. So I'm doing two things 613 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 2: at once that are beneficial. 614 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: Taking care of yourself, taking care of yourself. Yeah, And 615 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: it could be beneficial at some point to just play 616 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: around breaking that pattern two and just staying like, hey, 617 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: what if I just do nothing and lay on this 618 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: mat and do nothing else and just allow that to 619 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: be the productive piece of the day. Like the productive 620 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: piece is I'm going to downregulate my nervous system and 621 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: that's it. That's what I'm doing, right. It could be 622 00:36:53,160 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: interesting for your libriness to see how me crazy? Yeah, 623 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: well you have you have so much in scorpio too, 624 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: and so that a scorpio a lot of places in scorpio, 625 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: it can create a lot of activity as well in 626 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: our mind, because Scorpio likes to go really deep and 627 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: likes to get into the subconscious and likes to peel 628 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: back the layers and likes to do things right. Doesn't 629 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,959 Speaker 1: like to just sit, likes to transform, it likes to transmute. 630 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: And so even if you're like sitting, it's like you 631 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: want to do something else that helps transform or transmute 632 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: you in some way. And you have your Jupiter in 633 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: Scorpio in your second house, and so transformation actually expands you. 634 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: You're expanded by the act of transforming emotions by transforming 635 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: anything in front of you, even if it's like your garden, 636 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: you're transforming it into something else. So this cycle of 637 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: birth death rebirth that we see with transformation is actually 638 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: how you expand. It's core to your expansion and your potential, 639 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: and so you have a great ability to reinvent yourself 640 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: over and over and over again if you choose and 641 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: each time expand into your potential in a more deep 642 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: and fulfilling way. And also just to keep expanding and 643 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 1: keep stretching and keep growing through the cycle of transformation. 644 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: You almost have a chart where I'm like, are you 645 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 1: transforming too much? Like do you need to take a break. 646 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 2: Well, I wonder though, because of the transformation. Also, like 647 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: the characters I play like those are versions of transformation, right, 648 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: I mean, like the character I just did on Love 649 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 2: Story is unlike anything I've ever done before, And it 650 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 2: was an absolute transformation, not only for me, like whatever 651 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 2: looks wise, which is shallow, but all so, what that 652 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: character led with was all emotion. Most of the characters 653 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 2: I lead with are closed off and walled off and 654 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 2: do not show it. And here I was given the 655 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 2: gift of all emotion, like that's all she was. Yeah, 656 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 2: and it definitely changed me for sure. Yeah. 657 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 1: How did that feel to be able to like lean 658 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: into that and have that character kind of work for 659 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: you and guide you and teach you into that. 660 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 2: I mean it was It's those moments that you you 661 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 2: are never prepared for, right, and when they're happening, they 662 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 2: feel it's like you step outside of yourself, right like 663 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 2: you you do. And then you know, I have the 664 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 2: added bonus of them watching it, so you know, it's 665 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 2: not just something you experienced with somebody at a lunch 666 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: that felt really good, right, but you experienced it over 667 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 2: and over and over and over again. And then you 668 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 2: can watch it all happen in front of you. So 669 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 2: it's it's so it's you're constantly having the transformation, like 670 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:31,720 Speaker 2: really right, and so even watching it was a whole 671 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: different lesson too, like, wow, that's what that shows up as, 672 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 2: That's what that looks like when you release, when you 673 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 2: let go. That's the crazy thing about what you know 674 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 2: we do as actors is it's like you can watch 675 00:40:53,920 --> 00:41:00,720 Speaker 2: it on playback. You're like, that's a trip. 676 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can gain and like we were talking 677 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: about earlier, you can see different angles and different layers 678 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: every time. And so there is that mirror. It's like 679 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: your characters are mirroring things for you, which is such 680 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: a gift really. 681 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 2: Well, and I think what we hope to do in 682 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 2: our profession is to mirror that for someone else, and 683 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 2: then that mirrors for someone else, And it's all about 684 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 2: trying to give to the audience what they might need 685 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 2: to see or hear. 686 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and you have a great chart for that 687 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: with the libra that helps to mirror and then a 688 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: lot of Scorpio that Jupiter. You also have your venus 689 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: and scorpio. Like when you were talking about transformation of 690 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: like how you look a lot of times, what I 691 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: see is people with Venus and Scorpio, they change their 692 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: hairstyle a lot, They change, you know, how they dress 693 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: a lot because Venus is beauty, but it's also like 694 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: the clothes we're wearing. It it's you know, hair color 695 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: that you know, we're choosing for this season of our life. 696 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: And so in Scorpio, it's like there is that transformation, 697 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: but it's not so much superficial, right, it actually goes deep. 698 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: So if you were to like change your hair color 699 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: or change your hairstyle, it actually impacts how you're going 700 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: to feel energetically within you, especially with this Venus in Scorpio. 701 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: So again it's like Scorpio takes things to the next level. 702 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: It's like Venus is about okay, you know, beauty and 703 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: how we love and and all of that, and Scorpios, okay, 704 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: how can we go deeper in that? Like how can 705 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: we make it not just about this piece of clothing 706 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm wearing and this dress I'm putting on? But how 707 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: does it make me feel? How does it reflect who 708 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: I am? How does it change me energetically? How does 709 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: it transform me? You know, like any character you play 710 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: like the wardrobe, the hairstyle, like everything is going to 711 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: be so important to the energy that is transmitted through 712 00:42:59,360 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: that role. 713 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 2: M hm. You know it's a big deal and that's 714 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 2: always like the biggest deal for me. 715 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's going to be a big deal for you. 716 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: With Venus and Scorpio, it's definitely going to be a 717 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: big deal. And then you also have your Neptune and 718 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: Scorpio as well, and so that allows you to have 719 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: these like visions within you that go really really deep, 720 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 1: and so you can have this vision of your life 721 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: and you have many, many, many layers, like a lot 722 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: of intricacies. Like some people just have like some simple visions, 723 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: like they're big visions, but they might just be like 724 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: I want this, I want this, I want this. With 725 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: Neptune and Scorpio, your visions are complex. There's a complexity 726 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: and depth to them. There's layers, there's you know, visions 727 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: nested in other visions. There's a broad view of your 728 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,959 Speaker 1: life where you can kind of like see it all 729 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,240 Speaker 1: and take it all in and all of the different 730 00:43:54,360 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: layers and complexity. Do you feel like you've had some 731 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: complex visions of your life where you're like where some 732 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: people might be like, that's a little it's a little 733 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: overly ambitious. It's a little it's a little much. 734 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 2: Always constantly everybody is like, I don't understand how you're 735 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 2: doing the things you're doing at the pace you're doing 736 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 2: the mat like, and I'm constantly like, yeah, I'm I 737 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 2: don't do well with waiting. M I don't do well. 738 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 2: I need to know unless I know what I'm waiting for, right, Yeah, 739 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 2: so that's fine, but I yeah, I'm constantly searching for 740 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 2: like what is the next transformation, what is the next move? 741 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 2: What is the next journey? What is the next And 742 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 2: I wonder too, like because I'm a planner, I like 743 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 2: to plan. And I have noticed as I've gotten older, 744 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 2: how funny that is to plan. Yeah, because so much 745 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 2: is out of our control, right, And as you get older, 746 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 2: so much is changing so rapidly from you know, losing 747 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 2: parents or friends or people moving or you know, you 748 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 2: name it right, a number of things, and it really 749 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 2: makes you go, huh, So all this planning I've been 750 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 2: trying to do is kind of funny because they could 751 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 2: just change tomorrow. 752 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: It could just change tomorrow. That's like, that's saying the 753 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: best laid plans of mye men. You know, I always 754 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: think of that and it's just like, yeah, we can plan, 755 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: but everything is could change tomorrow. Like the only constant 756 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: in this world, the universe has change. That's all we 757 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: can actually rely on and we can plan, and I 758 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: think it's good to have like visions and we also 759 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: need to remain flexible. 760 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think key, that's key, right, Like, yeah, I 761 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 2: have a lot of like we're embarking on a big 762 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 2: change and a big move, and I'm like, should I 763 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 2: be more scared? I don't know that it's not. It's 764 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 2: interesting because I'm like, I'm not it. I go, I'm 765 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 2: not scared because it feels like the only option. Yeah, 766 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 2: the only choice. It's just a matter of being okay 767 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,280 Speaker 2: with if it's not exactly the way I have set 768 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 2: out that I would like it to be. 769 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you are in a noble return 770 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 1: right now. So what does that That creates a lot 771 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 1: of change. So your north note is in Pisces, it's 772 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: actually conjuncture Moon. Your north note is where you're headed 773 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: in life. So it's what you're here to learn, it's 774 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: what you're here to understand. To integrate your south node 775 00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 1: is opposite that in Vigo in your eleventh house, and 776 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 1: the south node is what we're leaving behind. It's what 777 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,839 Speaker 1: we've come into this world knowing already understanding you will 778 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: probably overgo in a previous life that was probably your 779 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: sun sign, and so you understand this energy and the 780 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,839 Speaker 1: low energies, the shadow sides of Virgo are going to 781 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: be your comfort zone in life. So that's where you're 782 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 1: going to run back to when you're scared or things 783 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: get unfamiliar, life feels shaky, and those were like perfectionism 784 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 1: and control is like the lower sides of Virgo, and 785 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: so for you it's gonna be like okay, like I 786 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. How do I go back 787 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: to trying to control things? Now we do evolve past 788 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: our south node. That's the point of our life is 789 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,399 Speaker 1: actually to move from south note to north note, and 790 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: so you are moving towards Pisces, which is more about 791 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 1: going with the flow, more about the conversation we just had. 792 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes we have to let go of control and just 793 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 1: accept we can can't control anything. That control itself is 794 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: just an illusion and we just have to hold on 795 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: tight and go along for the ride and so that's 796 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 1: key in your chart to walk from that place of 797 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: wanting things to be perfect, wanting the details all planned out, 798 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: wanting you know, this, that and the other thing to 799 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 1: be controlled in some way to this Pisce's flow state, 800 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 1: which happens to also be in your fifth house, right 801 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: next to your moon. And so that's it's going to 802 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 1: feel better to you. Ultimately, it's a new territory. This 803 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: pisce is going with the flow, you know, doing things 804 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,359 Speaker 1: that I'm not sure how it's going to work out, 805 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 1: taking leaps of faith, like trusting the process. That's a 806 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 1: big lesson of Pisce's North node people, is trusting the 807 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: process and not needing all the answers to take the 808 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: first step. And so that's a lesson for you this lifetime. 809 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 1: But because it's right next to your moon, it's going 810 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,240 Speaker 1: to feel good to you to do that, even though 811 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: it's new, even though it's slightly uncomfortable because it's unfamiliar, 812 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: it's going to feel good to your emotional body to 813 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: lean more into that Pisces and let go of that control. 814 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a quick break. And so 815 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: that's your life path all the time. And then right now. 816 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 1: Currently we're just ending the north nodes being in Virgo 817 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 1: south node and north node in Pisces. They will shift 818 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: in July into Leo and Aquarius. So you're coming towards 819 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: the end of your nodle return, so the nodes have 820 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: returned to the place they were when you were born. 821 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 1: This happens every eighteen and a half years, and it 822 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: creates major, major change in our lives every time. 823 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 2: Wow, and it's every eighteen years. 824 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,919 Speaker 1: It's every eighteen and a half ish years. 825 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, eighteen and a half ish years. And mine is 826 00:49:58,880 --> 00:49:59,879 Speaker 2: coming in July. 827 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 1: It's coming to an end in July, so it's actually 828 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,359 Speaker 1: meant it's ending. So you're in it right now. And 829 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: it's been going on for like the past sixteen months 830 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 1: and it's ending in July, your notal return. 831 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 2: That's great because it's been a really fucking hard eighteen months. 832 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it can be hard. The nodal returns can 833 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,839 Speaker 1: be really hard because they force us to evolve. They're 834 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 1: forcing us to evolve from our south node to our 835 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: north note. It's like it's time to take quantum leaps. 836 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: But I always find because in between, So in nine 837 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 1: years you'll go through a reverse nodal return, where the 838 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 1: north note will be where your south note is. South 839 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 1: note will be where your north note is, so flip it, okay, yeah, 840 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,359 Speaker 1: if you can imagine that, like somebody right now who 841 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: has their north node in Virgo and their south note 842 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: in Pisces, which is the opposite you, is going through 843 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: the real return, right, So the moons the south notes 844 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: are opposing, there are current they're needle placements. So so 845 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 1: in nine years you'll go through a reversal return. I 846 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: find that reversal returns also bring a lot of change, 847 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 1: but there's not so much drama around them, and so 848 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 1: you can maybe even think back, like nine years ago, 849 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 1: what change was at my doorstep, and how is that 850 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 1: connected to any change that I've just gone through in 851 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 1: this now nodal return, which, like I said, the pure 852 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 1: nodal returns tend to carry just more issues, more drama, 853 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 1: more complexity. I prefer reversonal returns because it's like, oh, 854 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: I get the change, I get the thing, but like 855 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: there's not a ton of drama to navigate right. 856 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 2: Right, So hopefully as of July, the drama part, the 857 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 2: drama part is done, yes, yeah, and I can move 858 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 2: into the like dealing like the after the evolvement and 859 00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 2: the transformation of. 860 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: That correct integration. Yes, integrate, you'll integrate it. Yeah, you 861 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: want to integrate because my guess is you've learned a lot, 862 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,959 Speaker 1: and like the nodal return always brings us a ton 863 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 1: of knowledge. We may not want it, we may not 864 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,320 Speaker 1: be ready for it, we may be like, why is 865 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 1: this coming up right now? But it always brings us 866 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 1: a ton of information about ourselves, about people around us, 867 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: and so it takes time to integrate. But yes, the drama, 868 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 1: the actual catalyst for it all should fade once you're 869 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 1: out of the nodle return, which will be July twenty sixth. 870 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,320 Speaker 1: That's when the notes shift. 871 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 2: That's so specific. I better put that on my calendar. 872 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 2: I need to call you unily twenty seventh exactly. 873 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 1: And that's the integration time. And then you'll go into 874 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 1: a time where it's like I like to think of 875 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,879 Speaker 1: it as like there's like the chaos foot, and then 876 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,799 Speaker 1: there's like the wisdom foot, and so you're like kind 877 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 1: of leading with like the chaos drama foot, and then 878 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 1: you'll start leading with the wisdom foot where it'll integrate. Well, 879 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 1: you'll understand where you'll be able to find the higher 880 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 1: meaning where you'll be able to process everything that has 881 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: come up over the last eighteen months while you were 882 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 1: in a nodal return. 883 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 2: Wow. 884 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 1: Right, And because your north node is at the first 885 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: degree and the nodes move backwards, it's actually going to 886 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 1: kind of intensify as the north node leaves Pisces. But 887 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: you'll you'll feel it. 888 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 2: Are you trying to say that May, June, and July 889 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 2: are going to be intense. 890 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 1: I think you'll be wrapping some things up coming. 891 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 2: To your return. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I 892 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 2: already yes, I already know that. I already feel it coming. 893 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that and you'll shift and then you'll shift 894 00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:00,720 Speaker 1: from you know, feeling everything so intensely to being able 895 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 1: to integrate it and being able to understand it almost 896 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: from like a place outside of yourself the way you 897 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: would view a character. So plan some introspection in August. 898 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 2: Trust me, it's already going to happen, whether I want 899 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 2: it or not. Like that's when you say, do I 900 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 2: have like these big Yeah, like I already know, I 901 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 2: already know I am. 902 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 1: Your intuition is ready for it. 903 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 2: It's definitely ready for it. It goes yeah, right. 904 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: And Jupiter right now is transitting. So while this has 905 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 1: been happening with your noble return, Jupiter has been transiting 906 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 1: your tenth house in cancer. So your mid heaven is 907 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: cancer right at the top of your chart. And so 908 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 1: this leads your career, which is this sign of nurturance, 909 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: which is this intuition, which is this emotion. And so 910 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 1: I would say for you, like you need to emotionally 911 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,839 Speaker 1: be able to connect with a character in order to 912 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:10,320 Speaker 1: make that role successful. And again, like we talked about, 913 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,800 Speaker 1: this speaks to you attracting characters that actually can unlock 914 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:19,359 Speaker 1: another level of emotion within you. And so cancer at 915 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: the mid heaven means your emotions, your intuition is going 916 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 1: to always lead your life's work, Okay, and Jupiter and 917 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 1: so cancer then governs your tenth house. And so Jupiter 918 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: has been transiting your tenth house, so expanding your life's work, 919 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 1: expanding your career, as this has been occurring with your 920 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 1: nodal return, and so there is a deep element of 921 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 1: expansion happening here really from the inside out with you 922 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 1: and that Jupiter. That Jupiter transit will end also in 923 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 1: the summer at the end of June, it will move 924 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 1: into Leo. Keep getting the thumbs up. It's so ridiculous, 925 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,839 Speaker 1: loves me. I'm got to turn that off on riverside, 926 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 1: turn the thumbs up over, turn it off. But so 927 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 1: Jupiter will enter Leo also this summer, and then it 928 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,399 Speaker 1: will start expanding a little bit more of your tenth house. 929 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 1: It'll still be there, and then it crosses into your 930 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 1: eleventh and so it will actually expand your ability to hope, 931 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 1: to dream, to connect with others on a larger collective scale. 932 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,720 Speaker 1: And so when I see Jupiter like transit eleventh House 933 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 1: for a lot of people, that's sort of when they 934 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 1: step on stage, but not to really be seen, but 935 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,400 Speaker 1: to spread some kind of message of some sort. And 936 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 1: so that's coming for you next year. It'll start this summer. 937 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,360 Speaker 1: Maybe you'll integrate some of the wisdom that you've learned. 938 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: This is how we like start connecting things. It's like, oh, 939 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 1: you've just been brought a bag of w dom it 940 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 1: sounds like, and you will integrate that, and there might 941 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 1: be a core message from that that you want to 942 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,799 Speaker 1: share in an expanded way to the collective. 943 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 2: Yes, it's all crazy. It's like also the your choice 944 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 2: of actual words that you're using are really tripping me out. Okay, 945 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 2: it's just so in a good way, in a good way, 946 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:26,919 Speaker 2: in a good way, in a good way that it's 947 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 2: just like it's so crazy. 948 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's fun when we start looking at like 949 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 1: what's happening in the sky for you, like what's actually 950 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 1: occurring and how it's hitting your chart m h. And 951 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 1: that's where astrology becomes very very practical for making decisions 952 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 1: and for understanding just like what are we doing? You know, 953 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 1: when should we do certain things? When should we not? 954 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 2: When? 955 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 1: How can we make meaning of things? But seeing this 956 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 1: pairing of looking at Jupiter and where it's expanding and 957 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,000 Speaker 1: where it's transitting with this noble return, I'm like, wow, 958 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 1: there's like there's some change in your life coming and 959 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 1: that change eventually is going to lead to some higher 960 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:11,440 Speaker 1: messages coming from you. 961 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 2: Right, So is that the place in your chart where 962 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 2: you go, Okay, I'm on the right path. 963 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: I think that's you're on the right path. 964 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 2: I mean, because if it's showing in the chart that 965 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 2: there's all this change and it is actually happening in 966 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 2: my life, all this change, it's it's it's supposed to 967 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 2: help you believe right that it's it's it is the transition. Yes, yes, 968 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 2: it's like if in the house, the house, like if 969 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 2: your chart was like don't go anywhere, like stay put, 970 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 2: everything's fine the way it is, you know, stop trying 971 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 2: to change everything. You know, you you want to believe 972 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 2: that that would maybe make you second guess, like this 973 00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,920 Speaker 2: concept of like change and move and transformation. But I 974 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 2: like to take this message as like, Okay, that means 975 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 2: I'm on the right path. I am going with what 976 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 2: I am feeling and what is pulling me. 977 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 1: Correct correct change is in your chart right now. And 978 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: you do have a lot of energy of transformation. So 979 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 1: there will be times in your life where you have 980 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,480 Speaker 1: to question yourself like, oh am I changing everything just 981 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 1: because I love transformation and I'm just like burning it 982 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,920 Speaker 1: down because that's what I do and that feels comfortable 983 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 1: to me. And so that's like something you need to 984 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 1: answer for yourself, like, hey, am I like sabotaging this 985 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: right now because I love transformation. And then there's times 986 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 1: like now where you're going through a major change, Like 987 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 1: anybody who I would talk to you that's going through 988 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 1: a nodal return, I'm like, there's change in your chart 989 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 1: right now, like it's happening, and so lean into that 990 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 1: and know that that is part of your life's plan. 991 00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 1: But from the fall, you know, maybe let it simmer 992 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 1: down a little. 993 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because I'll be exhausted from all the change. 994 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 1: There's that, there's that, you know, be where you are 995 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 1: and let yourself be complete because with all of this 996 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 1: Scorpio and you know this energy Pluto right on your ascendant, 997 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 1: which is going to encourage transformation of your identity, you know, 998 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 1: that does lead itself to being like, Okay, I need 999 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,920 Speaker 1: to change. How can I grow more? How can I 1000 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 1: change more? How can I go into the next cycle? 1001 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 1: And so you will have to stop yourself at times 1002 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 1: and be like I'm good, I'm cooked for the moment. 1003 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm just going to sit in my garden. I'm just 1004 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 1: going to be I'm just going to be here. I'm 1005 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 1: going to be with the change I already created and 1006 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 1: find my new baseline. And so that will be important. 1007 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: And anybody who has like a lot of Scorpio a 1008 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 1: predominant Pluto placement, you have both needs needs that word 1009 01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,200 Speaker 1: of advice. Like some sometimes just let it be just 1010 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:05,920 Speaker 1: be perfect good as is right. But yeah, there's change 1011 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,000 Speaker 1: in your chart right now. Yeah, and it's going to 1012 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 1: integrate into some wisdom, and that wisdom is going to 1013 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 1: expand your presence in the collective. 1014 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 2: M Yeah. I mean, isn't that one it's for. Isn't 1015 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 2: that why we should all like believe and listen to 1016 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 2: older women? I mean, this is where I get so confused, 1017 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 2: where I'm like, why are you disregarding the fact that 1018 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 2: we've gone through all of this for a reason to 1019 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 2: then give the wisdom? Right? So yeah, that's my soapbox. 1020 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 1: But getting back to where we started with Libra and 1021 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 1: your mercury and your honest there, not everybody is going 1022 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 1: to be able to receive and integrate and understand the 1023 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 1: wisdom that you have. And that doesn't mean that you 1024 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 1: need to appalyize for it. That doesn't mean you need 1025 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 1: to hide it or swallow it. That just means they're 1026 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 1: not ready. It's a DEM problem, not a U problem. 1027 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 1: And so that's something really important for you to remember. 1028 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 1029 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,280 Speaker 1: But lean into this power. Lean into this Pluto Pluto 1030 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 1: Mars right on the ascendant. Like that's power, right, You 1031 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,200 Speaker 1: have power in your presence. It's not just in the 1032 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 1: characters that you play like you exude power, right, you 1033 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 1: want to step into that, Okay, even if it makes 1034 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 1: other people feel uncomfortable. 1035 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 2: Right, all right, right, I know that's that people pleasing 1036 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 2: thing that I'm that I'm trying to leave behind. 1037 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we need to attach from that next full moon, 1038 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,959 Speaker 1: release that release that energy. Put your crystals out next 1039 01:02:55,960 --> 01:03:00,000 Speaker 1: full moon and write a letter to that people please 1040 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 1: part thank it for its service and saying I am 1041 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 1: done with you now mm hmm. And it'll only be there. 1042 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 1: It'll always like ride you know, in the car. 1043 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 2: With you, right, I mean I just can't imagine it not. 1044 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it's also isn't that interesting, right because I 1045 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 2: just like it, Like I like please, I like making 1046 01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 2: people happy. I like I like pleasing people and making 1047 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,439 Speaker 2: sure they're all good and yeah, okay, it's it's such 1048 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 2: a weird thing. 1049 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's good. Like we want people 1050 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 1: in society like that, right, who are looking out for 1051 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,280 Speaker 1: others and have empathy and have compassion. It's just not 1052 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,720 Speaker 1: at the expense of you and what you need. Like 1053 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 1: that's the difference. It's like, yes, people pleasing is really 1054 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 1: about It's not just about people pleasing in that term. 1055 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 1: It's really about putting yourself second. 1056 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,480 Speaker 2: Yes, which a lot of women do. 1057 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 1: A lot of women do. A lot of women do 1058 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:10,480 Speaker 1: for so many reasons. And it's your journey to learn that, 1059 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,160 Speaker 1: understand that, and then maybe spread that message to others. 1060 01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,120 Speaker 2: M h I'm trying, definitely. 1061 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 1: I think it's a good message. You know, lean into 1062 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 1: those powerful intelligent women you play and emotion. Right, we 1063 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 1: don't just have to lead with like power and like 1064 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,960 Speaker 1: masculine energy like women can lead with emotion as well. 1065 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,560 Speaker 2: Right, you know, yeah, I agree, I agree. That is 1066 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,560 Speaker 2: what I mean. There's a lot of things that separate us, 1067 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 2: but that is the biggest thing that I think separates 1068 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 2: us as leaders, as women as leaders. 1069 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can lean into that. And you've got 1070 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,200 Speaker 1: that cancer right at your mid heaven, and so you 1071 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: lean into that. I'm going to lead with emotion in 1072 01:04:58,360 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 1: my life's work. 1073 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:00,520 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 1074 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 1: That's what that means. 1075 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,640 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Wow. What a trip. 1076 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I think I've given you a lot to process. 1077 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 1: Layers on layers, layers, layers. 1078 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 2: I love layers. 1079 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 1: Do you have any questions before we end? 1080 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I mean, you know, it's it's 1081 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 2: Uh No, I mean you've you've really laid it all 1082 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 2: out in such a way that just makes me. I mean, 1083 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:39,600 Speaker 2: I'm always so mind blown by astrology in general because 1084 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:48,640 Speaker 2: it is so bizarre that we are born into this, right, yeah, 1085 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 2: and yet we believe that we are still so formed 1086 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,160 Speaker 2: by the people in our lives, which we are, right, 1087 01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 2: but still at the core, it's like all. 1088 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 1: There, yeah, with the energy and our breath part is 1089 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 1: the energy of the universe. The moment we're born, we 1090 01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,720 Speaker 1: take that in, right, and so. 1091 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,960 Speaker 2: It's just then it just never leaves you. That's what 1092 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 2: That's what's wild, right is it never leaves you. 1093 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and in different ways, and you can find different 1094 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,360 Speaker 1: angles of expression for it. You can find you know, 1095 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 1: all the signs have a low side of high side. 1096 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,240 Speaker 1: You can reach for the high side, you can understand 1097 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,600 Speaker 1: the low sides. But yeah, it's with you always. You'll 1098 01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 1: always be a Libra, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, you always 1099 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:35,280 Speaker 1: carry that energy. 1100 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, how mad were I was going to say, how 1101 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,720 Speaker 2: mad were you? And they were like, all the signs 1102 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 2: are wrong, everything's shifted, and I was like, wait, I'm 1103 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 2: not a Libra. 1104 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that habits like once a year, that happens I 1105 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,640 Speaker 1: feel like I'm like, all right. 1106 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't know if I believe that. 1107 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I'm a Libra. I was like, nay, I. 1108 01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,720 Speaker 1: Am, Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure you're a libert. After 1109 01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:05,920 Speaker 1: having the people pleasing compound give away, yeah exactly, exactly. 1110 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 2: Well, I'm so grateful. I just this kind of stuff. Really, 1111 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, it just makes me feel good, you know. 1112 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 1: Good good. Yeah, that's what should be there for. I 1113 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,200 Speaker 1: don't like dooming gloom astrology, like it should make you 1114 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:22,920 Speaker 1: feel good to learn about yourself. It should make you 1115 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 1: feel good to learn about the energies that are around 1116 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,440 Speaker 1: you that we can harness to create this, that and 1117 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,880 Speaker 1: the other thing. Like why else do it? 1118 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 2: You know? 1119 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 1: Should help us learn and grow, not make us feel 1120 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:34,400 Speaker 1: bad about ourselves. 1121 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, there's enough people out there that do that 1122 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:38,760 Speaker 2: for us. Yeah. 1123 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:42,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't need our charge to do that. No, 1124 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 1: before we end, tell people where they can find you. 1125 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 2: Oh they can find me. Yeah, you can find me 1126 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 2: on Instagram. So Constance Zimmer is what I am on Instagram. 1127 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,680 Speaker 2: I also have a podcast called Talk fifty to Me, 1128 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,320 Speaker 2: which is also that's the tie, that's the where you 1129 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,920 Speaker 2: can find it at Talk fifty to me. And I 1130 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:12,200 Speaker 2: also have a media company called The Midlife Collective Nice 1131 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 2: that you can follow at m Life Collective on Instagram. 1132 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:23,880 Speaker 2: And yeah, oh and I also have a you're like, 1133 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,080 Speaker 2: why did I ask this question? And then I also 1134 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:34,080 Speaker 2: have a play in development called The Midlife Monologues Nice 1135 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:41,240 Speaker 2: and that is also under the Midlife Monologues Instagram. So yeah, see, 1136 01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,800 Speaker 2: I'm trying. I'm trying to lead with the wisdom that 1137 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 2: I've been gaining. I love that these years. And we'll 1138 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 2: put everything in the show notes so people don't have 1139 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,439 Speaker 2: to remember it. They can get the West show Notes 1140 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,479 Speaker 2: and find the resources and find you there. 1141 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,680 Speaker 1: But that's exciting. I'm excited to explore all of that 1142 01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 1: as well. So I'm apparently in midlife. 1143 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:04,479 Speaker 2: So it isn't it fun? It's so fun this midlife 1144 01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:09,000 Speaker 2: like who's doing it? Is? It is interesting? But yeah, 1145 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 2: you want to talk about change and transformation and all 1146 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,840 Speaker 2: of that, right, like it's happens whether you want it 1147 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:19,920 Speaker 2: to or not, and that is to me the most fascinating. 1148 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,760 Speaker 2: I was like, I liked that girl back there, but 1149 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,920 Speaker 2: I got to leave her back there. That's fine. We 1150 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,240 Speaker 2: had fun and now I'm gonna become this woman over here, 1151 01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,960 Speaker 2: and let's see what that does for me. 1152 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, evolution, evolution. Well, thank you so much for coming on, 1153 01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,320 Speaker 1: for having this conversation, being honest about who you are. 1154 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,479 Speaker 1: It's just people can learn so much from even just 1155 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:45,240 Speaker 1: this conversation. 1156 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,840 Speaker 2: So thank you. Wow, thank you, thank you for having 1157 01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 2: me and for taking the time and for explaining it 1158 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:52,559 Speaker 2: so well. 1159 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, great, that's what we do here. 1160 01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:00,400 Speaker 2: I love it, so I love you, Thank you, thank 1161 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 2: you so much, Thank you. 1162 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,559 Speaker 1: So much for listening today. I hope this episode spark 1163 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,520 Speaker 1: something within you, maybe a new way of seeing yourself, 1164 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 1: or a question worth sitting with, or maybe it just 1165 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:16,320 Speaker 1: helped you remember your power. And if this episode resonated, 1166 01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 1: I'd love for you to share it with a friend 1167 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 1: who might need to hear it too. And if you 1168 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,920 Speaker 1: haven't already, hit subscribe so that you never miss a 1169 01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:27,320 Speaker 1: Cosmic download. 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