1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Canf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio apps. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: The President's State of the Union messager was last night. 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 2: It was different kind of State of the Union. Now 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: when you watch them, first of all, you're you know, 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: you're watching that through the lens of I've heard so 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: much about Joe Biden, you know, not knowing where he 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: is and not being able to find a men's room, 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: and he doesn't you know, doesn't know what day it is, 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 2: all this stuff. 11 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 3: A guy comes out and he you know, he was 12 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: firing heat. 13 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 2: And again, then you can talk about the substance of it, 14 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 2: but that right away was like wow. And then I 15 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: watched the GOP response as well. So for that and 16 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: also California Issues, I turned to Alex Michaelson. He is 17 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: the host of The Issue is on Fox eleven and 18 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: it's also across television stations in California. I want to 19 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: check in on Prop one where that sits, and talk 20 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 2: to him generally about politics in California. 21 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 3: High Elex. 22 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 4: Aymar, good to be with you, Yes, sir. 23 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: Thoughts on last night. 24 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 4: Well, I mean it was a level of energy that 25 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: we haven't seen from Joe Biden in years. For Democrats 26 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 4: who privately have worried for months that Joe Biden is 27 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 4: too old and who were sort of collectively holding their 28 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 4: breath that he would be able to literally make it 29 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 4: to the stage last night, I think they were surprised, relieved, 30 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 4: and in some ways excited not only to not, you know, 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 4: the vote against Donald Trump, but that he's somebody who 32 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 4: has some fight in him. There is no doubt, especially 33 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 4: somebody who's covered him and seen him up close, including 34 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago when he was here in California, 35 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 4: that his voice was stronger, his walk was stronger, I mean, 36 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 4: everything about him was more intense. On the Republican side, 37 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: people were openly calling him jacked up Joe. That's what 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: John Anay would saying, sort of claiming that he was 39 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 4: injected with some sort of drugs to get him temporarily 40 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 4: stuff and ready to go. And that seems to be 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 4: the thing. It was interesting how a lot of the 42 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 4: president's critics before the speech were frustrated that he was 43 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 4: too old, too slow, spoke too softly, and wasn't coherent, 44 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 4: and then at the end of the night say that 45 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: he's too loud, too strong, and on drugs. So but 46 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: if you were, you know, the president, that's a win. 47 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 4: If the biggest concern about you is that you're you're 48 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 4: too old and too slow, and you know, you show that, 49 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 4: at least for a night, you're not. The question is 50 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 4: going to be going forward is can he keep up 51 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: some level of that energy when he's out on the 52 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 4: stump day after day. You know, when you're the president, 53 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 4: you literally have a camera following you everywhere you go, 54 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: and it's really hard to hide stuff. 55 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: You know. 56 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: It's interesting too, the state of the Union crowd that 57 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 2: in Congress has just changed. I mean there used to 58 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: be sort of this decorum about things now and there's 59 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: no signage allowed typically. I think that's a rule, you know, 60 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: but there was signage during the time that Trump was president. 61 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: As I recalled, there were Democratic Congress people again as 62 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: I recall, who were carrying some signage. They were holding 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: signs as Trump was speaking. I didn't like that. And 64 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: then last night it was like a heckler's at a 65 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: comedy club. I mean, it was crazy the kind of 66 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: headwinds that he had to push through in terms of 67 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: heckling the rules of decorum, are now it seems more elastic. 68 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 4: Well, you remember when there was a congressman named Joe 69 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 4: Wilson who screened out you lie during Barack Obama's State 70 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: of the Union, and that was seen as as like 71 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 4: such a sacrilegious moment, such a shocking moment, that somebody 72 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: would shout out something during the State of the Union. 73 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 4: And now it's so expected that it appeared to me 74 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 4: that both last year and this year, Joe Biden had 75 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: lines ready to go, assuming that they were going to 76 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: shout out at him at some point. I mean, Marjorie 77 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 4: Taylor Green certainly telegraphed that she wanted him to talk 78 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: about Lake and Riley. You know, you saw that face 79 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: of his, which became a meme of just shock when 80 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: he sees her in a make America Great Again hat, 81 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 4: which you're not allowed to wear hat on the floor, 82 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: But that didn't stop her from doing that. And then 83 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 4: she just screams out, you know, say her name about 84 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: Lake and Riley. And then Joe Biden, of course says 85 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 4: Lincoln Riley, who is the USC head coach, who I 86 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 4: guess a nice shout out. 87 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: It was close. It was close, It was. 88 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: Close, It was close, and it at least acknowledged it, 89 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 4: but it was Yeah, the whole decorum of the whole 90 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 4: speech has has changed, and and I frankly think for 91 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 4: the worst. You know it, and you know, you think 92 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 4: about even like ten years ago, the point of the 93 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 4: State of the Union was to report on the state 94 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 4: of the Union but then also try to talk about 95 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 4: ways that the President and the Congress can try to 96 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 4: pass legislation together to try to better people's lives. And 97 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 4: and last night's address just felt like a campaig rally. 98 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 4: I mean, they're literally chanting four more years on the 99 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 4: floor as he gives his speech. And I also don't 100 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 4: remember a State of the Union where somebody so aggressively 101 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 4: went after their political opponent as Biden did last night, 102 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 4: saying my predecessor over and over again and really setting 103 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 4: it up as a contrast between him and Donald Trump. 104 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 4: It is clear that, you know, with the Trump era 105 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 4: changed so much about politics, and last night, you know, 106 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 4: Joe Biden seemed to acknowledge that and lean into that 107 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 4: as compared to trying to, you know, create another era, 108 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 4: which he sometimes is accused of doing. 109 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: When we come back, I want to ask you about 110 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: can you stay with us for a few more minutes, 111 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 2: would you mind? 112 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 4: Sure? 113 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: Okay, when we come back, I want to ask you 114 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: about the one Heckler who was removed, but beyond that, 115 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: I want to turn to California politics. Katie Porter is 116 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: now saying that the Senate race was rigged. In addition 117 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 2: to that, we've got Prop one and various local and 118 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: California issues that I'd like to just quickly check off 119 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: with you on. And that's really cool if you can 120 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: hang on. So Alex Michaelson from Fox eleven. His show 121 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: is the issue is it's seen on stations across California. 122 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: We'll continue with him in a second. Is that John 123 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 2: Cobelt Show? Mark Thompson sitting in for John on I 124 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 125 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 126 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 5: six forty. 127 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: It is John Coelebelt's show, John Off for the weekend, 128 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: and we're talking to Alex Michaelson from Fox eleven. He 129 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: of the issue is that show is seen, It talks politics, interviews, 130 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: There's great access to a lot of newsmakers across California. 131 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: That show airs and here on Fox eleven. 132 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: So Alex, we were talking about and just wrapping up 133 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: conversation about the State of the Union address last night. 134 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: There was one ejection of Heckler, and let me just 135 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 2: play the Heckler. Now, this is the ejection. 136 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 3: The America is safeer today. And when I took office. 137 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: Year before I took office. 138 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 6: Murder race went up thirty percent, thirty percent, they went up, 139 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 6: the biggest increase in history. 140 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 4: It was then. 141 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: Through my American Rescue Plan, which every American voted against 142 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: time had had, we made the largest investment in public 143 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: safety ever. 144 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: So as it turns out, that was the father of 145 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: a marine who was killed in Afghanistan, isn't that right? 146 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 4: Yes? And I believe that there's a local connection to 147 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: him too, that he's from here, and you know, you 148 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 4: feel his pain and you feel for him for his loss, 149 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: the ultimate loss that you could have. But he was ejected. 150 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 4: They did not eject any of the members of the 151 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 4: House who decided to do a car and response comedy 152 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 4: routine with the president. But that gold Star. 153 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: Father was Yeah. 154 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: I mean, as you say, you can understand his heartbreak 155 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: and his frustration. And I'll put that to the side 156 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: because it was just such an over the top of disruption. 157 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: I guess everyone in law enforcement who's there to protect 158 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: the hall feels compelled to do something and injectionone like that. 159 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: I do think that they need to maybe crack the 160 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: whip over many of these members of Congress who have 161 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: sort of turned this into, you know, like one of 162 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: those European soccer message. 163 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: Mass yelling contest. It's really getting out of control. 164 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 2: I said that when Trump was resident, and I say 165 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: it when Biden's president. I mean, like, we're going to 166 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 2: do this or not. You know, it's just a little 167 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: bit crazy. 168 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it's just like then, you know, I mean, 169 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 4: I was I was moderating one of the debates for 170 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 4: La County District Attorney a couple of months ago, and 171 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 4: the organizers of that did not want there to be 172 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 4: time limits and did not want there to be rules, 173 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 4: which I disagreed with, but I did because it was 174 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 4: their thing. And then they wanted to do Q and A, 175 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 4: which I also disagreed with, but I did because it 176 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 4: was their thing. And it turned into just shouting matches 177 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 4: with people screaming stuff from the crowd. And what I 178 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 4: said to them at the time was if you want 179 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 4: to be up on this stage run for district attorney, 180 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 4: like you know, we're here to listen to these folks. 181 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 4: They put their names on the ballot, they did the work. 182 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 4: This is their opportunity, and you know, with respect, like 183 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 4: part of winning the presidency is you get to deliver 184 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 4: the state of the Union you want. And this is 185 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 4: Joe Biden's knight, and there will be other nights for 186 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 4: Donald Trump, and there'll be other nights with these members. 187 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 4: It just seems, you know, very disrespectful to the office itself. 188 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 4: But there's so much less respect for the office itself 189 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: and for the institution itself, which I think we as 190 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 4: a country are frankly the worse. 191 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: For Yeah, I would have to agree. 192 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: And I just think that you've now entered a period 193 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: during which and you' you just described I think another 194 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: instance of it. Your personal brand is associated with how 195 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: much noise you make, and if you can get a 196 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 2: media moment making noise, sometimes that's worth more than any 197 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: kind of progress in a discussion of ideas. 198 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: But you know that for another time. 199 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: Katie Porter is saying that the US Senate race was rigged. 200 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: I mean, and she uses the word rigged, I you know, 201 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: I kind of understood how she was maybe feeling out gunned, 202 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: you with the corporate money going up against her, a 203 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: the three D chess of Shift, essentially shoving money or 204 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: support toward Garvey to kind of edge out Katie Barb. 205 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: I kind of got that bar But when she uses 206 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: the word rigged, wow, it just has a completely different connotation. 207 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, we just take the issue is and my pal 208 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 4: Brian Goldsmith said, using the word rigged in Democratic Party 209 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 4: is like saying Boldemort. Like it is the word you 210 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 4: are not supposed to say, because it is, you know, 211 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: such a toxic loaded phrase after Donald Trump has used 212 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 4: it so much much to question the integrity of our elections, 213 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 4: and Democrats do not like to hear that word. I mean, 214 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 4: what she's saying is that there were crypto billionaires who 215 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 4: spent millions of dollars on negative ads against her, which 216 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 4: is true. That Adam Shift spent over eleven million dollars 217 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 4: trying to lift up Steve Garvey's Republican campaign, which is 218 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 4: also true, and that all those forces were rigging the election. 219 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 4: But that is a tough word. As far as I know, 220 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 4: she has not called Adam Shift to concede or congratulate him. 221 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 4: At least that was the case when we interviewed him 222 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 4: on Wednesday afternoon, and we haven't seen any public statements 223 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: congratulating Adam Shift. She did not, as far as we know, 224 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 4: attend the State of the Union last night. Shift was there, 225 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 4: Barbara Lee was there, both of them having moments with 226 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 4: President Biden, both of them celebrating the Democratic administration. She 227 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 4: was not. So there's clearly a lot of frustration on 228 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: her part, but a lot of frustration among fellow Democrats 229 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 4: using that word rigged and not, frankly, being a little 230 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 4: bit more of a team player in endorsing the person 231 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 4: who is likely to be the next Senator and their nominee, 232 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 4: essentially Adam Shift. But that whole thing of her not 233 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 4: being more of a team player is something she was 234 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 4: sort of proud of as part of her appeal and 235 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: a big reason why, you know, eighty percent of the 236 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 4: Democratic caucus in the House endorsed Shift and did not 237 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 4: endorse her. Robert Garcia the only member of the House 238 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 4: that actually endorsed her, and he endorsed and congratulated Shift, 239 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 4: you know, within hours of his victory. 240 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, talk to me about prop one. Where does that shit. 241 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 4: Really close. I mean, I'm looking at the numbers right now. 242 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 4: It's that yes, that's fifty point three percent. No is 243 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 4: at forty nine point seven. So it doesn't get a 244 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 4: lot closer than that. I mean, the good news for 245 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 4: Prop one is it had never gotten under fifty percent. 246 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: You just need to be over So it's it's you know, 247 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 4: they're going to be it's harder to make up votes. 248 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: But this is something that you know, weeks ago, pulled 249 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 4: much higher. In the last few weeks as the electric 250 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: became older, whier, more conservative, more you know, questioning of government, 251 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 4: you know, sort of turned against this thing. Governor Newsom 252 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 4: put his face all over this, his signature issue on 253 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 4: the ballot. It looks like maybe it'll barely pass, but 254 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: it's it's tough to know exactly at this point. 255 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: And just to amount of everybody, this is the prop 256 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: that is targeted to homeless people with serious mental health 257 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 2: and addiction issues, and you're going to pay for better 258 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: housing and treatment and vocational and rental assistance with this 259 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: prop one. 260 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: And so yeah, it's it's too close to call. 261 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: So I'm sorry, So how much how many what's the 262 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: percentage still outstanding in terms of the count. 263 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 4: I mean there are at least hundreds of thousands of 264 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 4: ballots that still need to be counted, okay, and so 265 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 4: it's still unclear where exactly those are coming from and 266 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 4: who and what the late boat is saying. So it's 267 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 4: hard to make a call on that. 268 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 3: Where can we see the issue is? It's on Fox 269 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 3: eleven when. 270 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 4: Tonight at ten thirty we have sit down with Adam Shift, 271 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 4: his first sit down after advancing, and my pals Mike 272 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 4: Murphy and Brian Goldsmith with some great analysis of both 273 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: the Senate race and the state of the Union tonight 274 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 4: at ten thirty on Fox eleven. 275 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: Love it and if you're in another place, you can 276 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: see it in Cross California at different stations. Always good 277 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: to talk to you, Alex Michaelson, my best everybody at 278 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: Fox eleven. 279 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us here. 280 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 4: Thank you very much. The issue is show dot com. 281 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 4: If you live somewhere else, you can find out the 282 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: info there. Thanks Mark. 283 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: The issue is show dot com. Alexmichaelson from Fox eleven. 284 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: Mark Thompson here for John on KFI AM six forty. 285 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: When we come back, TikTok, I know. 286 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: This. I hope you're sitting down. It may be going away. 287 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: It's a reasonable possibility that it will either be massively 288 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: modified or it may conceivably go away not be accessible. 289 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that with a TikToker who is right 290 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: here on the co belt staff. 291 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 5: Next, you're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI 292 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 5: AM six forty on KFI AM six forty Live everywhere 293 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 5: in the iHeartRadio app. 294 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: I'm just seeing pictures of George Santos. I forgot he 295 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: was at that state at the Union last night. You know, 296 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: my de facto wife got me a George Santos cameo 297 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: for my birthday. Yeah, it's pretty great, and I wish 298 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: I could if I can find it, like in a 299 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: way to send it to Ray maybe we can do 300 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: it or Eric, we'll figure out a way to maybe 301 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: run it down the air. It's pretty funny, you know, 302 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: just a twenty second thing, but man, and it was 303 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: the greatest birthday gift you could possibly have. 304 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 6: Anyway, if you have the MP four of it, just 305 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 6: email it to me and we can we can probably 306 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 6: figure it out totally. 307 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: I'll do it in the break for sure. Yeah. 308 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: Now, just speaking of apps and stuff, that's caught on 309 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: cameo is really hot, but the hottest is TikTok, and 310 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: TikTok really might be going away. And the voice you heard, 311 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: Eric's voice, Eric's guide or connection to TikTok. This show's 312 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: connection is Eric, and I'm wondering, have you been following this? 313 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 3: Eric? 314 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: Joe Biden now is saying that he would sign legislation 315 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: to ban TikTok if the Chinese owner Byte Dance doesn't divest. 316 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: He says, if they pass it, that is to say, 317 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: legislation that would bar TikTok being accessible because of the 318 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: Chinese ownership. If they pass it, I'll sign it, he said. 319 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: It is bipartisan legislation is on track to get a 320 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: vote next week in the House. It's called the Protecting 321 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act. 322 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: It's all right there in the title. 323 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: It would need to pass the Senate also before it 324 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 2: got to Biden's desk, of course, but Biden is saying, 325 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: you know, you passed both houses of Congress. I'll sign it. 326 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: It would allow the president, via the FBI and intelligence agencies, 327 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: to name certain social media apps as national security threats. 328 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 2: That's if they're determined to be under the control of 329 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: foreign adversaries. They'd be banned from US app stores unless 330 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: they sever tize with those foreign controlled entities within one 331 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty days. So they're trying to force and 332 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: they've made no bones about this in Congress. They're trying 333 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: to force byte edance, and there again the owners of 334 00:17:55,080 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 2: TikTok to divest the app. Their concerns learned about whether 335 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: China can access US user data, as well as TikTok's 336 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: effect on young people. So you've got you know, it's 337 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: bad effect on young people and the fact that they're 338 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: essentially mining all of that user information and it's getting 339 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: into the hands of the Chinese government. How will that 340 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 2: affect how you do business for this show? 341 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 6: I ask you, Eric, Well, we don't really do much 342 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 6: social media stuff on TikTok because actually TikTok isn't really 343 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 6: our demographic for the show, and you mentioned it because 344 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 6: there's so many kids that are on TikTok. That's also 345 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 6: one of the reasons why I don't personally use TikTok. 346 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 6: Is I didn't really think when it came out, it 347 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 6: was like I was not TikTok's target demographic. So I 348 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 6: didn't really hop on the TikTok train right when it 349 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 6: first started. I also, coincidentally enough, when TikTok was first 350 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 6: coming out and there were all the questions about the 351 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 6: parent company of TikTok and the questionable relations they have 352 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 6: with the Chinese government and the data mining and all 353 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 6: of that, I had just watched the movie Snowed In, 354 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 6: so I was completely freaked out by it, and I 355 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 6: I never made an account, but now I do have 356 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 6: a TikTok account now, just because I wanted to take 357 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 6: my at the Duke of Sports, useer name and make 358 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 6: sure nobody else got to it. And I was just like, ah, 359 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 6: maybe I will use it, maybe I won't, But I've 360 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 6: never actually done anything with it. I just I still 361 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 6: don't think I'm the target demographic for TikTok. It was 362 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 6: like mainly when it first started, it was just kids 363 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 6: and dancing and absolutely right and things like that, and 364 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 6: so it just I never thought I was the target demographic. 365 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 6: It never really piqued my interest. But I remember Trump 366 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 6: wanting to go through with this when he was president, 367 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 6: and now to see how quickly it's moved through the 368 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 6: House and the committees and all of that to the 369 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 6: point where it's at now where it can be up 370 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 6: for a vote in the Senate, and then Biden says 371 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 6: he'll sign it. I think I would before banning to 372 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 6: talk in the US for all of the data mining 373 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 6: purposes and the negative impacts it has on kids. With 374 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 6: the addictive algorithm that it has to keep people scrolling 375 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 6: and keep people on the app for hours and hours 376 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 6: at a time. 377 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: It is amazing that what Eric saying is so true. 378 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: I mean, there is just this impossible magnetic kind of 379 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 2: connection that keeps kids on there, and it starts to innocuously, 380 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 2: you know, with the dancing and everything. You just don't 381 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: think there's going to be any real issue, and before 382 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 2: you know it, you know you're you're into deep stuff. 383 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't mean to sound like, you know, 384 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: they get off my lawn, guy, but it is true 385 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: that it is. It's negative repercussions are pronounced. And by 386 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: the way, the TikTok that we get in the US 387 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: is different than TikTok they get in China. 388 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 6: Yes, apparently Brandon was just telling me that in China 389 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 6: there's time limits for kids on TikTok, and it's like, 390 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 6: there's no chance anybody would tell a parent, like the 391 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 6: government is going to tell a parent how to parent 392 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 6: their kid, and putting a time limit on an app 393 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 6: for someone. 394 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: I don't think that would go over well here, No, 395 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: I mean just the opposite. 396 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure there are people listening right now, like, yeah, exactly, 397 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 2: that's China and this American kids going on exactly. 398 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 399 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 6: But it's interesting though because we kind of had a 400 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 6: similar conversation yesterday with John about the addictive nature of 401 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 6: dating apps and how they're getting in trouble for coming 402 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 6: up with an addictive algorithm to keep people on the 403 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 6: app while they're showing them people but not actually getting 404 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 6: them dates in real life. 405 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: It's all about how long they can keep you on 406 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: the platform and how much money you spend on the platform, right, right, 407 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 2: And generally there's an upsell if you want to see 408 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: more potential mates for yourself, right, Yeah, you pay a 409 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: little bit more. So again, this is bipartisan, It really 410 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 2: may happen. So they'll vote next week, you know, then 411 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: go to the Senate and Biden's saying yeah, I'll sign it, 412 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 2: and they're saying, hey, look TikTok can still exist. We're 413 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: just asking this company to divest, but that's a big ask. 414 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 6: So also one more thing with TikTok. It'll be interesting 415 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 6: to see the impact that it has. Because we've done 416 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 6: on the show with John, we've talked a lot about 417 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 6: immigration in the border, and a lot of Chinese migrants 418 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 6: that are coming over the border have said to media 419 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 6: people that they've been interviewed by they literally got the 420 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 6: instructions on how to cross the border through TikTok. 421 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 2: Sure crazy, yeah, no exactly. I mean social media. The 422 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: how to on crossing the border is across social media 423 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: in various places, and it makes sense that many Chinese 424 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 2: immigrants are get it from you, that Chinese app. 425 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 3: So more on that. It's funny. 426 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: You know, I did the show, The Mark Thompson Show 427 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: on YouTube, so I do this and it's hard enough 428 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: just amount of show on YouTube, it's a total. It's 429 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 2: incredibly to try to do it really well and successful 430 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: as hard And now I was just having this conversation 431 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 2: two weeks ago. You got to have a presence on TikTok. Man, 432 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 2: TikTok's what it's tech text Tiktoks. You've gotta absolutely have 433 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: a footprint there. So it's like, oh my god, so 434 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: I had to go on sign up for TikTok for 435 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: the show. But now TikTok may go away. That may 436 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: be a gift to me, actually, but they're gonna get 437 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 2: a lot of blowback. Last thing. They're gonna get tremendous 438 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: blowback I'm talking about Congress will get blowback from constituents 439 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: about TikTok leaving. You don't have as popular an app 440 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 2: as you have going away without hearing about it. 441 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: From your constituency. So it's a one to watch. 442 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: Hey, when we come back, there is legit sad news 443 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 2: out of. 444 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: Big Bear. I'll share that with you. Next. 445 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: John Covelt Show, Mark Thompson sitting in for John on 446 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 447 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 448 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 5: six forty. 449 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: Mark Thompson's sitting in for John and I don't know 450 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: about you, but it's just sort of one of those 451 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: stories that breaks your heart. A you're able to follow it, 452 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: see what's happening, and B you have this rooting interest 453 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 2: and if you have a heart that this eagle and 454 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: it's eggs flourish. You know, one of the Big Bear 455 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:30,239 Speaker 2: Eagles eggs that was on the verge of hatching is 456 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: experts say no longer viable to hatch, which is its 457 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 2: own kind of heartbreak. If you've been watching the feed 458 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: from there, it's very cool the feed. The camera's right 459 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: up in the nest and so you get ano education 460 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: in all of this stuff. But there's growing concern about 461 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: these eggs generally. Jackie in Shadow the Eagles, an eagle 462 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: expert with the Friends of Big Bear Valley, the organization 463 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: that hosts the bald eagles nestcam, says that one of 464 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: the three eggs is no longer viable to hatch. The 465 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: incubation period for eggs normally thirty five to thirty eight days. 466 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: The eggs were laid January twenty fifth, twenty eight and 467 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: thirty first, so this means that this weekend would be 468 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: the end of viability for all of them. So there's 469 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 2: concern that none of them essentially will be viable. This 470 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: is the first time that the two are incubating a clutch, 471 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: as they're called, of three eggs. In twenty twenty two, 472 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 2: Jackie in Shadow successfully hatched an eglet later named Spirit. 473 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: They had a contest to name the eaglet, and Spirit 474 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 2: won the contest and was held by Friends of Big 475 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: Bear Valley. Remember when they had that contest to name 476 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: that boat. Do you remember that? Yeah, there was a 477 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 2: contest to name the boat. You remember that Brandon Body 478 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: mcbok face. Yes, body mcboat face was the winning. 479 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 3: Name. 480 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: They had a literally it was one of those naming contests, 481 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: and body mcboat face is what the boat was ultimately named. 482 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: So I look at the name Spirit and I breathed 483 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: a sigh of relief that, you know, somebody didn't name it, 484 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: you know, eagle mc, eagle head or whatever. I mean, 485 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 2: there was a little respect for Spirit the eagle it. 486 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: So the Friends of Big Bear Valley again, they've set 487 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 2: up this eagle nest cam and you can watch Jackie 488 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: in shadow and watch the Friends of Big Bear Valley's 489 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: eagle cam there. 490 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 7: But Mark, do you think that Jackie knows. 491 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: She has a sense that something's different. Yeah, that's a 492 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 2: really great question. That's one I've asked myself. Like, you know, 493 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: animals are incredibly intuitive and incredibly aware of their surroundings. 494 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: Completely. 495 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 2: I feel like she might now I haven't have you 496 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 2: seen the actual I mean, it's I'm sure it's a 497 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 2: completely unobtrusive camera, you know, like you maybe a one 498 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: of those those pen camera type things, you know, where 499 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: you literally just can't see. It's not like it's a 500 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: webcam camera, even though I understand it's on the web. 501 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's not a very obtrusive one. I might 502 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 2: be wrong with. 503 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, I'm watching. You know, Jackie is just you know, 504 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 7: she's just hanging, she's just looking around. She's you know, 505 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 7: doesn't seem to be upset. I mean, not that I 506 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 7: would know if she was. But I just wonder if she, 507 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 7: let's just say, for sure, the first egg is not viable, 508 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 7: we don't know yet about the. 509 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 3: Second that we don't. They're worried, they're anxious about them, 510 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 3: but they might be fine, might be fine. 511 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 7: I just wonder if she knows, okay, one of these 512 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 7: eggs it's not it's not gonna there's no eglet in there. 513 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 7: And I wonder, if let's just say all three of 514 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 7: them are not viable, would she just abandon the nest 515 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 7: knowing that or I don't know. 516 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 3: I don't know about that. 517 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 2: You're saying, but the fact, by virtue of the fact 518 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: that she's still there, you can kind of guess. 519 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: Oh, that's really cool. I hope you're right. 520 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm hoping. 521 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: What is the There's a theory in I want to say, 522 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: physical science about and never made me think of it 523 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: just now it's when I used to. 524 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 3: I can't think of the name of it anyway. 525 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: The theory is that by virtue of the fact that 526 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: you're observing something, you're changing the outcome. 527 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: And I forget what it's called. It's a very. 528 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: Basic theory and I used to know it, but slowly 529 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: as my brain is leaving myself out there. 530 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't remember it. 531 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: But anyway, somebody who knows it out there you can 532 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: send me an email the Mark Thompson Show at gmail 533 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: dot com. That's not this show. That's just a different email, ardess. 534 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: But I'd be curious to know. But that's what you're 535 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: getting at, Like, does she in her awareness, even modest 536 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: or you know, oblique awareness, that she's being watched, Does 537 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: that change her behavior. 538 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: In any way? Yeah? I wonder very very interesting. 539 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting too that our relationship with these 540 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: creatures changes, as we can see them. You know, all 541 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: of a sudden, when you have those cameras in various 542 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: wildlife environments and you see mothers interacting with their offspring, 543 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: you just have a different connection. 544 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 7: You're invested exactly. So many people, I mean right now, 545 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 7: more than twenty five thousand people are watching this live cam. 546 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really I've shared a lot of people's hearts, 547 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: which is why this is heartbreaking, you know, to know 548 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: that one won't come to terms. So this weekend we'll 549 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: be the end of viability for all of them. 550 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 3: So we'll watch that situation. 551 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 7: Mark Angel Martinez just sent me an email saying, the 552 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 7: observer effect. 553 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's another maybe that it isn't. No, it's not. 554 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 2: It's that's what it is. It probably should be called that, 555 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: but maybe that maybe that's what it is, the observer 556 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: effect in physics. Yeah, but I thought there was another 557 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: name for it. And what I'd like to do is 558 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: waste about twenty more minutes of radio time talking about it. 559 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: I think it's something we'll do with a cat or 560 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: is it Schrodinger's cat or like a cat? 561 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 7: Oh wow, I mean I could google it, but I'm 562 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 7: too late. 563 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it's like anyway, but in any case, 564 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: we wish her the best, and this weekend it seems 565 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: would be, you know, the time that we hope that 566 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: there is a you know, a viable offspring. So that's 567 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 2: the latest there. It's a John coblt Show. Sorry, I mean, 568 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: the news just came in and so many people are 569 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: connected to the story that we wanted to share the 570 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: fact that you know, sadly, this this particular egg, it's 571 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: not going to come to some viability. So John Cobelt Show, 572 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: Mark Thompson sitting on KFI AM six forty live everywhere 573 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. 574 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to the John coblt Show podcast. 575 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: You can always hear the show live on KFI AM 576 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 1: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 577 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.