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Speaker 1: Rookie tis the game with this first NFL touchdown from

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Speaker 3: Like the only time you can get a ticket for

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Speaker 2: It's right that set.

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Speaker 3: You've gotta be happy for this tab. You've gotta be

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Speaker 3: happy for this organization. They have homes more techniques with

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Speaker 4: The Detroit Lions start the twenty twenty three season in style,

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Speaker 4: And how about this. Dan Hans is here with Greg

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Speaker 4: running out the clock waving his arms, imploring fans who

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Speaker 4: to celebrate a Lions team they believe in. That is

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Speaker 2: I feel like anything is possible.

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Speaker 5: This twenty twenty three season couldn't open any better seeing that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's something we'll remember forever.

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Speaker 5: I'll remember that Week eighteen finished forever, and I know

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Speaker 5: What do they do the next'm on TV? They go

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Speaker 2: I will never forget that moment.

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Speaker 5: And we can get to all the particulars of how

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Speaker 2: We're too good.

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Speaker 6: I think you know, Greg, like I was thinking during

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Speaker 7: But this is sort of what I.

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Speaker 6: Have always wanted in football where I think that, you know,

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Speaker 7: So, I mean, the Chiefs.

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Speaker 6: They'll bounce back, But what we saw tonight from Detroit

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Speaker 6: I think that's the most hopeful thing for a Lions fan.

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Speaker 6: What they were good at last year. We saw that

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Speaker 4: That is, we were at a Counting Crows concert Mark

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Speaker 4: last for the Detroit Lions. And last year was fine.

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Speaker 4: Last year was a big growing season wake up call.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Tony, that was one of the worst games.

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Speaker 5: You said it on Twitter, Dan, that a wide receiver,

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Speaker 5: a couple of massive drops, a couple of miscommunications play

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Speaker 6: I think Kansas City will this is like, this will

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Speaker 7: And we've seen.

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Speaker 6: You're right, Greg that the Detroit defense in the secondary

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Speaker 6: They had that one drive before halftime where Mahomes had

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Speaker 5: Mahomes had to run because he didn't have a choice,

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Speaker 5: so it it's a great point. Mark Daniel Jeremiah original

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Speaker 5: their whole running game. That was a difference. Like neither

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Speaker 4: David Montgomery Jamier Gibbs won two punch And things I'll

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Speaker 4: this was a minimalized Chiefs team because of the injuries.

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Speaker 4: And I should have gotten out of the lock when

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Speaker 4: I made the lock.

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Speaker 4: A couple of things when I made that lock, I

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Speaker 4: Holdouts, these holdouts. You know there was reports right before

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Speaker 4: But like, the one thing that I think will hold

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Speaker 6: It was twenty one to twenty, and they Lions got

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Speaker 7: Is that as this as the game goes on?

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Speaker 7: We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 6: But Gibbs, to me, like from from what we saw

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Speaker 5: Right, I mean, they didn't get a good game from GoF.

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Speaker 5: and that fourth down that you mentioned. You're right, as

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Speaker 2: There's no one in front of him.

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Speaker 4: Knocking his big Yeah, drawback his game.

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Speaker 5: It's not in his mo and it got knocked down.

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Speaker 5: And he made a few really nice throws. He had

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Speaker 5: who you guys are right, I mean, his burst was

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Speaker 5: just crazy. Laporta showed up their rookie branch. Is a

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Speaker 5: so it sounds like he's okay. It's just they're a

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Speaker 5: don't know what's going on. He calls a fake punt

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Speaker 5: But for the most part, I love that he stayed aggressive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's talk about some of the coaching decisions, because

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Speaker 4: it's the tone setter. As they say all that fourth

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Speaker 4: turned that into an adr touchdown drive and that got

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Speaker 4: third and I believe fifteen or so, and then that

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Speaker 4: I was really surprised with two point thirty to play

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Speaker 4: pass incomplete. But maybe it wouldn't have mattered because maybe,

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Speaker 4: a day. No, no, no, there's living a little, Greg, and

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Speaker 4: there's being completely just a suicide mission when you have

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Speaker 4: That was a suicide mission. And as soon as that's

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Speaker 6: I did not have a problem with fourth and twenty

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Speaker 6: because just about four five, No, fourth and twenty five

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Speaker 6: had been a number of big, bigger passing plays by

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Speaker 6: Mahomes in this game, where it's like everything about them

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Speaker 6: tells me you don't give the ball back. If you're

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Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes, you go for fourth and twenty five. I'm

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Speaker 6: with you that it got perilous at that point, and

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Speaker 6: there's a sense of desperation which you don't really get

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Speaker 7: I think they realized they were in.

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Speaker 6: It was sort of their last gasp, and it was yep,

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Speaker 6: maybe you punt the ball away. But I mean with

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Speaker 6: first when they went for the fake punt. That drive

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Speaker 6: was what eight plus minutes. Because I was in I

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Speaker 6: was in my world, We're like, whoa this game. It's

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Speaker 6: like it's like five fifty five on the West Coast

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Speaker 6: It's like, I know that we'll get to a point

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Speaker 6: where like the third quarters an hour and forty seven

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Speaker 7: For some reason, it does.

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Speaker 6: But it's like they but their their ability to kind

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Speaker 6: I think might have led to that decision where it's like,

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Speaker 7: To hope the Mahomes does this.

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Speaker 6: But I'm with you that fourth and twenty five got

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't have any because of what you said.

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Speaker 5: They probably aren't gonna stop me either way, and they didn't.

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Speaker 5: They knew the run was coming.

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Speaker 4: They didn't stop him on the previous drive. Greg it

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Speaker 4: should be.

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Speaker 2: Said, not on a three and out though they needed.

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Speaker 4: They got him on fourth down, they got him off

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Speaker 4: they got the stop they needed, they only gave up first,

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Speaker 4: put him back on their side of the field. You

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Speaker 4: put ten in the box and you get stop and

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Speaker 4: give them Homes a real chance. It's it's kind of

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Speaker 4: beside the point though. I I don't want to get

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Speaker 4: it back to Tony too much longer. But it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Tony had a drop right in his hand that that

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Speaker 4: the fourth down stop, he is wide open.

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Speaker 2: That's why.

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Speaker 5: That's why you go for it, because you had you

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Speaker 5: and you think maybe you can do it one more play.

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Speaker 2: But there wasn't many of those plays either.

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Speaker 5: There weren't many plays that they missed, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean, Like they they were they were fighting up

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Speaker 5: hill and someone's got to take dan'sire here, and it

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Speaker 5: makes sense and Chiefs fansire, it makes sense for it

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Speaker 4: That was yeah, it was bad. It was bad.

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Speaker 5: That was brutal because I think you know you you

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Speaker 5: think you are the first person to ever lose a

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Speaker 5: in sole possession of first place.

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Speaker 2: They want to know, baby, you gotta live wild.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of ball game ahead of me. And

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm I'm the all time leader in the locks

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Speaker 4: Challenge or in the uh go get my lunch Challenge

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Speaker 4: for a reason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is bother me.

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Speaker 4: It's annoying, It's It is also, though, what I love

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Speaker 4: Really a good way to start the season. Not for me,

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Speaker 4: but whatever. It's early enough in the year where I

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Speaker 4: with my life. But like, that was a good game

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Speaker 4: like that. There's been some slogs in the Thursday Night

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Speaker 6: Can I like one thing that bugs me and I

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Speaker 6: know that, like if you're a PFF and like they

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Speaker 6: look at interceptions differently, But like that interception by Mame

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Speaker 6: that's like not quarterback related, like thank you Kadarius Tony,

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Speaker 6: but it's like a Patrick Mahomes interception.

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Speaker 7: But it's like, what's happening here?

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Speaker 4: That's a great call? What if it's Canarious Tony that

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Speaker 6: Well or at least something where it's like the turnover transferred.

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Speaker 6: It's like an error in baseball almost. It's like, how

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Speaker 4: Guess that's that's what they'll say, PFF and the like

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Speaker 7: For they do, but that's not gonna be that we

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Speaker 7: seem like giant nerds.

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Speaker 4: So like that's a positive graded throw by Mahomes who

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Speaker 4: put it right on the money and his receiver ghacked.

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Speaker 4: And it's to be fair to Tony by the way,

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Speaker 4: the previous game they played was in Super Bowl and

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Speaker 4: he was a badass and he made big plays, including

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Speaker 4: the huge punt return that basically set them up for glory.

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Speaker 4: So I hope, I hope he bounces back, but that's

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Speaker 4: gonna be I don't know what. The media how and

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Speaker 4: the fans seem to be overall a more kind lot

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Speaker 4: than maybe where I grew up or where we grew

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Speaker 4: up in the Northeast. But Tony, I would imagine we'll

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Speaker 4: get roasted in this game. That's a tough spotlight. Tough spotlight.

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Speaker 5: It is in the and they are they're nicer there,

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Speaker 5: but it's maybe training camp does matter because he was

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Speaker 5: injured the whole time. He basically didn't practice at all

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Speaker 5: for five or six weeks, and they kind of forced

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Speaker 5: them out there because they need as many weapons as

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Speaker 5: they can. There is something awkward about having seven you know,

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Speaker 5: receiver one bees or whatever they are three bees. I mean,

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Speaker 5: but you get Kelsey back most likely next week according

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Speaker 5: to the NBC broadcast, and you get Chris Jones back

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Speaker 5: at some point, and it will feel a little different.

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Speaker 5: But the rest of the NFC North like they're all

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Speaker 5: gonna have to play the Chiefs too, and we'll see

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Speaker 5: if any one of them beats them.

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Speaker 2: That that's one game up. The Lions probably get and.

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Speaker 4: We also get a little burned out on the NBC

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Speaker 4: cover of Jawan Taylor's deep sets in Early Moves. That

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Speaker 4: was like, it was a fair point, but I felt

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Speaker 4: like it was the only thing that we were like

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Speaker 4: getting in depth. The only thing that I liked less

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Speaker 4: was the completely wasted, wired up Hutchinson family. Just no pop,

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Speaker 4: no heat, nothing worth you don't you don't need to

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Speaker 4: go to them if it's not singing, no more than once.

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Speaker 5: Is it weird that to have the dad call the

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Speaker 5: sun hutch I don't know what a game though, Aiden Hutchinson,

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Speaker 5: what a game? I mean, he was one of the

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Speaker 5: best players on the field. We very we should note

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Speaker 5: that was a great job. I do want to point

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Speaker 5: out just one last point of order before you know,

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Speaker 5: if we're if we're wrapping up here, because you know

481
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Speaker 5: this team, the Lions team, they stole our heart last year,

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Speaker 5: they had our heart, and I've been saying all off season,

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Speaker 5: you know, why not run it back right off the top?

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Speaker 5: I said that, And at first, how I remember it?

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Speaker 5: You guys were like, oh man, maybe maybe maybe it

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Speaker 5: was that night they won the game, that was probably it.

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Speaker 5: We were all in our feels and then quickly you

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Speaker 5: guys just stopped it cold as a as a possibility. Randy,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you got the song back there

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Speaker 5: right now, but I don't think it's ever too late

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Speaker 5: to change our minds and open our hearts back up

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Speaker 5: to the Detroit Lions have the team of the Around

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Speaker 5: the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 2: This isn't an by anyone. We're playing this just for

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Speaker 2: all good times. Come on, bring him back, Danny, bring

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Speaker 2: him back.

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Speaker 4: This is the sometimes, Greg, how do I put this?

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Speaker 2: I'm annoying.

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Speaker 4: I love you, but sometimes a lighter touch would be

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Speaker 4: more effective. And I feel like you're you're coming so hard.

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Speaker 4: It's like the guy that likes the girl, but like

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Speaker 4: he's being so aggressively forward about it that he's almost

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Speaker 4: smothering her, and it's it's making her push him away,

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Speaker 4: even though he's a good guy and maybe a catch.

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Speaker 4: I love I love those lines. Last year, you know,

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Speaker 4: I team in a lot of ways, Greggy. I was

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Speaker 4: on the I was on the bandwagon first covering him

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Speaker 4: on Hard Knocks with Colleen and I. I I'm open

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Speaker 4: to it. You know what I'd like to see. Let's

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Speaker 4: see what happens against the Seahawks next week. I'm open

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Speaker 4: to it. I'm not shutting it down, Greg, Okay, that's

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Speaker 4: all I'm open.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think your analgae is really well put and can

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Speaker 5: explain you know, a lot of my college struggles with women,

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Speaker 5: but I.

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Speaker 6: Think in this case, we're the girl that you're smothering,

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Speaker 6: where it's like I want to be part of this relationship,

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Speaker 6: but like you're absorbing all the energy in the room

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Speaker 6: around it, where it's like I actually do like the Lions.

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Speaker 6: And I was walking around my place tonight being like,

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Speaker 6: what a fun, interesting, fascinating team to do what they

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Speaker 6: went and did tonight. But I was like, but Greg

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Speaker 6: is going to be so gregory gregarious about it that

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Speaker 6: like there's no room for Mark two.

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Speaker 5: I'll dial it down, and we're lucky here even if

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Speaker 5: they don't become the team. We still have Dan Campbell

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Speaker 5: and these Lions in our lives and they are a

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Speaker 5: big value add to the NFL. But I'll keep both

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Speaker 5: of what you said in mind and look for.

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Speaker 2: A path forward.

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Speaker 4: And while I am keeping my mind open, it's more

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Speaker 4: just in general, it's like, is there a team of

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Speaker 4: around the NFL out there for twenty twenty three because

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Speaker 4: you never force it. But you know, there could be

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Speaker 4: a team over the next you know, a couple of weeks. Uh,

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Speaker 4: this month really is where it's it's nomination season that

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Speaker 4: we all collectively kind of gravitate toward. Maybe the Lions.

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Speaker 6: Do the Lions make more sense as a repeat offering

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Speaker 6: than any organization that we've run into in a long time.

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Speaker 6: So open minds and like Jess, but Greg, just remember

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Speaker 6: it's like, if we're going to go on this journey,

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Speaker 6: it's not you tugging Dan and I on you know,

544
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Speaker 6: studded leashes through a field. It's like we walk on

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Speaker 6: the journey together.

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Speaker 5: I mean that sounds like something you you might like there, Mark.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but not with not not with you, I would.

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Speaker 4: In the place. Wait, what do you what are you

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Speaker 4: precious boys going to do in Week three when it's

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Speaker 4: the Lions v. Falcons?

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's fine, that could be a team.

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Speaker 7: Yeahs teams to this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, Greg, if the Lions spank Gino next week and

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Speaker 4: then kick the hell out of your beloved Falcons, I

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Speaker 4: am in so if they can start three and oh

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Speaker 4: with those wins with those dubs you got my vote. No,

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Speaker 4: I'll say it right now. You got my vote, all right,

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Speaker 4: but they got to do that. Anything less than that,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna because I don't. I don't really like

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Speaker 4: running it back. I like the idea of it being

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Speaker 4: one and done. The sequel is never as good as

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Speaker 4: the original. Well, Godfather Too is probably better than the original.

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Speaker 4: There you go, notably, but that's an outlier.

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Speaker 7: Richer deeper.

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Speaker 5: This is kind of a sequel. Getting back on the

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Speaker 5: horn with you guys on Thursday nights. It's been been

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Speaker 5: a couple of years since we did this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this was a big, big day for and then

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Speaker 4: we're gonna it's gonna be part of our rotation. We

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Speaker 4: did three shows today, so we had the preview episode

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Speaker 4: of all the week one games that were not Island

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Speaker 4: games that is available now for you obviously, this episode,

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Speaker 4: which will will have a Thursday night recap every week,

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Speaker 4: and the NFL Plus premiere of Around the NFL and

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Speaker 4: NFL Plus that is available probably by the time you

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Speaker 4: hear this as well, So those of you with an

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Speaker 4: NFL Plus subscription or international fans that have Bazon go

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Speaker 4: check that out. We had fun. That was good. I

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Speaker 4: really enjoyed our NFL Plus premiere where we looked in

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Speaker 4: the mirror.

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Speaker 5: I did as well. I had the game, I had

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Speaker 5: it on. I had like three screens going. I got

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Speaker 5: the US open, I got one screen of the game

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Speaker 5: on the big one and then the other one. There

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Speaker 5: was a lot going on, but one of them's on

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Speaker 5: the NFL Plus game. It's all happening.

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Speaker 6: So like, you know, our employer, if you're if you're

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Speaker 6: anyone attached to like the hierarchy above us that you

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Speaker 6: know tracks what work we do.

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Speaker 7: We are working hard. I just please know that understand proof.

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Speaker 4: It's proof and the you know, the trade off for

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Speaker 4: me is like every time I see Eric ed Holmes

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Speaker 4: name on the scroll for NFL Network and I think, wow,

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Speaker 4: he just had to write power rankings for eight more hours,

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Speaker 4: I think to myself, I like what I'm doing now,

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Speaker 4: everybody wins?

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Speaker 7: Very fair?

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you everybody for following everything we do. Sincerely,

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Speaker 4: that's pretty cool. You've given us a great life. All

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Speaker 4: right until Sunday the Flagship Show. Heed the call