Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Bills by the Numbers, where
Speaker 1: we let the stats tell you where the Bills are
Speaker 1: at coming up, What roles must be solidified on Buffalo's
Speaker 1: new defense for you to feel comfortable. Which position competitions
Speaker 1: could be the fiercest on d And we'll have our
Speaker 1: one burning question We've got to get moving. Players are
Speaker 1: back on the field. Glad to have you along with
Speaker 1: us here on Bills by the Numbers. He is Bill's
Speaker 1: Wall of famous Steve Tasker on Bills play by playmak
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, and our agenda begins with the biggest area
Speaker 1: of interest concerning the Bills this offseason, their defense. Jim
Speaker 1: Leonard is Buffalo's new defensive coordinator and with him comes
Speaker 1: a brand new defensive scheme with the unit moving to
Speaker 1: a three to four system. First order of business is
Speaker 1: finding the fits for the starting and I would think
Speaker 1: the defensive line, at least in pencil is the following
Speaker 1: left to right, counting the outside linebackers Bradley Chubb, Ed
Speaker 1: Oliver Dion Walker, TJ. Sanders, Greg Russo, how do we
Speaker 1: feel about that group?
Speaker 2: Not too bad? I mean, Rousseau and Chubb have got
Speaker 2: some chops you and I both feel I think we
Speaker 2: talked about on the radio show a little bit the
Speaker 2: Daily Show. I think Solomon, Javon Solomon is a better
Speaker 2: fit in a three to four outside linebacker than he
Speaker 2: was his a defensive end stand up or with his
Speaker 2: hand on the ground.
Speaker 3: Probably a rotational piece.
Speaker 2: He's a rotational piece. I think the athletes they have,
Speaker 2: in some respects, some of them are gonna be better
Speaker 2: fitted for Jim Leonard's defense. Rousseau's the one that kind
Speaker 2: of surprised me. They're right out of the gate that
Speaker 2: said he's going to have his hand off the ground
Speaker 2: and he's going to be standing as an outside linebacker.
Speaker 2: Moved his number, changed his number. That says a lot.
Speaker 2: I think they feel really good. In fact, I think
Speaker 2: this coaching staff on the defensive side is like, Okay,
Speaker 2: they feel like they're going to be able to do
Speaker 2: some things with these guys, and they like them despite
Speaker 2: having the fact that you know they drafted six more.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think that.
Speaker 1: You can probably Lockstock and Barrel, Rousseau, and Chubb on
Speaker 1: the on the edges to start. Dion Walker, I think
Speaker 1: is a lock because you need a big player next
Speaker 1: to Ed Oliver especially in this scheme. I think it's
Speaker 1: that other spot, that other defensive end spot that I
Speaker 1: mean I just penciled in TJ. Sanders, right, It could
Speaker 1: be Landon Jackson, it could be one of the rookies,
Speaker 1: Like you don't know who that player is. I think
Speaker 1: that is a wide open role to be filled. And
Speaker 1: we know the work that Landon Jackson did in this
Speaker 1: offseason putting on twenty pounds of lean mussel mass, because
Speaker 1: in the four to three system he was going to
Speaker 1: be a hand on the ground defensive end edge rusher.
Speaker 1: Now he's kicking inside to play that you know, five
Speaker 1: technique or four I if you will. And we've seen
Speaker 1: him in the building and he looks like a different
Speaker 1: human being. He's like two hundred and eighty five pounds
Speaker 1: after being two sixty seven last year. So it's a
Speaker 1: dramatic transformation. And I wonder how much that helps him
Speaker 1: compete for one of those roles on the defensive line
Speaker 1: because we've got a lot of young players in the
Speaker 1: mix there. Inside linebacker is where we anticipate there being
Speaker 1: a competition for the right to play alongside Mike linebacker
Speaker 1: Torel Bernard. How realistic is it? That Dorian Williams is
Speaker 1: pushed by a player with a very similar skill set
Speaker 1: in rookie Caleb Elarms or very realistic.
Speaker 2: Dorian has been a good player, and he's he's flashed,
Speaker 2: no question about it. He's been a part of the roster.
Speaker 2: He's almost never been a leading tackler for this team
Speaker 2: in one of his three seasons. He's never He's never
Speaker 2: not on the field for the team in some way,
Speaker 2: shape or form, whether it be special teams, wherever he
Speaker 2: gets a game day jersey. But he's never been the
Speaker 2: centerpiece of the defense. He's never been a guy that
Speaker 2: he's got to play for us, he's going to play
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of the defensive snaps or even fifty
Speaker 2: percent of the defensive snaps. I think his his role
Speaker 2: has been limited for different reasons, for whatever reason, and
Speaker 2: whenever that's the case for any player in the league,
Speaker 2: it's up for grabs unless you're the guy, unless you've
Speaker 2: got a green dot on your helmet, or you know
Speaker 2: you're a guy that's playing a lions share of the snaps. Now,
Speaker 2: even in even in the years past, when they've rotated
Speaker 2: all four defensive linemen through and they've you know they've
Speaker 2: found combinations that worked. We don't know that that's going
Speaker 2: to happen, right.
Speaker 3: Or at least not to the degree that it has
Speaker 3: been happening.
Speaker 2: And even if they do, it's going to be three
Speaker 2: guys rotating, not four. It'll be the defensive and the
Speaker 2: nose guard. And you've got some versatility because and this
Speaker 2: is one of the things about this three four concept
Speaker 2: that we don't know yet. A guy like Michael Hoyt
Speaker 2: can line up anywhere at any of the four linebacker spots.
Speaker 2: That's the kind of athlete he is. Same thing with
Speaker 2: Javon Solomon. Now, certainly he's not going to be as
Speaker 2: experienced playing inside a linebacker off the ball as he
Speaker 2: has been on the edge, right, But the athleticism's there.
Speaker 2: And if you get into these games where they start
Speaker 2: tinkering with it and getting deeper and deeper into the
Speaker 2: season and they show some stuff and prove some stuff,
Speaker 2: and they want to show some things to get other
Speaker 2: teams to prepare for you got guys who can do that.
Speaker 2: Dorian Williams is in that. I have a hard time
Speaker 2: seeing him on the edge, but you could certainly do that.
Speaker 2: And it's the same thing with kleb e. Larms or
Speaker 2: their athleticism. Those four linebackers aside from the responsibilities, man,
Speaker 2: they're the same kind of athletic build. The inside guys
Speaker 2: I don't have to be quite as big as the
Speaker 2: outside but there you have it. You can still switch
Speaker 2: them around.
Speaker 1: That was gonna be my I think what makes this
Speaker 1: potential position competition so intriguing is Dorian Williams and Caleb
Speaker 1: el arms Or have similar skill set profiles. Both are
Speaker 1: extremely athletic players who can run and you need that
Speaker 1: on the quote unquote week inside linebacker position guy that
Speaker 1: can cover a little more round and both of those
Speaker 1: players can do that. So I'm to me it's apples
Speaker 1: and apples in that competition. It's not apples and oranges.
Speaker 1: And so it's really going to come down to who
Speaker 1: is quickest on the uptake in terms of the assignments
Speaker 1: and reading their keys in this new system, and whoever
Speaker 1: is better at that and proves to be the more
Speaker 1: consistent player in sniffing out offensive plays, making plays on
Speaker 1: the ball, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I think
Speaker 1: is going to get the upper hand here through the
Speaker 1: course of training camp at outside corner. Christian Benford's name
Speaker 1: is in penn at one spot. And then I think
Speaker 1: it's reasonable to assume that Max Harriston is going to
Speaker 1: be pushed by Davison Igbinosan. So assess for me your
Speaker 1: anticipat anticipation of that competition.
Speaker 2: Well, Igbinosen is the corner that this defensive staff had
Speaker 2: a voice in choosing. I'm not saying they don't like Max,
Speaker 2: but they're different. Max and Igbinosen are different guys. Igbinosin's
Speaker 2: built a little bit more like Benford, a little bigger,
Speaker 2: little longer, that kind of thing. Max Harrison is an athlete,
Speaker 2: and I mean he can scoot. We know that, so
Speaker 2: that may have that may be something that tilts the
Speaker 2: field a little bit more in Igbinosen's favor in that
Speaker 2: he's the exact kind of athlete they want out there.
Speaker 2: You would think having this defensive staff in the room
Speaker 2: when they picked him, that doesn't mean they don't like Max,
Speaker 2: but it does mean that What does mean they like
Speaker 2: igb You like, Yeah, they prove they picked him, and
Speaker 2: they picked the trade it up to pick that and
Speaker 2: they picked him number two, right their second pick of
Speaker 2: the draft. That's you know that's big. That's, you know,
Speaker 2: thirtieth pick of the second He's the thirtieth pick of
Speaker 2: the second round sixty two overall. Yeah, they like the guy,
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think there is gonna be some competition there.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be good for both those guys.
Speaker 2: I think they're both gonna have a spot on the roster.
Speaker 2: I think it also opens up the possibility for an
Speaker 2: athlete like Max to move down inside with some space
Speaker 2: and a two way go for a slot receiver because
Speaker 2: when you're on the outside, the sideline's there to help
Speaker 2: an outside corner and he can use it to his advantage.
Speaker 2: Inside there's a two way go for that the receiver
Speaker 2: that you need athleticism and absolute twitchy speed to hang
Speaker 2: in there with. Tarren Johnson was very good at it,
Speaker 2: and I think Max has got that kind of athleticism.
Speaker 2: It'll take some reps because he's an outside corner, but
Speaker 2: he's got that kind of athletic So that to me,
Speaker 2: that competition in a corner. They certainly at the way
Speaker 2: the season has ended for them, they want to make
Speaker 2: sure they've got enough corners to go out there and
Speaker 2: line up because they didn't last year.
Speaker 1: At the end, I think in stark contrast to the
Speaker 1: inside linebacker competition that we anticipate to be between Dori
Speaker 1: and Williams and Klebb E Larms or could be other candidates,
Speaker 1: those two are very similar. Hairston and Igb play very
Speaker 1: different styles of football. Right. Harston is the pure athlete,
Speaker 1: runs like a deer, can run with anybody out there
Speaker 1: at the receiver position, and makes plays on the ball.
Speaker 1: Igb is in your face pressman, plays the body almost
Speaker 1: more than the ball, and clearly to your point, this
Speaker 1: defensive staff liked him, recommended him to their personnel department,
Speaker 1: and then they ultimately trade up and pick him because
Speaker 1: I think they believe he embodies the playing style they
Speaker 1: want on their side of the ball.
Speaker 3: Now, how does.
Speaker 1: That all come out in the wash in terms of
Speaker 1: positions filled, We'll have to see. But I think that's
Speaker 1: a competition that is going to be a lot fiercer
Speaker 1: than some might be anticipating going into training camp. I
Speaker 1: think we believe that CJ. Gardner Johnson is the starting
Speaker 1: safety opposite Cole Bishop, but there is other talent at
Speaker 1: the position who do you believe most makes it a competition?
Speaker 1: Geno Stone Jalen Kilgore or Damar Hamlin Well.
Speaker 2: I think it's Geno Stone out of the gate because
Speaker 2: he's going to have some familiarity with playing in the NFL.
Speaker 2: The concepts are going to come better to him because
Speaker 2: he's a veteran guy. Jalen Kilgore has the athleticism and
Speaker 2: he has the ability to do a physical but we
Speaker 2: haven't seen it. Yeah, you don't know. And Damar. I
Speaker 2: think Damar is probably odd man out. Could be Gino Stone,
Speaker 2: Jalen Kilgore, and CJ. Gardner Johnson. I think that's where
Speaker 2: the competition is. And you can bet that all of
Speaker 2: those guys are gonna have a say.
Speaker 1: And who's on the squad, Yeah, kill Gore to me
Speaker 1: is the superior physical specimen obviously.
Speaker 3: CJ.
Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson. Once again, we go back to the physical,
Speaker 1: intimidating approach that Jim Leonard wants this defense to take.
Speaker 3: CJ.
Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson has a track record of that. People on
Speaker 1: offense in the middle of the field better have their
Speaker 1: head on a swivel when CJ. Gardner Johnson is on
Speaker 1: the field because he will deliver a blow. So I
Speaker 1: think that appeals to this defensive staff. This guy has
Speaker 1: played in multiple playoff games. He's got a proven tray,
Speaker 1: So I think he's the odds on favorite to be
Speaker 1: Cole Bishop's partner at the safety position. But I think
Speaker 1: if Kilgore can prove to be a quick study, his
Speaker 1: physical skill set is the kind of presents the kind
Speaker 1: of ability where a defensive staff will say, if we
Speaker 1: want our best eleven on the field, he's got to
Speaker 1: be one of them, even if it's just some of
Speaker 1: the time. He might still be learning on the job.
Speaker 1: And I could foresee a situation where the defensive staff says, look,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have it all figured out yet, but let's
Speaker 1: have a package here. When we go to three safety,
Speaker 1: Look he's on the field.
Speaker 2: And even so when he in the beginning, if they
Speaker 2: want him on the field, they will put him on
Speaker 2: the field when they've got a shorter menu, a defensive
Speaker 2: scheme and calls. It'll put him into situationals where they
Speaker 2: know what they're gonna get and so he doesn't have
Speaker 2: to he's not gonna get caught unawares and something he
Speaker 2: doesn't expect. Right, He's got it. And it's like every
Speaker 2: young player you start with a small menu of stuff.
Speaker 2: You let him master that, then you start to expand
Speaker 2: it a little bit, a little bit and a little bit,
Speaker 2: and then when you need it, they've got the full
Speaker 2: repertoire of moves. You're not gonna have that in the beginning.
Speaker 2: But certainly, certainly you're right. He's got the Kilgore's got
Speaker 2: the athleticism they're looking for. While CJ. Chauncey Gardner or
Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson, I'm sorry that guy brings some tude, he
Speaker 2: brings some attitude, and.
Speaker 3: It could be a veteran presence.
Speaker 2: Ben and I have talked a lot about one thing
Speaker 2: this defense has missed in the last you know, half
Speaker 2: a decade is some grit an edge. They don't have
Speaker 2: any anger and any aggression on the field, or at
Speaker 2: least don't have it often enough, and it shows. It
Speaker 2: shows I think they'd get some benefit from a guy
Speaker 2: like Gardner Johnson.
Speaker 1: Finally, the most intense competition could very well be at
Speaker 1: Nickel corner, which is an open position after Tarren Johnson
Speaker 1: was traded to Las Vegas this offseason. De Alford, a
Speaker 1: free agent signee, and Jordan Hancock, second year player who
Speaker 1: was a fifth round pick out of Ohio State last year.
Speaker 1: Are likely the prime candidates. There could be others, but
Speaker 1: what are your expectations there?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that nickeol is going to be
Speaker 2: as as important as it was under the McDermott defense
Speaker 2: when they're in the four to three, okay, because their
Speaker 2: philosophy was to leave the same eleven guys on the
Speaker 2: field all the time as much as they could. Now
Speaker 2: they'd rotate the defensive line, but the secondary was on
Speaker 2: the field and they didn't move. They stayed in nickel.
Speaker 2: They didn't go to sub packages. They stayed in one
Speaker 2: pack as much as possible short yardage maybe in goal line,
Speaker 2: of course, but they remember there were times when then
Speaker 2: they played nickel ninety percent of the time or a
Speaker 2: lot of it. And I don't know that that's going
Speaker 2: to be the case. So this nickel back, if he's
Speaker 2: really good, yeah, they're gonna try and get him on
Speaker 2: the field. But I don't think there's an urgency to like,
Speaker 2: we've got to play this. Don't forget. Even under McDermott,
Speaker 2: they went to because that was their best eleven. They
Speaker 2: were the most effective, yeah play in that nickel, and
Speaker 2: teams felt like they could run against five dbs and
Speaker 2: six heavies, Well, they couldn't get it done because tarn
Speaker 2: was feisty and competitive. This best eleven for this de
Speaker 2: Bill's defense might not include a fifth dB perhaps, So
Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna need a nickel as vitally. Now.
Speaker 2: They're gonna need one, absolutely, but they're not gonna need
Speaker 2: one as Violet and won't be as huge a part
Speaker 2: of it now. Having said that, I have always thought,
Speaker 2: like with the wide receivers on the other side, when
Speaker 2: they're in the slot and you get a nickel down
Speaker 2: in the slot, it's a special kind of athlete. We
Speaker 2: just talked about Max Harriston. But one of the things
Speaker 2: we talked about last year when Jordan Hancock was drafted,
Speaker 2: how versatile an athlete he was safety corner and he's
Speaker 2: a little bigger. So all of that being said, d
Speaker 2: Alford has experienced doing it. I mean, they like what
Speaker 2: they saw and don't forget, and once again they went
Speaker 2: out and picked him. They went out and signed him.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: So that was a short list of guys that they
Speaker 2: were gonna get and he was one of them. So
Speaker 2: I think those guys Hancock and Alford are the guys
Speaker 2: you in, the club leaders in the clubhouse. But I
Speaker 2: would not be surprised if once they start taking live
Speaker 2: reps and get a load of some of the athletes
Speaker 2: on this field, like Max Harriston, that they don't give
Speaker 2: him a shot at it. So I'm yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I think that is a competition between Alford and Hancock
Speaker 2: at the moment, maybe Harriston and down the line if
Speaker 2: they want to do that. But I don't think it's
Speaker 2: as vital as it has been in the past. I
Speaker 2: don't think it'll play as big a role as it has.
Speaker 2: Maybe it will, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I see Alford as your veteran president security blanket at
Speaker 1: the position. I'm not saying he's in case of emergency
Speaker 1: break lass. I think he could very well win the role.
Speaker 1: But I guess what I'm saying is he is your
Speaker 1: high floor player because you know he's capable. You've seen
Speaker 1: it on tape in NFL games. So he's a guy
Speaker 1: that at least you feel comfortable putting out there, and
Speaker 1: then it's on Jordan Hancock or whoever else to outperform
Speaker 1: him or demonstrate that you haven't even higher ceiling than
Speaker 1: said veteran player. Now, that might be a lot for
Speaker 1: Hancock to pull off in one offseason and a training camp,
Speaker 1: knowing in his rookie year he probably got more reps
Speaker 1: at safety than he did at Nickel corner. So even
Speaker 1: though he was listed as a dual role player last year,
Speaker 1: more of his reps came at safety than they did
Speaker 1: at nickel. And now he's shifting back there and he's
Speaker 1: in a different system. So how quick can he master
Speaker 1: all those responsibilities for that job and can it exceed
Speaker 1: the level of experience and consistency that Alford brings to
Speaker 1: the table.
Speaker 3: I'm not so sure. We'll have to see.
Speaker 2: It's it's a level playing field. Everybody's learned it for
Speaker 2: the first time, right, except for what whoever's came from
Speaker 2: Denver with Leonard, I mean if anybody did right, I
Speaker 2: mean right, so they got to learn it. It's a
Speaker 2: level playing field. Like Hancock gets no help from the
Speaker 2: year he put in last year in another system, except
Speaker 2: for the he gets the reps of playing actually playing
Speaker 2: when he did. So. Yeah, I think because of the
Speaker 2: philosophy switch and the system switch, they're all starting from
Speaker 2: ground zero trying to learn this thing from from the
Speaker 2: studs up.
Speaker 3: We pivot now.
Speaker 1: To the numbers game, where Steve will be quizzed on
Speaker 1: player jersey numbers because several of them have changed.
Speaker 3: From last year. So let's do it.
Speaker 1: Question Number one, rookie fourth three round pick Jude Bowery
Speaker 1: is wearing jersey number seventy four in his first year
Speaker 1: with the Bills. Who wore jersey number seventy four for
Speaker 1: Buffalo last season. Vandermark correct, Ryan, Vandermark, Very well done, Steve.
Speaker 1: Question Number two, free agent signee CJ. Gardner Johnson is
Speaker 1: wearing number twenty two in his first season for the Bills.
Speaker 1: Who wore that number last year for Buffalo?
Speaker 2: Twenty two?
Speaker 3: Nobody, somebody did wear it. Otherwise I probably wouldn't have
Speaker 3: asked the question.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a trick question number twenty two.
Speaker 2: Come on, twenty two. Oh No, it wasn't running back.
Speaker 3: It wasn't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't wasn't running back.
Speaker 3: Take a stab at it, all right.
Speaker 2: I'll say, I'll say, uh Man, wasn't Ty Johnson. It was.
Speaker 2: It was the other running back theyhead, Frank gor Junior.
Speaker 3: Now I don't know you're on the right track, Steve.
Speaker 1: It was Ray Davis, Ray did Ray Ward twenty two
Speaker 1: last year?
Speaker 2: I did not, I did, I didn't. He got me.
Speaker 3: Question number three.
Speaker 1: Dj Moore is wearing jersey number two for the Bills
Speaker 1: after he was acquired via trade.
Speaker 3: Who last wore jersey number two for Buffalo?
Speaker 2: I thought Tyler Bass was number two.
Speaker 3: I'll give it to you.
Speaker 1: It was Tyler Bass, which was harder than most because
Speaker 1: you didn't see him at all last year wearing that
Speaker 1: number two every day.
Speaker 3: He changed, well, he kind of had to. He gave
Speaker 3: Dj Moore number two, which.
Speaker 1: Brings us to question number four. Tyler Bass, Ray Davis,
Speaker 1: and Greg Russo are all wearing new jersey numbers for
Speaker 1: the Bills this season. Can you name two of their
Speaker 1: three new jersey numbers? Russo's fifteen, that is correct.
Speaker 2: I don't know who Bassie. Who's the other third number?
Speaker 2: Ray Davis, Ray Davis is wearing number single digit eight nine,
Speaker 2: No sevens and it was a single digit and I
Speaker 2: got to write them.
Speaker 1: And Tyler Bass is wearing number sixteen sixteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe Montana, Okay, we'll go with that. All right.
Speaker 3: That is the numbers game. We thought we'd have a
Speaker 3: little jersey fun with you.
Speaker 1: And also educate, educate our listeners because there's gonna be
Speaker 1: guys running around with different numbers that they're used to seeing,
Speaker 1: but not with those numbers on their back. So it'll
Speaker 1: be an exercise in refamiliarizing yourself with some players.
Speaker 2: I didn't do two.
Speaker 3: No, you did pretty good there too.
Speaker 1: Bad Time Now for our one burning question, what new
Speaker 1: player on defense do you believe will deliver the most
Speaker 1: signal magnificant impact this coming season?
Speaker 2: New player, I'm gonna say Chubb.
Speaker 3: Chubb.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's gonna. I think he's gonna turn
Speaker 2: it up a notch. I think I think he's gonna
Speaker 2: respond to the culture. I think he's going to respond
Speaker 2: to the I think he's gonna be rejuvenated a little bit.
Speaker 2: I think they'll gload manage him right the right way.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna like the way this feels in
Speaker 2: this city, the new stadium. I think that's going to
Speaker 2: give him some juice that he's had, hasn't had maybe
Speaker 2: for a handful of years. Although he's a really good player. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna I think he's gonna show up.
Speaker 3: I like that pick. I am going to go with
Speaker 3: c J. Gardner Johnson.
Speaker 1: I think he is the embodiment of the way and
Speaker 1: the attitude that the Bills want to play with on
Speaker 1: defense under Jim Leonard, and I think it comes naturally
Speaker 1: to him. I think he likes playing with a chip
Speaker 1: on his shoulder and to intimidate the opposition. And I
Speaker 1: think that's going to spider web out to the other
Speaker 1: players on defense with him kind of leading that charge, if.
Speaker 2: You will, I agree, it's hard to articulate why emotion
Speaker 2: is such a part of the league, and it is
Speaker 2: it always has been, and back in the seventies, late seventies,
Speaker 2: early eighties, and even through my career, you needed to
Speaker 2: dredge up some really hostile emotion to play the game.
Speaker 2: And a lot of guys struggle with that. Is you
Speaker 2: got a bunch of a team. It's the consummate team game,
Speaker 2: and you've got to do it together. And when you
Speaker 2: know you're with those guys who really buckle it up
Speaker 2: and they're ready to fist fight, you know the usher,
Speaker 2: you know who cares right, they'll fist fight the guy
Speaker 2: selling popcorn if they have to. They don't care. It
Speaker 2: elevates your ability to say, yeah, okay, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's jump into this fight. I say this
Speaker 2: to a lot of moms. I don't want to get
Speaker 2: off on a tangent here, but I say this to
Speaker 2: a lot of moms who back ten years ago orever,
Speaker 2: when people were like, I don't know if I want
Speaker 2: my son to play football or listen, it's worth it
Speaker 2: when you're I'm telling you, I was on one of
Speaker 2: the best teams in the NFL for a stretch, and
Speaker 2: they were the hottest thing on wheels. But when you're
Speaker 2: down there on the field and you're stretching, get warm,
Speaker 2: warming up, and the other team comes out and they're
Speaker 2: down there warming up in their end. Even as you're
Speaker 2: an eight year old kid, it's the exact same as
Speaker 2: thirty year old pro football player. Those guys down there
Speaker 2: are like, they're scary. You don't know. Those guys you
Speaker 2: don't know. You don't know. They look big, they look strong,
Speaker 2: they look athletic. Man, I don't know. And as an
Speaker 2: eight year old kid, that's scary. But when you look around,
Speaker 2: you got your friends with you, it's like, well, we're
Speaker 2: going to take them on anyway.
Speaker 1: It's especially if you've got a guy that says I
Speaker 1: don't care how big they are, ye kicking their dairy air.
Speaker 3: That's all over this view.
Speaker 2: You need some you need one of your friends, one
Speaker 2: of your buddies, to gay come on, let's go you Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: It's important. Even at the highest level of this sport,
Speaker 2: your emotions play a role, a big, important role in
Speaker 2: how well you attack the day and go in and compete.
Speaker 2: It's an important part of being a pro athlete. It's
Speaker 2: one of the It's one of the things that teaches
Speaker 2: young men courage. You gotta do it, whether it's gonna
Speaker 2: be fun or not, whether it's gonna hurt or not.
Speaker 2: You do it anyway because you've got guys and people,
Speaker 2: people you love and respect who depend on you. C. J.
Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson. It could be one of those fifths that bill.
Speaker 1: Our closing figure deals with the roster turnover from the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five campaign. We often hear about how NFL
Speaker 1: rosters turnover twenty five to thirty percent on average from
Speaker 1: one year to the next, but how much has changed
Speaker 1: for the Bills. Well, the only off season roster to
Speaker 1: go off of at this time is the ninety one
Speaker 1: player roster that they currently have with the International Pathway
Speaker 1: player Travis Clayton. Allowing for one extra player. The Bills
Speaker 1: have fifty one new players on their ninety one player
Speaker 1: offseason roster, good for a fifty six percent roster turnover
Speaker 1: from last year.
Speaker 3: At this time.
Speaker 1: That is a fat number for roster turnover from one
Speaker 1: year to the next, but it is part of the
Speaker 1: influx of youth that GM Brandon Bean talked about, including
Speaker 1: twelve defensive players over the last two draft classes.
Speaker 3: That'll do it for this edition.
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Speaker 1: Everybody, no