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We may 61 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: call you out and ask you to speak. And again, 62 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: know that everything that we are doing is out of 63 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: love and respect for our overall listening experience. All right, 64 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: so are we ready to dive in? I see some 65 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: hearts For those who are joining us live, I see 66 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: some hearts in the chat. So that says to me 67 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: that we are ready to dive in our quote of 68 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: the day. So our quote of the day says, I 69 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: cannot control the wind or change the direction of the wind, 70 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: but I can always adjust my sales to reach my destination. 71 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: Let me read that one. 72 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: More time to help ground us into this conversation. I 73 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: cannot control or change the direction of the wind, but 74 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: I can always adjust my sales to reach my destination. 75 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: All right, so today we're talking about managing anxiety in 76 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: the midst of COVID nineteen. How does that quote sit 77 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: with you considering our topic of conversation. 78 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like this quote here is it's just 79 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: been one of those I don't know, a girl, I 80 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: don't know. I cannot believe that we're still in the 81 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: midst of this, like this is still happening. I remember 82 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: back in what was it like February of twenty twenty. 83 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: I think that was the last time I took a fight. 84 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: Possibly it may have been a little after that, but 85 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: when we right before COVID hit and we had plans 86 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: for the summer and we're like, oh, yeah, we're gonna 87 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: do this. We're gonna do that we're going to travel 88 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: out to travel last year and go on vacation, and 89 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: I just feel like this quote really sums up really 90 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: the best perspective to have in the midst of what 91 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: we're what we're faced with right now, because it really 92 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: is unpredictable. I kind of feel like in some ways 93 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty went by fast and also kind of slow 94 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: at the same time. But the fact that we're already 95 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: in August of twenty twenty one is bizarre because this 96 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: year it feels like it's almost over, and so I 97 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: don't know, it just for me means that we really 98 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: need to focus on what we can control because there's 99 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: so much this outside of our control. And yes, that's 100 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: always the case with life, but I think that COVID 101 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: nineteen really taught us that, oh, yeah, you're really not 102 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: in control. You thought she was controlling stuff, Nah, you're 103 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: not in control, and so to stay sane and okay, 104 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: I think this is one of the best quotes to 105 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: lean into right now. 106 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: Yes, I agree with that that, you know, the biggest 107 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: lesson that we've gotten from all of this is, yes, 108 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: we are not in control, right and part of what 109 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: helps us is recognizing that things are constantly changing, and 110 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: I think about for myself just constantly reminding myself that 111 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: I need to identify what is within my control in 112 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: this ever changing environment, and also giving myself credit for 113 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: navigating all of this right, so extending myself some grace 114 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: and compassion because we are living in uncharted times, right 115 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: and knowing that. I think one thing that can be 116 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: comforting is knowing that all of us are dealing with 117 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: the same thing, right. I think sometimes it can feel 118 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: really lonely and isolating when we are navigating something and 119 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,119 Speaker 1: no one else may be going through the same thing, right, 120 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: But right now with COVID, all of us, every single 121 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: one of us, there is like no person on this 122 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: earth right now who is untouched by COVID in some way, right, 123 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: And I think that recognizing that, right, like recognizing that 124 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: we are not alone, can also kind of make this 125 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: a little bit easier to navigate. 126 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would definitely agree with that, And I do 127 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: believe it feels like deja vu, because you know, we 128 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 2: have some folks that are it just feel like we're 129 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: very much in flux. There's there's you can't really depend 130 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: on a lot right now. Right You might book a fight. 131 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: And then later I actually had a friend who was 132 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: coming to visit and then she's like, eh, we got 133 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 2: the delta, the delta, then we got to B and 134 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 2: we got the ABC. I mean, there's just so much 135 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: as far as the variance, and so she's like, yeah, 136 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: I'm going to cancel and we'll reschedule. So I think 137 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: about how some folks are going back to work, right, 138 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: some folks are they've gotten the update that they won't 139 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 2: be going back to work this year. They'll be going 140 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: back to work next year, making almost two years of 141 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: not being in the office or in the work environment 142 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: and working from home, which is like, right, but so 143 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: all right, you got kids. Some folks got them kids 144 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: going back to school, some of decided not to let 145 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: the kids go back. And then, you know, we still 146 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 2: have the controversy around vaccines, and that continues to see 147 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: people on social media who are like get the jab 148 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: and then some folks like don't get it, and then 149 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: there arguing in the comments section about their you know, 150 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: their perspectives and how they feel about it and whether 151 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: they trust the government or not. There's just so much 152 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: going on. Exactly what about you, don what's coming up 153 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: for you? Around at the state of the world. 154 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: I think all of that is like that is important 155 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: for us to think about, right, And and I want 156 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: to go back to something else that you had said 157 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: in the beginning about like time and the concept of time. 158 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: And I think that for a lot of people through 159 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: this pandemic, the concept of time has changed. So you 160 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: know how you were saying that it felt like, you know, 161 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: we're in August of twenty twenty one, right, and there 162 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: are some ways in which it felt like March twenty 163 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: March twenty twenty feels like years ago, and in other respects, 164 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: it feels like it was just yesterday, right, And really 165 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: trying to figure out the concept of time. Like there 166 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: are multiple times where I walk into and I say 167 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: walk into, but what I really mean is enter a 168 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: zoom room because most being hostile virtual, right, I pop 169 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: up and on that zoom screen and we you know, 170 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: I can mean engaging in conversation with folks and someone 171 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: will say, yeah, so today today is Friday, and then 172 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: someone else will. 173 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: Say, no, no, it's not. 174 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: Today is Wednesday, and the rest of us will look 175 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: around and kind of say, oh wait, oh, yeah, today 176 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: is Wednesday. 177 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: But it feels like Friday, but I don't know what 178 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: day it. 179 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: Is really And that concept of time has shifted for 180 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: a lot of us, because especially for those folks who 181 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: are still working from home, because things like you don't 182 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: if you're not physically leaving your house, then it's hard 183 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: to kind of tell what day it really is because 184 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: everything seems to be the same. 185 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: Every day seems to be the same. 186 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: That is such a good point. It made me think 187 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: about the fact that I have not like, I have 188 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: so many clothes in my closets. Some of them I 189 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: can't fit no more but' here don't be in my business, yop. 190 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: But some of the clothes I'm like, I have not 191 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: touched some of these outfits. And for I think during 192 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 2: the pandemic, my mindset shifted around the way I purchased 193 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: things as well, because I'm like, a lot of things 194 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: we didn't think we could do from home. I will say, 195 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: there are some people that you just have to go 196 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: to work, right, like you have to be in the field. 197 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: And I respect that and understand that. And at the 198 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: same time, I think there are so many different roles 199 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: and jobs and opportunities that we realized, oh wait, we 200 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 2: could actually do this. Right from home and just pop 201 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: up on pop out on the camera and make it 202 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: do what a do, and have your shirt on and 203 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: have no pants on. Nobody judges I haven't put on 204 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: my heels and forever. So it's just very different. You know, 205 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: haven't spent a lot of money because I haven't really 206 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: needed to do those things. But as you them, as 207 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: you are preparing to go back to work for right now, 208 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 2: because that could change who knows right right? What are 209 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: you mentally doing to prepare yourself to go back to 210 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: work and also to manage any anxiety that make him 211 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: around with that decision. 212 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's a great question because I know that 213 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: there are a lot of folks who are having to 214 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: figure out how to get back into the office. And 215 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: I know that there are a lot of universities that 216 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, that have been all remote last year are 217 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: inviting folks to come back on campus and be in person. 218 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: And I think the hard part is that every place 219 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: is doing something different, right, So it's hard to say, 220 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: like I can't call a colleague at another university and 221 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: get insight on how to navigate something specific to you know, 222 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: when my university is doing something different than theirs. Right, 223 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: and even within departments on campuses like those things are different, 224 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: and I think about so for me personally, the thing 225 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: that I focus on in terms of managing my anxiety around. 226 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: Being back on being back. 227 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: In the office, right, So I think about, well, what 228 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: are the things that I can control? 229 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: Right? 230 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: So, if you're listening and you're trying to figure out 231 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: you're in a similar situation, think about, okay, well what 232 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: are the things that are within your control with these 233 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: new with the new delta variant, and who knows what 234 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: other variants may come about. When you're being asked to 235 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: come back into the office, you may have concerns around 236 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: your safety, right, And for me, the thing that I 237 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: focus on is if I know that safety around navigating 238 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: germs and potential exposure is a big deal to me, 239 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: then I think about, okay, well what is my office 240 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: providing in that regard? 241 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: Right? 242 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: So, is my office being supplied with air purifiers, do 243 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: we have proper ventilation? Do are they providing hands and 244 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: tides or wipes, light syle things like. 245 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 3: That all right? And if they aren't. 246 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: Because there are a lot of officers that aren't able 247 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: to do that, then then I make sure that I 248 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: pack a bag that has those. 249 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: Things in there. Let me be clear, I'm not packing 250 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: a bag with an airpui fire. I'm not. That's that's 251 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: been much. 252 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: But I am packing my lightestylet and my gloves and 253 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: wipes and hand sanitizer so that I can wipe off 254 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: common touch points and I can spray light salt, like 255 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: before I go into a shared bathroom, you know, So 256 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: I think about what are the protocols that I can 257 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: take in the spaces that I'm going to ahead of time. Right, 258 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: And let's say, because you know, things are unexpected, things happen. 259 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: Let's say that I'm going going into a space and 260 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm not prepared with my usual protocols. At a minimum, 261 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to wash my hands right, constantly, make sure 262 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: that I'm washing my hands. And so you have to 263 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: think about as an individual, think about the things that 264 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: you need to do. 265 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 3: To keep yourself safe. Right. 266 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: And I think it goes without saying, even though there 267 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: are some folks where this is controversy, for me, it 268 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: goes without saying that I'm wearing my mask right, regardless 269 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: of what my vaccination status may be, I'm wearing a mask. 270 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 3: So for me, it's about. 271 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: As an individual thinking about what are the things that 272 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: I can do to keep myself and the people around 273 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: me safe. 274 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: Don those are really good points, and I appreciate you 275 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: sharing that hopefully gave you, lady, or if we have 276 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: some fellows from here, an idea around what you might 277 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: be able to do if you're also transitioning back into 278 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: the workplace. I do want to say, as someone that 279 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: is working from home at this point, indefinitely, I there 280 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: are a lot of things that I realize I appreciate 281 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: about the time that we're in. I know that it 282 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 2: can definitely be It's been a tough time for many 283 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: of us, and I've had my moments of you know, 284 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 2: and there are definitely days where I'm like, dang, it's 285 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: a little rough. But I think overall, I've also found 286 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: the silver lining and some of this, And I think 287 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: one is not feeling bad about people being in my 288 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: personal space. So if I am either visiting someone or 289 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 2: I'm out somewhere, now it feels like those of us 290 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: that don't really want to be touched or like be 291 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: in you know, close proximity to folks, you kind of 292 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 2: have a there's like a bigger reason that people get 293 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: now you don't have to do a lot of explaining. 294 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: You can just step back and people like I haven't 295 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: shaken someone's hand and I don't know how long. You 296 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: know what I mean, that's that's great. I don't know 297 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: where your hands been, right, it feels great, I would say, yeah. No, 298 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: I would say also wearing the mask. As much as 299 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: it's like, it's so uncomfortable in certain environments wearing a mask, 300 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: but I have not been sicken over a year, Like 301 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: I haven't had any colds or anything. That's also a 302 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 2: good feeling. So I've been digging that. And then also 303 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: being a homebody, not feeling an expectation to go places 304 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: that I may not want to go. So I think 305 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: those are some of the things that are top of 306 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: mind for me as someone who is at home who 307 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: will probably be home with a newborn. So it's it 308 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: adds another a whole nother dynamic there. Now, you touched 309 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: on a few of the ways that you're managing anxiety, 310 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: don but I do want to dive into some of 311 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: the other tips that we have, and you also have 312 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 2: another episode about this, a longer extended episode on the podcast, 313 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: so you definitely want to check that out. The first 314 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: tip that we have to manage anxiety is to stay informed. 315 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 2: I'm going to add a little asterisk yes, next to 316 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 2: stay informed please personally, yeah, because I will say sometimes 317 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: the news will give you anxiety, Like, so be mindful 318 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: of where you're getting your news, what you're tuning into, 319 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 2: what content you're letting into your psyche. As you're scrolling 320 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 2: down your timeline on social media. I saw something This 321 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 2: is a little off topic, but I saw things the 322 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 2: other day and soone was like, it feels like we 323 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: don't have a president right now because they're so used 324 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: to the old president, like always being in the news, 325 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: always sharing something and kind of just being low key 326 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: triggered by all the stuff that he was doing. And 327 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 2: now they're like, it'ks like we have a substitute teacher 328 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: and like we're waiting for the real teacher to come back. 329 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: And I was like, I think, right, it's like you 330 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: don't hear about the president being in the news. That's 331 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: often with so much, so much content that just makes you, yeah, 332 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 2: like the shocking content where you're just like, what the 333 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 2: what's going on? So that's I thought that was interesting. 334 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 2: So it kind of goes back to like staying in formed, right, 335 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: being mindful about where you're going to hear your content 336 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: and how much you can handle it at that given moment. 337 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: Right. 338 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: One of the things that I tell people with that 339 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: is to set limits for yourself. 340 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 3: Right. So for some of us, what that looks. 341 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: Like is, you know that you can't watch certain things 342 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: on the news, right. So I know that a lot 343 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 1: of the news likes to be sensationalized, right, and so 344 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: you can't watch videos of COVID patients right dying and 345 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: things like that, And so for you, it may be 346 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: better to listen, you know, to listen to the news 347 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: or to read the news right so that you're not 348 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: getting taken in the visuals. And then also with that, 349 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: setting time limits on how much you're going to spend 350 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 1: consuming the news each day. You know, one thing that 351 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: I often suggest to folks is taking their you know, 352 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: maybe spend maybe fifteen minutes first thing in the morning, 353 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: or not first thing, but or you know, that's in 354 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: your general getting ready routine in the morning of fifteen 355 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: minutes of getting updated on the news, right, and then 356 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: maybe fifteen minutes again later on in the evening. 357 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: But that's it. 358 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: You don't need more than that to get just the 359 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: high level important things that matter to you. And so 360 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: then that takes us to tip number two, which is 361 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: to acknowledge your feelings. I think oftentimes if we don't 362 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: allow ourselves to first acknowledge what the feelings are, then 363 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: that won't allow us to move forward in a way 364 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: that's gonna be that's gonna feel healthy or helpful. Right, So, 365 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: if I'm feeling anxious but I'm not acknowledging by anxiety, 366 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: if I'm in denial about it, or I'm pushing it aside, 367 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: then I'm not Chances are then I'm not gonna engage 368 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: in any behaviors that will help mitigate that anxiety. If anything, 369 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: the behaviors I'm engaging in might only exactly survey those feelings. 370 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: And so then I get on this hamster wheel of 371 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: just being a constant cycle of anxiety. But if I 372 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: allow myself to acknowledge that the feelings exist, then I 373 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: can step forward and say, Okay, if I'm feeling anxious, 374 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: what can I do about it? 375 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: I love it? And that takes us on to number three, 376 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: which is as we've said in the episode before, and 377 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 2: so we set on the podcast before focus on what 378 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 2: you can control. And one of the things that this 379 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: makes me think about DOM is setting boundaries. And I think, 380 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: who over the past year one being pregnant, then being 381 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 2: a new mom, and then being you know, being alive 382 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 2: in the midst of this pandemic. It has really tested 383 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: my I want to say, boundary setting muscle, because there 384 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: are one to have a little human to advocate for 385 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: who can't advocate for themselves. So I am like on it, 386 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: trying to be the best mama bear I can be, 387 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 2: and like making sure my child is protected, but then 388 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: also setting boundaries for myself because if I get sick, 389 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: then I'm impacting the baby, right. So I think, you know, 390 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: we have tons of episodes about boundaries, but I think 391 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: that focusing on what you can control makes me think 392 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: about how I showed up in different ways as it 393 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: relates to setting boundaries. So whether it's people coming to 394 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: visit and even though some folks they're like, I don't 395 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: really want to wear a mask, it's like, well you 396 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 2: got to. If you're trying to visit, You're trying to 397 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: come in here, like you got to wear it. 398 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 3: My life right, right, Or or. 399 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 2: People that want to hug or you know, just whatever 400 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: it might be in your life. So I would definitely 401 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: lean into that as well, because there's a lot that 402 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: we can't control, but if you take a look at it, 403 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: there are certain things that we can control. And sometimes 404 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 2: it's gonna, you know, encourage us to build some muscle 405 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: that we may not have really built before, or we 406 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 2: may not have worked out before. But I do find 407 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: that it's really useful when we tap into that and 408 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: just focus on what are the things that I can control? 409 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: Right now? 410 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 2: With my routine, that's something I can control. So whether 411 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: it's working out well and doing what I need to 412 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: do to make sure that I am showing up as 413 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: the best that I can be and I'm in a 414 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: good mental space, those are things that I can control now. 415 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: We asked a question in the discussion, and we said, 416 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: how are you managing anxiety during this time? And one 417 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 2: of the answers is, honestly, I'm still trying to figure 418 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 2: it out. So if you all have any feedback that 419 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: you want to share, or any questions that maybe we 420 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: can provide insight on, or we can all just kind 421 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: of ponder together, because we don't have all the answers 422 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 2: we might be to find you with some answers, but 423 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 2: we won't have all answers. We're in there together, Okay, 424 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: we're in this together. Let us know in the chat 425 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: anything else coming up for you around this topic down. 426 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I just want to acknowledge that 427 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: it's okay to still be trying to figure it out, right, 428 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: that we, like you said, we're all in this together, 429 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: and things are constantly changing, and so that if as 430 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: things change, how you navigate things may need to change. 431 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: And that's okay. You know, none of us. If there 432 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: was somebody who had this completely totally figured out, I 433 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: think we might be out of the pandemic by now. 434 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 3: Someone had it completely figure it out. 435 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: But they don't, and so we're all trying to navigate 436 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: this thing. And I think what that encourages is for 437 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: all of us to extend grace and compassion to other people. 438 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that I'm constantly reminding 439 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: myself is that, you know, adults make their own choices. 440 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: I mean kids too, but you know what I mean. 441 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: Adults make their own choices, and I'm not going to 442 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: argue with grown people around the choices that they're making. 443 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: We are, we're all entitled to make the choices that feel. 444 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 3: Comfortable for us. I might not like it, and that's 445 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 3: okay too. 446 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good point. I'm glad that you 447 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 2: pointed that out. And I was actually I was going 448 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 2: to say something and not totally totally escapes me at 449 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 2: the moment, but I'm glad that you said acknowledge that 450 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: it's okay that you're still trying to figure it out. 451 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: Because when you believe, if you just think about ten 452 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: fifteen years down the line, when we look back on 453 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 2: this time period, this is a this is a wild 454 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 2: time to be alive. This is a wild time like 455 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: we this is so, this is the wild is the 456 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: word like, I don't know, I don't want use to 457 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 2: call it like, this is just it. It's pretty it's 458 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: pretty intense. Okay, it's interesting. 459 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think about well was that ten twelve years 460 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: ago with H one N one mm hmmm. And at 461 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: that time, I was working at a in I was 462 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: working on a college campus and we were in a 463 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: health center. And to work in a health center, often 464 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: times people are required to get the employees are required 465 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: to get the flu shot, and that year we were 466 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: required to get the flu shot. To combat h one one, right, 467 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: and I cannot recall people being against it in the 468 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: way that like at the level of controversy around it, 469 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: the way there's controversy now, right, And there's a piece 470 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: of me that wonders if some of it is about 471 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: our access to information, right, Like the times that we're in, 472 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: we have access to so much information, So there's an 473 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: abundance of people saying, Okay, I'm gonna make my own 474 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: decision based on the information that I have access to, 475 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: And so I think that that's what makes that's part 476 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: of what it's contributing to this feeling so different than 477 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: any other thing that we've been through. 478 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I would definitely definitely agree with that we 479 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: have way more access to information now. And also, like 480 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: you said before, this is something that's impacting the whole world. 481 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 2: And so if you are listening to this episode, just know, 482 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: like you may not have achieved all the goals that 483 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: you wanted to achieve in the past year, year and 484 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 2: a half. You may not be where you want to be. 485 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: You maybe going through a rough time, but you're still here. 486 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: And I truly believe that if you're still here, there's 487 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 2: still hope and so we're all this together. We here, 488 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 2: we made it. There's still a journey ahead of us. 489 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: I do want to also point out in closing it, 490 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 2: we have a lot of episodes that have gotten folks, 491 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: including ourselves, through the pandemic okay, and just through life 492 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: in general. Okay. So there are episodes about managing anxiety. 493 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 2: There are episodes about how to say positive when you're 494 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:46,239 Speaker 2: in a negative environment. We have episodes about dealing with 495 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: or coping with a family member that might have a 496 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: mental illness. Like literally so many topics on the podcast, 497 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: So definitely go through the podcast archives see what episode 498 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: resonates with you and check it out. And you can 499 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: literally meet us here at the same time, same place 500 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: every Friday, thirty pm Pacific time, four thirty pm Eastern 501 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: time here on Green Room. And then we have produced 502 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: episodes that are released every Friday. So we just got 503 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: content on top of content on top of content for you. 504 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: So come and check us out. 505 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, please do. We are looking forward to seeing 506 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: you in this space next Friday, one thirty Pacific, four 507 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: thirty Eastern. 508 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in.