Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April thirty. This is Jack Bars Happy
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Speaker 1: in Jaguars Happy Hour on April, final day of the month,
Speaker 1: May tomorrow. Yes, today's Thursday. First of all, if you
Speaker 1: haven't you lost track, I think a lot of us
Speaker 1: might have by this time. And it is the final
Speaker 1: day of a Welcome in. J P. Shadwick with you.
Speaker 1: We've got quite a show today. Jack channelis Jeff Loguman
Speaker 1: coming up shortly Auburn head coach Gus Melson. We caught
Speaker 1: up over a zoom call yesterday. It's available on the
Speaker 1: team website. You'll hear a portion of that coming up
Speaker 1: in a little while to discuss Daniel Thomas, the Jaguars
Speaker 1: safety draft pick, the fifth round draft pick this year.
Speaker 1: Senior writer John Oshan joins us will recap the draft
Speaker 1: and get into this Andy Dalton business. He was cut
Speaker 1: by the Bengals today and that's the talk online and
Speaker 1: on social media is that maybe the Jags could be
Speaker 1: in consideration. We'll go around the National Football League as well,
Speaker 1: and we'll hear a preview of next week's visit with
Speaker 1: Mel Tucker, former Jaguars defensive coordinator now the head coach
Speaker 1: at Michigan State who just got the job in February.
Speaker 1: But will delve into la Visca Chenault, his former wide
Speaker 1: receiver slash offensive weapon type guy at Colorado last year.
Speaker 1: That's coming up a little bit later in the show. Today,
Speaker 1: let's go to the phone lines immediately right out of
Speaker 1: the gate, and he he leads us off this week
Speaker 1: is Jaguars analyst Jeff Laguma. Jeff, Good, afternoon. It's nice
Speaker 1: to leadoff for one. Well, you've always done such a
Speaker 1: great job as the anchor leg of the show bringing
Speaker 1: us on home in the right way that you know what,
Speaker 1: we've got to move it around this week, and and
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna get on base for us. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get your over and get you in. How about that. No,
Speaker 1: it's good at and I know there's there's plenty to
Speaker 1: talk about, but the draft having just been completed, and
Speaker 1: and also many underrafted rookies agree to terms with the Jaguar,
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's gonna be there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of new faces that are gonna be wearing teal and
Speaker 1: black when in camp eventually opened. I hope you know
Speaker 1: that's a lot that's so at thirty rookies, eighteen signees
Speaker 1: after the draft, twelve draft picks, and then who knows
Speaker 1: in free agency, and there's a couple of churning spots
Speaker 1: as this goes on here, before we get to the
Speaker 1: draft and the new guys and all that, Let's start
Speaker 1: off with a big name of the day around the NFL,
Speaker 1: and it's Andy Dalton, who was cut by the Cincinnati Bengals,
Speaker 1: and it's on social media. Everybody's like a lot of
Speaker 1: people are, hey, the Jags could be in consideration. Would
Speaker 1: you dare Jeff signing Andy Dalton? Yeah, I mean I would.
Speaker 1: I mean for a couple of reasons. One, he has
Speaker 1: been a uh, a decent starter in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: He's familiar with your offensive coordinator Gruden and uh and
Speaker 1: he needs a job. And to be perfectly honest with you,
Speaker 1: I don't think the Jaguars backup quarterback situation. This is
Speaker 1: assuming obviously that Minshu is your starter. I don't. I
Speaker 1: think that dobbs Is is a highly uh you know,
Speaker 1: bought a backup quarterback in the National Football league. In fact,
Speaker 1: there are some reports last year when Dobbs was in
Speaker 1: practice that it wasn't very good. So you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm all for the Jaguars going on out.
Speaker 1: If you asked me this a week ago, I would
Speaker 1: have said, no, go out and draft you one, because
Speaker 1: I thought that there was an opportunity to do that
Speaker 1: early on this draft, and the Jaguars decided not to
Speaker 1: do that. And I do understand that the Jaguars ended
Speaker 1: up getting a quarterback late in the draft, but they
Speaker 1: expect him to be a backup quarterback at some point
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars this year. For Jake Luton. Is that
Speaker 1: pronounced correctly? Yeah, Jake Luton Luton? You know, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I expect him to be more of a developmental type
Speaker 1: product project anyway, So yeah, I ain't. Dalton should absolutely
Speaker 1: be on the Ars radar. You got to get through
Speaker 1: a couple of things before that happened. Number One, Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton has to realize that there's not another starting opportunity
Speaker 1: in this league. Number one. And he's also got to
Speaker 1: realize that the money is not gonna be at seventeen
Speaker 1: eighteen million a year, you know, So, uh, he's got
Speaker 1: to realize he's gonna be a backup. And number two,
Speaker 1: he's got to realize that the pay is not gonna
Speaker 1: be what it would have been if he had remained
Speaker 1: under contract with the Cincinnati Bengal. We'll see what happens
Speaker 1: Dave Coldwell has up his sleeve in the next couple
Speaker 1: of days. With that, now that's all said and done,
Speaker 1: let's go to the results of the NFL Draft. Let's
Speaker 1: start in the first round. Two picks in the first round,
Speaker 1: ninth overall, twenty overall. Uh C J. Henderson is the
Speaker 1: pick at nine, the corner from Florida and defensive end
Speaker 1: backer Caleb and chased on from l S. You two
Speaker 1: defensive players early, and now you have the ability on
Speaker 1: defense to have potential playmaking types at every level of
Speaker 1: the defense. Likes Oh, you hope you know. And and
Speaker 1: I really like Jason. I think he's got a great
Speaker 1: motor and uh, you know, good for him to have
Speaker 1: the year that he had last year, which was a good,
Speaker 1: really good year. I don't want to say that a
Speaker 1: great year, but a really good year coming off of
Speaker 1: a knee that's impressed of love his motor, love his intensity.
Speaker 1: He plays hard, he's got some some pass rush ability,
Speaker 1: and with the situation within got Way kind of unknown
Speaker 1: and what's going to happen with that, that makes that
Speaker 1: a position of need. So I think it's a good fit.
Speaker 1: Uh supposedly a high character guy, he's got some real
Speaker 1: nice hips. He can bend it around the edge, and
Speaker 1: you know, if the Jaguars end up having issues within
Speaker 1: got Way or if he's even back in the fold now,
Speaker 1: Chasan gives him, I think, an opportunity to be really
Speaker 1: flexible as a defense to where they can play there
Speaker 1: for three principles, but then also what they really wanted
Speaker 1: to do last year but with the hold out of
Speaker 1: a Gookway they didn't end up doing it, is to
Speaker 1: get some of the three four principles on the field
Speaker 1: and make it more prevalent because we saw a little
Speaker 1: pieces of it last year as a defense, but we
Speaker 1: never really saw it to where it became a bulk
Speaker 1: of a game plan. And I think if you have
Speaker 1: time to prepare, which now we're looking at no all
Speaker 1: season stuff, you know, but if you can get into
Speaker 1: camp and have a camp to where you can prepare
Speaker 1: for that flexibility, I sure would be nice and create
Speaker 1: a lot of headaches for offensive coordinators. Loves the nuances
Speaker 1: of the differences of four three, three four. It can
Speaker 1: be I mean, obviously a linebacker would maybe come up
Speaker 1: on the ball, but it's really the spacing upfront has
Speaker 1: a lot to do with it too. It's not just
Speaker 1: hate JP, to be honest with you, Sometimes when I
Speaker 1: watch the someone sitting, they're going, is this the three
Speaker 1: four or is this a four or three? Because so
Speaker 1: many principles where the three four are used in a
Speaker 1: four three and vice versa. So, uh, there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of difference, but uh, it just makes it a
Speaker 1: little bit more unpredictable, you know. The where I think
Speaker 1: your blitz package has become a little bit more varied
Speaker 1: when you're running a three four and you have that
Speaker 1: personnel on the field where you've got some guys that
Speaker 1: can cover, uh that also can rush or cover. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think it's nice to have that flexibility.
Speaker 1: And I like to pick up C. J. Henderson of
Speaker 1: what I'd like to be able to get a little
Speaker 1: bit farther down in the first round to get him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean you probably say that about every guy
Speaker 1: and he's fast, Uh, you know, so I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to seeing him in person. When I watched this film,
Speaker 1: I will tell you I didn't see a whole lot
Speaker 1: of difference between him, and I said this before the draft.
Speaker 1: I didn't see a whole lot of difference between him
Speaker 1: and the quarterback from Ohio State, Esse Kuda, you know,
Speaker 1: and the people had Okuda. It's like a top five,
Speaker 1: and I'm going, well, and my my, by saying this,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that Okuda should have been where
Speaker 1: he is and that Henderson should have been higher. I
Speaker 1: think Occuda should have been down a little bit because
Speaker 1: I didn't think there was a that big of a
Speaker 1: difference between Okuda and Henderson. So I'm I'm glad that
Speaker 1: the Jaguars got one of the top two corners. That
Speaker 1: was pretty much the consensus of all the different personnel
Speaker 1: people around, because it's obviously it's a huge position of
Speaker 1: need for the Jaguars, and uh boy, you've you've had
Speaker 1: a couple of big subtractions, so adding a little bit
Speaker 1: to that equation certainly helps. Jeff Loggingman, with US Jaguars analyst,
Speaker 1: on Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon, the final
Speaker 1: day of April let's go on to the second round.
Speaker 1: Leavisca Chanault, junior wide receiver from Colorado, and he was
Speaker 1: injured a couple of years ago. And you heard Dave
Speaker 1: called well after the draft say, you know, if this
Speaker 1: was a year ago, and you know, he might be
Speaker 1: a first round consideration, high first round, one of the top,
Speaker 1: if not the top receiver coming out. Um. The question
Speaker 1: now is can he get back to that form? And
Speaker 1: the Jaguars took a second round pick on him, so
Speaker 1: they feel like he can. And it's not just a
Speaker 1: wide receiver here, Logs. I caught up with Mel Tuckler
Speaker 1: Mel Tucker earlier today. We'll hear that interview coming up
Speaker 1: early next week. But the way you can move him around,
Speaker 1: play him left, play him right, play him in the slot,
Speaker 1: line him up in the backfield. That was what Colorado
Speaker 1: did and it worked out pretty well. That's a good
Speaker 1: weapon to have on offense, well on as tough as nails.
Speaker 1: You know that. That's what I like. And you know
Speaker 1: one of the I think the themes of this draft
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars as a whole, I think character mattered.
Speaker 1: I think in in pass here sometimes it might have
Speaker 1: been pushed the side at times for certain guys where
Speaker 1: there was you know, you could see maybe great value
Speaker 1: in a guy, but I think characters at a premium.
Speaker 1: And I think that this is also one of the
Speaker 1: business strengths say is that he's a higher guy. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure you had a chance to read the letter
Speaker 1: that he wrote to the general managers around the National
Speaker 1: Football League, and when a player does essentially it was
Speaker 1: a letter that he wrote and talked about the injuries
Speaker 1: that he fought through, talked about where he came from,
Speaker 1: talked about his upbringing, talked about his parents, the death
Speaker 1: of his father. I mean, there were all these different
Speaker 1: things that he wrote in this letter to the NFL
Speaker 1: general managers and you sit there and you read it
Speaker 1: and you go wow. I mean, what a powerful thing
Speaker 1: to have done. And I think it really good. It
Speaker 1: shows I thought it showed great courage to be able
Speaker 1: to do something like that, but also showed that he's
Speaker 1: an accountable person and that's the type of players that
Speaker 1: you want to have on your football team. And he's
Speaker 1: a physical presence Jap. I mean he's big, you know,
Speaker 1: he's a wide receiver. It's a done there, two hundred
Speaker 1: thirty pounds and he's physical. You know, He's not one
Speaker 1: of these wide receivers that once he catches it like
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison or Reggie Wayne used to when we saw
Speaker 1: with the Indian that was called the only time that
Speaker 1: he that he's gonna look for a place to go down. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean, holy cow, he's different now. He likes to
Speaker 1: bang and he likes to finish plays. So from from
Speaker 1: that standpoint as a defensive player, I like those kind
Speaker 1: of guys. Love. As you mentioned, the character aspect of
Speaker 1: this thing, and that's been a storyline at the end
Speaker 1: of the draft that basically all the guys picked, twelve
Speaker 1: of them have clean backgrounds, are great off the field
Speaker 1: according to their former coaches and teammates and everything. How
Speaker 1: quickly and two questions here, I guess we logs how
Speaker 1: much did this Jaguars locker room need that kind of
Speaker 1: influx of character guys? And how quickly can you change
Speaker 1: a locker room in the NFL? I mean, well, you
Speaker 1: can change it quick now. I mean just cut a
Speaker 1: few guys, trade a few guys, uh, you know, and
Speaker 1: then you bring in higher character type of guys. But
Speaker 1: I mean, holy cow, you go back JT to the
Speaker 1: so some of the incidents that this team had, you know,
Speaker 1: in twenty from off the field stuff to some of
Speaker 1: the stuff that was on the field, it wasn't good,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's hard to win that way. And
Speaker 1: and I think if you look at the most successful
Speaker 1: team in the National Football League, the Patriot, they never
Speaker 1: really had any of those issues. I mean there were
Speaker 1: some issues, but I mean they didn't have any distractions
Speaker 1: during the season out of their players, whereas the Jaguars
Speaker 1: and there seemed to be many. So I like that fact.
Speaker 1: Then yes, you can change your culture in a hurry.
Speaker 1: And I think it has to start at the top.
Speaker 1: And then but when you bring in certain players, they
Speaker 1: gotta have you gotta have guidelines, and then when you
Speaker 1: bring them in here, there has to be an understanding.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that Doug Morone is gonna stress that out,
Speaker 1: stress that to the highest point, because that's something that
Speaker 1: I know that he feels very strongly out And and
Speaker 1: I think that that was I don't want to say
Speaker 1: that was all his doing. I think it was a
Speaker 1: little bit of a combination of Dave called well and
Speaker 1: we're both thinking, look, we need to do this right,
Speaker 1: and here's an opportunity for us to do it right
Speaker 1: with all these picks that we have. Let's change the culture.
Speaker 1: And that's what they talked about, and I think that
Speaker 1: that's part of of of being a winner, and that's
Speaker 1: what has to change certainly with this football team. The
Speaker 1: culture has to change. Accountability has to come up, and
Speaker 1: the character needs to be there in order for a
Speaker 1: lot of those things to happen. And certainly a lot
Speaker 1: of those things need to have happen for this team
Speaker 1: to win. Love's last couple of minutes with you here
Speaker 1: going through the last day's worth of picks. So that
Speaker 1: was eight picks on Saturday, busy day at the draft
Speaker 1: room for Dave Caldwell and the and the crew uh
Speaker 1: picking players for this team. So I'm gonna ask you
Speaker 1: who you know maybe you might be your favorite right
Speaker 1: out of the gate of the later round picks, I'm
Speaker 1: picking a couple of different guys here, quarterman, the linebacker,
Speaker 1: I think he has a chance downhill type of linebacker. Um.
Speaker 1: And then the the one that I guess not surprised
Speaker 1: but kind of made you go was the tight end
Speaker 1: from Georgia Tech, Tyler Davis, and he was a transfer
Speaker 1: in from yukon good numbers there went to Georgia Tech
Speaker 1: and as a grand transfer last year. And this is
Speaker 1: an offense in transition in Atlanta, remember because they played
Speaker 1: the option, the triple option for ten years and then
Speaker 1: fire Paul Johnson left. They bring in a new coach.
Speaker 1: The offense is trying to figure out who's playing well.
Speaker 1: They haven't had a tight end, a true tight end
Speaker 1: on the roster really in a decade, so he didn't
Speaker 1: get the ball a lot. If he can figure out
Speaker 1: he can manage the blocking in the league and catch
Speaker 1: the ball when it's thrown to him, those kind of
Speaker 1: guys logs can have a lengthy career if they can
Speaker 1: get through those early years of maturation in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Those are my two favorites. What about you, Well, I
Speaker 1: want to see him first, but you know, because I
Speaker 1: haven't watched the film on the later round picks yet.
Speaker 1: But I will say this is that typically later round
Speaker 1: picks or later round picks for a reason, And so
Speaker 1: I usually get excited about some of your third in
Speaker 1: your fourth round picks because I think that's where some
Speaker 1: guys can really surprise you and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: go wow, how did somebody not take a flyer on
Speaker 1: him in the first round of the second round because
Speaker 1: he's a player. So I think the third in the
Speaker 1: fourth round is where you find more of those guys
Speaker 1: where you get really excited about, like the quarterback from
Speaker 1: Michigan State, Scott you know either him also quarterman as
Speaker 1: you mentioned, the linebacker from Miami and Daniel Thomas Alburn
Speaker 1: the safety. I mean, those are guys that are right
Speaker 1: there in that sweet spot of the draft where you're
Speaker 1: looking at third, fourth and fifth rounders where they may
Speaker 1: end up being certainly much better prospects than where they
Speaker 1: were drafted at or their draft status, and you get
Speaker 1: a little bit tired of hearing all the person all
Speaker 1: guys talk about all their draft picks and boh, we
Speaker 1: had a first round grade at them, and we were
Speaker 1: fortunate to get him in the third round. Sometimes when
Speaker 1: you hear that, you sit there and you go, that's
Speaker 1: a little ridiculous. But in some cases, look, that's the
Speaker 1: belief that they have and guys, and sometimes that plays out,
Speaker 1: and a lot of times it doesn't play out. You
Speaker 1: end up seeing a guy who's drafted in the second round.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't have been drafted in the fourth round, you know,
Speaker 1: so uh so for me, in that sweet spot of
Speaker 1: that third fourth round, that's where you really look to
Speaker 1: find some guys that look at it happens, but it's
Speaker 1: happened before to where all sudden JP in the sixth
Speaker 1: round or seventh round pick all sudden turns into a
Speaker 1: really good football player. But the percentage is just don't there.
Speaker 1: It's funny. You've never heard a college coach say, you know,
Speaker 1: we had a decent recruiting class, it was okay this year.
Speaker 1: You've never heard of GM or coach say, yeah, our
Speaker 1: draft classes, yeah they're okay. You know, they're always great,
Speaker 1: and this one has a chance to turn it around
Speaker 1: if you can hit on some of these guests. Well.
Speaker 1: And I think the one thing that became very apparent
Speaker 1: after the draft was over that this football team and
Speaker 1: the organization as a whole has gone all in on
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. I mean, I mean, I think that's the
Speaker 1: that's probably one of the biggest headlines that has come
Speaker 1: out of this draft for this football team. And is
Speaker 1: that the right thing? I don't know that. I don't
Speaker 1: know the answer to that. Only the future will tell that.
Speaker 1: But there was an opportunity there in the first round
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars to be able to select a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Whether it been early on at nine or sometime later on,
Speaker 1: you know, they had a chance to do that. So
Speaker 1: uh it definitely certainly tells people that, hey, Minshew is
Speaker 1: the mania, and we got the mania here in the
Speaker 1: in the front office, and we got the mania. The
Speaker 1: head coach's office loves good stuff. You are a pretty
Speaker 1: good lead off hit. Or I'll say, hey, I try
Speaker 1: my best, dipty, I tried my best. In next week, Well,
Speaker 1: I've had an opportunity to watch some of the film
Speaker 1: on some of these these uh fourth them later of
Speaker 1: the round and we can go in a little bit
Speaker 1: of detail. I might give you a name of a guy.
Speaker 1: Watch out. This guy is who I'm really excited about. Oh,
Speaker 1: I can't wait. That's a week away from today. We'll
Speaker 1: hear from Logs again. Uh, thank you, Loggs. We'll talk
Speaker 1: to you then. Alright, plenty still to come on. Jaguars
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Speaker 1: analysts for leading us off today. UH. Yesterday had a
Speaker 1: chance to catch up with Auburn head coach gust Mills
Speaker 1: on the The Jags selected Daniel Thomas safety out of
Speaker 1: Auburn in the fifth round. Who's a strutter for the
Speaker 1: Tigers the last two years. He's out of Lee High
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Speaker 1: a scholarship, and that was the school he wanted to
Speaker 1: go to. So he ended up at Auburn. We'll here
Speaker 1: coach males On here on that recruiting process, how he
Speaker 1: developed over the years, and what kind of player the
Speaker 1: Jaguars getting dust mals On here on Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 1: How has this been for your football program? No spring ball,
Speaker 1: A lot of questions about the ball. How are your
Speaker 1: staff and players getting along to this time? Yeah, obviously
Speaker 1: it's been a unique time, I think for every one.
Speaker 1: And you know, not having spring practice, our guys all
Speaker 1: spread out. You know, probably about two weeks ago we
Speaker 1: actually started getting a routine and our guys are finishing
Speaker 1: up finals uh this week. And you know, staff wise,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're flipping the switch. We're thinking positive, we're
Speaker 1: thinking about, you know, when we get our guys back
Speaker 1: in the summer and getting ready to play the season. Coach,
Speaker 1: sixteen players from your program have been drafted over the
Speaker 1: last three years. That's the best from Auburn's from US
Speaker 1: since to ninety one. That's a long time. Ago now,
Speaker 1: but part of programs success, I as he was winning
Speaker 1: football games, winning with a vision and winning the SEC
Speaker 1: and and moving on from there. But seeing players go pro.
Speaker 1: Six Auburn players drafted this year. That tells you a
Speaker 1: lot about where your program is right now. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: really does. We're very excited, um, you know about the
Speaker 1: guys and the thing about it, the guys have been
Speaker 1: drafted and very well at the next level. We had
Speaker 1: six drafted this year. We had eight free agents, which
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a handful of those guys
Speaker 1: are gonna have a real chance to make a team.
Speaker 1: So real good uh time right now to be an
Speaker 1: Auburn Tiger. A coach gust Malson with us from the
Speaker 1: Auburn Tigers. Let's talk about Daniel Thomas and I was
Speaker 1: reading about his recruitment stories. Pretty interesting. He was a
Speaker 1: late addition to that signing class and was about to
Speaker 1: go to Minnesota, of all places, a guy from Montgomery,
Speaker 1: Alabama Lee High School was about to go to Minneapolis instead.
Speaker 1: You bring him in late, take us through that process,
Speaker 1: and how close of a call was that? Yeah, of
Speaker 1: course he's right down the roads. We knew about him.
Speaker 1: Brought him in an official bust the last week in
Speaker 1: and you can just kind of tell his positive energy.
Speaker 1: And got a chance to to meet his family that
Speaker 1: weekend too, And so after he left, we wanted to
Speaker 1: make this thing work, and luckily the numbers worked out,
Speaker 1: we were able to make that call I think about
Speaker 1: seven seven thirty Wednesday morning, and uh, you know, he
Speaker 1: was overjoyed. His mom was on the phone crying. It
Speaker 1: was a real special moment for him to be drafted. Now,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just, uh, it's just a real special deal.
Speaker 1: From that moment when he set foot on campus in
Speaker 1: Auburn to now, how much did he grow. Let's start
Speaker 1: off off the field as a person. What kind of
Speaker 1: person did he become in those years? And I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what you're getting an unbelievable leader. Uh, such a
Speaker 1: positive person, a very spiritual person. I mean he'll he'll
Speaker 1: send Bible verses out every day, you know, to the
Speaker 1: team and the staff. He's our f C, a leader,
Speaker 1: me my wife. We we take guys on mission trips
Speaker 1: in the spring and he went back to back years
Speaker 1: and just a wonderful human being that's gonna bring a
Speaker 1: lot of positivity to that locker room Dust Mason with
Speaker 1: his head coach of the Auburn Tigers. Now on the field,
Speaker 1: he was paired up with Jeremiah Denson at the safety
Speaker 1: position the last couple of years. It was a good
Speaker 1: tag team combo in the back end of your defense. There.
Speaker 1: He was second on the team and tackles the last
Speaker 1: two years. What kind of player will the Jaguars get
Speaker 1: at the safety position and on special teams as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I call him the heat seeking messial. I mean, he
Speaker 1: just has nose for the ball, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: and he's a very good tackler, a good open field tackler,
Speaker 1: a great competitor, and uh he's experienced. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: talking about a guy that's been a lot of big games,
Speaker 1: understands the game, understand situations. And you just said a
Speaker 1: special things. He's one of our better special teams player.
Speaker 1: And he took special teams just as you know, serious
Speaker 1: as he did defense. And he was one of our
Speaker 1: special teams leaders. And uh, you know, I can't say
Speaker 1: enough good things about him. He's got a chance of
Speaker 1: playing in the league a long long time. What was
Speaker 1: the best moment that you remember from him on the field?
Speaker 1: Is it that Iron Bowl his first time out a
Speaker 1: couple of picks hurts or is there something later in
Speaker 1: his career that stands up I tell you what you
Speaker 1: just I mean, you just said it, like start out
Speaker 1: as a true freshman in the Iron Ball on the
Speaker 1: road two interceptions. Uh, and he grew up in the
Speaker 1: state and he understands how big that is. And that
Speaker 1: really just laid the groundwork for him from a confidence
Speaker 1: standpoint that hey, not only can I play in this league,
Speaker 1: but I can play very high level. And then after that,
Speaker 1: really the the next three years, it was just like
Speaker 1: he turned into one of our leaders, a guy that
Speaker 1: you can count on. Uh, that has so much character. Uh.
Speaker 1: He loves practice and he loves the game of football.
Speaker 1: I mean and uh, like I said, I can't say
Speaker 1: enough good things coach mal Is is it the leadership
Speaker 1: part of his the way he goes around and does
Speaker 1: his business. Is it more of a vocal leadership? Is
Speaker 1: it by example a mixture? What's that personality? Like? Well,
Speaker 1: really it's by example, uh, first of all, but this year,
Speaker 1: being a senior, he was on my leadership committee. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then he started to become more vocal and he's
Speaker 1: the type. You know, he's not gonna say a whole lot,
Speaker 1: but when he does, everybody listens and they have so
Speaker 1: much respect for him as a person. As a player. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, everyone is rooting for Daniel Thomas coach. A
Speaker 1: couple more minutes with you here, and I've got to
Speaker 1: ask you while we have you on here about a
Speaker 1: couple of other SEC players that the Jaguars drafted on
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the football. You're, of course noted
Speaker 1: for your offensive prowess. There's the head coach of the
Speaker 1: Auburn Tigers. So let's start with C. J. Henderson. You
Speaker 1: saw Florida last year. I think he had three passes
Speaker 1: defense in that game. The cornerback out of Florida. What
Speaker 1: kind of corner and how how did you have to
Speaker 1: adjust when you when you saw him on the outside. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a guy that we definitely game playing around
Speaker 1: and tried to be very smart because we knew he
Speaker 1: had big play of belvy. He just felt such a
Speaker 1: confident player and so you know that was a big,
Speaker 1: big factor We're trying to game playing around him. And
Speaker 1: there was one one of the defensive linemen that, uh
Speaker 1: that we really were the two Keys, we felt like
Speaker 1: and being sussible, but but a dynamic player. Caleb and
Speaker 1: chased on the other Jaguars first round pick. As we
Speaker 1: sit here and talk today, the guy is twenty years
Speaker 1: old and he's a first round pick in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He'll be twenty one. So now there's a lot of
Speaker 1: tread left on the tires there for the Jaguars at least.
Speaker 1: But what kind of impact did he didn't make the
Speaker 1: last couple of years in the SEC. You know, we
Speaker 1: were always concerned about him rushing the pastor. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: he's long, he's fast, Um, you know, very explosive, and
Speaker 1: this Pastor he got a lot better against the run.
Speaker 1: So you're talking about a really, really good player that
Speaker 1: has a lot outside. Like I said, he's scary when
Speaker 1: you go against him, you know, Russian the Pastor. And finally,
Speaker 1: Don Davis Russell was here with the Jaguars as well,
Speaker 1: a draft pick late last year. I gotta get him
Speaker 1: on the field a little bit, but he's working his
Speaker 1: way up and we're glad to have him around here
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, Don Tangers is one of all time favorites.
Speaker 1: So you're talking about a guy that's just so steady
Speaker 1: h but he played really good for us. He's one
Speaker 1: of those guys it's just steady consistent. It gets overlooked.
Speaker 1: I think I think he was a lot better than
Speaker 1: the attention that he got while he was here, and
Speaker 1: probably even with you guys too. But very good football player,
Speaker 1: very steady consistent. Um, you know. So I can't say
Speaker 1: enough geting things about Dontegas. There's Gus Melson, head coach
Speaker 1: of the Auburn Tigers. The full visit available on Jaguars
Speaker 1: dot com. The video if you'd like to look at
Speaker 1: us in that conversation, available on the team website. Thanks
Speaker 1: to the Auburn Sports Information Department for making that happen
Speaker 1: as well. We're back in a moment. We'll hear from
Speaker 1: senior writer John Osier and get his thoughts on what
Speaker 1: has happened for the Jaguars in the NFL Draft and
Speaker 1: maybe some of this Dalton business as well. That's all
Speaker 1: coming up and we'll go around the National Football League
Speaker 1: a little bit later as well. Plenty ahead of this
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Speaker 1: it down. John. What are you make of this? Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton buzz on social media. I guess we kind of
Speaker 1: saw this coming when he was cut. But do you think,
Speaker 1: you know, log seems to think that it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: a bad idea depending on the price. Yeah, it makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. I mean, it's uh anything taking
Speaker 1: it makes sense, not necessarily because the iford nexting so much,
Speaker 1: but you know, clearly Jay Gruden has spend time with Dalton.
Speaker 1: It's probably a comfort level there. Uh, and I sent
Speaker 1: throughout the if you off season, We talked about it.
Speaker 1: They have hope in Minshew and they have reason to hope.
Speaker 1: But you know, as much as I like and as
Speaker 1: much as I hope too, there were long stretches last
Speaker 1: year where Minshew really struggled and even in some of
Speaker 1: the winds, you know, there were long periods of half
Speaker 1: that if if that would happen again, which I don't
Speaker 1: think it will, but if it would, do you want
Speaker 1: your backup to be Dobbs and a rookie? You know?
Speaker 1: I think it still feels like they would like there
Speaker 1: to be some alternatives there, and uh, you know, to
Speaker 1: meet Dalton for that reason makes sense. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they didn't go after other guys because they assume
Speaker 1: that Dalton would come available this way, that seems like
Speaker 1: a little bit of a reach, because you can't always
Speaker 1: assume things like that. I don't know that would have
Speaker 1: precluded from going after somebody else, but I can't help
Speaker 1: but think that get the relationship with Gruden wouldn't help
Speaker 1: on that front. I guess the other part of it
Speaker 1: as a cost, like what's what's he really expecting? And
Speaker 1: the market can't be crazy for him. Now, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: think based on what Winston got in in New Orleans. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean you know in uh but you never know
Speaker 1: how that plays out. You know, you would have necessarily
Speaker 1: thought that Jaguars would have a would get a fourth
Speaker 1: for Fold when other teams couldn't get anything for New
Speaker 1: you know. So the quarterback market sometimes doesn't play by
Speaker 1: the same rules as the rest of the market because
Speaker 1: it's quarterback. But if you get him for reasonable um,
Speaker 1: you know, no matter what people might think and say,
Speaker 1: And this is not a rebuild, this is not a
Speaker 1: tank for Trevor. There's none of that is reality to
Speaker 1: the people making decisions for this team. So if they
Speaker 1: think that Dalton is a guy who can give them
Speaker 1: a good chance, and if they want to and they
Speaker 1: think he's the right fit, then absolutely I think it
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, the the whole tanking argument is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't tank because you get fired this
Speaker 1: year if you tank well and even you know, to me,
Speaker 1: it looks no further than Miami last year to know
Speaker 1: that it's it's ridiculous. This is a team that I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody in the media who was close to that team
Speaker 1: was sure that they were tanking, And it almost felt
Speaker 1: when you read the reports, and I know some of
Speaker 1: the reporters down they have done a long time, it
Speaker 1: felt like they were hearing it from the inside. They
Speaker 1: were so confident. You know, there's a different kind of
Speaker 1: reporting when you're hearing the stores well, guess what, once
Speaker 1: floor has got there. And once those players started playing,
Speaker 1: they didn't want to lose sixteen games. So it's why
Speaker 1: try when it's out of your control? Are you gonna
Speaker 1: try to lose sixteen? What another team was the sixteen?
Speaker 1: So I just think it's uh, especially with this roster
Speaker 1: right now. JP. If you look at the roster on
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, you've got Minshoe and three really good young
Speaker 1: players Taylor uh Shark and uh I'm Jonah and Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: plus Miles Jack plus now five or six rookies who
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna make huge impact and Brandon Linder
Speaker 1: and Norma. This is not the two thousand thirteen Jaguars,
Speaker 1: where when I looked at me, I thought, boy, where
Speaker 1: did they compete? Every every roster spot has either a
Speaker 1: good player or a potentially very good player prime pick.
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't see the tanking thing beyond
Speaker 1: the fact they traded some veterans who I think most
Speaker 1: of those veterans, people who know football, don't think they
Speaker 1: were close to being in their prime anyway. So I
Speaker 1: don't know that they're worse than last year. I just
Speaker 1: don't think they are. It is a lot of youth
Speaker 1: coming in though, John Ozan with US Jaguars dot Com
Speaker 1: senior writer here on Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon.
Speaker 1: But yeah, twelve draft picks, eighteen undrafted rookie free agents signed,
Speaker 1: So that's dirty rookies on the roster right now for
Speaker 1: this football team. And there's a lot of youth, and
Speaker 1: as we know, John, a lot of times a lot
Speaker 1: of youth means a lot of els. But as you said,
Speaker 1: there there are some some of the early round draft
Speaker 1: picks especially, that are going to be expected to jump
Speaker 1: in and make an impact. Whether they do or not,
Speaker 1: that's you know, we'll see, but that's where they are
Speaker 1: right now. It's a young, gonna be a young football team.
Speaker 1: Outside of even this draft class and this rookie class,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's still impact players that are very young
Speaker 1: on this team. Well, when I say, I don't grasp
Speaker 1: the tanking thing, and I don't grasp why people think
Speaker 1: this team is gonna go up one and fifteen. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they're a double digit win team yet. I
Speaker 1: just think there is a place between two and fourteen
Speaker 1: and ten and six that this team has a chance
Speaker 1: to settle. It was six and ten last year. I
Speaker 1: think the run defense is much better than it was
Speaker 1: last year, and that to me was where everything split
Speaker 1: off the table last year. Beyond that, they were a
Speaker 1: relatively competitive team. So does in talking to him clearly
Speaker 1: like the idea, and he's hit on this team. He's
Speaker 1: hit on this team every time he talked publicly. He's
Speaker 1: excited about having a bunch of guys who were all
Speaker 1: pulling in the same direction without a lot of outside stuff.
Speaker 1: And there might be, you know, to say what you
Speaker 1: want about Jan and Leonard and all the trade stuff.
Speaker 1: Might be a few guys who have some lingering issues,
Speaker 1: But overall, I think you would agree jp this locker
Speaker 1: room next year, it if and when we're walking into
Speaker 1: it is going to feel like it's pulling in a
Speaker 1: new direction. And I don't know how you I don't
Speaker 1: know what Handel we can say about that, but it
Speaker 1: feels like it's Josh Allen, J One Taylor, D J.
Speaker 1: Chart Gardner, Minshew's team and it's gonna be pulling in
Speaker 1: their direction. And I think the organization is excited about that. Uh.
Speaker 1: We talked a lot over the weekend on Zoom JP.
Speaker 1: It feels like this draft is going to be looked
Speaker 1: back on as a see change, new direction draft. We'll
Speaker 1: see if the players can live up to that. John Ozan,
Speaker 1: the Jaguars dot Com senior writer here on Jaguars Happy,
Speaker 1: our last couple of minutes with you here, John, So,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you of the twelve draft picks, what
Speaker 1: was the Jaguar's best selection, maybe the best value, the
Speaker 1: one that made the most sense. And then what was
Speaker 1: a pick that made you go hmm? And then how
Speaker 1: do they get how do they prove that's the right call?
Speaker 1: You know? I think C. J. Henderson has been overlooked
Speaker 1: a little bit, maybe because he's a quiet guy, is
Speaker 1: not as fun to talk to as I chased on
Speaker 1: Or or Quarterman. But he'd better be your best selection.
Speaker 1: And this is a guy who's job it is very quickly.
Speaker 1: You know, most secondaries in the NFL aren't as loaded
Speaker 1: as the Jaguars were in two thousand seventeen. They've usually
Speaker 1: got one premier guy who can take away the side
Speaker 1: of the field. Let the other guys double there, guys, etcetera.
Speaker 1: Very quickly. He needs to be He was only taking
Speaker 1: four spots below Jail. You know, this is not like
Speaker 1: this is a low first round draft pick when you're yeah,
Speaker 1: when you're picked in the top ten at a corner,
Speaker 1: that's relatively rare. So you know, I think he has
Speaker 1: the trait. They love this guy and it's become vogue
Speaker 1: in the last three or four days. Talked about the
Speaker 1: rest of the draft class. But I think he's the
Speaker 1: guy that will certainly be watching more than any because
Speaker 1: he's the guy who has to come through. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there was a pick that surprised me as
Speaker 1: much as in fact, they didn't go running back at
Speaker 1: some point, um. I thought, even beyond the Leonard Fournette stuff,
Speaker 1: whatever happens there, it felt to me before the draft
Speaker 1: like they needed that change of pace um at a
Speaker 1: missability guy, whatever that means. It felt like that was
Speaker 1: going to be a pick, and apparently they feel good
Speaker 1: about Armstead. They feel good about Leonard Fournette's ability to
Speaker 1: do that. Um, you wonder if free agent released during
Speaker 1: training camp, guy in running back, which often happens, could
Speaker 1: be a guy like that for a year. But I
Speaker 1: was a little surprised fourth round didn't include that. I
Speaker 1: was very vocal for the draft that I thought. I
Speaker 1: thought that's where they would address that, and they didn't.
Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com senior writer John Osan So the drafts
Speaker 1: over the off season program has got that right. The
Speaker 1: official start of the off season program was here, So
Speaker 1: that means there's meetings and stuff going on virtually. So
Speaker 1: what now for you? What's what's the coverage like for
Speaker 1: you on the team site coming up in the next
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I think all of us are doing
Speaker 1: the same thing, trying to reach out to as many
Speaker 1: college coaches, Jaguars assistant trying to get a feel for
Speaker 1: this draft class. I we're starting what we call the
Speaker 1: ozone podcast, and we talked to who try to go, yeah,
Speaker 1: try to go a little deeper, you know, some in
Speaker 1: depth type stuff interviews, which I like to do. You
Speaker 1: told anybody about this yet? I don't think this is public. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is breaking news. Uh. You know we've talked about
Speaker 1: it amongst ourselves, right, but not publicly. Not but not
Speaker 1: on a radio show. That's true, true, So we'll be
Speaker 1: trying to do that and I will see that. God
Speaker 1: hope to have Michael Silver on the next week h
Speaker 1: to talk a little about what he's still in the draft.
Speaker 1: And it's always good to talk to Mike anyway. He's
Speaker 1: he's a good NFL guy. So we'll we'll try that
Speaker 1: and on weeks I can't get those people. I've got
Speaker 1: some neighbors who are pretty interesting. Hey, hey, Ted, let's talk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. We're gonna try to use
Speaker 1: this down down time of time where we don't have
Speaker 1: access to players inside the building. Two. Uh, you reach
Speaker 1: out and maybe try it with something new. Looking forward
Speaker 1: to that, John good Stuff is always going to talk
Speaker 1: to you and we'll catch up with you soon. I'm sure.
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Speaker 1: Live video walk throughs thanks to Jeff Logavan, Jaguars analysts
Speaker 1: who joined us in the opening segment. Today. Auburn head
Speaker 1: coach gust malson we call up over a zoom yesterday.
Speaker 1: The full conversation available on Jaguars dot com. Go to
Speaker 1: visit with coach Melson and discussed Daniel Thomas and much
Speaker 1: more about the Auburn Tigers program that's going. You heard
Speaker 1: in that interview that they've had over the last three
Speaker 1: draft classes sixteen players drafted. That's the second most in
Speaker 1: a three year period for Auburn since nineteen eighty nine
Speaker 1: to ninety one when they had twenty and that span
Speaker 1: that's a long time ago, so things are going well.
Speaker 1: That's part of program health, let's say, and in college
Speaker 1: football is how many players are putting out. And of course,
Speaker 1: when you put that many players out, you've got to
Speaker 1: have some players to come in and play behind them.
Speaker 1: That's the next step. And that's the challenge for programs
Speaker 1: that are successful and sending guys out to the National
Speaker 1: Football League, how can they fill those spots and move
Speaker 1: on and move forward. And it always kind of feels
Speaker 1: like coach Mazan has a little bit of a hot
Speaker 1: seat at Auburn, which a lot of times it is
Speaker 1: a hot seat, but he's maintained and they've won a
Speaker 1: lot of football games in his time at Auburn, and
Speaker 1: Daniel Thomas was a big part of that the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. He's now Jacksonville Jaguar. We caught up
Speaker 1: today and that's not out yet. You'll hear the full
Speaker 1: interview next week on Jaguars dot com. Melt Tucker is
Speaker 1: now the head coach at Michigan State. Last year he
Speaker 1: was the head coach at Colorado, the Buffaloes head coach.
Speaker 1: He's a former Jaguars defensive coordinator. Of course, from two
Speaker 1: thousand nine to twelve. Then he went on to the
Speaker 1: Bears for a couple of years as the d C.
Speaker 1: Was at Alabama for a year as the defensive backs coach,
Speaker 1: and it was the freshman year for Ronnie Harrison, by
Speaker 1: the way, and you'll you'll hear that conversation on Monday
Speaker 1: as well. And then it was on to Georgia for
Speaker 1: some successful years of the Bulldogs as the defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: and then on to Colorado as the head coach last year.
Speaker 1: That means Lavisca Chennault was under his head coaching staff
Speaker 1: last year and they used him a lot of different
Speaker 1: ways on the field. With the question I had for
Speaker 1: him was what is Labisca like off the field? He's
Speaker 1: a he's a really quiet guy and uh and really
Speaker 1: until he gets to know you, um and uh. So
Speaker 1: when I first got to Motor, he was, you know,
Speaker 1: very shy and uh and so it was a kind
Speaker 1: of a process of him opening up, you know, once
Speaker 1: he got to know me and the staff and uh.
Speaker 1: But once he kind of got used to us and
Speaker 1: kind of found out what we were all about, and
Speaker 1: he's great, you know, and he's, like I said, he's
Speaker 1: a fun guy. He's always got smile on his face.
Speaker 1: He loves his team as he loves his coaches. He competes,
Speaker 1: he practices hard um, you know, but for people you
Speaker 1: know initially that he's not familiar with, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: he's gonna be quiet's gonna be reserved. He's got the
Speaker 1: he's got the braids. You know, they'll be covering his
Speaker 1: face every now and then. But he'll he'll he'll come
Speaker 1: out of it eventually. And uh and you guys will
Speaker 1: work well together and we'll see what Labisca has. The
Speaker 1: offer sounds like a lot for the Jaguars team, the
Speaker 1: second round pick out of Colorado. There thanks to Melt
Speaker 1: Tucker full visit coming up next week on Jaguars dot Com.
Speaker 1: Time to go around the National Football League and we
Speaker 1: start off in Green Bay, Wisconsin, where the Packers selected
Speaker 1: Jordan's Love last Thursday in the first round. They moved
Speaker 1: up four rounds to get him. So is this the
Speaker 1: beginning of the end for Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay? Well,
Speaker 1: Rogers has not made many appearances since then. He was
Speaker 1: out there socially a lot on social media, out and
Speaker 1: about as much as he can be in this time period,
Speaker 1: but he was out there a lot. Obviously you saw
Speaker 1: him everywhere, but that does not happened much. But apparently
Speaker 1: he talked to Brett Farve, and now Brett Farve was
Speaker 1: talking to a lot of the media folks. So Farve
Speaker 1: said that basically disrespect would be a term maybe too
Speaker 1: um describe what Rogers is feeling. Well, hey, that's part
Speaker 1: of the NFL, and and they've got to move figure
Speaker 1: out the next step of the quarterback position. And it
Speaker 1: may not be this year, may not be the next
Speaker 1: two years, but a couple of years down the line,
Speaker 1: it might be time to move on from Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: And if you remember the same thing happened when Brett
Speaker 1: Farve was the quarterback there. Rogers comes in late first
Speaker 1: round it and but had to sit on the bench
Speaker 1: for a couple of three years under far Far notoriously
Speaker 1: did not really uh go out of his way to
Speaker 1: help Aaron Rodgers in that tutor in process that I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's even the right term up there
Speaker 1: for what happened, but uh, it moved on and far
Speaker 1: Far at some point moved on. They moved on from
Speaker 1: far We ended up in Minnesota and and the rest
Speaker 1: is history, and then Rogers has been the quarterback from that.
Speaker 1: So interesting stuff there from the Green Bay Packers. We
Speaker 1: heard earlier today the Bengals released Andy Dalton after nine seasons.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is the new sheriff in town there and
Speaker 1: the Jaguars immediately were one of those team names thrown
Speaker 1: around for consideration for Andy Dalton. And hearing from Jeff
Speaker 1: Loghman and John Osier in this program today, it's it
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense with the offensive cornator j
Speaker 1: Gruden here now he was there three years and Cincinnati
Speaker 1: with Dalton the first three years Dalton was there. They
Speaker 1: won a lot of football games in those times, not
Speaker 1: a lot of playoff games, not any, but they got there.
Speaker 1: They were in the hunt, they were in the mix,
Speaker 1: and they had some things going in Cincinnati for a
Speaker 1: little while. We'll see what Dave Caldwell has up his sleeve,
Speaker 1: if anything. Rob Gronkowski has joined Tom Brady and Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: But he boasted this week about having the Bucks playbook early.
Speaker 1: The only problem is that that was while he was
Speaker 1: still under control of the New England Patriots. He has
Speaker 1: since said he was joking. Well, um, Always interesting to
Speaker 1: see what Rob Gronkowski has to say, and this is
Speaker 1: not breaking news. It shouldn't be breaking news. It should
Speaker 1: be a well dumb moment. More than anything, the chiefs
Speaker 1: of exercise the fifth year option on Patrick Mahomes, a
Speaker 1: quarterback the Super Bowl champions last year in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is going nowhere for a long long time.
Speaker 1: At some point they will extend him and and do
Speaker 1: all of that. Oh, that'll do it for our program today,
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour thanks to Jeff Logman. So before we
Speaker 1: get going here, uh, the three cheers segment is back.
Speaker 1: Three cheers on Happy Hour to the Jaguars I T Department.
Speaker 1: They did a great job over the draft last week
Speaker 1: with a football side, with with the broadcast side, getting
Speaker 1: everybody connected, keeping them connected, and the I T Department
Speaker 1: should get cheers for their contribution to the Jaguars draft
Speaker 1: thanks to Jeff Lockman, or thanks to Gus Melson on
Speaker 1: the Albert Tigers, John Osier and our entire crew on
Speaker 1: JP Shadrick. That'll do it for Jaguars Happy Hour. We'll
Speaker 1: catch you next week on the Jaguars Digital Network.