WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, April 30 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:09.520 It is Thursday, April thirty. This is Jack Bars Happy 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:14.160 Hour and now a guy who promises to work hard, 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:20.880 don't matter where. He's broadcasting from Jay Peace and Welcome 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:26.760 in Jaguars Happy Hour on April, final day of the month, 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:30.960 May tomorrow. Yes, today's Thursday. First of all, if you 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:33.159 haven't you lost track, I think a lot of us 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.440 might have by this time. And it is the final 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:38.599 day of a Welcome in. J P. Shadwick with you. 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:42.120 We've got quite a show today. Jack channelis Jeff Loguman 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.520 coming up shortly Auburn head coach Gus Melson. We caught 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:48.440 up over a zoom call yesterday. It's available on the 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:50.960 team website. You'll hear a portion of that coming up 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:54.040 in a little while to discuss Daniel Thomas, the Jaguars 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.480 safety draft pick, the fifth round draft pick this year. 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.480 Senior writer John Oshan joins us will recap the draft 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:03.680 and get into this Andy Dalton business. He was cut 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.040 by the Bengals today and that's the talk online and 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.520 on social media is that maybe the Jags could be 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:12.280 in consideration. We'll go around the National Football League as well, 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.080 and we'll hear a preview of next week's visit with 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:19.680 Mel Tucker, former Jaguars defensive coordinator now the head coach 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:23.480 at Michigan State who just got the job in February. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:27.520 But will delve into la Visca Chenault, his former wide 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:32.679 receiver slash offensive weapon type guy at Colorado last year. 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.080 That's coming up a little bit later in the show. Today, 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.840 let's go to the phone lines immediately right out of 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.759 the gate, and he he leads us off this week 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:45.920 is Jaguars analyst Jeff Laguma. Jeff, Good, afternoon. It's nice 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.920 to leadoff for one. Well, you've always done such a 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.279 great job as the anchor leg of the show bringing 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.160 us on home in the right way that you know what, 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.480 we've got to move it around this week, and and 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.440 you're gonna you're gonna get on base for us. We're 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.440 gonna get your over and get you in. How about that. No, 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:04.800 it's good at and I know there's there's plenty to 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.960 talk about, but the draft having just been completed, and 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:13.000 and also many underrafted rookies agree to terms with the Jaguar, 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.160 So yeah, it's gonna be there's gonna be a lot 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.959 of new faces that are gonna be wearing teal and 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.760 black when in camp eventually opened. I hope you know 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.360 that's a lot that's so at thirty rookies, eighteen signees 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:30.640 after the draft, twelve draft picks, and then who knows 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:32.960 in free agency, and there's a couple of churning spots 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:34.799 as this goes on here, before we get to the 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.000 draft and the new guys and all that, Let's start 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:40.200 off with a big name of the day around the NFL, 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.720 and it's Andy Dalton, who was cut by the Cincinnati Bengals, 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.520 and it's on social media. Everybody's like a lot of 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.720 people are, hey, the Jags could be in consideration. Would 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:55.000 you dare Jeff signing Andy Dalton? Yeah, I mean I would. 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.079 I mean for a couple of reasons. One, he has 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:02.480 been a uh, a decent starter in the National Football League. 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:07.160 He's familiar with your offensive coordinator Gruden and uh and 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.440 he needs a job. And to be perfectly honest with you, 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.320 I don't think the Jaguars backup quarterback situation. This is 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:17.480 assuming obviously that Minshu is your starter. I don't. I 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:22.240 think that dobbs Is is a highly uh you know, 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.160 bought a backup quarterback in the National Football league. In fact, 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.480 there are some reports last year when Dobbs was in 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:33.919 practice that it wasn't very good. So you know, yeah, 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.320 I mean, I'm I'm all for the Jaguars going on out. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.280 If you asked me this a week ago, I would 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.800 have said, no, go out and draft you one, because 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.760 I thought that there was an opportunity to do that 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.000 early on this draft, and the Jaguars decided not to 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.480 do that. And I do understand that the Jaguars ended 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.839 up getting a quarterback late in the draft, but they 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.160 expect him to be a backup quarterback at some point 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.560 for the Jaguars this year. For Jake Luton. Is that 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:03.560 pronounced correctly? Yeah, Jake Luton Luton? You know, so yeah, 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.040 I expect him to be more of a developmental type 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.640 product project anyway, So yeah, I ain't. Dalton should absolutely 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.240 be on the Ars radar. You got to get through 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.600 a couple of things before that happened. Number One, Andy 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:19.200 Dalton has to realize that there's not another starting opportunity 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.600 in this league. Number one. And he's also got to 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.880 realize that the money is not gonna be at seventeen 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.640 eighteen million a year, you know, So, uh, he's got 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.120 to realize he's gonna be a backup. And number two, 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.599 he's got to realize that the pay is not gonna 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:38.400 be what it would have been if he had remained 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:41.359 under contract with the Cincinnati Bengal. We'll see what happens 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.279 Dave Coldwell has up his sleeve in the next couple 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.880 of days. With that, now that's all said and done, 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.200 let's go to the results of the NFL Draft. Let's 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.680 start in the first round. Two picks in the first round, 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.839 ninth overall, twenty overall. Uh C J. Henderson is the 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.840 pick at nine, the corner from Florida and defensive end 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.040 backer Caleb and chased on from l S. You two 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:07.599 defensive players early, and now you have the ability on 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:12.039 defense to have potential playmaking types at every level of 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.840 the defense. Likes Oh, you hope you know. And and 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.040 I really like Jason. I think he's got a great 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:21.960 motor and uh, you know, good for him to have 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:23.920 the year that he had last year, which was a good, 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:25.640 really good year. I don't want to say that a 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:27.400 great year, but a really good year coming off of 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:31.719 a knee that's impressed of love his motor, love his intensity. 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:36.160 He plays hard, he's got some some pass rush ability, 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.640 and with the situation within got Way kind of unknown 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.400 and what's going to happen with that, that makes that 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.440 a position of need. So I think it's a good fit. 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:49.680 Uh supposedly a high character guy, he's got some real 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:51.839 nice hips. He can bend it around the edge, and 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.960 you know, if the Jaguars end up having issues within 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.960 got Way or if he's even back in the fold now, 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:01.120 Chasan gives him, I think, an opportunity to be really 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.960 flexible as a defense to where they can play there 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.760 for three principles, but then also what they really wanted 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:08.640 to do last year but with the hold out of 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.520 a Gookway they didn't end up doing it, is to 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.400 get some of the three four principles on the field 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.799 and make it more prevalent because we saw a little 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.760 pieces of it last year as a defense, but we 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.760 never really saw it to where it became a bulk 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:24.839 of a game plan. And I think if you have 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.159 time to prepare, which now we're looking at no all 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.760 season stuff, you know, but if you can get into 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.000 camp and have a camp to where you can prepare 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.799 for that flexibility, I sure would be nice and create 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:40.839 a lot of headaches for offensive coordinators. Loves the nuances 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.760 of the differences of four three, three four. It can 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.320 be I mean, obviously a linebacker would maybe come up 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:50.120 on the ball, but it's really the spacing upfront has 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:51.920 a lot to do with it too. It's not just 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:56.520 hate JP, to be honest with you, Sometimes when I 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.479 watch the someone sitting, they're going, is this the three 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.840 four or is this a four or three? Because so 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.880 many principles where the three four are used in a 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:08.880 four three and vice versa. So, uh, there's not a 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.120 lot of difference, but uh, it just makes it a 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.640 little bit more unpredictable, you know. The where I think 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.160 your blitz package has become a little bit more varied 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.960 when you're running a three four and you have that 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.360 personnel on the field where you've got some guys that 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:27.760 can cover, uh that also can rush or cover. So yeah, 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.680 I think I think it's nice to have that flexibility. 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.600 And I like to pick up C. J. Henderson of 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:34.800 what I'd like to be able to get a little 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.080 bit farther down in the first round to get him. Yeah, 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.320 but I mean you probably say that about every guy 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:44.720 and he's fast, Uh, you know, so I'm looking forward 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:46.720 to seeing him in person. When I watched this film, 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:48.920 I will tell you I didn't see a whole lot 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.559 of difference between him, and I said this before the draft. 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.720 I didn't see a whole lot of difference between him 0:07:54.800 --> 0:08:00.840 and the quarterback from Ohio State, Esse Kuda, you know, 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.480 and the people had Okuda. It's like a top five, 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.920 and I'm going, well, and my my, by saying this, 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:10.760 I'm not saying that that Okuda should have been where 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.160 he is and that Henderson should have been higher. I 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.440 think Occuda should have been down a little bit because 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.680 I didn't think there was a that big of a 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:21.480 difference between Okuda and Henderson. So I'm I'm glad that 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.480 the Jaguars got one of the top two corners. That 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.160 was pretty much the consensus of all the different personnel 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:30.400 people around, because it's obviously it's a huge position of 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:34.480 need for the Jaguars, and uh boy, you've you've had 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:38.000 a couple of big subtractions, so adding a little bit 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:43.000 to that equation certainly helps. Jeff Loggingman, with US Jaguars analyst, 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:47.080 on Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon, the final 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.679 day of April let's go on to the second round. 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:54.600 Leavisca Chanault, junior wide receiver from Colorado, and he was 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.320 injured a couple of years ago. And you heard Dave 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.079 called well after the draft say, you know, if this 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.199 was a year ago, and you know, he might be 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.120 a first round consideration, high first round, one of the top, 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.800 if not the top receiver coming out. Um. The question 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.240 now is can he get back to that form? And 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.520 the Jaguars took a second round pick on him, so 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.960 they feel like he can. And it's not just a 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.880 wide receiver here, Logs. I caught up with Mel Tuckler 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.440 Mel Tucker earlier today. We'll hear that interview coming up 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.520 early next week. But the way you can move him around, 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.160 play him left, play him right, play him in the slot, 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.720 line him up in the backfield. That was what Colorado 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:32.880 did and it worked out pretty well. That's a good 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:36.280 weapon to have on offense, well on as tough as nails. 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.360 You know that. That's what I like. And you know 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.320 one of the I think the themes of this draft 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.160 for the Jaguars as a whole, I think character mattered. 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.160 I think in in pass here sometimes it might have 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.320 been pushed the side at times for certain guys where 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.960 there was you know, you could see maybe great value 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.760 in a guy, but I think characters at a premium. 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:58.800 And I think that this is also one of the 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.959 business strengths say is that he's a higher guy. And 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.000 I'm sure you had a chance to read the letter 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.880 that he wrote to the general managers around the National 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:10.360 Football League, and when a player does essentially it was 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.959 a letter that he wrote and talked about the injuries 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.240 that he fought through, talked about where he came from, 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.240 talked about his upbringing, talked about his parents, the death 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:20.960 of his father. I mean, there were all these different 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:22.680 things that he wrote in this letter to the NFL 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:24.959 general managers and you sit there and you read it 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:28.720 and you go wow. I mean, what a powerful thing 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.319 to have done. And I think it really good. It 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:35.240 shows I thought it showed great courage to be able 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.080 to do something like that, but also showed that he's 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.160 an accountable person and that's the type of players that 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.520 you want to have on your football team. And he's 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.760 a physical presence Jap. I mean he's big, you know, 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.120 he's a wide receiver. It's a done there, two hundred 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.880 thirty pounds and he's physical. You know, He's not one 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.520 of these wide receivers that once he catches it like 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.440 Marvin Harrison or Reggie Wayne used to when we saw 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.320 with the Indian that was called the only time that 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:00.160 he that he's gonna look for a place to go down. Um. 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:04.200 I mean, holy cow, he's different now. He likes to 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:09.000 bang and he likes to finish plays. So from from 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.440 that standpoint as a defensive player, I like those kind 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:16.520 of guys. Love. As you mentioned, the character aspect of 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.760 this thing, and that's been a storyline at the end 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:22.360 of the draft that basically all the guys picked, twelve 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:26.920 of them have clean backgrounds, are great off the field 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:30.600 according to their former coaches and teammates and everything. How 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:34.960 quickly and two questions here, I guess we logs how 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:38.360 much did this Jaguars locker room need that kind of 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:42.679 influx of character guys? And how quickly can you change 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:47.560 a locker room in the NFL? I mean, well, you 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.000 can change it quick now. I mean just cut a 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:53.680 few guys, trade a few guys, uh, you know, and 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.439 then you bring in higher character type of guys. But 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.320 I mean, holy cow, you go back JT to the 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.000 so some of the incidents that this team had, you know, 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:10.720 in twenty from off the field stuff to some of 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:12.720 the stuff that was on the field, it wasn't good, 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:17.000 you know, and it's hard to win that way. And 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:19.800 and I think if you look at the most successful 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:23.600 team in the National Football League, the Patriot, they never 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.440 really had any of those issues. I mean there were 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.960 some issues, but I mean they didn't have any distractions 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:33.240 during the season out of their players, whereas the Jaguars 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:38.560 and there seemed to be many. So I like that fact. 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.559 Then yes, you can change your culture in a hurry. 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:43.800 And I think it has to start at the top. 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.880 And then but when you bring in certain players, they 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.040 gotta have you gotta have guidelines, and then when you 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.120 bring them in here, there has to be an understanding. 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.480 And I'm sure that Doug Morone is gonna stress that out, 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:58.000 stress that to the highest point, because that's something that 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.840 I know that he feels very strongly out And and 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.800 I think that that was I don't want to say 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.680 that was all his doing. I think it was a 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:07.880 little bit of a combination of Dave called well and 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.120 we're both thinking, look, we need to do this right, 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:13.960 and here's an opportunity for us to do it right 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.520 with all these picks that we have. Let's change the culture. 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.600 And that's what they talked about, and I think that 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:23.720 that's part of of of being a winner, and that's 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:26.720 what has to change certainly with this football team. The 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:30.560 culture has to change. Accountability has to come up, and 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:32.760 the character needs to be there in order for a 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:36.000 lot of those things to happen. And certainly a lot 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.000 of those things need to have happen for this team 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:41.160 to win. Love's last couple of minutes with you here 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.400 going through the last day's worth of picks. So that 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.840 was eight picks on Saturday, busy day at the draft 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:51.120 room for Dave Caldwell and the and the crew uh 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.200 picking players for this team. So I'm gonna ask you 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:57.240 who you know maybe you might be your favorite right 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.400 out of the gate of the later round picks, I'm 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:03.120 picking a couple of different guys here, quarterman, the linebacker, 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:07.199 I think he has a chance downhill type of linebacker. Um. 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:11.160 And then the the one that I guess not surprised 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:14.160 but kind of made you go was the tight end 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.559 from Georgia Tech, Tyler Davis, and he was a transfer 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.480 in from yukon good numbers there went to Georgia Tech 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.000 and as a grand transfer last year. And this is 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.520 an offense in transition in Atlanta, remember because they played 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.640 the option, the triple option for ten years and then 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.440 fire Paul Johnson left. They bring in a new coach. 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.600 The offense is trying to figure out who's playing well. 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.240 They haven't had a tight end, a true tight end 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.840 on the roster really in a decade, so he didn't 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.840 get the ball a lot. If he can figure out 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.880 he can manage the blocking in the league and catch 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.320 the ball when it's thrown to him, those kind of 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.960 guys logs can have a lengthy career if they can 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.120 get through those early years of maturation in the NFL. 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.360 Those are my two favorites. What about you, Well, I 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.120 want to see him first, but you know, because I 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.400 haven't watched the film on the later round picks yet. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:05.240 But I will say this is that typically later round 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.400 picks or later round picks for a reason, And so 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.640 I usually get excited about some of your third in 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.840 your fourth round picks because I think that's where some 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.960 guys can really surprise you and all of a sudden, 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:23.600 go wow, how did somebody not take a flyer on 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.800 him in the first round of the second round because 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.480 he's a player. So I think the third in the 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.840 fourth round is where you find more of those guys 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:34.560 where you get really excited about, like the quarterback from 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:38.440 Michigan State, Scott you know either him also quarterman as 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:43.240 you mentioned, the linebacker from Miami and Daniel Thomas Alburn 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.880 the safety. I mean, those are guys that are right 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:47.960 there in that sweet spot of the draft where you're 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.440 looking at third, fourth and fifth rounders where they may 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:55.000 end up being certainly much better prospects than where they 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.080 were drafted at or their draft status, and you get 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.160 a little bit tired of hearing all the person all 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:03.120 guys talk about all their draft picks and boh, we 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.000 had a first round grade at them, and we were 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:09.040 fortunate to get him in the third round. Sometimes when 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.920 you hear that, you sit there and you go, that's 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.360 a little ridiculous. But in some cases, look, that's the 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.000 belief that they have and guys, and sometimes that plays out, 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.680 and a lot of times it doesn't play out. You 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.480 end up seeing a guy who's drafted in the second round. 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.000 We shouldn't have been drafted in the fourth round, you know, 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.680 so uh so for me, in that sweet spot of 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.800 that third fourth round, that's where you really look to 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.520 find some guys that look at it happens, but it's 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.720 happened before to where all sudden JP in the sixth 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.880 round or seventh round pick all sudden turns into a 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:40.200 really good football player. But the percentage is just don't there. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:44.120 It's funny. You've never heard a college coach say, you know, 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:48.200 we had a decent recruiting class, it was okay this year. 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.280 You've never heard of GM or coach say, yeah, our 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:54.240 draft classes, yeah they're okay. You know, they're always great, 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.640 and this one has a chance to turn it around 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.880 if you can hit on some of these guests. Well. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.760 And I think the one thing that became very apparent 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.879 after the draft was over that this football team and 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.879 the organization as a whole has gone all in on 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.439 Gardner Minshew. I mean, I mean, I think that's the 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:15.760 that's probably one of the biggest headlines that has come 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:18.919 out of this draft for this football team. And is 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.640 that the right thing? I don't know that. I don't 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:23.720 know the answer to that. Only the future will tell that. 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.040 But there was an opportunity there in the first round 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.359 for the Jaguars to be able to select a quarterback. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:33.600 Whether it been early on at nine or sometime later on, 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.000 you know, they had a chance to do that. So 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.800 uh it definitely certainly tells people that, hey, Minshew is 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.679 the mania, and we got the mania here in the 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:44.639 in the front office, and we got the mania. The 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:48.520 head coach's office loves good stuff. You are a pretty 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.360 good lead off hit. Or I'll say, hey, I try 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:55.320 my best, dipty, I tried my best. In next week, Well, 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.639 I've had an opportunity to watch some of the film 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:01.440 on some of these these uh fourth them later of 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.639 the round and we can go in a little bit 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:07.560 of detail. I might give you a name of a guy. 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.239 Watch out. This guy is who I'm really excited about. Oh, 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.400 I can't wait. That's a week away from today. We'll 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.400 hear from Logs again. Uh, thank you, Loggs. We'll talk 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:20.879 to you then. Alright, plenty still to come on. Jaguars 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:24.160 Happy Hour will return with a visit with Gus mal Zan. 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.639 He's the head coach of the Auburn Tigers, and we 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:30.040 caught up on a zoom conference yesterday. The video available 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:33.639 on Jaguars dot Com. 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