1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April thirty. This is Jack Bars Happy 2 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Hour and now a guy who promises to work hard, 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: don't matter where. He's broadcasting from Jay Peace and Welcome 4 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: in Jaguars Happy Hour on April, final day of the month, 5 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: May tomorrow. Yes, today's Thursday. First of all, if you 6 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: haven't you lost track, I think a lot of us 7 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: might have by this time. And it is the final 8 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: day of a Welcome in. J P. Shadwick with you. 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: We've got quite a show today. Jack channelis Jeff Loguman 10 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: coming up shortly Auburn head coach Gus Melson. We caught 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: up over a zoom call yesterday. It's available on the 12 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: team website. You'll hear a portion of that coming up 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: in a little while to discuss Daniel Thomas, the Jaguars 14 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: safety draft pick, the fifth round draft pick this year. 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: Senior writer John Oshan joins us will recap the draft 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: and get into this Andy Dalton business. He was cut 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: by the Bengals today and that's the talk online and 18 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: on social media is that maybe the Jags could be 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: in consideration. We'll go around the National Football League as well, 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: and we'll hear a preview of next week's visit with 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: Mel Tucker, former Jaguars defensive coordinator now the head coach 22 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: at Michigan State who just got the job in February. 23 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: But will delve into la Visca Chenault, his former wide 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: receiver slash offensive weapon type guy at Colorado last year. 25 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: That's coming up a little bit later in the show. Today, 26 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: let's go to the phone lines immediately right out of 27 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: the gate, and he he leads us off this week 28 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: is Jaguars analyst Jeff Laguma. Jeff, Good, afternoon. It's nice 29 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: to leadoff for one. Well, you've always done such a 30 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,279 Speaker 1: great job as the anchor leg of the show bringing 31 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: us on home in the right way that you know what, 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: we've got to move it around this week, and and 33 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna get on base for us. We're 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: gonna get your over and get you in. How about that. No, 35 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: it's good at and I know there's there's plenty to 36 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: talk about, but the draft having just been completed, and 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: and also many underrafted rookies agree to terms with the Jaguar, 38 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's gonna be there's gonna be a lot 39 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: of new faces that are gonna be wearing teal and 40 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: black when in camp eventually opened. I hope you know 41 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: that's a lot that's so at thirty rookies, eighteen signees 42 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: after the draft, twelve draft picks, and then who knows 43 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: in free agency, and there's a couple of churning spots 44 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: as this goes on here, before we get to the 45 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: draft and the new guys and all that, Let's start 46 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: off with a big name of the day around the NFL, 47 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: and it's Andy Dalton, who was cut by the Cincinnati Bengals, 48 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: and it's on social media. Everybody's like a lot of 49 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: people are, hey, the Jags could be in consideration. Would 50 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: you dare Jeff signing Andy Dalton? Yeah, I mean I would. 51 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: I mean for a couple of reasons. One, he has 52 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: been a uh, a decent starter in the National Football League. 53 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: He's familiar with your offensive coordinator Gruden and uh and 54 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: he needs a job. And to be perfectly honest with you, 55 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: I don't think the Jaguars backup quarterback situation. This is 56 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: assuming obviously that Minshu is your starter. I don't. I 57 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: think that dobbs Is is a highly uh you know, 58 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: bought a backup quarterback in the National Football league. In fact, 59 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: there are some reports last year when Dobbs was in 60 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: practice that it wasn't very good. So you know, yeah, 61 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm all for the Jaguars going on out. 62 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: If you asked me this a week ago, I would 63 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: have said, no, go out and draft you one, because 64 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: I thought that there was an opportunity to do that 65 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: early on this draft, and the Jaguars decided not to 66 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: do that. And I do understand that the Jaguars ended 67 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 1: up getting a quarterback late in the draft, but they 68 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: expect him to be a backup quarterback at some point 69 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars this year. For Jake Luton. Is that 70 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: pronounced correctly? Yeah, Jake Luton Luton? You know, so yeah, 71 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: I expect him to be more of a developmental type 72 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: product project anyway, So yeah, I ain't. Dalton should absolutely 73 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: be on the Ars radar. You got to get through 74 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: a couple of things before that happened. Number One, Andy 75 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: Dalton has to realize that there's not another starting opportunity 76 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: in this league. Number one. And he's also got to 77 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: realize that the money is not gonna be at seventeen 78 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: eighteen million a year, you know, So, uh, he's got 79 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: to realize he's gonna be a backup. And number two, 80 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: he's got to realize that the pay is not gonna 81 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: be what it would have been if he had remained 82 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: under contract with the Cincinnati Bengal. We'll see what happens 83 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: Dave Coldwell has up his sleeve in the next couple 84 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: of days. With that, now that's all said and done, 85 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: let's go to the results of the NFL Draft. Let's 86 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: start in the first round. Two picks in the first round, 87 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: ninth overall, twenty overall. Uh C J. Henderson is the 88 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: pick at nine, the corner from Florida and defensive end 89 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: backer Caleb and chased on from l S. You two 90 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: defensive players early, and now you have the ability on 91 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: defense to have potential playmaking types at every level of 92 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: the defense. Likes Oh, you hope you know. And and 93 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: I really like Jason. I think he's got a great 94 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: motor and uh, you know, good for him to have 95 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: the year that he had last year, which was a good, 96 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: really good year. I don't want to say that a 97 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: great year, but a really good year coming off of 98 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: a knee that's impressed of love his motor, love his intensity. 99 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: He plays hard, he's got some some pass rush ability, 100 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: and with the situation within got Way kind of unknown 101 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: and what's going to happen with that, that makes that 102 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: a position of need. So I think it's a good fit. 103 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: Uh supposedly a high character guy, he's got some real 104 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: nice hips. He can bend it around the edge, and 105 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, if the Jaguars end up having issues within 106 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: got Way or if he's even back in the fold now, 107 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: Chasan gives him, I think, an opportunity to be really 108 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: flexible as a defense to where they can play there 109 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: for three principles, but then also what they really wanted 110 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: to do last year but with the hold out of 111 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: a Gookway they didn't end up doing it, is to 112 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: get some of the three four principles on the field 113 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 1: and make it more prevalent because we saw a little 114 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: pieces of it last year as a defense, but we 115 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: never really saw it to where it became a bulk 116 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: of a game plan. And I think if you have 117 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: time to prepare, which now we're looking at no all 118 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: season stuff, you know, but if you can get into 119 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: camp and have a camp to where you can prepare 120 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 1: for that flexibility, I sure would be nice and create 121 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: a lot of headaches for offensive coordinators. Loves the nuances 122 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: of the differences of four three, three four. It can 123 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: be I mean, obviously a linebacker would maybe come up 124 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: on the ball, but it's really the spacing upfront has 125 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: a lot to do with it too. It's not just 126 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: hate JP, to be honest with you, Sometimes when I 127 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: watch the someone sitting, they're going, is this the three 128 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: four or is this a four or three? Because so 129 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: many principles where the three four are used in a 130 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: four three and vice versa. So, uh, there's not a 131 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: lot of difference, but uh, it just makes it a 132 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: little bit more unpredictable, you know. The where I think 133 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: your blitz package has become a little bit more varied 134 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: when you're running a three four and you have that 135 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: personnel on the field where you've got some guys that 136 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: can cover, uh that also can rush or cover. So yeah, 137 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: I think I think it's nice to have that flexibility. 138 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: And I like to pick up C. J. Henderson of 139 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: what I'd like to be able to get a little 140 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: bit farther down in the first round to get him. Yeah, 141 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: but I mean you probably say that about every guy 142 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: and he's fast, Uh, you know, so I'm looking forward 143 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: to seeing him in person. When I watched this film, 144 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: I will tell you I didn't see a whole lot 145 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,559 Speaker 1: of difference between him, and I said this before the draft. 146 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: I didn't see a whole lot of difference between him 147 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: and the quarterback from Ohio State, Esse Kuda, you know, 148 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: and the people had Okuda. It's like a top five, 149 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: and I'm going, well, and my my, by saying this, 150 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that Okuda should have been where 151 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: he is and that Henderson should have been higher. I 152 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: think Occuda should have been down a little bit because 153 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: I didn't think there was a that big of a 154 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: difference between Okuda and Henderson. So I'm I'm glad that 155 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: the Jaguars got one of the top two corners. That 156 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: was pretty much the consensus of all the different personnel 157 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: people around, because it's obviously it's a huge position of 158 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: need for the Jaguars, and uh boy, you've you've had 159 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: a couple of big subtractions, so adding a little bit 160 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: to that equation certainly helps. Jeff Loggingman, with US Jaguars analyst, 161 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: on Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon, the final 162 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: day of April let's go on to the second round. 163 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: Leavisca Chanault, junior wide receiver from Colorado, and he was 164 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: injured a couple of years ago. And you heard Dave 165 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: called well after the draft say, you know, if this 166 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: was a year ago, and you know, he might be 167 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: a first round consideration, high first round, one of the top, 168 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: if not the top receiver coming out. Um. The question 169 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: now is can he get back to that form? And 170 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: the Jaguars took a second round pick on him, so 171 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: they feel like he can. And it's not just a 172 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: wide receiver here, Logs. I caught up with Mel Tuckler 173 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: Mel Tucker earlier today. We'll hear that interview coming up 174 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: early next week. But the way you can move him around, 175 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: play him left, play him right, play him in the slot, 176 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: line him up in the backfield. That was what Colorado 177 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: did and it worked out pretty well. That's a good 178 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: weapon to have on offense, well on as tough as nails. 179 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: You know that. That's what I like. And you know 180 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: one of the I think the themes of this draft 181 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars as a whole, I think character mattered. 182 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: I think in in pass here sometimes it might have 183 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: been pushed the side at times for certain guys where 184 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: there was you know, you could see maybe great value 185 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: in a guy, but I think characters at a premium. 186 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: And I think that this is also one of the 187 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: business strengths say is that he's a higher guy. And 188 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure you had a chance to read the letter 189 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: that he wrote to the general managers around the National 190 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: Football League, and when a player does essentially it was 191 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: a letter that he wrote and talked about the injuries 192 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: that he fought through, talked about where he came from, 193 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: talked about his upbringing, talked about his parents, the death 194 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: of his father. I mean, there were all these different 195 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: things that he wrote in this letter to the NFL 196 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: general managers and you sit there and you read it 197 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: and you go wow. I mean, what a powerful thing 198 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: to have done. And I think it really good. It 199 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: shows I thought it showed great courage to be able 200 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: to do something like that, but also showed that he's 201 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: an accountable person and that's the type of players that 202 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: you want to have on your football team. And he's 203 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: a physical presence Jap. I mean he's big, you know, 204 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: he's a wide receiver. It's a done there, two hundred 205 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: thirty pounds and he's physical. You know, He's not one 206 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: of these wide receivers that once he catches it like 207 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison or Reggie Wayne used to when we saw 208 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: with the Indian that was called the only time that 209 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: he that he's gonna look for a place to go down. Um. 210 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: I mean, holy cow, he's different now. He likes to 211 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: bang and he likes to finish plays. So from from 212 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: that standpoint as a defensive player, I like those kind 213 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: of guys. Love. As you mentioned, the character aspect of 214 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: this thing, and that's been a storyline at the end 215 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: of the draft that basically all the guys picked, twelve 216 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: of them have clean backgrounds, are great off the field 217 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: according to their former coaches and teammates and everything. How 218 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: quickly and two questions here, I guess we logs how 219 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: much did this Jaguars locker room need that kind of 220 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: influx of character guys? And how quickly can you change 221 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: a locker room in the NFL? I mean, well, you 222 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: can change it quick now. I mean just cut a 223 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: few guys, trade a few guys, uh, you know, and 224 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: then you bring in higher character type of guys. But 225 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: I mean, holy cow, you go back JT to the 226 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: so some of the incidents that this team had, you know, 227 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: in twenty from off the field stuff to some of 228 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: the stuff that was on the field, it wasn't good, 229 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, and it's hard to win that way. And 230 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: and I think if you look at the most successful 231 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: team in the National Football League, the Patriot, they never 232 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: really had any of those issues. I mean there were 233 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: some issues, but I mean they didn't have any distractions 234 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: during the season out of their players, whereas the Jaguars 235 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: and there seemed to be many. So I like that fact. 236 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: Then yes, you can change your culture in a hurry. 237 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: And I think it has to start at the top. 238 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: And then but when you bring in certain players, they 239 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: gotta have you gotta have guidelines, and then when you 240 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: bring them in here, there has to be an understanding. 241 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: And I'm sure that Doug Morone is gonna stress that out, 242 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: stress that to the highest point, because that's something that 243 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: I know that he feels very strongly out And and 244 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: I think that that was I don't want to say 245 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: that was all his doing. I think it was a 246 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: little bit of a combination of Dave called well and 247 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: we're both thinking, look, we need to do this right, 248 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: and here's an opportunity for us to do it right 249 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: with all these picks that we have. Let's change the culture. 250 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: And that's what they talked about, and I think that 251 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: that's part of of of being a winner, and that's 252 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: what has to change certainly with this football team. The 253 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: culture has to change. Accountability has to come up, and 254 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: the character needs to be there in order for a 255 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: lot of those things to happen. And certainly a lot 256 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: of those things need to have happen for this team 257 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: to win. Love's last couple of minutes with you here 258 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: going through the last day's worth of picks. So that 259 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: was eight picks on Saturday, busy day at the draft 260 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: room for Dave Caldwell and the and the crew uh 261 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: picking players for this team. So I'm gonna ask you 262 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: who you know maybe you might be your favorite right 263 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: out of the gate of the later round picks, I'm 264 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: picking a couple of different guys here, quarterman, the linebacker, 265 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: I think he has a chance downhill type of linebacker. Um. 266 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: And then the the one that I guess not surprised 267 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: but kind of made you go was the tight end 268 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: from Georgia Tech, Tyler Davis, and he was a transfer 269 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: in from yukon good numbers there went to Georgia Tech 270 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: and as a grand transfer last year. And this is 271 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: an offense in transition in Atlanta, remember because they played 272 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: the option, the triple option for ten years and then 273 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: fire Paul Johnson left. They bring in a new coach. 274 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: The offense is trying to figure out who's playing well. 275 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: They haven't had a tight end, a true tight end 276 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: on the roster really in a decade, so he didn't 277 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: get the ball a lot. If he can figure out 278 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: he can manage the blocking in the league and catch 279 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: the ball when it's thrown to him, those kind of 280 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: guys logs can have a lengthy career if they can 281 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: get through those early years of maturation in the NFL. 282 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: Those are my two favorites. What about you, Well, I 283 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: want to see him first, but you know, because I 284 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: haven't watched the film on the later round picks yet. 285 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: But I will say this is that typically later round 286 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: picks or later round picks for a reason, And so 287 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: I usually get excited about some of your third in 288 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: your fourth round picks because I think that's where some 289 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: guys can really surprise you and all of a sudden, 290 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: go wow, how did somebody not take a flyer on 291 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: him in the first round of the second round because 292 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: he's a player. So I think the third in the 293 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: fourth round is where you find more of those guys 294 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: where you get really excited about, like the quarterback from 295 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: Michigan State, Scott you know either him also quarterman as 296 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned, the linebacker from Miami and Daniel Thomas Alburn 297 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: the safety. I mean, those are guys that are right 298 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: there in that sweet spot of the draft where you're 299 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: looking at third, fourth and fifth rounders where they may 300 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: end up being certainly much better prospects than where they 301 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: were drafted at or their draft status, and you get 302 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: a little bit tired of hearing all the person all 303 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: guys talk about all their draft picks and boh, we 304 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: had a first round grade at them, and we were 305 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: fortunate to get him in the third round. Sometimes when 306 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: you hear that, you sit there and you go, that's 307 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: a little ridiculous. But in some cases, look, that's the 308 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: belief that they have and guys, and sometimes that plays out, 309 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: and a lot of times it doesn't play out. You 310 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: end up seeing a guy who's drafted in the second round. 311 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: We shouldn't have been drafted in the fourth round, you know, 312 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: so uh so for me, in that sweet spot of 313 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: that third fourth round, that's where you really look to 314 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: find some guys that look at it happens, but it's 315 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: happened before to where all sudden JP in the sixth 316 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: round or seventh round pick all sudden turns into a 317 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: really good football player. But the percentage is just don't there. 318 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: It's funny. You've never heard a college coach say, you know, 319 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: we had a decent recruiting class, it was okay this year. 320 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: You've never heard of GM or coach say, yeah, our 321 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: draft classes, yeah they're okay. You know, they're always great, 322 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: and this one has a chance to turn it around 323 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: if you can hit on some of these guests. Well. 324 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: And I think the one thing that became very apparent 325 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: after the draft was over that this football team and 326 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: the organization as a whole has gone all in on 327 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. I mean, I mean, I think that's the 328 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: that's probably one of the biggest headlines that has come 329 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: out of this draft for this football team. And is 330 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: that the right thing? I don't know that. I don't 331 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: know the answer to that. Only the future will tell that. 332 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: But there was an opportunity there in the first round 333 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars to be able to select a quarterback. 334 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: Whether it been early on at nine or sometime later on, 335 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, they had a chance to do that. So 336 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: uh it definitely certainly tells people that, hey, Minshew is 337 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: the mania, and we got the mania here in the 338 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: in the front office, and we got the mania. The 339 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: head coach's office loves good stuff. You are a pretty 340 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: good lead off hit. Or I'll say, hey, I try 341 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: my best, dipty, I tried my best. In next week, Well, 342 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: I've had an opportunity to watch some of the film 343 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: on some of these these uh fourth them later of 344 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: the round and we can go in a little bit 345 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: of detail. I might give you a name of a guy. 346 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 1: Watch out. This guy is who I'm really excited about. Oh, 347 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: I can't wait. That's a week away from today. We'll 348 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: hear from Logs again. Uh, thank you, Loggs. We'll talk 349 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: to you then. Alright, plenty still to come on. Jaguars 350 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: Happy Hour will return with a visit with Gus mal Zan. 351 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: He's the head coach of the Auburn Tigers, and we 352 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: caught up on a zoom conference yesterday. The video available 353 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot Com. A snippet of that conversation is 354 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: coming up shortly. 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Shadrick with you. Thanks for Jeff Logovan Jaguars 435 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: analysts for leading us off today. UH. Yesterday had a 436 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: chance to catch up with Auburn head coach gust Mills 437 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: on the The Jags selected Daniel Thomas safety out of 438 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: Auburn in the fifth round. Who's a strutter for the 439 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: Tigers the last two years. He's out of Lee High 440 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: School in Montgomery, and that was about to commits and 441 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: sign with Minnesota. You didn't have an offer from Auburn, 442 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: UH fifty miles away from Lee High School. And then 443 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: one of the corner one of the safeties they had 444 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: in that um that class that they thought at Auburn 445 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: decided to go elsewhere and signed with Tennessee so it 446 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: opened up a spot late in the recruiting process, right 447 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: before signing day. They went and saw him, offered him 448 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: a scholarship, and that was the school he wanted to 449 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 1: go to. So he ended up at Auburn. We'll here 450 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: coach males On here on that recruiting process, how he 451 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: developed over the years, and what kind of player the 452 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: Jaguars getting dust mals On here on Jaguars Happy Hour. 453 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: How has this been for your football program? No spring ball, 454 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: A lot of questions about the ball. How are your 455 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: staff and players getting along to this time? Yeah, obviously 456 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: it's been a unique time, I think for every one. 457 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: And you know, not having spring practice, our guys all 458 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: spread out. You know, probably about two weeks ago we 459 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: actually started getting a routine and our guys are finishing 460 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: up finals uh this week. And you know, staff wise, 461 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean, we're flipping the switch. We're thinking positive, we're 462 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: thinking about, you know, when we get our guys back 463 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: in the summer and getting ready to play the season. Coach, 464 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: sixteen players from your program have been drafted over the 465 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: last three years. That's the best from Auburn's from US 466 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: since to ninety one. That's a long time. Ago now, 467 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: but part of programs success, I as he was winning 468 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: football games, winning with a vision and winning the SEC 469 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: and and moving on from there. But seeing players go pro. 470 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: Six Auburn players drafted this year. That tells you a 471 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: lot about where your program is right now. Yeah, it 472 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: really does. We're very excited, um, you know about the 473 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: guys and the thing about it, the guys have been 474 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: drafted and very well at the next level. We had 475 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: six drafted this year. We had eight free agents, which 476 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a handful of those guys 477 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: are gonna have a real chance to make a team. 478 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: So real good uh time right now to be an 479 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: Auburn Tiger. A coach gust Malson with us from the 480 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: Auburn Tigers. Let's talk about Daniel Thomas and I was 481 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: reading about his recruitment stories. Pretty interesting. He was a 482 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: late addition to that signing class and was about to 483 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: go to Minnesota, of all places, a guy from Montgomery, 484 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: Alabama Lee High School was about to go to Minneapolis instead. 485 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: You bring him in late, take us through that process, 486 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: and how close of a call was that? Yeah, of 487 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: course he's right down the roads. We knew about him. 488 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: Brought him in an official bust the last week in 489 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: and you can just kind of tell his positive energy. 490 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: And got a chance to to meet his family that 491 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: weekend too, And so after he left, we wanted to 492 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: make this thing work, and luckily the numbers worked out, 493 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: we were able to make that call I think about 494 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: seven seven thirty Wednesday morning, and uh, you know, he 495 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: was overjoyed. His mom was on the phone crying. It 496 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: was a real special moment for him to be drafted. Now, 497 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just, uh, it's just a real special deal. 498 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: From that moment when he set foot on campus in 499 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: Auburn to now, how much did he grow. Let's start 500 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: off off the field as a person. What kind of 501 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: person did he become in those years? And I'll tell 502 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: you what you're getting an unbelievable leader. Uh, such a 503 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: positive person, a very spiritual person. I mean he'll he'll 504 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: send Bible verses out every day, you know, to the 505 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: team and the staff. He's our f C, a leader, 506 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: me my wife. We we take guys on mission trips 507 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: in the spring and he went back to back years 508 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: and just a wonderful human being that's gonna bring a 509 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: lot of positivity to that locker room Dust Mason with 510 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: his head coach of the Auburn Tigers. Now on the field, 511 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 1: he was paired up with Jeremiah Denson at the safety 512 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: position the last couple of years. It was a good 513 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: tag team combo in the back end of your defense. There. 514 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: He was second on the team and tackles the last 515 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: two years. What kind of player will the Jaguars get 516 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: at the safety position and on special teams as well. Yeah, 517 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: I call him the heat seeking messial. I mean, he 518 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: just has nose for the ball, and um, you know, 519 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: and he's a very good tackler, a good open field tackler, 520 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: a great competitor, and uh he's experienced. I mean, you're 521 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: talking about a guy that's been a lot of big games, 522 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: understands the game, understand situations. And you just said a 523 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: special things. He's one of our better special teams player. 524 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: And he took special teams just as you know, serious 525 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 1: as he did defense. And he was one of our 526 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: special teams leaders. And uh, you know, I can't say 527 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: enough good things about him. He's got a chance of 528 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: playing in the league a long long time. What was 529 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: the best moment that you remember from him on the field? 530 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: Is it that Iron Bowl his first time out a 531 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: couple of picks hurts or is there something later in 532 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: his career that stands up I tell you what you 533 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: just I mean, you just said it, like start out 534 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: as a true freshman in the Iron Ball on the 535 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: road two interceptions. Uh, and he grew up in the 536 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: state and he understands how big that is. And that 537 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: really just laid the groundwork for him from a confidence 538 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: standpoint that hey, not only can I play in this league, 539 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: but I can play very high level. And then after that, 540 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: really the the next three years, it was just like 541 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: he turned into one of our leaders, a guy that 542 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: you can count on. Uh, that has so much character. Uh. 543 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: He loves practice and he loves the game of football. 544 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: I mean and uh, like I said, I can't say 545 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: enough good things coach mal Is is it the leadership 546 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: part of his the way he goes around and does 547 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: his business. Is it more of a vocal leadership? Is 548 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: it by example a mixture? What's that personality? Like? Well, 549 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: really it's by example, uh, first of all, but this year, 550 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: being a senior, he was on my leadership committee. Uh. 551 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: And then he started to become more vocal and he's 552 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: the type. You know, he's not gonna say a whole lot, 553 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: but when he does, everybody listens and they have so 554 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: much respect for him as a person. As a player. Uh, 555 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, everyone is rooting for Daniel Thomas coach. A 556 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: couple more minutes with you here, and I've got to 557 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: ask you while we have you on here about a 558 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: couple of other SEC players that the Jaguars drafted on 559 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the football. You're, of course noted 560 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: for your offensive prowess. There's the head coach of the 561 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: Auburn Tigers. So let's start with C. J. Henderson. You 562 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: saw Florida last year. I think he had three passes 563 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: defense in that game. The cornerback out of Florida. What 564 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: kind of corner and how how did you have to 565 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: adjust when you when you saw him on the outside. Yeah, 566 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: he was a guy that we definitely game playing around 567 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: and tried to be very smart because we knew he 568 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: had big play of belvy. He just felt such a 569 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: confident player and so you know that was a big, 570 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: big factor We're trying to game playing around him. And 571 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: there was one one of the defensive linemen that, uh 572 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: that we really were the two Keys, we felt like 573 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: and being sussible, but but a dynamic player. Caleb and 574 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: chased on the other Jaguars first round pick. As we 575 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: sit here and talk today, the guy is twenty years 576 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: old and he's a first round pick in the NFL. 577 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: He'll be twenty one. So now there's a lot of 578 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: tread left on the tires there for the Jaguars at least. 579 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: But what kind of impact did he didn't make the 580 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: last couple of years in the SEC. You know, we 581 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: were always concerned about him rushing the pastor. Um, you know, 582 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: he's long, he's fast, Um, you know, very explosive, and 583 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: this Pastor he got a lot better against the run. 584 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: So you're talking about a really, really good player that 585 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: has a lot outside. Like I said, he's scary when 586 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: you go against him, you know, Russian the Pastor. And finally, 587 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: Don Davis Russell was here with the Jaguars as well, 588 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: a draft pick late last year. I gotta get him 589 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: on the field a little bit, but he's working his 590 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: way up and we're glad to have him around here 591 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, Don Tangers is one of all time favorites. 592 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: So you're talking about a guy that's just so steady 593 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: h but he played really good for us. He's one 594 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: of those guys it's just steady consistent. It gets overlooked. 595 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: I think I think he was a lot better than 596 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: the attention that he got while he was here, and 597 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: probably even with you guys too. But very good football player, 598 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: very steady consistent. Um, you know. 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And 698 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,760 Speaker 1: I dove out of the way as you ran by. 699 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: It's right. Then I hustled, hustled back to to scarf 700 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: it down. John. What are you make of this? Andy 701 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: Dalton buzz on social media. I guess we kind of 702 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: saw this coming when he was cut. But do you think, 703 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: you know, log seems to think that it wouldn't be 704 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 1: a bad idea depending on the price. Yeah, it makes 705 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: a lot of sense. I mean, it's uh anything taking 706 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: it makes sense, not necessarily because the iford nexting so much, 707 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: but you know, clearly Jay Gruden has spend time with Dalton. 708 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: It's probably a comfort level there. Uh, and I sent 709 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: throughout the if you off season, We talked about it. 710 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: They have hope in Minshew and they have reason to hope. 711 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: But you know, as much as I like and as 712 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: much as I hope too, there were long stretches last 713 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: year where Minshew really struggled and even in some of 714 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 1: the winds, you know, there were long periods of half 715 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: that if if that would happen again, which I don't 716 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: think it will, but if it would, do you want 717 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: your backup to be Dobbs and a rookie? You know? 718 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: I think it still feels like they would like there 719 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: to be some alternatives there, and uh, you know, to 720 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: meet Dalton for that reason makes sense. I don't know 721 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: if they didn't go after other guys because they assume 722 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: that Dalton would come available this way, that seems like 723 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of a reach, because you can't always 724 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: assume things like that. I don't know that would have 725 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: precluded from going after somebody else, but I can't help 726 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: but think that get the relationship with Gruden wouldn't help 727 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: on that front. I guess the other part of it 728 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: as a cost, like what's what's he really expecting? And 729 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: the market can't be crazy for him. Now, you wouldn't 730 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,720 Speaker 1: think based on what Winston got in in New Orleans. Um, 731 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 1: I mean you know in uh but you never know 732 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: how that plays out. You know, you would have necessarily 733 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: thought that Jaguars would have a would get a fourth 734 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: for Fold when other teams couldn't get anything for New 735 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:51,439 Speaker 1: you know. So the quarterback market sometimes doesn't play by 736 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 1: the same rules as the rest of the market because 737 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: it's quarterback. But if you get him for reasonable um, 738 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, no matter what people might think and say, 739 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: And this is not a rebuild, this is not a 740 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: tank for Trevor. There's none of that is reality to 741 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: the people making decisions for this team. So if they 742 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 1: think that Dalton is a guy who can give them 743 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: a good chance, and if they want to and they 744 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: think he's the right fit, then absolutely I think it 745 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, the the whole tanking argument is ridiculous. 746 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't tank because you get fired this 747 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: year if you tank well and even you know, to me, 748 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: it looks no further than Miami last year to know 749 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 1: that it's it's ridiculous. This is a team that I mean, 750 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: everybody in the media who was close to that team 751 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,919 Speaker 1: was sure that they were tanking, And it almost felt 752 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: when you read the reports, and I know some of 753 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: the reporters down they have done a long time, it 754 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 1: felt like they were hearing it from the inside. They 755 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: were so confident. You know, there's a different kind of 756 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: reporting when you're hearing the stores well, guess what, once 757 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 1: floor has got there. And once those players started playing, 758 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: they didn't want to lose sixteen games. So it's why 759 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: try when it's out of your control? Are you gonna 760 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: try to lose sixteen? What another team was the sixteen? 761 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 1: So I just think it's uh, especially with this roster 762 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: right now. JP. If you look at the roster on 763 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, you've got Minshoe and three really good young 764 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 1: players Taylor uh Shark and uh I'm Jonah and Josh Allen, 765 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: plus Miles Jack plus now five or six rookies who 766 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: you think you're gonna make huge impact and Brandon Linder 767 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: and Norma. This is not the two thousand thirteen Jaguars, 768 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: where when I looked at me, I thought, boy, where 769 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: did they compete? Every every roster spot has either a 770 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: good player or a potentially very good player prime pick. 771 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't see the tanking thing beyond 772 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: the fact they traded some veterans who I think most 773 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: of those veterans, people who know football, don't think they 774 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: were close to being in their prime anyway. So I 775 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: don't know that they're worse than last year. I just 776 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: don't think they are. It is a lot of youth 777 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 1: coming in though, John Ozan with US Jaguars dot Com 778 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: senior writer here on Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon. 779 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, twelve draft picks, eighteen undrafted rookie free agents signed, 780 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: So that's dirty rookies on the roster right now for 781 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: this football team. And there's a lot of youth, and 782 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: as we know, John, a lot of times a lot 783 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: of youth means a lot of els. But as you said, 784 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: there there are some some of the early round draft 785 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: picks especially, that are going to be expected to jump 786 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: in and make an impact. Whether they do or not, 787 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 1: that's you know, we'll see, but that's where they are 788 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: right now. It's a young, gonna be a young football team. 789 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: Outside of even this draft class and this rookie class, 790 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there's still impact players that are very young 791 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: on this team. Well, when I say, I don't grasp 792 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: the tanking thing, and I don't grasp why people think 793 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 1: this team is gonna go up one and fifteen. I'm 794 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: not saying they're a double digit win team yet. I 795 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: just think there is a place between two and fourteen 796 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: and ten and six that this team has a chance 797 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: to settle. It was six and ten last year. I 798 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: think the run defense is much better than it was 799 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: last year, and that to me was where everything split 800 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: off the table last year. Beyond that, they were a 801 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: relatively competitive team. So does in talking to him clearly 802 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: like the idea, and he's hit on this team. He's 803 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: hit on this team every time he talked publicly. He's 804 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: excited about having a bunch of guys who were all 805 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: pulling in the same direction without a lot of outside stuff. 806 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: And there might be, you know, to say what you 807 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: want about Jan and Leonard and all the trade stuff. 808 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: Might be a few guys who have some lingering issues, 809 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: But overall, I think you would agree jp this locker 810 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: room next year, it if and when we're walking into 811 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: it is going to feel like it's pulling in a 812 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: new direction. And I don't know how you I don't 813 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: know what Handel we can say about that, but it 814 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: feels like it's Josh Allen, J One Taylor, D J. 815 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: Chart Gardner, Minshew's team and it's gonna be pulling in 816 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 1: their direction. And I think the organization is excited about that. Uh. 817 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,399 Speaker 1: We talked a lot over the weekend on Zoom JP. 818 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: It feels like this draft is going to be looked 819 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: back on as a see change, new direction draft. We'll 820 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: see if the players can live up to that. John Ozan, 821 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: the Jaguars dot Com senior writer here on Jaguars Happy, 822 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 1: our last couple of minutes with you here, John, So, 823 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you of the twelve draft picks, what 824 00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: was the Jaguar's best selection, maybe the best value, the 825 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: one that made the most sense. And then what was 826 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 1: a pick that made you go hmm? And then how 827 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: do they get how do they prove that's the right call? 828 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: You know? I think C. J. Henderson has been overlooked 829 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: a little bit, maybe because he's a quiet guy, is 830 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: not as fun to talk to as I chased on 831 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 1: Or or Quarterman. But he'd better be your best selection. 832 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,280 Speaker 1: And this is a guy who's job it is very quickly. 833 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,280 Speaker 1: You know, most secondaries in the NFL aren't as loaded 834 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: as the Jaguars were in two thousand seventeen. They've usually 835 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 1: got one premier guy who can take away the side 836 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,280 Speaker 1: of the field. Let the other guys double there, guys, etcetera. 837 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: Very quickly. He needs to be He was only taking 838 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: four spots below Jail. You know, this is not like 839 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: this is a low first round draft pick when you're yeah, 840 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: when you're picked in the top ten at a corner, 841 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: that's relatively rare. So you know, I think he has 842 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: the trait. They love this guy and it's become vogue 843 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: in the last three or four days. Talked about the 844 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: rest of the draft class. But I think he's the 845 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: guy that will certainly be watching more than any because 846 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,399 Speaker 1: he's the guy who has to come through. I don't 847 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: know if there was a pick that surprised me as 848 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: much as in fact, they didn't go running back at 849 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 1: some point, um. I thought, even beyond the Leonard Fournette stuff, 850 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: whatever happens there, it felt to me before the draft 851 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 1: like they needed that change of pace um at a 852 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: missability guy, whatever that means. It felt like that was 853 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: going to be a pick, and apparently they feel good 854 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: about Armstead. They feel good about Leonard Fournette's ability to 855 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: do that. Um, you wonder if free agent released during 856 00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: training camp, guy in running back, which often happens, could 857 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: be a guy like that for a year. But I 858 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: was a little surprised fourth round didn't include that. I 859 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: was very vocal for the draft that I thought. I 860 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,240 Speaker 1: thought that's where they would address that, and they didn't. 861 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com senior writer John Osan So the drafts 862 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: over the off season program has got that right. The 863 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: official start of the off season program was here, So 864 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: that means there's meetings and stuff going on virtually. So 865 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 1: what now for you? What's what's the coverage like for 866 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,879 Speaker 1: you on the team site coming up in the next 867 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I think all of us are doing 868 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 1: the same thing, trying to reach out to as many 869 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: college coaches, Jaguars assistant trying to get a feel for 870 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: this draft class. I we're starting what we call the 871 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: ozone podcast, and we talked to who try to go, yeah, 872 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: try to go a little deeper, you know, some in 873 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: depth type stuff interviews, which I like to do. You 874 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: told anybody about this yet? I don't think this is public. Yeah, 875 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 1: this is breaking news. Uh. You know we've talked about 876 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: it amongst ourselves, right, but not publicly. Not but not 877 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: on a radio show. That's true, true, So we'll be 878 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: trying to do that and I will see that. God 879 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: hope to have Michael Silver on the next week h 880 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,760 Speaker 1: to talk a little about what he's still in the draft. 881 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,240 Speaker 1: And it's always good to talk to Mike anyway. He's 882 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: he's a good NFL guy. So we'll we'll try that 883 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: and on weeks I can't get those people. I've got 884 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: some neighbors who are pretty interesting. Hey, hey, Ted, let's talk. Yeah, 885 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. We're gonna try to use 886 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: this down down time of time where we don't have 887 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 1: access to players inside the building. Two. Uh, you reach 888 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 1: out and maybe try it with something new. Looking forward 889 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 1: to that, John good Stuff is always going to talk 890 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,479 Speaker 1: to you and we'll catch up with you soon. I'm sure. 891 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 1: All right, Jef, you having a modal law and how 892 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 1: about that? You know I need come on over my 893 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: house too if you want. While you're at it, I'll 894 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: stay inside. You can take care of that. Donald's senior 895 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 1: writer Jaguars dot Com joining us on the program today 896 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: we're back. In a moment, we'll go around the National 897 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: Football League at some of the high points, and we'll 898 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: hear a little bit from Melt Tucker, former Jaguars defensive 899 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: coordinator from O nine to twelve. Yes, and then now 900 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: the head coach at Michigan State. He was the head 901 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 1: coach at Colorado last year. We'll hear a snippet of 902 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 1: our conversation that's coming up in just a moment. It 903 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. 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I've been 974 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 1: fans Day one, New Ball till we die Go Jack 975 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 1: ten ten XL, Welcome Back, Final moments of Jaguars Happy. 976 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 1: Our travel Camp RV is now offering bring home deliveries 977 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,840 Speaker 1: up to one hundred miles. Travel Camp specialists. You're equipped 978 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: to help you find the perfect RV for your homes. 979 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: Live video walk throughs thanks to Jeff Logavan, Jaguars analysts 980 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:45,399 Speaker 1: who joined us in the opening segment. Today. Auburn head 981 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: coach gust malson we call up over a zoom yesterday. 982 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 1: The full conversation available on Jaguars dot com. Go to 983 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 1: visit with coach Melson and discussed Daniel Thomas and much 984 00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: more about the Auburn Tigers program that's going. You heard 985 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 1: in that interview that they've had over the last three 986 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 1: draft classes sixteen players drafted. That's the second most in 987 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 1: a three year period for Auburn since nineteen eighty nine 988 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,959 Speaker 1: to ninety one when they had twenty and that span 989 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: that's a long time ago, so things are going well. 990 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: That's part of program health, let's say, and in college 991 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 1: football is how many players are putting out. And of course, 992 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: when you put that many players out, you've got to 993 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: have some players to come in and play behind them. 994 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: That's the next step. And that's the challenge for programs 995 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 1: that are successful and sending guys out to the National 996 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 1: Football League, how can they fill those spots and move 997 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: on and move forward. And it always kind of feels 998 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,879 Speaker 1: like coach Mazan has a little bit of a hot 999 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 1: seat at Auburn, which a lot of times it is 1000 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: a hot seat, but he's maintained and they've won a 1001 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 1: lot of football games in his time at Auburn, and 1002 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: Daniel Thomas was a big part of that the last 1003 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 1: couple of years. He's now Jacksonville Jaguar. We caught up 1004 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 1: today and that's not out yet. You'll hear the full 1005 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 1: interview next week on Jaguars dot com. Melt Tucker is 1006 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 1: now the head coach at Michigan State. Last year he 1007 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,919 Speaker 1: was the head coach at Colorado, the Buffaloes head coach. 1008 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 1: He's a former Jaguars defensive coordinator. Of course, from two 1009 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 1: thousand nine to twelve. Then he went on to the 1010 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 1: Bears for a couple of years as the d C. 1011 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,240 Speaker 1: Was at Alabama for a year as the defensive backs coach, 1012 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 1: and it was the freshman year for Ronnie Harrison, by 1013 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: the way, and you'll you'll hear that conversation on Monday 1014 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: as well. And then it was on to Georgia for 1015 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 1: some successful years of the Bulldogs as the defensive coordinator, 1016 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 1: and then on to Colorado as the head coach last year. 1017 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:44,240 Speaker 1: That means Lavisca Chennault was under his head coaching staff 1018 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,320 Speaker 1: last year and they used him a lot of different 1019 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 1: ways on the field. With the question I had for 1020 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: him was what is Labisca like off the field? He's 1021 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,839 Speaker 1: a he's a really quiet guy and uh and really 1022 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: until he gets to know you, um and uh. So 1023 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 1: when I first got to Motor, he was, you know, 1024 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,239 Speaker 1: very shy and uh and so it was a kind 1025 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 1: of a process of him opening up, you know, once 1026 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 1: he got to know me and the staff and uh. 1027 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: But once he kind of got used to us and 1028 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,800 Speaker 1: kind of found out what we were all about, and 1029 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: he's great, you know, and he's, like I said, he's 1030 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: a fun guy. He's always got smile on his face. 1031 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: He loves his team as he loves his coaches. He competes, 1032 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 1: he practices hard um, you know, but for people you 1033 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 1: know initially that he's not familiar with, he's gonna be 1034 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna be quiet's gonna be reserved. He's got the 1035 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 1: he's got the braids. You know, they'll be covering his 1036 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 1: face every now and then. But he'll he'll he'll come 1037 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 1: out of it eventually. And uh and you guys will 1038 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: work well together and we'll see what Labisca has. The 1039 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 1: offer sounds like a lot for the Jaguars team, the 1040 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,879 Speaker 1: second round pick out of Colorado. There thanks to Melt 1041 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 1: Tucker full visit coming up next week on Jaguars dot Com. 1042 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: Time to go around the National Football League and we 1043 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 1: start off in Green Bay, Wisconsin, where the Packers selected 1044 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: Jordan's Love last Thursday in the first round. They moved 1045 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,319 Speaker 1: up four rounds to get him. So is this the 1046 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 1: beginning of the end for Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay? Well, 1047 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 1: Rogers has not made many appearances since then. He was 1048 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: out there socially a lot on social media, out and 1049 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 1: about as much as he can be in this time period, 1050 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,319 Speaker 1: but he was out there a lot. Obviously you saw 1051 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: him everywhere, but that does not happened much. But apparently 1052 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 1: he talked to Brett Farve, and now Brett Farve was 1053 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 1: talking to a lot of the media folks. So Farve 1054 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,720 Speaker 1: said that basically disrespect would be a term maybe too 1055 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 1: um describe what Rogers is feeling. Well, hey, that's part 1056 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 1: of the NFL, and and they've got to move figure 1057 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 1: out the next step of the quarterback position. And it 1058 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,879 Speaker 1: may not be this year, may not be the next 1059 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 1: two years, but a couple of years down the line, 1060 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,760 Speaker 1: it might be time to move on from Aaron Rodgers. 1061 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,320 Speaker 1: And if you remember the same thing happened when Brett 1062 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 1: Farve was the quarterback there. Rogers comes in late first 1063 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,879 Speaker 1: round it and but had to sit on the bench 1064 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,400 Speaker 1: for a couple of three years under far Far notoriously 1065 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: did not really uh go out of his way to 1066 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 1: help Aaron Rodgers in that tutor in process that I 1067 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 1: don't know if that's even the right term up there 1068 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 1: for what happened, but uh, it moved on and far 1069 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,439 Speaker 1: Far at some point moved on. They moved on from 1070 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 1: far We ended up in Minnesota and and the rest 1071 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 1: is history, and then Rogers has been the quarterback from that. 1072 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 1: So interesting stuff there from the Green Bay Packers. We 1073 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 1: heard earlier today the Bengals released Andy Dalton after nine seasons. 1074 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,479 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is the new sheriff in town there and 1075 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 1: the Jaguars immediately were one of those team names thrown 1076 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 1: around for consideration for Andy Dalton. And hearing from Jeff 1077 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 1: Loghman and John Osier in this program today, it's it 1078 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense with the offensive cornator j 1079 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: Gruden here now he was there three years and Cincinnati 1080 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: with Dalton the first three years Dalton was there. They 1081 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: won a lot of football games in those times, not 1082 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 1: a lot of playoff games, not any, but they got there. 1083 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 1: They were in the hunt, they were in the mix, 1084 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 1: and they had some things going in Cincinnati for a 1085 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: little while. We'll see what Dave Caldwell has up his sleeve, 1086 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 1: if anything. Rob Gronkowski has joined Tom Brady and Tampa Bay. 1087 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 1: But he boasted this week about having the Bucks playbook early. 1088 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 1: The only problem is that that was while he was 1089 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 1: still under control of the New England Patriots. He has 1090 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 1: since said he was joking. Well, um, Always interesting to 1091 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 1: see what Rob Gronkowski has to say, and this is 1092 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,919 Speaker 1: not breaking news. It shouldn't be breaking news. It should 1093 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: be a well dumb moment. More than anything, the chiefs 1094 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 1: of exercise the fifth year option on Patrick Mahomes, a 1095 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 1: quarterback the Super Bowl champions last year in Kansas City. 1096 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is going nowhere for a long long time. 1097 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 1: At some point they will extend him and and do 1098 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 1: all of that. Oh, that'll do it for our program today, 1099 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour thanks to Jeff Logman. So before we 1100 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: get going here, uh, the three cheers segment is back. 1101 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 1: Three cheers on Happy Hour to the Jaguars I T Department. 1102 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: They did a great job over the draft last week 1103 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 1: with a football side, with with the broadcast side, getting 1104 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 1: everybody connected, keeping them connected, and the I T Department 1105 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 1: should get cheers for their contribution to the Jaguars draft 1106 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: thanks to Jeff Lockman, or thanks to Gus Melson on 1107 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 1: the Albert Tigers, John Osier and our entire crew on 1108 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 1: JP Shadrick. That'll do it for Jaguars Happy Hour. We'll 1109 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 1: catch you next week on the Jaguars Digital Network.