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Speaker 1: He's going to be on another team. Caleb Williams is

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Speaker 1: Deshaun think of who he truly has to play better

437
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Speaker 1: than right and when I don't mean on a weekly basis,

438
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Speaker 1: but just be able to be like at least in

439
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Speaker 1: the conversation Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson right now in

440
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Speaker 1: a different stratosphere. I think everyone with a brain is

441
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Speaker 1: betting on her to be good now that he's got

442
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Speaker 1: Harball and like just that crew alone. Like I was

443
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Speaker 1: bsing with Doug Peterson yesterday and like it was just

444
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Speaker 1: a real conversation. I asked him, like, what do you

445
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 1: think about the quarterback? And like, without hesitations, like.

446
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Speaker 3: I really like him.

447
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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be fine. He's banged up last year,

448
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Speaker 1: He's gonna be okay. Now, I'm not as big a

449
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Speaker 1: believer as him, and I don't think he's just saying

450
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Speaker 1: that to say it, like, I think he likes him

451
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Speaker 1: why he took the job. But let's just say they

452
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Speaker 1: get him just playing at a solid level, uh CJ.

453
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Speaker 3: Stroud.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even think about him, like, I mean, you

455
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Speaker 1: just got a lot of guys. This is not gonna

456
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Speaker 1: be easy. And say what you want about to his

457
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Speaker 1: infrastructure with McDaniel, the offensive players around him, they play

458
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Speaker 1: in a warm weather climate.

459
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Speaker 3: They got a Burrow's coming back.

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Speaker 1: You gotta figure this out, and you gotta you gotta

461
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Speaker 1: figure it out fast. So combine the stories that are

462
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: gonna come out left and right over the weekend and

463
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Speaker 1: moving toward free agency, it's a fun time of year.

464
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Speaker 1: I saw how he was talking to Florio yesterday and

465
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Speaker 1: he said that, you know, it's a GM once the

466
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Speaker 1: season gets going, like we don't coach the team and

467
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Speaker 1: there are really only so many moves you can make,

468
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Speaker 1: but a lot of stuff's out of the front office's control. Well,

469
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Speaker 1: this time a year, it's not this is the time

470
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Speaker 1: of year where the front office separates.

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Speaker 3: Each other, you know, from other teams.

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Speaker 1: It's like walking around here, you see people with the

473
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Speaker 1: different logos. I'd say half the teams in the league

474
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Speaker 1: have don't have a snowballs chance in hell to compete zero.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they just have no shot.

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Speaker 1: And then you got like the next half of that

477
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Speaker 1: fifteen seventeen teams that are like, you know, if they

478
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Speaker 1: hit on a couple guys, they definitely could be playoff teams.

479
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: And then you got the top six or seven teams

480
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Speaker 1: in the league that are running circles around everybody like

481
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Speaker 1: Andy and Veach, like it's not really a fair fight.

482
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Speaker 1: Got the best coach, you have easily one of the

483
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Speaker 1: best talent evaluators they know exactly like everyone thinks, like

484
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Speaker 1: the way the Ravens operate, the way the Niners are operating,

485
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Speaker 1: like McVeigh and less need. You have teams that are

486
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Speaker 1: just just on a different level, like Sirianni's very dependent

487
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Speaker 1: on Hiss coordinators, but they have a high level operation

488
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Speaker 1: if those coordinators are good and more and vic fan

489
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Speaker 1: jo or big upgrades. Even the Cowboys, like I'm not

490
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Speaker 1: betting on them to win playoff games anymore. But they're

491
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Speaker 1: clearly a well run operation. A lot of these teams

492
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Speaker 1: are not so this time of the year, making the

493
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Speaker 1: right decisions. Gyms know what they're doing, knowing who to pay,

494
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Speaker 1: knowing who not to pay, knowing who to trade for,

495
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Speaker 1: who not to trade for. So much buzz and free

496
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Speaker 1: agency about like, oh, this team is the most cap space.

497
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Speaker 1: This team opened up this much room to pay who Now.

498
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Speaker 1: I like paying your own guys when you got really

499
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Speaker 1: good young players extending them. It's expensive, but like other

500
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Speaker 1: free agents, that's that's very, very risky. They're usually free

501
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Speaker 1: agents for reason, and you have to pay a premium

502
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Speaker 1: on top of that to get the guy. So it's like, well,

503
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Speaker 1: this guy is not even an a player, but I

504
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Speaker 1: got to pay him like an a player. It's always risky,

505
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Speaker 1: and a lot of these guys, especially the older guys,

506
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Speaker 1: third contracts.

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Speaker 3: You know.

508
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Speaker 1: It's most guys are not quarterbacks that play well into

509
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Speaker 1: their mid thirties. This is the NFL, so fun times

510
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Speaker 1: here from Indy. Let's talk to briefly, but it was

511
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Speaker 1: a fun little chat with a guy I used to

512
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Speaker 1: call my boss, Eagles GM Howie Roseman.

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Speaker 3: Here with a Super Bowl champion. I like that. Howie Roseman,

514
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Speaker 3: former boss, Howie, what's up?

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Speaker 5: Hey John? What's going on?

516
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Speaker 4: Man?

517
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Speaker 5: You look tanned, well rested. Man? The pod life serving

518
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 5: you well? I feel like I should be interviewing you.

519
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Speaker 5: What am I doing wrong?

520
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Speaker 3: You want to become a podcaster? No? No, you're having

521
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 3: too much fun. I am.

522
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Speaker 5: I love what I do. I'm very fortunate to be

523
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Speaker 5: surrounded by great people. So okay, we gotta keep up quick.

524
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Speaker 3: I know you got to roll.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, this season one of the crazier ones you've ever

526
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Speaker 1: been involved in.

527
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think just that, you know, the season is

528
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Speaker 5: always a rollercoaster ride. You know, this one you're going

529
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Speaker 5: all the way up and then you know, kind of

530
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 5: went down a little bit further than we thought. But

531
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Speaker 5: great learning opportunity for us. And now you're in the

532
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Speaker 5: off season and it's like, how can we do better?

533
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Speaker 5: What can we do better? And you know that starts

534
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Speaker 5: with me, and so I look forward to the opportunity.

535
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Speaker 5: We got great staff, we got a great group of

536
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Speaker 5: people to try to make sure that you know, we're

537
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Speaker 5: not having an ending like we did last year.

538
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Speaker 1: Think it's this time for you, you know, meetings, free agencies, trades,

539
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: obviously you're known as one of the wheelers and dealers

540
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: of the league. Yeah, is this normal combine or just I.

541
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Speaker 5: Think I think you're always trying to just accumulate information,

542
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 5: you know, try to get as much information as you

543
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 5: can to make good decisions. And I think that's really

544
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 5: what is. We want to stack good decision upon good decisions.

545
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Speaker 5: And that doesn't mean that everything we do is going

546
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 5: to work out. Certainly that hasn't been this case. But

547
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Speaker 5: if we make a lot of good decisions, you know,

548
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Speaker 5: it gives our chance to a team and cheap chance

549
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Speaker 5: it can be for championships.

550
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Speaker 1: How do you not take too big a deal over

551
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Speaker 1: what happened the last whatever five six weeks of the

552
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: season and try to take the totality of everything is that?

553
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Speaker 3: Does that come with experience?

554
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Speaker 5: I think I think what what for me my process,

555
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 5: no matter how the season ends is you know, I

556
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Speaker 5: think I get away a little bit and I get

557
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Speaker 5: to a place where I can, with fresh eyes kind

558
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Speaker 5: of go back over the season and watch the tape

559
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 5: and watch our players with fresh eyes as opposed to

560
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Speaker 5: what I think my perspective is. And I think that

561
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Speaker 5: and I do it away from the building a little bit,

562
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Speaker 5: And I think what that does is it it gives

563
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Speaker 5: me a vision of what we need to improve and

564
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 5: the areas that maybe are better than I thought and

565
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Speaker 5: maybe worse than I thought, you know, just based on

566
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Speaker 5: going through the season and watching each week and having

567
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Speaker 5: this big picture perspective. So you know, got through that

568
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 5: and then you go and you try to execute, and

569
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Speaker 5: I think, you know, for me, some of the experience

570
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 5: lessons are sometimes you know, you go about and you

571
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 5: try to do something and it doesn't work out, and

572
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 5: sometimes that's the best thing that could happen because another

573
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 5: opportunity comes about. And so team building, roster building, it's

574
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 5: a year round activity. But certainly when you talk about

575
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 5: March April, May, big opportunities.

576
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Speaker 1: And now you know Kellen Moore, who you guys obviously

577
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Speaker 1: played against for years in Dallas, and Fangio who was

578
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Speaker 1: working with you guys last year.

579
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Speaker 3: You've seen him forever.

580
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Speaker 5: Ye.

581
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Speaker 3: What you're feeling like with those two guys right.

582
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Speaker 5: Now, Well, I think coach did an unbelievable job of

583
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Speaker 5: vetting candidates and obviously excited about the guys that he

584
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 5: hired and they're fit in Philly, and now we got

585
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 5: to spying with players. You know, I think that at

586
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Speaker 5: the end of the day, our job is important. You know,

587
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 5: the players are what win games in this league, and

588
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 5: you know, I gotta I gotta do my part to

589
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 5: make sure the coach around he has a chance to

590
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 5: have really good players.

591
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Speaker 3: How many hours of sleep per night?

592
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 6: Here?

593
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 5: Last night wasn't a good start, not a great start,

594
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 5: because you know, you got you obviously have these interviews,

595
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 5: you have meetings here, and then you also got league

596
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 5: meetings and so you know, but it's it's good seeing people.

597
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 5: It's good seeing people like you so that you don't

598
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 5: get to see all year. You know, I saw someone

599
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 5: yesterday and I thought I because I speak to him,

600
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Speaker 5: and I thought I saw him. He's like, I haven't

601
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 5: seen you since last March, and I'm like, no way,

602
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 5: I felt like it's like three months ago. So these

603
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 5: things go quicker and quicker.

604
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Speaker 1: My man, Well, how he when's your first deal? You

605
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: think the next couple of weeks.

606
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Speaker 5: Or we were signed a couple of players, you know.

607
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know Eagles always got some and then

608
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: it's just be prepared.

609
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Speaker 3: Is that fair?

610
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 5: I got to tell you? Is that like? Is that

611
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 5: your like catchphrase? Right there, because that was pretty good.

612
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 5: That has a lot of energy in that.

613
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 3: You know, and in the internet streets. You know Howie

614
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: Rose the Eagles.

615
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'll stay away from those streets.

616
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: No, no breaking news, no breaking news. Right in the

617
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 3: draft board.

618
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Speaker 5: We got Tom. Get me out of here.

619
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Speaker 3: Appreciate Tom's next.

620
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 5: Tom will get you the most podcast whatever.

621
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Speaker 3: Votes you need, get a views in like ten minutes.

622
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 5: No, let's see, hey, Dom, can you just show your face?

623
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Speaker 5: You need some views on his podcast?

624
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 3: Can we can we just get can we get one comment?

625
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: You can get one comment? And I support him and

626
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: he's come here.

627
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 5: This guy one and more talented people in the National

628
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 5: Football League, His relationship with our players, his ability to

629
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 5: identify talent. He's special guy.

630
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Speaker 3: As one guy that supported you the whole time. The

631
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: voice right here, absolutely definitely my guy. That's my guy.

632
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.

633
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: Thank you.

634
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's uh let's let's dive into a uh yeah.

635
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: I've known this guy for a while, used to have

636
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 3: him on the radio show.

637
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: He runs what I think many would consider the most

638
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: successful and biggest NFL website.

639
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: Very polarizing individual, Mike Florio.

640
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: Okay, here with the founder founder and current president, founder, owner, owner.

641
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: CEO, COO.

642
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: Guy who cleans the toilets of a website that obviously fans,

643
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: but more importantly, the whole league reads and listen, this

644
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: is my type.

645
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: Guy.

646
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: We don't always agree. Now you wouldn't know, because I'm

647
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: just reading you.

648
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Speaker 3: I've heard some things.

649
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 6: I've heard some things you've said about me, and I

650
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 6: can't remember what they are, but I remember being pissed

651
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 6: off at you, and then I forget about it.

652
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: You'll talk some shit, and my former boss, Howie and

653
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: you guys have a nice little, uh good back and forth.

654
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Speaker 6: I love Howie and there are times where I want

655
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Speaker 6: to strangle Howie, but I love Howie.

656
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: My guy Dom Desandro, I don't think it's too happy

657
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Speaker 1: with you right now.

658
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Speaker 6: I don't know what Dom's problem is, but you know

659
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Speaker 6: what it's his problem.

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Speaker 1: Was it that big a deal? Let's be real, Well, no,

661
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Speaker 1: it wasn't a big deal. Well, but and I'm a

662
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Speaker 1: nier guy, it wasn't that.

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Speaker 6: If you're on the sideline and you're not a player

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Speaker 6: and you're not a coach, stay the fuck off the

665
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Speaker 6: white line.

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Speaker 3: That's the easy rule.

667
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Speaker 6: Stay off the white line and don't go throwing yourself

668
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Speaker 6: around like you're some big ship that you're gonna get

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Speaker 6: in the middle of this year. Not there because people

670
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Speaker 6: are like he's security. Well, this isn't a club. He's

671
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Speaker 6: not a bouncer at a club. When he's a game,

672
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Speaker 6: he's not there to help the officials keep the piece

673
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Speaker 6: back off and let the officials keep the peace. Don't

674
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Speaker 6: go putting your hands on other players. It's a fairly

675
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Speaker 6: clear bright line. Don't go putting your hands on other players.

676
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Speaker 6: He's not part of the process that would be putting

677
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Speaker 6: his hands on that.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you there, like it was a mistake.

679
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Speaker 1: It happened, and just move on. Like, but I don't

680
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Speaker 1: believe he should be kicked out of the league. I mean,

681
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Speaker 1: you would be kicked out of the league for it.

682
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Speaker 1: I just thought, look, you would find a hundred grand.

683
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Speaker 3: Well we'll see if he paid it. But and okay,

684
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Speaker 3: but coming from the big guy. But but the reality

685
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Speaker 3: is a lot of money, Mike.

686
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Speaker 6: Oh, that's a lot of money. He's got a coach.

687
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Speaker 6: I understand that. But I'm sure he'll get it back

688
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Speaker 6: one way or the other. From you know, you get

689
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Speaker 6: a little bonus here or there, there are ways to

690
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Speaker 6: supplement your income. But the point is, like, because I

691
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Speaker 6: gotta be careful what's on the record off the record,

692
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Speaker 6: But I've heard from people that like Dom was upset.

693
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Speaker 3: It's like, well, I don't care if Dom's upset.

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Speaker 6: He was upset, he's fine. I mean, don't don't step

695
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Speaker 6: onto the white line and push a guy. It's not

696
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Speaker 6: my fault. I didn't force him to do it.

697
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Speaker 3: He did it.

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Speaker 6: And that's when you that was the game of the week,

699
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Speaker 6: except for setting to a football on NBC. That was

700
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Speaker 6: the game of the afternoon, right, And it's a key

701
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Speaker 6: moment and Drake green Law gets ejected.

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Speaker 3: That's stupid. I mean that he should.

703
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Speaker 6: But that's what makes it a bigger deal. I agree,

704
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Speaker 6: graduated for for that, for the little grazing. You know,

705
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Speaker 6: it was like a grazing of the chin, the whole

706
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Speaker 6: thing in it. But but the point is, I like,

707
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Speaker 6: if you're gonna be mad at the aftermath and the

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Speaker 6: fallout from what you.

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Speaker 3: Do, then just don't do it.

710
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Speaker 6: Don't be don't be mad at the people who react

711
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Speaker 6: to what you do with person.

712
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Speaker 3: He's a human. You get mad at people. I'm sure

713
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Speaker 3: over the.

714
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Speaker 6: Years I mean, but but I have I don't know

715
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Speaker 6: the guy. I got no agenda against the guy. He

716
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Speaker 6: guy's Italian, he's a compadre piano. I'm not I mean,

717
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Speaker 6: I'm not wired to go after the guy. It's just

718
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Speaker 6: had happened. And I think I was talking to Sims

719
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Speaker 6: yesterday because Sims was talking to him and he was

720
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Speaker 6: bitching about it. It's like, come on, man, but he's

721
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Speaker 6: mad because of some email I sent to the league.

722
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Speaker 6: I found the email I sent last night. I sent

723
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Speaker 6: an email asking simple questions. Here's here's what happened. Here

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Speaker 6: are my questions about it.

725
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Speaker 1: You were very inoculates, so you were being I didn't

726
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Speaker 1: know that you were. You were asking the league for

727
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Speaker 1: comments about the situation. Yeah, yeah, like what happened? You're

728
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Speaker 1: journalist exactly. I well, I don't know what I am,

729
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Speaker 1: but I've learned.

730
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Speaker 6: I heard over time how to find the answers to questions,

731
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Speaker 6: and I have a pipeline to the league. It's like,

732
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Speaker 6: here's what happened. Help me understand the rule. What are

733
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Speaker 6: the consequences for this? You know, because earlier in the

734
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Speaker 6: year they sent out a memo about these rules can happen, right,

735
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Speaker 6: And it turned out that they had a separate memo

736
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Speaker 6: that was sent out specifically for guys like the Sandro

737
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Speaker 6: about staying the fuck out of the white line. So

738
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Speaker 6: I I he he only had himself to blame. And

739
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Speaker 6: if he's got a problem with anything I said, it

740
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Speaker 6: is his problem. And if he's mad about anything I said,

741
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Speaker 6: I'm not apologized for anything I said because I didn't

742
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Speaker 6: say anything.

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Speaker 1: You should be upset about. Okay, let's uh, let's there's

744
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Speaker 1: no point.

745
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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 3: I did. I did. I'm supporting the big guy. I

747
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Speaker 3: go wherever the wind takes me. What you know, I

748
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: support the big guy. Tell him in the future, don't

749
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Speaker 3: go away. Who's the most angry at you here? Right now?

750
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Speaker 3: You think I don't know who else here?

751
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Speaker 1: A lot of coaches listen, Andy reads here. Belichick never

752
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: missed this. Some of these guys missing like I don't know.

753
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Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. I'll give an I think

754
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Speaker 1: they should be here. They That's what Andy told me yesterday.

755
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Speaker 1: I come to meet the kids. That's the only thing important.

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Speaker 6: Well, and that's my counter to the coaches who would

757
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Speaker 6: say I can watch the the workouts on film, I

758
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Speaker 6: can participate in the zoom interviews while nobody else is

759
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Speaker 6: in the room. Yeah, but I think if you're going

760
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Speaker 6: to drag the kids here and put them through this process,

761
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Speaker 6: and I know they have more brainwashing into thinking it's

762
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Speaker 6: an honor and a privilege, and I think that's bullshit.

763
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Speaker 6: It's it's an honor and privilege for the teams to

764
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Speaker 6: have the ability to do something that is far more

765
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Speaker 6: probing and meaningful than just like they used to do.

766
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Speaker 6: They did the draft in December. You know, when it's

767
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Speaker 6: time to make your pick. You're making your pick. You

768
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 6: are in a position. But my point is this, it's

769
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Speaker 6: not an honor and privilege for the kids. I mean,

770
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Speaker 6: kind it's okay, what job say, I know, but somebody's

771
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Speaker 6: getting that job. They need the kids to make it

772
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Speaker 6: easier for them to pick the right ones. They're picking

773
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Speaker 6: somebody for those jobs. They're going to draft somebody. And

774
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Speaker 6: there are certain guys that don't need to submit to

775
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Speaker 6: the process.

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Speaker 3: I was talking a couple of GM's last night.

777
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Speaker 6: There's about one hundred and fifty to one hundred and

778
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Speaker 6: seventy five guys where they don't really.

779
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Speaker 3: Need to be here. Marvin Harris. The rest need to

780
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Speaker 3: be the rest of them need to be here. They

781
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: don't need to go through the visuity to this stuff.

782
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Speaker 6: You know, Deon Sanders at one point when he was

783
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 6: going through it, and I think it was the Giants,

784
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 6: it was a Giant They had that long all that

785
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 6: questionnaire and he's like, where do you draft? Like I have,

786
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 6: I'm not going to be on the board. Then I

787
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 6: like that at that's a small percentage, I know, I know,

788
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 6: but I like that attitude because and this is just

789
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 6: part of the contrarian approach to Yeah, it's.

790
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Speaker 3: It's like, come on, man, even though you're the big

791
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: get Well, here's my point. Here's my point.

792
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 6: I think it's a sign of respect for the kids

793
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 6: that have to come here. Kids can't do it by zoom.

794
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 6: And I think if I'm a coach and I'm and

795
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 6: I'm sitting here for all these and I'm showing to

796
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 6: these kids that I care about this, it's important to me.

797
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 6: Even if I only draft seven of them, I'm making

798
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 6: relationship with those seven and some of these other guys

799
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Speaker 6: may be free agents at some point, or I may

800
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 6: be a coach another team where those guys are playing,

801
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 6: and I'm showing to them that this is a long

802
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 6: demanding week for them and I'm not staying home. I'm

803
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 6: here for it. So that part of it, I think

804
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 6: is a reason for the coaches to be here, and

805
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 6: it's only five or so that aren't here. I think

806
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 6: if they would ever take it out of Indian make

807
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 6: it a traveling road show, it would be more like

808
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Speaker 6: fifteen or twenty totally.

809
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Speaker 1: It wouldn't show up to me if any Reid is

810
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: going to be here and forever Belichick was here, McVeagh

811
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: and Kyle should be here.

812
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: McCarthy.

813
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: I mean these are I mean, these are guys some

814
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: of the biggest names of the Belichick never missed this thing.

815
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll was always here. There's there's clearly value. To me,

816
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: it's less about like even the disrespect. It's more they're

817
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: disrespecting the entire event kind of to like what they

818
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: don't think it's as important, like bullshit.

819
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: Well, somebody made the point that two things.

820
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 6: One as they make it bigger and bigger, as they

821
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 6: put more and more hype, they make it more of

822
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Speaker 6: a meet for TV event. That's kind of like a

823
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 6: protest against that. And the idea that you're getting hit

824
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 6: up for jobs wherever you go. You got people hanging

825
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 6: around looking for a job, looking for a job, and you.

826
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: Know, I don't want to deal with that. Like you

827
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: go out at.

828
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: Night and you're dealing with this part of your job though,

829
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you get everyone's bugging you, right, you

830
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: learn how.

831
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 6: To deal with you learn how to deal with it,

832
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 6: and you move on to the next person. I agree

833
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 6: with you, but I'm just trying to understand why five

834
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,240
Speaker 6: of them would feel compelled to not be here.

835
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Speaker 3: And most coaches look like Kyle Sean McCarthy SLA. Yeah,

836
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: but I think saw it's coming, Okay.

837
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 6: I think what happened was when I wrote when I

838
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 6: wrote the story over the weekend, Saala wasn't coming. Somebody

839
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 6: high up in the organization saw it and now saw

840
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 6: its coming. I think he's just coming like Saturday. But

841
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 6: he's still comes.

842
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: At least the other guys were in the playoffs right right.

843
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: The floor's not coming either. That's the fifthe four of

844
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 3: them have in common. They're all of the same little

845
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: buddy group. Right.

846
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 6: Uh.

847
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: Okay, let's I would say the biggest story so far.

848
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: You talked to him yesterday. The Ryan Poles justin field

849
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: situation might take away sure feels like Field is traded.

850
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: I might if I to take an educated guest. By

851
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: the end of next week, we have a destination.

852
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: They got to trade him.

853
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 6: They got to trade him soon because there's too many

854
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 6: other quarterbacks out there who are available on the first

855
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 6: day of free agency, and we know how it goes

856
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 6: this week. Teams are expressing interest and they don't necessarily

857
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 6: make offers financially this week, although for some of the

858
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 6: bigger names maybe they will.

859
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: But you've got seats that are going to start filling up.

860
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 6: So if you're gonna place Justin Field's in one of

861
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 6: those seats, you better do it before somebody signs Kirk Cousins.

862
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 3: I mean, the best examples of this land exactly.

863
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 6: Russell Wilson's going to be released, and I even as

864
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 6: late as last week some people were like, oh, don't

865
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 6: don't rule out Russell Wilson went back to Jeffer rule

866
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 6: it out.

867
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 3: There's no way he's going back. There's no way that's

868
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: going to work out.

869
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 6: They're not gonna guarantee thirty seven million next year fully

870
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 6: and completely, and he's not going to change the date

871
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 6: on which that guarantee of thirty seven million for injury

872
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 6: vests and some of the stuff he said to Brandon Marshall,

873
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 6: if you watch that podcast appearance, little things that the

874
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 6: Broncos would say, he's just wrong and it doesn't lay

875
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 6: the foundation to men fences. He's gone, it's over, but

876
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 6: he'll be part of it too. So if you're the Bears,

877
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 6: you got to move. And in a weird sort of way,

878
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 6: Sims and I were talking about this morning, I cannot

879
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 6: but wonder whether or not the Bears are deliberately trying

880
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 6: to agitate Fields to get him to ask to be traded,

881
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 6: because I think they're realizing they're not going to get

882
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 6: much for him. So if he asks to be traded

883
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 6: and it's kind of like a fire sale thing and

884
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 6: we got four, they can say, hey, if the guy

885
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 6: wanted to be out, we're trying to do right by him.

886
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 6: He asked to be traded. You know, what do you

887
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 6: expect us to get when the guy asked to be traded?

888
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 6: Because I think that there they were trying to be

889
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 6: coy and no one is saying, hey, we really want

890
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 6: and we'll give you a second round pick or first

891
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 6: roue pick. Here's the other window too, And that I

892
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 6: would watch if they this is risky. But if they

893
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 6: don't trade him before the musical chairs stop before or

894
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 6: early into free agency after the first round of the draft.

895
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 6: Anybody who decides we want a quarterback in the first

896
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 6: round of the draft. If you don't get your guy,

897
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 6: then in those eighteen hours before round two, maybe the

898
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 6: Bears trade fields for that team second round pick.

899
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 3: Ideally like to avoid that.

900
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: You don't want to do that. You don't because people

901
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: come back building. It gets weird, you know. I think

902
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: people understand if you had to trade him for a

903
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: fourth like, it's like, yeah, the market wasn't there because

904
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: the fifth year option. We remember Sam Darnold, they traded

905
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: a second picked up year option. They regretted it right right,

906
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, I think he had the Browns picked it up.

907
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: But clearly you know, the Browns picked it up.

908
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 6: And then he gave up three and a half million

909
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 6: to facilitate trade to Carolina.

910
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: Like, how if I trade a second round pick, I

911
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: have to pick up that fifty year option.

912
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 6: Oh absolutely, twenty five million, which isn't all that much

913
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 6: grand scheme of things when you consider the.

914
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: Quarter is he a twenty five million dollars player?

915
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 6: And three point two million for this year and twenty

916
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 6: five point three three four million for next year.

917
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: Million basically, but that's what you're picking up.

918
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 6: And then the question becomes, Okay, I'm getting a guy

919
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 6: who is content with that arrangement, or am I getting

920
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 6: a guy who says I want I'm not playing for

921
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 6: three point two million this year. I've put in three

922
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 6: good years you traded for me. I'm not playing for

923
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 6: three point two I want, you know, like the Kyler

924
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 6: Murray thing, I'm not setting foot on the field for

925
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 6: four and a half million fourth year of my contract.

926
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: I want a deal.

927
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 5: Now.

928
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: I think I've talked a lot about the Washington but

929
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: let's skip to the third team, the Patriots. I think

930
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: I read it on your site how Drod Meo said, like,

931
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: we need the media. We know our relationship with the

932
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: media needs to be good. It feels like a massive pivot,

933
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: and I'm not even blaming him. I think it's coming

934
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: from ownership of like we need to be buddy buddy

935
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: with everyone. It's like in the NFL, if he starts

936
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: zero to five, no one cares about that. I understand

937
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: the crafts in like internally thinking that that matters because

938
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: they've seen the opposite. But like, if this guy doesn't win,

939
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a disaster. I think they're worried about

940
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: the wrong things right now. And it starts with Robert

941
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: and Jonathan.

942
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 6: Well and I think that Mayo, this is what's going

943
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 6: to be interesting. He can say all of these things

944
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 6: to try to distinguish himself from Bill Belichick. But the

945
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 6: reality is, when you have spent so much of your

946
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 6: career playing for and coaching with Bill Belichick his entire career,

947
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 6: don't realize, yeah, that's right, his entire He took that

948
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 6: three years and he was working in another industry, but

949
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 6: all of his time playing and all of his time

950
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 6: coaching is with Belichick. You don't realize how much being

951
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 6: around him just kind of becomes how you view the

952
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 6: world and how you coach. But as it relates to

953
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 6: the media, you know, the reality is, and we saw

954
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 6: it happen this year when it starts to go sideways,

955
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 6: all those people that you treated without the proper respect

956
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 6: for whatever reason, whatever.

957
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 3: It is, it's a military mindset.

958
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 6: He doesn't want to say anything to compromise and regardless

959
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 6: the grumpiness and being you know, short with people, that

960
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 6: all comes back to roost when you're not winning, So

961
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 6: you do buy yourself a little more grace period if

962
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 6: you're nicer to the media than if you're brand.

963
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: Sale is a good example. He was like calling everyone

964
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: by name and then they they.

965
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 6: Turn Sean McVay. That's the Sean McVay think the name repetition.

966
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: Well, it does work. Media is easy to placate to

967
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: that just call it. Hey, Bill, thanks for the question.

968
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 6: Isn't it funny how easy it is to manipulate the

969
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 6: human organism?

970
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 3: Very John, Aren't you amazed by that? John? But it's why.

971
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: But it's why, it's why so many coaches that study

972
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: psychology and have that mindset you typically do better. And

973
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: say this about Bill, Like, let's talk about Belichium. I.

974
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty crazy, and I understand it was

975
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: pretty ugly last couple years. If you watch them play

976
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: this year, obviously the quarterback sucked and that's his fault.

977
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 3: He's still fucking good.

978
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: You know, he's a he's an elite defensive coach. The

979
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 1: players still really like him. He didn't get a job.

980
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that is that's insanity to me. Well, I honestly,

981
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: he only really had one option, right, and clearly the

982
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: powers that be wanted to know part of them because

983
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: they would have been asked out right.

984
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 6: I think what Robert Kraft said in the press conference

985
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 6: he conducted after they did the joint announcement of the.

986
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: Separation fake hugger. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

987
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 6: But when Kraft came back to answer questions and they said, well,

988
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 6: Belichick alluded to the possibility of taking less power and

989
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 6: staying and Kraft said, well, that just wouldn't work. It

990
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 6: would be too awkward, to be too confusing. And I

991
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 6: think that same mindset applies anywhere else he goes. Because

992
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 6: this is a guy early seventies, so you're a GM.

993
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 6: Let's say you're forty three and out. Yeah, and here's

994
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 6: here's Bill Belichick, who has been in complete control of

995
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 6: the football operation of the Patriots for years. And now, hey,

996
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 6: it's our first draft meeting and I'm the forty three

997
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 6: year old Jim and I'm completely in charge, and the

998
00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 6: head coach works for me.

999
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: That ain't working. It's not working.

1000
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 6: And when it's time to pick the receiver in round

1001
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 6: four and you say, hey, go coaches, the guy I'm

1002
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 6: thinking that and he makes a face or you know, uh,

1003
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 6: and well, I guess I'm not taking that guy. So

1004
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 6: even if he doesn't have the power, he still has

1005
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 6: the power. So I think the question is, for the

1006
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 6: duration of this year, is there an owner that looks

1007
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 6: at where his or her team currently is and decides,

1008
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 6: I'm willing to throw the keys to Bill.

1009
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: Belichick because that's what you have to do.

1010
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 6: You have to throw them the keys and say drive

1011
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 6: wherever you want, however you want.

1012
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: You're in charge. And will somebody be willing to do that?

1013
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1014
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say he is no lock

1015
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five cycle to be a coach in

1016
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: a year, right.

1017
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 6: He's got to get back in the media too, And

1018
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 6: why do you need to do Amazon Thursday Night thirty?

1019
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 6: Owners are watching, right, don't they replace Herbstreet with him?

1020
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 6: And it's not just owners. I think you got to

1021
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 6: get fans behind it when it was starting. You think

1022
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 6: that's the move Amazon? Well, I don't know. I don't know.

1023
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 3: It could be NBC.

1024
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 6: I don't know, but you don't have an opening well Cineworth, No,

1025
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 6: but I think he's better off in studio.

1026
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: You don't think doing a game site now?

1027
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 6: I think he needs to be in a position where

1028
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 6: he's watching the whole league and moderning the whole league

1029
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 6: and commenting on the whole league instead of just focusing

1030
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 6: on one game at a time. I don't know how

1031
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 6: good he'd be doing a game. I think that's because

1032
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 6: we're risky.

1033
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: But I think with the NFL, yeah, all time one

1034
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: hundred team, he was awesome.

1035
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 6: But I think that, and I know that when it

1036
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 6: looked like this season was going to end poorly for

1037
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 6: the Patriots and he was going to be out, I

1038
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 6: posed a very generic question on X if your favorite

1039
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 6: team was looking for a coach in this upcoming cycle,

1040
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 6: would you want Bill Belichick?

1041
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: And it was over seventy percent.

1042
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 6: No. I think he's got to get people out there

1043
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 6: who are football fans to believe that he's the answer,

1044
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 6: because the owners, ultimately, at the end of the day,

1045
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 6: they count on the fans devoting money and time and

1046
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 6: emotion and support and just everything they have to following

1047
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 6: the team. So you have to feel so good about

1048
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 6: the coach, and so I think there's two battles he's

1049
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 6: got to fight. He's got to win the fans and

1050
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 6: then he's got to win an owner. Who's willing to

1051
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 6: say you're in charge.

1052
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: Well, I think there are two spots that everyone's going

1053
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: to talk about, and rightfully so are going to be

1054
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: the Eagles because they got a coach. If they struggle,

1055
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna get fired. And McCarthy's on the last year

1056
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: of his deal. But the Giants and the Jets. Now

1057
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: I know he hates the Jets, but those are two

1058
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: organizations who, let's face it, the day Ball situation got weird. Yeah,

1059
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean you heard about the Wing. We all heard

1060
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: about the Wing thing that was weird and it did

1061
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: not go well. What if they suck again and the

1062
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: Jets like have a chance to be a disaster. That

1063
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: organization has a lot of money. The Giants have Bill

1064
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: Belichick's heartstrings, Jeffrey Lurie has a Boston guy followed them,

1065
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: and Jerry's Jerry Like, I think maybe there is Bill's

1066
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: gonna have more options than I think now talking it

1067
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: out if some of these But now, if the Eagles

1068
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: and Cowboys have success, maybe mcarthy gets extended.

1069
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 3: I think there's just a lot of moving parts with

1070
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: those two teams that you've got. I agree with you.

1071
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 6: You've got three teams in the NFC East that potentially

1072
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 6: end up pursuing Bill Belichick and Jerry Jones has spoken

1073
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 6: openly about it, even after it was clear he was

1074
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 6: keeping Mike McCarthy had.

1075
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: To cross his mind those couple of days when he

1076
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: was in limbo, right, you think.

1077
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And we were talking about it and writing about it,

1078
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 6: and I was finding old quotes where Belichick would praise

1079
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 6: Jerry and Stephen Jones for the team they've put together.

1080
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 6: The Joneses have done a much better job over the

1081
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 6: past ten years than those Belichick.

1082
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 3: Has done putting a team together. Agreed.

1083
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 6: So you know the old parcels saying, you want me

1084
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 6: to cook the meal, but you don't want to be

1085
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 6: shot for the groceries. They have a very well stocked

1086
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 6: kitchen with everything that Bill Belichick would need. He's got

1087
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 6: a young Lawrence Taylor and Michael Parsis. Jerry would I'm

1088
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 6: I'm surprised he didn't, And I know the Eagles were

1089
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 6: aware of the contrast between the Cowboys issuing a statement

1090
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 6: that their coach who has won twelve regular season games

1091
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 6: for three straight years is coming back, and the Eagle's

1092
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 6: not issuing a statement. It's like, why do if you

1093
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 6: wear a functional, normal organization.

1094
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 3: Why do you need to tell the world you're not

1095
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: firing your head SARRANI was closer to getting fired than McCarthy.

1096
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 6: I think that well, and he had to do something. Look,

1097
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 6: he had to convince Jeff Lury that it's gonna work

1098
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 6: when they asked him in his press conference, and I

1099
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 6: can't remember whether it was his season ending press conference

1100
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 6: or it was I think it was probably after the

1101
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 6: loss to the Bucks, the idea that what are you

1102
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 6: going to do to fix it next year? Well, I

1103
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 6: have confidence I'll fix it. Well, that doesn't tell me

1104
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 6: what you're going to do to fix it. You better

1105
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 6: have a better plan when it's time to sit down

1106
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 6: with Jeff Loury, then I'm confident that I'll fix it.

1107
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 6: And whatever Luriy heard from him after they had a

1108
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 6: chance to let the dust settle, it must have worke

1109
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 6: because that's where it went sideways with Doug Peterson. They

1110
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 6: reached an impasse over what they're going to do with coordinators,

1111
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 6: and outgoes Peterson. So I really do think that there

1112
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 6: was some circling the wagons, there was some scrambling, and

1113
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 6: there was some that I still don't know how to

1114
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 6: properly explain that cocktail of emotions that were reflected on

1115
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 6: Jeffrey Leury's face in the fourth quarter of the loss

1116
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 6: to the Buccaneers where it.

1117
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 3: Was coming this year, So.

1118
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 6: How do you how do you take that face and

1119
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 6: turn it into a smile, and he ultimately smiles on

1120
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 6: Nick Sirianni. So Sirianni had to have a hell of

1121
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 6: a plan. And if it doesn't work, I agree with you, Okay,

1122
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 6: it's going to be out.

1123
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: A couple more things I know you got to go

1124
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: is that the Eagles hire Vic Fangio. And I've worked

1125
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: for the Eagles under no circumstances even if they didn't

1126
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: want the guy, would they just rip up the contract

1127
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: and let him go somewhere else that he wanted to go.

1128
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: They would have been like, even if you got to

1129
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: trade us something and the Dolphins and I get that,

1130
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: something weird happened internally. How could they possibly just rip

1131
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: of his contract to let him go to another team?

1132
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 1: Couldn't couldn't use that well, trade us a fifth round

1133
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: pick or something?

1134
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 3: That seemed insane to me.

1135
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 6: I don't think he can do trades for assistant coaches can't,

1136
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 6: but I didn't know the rule, but it still seemed

1137
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 6: odd that they were so willing to let him go.

1138
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 6: And maybe it really was mutual. Maybe it was just

1139
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 6: time to move on. But it speaks to a deeper

1140
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 6: issue with the Dolphins. They're able to put together a

1141
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 6: team that does well in the regular season, they can't

1142
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 6: get past the first round of the playoffs. We asked

1143
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 6: Mike McDaniel about this yesterday and he is very ex

1144
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 6: b at filibustering, whether he intends to or not, and

1145
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 6: I don't think he intends to. But we had him

1146
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 6: for like twenty five minutes and we have five questions.

1147
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 6: This is long, meandering response and I love listening to him,

1148
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 6: but it's hard to get to the meat. The meat

1149
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 6: and one of the things that Sims has been saying

1150
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 6: about the Dolphins they lack an edge, kind of in

1151
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 6: your face toughness. You know, take your lunch money, stuffy

1152
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 6: in a locker. And look, football has evolved away from

1153
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 6: the raw brute force violence, but you still need to

1154
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 6: have a little of that.

1155
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: Best defense in the league arguably won Super Bowl one

1156
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: of them, right, and the Niners are a great defense, right,

1157
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: But you need to have a little of that edge.

1158
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And I just wonder at times whether or

1159
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 6: not the Dolphins have that. Is that where what they're missing.

1160
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 6: It's like the Lions are the best example. If you

1161
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 6: could take the Lions and the Dolphins and merge them together,

1162
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 6: I think you'd have an unstopped here.

1163
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example though, And I've talked to

1164
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 1: scouting buddies about this is Detroit.

1165
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: Tough city, it's cold, not as much to do.

1166
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: One thing Miami has working against it that is not

1167
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: debatable is the city. And unlike basketball or baseball, where

1168
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: you basically play every other day or every day, in football,

1169
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: you got a lot of downtime. And what was some

1170
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: of the stuff coming out VIC didn't think they worked

1171
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: hard enough. That wasn't because they weren't like paying attention.

1172
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: It's because they were screwing around at night and hungover

1173
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: and stuff. I think Miami. One thing I see with

1174
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: the Niners haven't lived in Northern California forever. They don't

1175
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: play in the city. They play in Palo Alto, San

1176
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: There's nothing to do down there. New York City battles this.

1177
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot to freaking do. And even they're kind

1178
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: of in the suburbs Miami is there's nothing quite like

1179
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: it kind of Vegas, but those guys don't live on

1180
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: the strip, and even we've seen a couple incidents in Vegas.

1181
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: I think that city has a lot working against it

1182
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: in this in this modern world and time of we do.

1183
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: With and John I win that way.

1184
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 6: I think that makes it even more important to get

1185
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 6: players who won't be sure the corrupt type guy.

1186
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 3: Not that it's corruption in a bad way, I don't know.

1187
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 6: One of the reasons I think the forty nine ers

1188
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 6: have been so good, you know, like Kyle Shannan, Greg coach,

1189
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 6: master the x's and oh's, and planning the running game,

1190
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 6: planning the pass game. That's great, But I think John

1191
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 6: Lynch's ability to spot guys who are like him, who

1192
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 6: will roll out of bed and kick your ass, who

1193
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 6: don't need to practice tackling. They can tackle whenever, wherever. However,

1194
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 6: the George Kittle mindset, the Nick Bosa mindset, the Fred

1195
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 6: Warner mindset, guys who are ready to go at the

1196
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 6: drop of a hat. They have guys like that on

1197
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 6: both sides of the ball, and I think that's one

1198
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 6: of the reasons why they continue to find ways to

1199
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 6: be around. You know, they haven't gotten to the top yet,

1200
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 6: but they're around every year because they've got these guys

1201
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 6: that are just rougher and tougher than most of the

1202
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 6: guys that you see out there.

1203
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: And on this some of these big names franchise tagged

1204
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: fifth year option guys like are you Kiggins, Chris Jones, Snead.

1205
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 3: Some of these guys are getting traded right.

1206
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 6: Well, there was a report yesterday, I don't know who

1207
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 6: had the report that Snead may be tagged and traded.

1208
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 6: I think there may be some medical stuff with sneed

1209
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 6: that other teams are aware of.

1210
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: That I think will be part of the problem.

1211
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 6: If the Chiefs are hoping you get a big return,

1212
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 6: but you only got one tag, one tag per team.

1213
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: You got Chris Jones. He got ligerious.

1214
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so look, they need to keep Chris Jones.

1215
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 6: You can't, like you can trade Tyreek Hill and reconfigure

1216
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 6: your offense. You can't let Chris Jones go and say, oh,

1217
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 6: we'll still be fine defensively. There's no replacement for that

1218
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 6: big athletic guy in the middle of the line who

1219
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 6: does what Chris Sims likes to say Fox up the play.

1220
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 6: There's no stat for that, but a guy who can

1221
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 6: completely disrupt everything you're doing is more valuable than any

1222
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 6: other guy.

1223
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: Ondep Penis Ones fell out right down the right down

1224
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: the hall when he was running the forty year at

1225
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 1: the Indy. His career has gone up since then. Yes, well,

1226
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: it couldn't go much lower. I appreciate you, Mike, take

1227
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: it easy, great.

1228
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 6: End, Good lord, all right, thanks the volume