1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: The game on the world. You played to win the 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: game as a Jet touchdown. Get your listening to the 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: Official Jets Podcast Jets three sixty production. Only two weeks 4 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: left in the two thousand seventeen NFL season, Ethan Greenberg 5 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: and Eric Allen here bringing you another installment of the 6 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: Official Jets Podcast. Game for you This Sunday e a 7 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: Jet Chargers, but let's talk about last Sunday for a moment. 8 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: The Jets fall in the big easy but great effort 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: down there, great efford, great fight. This is something we've 10 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: seen from Todd Bowls Club throughout the two thousand seventeen season. 11 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people were wandering after 12 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: the Jets went to Denver and we're shut out twenty 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: three and nothing on the one side of the affair 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: where the wheel about to fall off, And know they 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: weren't because Todd Bull said all week I got confidence 16 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: on my guys were gonna go out there and we're 17 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: going down there to get a victory. And indeed the 18 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: Jets had an opportunity to secure a victory. But that's 19 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: a tough place to win it. That is a very 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 1: good football team, that is a Hall of Fame quarterback 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: and ultimately they fell short. Outside of weeks two and 22 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: fourteen against the Denver Broncos and the Buffalo Bills in 23 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: Week two, the Jets have lost by an average of 24 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: seven points per game. So go one possession games, right, 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: So you're five and nine, and then we're gonna look 26 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: back at the season a couple of weeks on this podcast, 27 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: and we're gonna say the Jets very easily could have 28 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: been maybe nine and seven or eight and eight or whatever. 29 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: But with all that being said, I think there is 30 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: a confidence building within the locker room after the game. 31 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: You could feel it, you could sense it, you could 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: hear it. Jermaine Curse, That's something that I'm always going 33 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: to come back to. All he said, one more five games. 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: You surpassed your guys expectations, and I think the biggest 35 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: thing is for us then I'd be a fluid by that, 36 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, So, like we gotta our standard and expectation 37 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: has gotta be higher, and we gotta open hold ourselves 38 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: to the expectation of standard. But when you look at 39 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: game film on Monday and you watched the Jets play 40 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: the Saints, you say, there were a lot of good 41 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: things that happened in this game, and you can immediately 42 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: point to the three turnovers on defense. Leonard Williams recorded 43 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: his first career in exception dr Crows Drew Brees under pressure. 44 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: Here does he pros over the it's intercepted, picked up 45 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: Leonard Williams against Drew Brees. Jamal Adams with a force fumble. 46 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: Three strops to throw, looks like Throse wh Comba makes 47 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: the catch up the ten, The ball pops out Jaball 48 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: Adams force the fumble, The Jets up the ball recovered 49 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: by Jordan Jenkins and Buster Screen with another force fumble 50 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: and he recovered that. Well, let's not bury the lead here. 51 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Bryce Petty for a moment, because this 52 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: was his first start of the two thousand seventeen season, 53 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: his fifth career start. How do you think he fared 54 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: and what do you see out of him from a 55 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: growth perspective from last year to this year? And I 56 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: think it's tough to say what did you see from 57 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: him as far as a growth perspective because it's been 58 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: such a small sample size for one game and a 59 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: tough place to play, Yeah, a tough place to play, 60 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: And I think he did some good thing. I think 61 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: he missed some passes that he would like to have back. 62 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: He's said that. I think he talks about footwork and 63 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: at times that, hey, there are certain throws that I 64 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: have to be on the money with a hundred percent 65 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: of the time, and he missed a few of those. 66 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: He didn't make a couple of beautiful throws. A play 67 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: down the sideline to Eli McGuire, back to throws, Bryce 68 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: Petty looks right, throws a bomb down the right side, 69 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: look for McGuire, He's got it. H'side the fifteen Brice 70 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: Petty throws it right down the chip. Then late in 71 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: the game, the throw to Chad Hanson. Petty back to thront, 72 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: pumps once, looks left, throws down the sideline for Hanson 73 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: and somehow he made the catch. What a catch by 74 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: the rookie chat Hanson. So there were times where Bryce flashed, uh. 75 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: There were other times where you would say he's struggling 76 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: a little bit. I think it's hard to evaluate Bryce 77 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: and make a definitive judgment on what he is or 78 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: what he isn't based on one game Greece. What I 79 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: liked from Bryce Petty and he said this is that 80 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: he felt a lot more confident, and I thought you 81 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: could see that watching him Sunday. I in particular, I 82 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: think about his first down scramble for thirteen yards back 83 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: to throw his price, Petty steps up in the pocket, 84 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: He'll take off and run. He's got the first rounded 85 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: more to the forty to and the Jets have a 86 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: first step. When he felt a little bit of pressure, 87 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: he stepped up and out of the pocket and he 88 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: took off. And that was decisive on his part. And 89 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: last year something that I took aways He tended to 90 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: almost pump fake and second guess himself, and I think 91 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: he would tell you the same thing. So I liked 92 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: seeing that and then moving forward now he ate a 93 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: Sunday is what are you expecting from him? Now that 94 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: he has a week under his belt, And I think 95 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: it'll be better against the Chargers. I think the Jets 96 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,559 Speaker 1: will be better this week, and I thought they played 97 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: pretty well in New Orleans. They have proven to be 98 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: a better home team this season, There's no doubt about it. 99 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: You just look at the records. The Jets are four 100 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: and three at My Life Stadium, and they're not one 101 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: and six on the road. I think that the Jets 102 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: will open up the playbook a little bit. The other 103 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: thing that Bryce has to do, Bryce, but he has 104 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: to do this week is that he can't get so 105 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: many balls bedded down at the line. Cameron Jordan's had 106 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: and he's a great player, but he he had four 107 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: pds and you think of the one on the two 108 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: point conversion that really squandered an opportunity. So you have 109 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: to make sure the throwing lane is there. While the 110 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: Saints had one guy where you're like, wow, he's really 111 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: Ellion disrupt her off the edge. The Chargers hif too. 112 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: They got Joey Bosa, NonStop motor of physical freak, and 113 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: then Melvin Igraham's not bad in his own right. So 114 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: the Jets tackles have a big time assignment this week. 115 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: But I think there's gonna be a time this week 116 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: that Petty will have an opportunity to get the ball 117 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: down the field of Robby Anderson. Twelve targets is five 118 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: catches against the Saints. I would not be surprised if 119 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: they hit on a long one this week. And stemming 120 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: back to last preseason, Petty and Anderson have Anderson led 121 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: the NFL in preseason yards from primarily with Petty throwing 122 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: him the rock. And then when Petty first started in 123 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: Week ten last season, Robby Anderson had that fifty two 124 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: yard reception up the sidelines. So we'll have to see 125 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: what happens in Bryce Petty's first home start. Since we're 126 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: talking a lot about Bryce Petty here on the Official 127 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: Jets Podcast game preview, Chad penny ten, it's time to 128 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: bring you in. What did you think about Petty's for 129 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: start of two thousand seventeen, the fifth start of his career. Well, Eric, 130 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of difficult to evaluate. I 131 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: just when I look at the performance, I do see 132 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: some opportunities there for the Jet to really makes um 133 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: some hay and do some damage there. In seventeen ball game, 134 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: you have to uncharacteristic Saints turnovers and the offense was 135 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: able to produce points in that time period, and that 136 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: to me was the difference in the ball game. And 137 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: when I watched Bryce play, I see some good things. 138 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: One thing I'm still concerned about is just the accuracy 139 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: being able to hit those easy ones. There's probably four 140 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: or five easy passes to make easy completions that some 141 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: of them had actually happened on first down. It creates 142 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: easier second and third down opportunities. Uh, keeps drives alive, 143 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: just kind of makes things a little bit smoother. When 144 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: you're unable to make those makes it so difficult. You 145 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: do see, Bryce makes some good throws down the field, 146 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: some macu throws down the field. Players making plays on 147 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: the field, but those are sporadic. When you don't hit 148 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: your gimmes, you've gotta be able to be a dent 149 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: on your gimmes with them, make those bigger plays down 150 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: the field much more meaningful and impactful. Bryce talks about 151 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: improving his footwork for this weekend's match up against the Chargers. 152 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: What did you see out of his footwork and what 153 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: is the importance of footwork, especially on game day? Well, 154 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: the most important aspect of your footwork is timing. The 155 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: quarterback must listen to his feet, which allows him to 156 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: move through his progression and doesn't keep him on a 157 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: receiver too long or get off of a receiver too quickly. 158 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: And so when I think about footwork, I think about 159 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: a quarterback being able to listen to their feet, move 160 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: through their progressions efficiently, and being able to deliver the football. 161 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: And I can see exactly what Bryce is saying as 162 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: far as footworks and not his footwork and tell him 163 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: to move off of it. Uh, And he's getting to 164 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: his next progression a little bit late because he's not 165 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: allowing his feet to work for him. That's that's a 166 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: struggle for him because typic Clee and the system like 167 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: he played uh in Baylor, if it works, really not 168 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: that important in my opinion, And so when you get 169 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: into the NFL, so it work is extremely important because 170 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: of the pass rush, because of the windows closing down 171 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: so quickly. Your feet really help you out in your 172 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: decision making. Do you anticipate a better performance this week? Now, 173 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: have his second full week of practice, getting the reps, 174 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: having that continual communication with John Morton and Jeremy Bates 175 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: and other weeks to go through the game plan. Now 176 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: he gets an opportunity to play at home the Jets 177 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: throughout the year, as you know, you had have played 178 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,599 Speaker 1: it very well, not Life Stadium. First of all, I 179 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: would hope that the team would come out with the energy. 180 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: I felt like they came out with a really good energy. Um, 181 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: I guess the Saints and played some solid football. Certainly 182 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: wasn't a team that was looking to pack it in 183 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: or anything like that, and you hope that the team 184 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: does the same thing this week, uh facing the Chargers 185 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: team that does have playoffs hopes, and this is another 186 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: good measuring stick game of for the Jets and and 187 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: for Bryson to be able to make some improvement in 188 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: a lot of different areas. Being at home certainly helps, 189 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: and you would hope to see some improvement and really 190 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: see a Jets team kind of take control of a 191 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,239 Speaker 1: ball game. What do you think of the Jets defensive 192 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: efforts down in the Big easy because coming into Sunday's game, 193 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: the Saints were tied for fourth and giveaways. Drew Brees 194 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: only had six interceptions on the year, and the Jets 195 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: defense forced three takeaways. Well, I thought it was a 196 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: a winnable performance. I wouldn't call it a win performance 197 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: because it wasn't com thirty one. Of course, the last 198 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: touchdown you could say didn't count. But it was a 199 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: winnable performance, meaning that they performed well enough to give 200 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: the just a chance to win. And I felt like 201 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: the offense didn't compliment those three turnovers and being able 202 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: to turn those into points, especially there in the third quarter. 203 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: That was the chance for the Jet to really put 204 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: the Saints on their heels, make them nervous. Uh, And 205 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: they just weren't able to do that, and so that 206 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: that was disappointing. UM. I still think that there are 207 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: some mistakes being made that are allowing some plays that 208 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: should be just some screens and things like that that 209 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: maybe seven eight yard games turned into big games, and 210 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: so that's that's something that has to be cleaned up. 211 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: But there's still some really good things happening. I thought 212 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: Leonard Williams play was unbelievable. What a great athletic play. 213 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: He just continues to show his worth. Uh. Game after game. 214 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: Safeties are very aggressive and run support and making really 215 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: good plays there. And so as far as the team 216 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: defensive effort, uh, they certainly did some things to keep 217 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: the Jets in the ball game and and allow this 218 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: game to go to into the fourth quarter with a 219 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: chance to win. I want to get your thoughts on 220 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: tie bowls here. He said after the game that we're 221 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: gonna keep fighting. Obviously this is gonna turn. I believe 222 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: we have a good core group. We just gotta eliminate 223 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: some of the mistakes and some of the situational football 224 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: things and We're gonna be okay. With that being said, 225 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts on that. Also, the 226 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,239 Speaker 1: Jets waving Jeremy Curley, he was suspended four games, eligible 227 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: to come off suspension for getting some more playing time 228 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: for Chad Hanson and our Darius Stewart. And then finally 229 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: Mohammad Wilkerson did not make the trip to New Orleans 230 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: with the team. Todd Bull said, we're dealing with that 231 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: as an internal matter. I can let you know later on. 232 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: So a few things all involving a coach Bulls in 233 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: what he's trying to establish here with the culture. Well, 234 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: I think as a Jet fan, I think you have 235 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: to respect how coach Bowls conducts his business internally externally 236 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: on the field. He is extremely consistent, and I think 237 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: when you're looking at an organization and you're looking for 238 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: stability and long term success, that's what you're looking for. 239 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: To head coach. He's not going to ride an emotional 240 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: role coaster and it's very easy to do that in 241 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: this market and he has resisted that and so I 242 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: respect him for that. Um, you know, the NFL, like 243 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: Coach Parcels used to say, the train that keeps moving 244 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: and you're either on it or you're off up it. 245 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: And so when it comes to players like Wilkerson, what 246 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: comes players like Curly If you're not handling your business 247 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: off fulfilled, this train is leaving. That's how professional sports works, 248 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: especially in the NFL. But I when I look at 249 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: Coach Bowls and what he's been able to do, I 250 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: look at the first two years of his three year stint, 251 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: where the Jet three able to win ten games, and 252 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: then the second year just kind of blew up. He 253 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: did what he needed to do, the organization did what 254 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: they needed to do as far as push the reset 255 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: buttons um and revamp this roster. And so when I 256 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: look at it, I look at this is really year 257 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: one for Coach Bowls and rebuilding this team and creating 258 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: a playoff contender. I don't really look at this year 259 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: as combining it with the first two years. I pushed 260 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: the reset button and see where the team is, the 261 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: organization is, and I think it's on an upward trend. 262 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: And Uh, I feel really good about where Coach Bowles is, 263 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: where what he's done, how this team is playing, how 264 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: they respond to him. Uh, the pieces that he has 265 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: in place with his staff, as well as the pieces 266 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: that are in place with the team. UM. And it's 267 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: not based upon setimo expectations. I don't look at and go, well, 268 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: they were expected only to win one or two games 269 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: and they beat It has nothing to do with that. 270 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: It has to do with the work that's been put 271 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: in the games that have been played, the effort that's there, 272 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: and and you look at the plays that have been made, 273 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: and so that's what I believe. How do you expect 274 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: this team to rebound this weekend against the Los Angeles 275 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: Chargers team that's come across country in week sixteen, and 276 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: how do you go about attacking these guys? Well, I 277 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: think the charges of ball. He's struggled on the East Coast, UM, 278 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: and I think this is a winnable game to focus on. 279 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon and Keenan Allen Rivers had a you know, 280 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: struggled last week and three interceptions against the Chiefs. UM. 281 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: You would like to see the Jets be able to 282 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: create a couple more turnovers. They did a good job 283 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: that against the SATs. If they can do that, they 284 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: certainly have a chance to win this ball game. And finally, Chad, 285 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: I talked to Todd Bowls about this week, and he said, 286 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers one of the smartest competitors I face. From 287 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: a defensive play calling standpoint, himself and Casey Rogers, what 288 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: do you like most about Rivers and what can the 289 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: Jets take advantage of, specifically with his aggressiveness at times. Well, 290 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: what I've always liked about Rivers, Number one is he's 291 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: always been able to succeed and be successful with an 292 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: unorthodox type of throwing motion. And the throwing motion people 293 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: said he couldn't be successful with, He's always been Philip 294 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: Rivers and he's never changing that. To me, I respect that. Secondly, 295 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: I really respect his toughness. He is a guy that's 296 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: going to stand in that pocket and regardless of what 297 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: is in front of his face, he has the ability 298 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: to make throws all over the field with under a 299 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: lot of durests and pressure. And so it's one thing 300 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: to get to a guy, but when you're going trying 301 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: to get to a guy that's that tough, he can 302 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: make you pay. And so the Jets gonna have to 303 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: be judicious on how they defend Rivers and this Chargers 304 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: offense because he does a really good job under pressure. 305 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: He throws with anticipation, he throws with timing. Uh, He's 306 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: he's a passer, He's a true passer and he's that's 307 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: why he's had such a great career. So it's a 308 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: big time challenge for this young defense. Merry Christmas to 309 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: you and your family. We'll talk to you next week. Absolutely, Eric, 310 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Brien's is always good getting a quarterbacks 311 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: perspective on the play of a quarterback. So uh, Pennington 312 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: is emphasized this continually, is that you gotta make the 313 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: passes that are considered gimmes. And in National Football League, 314 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: let's see if Petty can do this this week and 315 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: has the Chargers. Yeah, and the Chargers aren't really known 316 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: for their secondary you mentioned it before. Melvin Ingram and 317 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa lead the way up front. And last week 318 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: when the Chargers travel to Arrowhead Stadium, the Chiefs really 319 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: utilized their ground game with Kareem Hunt, who rushed for 320 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: a hundred fifty five yards. And we saw the Jets 321 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: try to established the run and have success on the 322 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: ground early in New Orleans. Well, then touchdown drive in 323 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: the first half of the great drive. Is that you 324 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: had the stats on that wealth plays, ten of which 325 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: were rushes, and then blal Pal got the two yard 326 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: touchdown after that todown run. Focusing on the Chargers now 327 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: for a second. Is earlier when we talked about the 328 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: Chiefs on the Official Chess Podcast game preview, they were 329 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: really hot, then really cold. The Chargers are quite the opposite. 330 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: They were really cold Owen four, relocation to Los Angeles, 331 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: new head coach, and then they were one of the 332 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: hottest teams in football. And right now they've gone from 333 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: Owen four to seven and seven and that offense runs 334 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: through Philip Rivers and Keenan Allen. Time to hit the phone. Hello, 335 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: Nick hig, It's Ethan Greenberg and Eric Allen with the Jets. 336 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: How's it going, guys? Good? Thank you Nick Hardwick. You 337 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: can follow him on Twitter at hardwin or if you 338 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: want to pronounce it hardwin a you can do either 339 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: or Nick. Thanks so much for Joe winning us right now. Guys, 340 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. I appreciate it. So can you 341 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: just kind of take us through the ebbs and flows 342 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: of this Los Angeles Charger season? Yeah? Absolutely. It was 343 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: a wild start to the season. First off, with the relocation, 344 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: having a new head coach, having a defensive coordinator change, 345 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: a lot of staff changes, getting comfortable in a new city, 346 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: I to be locating, new training camp location, all of it. 347 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: Amidst all of that, the team got off to a 348 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: very rocky start, going Owen four to start it off, 349 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: and then they got on the road and went to 350 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: New York and had a fourth quarter come from behind 351 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: victory over another oh and four football team, the New 352 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: York Giants, and that really started turning the season around. 353 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: Went on to beat the Raiders and the Broncos before 354 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: losing the Paths. And at the beginning of the season, 355 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: you've got head coach Anthony Lynn coming in and he 356 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: came from Buffalo. They had the number one rush attack 357 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: of the National Football League with Lyshawn McCoy, and you 358 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: can tell right away that he was trying to hose 359 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: that offense onto the Chargers Ken Wizz and Hunt offensive 360 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: coordinator Philip Rivers, and he wanted it to be a 361 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: run first offense, and you could tell first second down 362 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: they were running the football. At one point in this season, 363 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: it was like of their first down plays were runs, 364 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: and then it would put the team behind the sticks 365 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: because everybody seemed to know, they said, all right, if 366 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, we've got to get the keys 367 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: to the car. Back to Philip Rivers Keenan Allen finally 368 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 1: appeared healthy for the first time all season, and he 369 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: became virtually unstoppable. Over a four game span, Keenan had 370 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: thirty nine catches, five seven yards, four touchdowns. I mean, 371 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: he was remarkable in that time period. And they figured 372 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: out that it needs to be a pass first offense 373 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: that they're going to have any success. The defense started 374 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: finding themselves. Gus Bradley came in new defensive coordinator, former 375 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. But last week they kind 376 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: of fell on their faces in a playoff light game 377 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: at Arrowhead Saturday night, and it was a real disappointed 378 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: loss for the guys. They look young, they look nervous 379 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time in a 380 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: game that had a lot writing on it, they failed 381 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: to show up completely. Nick, what can you say about 382 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: the job that Anthony Lynn has done there this year? 383 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: An assistant here under Rex Ryan running backs coach, very well, 384 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: aliked with an organization, and he was very successful for 385 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,239 Speaker 1: Rex is an offensive coordinator with the Bills. How has 386 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: he been able to keep the ship afloat the thing 387 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 1: that Anthony Lynn has done so well to me as 388 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: he stayed true to himself. He's unabashed about his comments 389 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: towards the guys. He's very direct, not afraid to say 390 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: what he thinks, and he's very even killed. And when 391 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: you're even killed, you have a good chance to get 392 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: through those downtimes. What I want to know is, how 393 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: does Anthony Lynn prevent this loss becoming two losses or 394 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: three losses? How much did it take out of this team? 395 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: How do they prevent that moving forward as they go 396 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: and play a Jets team who has played well at 397 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: home so far this year. Yeah, exactly they have. And 398 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: that's what Anthony Lynn. I've asked him before about trap games. 399 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: Got done beaten the Dallas Cowboys and had the Cleveland 400 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: Browns the next week, and I said, coaches their potential 401 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: for a trap game, and he laughed at me, right 402 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: in my face on the post game interview and he goes, Nick, 403 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: we're five and six. We don't have time for a 404 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: trap game. He's like, we're still trying to prove that 405 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: we're a good football team. I do believe their confidence 406 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: was maybe shaking a touch last week against Kansas City 407 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: because they were the betting favorite. They were one of 408 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: the Darling's. As you're working later into the season that 409 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: you could hear the national conversation go and this Chargers team, 410 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: they've got a chance to be Pittsburgh, lookout New England. 411 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: This team's hot. They got a good day, they got 412 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: a great quarterback, and then they fell on their faces 413 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: and they've got to regain that confidence. I don't at 414 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: all believe this will be a trap game. I take 415 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: the playoff implications are still on the line for them. 416 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: It's a very clear picture as to what has to 417 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: happen for the Chargers to make the playoffs. On the 418 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, Nick, what kind of changes 419 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: has Gus Bradley installed in his first year? And upfront? 420 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa had a tremendous rookie season. What have you 421 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: seen from him in his progressions in year two? Both 422 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: as a monster, He's an absolute freak show of a 423 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: human as far as the way he's put together. I 424 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: described him before as the moose, and we say the 425 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: moose is loose when he gets going. His techniques are 426 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: derived on what the offensive lineman. Their techniques are how 427 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: they plan to attack you. He's not flashy's not jump around. 428 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: He is going to bul rush you and use his 429 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: hands so effectively to capture the edge. And the thing 430 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: about him is he's got as much talented as anybody 431 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: in the league, but he hustles as much as anybody 432 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: in the league. And that's how you take talent and 433 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: take it to an elite level. And that's what Joey 434 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: Bosa has been at to do. Jets moved the ball 435 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: pretty well on the ground against the New Orleans Saints. 436 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: Ran a lot of twelve personnel packages with two tight ends, 437 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: brought in an extra alignement and said we're gonna come 438 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: right at you. New Orleans played a lot of coverage 439 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: trying to take away Bryce Petty going deep to guys 440 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: like Robbie Anderson. But do you think potentially the Jets 441 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: could have some success running a football against the Chargers 442 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: team who at times has been suspected against the run. Oh, 443 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: I would absolutely expect that. Yeah, Chargers coming into this 444 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: contest are going to be twenty nine in the league 445 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: and rushing yards allowed. So if I'm the Jets, the 446 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: thing I would absolutely look to do is bring in 447 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: twelve personnel bringing bait packages and try to run it 448 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: down their throat. And while you're doing that, if you could, 449 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: you know on the field you can wear them down. 450 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 1: You're also keeping Philip rivers off at the field, which 451 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: is a pretty good tool to use. I want to 452 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: know about Keenan Allen and the weapons around him, because 453 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen is a guy that's been often injured and 454 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: then the season he breaks out. If Keenan Allen's having 455 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: a successful day, it's very difficult to slow the chargers down. 456 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: If he's able to be contained what he was last week, 457 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: he was contained to get the City Chiefs, then you 458 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: got a good chance to slow the other guys down. 459 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: The Tyrrelle Williams the Travis Benjamin do. You would think Travis, 460 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: with his small stature, would be a possession receiver, but 461 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: he's anything but a possession receiver. He's a deep threat. 462 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: He's a vertical guys take the lid off the defense, 463 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: and Tyrelle Williams is kind of a long striding receiver, 464 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: incredibly fast when he gets in the open field. He's 465 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: good on crossing routes both shallow and deep, but those two. 466 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: Both of them aren't really guys that beat man pressed. 467 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: Keenan's the man press meter. So if teams want to 468 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: beat the Chargers, I think what what happened last week 469 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: is Bob Sutton, defensive coordinator for the Kansas City Chiefs. 470 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: They like to play a two man look with two 471 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: deep safeties and press across the board. Get a chance 472 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: to go either inside out with coverage on Keenan and 473 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: sometimes put three on him and make the other guys 474 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: beat man pressed because they're not very good at it, 475 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: to be honest, all right, So we've gotta ask one 476 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: question about Philip Rivers. What's different about the ultra competitive 477 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: Rivers here is he continues to be so productive late 478 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: in his career and it doesn't get any easier for 479 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: the Jets over this final three game strategy just finished 480 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: up with Drew Brees and no, no, here they go. 481 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: They got a deal with Philip Rivers, and then they 482 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: finished up the season with a guy in New England 483 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: by the name of Tom Brady. Right, yeah, good luck 484 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: with those quarterbacks there, Philip Rivers. The difference to me 485 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: this year when he's having success is that he's being patient. 486 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: I only have to preface that with having success, because 487 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: last week got intercepted three times and two of them 488 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: were in the attempt to make a comeback, and he's 489 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna go down swing and he didn't 490 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: really care so much about his statistics. But the thing 491 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: about him when he was having success and you were 492 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: starting to hear his name coming to the m v 493 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: P conversation is that he's been patient and he's picked 494 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: his spots and he's really just dictated to the defense 495 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: that I'm going to make the completion or you're not 496 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: going to get the ball. He's been very mindful of 497 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: taking care of the ball. Lost that patience last week 498 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: because it kind of turned into a shootout with the 499 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. But why he's able to be patient 500 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: is because his defense has been so strong today they 501 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: had going into the Kansas City Chiefs game, they had 502 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: the number two scoring defense in the National Football League, 503 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: and that has allowed him to trust them and he 504 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like he needs to go out and put 505 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: seven points on the board every single time the offense 506 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: takes the field, which when you're running that engine that hot, 507 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: eventually something's going to break down. And so now he's 508 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: able to just kind of pick his spot to burst 509 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: off from the top light, if you will. But most 510 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: of the time he's just driving that f two fifty 511 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: down the road, kind of at a casual pace, listening 512 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: to some country music, picking it all in and when 513 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: he's in command, that's kind of what he's doing. All right. 514 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: That's Nick Hardwick, a former San Diego Charger now covering 515 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers. You can follow him on Twitter 516 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: at Hardwinner or hardwin A. That's with one end. Thank 517 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us, and we'll see a Sunday, 518 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: all right, Thank you so much, guys. Alrighty, A couple 519 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,719 Speaker 1: of things stick out to me, but I want to 520 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: touch on what Nick Hardwick had to say about the 521 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: receiver's opposite, Keenan Allen, and we talked about it a 522 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: little bit. But outside of Keenan Allen, that's what the 523 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: chiefs did. They kind of took him out of the 524 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: game and then they said, hey, Phil, may you throw 525 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: to the other guys and they couldn't climb over that hume. 526 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: If you know, Philly maybe fail maybe Philly p Ribs, 527 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call him. But except you have 528 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: to remember this is that Mike Williams, the Clemson wide 529 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: receiver from last year. He's been hurt almost all years, 530 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: so he hasn't really seen a lot of the field. 531 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: Maybe he's that piece that the Chargers are missing. Yeah, 532 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: but we won't we won't be playing on Sunday. Well 533 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: to see how that progresses for the Chargers. They're a 534 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: dangerous team. But again, as Nick Hardwick said, Anthony Lynn 535 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: has done a tremendous job because a lot of teams 536 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: would have folded their tents after starting zero on four, 537 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: after having uh been forced to move the third tents 538 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: up north in southern California from San Diego to l A, 539 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: going to a new headquarters, playing in a new stadium 540 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: that seats on their thirty thousand people where a lot 541 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: of times that look like the environment was a practical 542 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: road game for the Chargers, But they rebounded, they rallied, 543 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: and here they are still in a position to compete 544 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: for a playoff birth but this is definitely gonna be 545 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: a big time test for their medal in their character. 546 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: Where do you think the Jets go from a game 547 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: plan perspective to attack this Chargers defense and vice versa, 548 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: How do you expect the Jets to attack Phil Rivers. Well, 549 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: I think you want Petty to get in some rhythm early. 550 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: I think you want to have some success on first 551 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: and second down. That's one area. The other thing is 552 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: you got to make sure those defensive ends don't get off. 553 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: I think balance is going to be the key for 554 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: the Jets offense. I think the running backs could have 555 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: a big day against the Chargers. Switch over the defensive 556 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: side of the ball. I think you gotta take away Gordon, 557 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: you gotta take away Keena now and make other guys 558 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: beat you on that game. And that's all we have 559 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: on the Official Jets Podcast game preview again Jets Chargers 560 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: this Sunday, Christmas, eve Day, Happy Holidays, and almost a 561 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: happy New Year. Will wait to wish you that though 562 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: until the final regular season game preview on the Official 563 00:29:41,920 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: Jets Podcast. Fer Eric Allen, I'm Ethan Greenberg and just 564 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: they need fig They didn't, they didn't, didn't did it? 565 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: They did it? They did it to Tostom. Just don't 566 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: co