1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge, presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing and it is awards season, Medal Season, 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Medal season. Yeah right, we're coming fresh off the Olympics. 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: A lot of medals have been handed out, so we're 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: going to hand out our medals for Ravens training camp 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: now that it is in the books. 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, training camp officially closed after practice on Thursday. Now 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: you kind of shift into more of a regular season 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: prep mode. 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 3: You know, there's still some time between. 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: Now season game when they have the joint practices in 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: Green Bead. 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 3: There's more, there's more time. 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: But in terms of the official calendar, this is when 15 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: camp ends and you start really getting ready a little 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: bit more so for that season opener and the regular 17 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: season roster cut down day is still a couple of 18 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: weeks away. But we wanted to hand out our medals 19 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: of training camp now that it's concluded. 20 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: If you decide it, if you were to compete in 21 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: the Olympic sport, and you were going to earn a 22 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: medal in any sport, what would it be like when 23 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: I have the best chance, best chance of getting a 24 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: bronze squeaking out a bronze. Maybe you could like trip somebody. 25 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: I mean no, it means I mean none. 26 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 4: Best. 27 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: We're saying best chance, secret, nize swimming. I was a 28 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: pretty good break I was cancer from Australia. Yeah, I would, 29 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: I would. 30 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 4: Maybe that was you. 31 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: Maybe the break dancing, I'll go with that. I think 32 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: break dancing that really reminded me a lot of you. 33 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. 34 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: So someone doesn't ask that question of this, they're looking 35 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: to also be yes, actually. 36 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: I actually don't have one. I actually don't have one. 37 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: Put a pin it, Okay, come up by the end 38 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: of this. 39 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 4: Okay, I get it. 40 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, just popped into my head. All right, 41 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: so let's get into it here. Best Camp. We're gonna 42 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: do a gold, silver, bronze, best training camp. 43 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 4: Who's taking your gold? 44 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: We gotta go for a fresh order, right, Okay. 45 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: All right, okay, bron Bronze. I gave it to break 46 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: In Stevens. See really yep, and we did not compare notes. 47 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 4: We did not did not. 48 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: It'll be funny if we have the top staying top three. 49 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: I mean, look, pret you will. That's interesting. Brandon Stevens, Uh, 50 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: look at he was a guy that when you come 51 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: into training camp. You know, Marlon hell Marlon Humphreyes is back. 52 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: You draft Nate Wiggins, and Marlon brand that, I'm sorry, 53 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: establish himself as a starting caliber corner last year. 54 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: But there's still pressure on him. 55 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 4: And I think that like in a contract year. 56 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: He's in a contract year. 57 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 2: You draft a first round pick and all that stuff, 58 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: and like, man, he has just been He's practice every day. 59 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: He's been so reliable. There's very few passes completed on him. 60 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: He's ultra competitive. I think he's like I thought he 61 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 2: was great last year and he is taking it to 62 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: another level. 63 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: In my mind, he is scrappy. 64 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: I mean he's he's I think again, there are flashes 65 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: of training camp, especially early on, when Marlon Holper was 66 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: getting to pick every practice right and Marlon looked really 67 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: good at the beginning of training camp, I thought, and 68 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: it has been good. But if we're just talking consistency 69 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: every day, competing, challenging the ball in the air, breaking 70 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: up passes every single day, Brand Stevens is that guy 71 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: like he is, I don't think the Ravens have another corner. 72 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: Nate Wiggins has this snack too, but when the ball's 73 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: in the air, Brand Stevens ain't sweating at all. He's 74 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: competing right through that ball, right through that catch, and 75 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: he just took on all challengers. I mean, he took 76 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: on tight ends, he took on you know, Zay Flowers, 77 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: who's a very different kind of guy to cover. He 78 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: took on Rashaw Bateman. You know, anybody who stepped opposite 79 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: of him. Had a hard time catching that ball. And 80 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: I thought he had a very strong camp. But it's 81 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: gonna have a really good year. 82 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm foreshadowing here, just the touch. But I thought 83 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: the very of the secondary it was excellent. 84 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: The Ravens secondary was a star camp. 85 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you're we put together a list 86 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: of the ten standouts from training camp, and like half 87 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: the list was guys in the secondary. 88 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: He just run through the whole secondary. 89 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: I mean we were like, we shouldn't probably put the 90 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: whole secondary, it's just losided. 91 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: But it was like, that's true. What it was. 92 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: Well, look, i mean I'll go to my silver here 93 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: and it's Marlin. 94 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: Really okay, okay, so we don't have the same. 95 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, my silver was Marlin. I mean, Stevens was great, 96 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: but you thought that Marlin had a better camp. 97 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 4: Than Stevens. 98 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing also about Marlin that you got 99 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: to keep in mind. He came into training camp and 100 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 2: we were all wondering, like when we were doing this 101 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: podcast at the start of training camp, is like, what's 102 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: Marlin Humphrey status? 103 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: Is he going to be on the field? 104 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: Because remember now, he like didn't practice hardly at all 105 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: during the entire off season and last year he was 106 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: dealing with the injuries basically all season, and so you're wondering, like, Okay, 107 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: he was hurt all last year for the most part, 108 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: barely practiced during the off season, what's his situation? Like, 109 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: is he going to be able to be on the field? 110 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 3: Is he going to be reliable? I agree, and he 111 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: looks great first week. 112 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 4: I think he was probably the best in camp. 113 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: Like he's he's looked great. 114 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: He's come up with more interceptions and that's been kind 115 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: of a joke, like he's not an interception magnet in 116 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: his career, but like he did come up with a ton, 117 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 2: especially early in camp, got Lamar Jackson a handful of occasions. 118 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 2: And he's dropped about ten pounds. He said, he's practiced 119 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: every day. Yep, he looks like he looks like Marlon 120 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: Humphrey from two or three years ago. 121 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I think Marlon has had a really strong camp. 122 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: If we're handing out medals, I'll give him my pewter. 123 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, that's right, Blue bron Okay, So who you 124 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: got is your taking silver? 125 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: I mean a dafe from the start to finish, the 126 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: camp has been an absolute menace. I mean there's a 127 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: point when coaches had to be like, all right, you 128 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: got to you got back off a little bit, man like, 129 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: you're just you're just wrecking practice here, getting a little 130 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: too close to the quarterbacks. 131 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 4: You gotta take it down a notch. 132 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And uh, you know we've seen this from 133 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: our dapae in previous O tas and camps. He's often 134 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: made these lists for the standout of the week or 135 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: whatever whatnot. Zach Orr said pretty definitively, this was his 136 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: best training camp, yeah, of his career going into year 137 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: four now. 138 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: And uh and I agree. I thought that he. 139 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley I thought had a pretty solid camp, you know, 140 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: especially just in terms of availability, consistency of practicing. I 141 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: thought Ronnie had a pretty strong camp. But he had 142 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: his hands full with the dafe Oway day in and 143 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: day out. That dude, there's the reason why Chuck Smith 144 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: says always getting double digit sacks this year because he's 145 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: going to get more reps. The town is there, he's 146 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: ready for the breakout that we've all been waiting for. 147 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 4: It's coming. 148 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I thought he was. I thought he 149 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: was really good in camp too. 150 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: I also liked you know, he's always been a guy 151 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: whose athleticism is off the charts. But to me, like 152 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: once the pads came on, he continued to grow and 153 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: continues to make plays and continue to be disrupting. 154 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: You see him winning in different ways. You know, I've 155 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: seen him win with power. I've seen him when with 156 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: rip moves. I've seen him when with just burst speed 157 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: off the edge. A lot of different things he's he 158 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: has really added to his repertoire. It's pretty wide at 159 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: this point. 160 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: Well, look, there's a lot on his shoulders. You David 161 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: Ajaba up to this point hasn't been clear for game action, 162 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: and there's a quite a big question mark on him 163 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: and his status and what the Ravens are going to get, 164 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 2: you know, out of him. Hopefully it's a lot. But 165 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: you know, we haven't been able to see it in 166 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: a game yet. You know, they've got young players, Tavis 167 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: Robinson and Desa. Isaac is working his way back into 168 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: the mix. Kyle van Noy, of course, you know the 169 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: veteran but but a lot of that pass rush responsibility 170 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: is going to be on our Dafeo way and and 171 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: the Ravens. The Ravens really need him to basically take 172 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: this training camp, the silver medal that he got from you, 173 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: a training camp and carry that into the season and 174 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: have the type of year that like, I mean, this 175 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: is lofty, but what Justin Attebike did last year, he 176 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: and his. 177 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 4: Fourth year, like he's capable of that. 178 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 179 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: I think that, like he's been, he's shown signs and 180 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: if he can stay healthy and he's i think progressed 181 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: and added a lot to his tool belt, I think 182 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: the potential is there and the Ravens need him to 183 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: go do that. 184 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 4: Yep, totally agree. All right, the gold. 185 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: Medal, I do think we're going to have the same gold. 186 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: This one goes to a friend at the lounge, recent friend, 187 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: recent friend of the lounge. 188 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Isaiah likely for me, Isaiah likely, Yes, that's correct. Yeah, 189 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: both he came on the podcast and he got the 190 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: podcast bump, you know, in our hearts and minds, and 191 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: we had to give him the gold medal. 192 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: Look, the guy's been a monster from start to finish. 193 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: I mean it feels like every practice he made multiple 194 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: big plays, a number of one handed, just ridiculous catches. 195 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: This training camp absolutely cemented the notion that the Ravens 196 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: have to find ways to get he and Mark Andrews 197 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: to make them both featured parts of this offense. 198 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 4: They have to. 199 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: He cemented that if there was any question coming into it, 200 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: it's not a question anymore. 201 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 202 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 2: I mean I felt really strongly coming in a camp 203 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: that the Ravens need to do that, and somehow I 204 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: feel even more in that direction. And I think that, 205 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: you know, I've had some people, whether it's on Twitter 206 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: or text or whatever, like give me a slight hard 207 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: time because like, you guys are hyping up Isaiah likely 208 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: like crazy this camp, and I'm like, that's just the 209 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: facts of what I'm seeing. Hey, he has been. He 210 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: has been the Ravens best player of camp. He's been 211 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: all over the field. He's been making catches in a 212 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: variety of different ways. He's explosive and I think that 213 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: he just really looks poised to be a massive piece 214 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: of the offense. In all seriousness, I think fans and 215 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: listeners should go back and check out the interview we 216 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: did with him, because we had a good conversation with 217 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: him about how the Ravens will use him, and he 218 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: made the point that he doesn't just see himself as 219 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: his heighth end. He sees himself as a chess piece 220 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: who can line up as an inline blocker. He can 221 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: line up out wide, he can line up in the slide. 222 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: He can even line up in the backfield if needed. 223 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of different ways the Ravens can 224 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: use him. And Mark Andrews has some of those same 225 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: attributes as well, but likely is is a matchup problem 226 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: and I think that, like I really will be curious 227 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: to see, like, after the first month of this season, 228 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: what's the percentage that the Ravens are running plays with 229 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: both him and Andrews on the field, Like what in 230 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: your mind will that look like? Is it fifty percent, 231 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: is it thirty percent, is it seventy percent? 232 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,599 Speaker 1: I don't think it's quite fifty percent, but yeah, I 233 00:09:58,640 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: don't know. 234 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: Which is which is. I kind of agree but like. 235 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 4: I want those guys on the field. 236 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,599 Speaker 2: But like we sit there and it's kind of in 237 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: my mind, I'm like, why would it not be fifty percent? 238 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 2: Because like, if we're sitting here saying, like, there're. 239 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: Two of the top three targets on the team, right, 240 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: and like two of the best offensive weapon. If you're 241 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: teams assuming that Bateman and Za, you almost always have 242 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: two wide receivers out there, not almost a lot, like 243 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: I want, I want those two guys out there right 244 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: almost every play. 245 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, It's it's tough because then, of course, you 246 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: know you have a powerful guy in the backfield of 247 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: Derek Henry, and you'd like the idea of putting Patrick 248 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: Card out there and just running downhill like that team exactly. 249 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: Well, we will see something the likes of which we've 250 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: never seen before. I mean, they did that on the 251 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: Greg Groman right with the running scheme. I mean maybe 252 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: that's maybe it's tight end you look in Baltimore. 253 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 254 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: I don't know that it'll be how much it will be, 255 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: but I just I think that the point is clear. 256 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: The Raves need to find ways to get both those 257 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,599 Speaker 2: guys on the field. 258 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, next category, most improved. Now, this is 259 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: most improved over the course of training camp. Okay, it's 260 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: not most improved since last year. It's not most improved 261 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: there with the whole summer in the OTA's mini camp. No, Ken, 262 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: it's most improved over the course of training camp. Who's 263 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: taken your bronze? 264 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: I gave it to rookie second round pick Roger Rosegarden. Okay, 265 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: I thought he he was a guy that you know. 266 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 2: I thought over the course of the off season practices 267 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: was he was rookie and he's kind of learning his 268 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: way and getting comfortable and all that stuff. And with 269 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: the offensive line, I really think it's you need to 270 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: need to be more physical practices. 271 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 3: You need the pads to be on. 272 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: And I think as camp has gone on, you've seen 273 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: him get more reps with the ones, and I think 274 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: you've seen him hold his own better. 275 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: I think he's just the guy told me his own 276 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: pretty well. Yeah, And you're really seeing his mobility too. 277 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: I've noticed, like it was one one play the other day, 278 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: he was pooling from the right side into really kind 279 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: of where the guard would would block into that gap, 280 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: and I saw him like pounce into the hole. I mean, 281 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't like he just ran. He did like a 282 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: little leaping pounce. 283 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 4: I was like that guy. 284 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and and you see, especially getting Derrick 285 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: Henry on the edges of the offense and defense is 286 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: going to be a. 287 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: Part of this offense. 288 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: That's where you want this guy on the edge running downhill, 289 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: mowing over you know, that slot corner taking that guy on, 290 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: and Rosengarten being able to get out and move in 291 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: that mobility that he has to kind of lead the 292 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: way on some of those outside edge runs. 293 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: Will also make a difference. 294 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: I thought he was very, very improved over the course 295 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: of training. 296 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: Can we said kind of at the start of camp 297 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 2: like he's going to have his work cut out for 298 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: him to unseat Pat McCarey for the starting job there. 299 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: McCarey's the veteran player, he's done it before. 300 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: And I don't know that he's completely done it yet, 301 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: but I think it's dark close. 302 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: I think he's done it. I mean Pat McCarey's been 303 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: taking the snaps at the center. Yeah, a lot of 304 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: the snaps with Tyler Linnerbaum out. If it was still 305 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: they were worried about Rosengarten, I think now they know 306 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: what McCarey offers a right tackle right, so this doesn't 307 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: have to get work there. But and so they want 308 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: to get Roger speed up Roger Rose and Garten's progress, 309 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: which I think has worked. But if they were worried 310 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: about Roger, I think that they would still be McCarey 311 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: would still be getting more actional at right tackle. 312 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: Maybe, but center, I think that they also want to 313 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: make a decision about their their center in general, their 314 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: backup center is how the Landardbam is hurt. You know, 315 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 2: cam Ben Cleveland be that guy. McCarry hadn't taken a 316 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: lot of snaps there, so. 317 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 4: I thought it was good to get him center snaps. 318 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: Also, yeah, he hasn't been playing there much, and so 319 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: I think that they're like, if this guy is going 320 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: to be our backup center, then we need to get 321 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: reps there. 322 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: My guess right now is that Week one there's. 323 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 2: Probably going to be a rotation with Rose and Garten 324 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 2: and macare They've done that in the past, and I 325 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: think that there's a chance. So I think it's I 326 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: don't know it's fifty to fifty, but I think there's 327 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: probably some rotation that exists. 328 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 4: The different looks. 329 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, silver medal, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 330 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 4: My brons went to David Ajabo. 331 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 3: Okay. 332 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: I thought over the course of camp especially, and a 333 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: lot of this has helped related as he's coming back 334 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: from the knee injury. And this week David a Jabo 335 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: was strung together a couple really good practices in a row, 336 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: had really a sax strip in Wednesday's practice, had multiple 337 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: wins clean wins the day before that. I think that 338 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: David Ajabo has definitely progressed over the course of this 339 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: training camp. 340 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 341 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: I think that the next step for him is obviously 342 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: the medical piece, you know. 343 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean, and you can tell he's stronger in that regard, 344 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: I think as well. Yeah, he's definitely made progress. 345 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that. 346 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, silver metal. 347 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: I went with our Darius Washington as my most improved 348 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: player of the course of camp. I didn't give him 349 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: the gold because I think he's practiced really well in 350 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: previous years. Yeah, you know, like I don't know that 351 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: he's like changed all that much as a player. His 352 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: instincts have been great, you know, He's he's been kind 353 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: of a ball magnet here in the second half of 354 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: training camp, getting had to pick six against Josh Sjohnson when. 355 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: He undercut a route. 356 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: You know, he's just been making plays and especially as 357 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: the Ravens have had you know, they had Kyle Hamilton 358 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: got banged up there for he only missed one practice, 359 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: but you know, as they've had injuries, Arthur Malette went 360 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: down with a knee injury. So you've seen Ourdarius play 361 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: more in that slot role he's been, he's been a 362 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: standout and one of the Ravens more he went from 363 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: I didn't really think he was much of a bubble player. 364 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: I thought he was pretty safe. But if if he 365 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: was on the bubble, he has definitely cemented his spot 366 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: in my opinion, because he's improved over the course camp. 367 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he was on the bubble and he's 368 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: not on my most improved, but our next category here 369 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: is best bubble player. 370 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, I didn't think he was really on the 371 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: bubble to begin with. Well, I thought he was pretty 372 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: clearly he was the third. He was the number three 373 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: safety when training camp started. Then they signed Eddie Jackson 374 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: and in my opinion he was number four. He was, 375 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: but now that did put him in competition with like 376 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: Snoosie Kane and all that stuff. But yeah, that's a 377 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: seventh round pick. I thought he had a pretty clear 378 00:15:58,800 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: edge over I. 379 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: Thought he did, but the Ravens brought the reason I mean, 380 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: I'm jumping ahead here, but like the reason I had 381 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: ar Darius as a bubble player is they added Eddie 382 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: Jackson in the middle of training camp, and they had 383 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: two rookies who they like. They drafted Snoozy Cane in 384 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: the seventh round. They have bo Braid out of Maryland, 385 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: an undrafted player who's shown potential and has had some 386 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: moments camp as well. 387 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: So then when you're kicking out areas since the nickel 388 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: competition that was a crowded field too. Yet let there 389 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: Marlon Marlin can play there Pepete Right, So okay, that's fine. 390 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: So what all? My My silver for most improved is 391 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: Jalen Armor Davis. 392 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a good pick. 393 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: I think the Jalen Armor. 394 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: Davis as a guy, Look, his first two years is 395 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: his third year, his first two years, he hasn't been 396 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: able to get through training camp healthy and just being 397 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: able to stay on the field. He's been out there 398 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: every single day. He's looked solid, like he was. I 399 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: don't know how much of a bubble player he was 400 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: probably to some excite coming in, but he has definitely solidified. 401 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: Himself on this roster based on how he's played. 402 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 4: In dramp number four outside corner. 403 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: Yes, he is a number four outside. It's Brandon Stevens 404 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: and Marlin Humphrey and then Nate Wiggins and and then 405 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 2: it's Jalen Jalen Armor Davis right there. Yeah, I think 406 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: he's been really good. 407 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 4: That's a good pick, all right, he took your gold. 408 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: My goal is Trenton Simpson. Now I think that Trenton Simpson, 409 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 2: Like here's my thing. I know we try to identify 410 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: this as improved through training camp, but like to me, 411 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: Trenton Simpson, as you've seen him over the course of camp, 412 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: like as more has been put on his plate and 413 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: there's been like what pas came on, he's just gotten better. 414 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: In the preseason game, He's okay, Trenton, you got the 415 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 2: green dot in the preseason game. He went out there 416 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: and loved the team and tackles. So I just feel 417 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: like he has he has absolutely shown that he's ready 418 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 2: to step into a starting role in my mind, and 419 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 2: I've just been impressed with how he has steadily improved 420 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 2: over the course of the entire offseason. But training camp 421 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: included every single step of the way. 422 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: I just like Patrick Queen. 423 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: Queen was an All Pro last year, and I don't 424 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: I think it's too simple to say, like, all right, 425 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: step on up Trent Simpson for your All Pro count 426 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 2: you're going to be an All Pro. 427 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: Too, Like those are big shoes. 428 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: But but I think that Trent Simpson is going to 429 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: fill that spot very adequately this year and play at 430 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: a high level. And based on everything I've seen in camp, 431 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: he just continues to get better. 432 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gave to Roger Rosengarden, Okay, my gold and now, 433 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: but I I agree with I didn't put Trenton Simpson 434 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: on the metals podium because I thought he looked really 435 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: good notes as in mini camp. But I do agree 436 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: with the notion that when the pads came on, he 437 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: showed more. Yeah, and in the preseason game he had 438 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: a very good game. He also liked so like and 439 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: that that counts. 440 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 4: That counts. 441 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: And then when we go pads on eleven on eleven, 442 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: fool contact you shrink. 443 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: No, he did not, he did not. 444 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: He also like which I hadn't seen for him previously, 445 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: Like he played with more shippiness in an edge that 446 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: I like as a linebacker. But like we've said it before, 447 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: he's such a nice guy. You don't necessarily think that 448 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: like he's going to be this enforcer out there, and 449 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: he had that mentality out on the field. 450 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, But I thought Roger really improved. 451 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: If we're just talking over the course of camp, I 452 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: thought Roger improved a lot. Yeah, all right, best Bubble player? Okay, 453 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: who is taking your bronze? 454 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 3: I gave it to Pepe. I thought that Pepe. 455 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: You know again, secondary that's the flavor of the day 456 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: here as we talk about a lot of your positions 457 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: and stand out, some players look good. Pepe to me, 458 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: came in on the bubble, especially in that Nickel conversation. 459 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: We have Arthur Molett. You have the versatility within that group. 460 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: You add Eddie Jackson Pepe another friend of the Lounge 461 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: had him on the podcast. 462 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: Reason where you were going in the toughest roster decision. 463 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm foreshadowing where you're going because you have every dB 464 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: on them. 465 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: Well, I think I think Pepe's put himself on on 466 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: the fifty three. I think that he's played well enough 467 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 2: to me, uh, he's gotten his hands on the football 468 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: at times, he's in the action. I thought he had 469 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: a good preseason game, had a sack in the game. 470 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 4: So I've been dressing a lot of d on that 471 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 4: fifty three. 472 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's twenty two DB's. 473 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 4: I was off. 474 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: I know, I don't disagree, but I'm just like in 475 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: my head, I'm like, oh my, all right, best Bubble player. 476 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: I gave the bronze to Tylan Wallace. I thought that 477 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: Tailand had a pretty good camp and he was not 478 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: a sure thing coming on into the into camp, but 479 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: just a steady player. I think special teams. He flashed 480 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: a little bit in the preseason game. I thought he 481 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: had some like not many balls at the ground that 482 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: came Talon Wallace's way. He's been a steady receiver. If 483 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: somebody were to go down, I think that they could 484 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: like rely on Tyler Wallace to make a play in 485 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: the game. You know, like it's a third down we're 486 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: gonna throw. He's not the first read, but whatever, Like 487 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: if the balls come to Tallas, I'm gonna count on 488 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: him to make that play. And I think that He's 489 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: in what was one of the more intriguing competitions coming 490 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: into training camp at wide receiver. I think he's put 491 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: himself ahead in that competition. 492 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 493 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: And also you know they have Deontay Hardy, who's who's 494 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: now been practicing more consistently. He's kind of been on 495 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 2: and off the field with the with injuries, and Deontay 496 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: Hardy is certainly the favorite in that returner competition. I 497 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 2: think it's it's his job. But Tylan Wallace, as we 498 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: all know from last year, he can do that job 499 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 2: as well. 500 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 501 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: So and also just going but Pepe also showed in 502 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: the preseason game he can do that job too. You know, 503 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: he's got some some ability as a returner. The silver 504 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: medal for me and the bubble player was owned. 505 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: Well, you haven't given your bronze, I said, I said, Pepe. Oh, 506 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, great, sorry. 507 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: The silver medal for me as the bubble player was Owen, Right, Okay, 508 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: So he's you know, the Ravens have an open spot 509 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: there at that third running back position. Keaton Mitchell's you know, 510 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 2: still working his way back from the knee injury last year. 511 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: First to our set obviously with Justice Hill and Derrick Henry. 512 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: But that third position that there's there's an opening there 513 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 2: for she and a Lee the fifth round pick is competing. 514 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: But I think owen Wright's had the edge there over 515 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: training camp and in the preseason. 516 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: If we're taking draft status of the equation and we're 517 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: just saying, you know whatever, just put them both on 518 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: a table, like who won the job, owen Wright would 519 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: win that. Rashina Lea's a fifth round pick. Now, the 520 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: Ravens in recent years have not had too much of 521 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: an issue with parting ways with fifth round picks, whether 522 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: that be versus cut, cut or trade. And the tron 523 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: Wade Sean Wave was a guy that they traded, and 524 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: the corner Kyu blu Kelly didn't make the fifty three 525 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: last year. Yes, Sue, And so it doesn't guarantee your 526 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: spot being a fifth round pick on this team being 527 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: a draft pick. I mean, if if they're willing part 528 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: ways with a fifth round pick, seventh round pick is 529 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: not a slam dunk either. 530 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, So. 531 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: I think that owen Right has just kind of won 532 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: that spot for now. I mean, obviously this is really 533 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: till Keaton Mitchell's back. It's the third running back's kind 534 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: of a placeholder, because let's not forget that Keith Mitchell 535 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: is going to be a difference maker when he gets 536 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: back on the field. But I think Owen Right has 537 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: done enough in my opinion, to win that. Yeah that 538 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: he took my goal. Oh okay, took my gold for 539 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: best Bubble Player, so my silver went to Cadier Ismail. 540 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 541 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: I think that Kadeer has had a good camp. You know, 542 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: you talk about a guy who was a late addition, undrafted. 543 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: He was a college quarterback, and then he was a 544 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: college wide receiver and then now during the course of 545 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: camp has converted to tight end. Like I think, he's 546 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: he's every day he's he's made a play. And that's 547 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: what they say to these young rookies, especially undrafted guys, 548 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: hey man, make a play a day and show them 549 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: what you got. And I was one thing this week 550 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: even that impressed me with him was the Ravens had 551 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: a tight end versus outside linebacker blocking drill. 552 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 4: And Kadeer is certainly as a converted wide receiver. 553 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: Who's as you know, he's going to fill out more 554 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: with his body, right, He's a pretty lean guy as 555 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: he stands right now, does not have the edge in 556 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: a blocking competition, particularly when he put Tavius Robinson on 557 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: the other side, who's, as Truck Smith called, a glass eater, 558 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: just like one of them you talked about heavy handed 559 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: outside linebackers on this team. He's got he's got the 560 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: heaviest hands, physical and uh, Kadeer won the first of 561 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 1: those reps. 562 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 4: He won it. 563 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if like Tavius, like got a heel 564 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 1: stuck in the ground what happened there, but he won it. 565 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: And then so then everybody was kind of like I think, surprised, 566 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: and they said, all right, line it up again. It's 567 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: a it's a rematch. I don't know if Tavis was like, oh, 568 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: we're rematching that or whatever. And then Tavius knocked him 569 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: his helmet off his head and knocked him on his button. 570 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 4: You said, him flying. I don't know if it was legal. 571 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, but tell I might have seen a flag out there. 572 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 4: Avis one round two decisively. 573 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: But like Kadeer is, like he's being tough out there, 574 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: and you see him even like he's competing, you know, 575 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: and and I respect that kid, and I think he 576 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: I think he's uh, he's done enough in my opinion too. 577 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 4: To at least he's. 578 00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: Not gonna make the fifty three. Is a tight end 579 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: on the team. They're two stacked at tight end. It's 580 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: just it's not happening. But I think practice squad like 581 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: he's made a very strong case for that. 582 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. 583 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: My best bubble player, as I kind of mentioned when 584 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: we were talking about most improved, is are Darius Washington. 585 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: I think that he was on the bubble for all 586 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 2: the reasons I said earlier, but I think he. 587 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 3: Is no longer. He's my goal, all right, So we're 588 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: gonna take a quick break. 589 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll give you some other thoughts 590 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: on best rookie, best play, best moment of camp, and 591 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: then the toughest roster decision. We're gonna talk about all 592 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: of that when we get back. If you're listening to 593 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: the Ravens Press Pass podcast, we're coming to you from 594 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: the Sea Geek Studio. We also want to mention our 595 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 2: friends at Draft Kings Sportsbook. They are an official sports 596 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draft Kings Sportsbook. 597 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 3: The Crown is yours. So top rookie, I. 598 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: Think this is gonna be well, maybe it's not that 599 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: easy to me it was it was Nate Wagins. 600 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 4: I had Nate too. 601 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it ended prematurely, but I thought that 602 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: over camp when he was on the field for training camp, 603 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: he was really, really, really good. As much as I 604 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: think Roger Rosa Gartin improved, I mean, the guy's taking 605 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: home in gold medal, but for me, as much as 606 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: I think that he's deserving of that, the top rookie 607 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: was Nat Wigains. 608 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was great from start to finish. 609 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 4: He absolutely well. 610 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: He was finish of his camp and and the shoulder 611 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 2: injury is not expected to be a long term say 612 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: at all, so so not too worried about that. But yeah, 613 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: I mean in his last last time we saw him 614 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 2: on the field, he got three pass breakups, so then 615 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 2: he made a tackle for loss and that was the 616 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: end of his night, you know. And dealing with the 617 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: shoulder injury, so he's been He was awesome. He was 618 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 2: He was sticky in coverage, he was physical, more physical 619 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: than I think a lot of people kind of expected, 620 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 2: and no panic, like you said, when the ball's in 621 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: the air. He's got great athletic trades, which were all 622 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 2: aware of. But he is able to take those athletic 623 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: traits and like use them the right. 624 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: Way transitioning from college to the pros. Cornerbacks one of 625 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: the toughest ones to do that and have and make 626 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: a quick transition, in my opinion, and he did that, 627 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: Like it did not look too big for him at all. Uh, 628 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: just by the way he carried himself and by the 629 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: way he played. 630 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 4: And I really think that we. 631 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: Might get to the end of this year and when 632 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: you're having the defensive Rookie of the Year conversation that 633 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: Nate Wiggins is going to be in that conversation. 634 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: I think there's potential. 635 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 4: I just I just as the Ravens are stacked. 636 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't know. 637 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 2: I mean I look, I like, it's not the exact same. 638 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: But you know, even Marlon Humphrey didn't start right away, 639 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 2: you know when he came in. 640 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, Nate's not going to start right. 641 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: So it's if you're not starting, you're not gonna win 642 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year. 643 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: That's a defense rookie of the Year. 644 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: But I think injuries happened at cornerback. We obviously hope 645 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: that they don't, but like, if this guy gets if 646 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: he gets significant playing time, whether just the Ravens run 647 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: a lot of three corner looks, uh huh with he 648 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: and Marlin in the slot and Brandon or whatnot. Like 649 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: if he gets enough playing time, he's going to be 650 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: in that conversation. 651 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's I think he's been great. I 652 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 3: think he's been great. 653 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 4: All right, best play of camp. 654 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: I am going to point to ra Sean Bateman the 655 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: touchdown that he had on the play that he actually 656 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: got hurt. 657 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 3: It was a corner end zone kind of. 658 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: Fade route, but a fully outstretched catch, came down heavy contact, 659 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: you know, hard fall under the ground back corner of 660 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: the end zone, kept his feet in bounds, held on 661 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: to the football, which was clearly painful because then he 662 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: was dealing with a rib issue that kept him out 663 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: for you know, about a week of practice here and there. 664 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: But it was a really really difficult catch, and it 665 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 2: was difficult outside of like the injury aspect, just a 666 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: really tough catch to make the grab, hold onto the football, 667 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: keep your feet in bounds, and then sustain it through 668 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: the fall. He did all of that. It was disappointing 669 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: that he got hurt on the play, but he's back 670 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 2: on the field, and he's back on the field by 671 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: the end of camp, and that was my number one play, Okay, 672 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: and if Bateman, like, that's what you want to see 673 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: from Sean Bateman, like, you want to see him making 674 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: plays like that. He had some some really good moments 675 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: in camp. You know, the injury it kind of in 676 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: the middle was was not good. But after that play, 677 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: but I saw some moments from him that that I liked. 678 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: And if again, if he can make plays like that, 679 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: then this offense is going to be in really good 680 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: shape for sure. 681 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: I gave it to Tyler Wallace the sandwich touchdown that 682 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: he had, ok I got he got hit by Mark 683 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. 684 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 685 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 1: He got hit at the same time by Marcus Williams. 686 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: And was it Kyle Hamilton. 687 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember. 688 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: It was another or a corner. Maybe it's Brandon Stevens. 689 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: I can't remember. Yeah, but the pass went up. Both 690 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: those guys hit him at the same time Tyland caught it. 691 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: They bounced off, he landed on his feet somehow and 692 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: then took it in for a touchdown. 693 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 4: That was pretty pretty awesome. 694 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: Well, can I just go since we're you know, we 695 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: did we did gold, Silver, bronze. Yeah, oh, we know, 696 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: metals for that, I know, but but for my my, 697 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: I guess the bronze here. 698 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 3: How about Justin tucker sixty eight yard field goal? 699 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 4: That's that's my best moment of camp. 700 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right, let's just go ahead and jump 701 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 3: to the best moment of Camp. 702 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 4: I gave it to six year eight year Afield goals. 703 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: That was really funny. I mean, hey, he lines up 704 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: for this bomb. 705 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: Then he the longest kick in NFL history if it 706 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 3: was in a game. 707 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, then he then he hits, well, he hits the 708 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: ball and it looks to all the reporters like it 709 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: went through. One ref signals it's good, the other one 710 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: says no. Pepe, who's standing under the crossbar, first signals good, 711 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: then looks over sees the ref wave it off and says, oh, no, 712 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: it's not good, waves it off. Like Pepe is like, wait, 713 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: am I supposed to be rooting for Justin Tucker? I'm 714 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: on the returning spot? Am I rooting for this to 715 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: go in? Or not? Like? It was just like it 716 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: was just mass confusion, you know. And even afterwards, we 717 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: asked Chris Horton, so did that go in? 718 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 4: And he was like, I don't know, we got to 719 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 4: check the tape. Yeah, the tape showed it went in. 720 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 3: It did it? Did win? It go in? So props 721 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: the tucker. That was. That was great. 722 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: My favorite moment of camp was and this is a 723 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: great day every year, but it's the water hose day. 724 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 3: It's when they do the slip and slide. 725 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: They break out like the hose and uh with the 726 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: rookies got to do the you know, the the fumble 727 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: Ruski type drill and slide through that. But this year 728 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: it went to another level because Harves got in on 729 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 2: the mix, you know, and he had a took kind 730 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: of a hard fall on his shoulder, which is funny, 731 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: and then said it. 732 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 4: Looked like the back of the head. Yeah, get get 733 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 4: down through the concussion protocol. 734 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: I mean he was he kind of went into his 735 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: old his old player mentality there, like he was serious 736 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: for this drill and I came down hard on his shoulder. 737 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: Actually said he sprained his shoulder a little bit. So 738 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 2: that was That's always a fun day. But with him 739 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: getting into the action, I thought I went to another 740 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: level this year. 741 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give it. Sorry my brons. Since apparently now 742 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: doing Brons the Orioles visiting training camp. You have to 743 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: meet Gunner. Yeah, got my selfie with Gunner. I was 744 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: staking him out and uh I got it. Okay, very 745 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: very cool to have them on board and Gunner was very. 746 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 4: Nice and yeah that was that was neat. 747 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, and then the last one here is 748 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: toughest roster decision. Now we are going to do our 749 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: full fifty three man roster breakdown and prediction podcast coming up. 750 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 3: I beat you last year. I did beat you last year. 751 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: I did. 752 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 4: We'll pull up the tape. 753 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 3: I actually beat you last year. 754 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: Also, if you want to submit your prediction for who's 755 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: going to be on the fifty three, participate in our 756 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 2: you pick the team contest presented by mess Our Health 757 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: and there's some great prizes on that. You can do 758 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 2: that on our website. But there's a benefit to waiting 759 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: because you get more information. But if there's a tie, 760 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 2: whoever submits at first gets the win there, So go 761 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: ahead and submit that. 762 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 3: The toughest decision. 763 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: Look, I think I was honestly, it was tough for 764 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: me to make a decision on what's the toughest decision. 765 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: I think it could be running back Honestly, we talked 766 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: about Owen Wright versus Rashana Ali, and I think that 767 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: there's Owen Right, second year undrafted guy, Rasheenan Ali, fifth 768 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: round picked. You know, how do you make that decision 769 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: between those two guys. I think that's really hard. I 770 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: actually think that is my number one. I think the 771 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 2: secondary is tough too, as you're coming down those final 772 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: few spots. But I'm gonna actually go running back. 773 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm I thought a little bit outside the box 774 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: on this one. 775 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 3: Special teams gunner L four. 776 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 4: Out of control, all right. 777 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: No, I went with the rookies. I think there's some 778 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: difficult decisions on the rookies multiple spots Rashina Lee. Like 779 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: you mentioned, I think Nick Semak a seventh round pick, 780 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: Like do you you know mcarry? Now they're giving snaps 781 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: to Ben Cleveland. You know McCarry has been you know, 782 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: he can be your backup center. So that's kind of 783 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: a tougher one on Nick Semak. Even tes tes Walker, 784 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think he's has we all kind 785 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: of I think assumed, yeah, he's the fourth wide receiver, 786 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: and I would still probably lean that direction. But it's 787 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: been a tough training camp. John Harball said he's been 788 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: dealing with rib a rib injury, but it's been a 789 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: little bit of a tougher camp for tes. I think 790 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: he's probably on, but it's not as much of a 791 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: slam dunk as it once was. And then and also 792 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: Snoosie Kane, another seventh round pick, the safety. You know 793 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: we talked about our areas Washington, did they really put 794 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: him on as as take a corner spot, like a 795 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: slot spot from somebody like a Pepe whatnot Ardia six 796 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: that spot and that opens up a spot for Snoosie Kane, 797 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: uh slash bow braid like I think do they carry 798 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: five safeties that I think there's some difficult decisions with 799 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: with some rookies involved. 800 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Tess Walker's on. 801 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 2: I agree, agree, and he he has you know, well, 802 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: I will say, you know, it's I think it's been tougher. 803 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 3: As he's been dealing with that you know, that injury 804 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:43,959 Speaker 3: and hasn't made. 805 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: It be a straight cut. I can tell you that much. Yeah, 806 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: well it's not a straight cut. 807 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 4: Well. 808 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 2: He also he also is a guy who he had 809 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 2: a couple of moments like he had a he ended 810 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 2: practice one day with a great fader Oute catch against 811 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 2: Nate Wagan's at. 812 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 3: The corner of the end zone. So like he's had 813 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 3: some moments too, So I think he's But I think 814 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 3: that's it. 815 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree, I mean with with it really 816 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: is Sam Max and Noocy Kane and Rashin Ali. They've 817 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 2: got some tough calls there. Do you put those guys 818 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: on that's crowded field at all those positions. 819 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 4: Yep. 820 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 3: So I think that's gonna be tough. Again. We're gonna 821 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 3: do our full fifty three manter roster. 822 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: The prediction, the offensive line, I mean, yeah, no, I 823 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: don't think we can like leave Sala. You have some 824 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: difficult I mean, is bank Cleveland a slam dunk definitely on? 825 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 4: Right? 826 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: I think he probably is, But I don't know that 827 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: it's an absolute slam dunk. You know, Sala, here's a 828 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: guy that I think they had a six round pick. 829 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,479 Speaker 4: That they had high hopes for. 830 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: You know, even there's an undrafted guy, Tehaun Manning. You know, 831 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: there's some undrafted players that you have a little bit 832 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: of a tougher call. With Josh Jones, a veteran that 833 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: you signed, Is he absolutely on? There's some difficult calls 834 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: to make on the offensive line. 835 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the starting five along the offensive 836 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 2: line is coming into focus. 837 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 3: But I don't know that the full you. 838 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: Know, eight or nine, whatever number there they decide to 839 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 2: keep is is totally decided. 840 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 4: That's what I'm not going to give you any clues. 841 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, it's probably gonna be eight. Maybe seven, Yeah, 842 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: maybe seven, Yeah, five, you have to have six. Macary's 843 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 1: your super you can play every position. 844 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 4: You got it, all right. 845 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: So again we're gonna do our fifty three man roster prediction. 846 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 2: Stay tuned for that. That's coming in the next couple of weeks. 847 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: My last we put a pin in it. My Olympic 848 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: sport that I have the best chance you can think 849 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: about it. I got it handball, the hand eye coordination. 850 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: You don't have to be like a crazy athlete, but 851 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: you have to. You have to some athleticism, some toughness. 852 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: You have to be able to catch the ball, throw 853 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: the ball, make some moves. I think I could get. 854 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: And I'm on a team, okay, I'm part of you 855 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: can hide, you can hide. 856 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 3: I can hide. 857 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: It's not this finaling's not all on part of a team. 858 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 1: I could score a goal with handball against those guys. 859 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 1: All right, I'm confident I could get one. 860 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 2: It's who was it on the NBA basketball team? Was 861 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 2: it Haliburton? Uh Bryson? Who was it on the NBA 862 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 2: team to put out the tweet? It was a picture 863 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 2: of him holding the gold medal. It's a sitipation award 864 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 2: had tyrees Haliburt and when he held up the gold 865 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 2: medal because he barely played. I don't think he played 866 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 2: at all in any of the games much at all. 867 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 2: And he said, when you basically, when you when you 868 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 2: work on a group project, you don't do anything on 869 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 2: a group project, you still get an a that's what 870 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 2: you're hoping for. 871 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 3: That's what you're hoping for. 872 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 4: That's exactly. But I could get one goal, Okay, get 873 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 4: one goal? 874 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 3: All right? 875 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: So as always, you can email us at the lounge 876 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 2: at ravensot NFL dot net. Let us know what questions 877 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 2: you have, let's know who you think is going to 878 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 2: end up on the fifty three men roster, and we 879 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 2: will be back with you again after the game on Saturday, 880 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 2: the preseason game on Saturday. 881 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 3: It's our kids Night. It's gonna be a lot of 882 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 3: fun our kids. Sorry, now Kids Day, Kid's Day. 883 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 2: The game is at noon, it's a kids game against 884 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons. Betty is not going to be there, Betty, 885 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 2: come on, it's that's right during that time. It's right 886 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 2: during nap time at twelve o'clock. That's that's that vibe. 887 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, so she's not going to be there, but 888 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 2: a lot of kids are going to be there. Kids noon, 889 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 2: m ANDT Bay Stadium is going to be a great time. 890 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 2: So thank you so much for listening, and we will 891 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 2: be back with you on Saturday.