1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Thinking about the future of the country. So are we 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: candidates Coverage and analysis you won't get anywhere else. Let's 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: go Donald Trump, as he told you he would do 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: last week on this program, officially announcing that he's going 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: to run for president in twenty twenty four. And we 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: will go ahead and play the audio of that official 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: announcement last night from Marlago. Here is what it sounded like. 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: In order to make America great and glorious again, I 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: am tonight announcing my candidacy for president of the United States. 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: All right, So, Buck, I watched the entire speech as 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: it were. They carried much of it live on Fox 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: News during Sean Hannity's show. They cut in and out 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: a couple of times to allow people to react. I 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: guess what maybe stood out the most to me about 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: the entire address. It was very subdued, relatively speaking for 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Up felt also as a result, very presidential. 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: And he played a lot of the greatest hits from 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: his twenty sixteen campaign as a part of this announcement. 19 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: And also I think one reason why it was relatively 20 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: subdued was because I guess it was on Thursday, or 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: was it Wednesday night? I can't even remember when Trump 22 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: attacked Glenn Junkin, when he attacked Ron de Santis, when 23 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: he went after a lot of different people with all 24 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: of those statements. I think that that was generally not 25 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: received very well. And so the argument is out there, 26 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: and I think he followed basically what we said on 27 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: this program. Hey, it's got to be a forward looking campaign. 28 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: The thing that he said that I was most responsive 29 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: to in a positive direction, And I think he got 30 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: this one hundred percent correct, and I wish more Republicans 31 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: would be saying it. He said one of the first 32 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: things that he would do when he came into office 33 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: is to bring back everybody who lost their jobs in 34 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: the military over the COVID shot requirements. He would end 35 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: all Biden vaccine mandates, and he would give back pay 36 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: to all of those soldiers who lost their jobs over 37 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: the COVID shot. Thank god, somebody is finally saying that. 38 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: That's what jumped out the most to me about the 39 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: entire address. What about you, Buck, What stood out to 40 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: you to anything surprise you? How would you assess the 41 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: overall announcement itself? So much interesting stuff happening here when 42 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: you get in this early this far ahead of anyone 43 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: else who may run. And keep in mind there will 44 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: be people who may decide to run who have no 45 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: chance at all, but they use it as a chance 46 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: to get their name out there and sell books. You know, 47 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: somebody who's kind of more of a libertarian may run 48 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: as a Republican or whatever. We've seen that in the past, 49 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: distinct possibility of that, So you're likely to see some 50 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: names enter it just be because they'll be press associated 51 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: with that in the months ahead. Trump is in super 52 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: early and this is going to create I think some 53 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: advantages and some challenges. One thing that does seem that 54 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: that's I think stuck out to everybody last night, and 55 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: I watched the whole thing live too, was that Trump 56 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: was very clearly trying to take a common presidential tone throughout. 57 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't you know, rock'em sock'em Trump in WWE mode. 58 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: You know, it was definitely a intentionally presidential tone. I 59 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: think the decision not to talk or not to focus 60 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: on on twenty twenty is the right one. I don't 61 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody should have any confusion about that 62 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: from a pure tactical perspective, never mind anything else. That's 63 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: not going to work, and we're gonna have our friend 64 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: a Ryan ger Dusky joining us in the second or 65 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: today the program, who is a political consultant. All he 66 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: does is look at the polling, the exit polling, the data, 67 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: the numbers, the races, and will break down some of 68 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: the good, the bad, and the ugly from this election. 69 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: There was some good which you want to focus on 70 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: as well. It is in fact possible that today during 71 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: the show, we may I think be able to officially 72 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: call the House. I mean it's basically the House's GOP 73 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: now right, but it hasn't been official official called yet. 74 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: But I look, I think that Trump we're two years 75 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: out from the election, and there's going to be not 76 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,559 Speaker 1: only an evolution of Trump in his campaign that will occur. 77 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: That's that's obvious. There's also going to be events that 78 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: will conspire to change around whatever plans are currently made, 79 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: whatever strategy is currently in place. So I think we 80 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: just follow this at every step, in every stage, and 81 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: it's it's good that there will be in my mind 82 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: at least more. The de facto leader of the Republican 83 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: Party came out last night and said, I am now 84 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: the you know, for right now he is the official 85 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: leader of the Republican Party. I don't think anyone would 86 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: really dispute that, as he is the only person who 87 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: has come out in favor of or come out officially running. 88 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: So we got to see, man, I mean, I want 89 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: to see how he does in these first six months. 90 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: The guy pulled off something of a political miracle, it 91 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: seems in twenty sixteen. He was a really great president 92 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: when he was in office in so many ways, accomplished 93 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: so many things. But the game has changed a lot, 94 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: the world has changed a lot. We've got to see 95 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: how it all stacks up. So I'm enthusiastic. I mean, 96 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm happy that this is this is the trajectory right 97 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: now for the GOP to get to get serious about 98 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: winning after what just happened. Because it was a body blow. 99 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: We all know it should have been better than what 100 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: it was in the mid terms. Nobody was more ticked 101 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: off by the way than Clay and I. I mean, 102 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: we're sitting here, we're furious for days about how this thing. 103 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: But now we understand how it went that way. And 104 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: I think that Trump may be able to galvanize Republicans 105 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: to understand not only what's bad about Biden, but what 106 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: could be so much better under a Republican administration. The 107 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: thing that I would say is the announcement is unprecedented 108 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: to have someone announced to run for president, effectively fourteen 109 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: months until we actually have the first primary, which in 110 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: theory would be I still think it's going to be Iowa, 111 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: although how exactly that's going to shake out remains to 112 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: be seen because Democrats are saying Iowa isn't representative enough. 113 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: I think they may change their calendar. We'll see what 114 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: Republicans end up doing. But for Trump to be in 115 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: fourteen months before anyone out there listening to us right 116 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: now can have any official say in terms of who 117 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: they would support is a long time. And what we 118 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: don't know is what's going to happen with all these investigations. 119 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: And I think it's smart of Trump to be in 120 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: if he is going to be indicted, because now the storyline, 121 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: I think it's hard to avoid this being the storyline 122 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: is the chief political rival who has announced that he 123 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: is going to be running against Joe Biden, is being 124 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: investigated by the Department of Justice of Joe Biden. So 125 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: if he is indicted, now it's very easy for Trump 126 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: to say, this is a politically motivated indictment. But the 127 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: thing I wonder, and this circles back around to a 128 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: conversation we were having earlier this week. Democrats are desperate 129 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump to be the nominee. Every Democrat out there, 130 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: if you say you get to pick a Republican, they 131 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: want to run against Donald Trump. Now. They were excited 132 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: for him to be the nominee in twenty sixteen, and 133 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: he beat him, But their entire party is basically defined 134 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: by saying Trump is Hitler. So my point on this is, 135 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: I think Trump is strength if they indict him. So 136 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: there's this idea out there, and I want you to 137 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: think about it a little bit counterintuitively, that Democrats are 138 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: trying to knock Trump out by investigating him at Mara Lago, 139 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: by rating with the FBI, I would actually argue the 140 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: opposite might be true, that they are trying to ensure 141 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: that he is the nominee. And I think one of 142 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: the things you could do that would most strengthen Trump 143 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: buck is actually indict him, because I think in base 144 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: rallies around him when the indictment happens. Well, right, if 145 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: we were getting this out a little bit. I see that. 146 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: But the indictment of Trump, which we believe would focus 147 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: on mishandling of classified and obstruction of government, right there 148 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: is Look it's gonna be if they bring that charge, 149 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: and can we just we're going down the rabbit hole here, 150 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: we're taking we're taking a drive through crazy town. So 151 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: everyone needs to understand that. Remember, the media spent three years. 152 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: I mean the fourth year was really more COVID obviously 153 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: than Russia collusion. But for three years, I mean, people 154 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: built huge careers and huge followings on the massive and 155 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: obvious lie that Donald Trump had worked with Putin to 156 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: steal the election. So this is also why I understand 157 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: people that say, well, you know, the twenty twenty election 158 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: steal conversation came after the twenty sixteen election steel conversation, 159 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: which it's completely fair to point that out. That is true. 160 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: But they're out of their minds, is my point. Like 161 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: like the things that you and I consider your clay 162 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: and say, well that's totally unreasonable. Wow exactly. I mean, 163 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: this is a party that just voted voted strongly for 164 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: John Feederman, as we know in Pennsylvania. Here's the thing. 165 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: If they bring the charge it would be. Let's say 166 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: they bring a federal federal indictment against Donald Trump, It'll 167 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: be in a d DC Circuit court, right, That's where 168 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: it's going to happen. That's where the charge will. I 169 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: don't know, do you think. I mean, I wouldn't be 170 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: in Florida. I don't know how that exactly would work. 171 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: I think it would be in in DC. And if 172 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: you get a DC jury, it's gonna be a Trump 173 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: hating jury of MSNBC watching libs. And if you tell 174 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: them you know, this guy should probably serve three or 175 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: four months in prison, I think they would go for it. Yeah, 176 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: there's there's no presidential protection, there's no pardon, there's nothing 177 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: for him. So you know, you're saying if they indict him, 178 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: the optics strengthen him. I say that's true. But if 179 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: they indict him, if they do that, wouldn't they also 180 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: try to send him to night A. Look, they're not 181 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: gonna to get him fron ten years or something crazy, 182 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: but wouldn't they try to make him serve some jail time? 183 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: I think they would. The problem is I don't think 184 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: that they would be able to get the entire court 185 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: proceeding done before election day. So this is I mean again, 186 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: this is why it's so crazy to think about. So 187 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: if they indicted him now, it would take months before 188 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: any kind of actual trial could take place. Any appeal 189 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: would take forever. Right, I think we would be voting 190 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: for president before there was a resolution to whatever charges 191 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: might be brought against Trump because I think based on 192 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: the Special Master hearing and everything else, it's unlikely they 193 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: could bring any charges until the spring of twenty three. Now, 194 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: so if they bring him in the spring of twenty three, buck, 195 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: he could already be the nominee. You know, by March 196 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: of twenty four will probably know who the Republican nominee is. 197 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: But but then we get back to you, also, does 198 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: it rally the Trump? First of all, are they even 199 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: going to bring charges? This is still a big I 200 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: know you think they will. Ye, we'll see. But if 201 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: they bring charges, it certainly goes to the narrative of 202 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: the swamp the apparatus. Yeah, going after Trump. However, there 203 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: is this lesson we have learned from the swing states. 204 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: We overperformed in red states and in blue states. This 205 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: is the part of it. That's the reason. Just so 206 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: I want to ever understand this, This is really important. 207 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: The reason we have a House majority now. The reason 208 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: is Florida, which just ran the table. New York, which, 209 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: while we didn't win the governor's race, won a bunch 210 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: of down ticket congressional ballots seats that were real critical. 211 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 1: I think four of them in Long Island alone really important. 212 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: And California, so we overperformed, and there's other states you 213 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: could throw into the mix there too. So we know 214 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: how to get Republican voters fired up in blue states 215 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: right now, and we know certainly how to get Republican 216 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: voters in the red states fired up. But to win 217 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: the presidency, you gotta get it's we all know that 218 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be at least you know, given the 219 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: political trajectory that we've seen for the last couple of years, 220 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: it's going to be the same states that are an 221 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: issue right now. You may throw one or two. You know, 222 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: Virginia might be in play, right I mean, there's some 223 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: things that could switch a little bit. And Clay an 224 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: indicted presidential candidate, how does that play out, not to 225 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: our friends, not to our audience, to the independence will 226 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: determine Pennsylvania, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin. I don't know 227 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: that's part of this. I don't I think we'll pretend 228 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: to know. I think it damages Trump immensely, But that's 229 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: where I think their play is. I think they know 230 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: that it strengthens him with the Republican base, likely gets 231 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: him the nomination, but wounds him to such an extent 232 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: that he's unlikely to be able to win in those 233 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: toss up states. I think that's their play. I think 234 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: that's where they're headed. I mean that would be that. 235 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: I think the conventional wisdom would be indicted Trump scares 236 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: away independence and squishy Republican college educated white voters, and 237 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: you get twenty twenty two in the swing states all 238 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: over again. And that's the play that they'd be making. Yeah, 239 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: no doubt. And so I think it's going to be 240 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: fascinating to see exactly how all of that shakes out. 241 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: Before all is said and done, we'll continue to break 242 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: this down. 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Of course, 268 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: we're still two years away from the twenty twenty four 269 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: presidential election, which we told you on this show would 270 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: effectively start as soon as the mid terms were over. 271 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: So I wonder Buck, big picture here. If you are 272 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: going to challenge Trump, Let's say you are Ron de Santis. 273 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: Let's say you are Glenn Junkin. Let's say you are 274 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: Mike Pompeo or even Mike Pence, and you are out 275 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: there and you are thinking, Hey, I'm going to throw 276 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: my hat in the ring, because Buck, as you mentioned, 277 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people run with the knowledge that it's 278 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: highly unlikely that they would ever be the nomination. But 279 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: it helps their speaking fees. It makes them widely well 280 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: known to tens of millions of people that otherwise wouldn't 281 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: have known them. When they get to stand on the stage. 282 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: It may also help them if there's a particular issue 283 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: that you are really focused on that you think is 284 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: not getting enough attention from the Republican Party, it can 285 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: help to alter the conversation or put your issue on 286 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: the stage. Right, So there are many reasons why people 287 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: could announce what's the timeframe on them? Now? Because that's 288 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: the other thing I was thinking in the back of 289 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: my head as we watch Trump. Now. I don't actually 290 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: know anything about professional boxing and reality, but I have 291 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: seen all the Rocky movies, so I do know that 292 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: you gotta train, and you gotta you know, have some 293 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: some bouts before the big bout. You know, you gotta 294 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: make sure you're in fighting form. Also, The Fighter, I thought, 295 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: with Mark Mark Wahlberg, was a very great boxing movie. 296 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: Cinderella Man also pretty good. I like The Fighter a 297 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: little bit more, but there's a lot there's some great 298 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: boxing movies. Anyway. The primary process is exactly that. I mean, 299 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: you actually don't want someone you know who you know 300 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,479 Speaker 1: who thought she was going to breeze through a primary 301 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: and every everybody should just get out of the way. 302 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, I think, you know Hubris Hubris in two 303 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: thousand and eight was one of her many downfalls. And 304 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: I think that in this in this situation, we're likely 305 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: to see some people who were going to come forward 306 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: and if they're in a primary with Trump. Look. One 307 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: of the more phenomenal things about the initial Trump rise 308 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: was the way that he was able to in a 309 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: very crowded field with some big name Republicans who are 310 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: are still you know, very much Ted Cruz and Marc 311 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: Rubio and people that are still very much in the 312 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: game today and in significant ways. But he was able 313 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: to get himself ahead of that pack. And I think 314 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: that was that was honing the skill, you know, that 315 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: was actually sharpening the axe to go out there and 316 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: chop down the trees faster like. It was actually a 317 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,719 Speaker 1: process that was worthwhile for him. So I don't think 318 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: that anybody should think that a primary is the equivalent 319 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: of some kind of GOP civil war. It's gonna take 320 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: the that wasn't the case in twenty sixteen, and that 321 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: was a bruising primary. So if we go in that direction, 322 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: recent history tells us Okay, let's see how Let's see 323 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: how that shakes out, and see where the politics are 324 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: for the country, see where the mood of the country 325 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: is at that moment in time when people will get 326 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: in Look, I haven't. I was actually surprised to hear this, 327 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: and I will share this. I've heard people that would 328 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: would be in a position to know they think very 329 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: seriously that Glenn youngcan's going to get in Yeah, which 330 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: I you know, everyone's so focused on to Sandus now. 331 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: To a lot of our audience, I'm sure, especially people 332 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: that are very excited for Trump, they're like, well, that's 333 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: a okay, but it's it's somebody who's the guy's worth 334 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: a couple of hundred million dollars. He's a governor of Virginia. 335 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: You know, he may throw his hat in the ring. 336 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, even if you just 337 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: view them as sparring partners for Trump, at some level, 338 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: it's a good thing. Yeah, I do not think that 339 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: a coronation. From the very beginning, he's really to anyone's 340 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: bet if it was part including Trump, I think you 341 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: want him to be you know, to be out there 342 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: sparring and to be making the case. And he needs 343 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: to be doing that because I think everyone's seen this. 344 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: It is a savvier, more ruthless Democrat machine now than 345 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: it was in twenty sixteen. They have figured out some tricks. 346 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: They have something. They will not allow Trump to get 347 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 1: all the free advertising he did before. They will not 348 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: allow him to leverage their toys, their social media platforms 349 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: against him. So there has to be an evolution that 350 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: he would take in this process in order to bring 351 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: us the victory that we so desire in twenty twenty four. 352 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: I think Trump believes Glenn Yunkin is going to get 353 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: in the race, which is why he attacked him. You know, 354 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: we everybody focused on the DeSantis attack, but he also 355 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: went after Glenn Yunkin. And he's getting in, Like I 356 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: would be surprised at this point, Clay, I can't. I 357 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: can't reveal this worst but I've I've been told that 358 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: he's getting in. Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me at all. 359 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's going to be de Santis. 360 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be Glenn Yunkin. I think I 361 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: mentioned him yesterday talking about the fact that I thought 362 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: he was going to run and Trump. And remember to 363 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: your point on twenty sixteen, do you remember who in 364 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: the Republican Party had all the money and all of 365 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: the organization and everybody was like, this is the guy 366 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: are you talking about? Jeb exclamation Jeb exclamation point. Jeb 367 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: exclamation Point was the presumptive party favorite in twenty sixteen. 368 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: And so what I would say about all this is 369 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: you I'm seeing a lot of people who are very 370 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: nervous about the idea of a primary battle. And I 371 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: just I fundamentally reject that. If everybody decides, hey, I 372 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: want to get out and Trump is the guy, that's fine, 373 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: but I think it actually makes Trump a weaker candidate. 374 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: For your point, Buck, you have to hone yourself by 375 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: getting in that ring. The fact that Trump eliminated whatever 376 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 1: it was, eighteen other contenders in twenty sixteen made him 377 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: an infinitely stronger candidate. And I think, Buck, if you 378 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: go watch, and I'm curious if Trump himself would even acknowledge, 379 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: you go watch that first debate that he had against 380 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Donald Trump was awful in that first debate. 381 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: He only had two second when he cleaned his clock 382 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: first when he was awful. And I relative to pass 383 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: Trump debate performances. I think one reason he was awful, 384 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: and you often see this from presidents is because they're 385 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: not in fighting shape because they're used to being president 386 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: and they're not on the hustings out on the trail 387 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: having to sell themselves. And so this was why Trump 388 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: was bad in the first debate. He needs the reps, 389 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: he needs the practice. Whoever the nominee is and a 390 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: good scrap within the family of the GOP is not 391 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: is not a thing that that lasts forever. I mean, 392 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: you think about Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, Yes, you 393 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: know they they were they were swinging at each other 394 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: like Apollo Creed and Rocky Back. I mean, they were 395 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: taking each other heads off in the primary. And then 396 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: when Trump, you know one, it was almost like at 397 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: the end of a really tough boxing match. You'll you 398 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: see this, the two boxers actually like hug it out, 399 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: you know. Yep. Ted Cruz became a huge ally of 400 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: Trump's in the Senate and a big advocate of the 401 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 1: America First agenda, and they worked very well together in 402 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: that capacity. So look, it's politics like things. Things might 403 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: get a little rough in the primary between some of 404 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: the some of the people that are contenders here, but 405 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: they want the most powerful job in the world, right 406 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: Like this is the other thing. You know, they're not 407 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: They're not trying to be the favorite you know, neighborhood 408 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: third grade social studies teacher or something. Not that there's 409 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: anything wrong with that, but you get what I'm saying. 410 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be a little bit of a throwdown, 411 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: and that's fine. One thing I would like to hear 412 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: from Trump. Remember in twenty sixteen, Trump famously refused to 413 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: say that he wouldn't run if he was not the 414 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: Republican nominee. Remember that, like everybody else raised their hand 415 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: and said, I will support the nominee. I do think 416 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: my big concern about a contested primary is we need 417 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: to hear from Donald Trump and answer to that question. 418 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: If you were not the nominee, Let's say that Glen 419 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: Yunkin beats him. People decide out there in the primary 420 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: that they like Glenn Yunkin, or they like Ron De 421 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: Santis or Mike Pompeo, whoever else. I want we know 422 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: that De Santis and Pompeo and Glenn Yuncin I think 423 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: they would all do their best to elect a president 424 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. What I want Donald Trump to answer, 425 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: and I think it's important, is if you were not 426 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: the nominee, will you pledge to help whoever that nominee 427 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: is to get elected in twenty twenty four? Because if 428 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: Trump is gonna say, hey, I'm the nominee or I'm 429 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: gonna run independent, then I think that should factor in 430 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: in how people make decisions. And also I think that 431 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: would reflect really poorly on Trump. I don't think he 432 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: would do that, but I'd like for him to answer 433 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: that question when there are going to be debates going 434 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: on between all of these different contestants, wouldn't you like 435 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: to hear the answer to that. I mean, he could 436 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: lie and say yes, I'm gonna pledge, but he didn't 437 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: answer into his credit in twenty sixteen. He didn't say, Hey, 438 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: I'm all in for whoever the other nominee is. I'd 439 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: like to think that in twenty four since he's the 440 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: head of the Republican Party, that he wouldn't take his 441 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: ball and go home and run as an independent candidate 442 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: and guarantee the Democrat wins again. I think that there 443 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: may be an expectation out there that no one's going 444 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: to run against Trump. I see this. I mean, I 445 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: have people that write in listen to the show. I'm 446 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: not sure how many of there are. I think it 447 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: is highly unlikely that there will be no competitors to 448 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump in the primary. Someone may think that Trump 449 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: will sweep them all away, and that's, of course fine, 450 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: we'll see. I don't know. I can't see the future, 451 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: but it would be I mean, what would I would 452 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: give a ten to one odds that there will be 453 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: people that get into this primary against Trump, right, I 454 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: mean you would have to You would have to give 455 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: me a ton of money to wager against they're being 456 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean they're massive favorites. You said ten to one. 457 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: I think I would give like one to you know, 458 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: a hundred, meaning you'd have to give me a hundred 459 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: dollars if somebody didn't run, right like, I think it's 460 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: a massive favorite, that he's going to have several different 461 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: contenders and every dust. Remember it's also it's just too 462 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,239 Speaker 1: much of a brand building exercise. I know that may 463 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: sound a bit cynical, but for a lot of people 464 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: it's they They go from being even like a congressman 465 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: or maybe even a businessman who used to be in politics, 466 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: to someone more on the national stage. You sell more books, 467 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: maybe you do another run. So there's gonna be I think, 468 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: Because there are people saying, well, no one's gonna get 469 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: it against Trump, I think that's highly unlikely. We could 470 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: be wrong, but I think that's highly unlikely. So you're 471 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: you're you're going to see some form of primary here, 472 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: and that would be I think too. I think everybody 473 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: should recognize that a primary that makes the candidate better 474 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: is something. There's a reason we have primaries. We don't 475 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: just try like a vote, right. 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Thank 503 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: you for having me. All right, so let let's just 504 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: start with what do we need to learn from this 505 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: mid term? Right? I mean, we've got this audience very 506 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: up to speed obviously on you know, who won, who 507 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: lost and some of the broad themes. What are the 508 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: takeaways that the data now and explain how the data 509 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: does it make? Pretty ironclad? Okay, So first, mostly importantly, 510 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: there was no youth quake. The media has had this 511 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: narrative coming out that there was this giant army of 512 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: young gen Z people voting Democrat. Didn't happen at all. 513 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 1: They did vote Democrat, but they came out at a 514 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: smaller level than they did in twenty eighteen, and they 515 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: actually voted more Republican. The data shows that the tops 516 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: universities tissed college civic life. They're the ones who analyze 517 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: the youth vote every year. They said it. David Shore, 518 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: the brilliant liberal data analysts, looked at all the counties 519 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: where young bar voting was down. All of them didn't 520 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: happen whatsoever. Secondly, abortion major major major driver for independence, 521 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: and people who disliked Biden but didn't hate Biden. So 522 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: people who had like unfavorability were driven towards Democrats for 523 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: two reasons. Abortion and denying the twenty twenty election really 524 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: really really drove them away in very strong numbers. And 525 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: you can see it in the issue of Arizona. In Arizona, 526 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: there were nine statewide candidates. Five of them Republicans won 527 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: or are winning currently. Four loss. Before that loss all 528 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: random the election was stolen. The five one did not 529 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: talk about the election being stolen. That was a major 530 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: major indicator and that's probably why Trump yesterday during his 531 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: hour long announcement didn't mention the election being stolen whatsoever. 532 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: That well, a lot of people were also motivated to 533 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: vote against Trump, more motivated to vote against Trump than 534 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: were motivated to vote against Biden, which is very, very 535 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: very unusual. And that's why Independence. While Republicans had larger 536 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 1: turnout numbers. Republicans really did a good job turning out 537 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: and that w the popular vote, but it was swaying 538 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: against Us, swaying against Independence and people who only lean 539 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: Republican that really had they really had a big effect. 540 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: Candidate quality, Let's talk about that for a second. Candid 541 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: equality does matter to a point. You the guy. So 542 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: there's a guy named Tom Horne. He's currently winning an 543 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: unseeming and incumbent Democrat in the state of Arizona, where 544 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: public instruction. He's gonna be the superintendent for the whole state. 545 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: He is a seventie thing year old man, a lot 546 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: of history, a lot of baggage, a lot of negative 547 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: stories about him in the media. He's running against bilingual education, 548 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: running against CRT d Ei, YadA, YadA, YadA. He one 549 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: why because he talked about the issues that really affected people, 550 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: that were popular, that were conservative. He never ran away 551 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: from them, but he didn't delve into abortion, and he 552 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: didn't delve into the twenty twenty election. Reverse that with 553 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: the guy who ran in Pennsylvania for Governor. Doug Mastriano, 554 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: talked NonStop about the election, said he wanted to imprison 555 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: women and charge him with murder if they had an abortion, 556 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: and said Jesus Christ himself with intervene in the election 557 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: to make sure that he wanted huge mistake one other 558 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: thing and then will go to I'll let you guys 559 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: talk whatever. But U Republican showed your show, right, Um, Well, 560 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: Republicans way overperformed in a lot of blue areas that 561 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: didn't matter. So Republicans had all time highs in New 562 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: York City elects congressional elections, all time high in the 563 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: Los Angeles congressional elections. They overperformed by them by ten 564 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: something points in some of these places. It's just in 565 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: the places that they needed to overperform, they consistently underperformed. 566 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: That was problematic. They did much better with Asians, somewhat 567 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: better with Latinos and rural blacks, blacks who live in 568 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: the black belt of the South. And I think the 569 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,959 Speaker 1: lastly we've had a lot of questions right now was 570 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: why are Republicans now re electing all the people in 571 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: leadership McConnell, McCarthy, YadA, YadA, YadA. How are they being rewarded. 572 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: There's an organization on the left called Act Blue. Act 573 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: Blue connects twenty one million small dollar Democrat downers of campaigns. 574 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: Is how John Fetterman was able to raise seventy five 575 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: million dollars for his Senate campaign on top of the 576 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars for other congressional campaigns fifteen 577 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: million against Marjor Tyler Green in a super safe Republican district. 578 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: Republicans don't have anything close to this on our side. 579 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: And the only thing that Republicans can us have to 580 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: lean on are Kevin McCarthy and mister McConnell, and they're 581 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: super PACs, and I think that's something a reason why 582 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: they're doing well posts a fairly not good midterm election. 583 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: All right, Ryan, that's fantastic. I love when you come 584 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: on and just break down the data for us. So 585 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: let's play it forward. If you were looking at the 586 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: data that you have seen in twenty twenty two and 587 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: you were saying what needs to happen for a Republican 588 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: presidential candidate to win in twenty twenty four, and we 589 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: understand it's two years away and that the issues can 590 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: change and everything can evolve many different directions. But would 591 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: it be fair to say no one can talk about 592 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election and denying it that there needs 593 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: to be some form of abortion policy that is put 594 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: in place, whether it's like, hey, I believe that you 595 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: should be able to have an abortion, you know, up 596 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: to fifteen weeks or whatever it is. I'm talking about 597 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: a national candidate who's going to win some of these 598 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: purplish states. What would have to happen for Republicans to 599 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: win in twenty four given what you're talking about happened 600 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: in Arizona, in Georgia, in Pennsylvania and Nevada, in Michigan 601 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: and Wisconsin, all those states out there where this election 602 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: is going to be decided. Yeah, so the twenty twenty 603 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: election can never be revisited. It's just it's over. You 604 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: could talk about ballot harvesting, you could talk about checking, 605 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: you could talk about whatever you want. But if you 606 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: bring up at this point, if you are anything close 607 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: to a suburban district and you bring up the fact 608 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: that the twenty twenty election was stolen, you're going to lose. 609 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: It's just the case you're going to lose. That is, 610 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: it drives college educated white voters away, and there are 611 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: more of them than there are of minorities. So they 612 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: basically started to cut you off. But they basically branded 613 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: that so well Democrats did for even independent college educated 614 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: voters that if you're even touching that, you're like, it's 615 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: like a third rail for independent voters, you lose. Yeah, 616 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: that's think of it, like, think of it like privatizing 617 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: social Security something that oh, I don't know. Canids like 618 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: Rick Scott and Blake Master's also campaigned on another third rails. 619 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: You could privately believe it. I don't care. There's a 620 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: lot of things people privately believe but don't talk about 621 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: in polite society. At this point, it seems so toxic 622 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: to people, even people who dislike Joe Biden, that if 623 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 1: you bring it up, there's a good chance you will 624 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: lose talking about it. That is why Donald Trump, in 625 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: an hour long speech, did not mention once that that 626 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,479 Speaker 1: the presidential letrama was stolen. Because the just the data 627 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: is out there, the polls have shown this people that 628 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: you need to win to win big elections. Do not 629 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: believe that, do not like talking about that, and they 630 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: really have believed the whole you know MSNBC line that 631 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: the democracy is under a threat, and they it feeds 632 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: into the narrative that in the abortion conversation that Republicans 633 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: are weird, Republicans are against your freedoms, Republicans are they 634 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 1: talk like they are all at a Trump rally or 635 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: a Seapack conference. That definitely hurts them. And furthermore, about abortion, 636 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: you asked an abortion before. If a candidate says I 637 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: have support, I'm pro life without exception, it is as 638 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 1: detrimental to a Republican as a Democrat saying I want 639 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: to defund the police. That is how badly it polls. 640 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: So when you hear somebody saying that remember independence, are 641 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 1: hearing defund the police, that is the same exact knee 642 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: jerk reaction. I think. I think personally, the federal government 643 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: does not have any role to play an abortion law. 644 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: It never did before in eighteen seventy something, and never 645 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: will I hopefully never will again. The states should decide 646 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: just sit there and say I don't support I do 647 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: not want the federal government being involved in your abortions. 648 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: I just don't want it. You have to take a 649 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: more libertarian statemate, that is the way the public is 650 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: on the issue, and just back away from it. And Ryan, 651 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: pro life governors did win though on last week by 652 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: the huge margins in Ohio, Texas, a, Florida, Georgia. Yeah, Ryan, 653 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: up one more thing. This is running up against the 654 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 1: clock and people should subscribe if you want to really 655 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: see what's going on in politics across the country. The 656 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: National Populist newsletter that Ryan has on sub stack and 657 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: we'll put it up at clanbuck dot com. We'll link 658 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: it there as people can find it easily. Ryan, one 659 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: more for you on this. You know, I can't tell 660 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: you how many text messages I've gotten in the last 661 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: week from people who are involved in campaigns, and what 662 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: they all keep saying to me is we have to 663 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: get the message to the top. If we tell people 664 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: to just show up on election day, if we do 665 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: not run mail in ballot campaigns ourselves, if we do 666 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: not use the rules as they are currently in place, 667 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who some of these candidates are or 668 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: who the presidential candidate is, they will lose absolutely. That's 669 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: one hundred percent true. As well. This romanticization that we 670 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 1: have towards only voting on election day is very acinine. 671 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: If you believe that they're going to screw with the 672 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: machines on election day, that's fine, go vote early. They 673 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: give They give them sometimes months to vote early, thing 674 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't agree with, But as long as those are 675 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: the rules in place, you need to take advantage of 676 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: the rules. If I was on herschel Walker's campaign right now, 677 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: which I'm not, but if I was, all I would 678 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: be doing is collecting early ballots and distributing them and 679 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 1: dropping off either a drop boxes or to the Board 680 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: of Elections or whatever the case may be. But making 681 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: sure people vote early and getting the numbers. That's why 682 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: before the polls closed in Florida, De Senus had already won. 683 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: He won Miami Dad a week before election day because 684 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: they had gotten Republicans out in large enough numbers that 685 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: they knew Miami Dad was over. They knew the whole 686 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: election was over a week out. And it's very nice 687 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: thanks to sit they're in, have that position where you're 688 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: comfortable enough to sit they're in have at and know 689 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: you're going to win. So far in advance. It's a 690 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: turnout method. It's also swaying independent voters. But the turnout method. 691 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: Don't wait till election day. Vote our early, vote often 692 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: and if it and vote by any means necessary. Ryan 693 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: or Dusk, everybody. Ryan, appreciate your breaking it down for us. 694 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: Great sub stack piece on your midturn post mortem. Thanks 695 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: so much. Thank you. If you could save a life, 696 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 1: would you? Of course you would. That's why we're partnering 697 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: with Preborn Pregnancy Clinics to help rescue the most vulnerable 698 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: in society, preborn babies. 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