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Speaker 2: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Now Dunks

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Speaker 2: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Friday, July first. Happy

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Speaker 2: Birthday to Canada, Happy birthday to my life Nora, love

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Speaker 2: Skeets and joining me here in the yard today we

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Speaker 2: got the bearded one Atapsha hot Boy, Trey Kirbie hel

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Speaker 2: of the border, Lee Ellis, what's up?

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Speaker 3: Heck come, I'm in Canada on Canada Day and you

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Speaker 3: and not. That's that seems a bit weird, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. You just go whenever you want,

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Speaker 2: wherever you want, during the busiest time of the year.

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Speaker 2: dot Com. On today's podcast, Oh my god, Lee, we

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Speaker 2: got so much to talk about here. This is this

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Speaker 2: with this news. On Thursday, The Athletic reported that Kevin

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Speaker 2: This came, you know, twenty four to forty eight hours

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Speaker 2: I did a quick podcast on this yesterday. If you

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Speaker 5: Well, Skeets, you say a lot happened on Day one

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Speaker 5: Did Kevin Durant save Day one of free agency? Or

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Speaker 5: did Kevin Durant ruin Day one of free agency by

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why do you think this is happening?

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Speaker 2: This is the part I can't understand, Lee, Like, why

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Speaker 3: I guess last week we heard the rumors that Sean

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Speaker 3: And where's that destination that he's going to go to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I debated, I guess Trey because I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: Then this was not part of the plan. And that's

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Speaker 2: why he wants it with Katie, with Kyrie. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it could be either of these. I think it could

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Speaker 5: It seems to me that Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irvinger

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Speaker 2: So now he's gone in the end if they don't

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Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing. I mean. Look, the hottest

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Speaker 3: pennies on the dollar right now. Now look, the other

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Speaker 3: multiple players involved here. Exactly where he ends up, I'm

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Speaker 3: I mean, would they trade, would they you know, use

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Speaker 2: So how could you tell me?

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Speaker 3: How do you know what this guy.

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Speaker 2: He's happy one day, he's not.

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Speaker 2: And it's you know, that's just his personality, I think

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Speaker 3: So I think I like the Jimmy Butler one. I

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Speaker 3: where he ends up, it's just going to be wild

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Speaker 5: A realistic of course, skis of course skates the Chicago Bulls.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So okay, if you're Phoenix tray eighton bridges, obviously

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Speaker 5: In a heart beat, Yeah, especially because I think the

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Speaker 3: wanted in Brooklyn. He got superstar talent around him in

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00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 3: James Harden and Kyrie was there. They did everything. I mean,

432
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 3: Sean Mark's and Joe Saide did a fantastic job in

433
00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,280
Speaker 3: putting all that talent together. It just didn't work. But

434
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,200
Speaker 3: that's what teams want, is like, we want those those

435
00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,800
Speaker 3: all NBA Hall of Fame talents together, but it just

436
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 3: didn't work out on the court.

437
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he really only has himself to blame, does

438
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,360
Speaker 2: he not. He picked this, he picked this superstar teammates,

439
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,040
Speaker 2: he picked this damn coach, you know. And I'm sure

440
00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,760
Speaker 2: I had others say in the rest of the roster.

441
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 3: And that's thinking, what does Steve Nash just say? Yeah done,

442
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 3: I'm done to Liken't.

443
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 2: Hear much from Steve this summer, No, I mean, I'm

444
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see if we hear from Yeah, the

445
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 2: Sean Marks and Steve and this front office there in Brooklyn.

446
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 2: Crazy another team that people are trying to like make happen.

447
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 2: Get Keatie to Memphis. You know, could they do something

448
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 2: with Jaron Jackson Junior though we just found out he's

449
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 2: going to be out four to six weeks. We'll get

450
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,639
Speaker 2: to that later in the show. Desmond Bean. You know,

451
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 2: they have Brooks, they have Clark, they have all their picks.

452
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,440
Speaker 2: There's a package there you could maybe talk yourself into.

453
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 2: But I'm started with you, Trey, Like the more I've

454
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 2: thought about this, after the immediate reaction yesterday, there's no rush.

455
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 2: You're Brooklyn, and could you salvage this could like, yeah,

456
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 2: the reports are out there that he wants to be moved,

457
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 2: but like the Kobe situation back in the day, could

458
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 2: he still be on your team come training camp because

459
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,439
Speaker 2: of other moves you've made, conversations, you've had, whatever. I

460
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 2: don't think that's out of the realm of possibility though

461
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 2: in today's game, like when a superstar of his magnitude

462
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 2: sort of like says get me out of here, like

463
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 2: you're better to usually sort of like all right, just

464
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 2: rip the band aid off and get a good deal back.

465
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Speaker 5: Probably Yeah, I think it's wishful thinking that the nets

466
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 5: would actually kind of fight back on this one. But

467
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 5: there's no doubt that the owners are going to fight

468
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 5: back on this kind of stuff when it comes lockout

469
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 5: time again. So this, like these sort of situations, eventually

470
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,679
Speaker 5: lead to lockouts. Unfortunately, I'm not backing the owners on

471
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 5: this one at all. I think it's great that players

472
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 5: actually get to choose where they want to play and

473
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 5: make their moves, But this is the stuff the owners

474
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 5: really want to fight about. You know, when they sign

475
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 5: a player who's supposed to completely change their franchise and

476
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 5: he does for the worst, Yeah, and it's.

477
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Speaker 2: Like, there are you can you hey man, you can

478
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Speaker 2: sign one in one deals like you've done before, like

479
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 2: Lebron of course has done every time again to put

480
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 2: pressure on the organization to keep like stand fresh, keep

481
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: making moves around the edges, stay competitive of all that.

482
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Speaker 2: But if you elect to sign long term, you know

483
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 2: you're you're committing to a team here for at least

484
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 2: a couple of years. And he's in theory doing the opposite.

485
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Speaker 2: If these reports are true, and can they salvage this?

486
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 2: Who knows? And and will there be a mystery team Lee.

487
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 2: I know the Suns are on top of everybody's list.

488
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 2: The Pelicans are a hot team. You know, they just

489
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 2: signed Zion to their massive tracked extension. Could but could

490
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,239
Speaker 2: Ingram be the big piece coming back? Celtics have been

491
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 2: really quiet here at the stur free agency or are they

492
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,479
Speaker 2: deciding what to do or are they trying to get

493
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 2: involved in this? But uh, there's always like with one

494
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: of these things, like whoa team out of nowhere maybe

495
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: putting together an even better deal. I don't know who

496
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 2: that is, but maybe it's out there.

497
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Speaker 3: Uh it was it Mobamba who tweeted out a picture

498
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Speaker 3: of him and Katie in Orlando Cara CA. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

499
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 3: yeah yeah. So maybe that's it. But look, ultimately, at

500
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Speaker 3: the end of the day, let's say the Nets decide, okay,

501
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 3: you know what, we're going to try to trade everyone

502
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 3: and all we want is all the draft capital in

503
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 3: the world. Then they have no you know, they don't

504
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 3: have to send Kevin Durant to a good time If

505
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 3: the best offer comes from an Orlando Magic and that's

506
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 3: what of course, the Nets one send him wherever they want.

507
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 3: I mean, why would they need to appease him at

508
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 3: this point, it's if he wants out. They gave him

509
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Speaker 3: the contract, he has to go wherever they send him.

510
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. But on the other hand, the team training for

511
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant has to have some faith Ken Durant not

512
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 2: pouting and playing and suddenly wanted to be moved.

513
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 3: So there's but again as a as a you know,

514
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 3: with the contract that he's got, at least they then

515
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 3: have they control the asset of that, so it's not

516
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 3: like you just can walk for nothing the following season.

517
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not gonna happen. He's not going to

518
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 3: wall Land. But he's okay, Oh no here, Oh man,

519
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: are you freezing?

520
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 2: Okay? Is he only freezing for me or Trey as well?

521
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 5: No, I'm just playing it cool.

522
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 2: Okay, me too. It was, but then you know it

523
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 2: went for a while. Okay, I think I understood what

524
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: you said early. Let's hear everybody's best Kevin Durant trade packages.

525
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: That's all everybody cares about, just like you know, how

526
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 2: do you get them to your team? That's the ultimate move.

527
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: I will say this, Tray, remove the bulls, because of

528
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 2: course you would want Kevin Durant. We'll remove the Raptors.

529
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 2: Of course I'd want Kevin Durant. H if you had

530
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 2: to pick any other team, just like purely from a like, Oh,

531
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 2: this would be fun for the league, just fun for

532
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: the casuals and the diehards, like and we'd be talking

533
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 2: about all the time, like it would just be crazy.

534
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 2: Which team if you could like get them to would

535
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: you want to see Kevin Durant on next season?

536
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 5: Okay, see Thunder I think is like the only thing

537
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 5: that actually helps Kevin Durant's reputation. If he goes back

538
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 5: to Oka, see plays with some of the young guys there.

539
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 5: Maybe they go with the ultra thin towers KD, Poku

540
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 5: and Chet all together six hundred pounds of man in

541
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Speaker 5: your front court and that's it. That would be the

542
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 5: most interesting to me, because joining one of the top

543
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 5: seeds in either conference not very interesting. Joining the Philadelphia

544
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 5: seventy six ers who have two current one MVP player,

545
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 5: one second place MVP player, then adding Kevin Durant that's

546
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Speaker 5: not interesting to me. Everything else seems completely far fetched.

547
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 5: Obviously the Thunder is far fetched, but it would be

548
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 5: cool to see.

549
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lee, you got pumped out that idea.

550
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: Well, because I was thinking. I wonder if anyone will

551
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: say that it would be just hilarious if he did

552
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 3: end up going back there to okay See and they

553
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 3: start winning again and everyone falls back in with Kevin Durrant.

554
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: They obviously have all the assets, you know, Sam Presty

555
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: could cash in a ton of those to give those

556
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: back to Brooklyn, but it would you know, I don't

557
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: think that's gonna happen. I am a little bit intrigued

558
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 3: by the Pelicans, though, I wouldn't be surprised if if

559
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: they try to make something happen because they got C. J. McCollum.

560
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 3: You know, obviously it would cost them ingram I think

561
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: at a minimum, but that would be They had a

562
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 3: good end to the season last season, so you know,

563
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 3: if Dave Griffin can get involved, I think he would.

564
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Speaker 2: My only other thought on this is, and I know

565
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 2: I'm not the first to make this point, but I

566
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 2: do love back to the Suns possibly trading for him.

567
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 2: Katy's had a lot of beef with Charles Berkley. You know,

568
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 2: he's been called a bus rider by Berkley. So there

569
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Speaker 2: is something interesting to me about if Kevin Durant would

570
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: go to Berkeley's old team Berkeley. Of course, taking the

571
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: Sons to the finals. Couldn't get over the hamp past

572
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 2: Jordan's balls there, but if Katy could do that, that

573
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 2: would be a pretty pretty damn funny going to the

574
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: desert there. Shutting up Chuck that way, But let's hear

575
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 2: everybody's reason where you want KD and why? Let us

576
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: know on the stream team, let us know in the

577
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,479
Speaker 2: YouTube comments, tweet on us at no dumpstick. Okay, are

578
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: we should we just move on from Durana? This we

579
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: already did basically thirty minutes. We'll be talking about him

580
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: every single podcast until he gets moved, I'm sure. Yeah. Well,

581
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 2: you said it was sort of boring, Tray, and maybe

582
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: that's true. Though there was a lot of like we

583
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 2: had like nearly twenty guys signing with new teams, we

584
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: had like twenty plus guys signing with their old teams,

585
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: and we had all these massive super Max contract extensions.

586
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: So there is some stuff to break down here, because yeah,

587
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 2: you know, not the biggest names moving for sure, but

588
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: there was some fun things. So my question Lee, you

589
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 2: geta started here of all the deals from day one

590
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: of free agency and even here into day two. I

591
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: guess what was the big one today, Ricky Rubio signing

592
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 2: a three year, eighteen million dollar deal to go back

593
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: to the Cavaliers. Which one was the biggest steal to

594
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: you from free agencies?

595
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 3: Well, look, I don't think it's a steal when you

596
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 3: resign your own guy. But I think Anthony Simon's at

597
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 3: four years and one hundred million is going to look very,

598
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 3: very cheap in the coming years. He improved a lot

599
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 3: this season. I thought he really took a step up

600
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 3: there for the Portland Trailblazer. So they get him on

601
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: what I think is a pretty moderate contract for a

602
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: guy who's a guy they drafted and have developed, and

603
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 3: he's shown to be quite good. Tough to know exactly

604
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: what his market value was and that certainly he wanted

605
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: to stay there. But I think, you know, with the

606
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 3: salary cap increasing, we've got a new TV deal in

607
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: the works as well, you're going to see that the

608
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: end of that contract, it's like, oh, that's pretty cheap

609
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: for a guy if he continues improvement. Now, look, he

610
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: doesn't do a ton outside of shooting the ball and scoring.

611
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 3: He needs to improve his like assists and his rebounds

612
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 3: and even his defense. There, but I think you've saw

613
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: last season he did take a really big step up,

614
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 3: So he's going to get more minutes, he's going to

615
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: get more opportunity. They're going to expect a lot more

616
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: of him. So if he can make those incremental improvements

617
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 3: in the other parts of his game, I think twenty

618
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 3: five million for a young girl like that is basically

619
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: a gift for the Blazers. Exactly what they're doing and

620
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: what direction they're going in still trying to figure it

621
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: out a little bit, but it certainly seems like they

622
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 3: are intent on keeping Dame and trying to build around

623
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: him and still, you know, surround him with better supporting

624
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: players and make a run for it with him still,

625
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: So I think getting Anthony Simons at four and one

626
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: hundred is a pretty nice day for the Blazers.

627
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other move the Blazers made was stealing Gary

628
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: Pete the second from the Warriors, the champion Gary Pete

629
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: in the second from the Warriors for three years twenty

630
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: eight million, So he got a nice little p day there,

631
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 2: And we thought the Warriors was the one guy they

632
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: would like be very high to keep. But at a

633
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: certain point, even Trey, they were like God. I mean,

634
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: that's gonna cost us twenty eight million. That's going to

635
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: cost us like times three basically. So Portland, congratulations, you

636
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: got GP. So yeah, they got to they keep Simons

637
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: and they got GP.

638
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 5: But what about you, Trey See, I'm actually I got

639
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 5: the other way on Simons. I think it leans more

640
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 5: towards an overpay than a steal in my book. When

641
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 5: I saw that number come down, if I'm a Knicks fan,

642
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 5: I'm like, one hundred and four million for Jalen Brunson.

643
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: We're laughing.

644
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: Who cares?

645
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 5: That's just the going rate for a good starting young

646
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 5: point guard. Because Simon's has like one year of real success.

647
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 5: It was during a tanking season with Damian Lillard out.

648
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 5: I think it's a good bet for the Blazers. He

649
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 5: should improve. He's a little bit younger obviously than Brunson,

650
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 5: but your team is going to look at very similar

651
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 5: I think, to a Lillard and McCollum backcourt with a

652
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 5: Lillard and Simon's backcourt. So we shall see how it goes.

653
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 5: But I still think a pretty smart move for the

654
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 5: Blazers to bring him in. I think he just makes

655
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 5: the Jalen Brunson deal look a whole lot better. As

656
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 5: for the biggest actual steal for me on day one,

657
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 5: Kyle Anderson go into the Timberwolves two years, eighteen million,

658
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 5: just a perfect fit for them. He plays defense, he

659
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 5: moves the ball, he doesn't really need the ball. He's

660
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 5: got some savvy, he's got some smarts. It'd be nice

661
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 5: if he had a better outside jumper, no doubt about it,

662
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 5: But the Timberwolves have some solid shooters. He'll probably be

663
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 5: playing a lot next to Karl Anthony Towns, who stretches

664
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 5: the floor. Anthony Edwards can stretch the floor, so so

665
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 5: maybe there's some space for Kyle Anderson to put the

666
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 5: ball on the floor and get to the hoop with

667
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 5: his slow motion drives. I think he'll be probably the

668
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 5: best forward they've got on the roster right now. And

669
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 5: it's a little bit of a change of pace from

670
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,239
Speaker 5: a guy like Jaden McDaniels or Jared Vanderbilt, who are

671
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 5: playing at a higher tempo, no doubt about it. So

672
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 5: Anderson to me a great spots starter, a great guy

673
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 5: coming off the bench.

674
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: He just fits in perfectly everywhere.

675
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I heard Rob Mahoney saying the Wolves strike

676
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: first in the battle between the Wolves and the Grizzlies

677
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: stealing one of their guys. Because you know that great

678
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: little playoff series there. I like that one as well.

679
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a great fit in Minnesota.

680
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: Anyone else, Lee, I mean we got like there's a

681
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: giant list. So if there's anybody else you want to

682
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: touch on here, now's the time.

683
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: Yeah again, like there wasn't that one player that you thought, well,

684
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: he's really going to move the needle for that team

685
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: either way?

686
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: Well your thoughts on Brunson, because Trey and I have

687
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: already weighed in. Yeah, we're high on it. We love it.

688
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: And like Trey said at the end, like four years,

689
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: one hundred and four million, I mean even lower than

690
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: I actually thought it was ultimately going to be. So

691
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: I like it. I know some people are questioning it

692
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: all is he ever even going to be an All Star?

693
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: How's he fit with Randall and RG and all that. Look,

694
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: we'll find out. I think he's exactly what TIB's lakes

695
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: in a point guard for sure, a little pick and

696
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: roll action here, let's go to work. But what do

697
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: you think about Brunton signing there?

698
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: Now? Look, he's a steady player. He's an improvement. They

699
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: tried with Kember last season and it was like, okay,

700
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: that seemed to be an upgrade at point guard, but

701
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 3: of course defensively he really struggled and he couldn't even

702
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: stay on the floor himself towards the end of the

703
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 3: season when they effectively released him. So Brunson is an

704
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: improvement there. And Brunson I think looked at his situation,

705
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: I guess in Dallas, and he was always going to

706
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 3: be behind Luca, and maybe he wanted a bigger role

707
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 3: and he wanted a bigger opportunity. So he's certainly gotten

708
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: what he's wanted in that sense. He's got the big payday.

709
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: He had a fantastic first round playoff series. He slowed

710
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 3: down a little bit after that. He's a good player.

711
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 3: You hope he turns into a lot more than what

712
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: he just showed this season. You hope he really does

713
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: grow and become much much better. But how much more

714
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: growth has he got. I can't see him being, you know,

715
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: a twenty five point per game guy. I think he

716
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: sort of taps out it around sort of eighteen to

717
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: nine in the game. But he should be at least

718
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: a good decision maker for them. Like that's the one

719
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: thing I like about his game is that he never

720
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: seems to be too rushed. He seems to be able to,

721
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: you know, make the right pass. He doesn't seem to

722
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: make silly, sloppy, careless turnovers all the time. If he

723
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: can improve his shooting and continue to knock down, you know,

724
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 3: like big shots, like he did hits for the MAVs again,

725
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 3: certainly in that first round series, he's going to be good.

726
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: But he also has to understand that in Dallas he

727
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: was kind of protected a little bit too, that like

728
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: the expectations on him weren't as high as they're going

729
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: to be in New York. And we know the Knicks

730
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: they're celebrating right now. They made the big move, the

731
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 3: big splash and free agency. But if things start off

732
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: rough and he has a rough season, he can't handle

733
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 3: the pressure and the spotlight of being a you know,

734
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: in a much bigger role on a team with much

735
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: higher expectations or much more pressure, I should say it's

736
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: going to be, it's going to be you know, could

737
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: backfire on him. So I think they had to make

738
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: this move though the Knicks. I think it was like Okay,

739
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: a play like he's caliber. Go out and get him.

740
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 3: You know, that's what it costs him. The MAVs were

741
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: going to pay him more or less the same, but

742
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: he chose the bigger role and the bigger opportunity in

743
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: New York. Now he has to go out there and

744
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: deliver and can he can he get up to an

745
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: All Star level? I'm not convinced, but maybe I'm wrong.

746
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: We'll see in this in the next season or so.

747
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: But the Knicks had to make the move. He wanted

748
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 3: a bigger role and bigger opportunity, so they both kind

749
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: of got what they wanted.

750
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Knicks are hoping he is on the honestly

751
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: the Kyle Lowry slash Van Vliet sort of trajectory right

752
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: where Lowerry come in obviously to Toronto turned into like

753
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: a perennial All Star. They're going to hope that is

754
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: the case of Brunson. Have compared him to Van Vliet.

755
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: You know, he obviously makes an All Star team there

756
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: for the first time recently, so I like it. I

757
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: just love the idea of like pairing him with RJ.

758
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: Barrett too, for his growth. I think that's good as well.

759
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: Trey any other like sort of, you know, just a

760
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: little little thumbs up that you want to show some

761
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: love to a nice little steal here or there. Here's

762
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: a couple of little tiny thumb, tiny thumb skeets. Yeah,

763
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: I think the Sixers are doing a really good job.

764
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 5: They're basically just trying to turn into the Rockets, but

765
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna work out.

766
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: PJ.

767
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 5: Tucker three for thirty three million, Dan well House two

768
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 5: for eight and a half million, and then obviously James

769
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 5: Harden has taken a little bit less per year, and

770
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 5: they traded Ford Anthony Melton. They've got better wing depth,

771
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 5: they've got more defense, and they've still got some moves

772
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 5: that the gig that they could be making going further

773
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 5: on here. So Sixers are doing a good job, and

774
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 5: I actually like what the Bucks are doing because basically

775
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 5: they said, we won the championship, we were looking all right,

776
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 5: and then our second best player got hurt in the playoffs.

777
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 5: So we're just gonna run it back and maybe Joe

778
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 5: Ingles will give us a little something come playoff time.

779
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 5: Who knows exactly how recovered he'll be by then, I

780
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 5: guess I guess he suffered his injury during the middle

781
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 5: of last season. So probably the goal for him is

782
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 5: just get healthy for playoff time and be a reliable

783
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 5: three point shooter and if he's able to do that

784
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 5: a nice signing for the Bucks. But I thought it

785
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 5: was pretty smart that they didn't panic and really overreact

786
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 5: to anything. They brought back Portis, Pat Conaton picked up

787
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 5: his option, Wesley Matthews is back, Javon Carter is back.

788
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 5: It's very different to like how the Lakers approached things.

789
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 5: They won the championship in the bubble, then they had

790
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 5: problems the following season where they did run into injuries

791
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 5: and they changed everything up and it didn't work. The

792
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 5: Bucks are saying, hey, we got Yiannis, we will be fine.

793
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 5: Let's just run it back and help everybody's healthy come

794
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 5: playoff time.

795
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lee, Any thoughts on your fellow ASI man there,

796
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: Joe Ingles in Milwaukee.

797
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 3: Well, that's right. I mean, he probably won't play until

798
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 3: close to the playoffs, but he's a vet to have

799
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 3: off the bench. I mean, he's a pretty good playoff player,

800
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 3: another guy who can run the offense and get under

801
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: the skin of maybe the opposing star play. He did that,

802
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 3: of course effectively for the Jazz against the Thunder with

803
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 3: Paul George, and you know he's got a bit of

804
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: a reputation for that. But yeah, happy to Joe. I mean,

805
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 3: because when he did his injury last year, it was

806
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: funny myself included people saying, well, he's done, he's going

807
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: to retire now, and Joe's like, I'm not retiring, guys,

808
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: I still want to play. So there's absolutely no rush

809
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: for him to get back. It's just get back one

810
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 3: hundred percent healthy, get some you know, hopefully you can

811
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: get back around probably March, get maybe fifteen games under

812
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 3: his belt, and then be a bit of an insurance

813
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 3: policy on the Bucks bench.

814
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 2: It's all vibes too at Joe Angeles Man already adding

815
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 2: them to a great team, great locker room in Milwok. Yeah,

816
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: keeps it fresh, getting a new jokester in here. Him

817
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: and Yannis be trading dad jokes. I'm sure left and right.

818
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 2: I like it. And then yeah, and they might, yeah, they.

819
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 5: Might trade Grayson Allen during the season as well, so

820
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 5: the vibes could get even.

821
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 2: Better, right, that's right. And then hopefully he gets healthy

822
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: and it's like, hey, Joe, can you win us a quarter?

823
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 2: Can you win us the half of a playoff game.

824
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: That's all we really need. And maybe it's a possibility,

825
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: but yeah, like Trey said, they really just locked up

826
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 2: their guys. I know one of them you wanted back

827
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: on your team, Bobby Portis, but like four years, forty

828
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: nine million, they said, nope, here you go, and Wesley

829
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: Matthews and Carter like you said as well, Okay, let's

830
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: flip this on its head.

831
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: Now.

832
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: What was the biggest overpay on day one? Trey, you

833
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: get it started here.

834
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 5: Most sticker shock for me was definitely Simon's getting one

835
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 5: hundred million dollars deal, because I just always flashed back

836
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 5: to like Juwanha getting the first hundred million dollars deal,

837
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 5: but that was many moons ago, Skimes, many many moons.

838
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 5: But biggest overpay for me, I'm sorry, it's got to

839
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 5: be loud Dort five years eighty seven point five million

840
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 5: dollars and the Thunder could have just had him for

841
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 5: like one point nine million going into this season. I

842
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 5: don't know who they were bidding against, but I think

843
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 5: you'll like loud Dort a lot better at two million

844
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 5: dollars than you like him at seventeen million dollars. The

845
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 5: potential is there for this to turn into a Kent

846
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 5: Baysmore contract. I think where you're like, we had to

847
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 5: sign him. He's a good defensive player and he's maybe

848
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 5: giving it all back offensively with the problems that you're having.

849
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 5: I know, Dort scored a whole bunch of points.

850
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: He's gotten better.

851
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he has gotten more opportunity. I would say

852
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 5: he's still barely a forty percent shooter from the field.

853
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 5: Maybe he's approaching leave average from three, but this just

854
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 5: seems like a crazy contract for a guy who is

855
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 5: at best like an all defense first team and you

856
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 5: hope he can actually play in the playoffs if the

857
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 5: thunder Aver try to make the playoffs again.

858
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, five years, eighty seven point five million lee for Dorot.

859
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: I mean he was on the he was on possibly

860
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: the league's best contract where he was getting, like Tree said,

861
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: like under two mill and does contribute obviously on one

862
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 2: day more than the other. But he gets paid. Good

863
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: old Canadian boy Montreal boys got paid yesterday with Buche

864
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 2: and him. Yeah, what what'd you think?

865
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, he's seventeen points a game he averaged last season,

866
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: But again it was on the sort of tanking thunder,

867
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure how much value you can take

868
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: out of that. But look, he works hard defensively, you know,

869
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: he gives everything he's got there. I expect him to

870
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 3: take more steps and improve more. But I also sort

871
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: of think this might have been Sam Presty maybe saying, listen,

872
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: this is a nice contract asset to have where we

873
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: can throw this guy in now to deals he couldn't

874
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: really throw him into other deals. And for next season

875
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 3: again one point nine million, you're basically playing for free

876
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 3: in the NBA at that rate, So I wonder if

877
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: you know, Presty's like, let's just let's just have this

878
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 3: cond tracked on the books here in case we need

879
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: to make another move. But you know, look, look thought

880
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: was undrafted, He's worked and scrapped for everything he's got,

881
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 3: and now he gets paid, So good on him.

882
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 2: What about you Lee Overpez from D one.

883
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: Well, marther Bagley's an interesting one. He got three years

884
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: and around forty million there from the Pistons. Now he

885
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: enjoyed his time there in Detroit? Is he worth it?

886
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: Is he even worth that much? Right now? About thirteen

887
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 3: twelve thirty million a season?

888
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: It up quite a bit there. You gave him two

889
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 2: and a half million more than he got. But yeah,

890
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 2: three years, thirty seven point five. It caught me by

891
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: surprise too. Yeah, see, I mean thirty seven though.

892
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 3: Look, honestly, Chris Bouchet got more or less the same deal.

893
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 3: I think Bouchet earned his way more than I thought

894
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 3: Bagley did in his time in Detroit. But I think

895
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: Detroit looked they traded for him. I think they only

896
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: gave up a couple of second round picks. Maybe they're

897
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: like the same sort of thing, this guy with a

898
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: bit more time, bit more opportunity here. I like what

899
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: Detroit's done so far in the off season. They're like,

900
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: we're not committing ourselves to But this is not three

901
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 3: years and eighty million or anything crazy like that. This

902
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: is a nice again, It's a contract where we think

903
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 3: this guy just enjoyed his time here. He's more settled

904
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: in Detroit. He didn't like being in Sacramento. Maybe we're

905
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: going to get maybe this will turn into a steal.

906
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 3: I'm not sure it.

907
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 6: Just because they're giving him thirty seven million because he

908
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 6: had a good time in Detroit, like Jets pizza so much,

909
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 6: they're paying him thirty seven million dollars.

910
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 3: Look, I just I think they just hope that he can.

911
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 3: They also signed Kevin Knox two years and six million.

912
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: I thought that was a little overpay. I thought, how

913
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 3: did Kevin Knox inn six million? He didn't even play

914
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 3: for anybody. But look, the Pistons again, they trade for

915
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: this guy. Maybe they're just like, we can keep this

916
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 3: guy without necessarily, you know, sabotaging our books down the road.

917
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: But also he was signed very early. It's like, was

918
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 3: there a huge market out there for Marvin Bagley? Not sure,

919
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: But anyway, well done to the Pistons overall.

920
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, he played. I mean Begley didn't even play twenty

921
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: games for them, but yeah, he was fine. I mean

922
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: when he when he gets a bit of an opportunity

923
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: at least get he puts up numbers. That's the weird

924
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: thing with Begley, right, he's like, yeah, sixteen and eight,

925
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: thanks Begley. But yeah he got you got you got

926
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: a bit of a nice deal here. But all of

927
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: these deals, I think, like we're saying even the overpaid

928
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: outside of like your opinion on Simons, which is true

929
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: because that one's like a twenty five million dollar deal.

930
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: Or Brunson as well, like if you're not that high

931
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: on them, you know, really even the dort one when

932
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: you break it down, could be it because it's five years.

933
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 2: Like nobody's getting like like so far at least like

934
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: over those over twenty million, you know what I mean.

935
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 2: Like we're in like a lot of like a lot

936
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: of ten million to fifteen million type deals here or

937
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: if not lower than that, there's like a lot of

938
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: eight million per year type of deals going a lot

939
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: of fields. Like feels like there was a lot of

940
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: two years, sixteen million type deals being kicked around yesterday.

941
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: So even these ones we say overpay, it's like you're not,

942
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: You're not torpedoing your your books and guess what they

943
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: could be traded later. But yeah, some surprising ones any

944
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: others Trey or that you're like, you know, not even overpaced,

945
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: but maybe just shocked you a little bit. You're like, oh,

946
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: he's either that person stayed with this team, went somewhere

947
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 2: and for that money.

948
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 5: I thought Mobamba was Gomba mejama back to the magic.

949
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.

950
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 5: I sometimes I feel crazy skeets where I'm like devoting

951
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 5: so much of my life to Like, looking at Mobamba

952
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 5: and Isaiah Hartenstein's stats, I'm like, oh, Heartenstein, this is

953
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 5: a huge pickup. The guy's a backup center.

954
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: Who cares? He was really a.

955
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 5: Backup center, But you know, good for him. But I

956
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 5: did think Mobamba was gone. It seemed like it seemed

957
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 5: like the writing was on the wall that he was

958
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 5: going to be going somewhere else, especially you know, the

959
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 5: Magic drafted another big guy, Wendell Carter Junior, obviously farther

960
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 5: along as a prospect than Mobamba, but he had his

961
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 5: best season of his career last year, so run it back,

962
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 5: I suppose.

963
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I would add to that too, even just

964
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: the Magic resigning Gary Harris for two and yeah you

965
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: said Obamba for two for twenty to one, it was

966
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: more just surprising, you're right in your head, You're like,

967
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: feels like these guys are gone. I guess of course,

968
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: you know, will they be included in trades down the line,

969
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: so definitely possible. But yeah, those ones, those ones were

970
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: a little shocked. Like those ones way more shocking than

971
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: the Raptors bringing back guys on their bird rights in

972
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: Satision and Chris Bouchet like that was like they sort

973
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: of did what the Bucks were sort of doing, like,

974
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: all right, like our team, bring these guys back that

975
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 2: are free agents. Let's go like do it basically in

976
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: the first hour or two a free agency. But yeah,

977
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: I was surprising there from the Magic and then the

978
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: Heat lead they brought back Oladipo one year, eleven million,

979
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: So like that's gonna be like a test. You're there

980
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: for Oladipo and uh, the guy you're scared of, Dwayne Deadmon. Yeah,

981
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: they signed with the Heat two years nine million, so

982
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: very cheap yew there for Deadman.

983
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little surprised that Deadman got the second year.

984
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: You know, look, he's he's a band aid solution. He

985
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: goes out there and plays a few mop up minutes

986
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: when they need him. He's fine. Oladepa Yeah, I think

987
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 3: they look at him and sink he's not a bad guy,

988
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 3: just to have deep on our roster. He had some

989
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: good moments, certainly in the playoffs there, but he's certainly

990
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: no longer that all star talent. So you get a

991
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: guy like that for eleven million. I thought, Look, the Mavericks,

992
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 3: one of the things that they needed was some interior help,

993
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 3: and they got obviously Christian Wood firstly, and then they

994
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: signed Javail for three years and twenty million yesterday. I thought, look,

995
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 3: Javal's become a pretty handy vet. Three years and twenty million. Again,

996
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: that's seven million a year. That's not going to hurt

997
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: you too much if you do need to move on.

998
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 3: But they just made an improvement. You know, they upgraded

999
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: in there, at least interior presence. So you know, good

1000
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: on Javeil for picking that up, because again Javal was

1001
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 3: out of league, like it's probably now seven or eight

1002
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: years ago where he was done, and instead he's turned

1003
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 3: himself into a pretty reliable veteran still getting paid. So

1004
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: good on it to him. Trey.

1005
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: Let me get your thoughts what the Lakers did in

1006
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 2: D one A free agency. Now, I know they're treading

1007
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 2: for Kyrie and Kad coming up here, but they signed

1008
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 2: Larnie Walker the fourth to a one year, six point

1009
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: five million dollar deal. They signed one Tuscano Anderson from

1010
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: the Warriors for one year. I think it was a

1011
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 2: Vets minimum again, he's going to La Troy Brown Junior

1012
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: same deal, one year Vets minimum contract, and then Damian

1013
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 2: Jones two years he's signed. I'm not sure the actual

1014
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: numbers on that one, but the Lakers getting Walker the fourth, JTA,

1015
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: Troy Brown Junior, and Damian Jones, and Malik Monk is gone.

1016
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: He's off to the Kings there for two years sixteen.

1017
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 2: What do you think?

1018
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 5: I think that's four fine rolls of the dice for

1019
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 5: the Lakers. Like, if two of these four hit, that's good.

1020
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 5: My guess would be the two most likely to hit

1021
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 5: would be Lonnie Walker and want Ascano Anderson. I like

1022
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 5: that they focused more on young athletic players who compete

1023
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 5: defensively than they did last season and was like, let's

1024
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 5: see who we can get from the twenty ten Eastern

1025
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 5: Conference All Star team. So I think that is smart.

1026
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 5: But I'm not expecting much contribution from any of the

1027
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 5: four of these guys. But it would be nice to

1028
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 5: see Lonnie Walker the fourth have a similar breakout he's

1029
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 5: in LA that Monk had. It's basically the same bet

1030
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 5: that the Lakers are making, as they did when they

1031
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 5: signed Monk as a free agent last year. You can

1032
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 5: score with the ball in your hands, you're an athlete,

1033
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 5: you can get out in transition. That should pair nicely

1034
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 5: with Lebron. It worked out for a Malak Wonk. We'll

1035
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 5: see if it works out for Lonnie Walker and Lee.

1036
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: Just going through the rest of the list here, you know,

1037
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: sort of touching almost on everything. Jayshawn Tate, he resigned

1038
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: with the Rockets three years, twenty two point one million

1039
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: dollar deal. I think that's actually really really nice deal

1040
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: for the Rockets. Nick Claxton resigns with the Nets two

1041
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 2: years twenty million, Patty Mills resigns with the Nets for

1042
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: two years fourteen point five million, and then you have

1043
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: the Clippers bring them back a lot of their guys

1044
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: zubots but two coffee and then Tias Jones resigned with

1045
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies two years thirty million, So he had a

1046
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: nice little payday there for Tias Jones as a as

1047
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: a really you know what, I've called one of the

1048
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 2: best backup point guards in the VIAU. That guy's never

1049
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,959
Speaker 2: gonna hurt you. But he gets a nice little contract there.

1050
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: I think that's a fantastic contract there, forty Grizzlies. I

1051
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 3: think he was excellent for them. And I've just seen

1052
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 3: as well. Mitchell Robinson signed four years and sixty re

1053
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 3: signed there with the Knicks. That's just coming through. Yeah,

1054
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 3: so look, that's that's fine. That's a fine contract. Mitchell

1055
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: Robinson should be better, he should be earning more, he

1056
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 3: should be on the floor. I think he's a very

1057
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 3: impactful player, but he can't stay on the floor and

1058
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: he's injured a lot, and he struggles to finish his game.

1059
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 3: So I think the Knicks have been like, we don't

1060
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 3: want to let this guy go. They did sign Hartenstein

1061
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 3: as a sort of extra help there, but Mitchell Robinson

1062
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: should be better than he is. So I think this

1063
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 3: is not a bad contract either way. The Knicks don't

1064
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 3: kill themselves, and Mitchell Robinson still got time here to

1065
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,959
Speaker 3: fulfill that talent that I think he has, just hasn't

1066
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 3: been able to sort of be consistent with it so far.

1067
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 2: And finally, Trey got to get your opinion on Big Beef,

1068
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: Andre Drummin go into your bulls for two years. I

1069
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 2: believe six point six million dollar deal. That's all Chicago's

1070
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: really done so far. Yeah, that's all they've done. Where's

1071
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 2: my Zach Levine news? I feel like I was watching

1072
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: Bucovich play in Memphis.

1073
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: Do something.

1074
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 5: So Zach Harper gave this a C plus for Chicago,

1075
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 5: and I think that's exactly right. Andre Drummond is better

1076
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 5: than Tristan Thompson. But if Andre Drummond and potentially Danilo

1077
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 5: Gallinari are the only moves this offseason, I'm gonna be

1078
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 5: a sad boy.

1079
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, well, hey, look it was only day one.

1080
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 2: We're only into day two here free agency. Zach Levine's

1081
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: gonna take his time, and the Bulls are who knows, Yeah,

1082
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 2: they're just getting ready for the big Kevin Durant trade

1083
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: for all we know. The final question here when it

1084
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: comes to free agency is like the most intriguing free agent.

1085
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: I guess trade target left on the board. We're gonna

1086
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: take Katie Off out of this equation here? Who is it?

1087
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: And I can give you a list of names to

1088
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: some of you, to you guys here and everybody joining

1089
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: us in the stream team here, and tell me if

1090
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: one of them really piques your interest. I think the

1091
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: biggest name sort of remaining in no particular order here, TJ.

1092
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: Warren is still out there. Pacers have his bird rights.

1093
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: We got Thomas Bryant on the Wizards. You got two

1094
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: Martin's my ann you got Caleb on the Heat, got

1095
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 2: Cody on the Hornets, Dante DiVincenzo, Sergean Baca, Jeremy Lamb,

1096
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 2: Otto Porter Junior, Rubio. You can cross him off the list.

1097
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: He is going back to Cleveland, Montrez, Harrel At Davis,

1098
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: Austin Rivers, I mean, Derek Jones Junior, Bruce Brown, Okay, okay.

1099
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 5: Bruce Brown to the Nuggets, okay, started, okay, Oh wow.

1100
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: To the Nuggets.

1101
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 5: Oh all right, two years, thirteen million.

1102
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: I like it. I'm not angry with that. That's a

1103
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: nice pick up there from Denver. Yeah, there's Robin Lopez,

1104
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: Bryn Forbes, Billitza An, anyone Lee like sort of left

1105
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: out there that you're like, or trade targets, bigger names, Rudy, Yeah,

1106
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: stuff like that.

1107
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 3: What do you think, Well, look, I think Otto Porter's

1108
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 3: I think probably gonna get a nice little payday here.

1109
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 3: I thought he was pretty handy for the for the

1110
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 3: Warrior and even returned to Golden State. Considering they've lost

1111
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 3: so many of their other role players as we've mentioned

1112
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: there to Anderson gone, Gary Payton's gone.

1113
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: You're still going to say Looney if they're keeping him.

1114
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 3: That's right. So I wouldn't be surprised if if they

1115
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 3: try to sort of keep him because they do need

1116
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 3: to restock and he just played that role very well

1117
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: well and then he started a couple of games there

1118
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 3: in the finals as well. Report it didn't do all

1119
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: that much, but you just know it's not bad to

1120
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 3: have a guy. And he's only twenty eight somehow still,

1121
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 3: so you know, he's still got a bit left in

1122
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: the tank there. But those other guys you mentioned, no

1123
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 3: one really is like sort of you know, PG Warren

1124
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 3: if he can bounce back from injury. Yeah, but he's

1125
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: the last time he played.

1126
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: Oh it's been a while. He's a bubble, the bubble.

1127
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember he made my first Bubble Team of

1128
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 3: the Week like down there. Yeah, that's nearly two years ago.

1129
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: So you know he's fallen out and then you know

1130
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler wanted to fight him. Maybe that was it,

1131
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 3: that was the end of his peak there. But yeah,

1132
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 3: I mean, look, someone Brent Forbes is going to go somewhere.

1133
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: You know, he's not a bad backup to have. But

1134
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 3: but no one's No one's breaking the bank for Britain.

1135
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: What about as sort of like a trade target. I

1136
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: mean it's been coming up time and time again, like

1137
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 2: will it ever happen.

1138
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: Eric Gordon, Oh yeah, I mean.

1139
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 5: It's gonna shock you. It's gonna Shota Skeids. The Sixers

1140
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 5: have been rumored to be interested and Eric interesting. Yeah,

1141
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 5: I mean, it's crazy to think that a former Houston

1142
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 5: Rocket could go to the Philadelphia seventy six ers. I mean,

1143
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 5: he's a good trade target, as I feel like we're

1144
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 5: gonna have to wait though. I think we're waiting on

1145
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 5: some of these big trades until we figure out what's

1146
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 5: going on with Kevin Durant. Then we'll move on to

1147
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 5: if DeAndre Ayton is involved in that trade, he's in

1148
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 5: the mix, and then we're moving on to Gobert or eight,

1149
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 5: and it is like the next guy to figure out

1150
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 5: after that, and then we'll probably start figuring out the

1151
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 5: rest of free agency. Another name that I haven't heard

1152
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 5: much about Colin Sexton. It's an interesting thing to see

1153
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 5: what the Cavs are going to do since they actually

1154
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 5: have his restricted free agency right so they could match

1155
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 5: whatever they want. But he's coming off an injury, still

1156
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 5: a solid twenty point per game scorer. Who if you

1157
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 5: are you know a team that's trying to scratch into

1158
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 5: the play in tournament maybe you want to try and

1159
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 5: a Colin, try and acquire Colin Saxon.

1160
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. And then and then the other

1161
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: team with two big potential guys that they can move

1162
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 2: or the Pacers league in Helkin Brogden and Miles Turner.

1163
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 2: Those are you know?

1164
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 6: That was?

1165
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: Those were hot rumors there for a felt like a

1166
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 2: week or so, and then it's sort of gone quiet

1167
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: again on these guys.

1168
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely Malcolm Brogden that certainly it seemed like he

1169
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 3: was virtually out the door there. The Knicks obviously were

1170
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 3: big on him, but once they got Jalen Brunson, I

1171
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: guess their interest died off. I still think they will

1172
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 3: move on from certainly one of those guys. They made

1173
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 3: the move last season, of course, getting rid of the

1174
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 3: bonus getting Halliburton. I think that's the direction they're going in.

1175
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 2: So like, are the Raptors, I mean, who knows what

1176
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: the KD whole thing likes. I really going to try

1177
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 2: and take a shot at that, but like say, that's

1178
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 2: not realistic. Are the Raptors like trying to put together

1179
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: a deal for one of these three centers that we're

1180
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: talking about in Eton In Gobert or in Miles Turner,

1181
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 2: I mean possible.

1182
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's no question that messiagh Jerry's wants

1183
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 3: to improve in that area. You can't just have six

1184
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 3: seven guys across the board, which he has had. Exactly

1185
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 3: which one he will get and which one he thinks

1186
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 3: is the best fit is tough, but MESSAGERI I just believe,

1187
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 3: you know, as we saw with the Kawhi Leonard deal,

1188
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: he's going to get in there and make a move,

1189
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: and he will not be afraid to trade one of

1190
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 3: those big names. He won't fall in love with anyone

1191
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 3: too much if that's what it takes to get that

1192
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 3: bigger name coming back. It's just whether or not do

1193
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 3: you believe DeAndre Ayton is going to continue? Is he

1194
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 3: going to develop and improve or is he sort of

1195
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: already where he is right now, which is a good player.

1196
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 3: But he's again he's I've made the reference before, he's

1197
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 3: a bit of a Ben Simmons that the numbers haven't

1198
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 3: really improved since that rookie season. They've been more or

1199
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 3: less stagnant. So you know, do you want then in

1200
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: that case, do you want a Miles Turner not a

1201
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 3: great defensive player. I mean he block shots, but he

1202
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 3: still gets beaten a lot, but he spreads a floor

1203
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: a little bit more of a modern big. And then

1204
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 3: the Rudy Gobert, you know, fantastic defensively. Can you unlock

1205
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: him a little bit more or utilize him a little

1206
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 3: bit better on the offensive end. So something will happen

1207
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 3: in Toronto. I don't know, maybe I'm just here, maybe

1208
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 3: it's in the air, but I feel the Rafters are

1209
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 3: going to make a move. I think something. I think

1210
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 3: something pretty medium to big is gonna happen in Toronto.

1211
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: Medium to big. Yeah, we're also like size wise, I think, yeah,

1212
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: we're trying to figure out, like what I really want

1213
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 2: to know what the Jazz are doing here. You know,

1214
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 2: they move Royce O'Neil, they get a they get a

1215
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: first round pick. It probably gonna be a little bit

1216
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: later in the first round, but they get that back

1217
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 2: from that's not bad and like, yeah, what a like

1218
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: we all expect him to like quote unquote blow it

1219
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 2: up at least move one of their big names. Do

1220
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 2: they really lean into like a to a tank here

1221
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: and like try their chances at getting one of those

1222
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: big names in the draft. I think it's I think

1223
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: it's possibly in play. What does this mean for Conley?

1224
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: Could somebody go get Conley? You want like a vet

1225
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 2: point guard, like help? You know, you're really really close,

1226
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 2: you think you're like close to a championship. Could you

1227
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,919
Speaker 2: get him? So we'll see, but this probably all starts

1228
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: and ends with the Nets and what they do with

1229
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant. Kyrie Irving did have some contract extensions though

1230
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: let me chuck the match you here. Trey had some money,

1231
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 2: had some money handed out to these superstars in the league.

1232
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: Jokich five year, two hundred and sixty four million dollars

1233
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 2: super max contract extension with the Nuggets, Bradley Beal he

1234
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: got his five year, two hundred and fifty one million

1235
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: dollars super max contract extension with the Wizards. And we

1236
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 2: had Booker and Towns both signing their max extensions with

1237
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 2: their teams respectably, and the Suns and the Wolves four

1238
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: years two hundred and twenty four million. We had John

1239
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 2: Morant agreeing to his five year, one hundred and ninety

1240
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: three million dollars designated rookie maximum extension with the with

1241
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies, but that could become two hundred and thirty

1242
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 2: one million, just like Zion with the Pelicans, same sort

1243
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: of deal there. So Jokic, bal Booker Towns, John Morant,

1244
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: Zion Trey, any thoughts on any of these huge Supermax

1245
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: contract extensions.

1246
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 5: Biggest contract in NBA history goes to a guy who

1247
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 5: has drafted number forty.

1248
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 2: One during a Taco Bell commercial.

1249
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 5: That's honestly incredible stuff that Jokic is getting this humongous

1250
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 5: of a deal, five years, two hundred and sixty four million.

1251
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 1: Whoo.

1252
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 5: That's exactly the reason why the Nuggets have been shaving

1253
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 5: their salary cap their luxury tax bill throughout the off season.

1254
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 5: And I'm pretty interested to see how they continue to

1255
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 5: fill out this team around him, because obviously Yokic is

1256
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 5: in his prime. He's a back to back MVP.

1257
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 2: He's getting two.

1258
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 5: Stars back alongside him and Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Junior.

1259
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 5: But as of now, the bench is pretty thin. I

1260
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 5: love that they picked up Bruce Brown because they needed

1261
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 5: somebody else off the bench, because otherwise you got bones Highland.

1262
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 5: Jeff Green is still there. Who knows what Naji's gonna

1263
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 5: give you, Devon Reed, they signed to a deal ish Smith.

1264
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 5: They've got a rookie in Brown and they signed DeAndre

1265
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 5: Jordan for some reason. I feel like there's gonna be

1266
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 5: a ton of preushure on Michael Porter Junior to fulfill

1267
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 5: the promise that we've seen in his career. He was

1268
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 5: a bubble boy once upon a time, Lee, he was

1269
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 5: an incredible player in the bubble maybe the all Bubble team,

1270
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 5: got that big contract and then missed the most of

1271
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 5: last season. But that Jokich contract is humongous. Obviously you're

1272
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 5: paying him that contract, but you're also paying two big

1273
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 5: contracts to Murray and Michael Porter Junior.

1274
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: It can be tough to build a.

1275
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 5: Deep enough team to win a championship if you're paying

1276
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 5: three max contracts, and we will see how that plays

1277
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 5: out for a Nuggets team that hasn't been spending a

1278
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 5: ton right now, Jokich is good enough that they're going

1279
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 5: to be a top three or four team in the

1280
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 5: Western Conference, but there's a lot of pressure now on

1281
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 5: Murray to regain his form and Michael Porter Junior to

1282
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 5: regain his form and honestly go even further because after

1283
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,959
Speaker 5: their top three, things are pretty spotty in Denver.

1284
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 2: Lee, any thoughts on what Tray's talking about there with Denver,

1285
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: are those other contract extensions?

1286
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad that there was no hesitation at all

1287
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 3: from the Nuggets to throw the super Max there, because

1288
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 3: we talk about them a lot Denver, where they do

1289
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: seem to be shaving money and cost cutting and things

1290
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 3: like that. But when it came to Yoka, just like, no,

1291
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 3: give him the full bag and don't even have anyone

1292
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 3: going like, what are you doing, Denver? Why you're trying

1293
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 3: to cheap out on him? So they did that. I

1294
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 3: wonder if the Nuggets try to dangle the Michael Porter Jr.

1295
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 3: To the nets and some draft capital there. I mean,

1296
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 3: that would be an interesting scenario. I mean, he's a

1297
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 3: young player. We know he's got the potential injury concern

1298
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 3: of course, but that's maybe something that could at least

1299
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 3: get the conversation started. The other thing is the Bradley

1300
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 3: Beal extension. I mean, it's just a matter of time

1301
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 3: before Beale becomes disillusioned with the franchise and things. You

1302
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 3: know what I think I want to move on to now, surely,

1303
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 3: like why, I mean, you listen, he got his money

1304
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 3: fair enough, you know, don't begrudge anyone getting paid what

1305
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 3: they are entitled to get paid there, But I cannot

1306
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 3: see Beale not at some point in the next season saying,

1307
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 3: you know, I changed my mind and I think it's

1308
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 3: time for me to seek a new home and new

1309
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 3: opportunity here. Oh, just after I signed my contract extent.

1310
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 2: So you give it a year, maybe a year now,

1311
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 2: you say, you see this coming season will get the

1312
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: report that Beal's not either happy with Portzingis and the

1313
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: direction of the franchise.

1314
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Speaker 3: I think it's just a matter of time. I think,

1315
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 3: before that ink is even dry on that contract, there's

1316
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 3: going to be rumors that Beale's like, I thought the

1317
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 3: franchise was going to do something different, you know, I

1318
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 3: thought we were going to trade Kevin uh Christaps Porzingis

1319
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 3: for Kevin Durant, but it didn't happen, So I don't

1320
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 3: know it. Just look, it just seems to me that Beale,

1321
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 3: you know, said all the right things in the last

1322
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 3: few days. He wants to be that one guy on

1323
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 3: the one team, but at what end?

1324
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: To what end?

1325
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 3: I mean, he's basically sacrificing they may not even make

1326
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 3: the playoffs again Washington as now right now.

1327
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that's a tough like all these other

1328
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 2: guys that we mentioned with those Super Macs, you know,

1329
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: you know their playoff teams, they're obviously very talented young players.

1330
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 2: The Bill is the one that's sort of like whoa

1331
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 2: makes you go wow? Is that guy a five year,

1332
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty million dollar player. Hey, that's the

1333
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: real team for Kevin Durant to change the narrative about him,

1334
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: you know, Legacy go home, go to Washington, finally make

1335
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 2: it happen, save that franchise.

1336
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 3: Ah.

1337
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: Then they.

1338
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, you've heard of Mitch Richmond, Bradley Beal is rich Mitchmond.

1339
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

1340
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 5: I will give the Wizards a tiny bit of credit here.

1341
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 5: They're gonna be better next season, There's no doubt about it.

1342
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 5: They brought in Monte Morris, they brought in Delon Right.

1343
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 5: They're trying to corner the market on guys who have

1344
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 5: been called the best backup point guard in the league. Unfortunately,

1345
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 5: they couldn't get Tias Joe, so they've got better back

1346
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 5: court depth. They also drafted Johnny Davis. We'll see what

1347
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 5: he can do, but a lot of questions, no doubt

1348
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 5: in the front court. Number one is Porzing is gonna

1349
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 5: be able to stay on the court. He performs when

1350
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 5: he does. Another Bubble boy. We got to send those

1351
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 5: guys back to Orlando. Yeah, just get all of them

1352
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 5: back there for the perfect setting. So you've got him,

1353
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 5: and then you've got questions with kiss Bert, with Danny Abdia,

1354
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 5: with ruy Hachamura, Like, are any of the three of

1355
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 5: those guys gonna be players? If they pop a little

1356
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 5: this year, the Wizards could be looking at a ninth seed.

1357
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: Come on, buddy, like this idea of the Orlando Magic

1358
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 2: should lean into just bringing the bubble boys back together, Like,

1359
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: just go get them all, Go get t J. Warren.

1360
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: It's a good idea. Build a team that was like

1361
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 2: balling out down there. It's something in that Florida weather.

1362
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: All right, let's call it there. With day one a

1363
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: free agency, we tried to touch on basically all of

1364
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: the signings, either re signing with teams or the little

1365
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 2: bit of movement. Let's hear from you, who's the biggest seals,

1366
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: biggest overpays, what are your thoughts on the contract extensions,

1367
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 2: and of all the names left right now, which one

1368
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 2: intrigues you most? And of course, Katie Talk, Go Bear Talk,

1369
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: Brogden Turner all that good stuff. In other news, though,

1370
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: I will throw this at you guys. I slipped it

1371
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: in there. But Grizzlies big man Jared Jackson Junior underwent

1372
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 2: surgery on Wednesday to address a stress fracture in his

1373
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 2: right foot, so he's expecting to be sidelined for approximately

1374
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: four to six months. The team is very confident he's

1375
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 2: going to make a full recovery here. But this guy Lee,

1376
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 2: you know, his first two seasons ended early and knee injuries,

1377
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: and then he had that moniscous tear there right in

1378
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: the bubble, So the Magic will not be trading for

1379
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 2: him that required surgery. But he stayed healthy last season,

1380
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 2: played seventy eight games. But they're taking care of this,

1381
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 2: this stress fracture in the foot here.

1382
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was awesome last season. I thought he

1383
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 3: was really really very high on Jackson, very high on him.

1384
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 3: So bummed that he's probably not going to be back.

1385
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: I guess around Christmas at this sort of earliest, based

1386
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 3: on that four to six month timetable, which is still

1387
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 3: you know, he's still enough of the season there that

1388
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 3: he can get back and get into his full sort

1389
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 3: of routine and full swing by playoff time.

1390
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 2: You're not going to rush it after and all that,

1391
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that.

1392
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 3: Well, no, And look he got four years and one

1393
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 3: hundred million, so you know that was I mean probably

1394
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 3: part of it. That he has had some injury concern

1395
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 3: So you just hope that he can get over this,

1396
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 3: recover and get back to being the player that he

1397
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 3: was last season, because you know, there was some questions

1398
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 3: is he going to be the right guy alongside jar Moran.

1399
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 3: He's not a banger of a big, He's more a

1400
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 3: finesse big. But last season he really really sort of

1401
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 3: broke out of his you know, out of his own

1402
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 3: sort of shell there and became important for the Grizzly.

1403
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,439
Speaker 3: So they're going to miss him for sure.

1404
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: Trady thoughts on Triple J There. Yeah, I mean, foot

1405
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 2: injuries are terrible.

1406
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 5: You got to use your feet for everything when you're

1407
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 5: playing basketball, and Jared Jackson Junior is a huge dude

1408
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 5: from height and weight. So hopefully he's able to get

1409
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 5: his foot rate and be back in time for the

1410
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 5: playoffs and looking okay, and that this isn't the sort

1411
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 5: of thing that lingers because we've seen foot injuries derailed

1412
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 5: careers time and time again and that could be bad

1413
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 5: news bears for the Grizzlies.

1414
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 2: No bear punt intended.

1415
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 5: It's been a tough start I think to free agency

1416
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 5: and to the offseason for the Grizzlies, all things considered. Obviously,

1417
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 5: they got jaw On a huge deal, gotta do it,

1418
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 5: smart move, but they lost Melton, they lost Kyle Anderson.

1419
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 5: Now we found out that Jared Jackson Junior isn't going

1420
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 5: to be playing. Good job saving it with Tias Jones.

1421
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 5: But those three in Melton, Anderson and Jared Jackson Junior

1422
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,439
Speaker 5: are huge defensive players for the Grizzlies, which is really

1423
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 5: how they're able to score in transition. So I wonder

1424
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 5: what it's going to be like looking at their team

1425
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 5: next year having to rely a little bit more as

1426
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 5: an offensive first team.

1427
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we will see guys emailing your NBA questions too.

1428
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 2: No dunks at the Athletic dot Com followus on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,

1429
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 2: TikTok at No dunk see get yourself an athletic subscription.

1430
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 2: Go to Athletic dot com slash no dunks so you

1431
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 2: can follow the the live tracker. When it comes to

1432
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 2: free agency, you know they got their full recap of

1433
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 2: Day one and then all the signings and trades and

1434
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: available players coming here up in day two, three, four, five,

1435
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 2: and six and so on. Lee, how long you in

1436
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 2: Canada for?

1437
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 3: What are you up to there? Well, it's Canada Day today. Yeah,

1438
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 3: so I'm heading up to the Cokes today. The coke

1439
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 3: Fro Muskoka's gonna be uh at the Cottage. I'm going

1440
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 3: to start a new trend going to the Cokes. Yeah.

1441
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 3: We'll be out there for the weekend and Monday, back

1442
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: on Tuesday, I think, yeah, and then we're back in

1443
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 3: the studio Wednesday, Vegas, Thursday. I think that's right.

1444
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 2: That's right. We're also having a little get together on Saturday,

1445
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 2: July ninth in Vegas around seven pm at Starboard Tech.

1446
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: All right, it's called Starboard Attacks. Okay, we're not doing

1447
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 2: a live show. There's no tickets, you gotta buy, nothing

1448
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 2: like that to worry about. You just got to get

1449
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 2: your ass if you want to see us and have

1450
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 2: a drink to Starboard Tack July ninth in Vegas around

1451
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 2: seven pm. So hopefully we'll see you there. If you're

1452
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 2: going out for Summer League, I can't believe that's starting soon.

1453
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 2: I can't believe it's July and completely honest.

1454
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 3: And you want me to bring you back a little

1455
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 3: timmyos when I come back. Oh yeah, I'm fine, you

1456
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 3: can bring them back.

1457
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: What I want? I think ketchup chips. I think is

1458
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 2: usually at the top of mine.

1459
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, maybe a coffee Crisp.

1460
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 2: I could go for one of those.

1461
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 3: Right now, Coffee Crisp and some and some ketchup chips. Hey,

1462
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 3: you'll get them for you, all right?

1463
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 2: Great stuff? And Trey, Oh my god, I can't believe

1464
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 2: I forgot to ask this off the top the biggest

1465
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 2: free agency question probably on the board. Have you signed

1466
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 2: on the dotted line and brought in the twenty twelve

1467
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 2: Toyota Highland or Hybrid?

1468
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 3: How's it happened?

1469
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 5: Contracts are signed, the deal is done, but we're waiting

1470
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 5: to go through physicals. We have to do that after

1471
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 5: the moratorium period ends on July fifth. But I've gone

1472
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 5: into the archives. I've been looking for jerseys that say

1473
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 5: Kirby on the back, and I've been brainstorming ways to.

1474
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:54,479
Speaker 2: Hang it from.

1475
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 5: I think what I got to do is like pop

1476
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 5: the windshield wipers up so they're kind of like sticking out.

1477
01:06:58,720 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's good. Do it.

1478
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 5: My next question that people in the stream scene could

1479
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 5: help me answer, how would you shake hands with the car?

1480
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 5: You know, I think I'm going like, I'm gonna grasp

1481
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,479
Speaker 5: the side mirror as if it's a hand. Yeah, hello,

1482
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 5: you know, like I'll be shaking. It'll be wearing the jersey.

1483
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 2: So stay tuned. Yeah, okay, when you do that, when

1484
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: you do that photo, I like that shake the mirror.

1485
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 2: I think makes sense. Put a little hat though, like

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Speaker 2: put a hat on the car too, Okay, okay, like

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Speaker 2: even even if it's just a bulls hat or something

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Speaker 2: like that. Okay, great, glad we figured that out. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's call it there. That's an hour plus of Free

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Speaker 2: Agency round up at least when it comes to day one,

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Speaker 2: and a whole lot of KD talk. So guys, subscribe

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Speaker 2: like the video and leave your boys a five star

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Speaker 2: rating review if you listen to the pod on Apple

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Speaker 2: or Spotify. Who knows when we'll be back. Could be

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Speaker 2: on the weekend something big breaks. Otherwise, it could be

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Speaker 2: earlier next week, and at the very least we will

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Speaker 2: all be back in the factory come Wednesday. I think

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Speaker 2: there's an no breaks on Wednesday as well. Is that correct?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Is it Wednesday? You know you know I'm bad at

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Speaker 2: the schedule with this one. I think it is Wednesday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm seeing some reports here that we've got a

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Speaker 5: wet race, a wet FP one at Superston, so it

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Speaker 5: could be an.

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Speaker 3: Exciting Also, protests apparently happening out there.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we'll see. Okay, So that's no breaks midweek

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Speaker 2: next week and no dunks at some point over the

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Speaker 2: weekend or early next week. Don't you worry, because the

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Speaker 2: NBA never stops, you know, when we say, hey, let's

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Speaker 2: take a week off and then a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: shit happens. So you got clipper bros.

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Speaker 5: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

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Speaker 5: Love you guys awesome, thanks for joining us. And remember

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Speaker 5: a car's arms are its windshield wipers, but its hands

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Speaker 5: are its mirrors.

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Speaker 2: Embrace the weekends, people, Happy Canada day.

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Speaker 3: You could stay.

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Speaker 4: Every day, happy, every minute. It's been so long that

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Speaker 4: you're the one I've waiting for. It's happened already. It's

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Speaker 4: gonna be gravy