WEBVTT - The Fifth Hour: The Lee Elia Tribute

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<v Speaker 1>Kutbooms.

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<v Speaker 2>If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes

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<v Speaker 2>a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants

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<v Speaker 2>of the Old Republic, a soul fashion of fairness. He

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<v Speaker 2>treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the

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<v Speaker 2>rich pill poppers in the penthouse.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>The Clearinghouse of Hot takes break free for something special.

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<v Speaker 2>The Fifth Hour with Ben Mallard starts right now in.

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<v Speaker 1>The air everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>The Fifth Hour with Me, Ben Mallor and Danny g

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<v Speaker 4>Radio A Happy Friday to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Although you can listen to this oneever.

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<v Speaker 4>This is more of an evergreen pod than what we

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<v Speaker 4>normally do on the Fifth Hour. But it is the

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<v Speaker 4>summer of twenty twenty five. We're in July, and come one,

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<v Speaker 4>come all, gather around the magic pod box. You won't

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<v Speaker 4>believe your ears. Be ready to smile. I'm talking cheshire

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<v Speaker 4>Cat smile from ear to ear. It is time to

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<v Speaker 4>pour one out for our homie. A Bonus Malard monologue

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<v Speaker 4>in honor of the late great former Cub manager Lee

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<v Speaker 4>Ilia and Phillies manager who left this mortal coil. And

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<v Speaker 4>he left this world with a legendary microphone meltdown for

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<v Speaker 4>the ages, the Michael Angelo of the coaching Rant. People

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<v Speaker 4>talk about the greatest of all time. They did a

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<v Speaker 4>rant on my overnight show last night. You might have

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<v Speaker 4>heard it on the Ben Maler Show, and I mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>that people talk about who's the greatest quarterback in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 4>and some people will say Back in the day, they'd

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<v Speaker 4>say Joe Montana. Now everyone says, well, it's Tom Brady.

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Brady's the greatest of all time. They say who's

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<v Speaker 4>the greatest baseball player? Most people say, Babe Ruth is

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<v Speaker 4>the greatest baseball player. Oh, there's a name Willie Mays

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<v Speaker 4>or someone like that, but most people say Babe Ruth.

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<v Speaker 4>They say, who's the greatest basketball player of all time?

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<v Speaker 1>The real ones know it's Michael Jordan. The real ones

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<v Speaker 1>know it's Michael Jordan.

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<v Speaker 4>You say, who's the person that gave us the greatest

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<v Speaker 4>rant of all time into a news conference?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's Lee Ilia.

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<v Speaker 4>So that is the one that stands out, the Michelangelo

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<v Speaker 4>of the coaching Rant. So in his memory, in his honor,

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<v Speaker 4>we are cracking open the vault on the Fifth Hour podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Here it's Benny's big board, not a list, not a

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<v Speaker 4>list to Terry in England. Now I was thinking of

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<v Speaker 4>doing this anyway, and then my senior advisor, a platinum

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<v Speaker 4>artist who is back in the mallor Palooza this year,

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<v Speaker 4>our friend Jayscoop, and he had messaged me. He works

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<v Speaker 4>in collaboration with just Josh, and he's like, this would

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<v Speaker 4>be a great idea. So the again, not a list.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to make sure that's on the record.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a list.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is Benny's big board, the five greatest microphone

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<v Speaker 4>meltdowns in US sports history. Now this is the coaching,

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<v Speaker 4>and I left a lot of the basketball. In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no basketball in this. I can do a separate

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<v Speaker 4>subcategory in basketball. Lee Ilia was a baseball manager, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>and so this is almost all baseball and mostly football.

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<v Speaker 4>Because it's not an ordinary big board, it's a full on,

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<v Speaker 4>off the cuff, top of my dome compilation. These are

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<v Speaker 4>the most epic, unhinged rants to ever grace a presser,

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<v Speaker 4>at least that I remember today that I cobbled this together.

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<v Speaker 4>So if we missed any of your favorites, and we did,

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<v Speaker 4>you know we only have limited time here.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit us up. Let us know.

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<v Speaker 4>You can email me real fifth hour at gmail dot com,

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<v Speaker 4>Real fifth Hour at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll try to accommodate you.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, before we get to the five at the very

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<v Speaker 4>top of Big Ben's Big board, we have the honorable

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<v Speaker 4>mention category because we got to give props before we

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<v Speaker 4>get to the big dogs, the big dogs. We're going

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<v Speaker 4>to start out in Cincinnati, home of legendary show contributors

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<v Speaker 4>like just Josh, who we already mentioned, and Justin and Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 4>So the Reds have been a glorified dumpster fire for years,

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<v Speaker 4>but one of the great rants, and it reached honorable

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned status, was a number of years back the Red

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<v Speaker 4>set of manager named Brian Price. Let's just say the

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<v Speaker 4>price was not right. As Price was upset, the Reds

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<v Speaker 4>beat writers had led out a secret about a roster

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<v Speaker 4>move the Reds were going to make before the team

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<v Speaker 4>announced it, and that led to a record setting seventy

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<v Speaker 4>seven f bombs in a tirade that while it didn't

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<v Speaker 4>make the top five, it did make honorable mention. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>give you a little taste of this. This is Brian

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<v Speaker 4>Price years ago the res and you're probably about ten

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<v Speaker 4>years ago or so. Listen to him, and he starts

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<v Speaker 4>out rather come and next thing you know, it's F this,

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<v Speaker 4>F that, F you blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a listen.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, look, I don't need you guys to be

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<v Speaker 5>fans of the Reds.

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<v Speaker 6>I just need to know that if there's something that

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<v Speaker 6>we want to keep here, that it stays here. We

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<v Speaker 6>don't need to know that Tucker Barnhart's in the airport

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<v Speaker 6>when we haven't spoken to Kyle Skipworth. I think we

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<v Speaker 6>owe them and that kid the right to be called

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<v Speaker 6>and told that he's going to be sent down, as

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<v Speaker 6>opposed to reading that Tucker Barnhart's on his way and

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<v Speaker 6>from Louisville. I just I don't get it. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>get why it's got to be this way. Has it

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<v Speaker 6>always been this way? Where we just tell everybody everything?

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<v Speaker 6>So every opponent that we have has to know exactly

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<v Speaker 6>what we have, relievers are available, which guys are here,

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<v Speaker 6>and which guys aren't here when they can play what

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<v Speaker 6>they can do. It's nobody's in business. It's certainly not

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<v Speaker 6>the opponent's business. We've got to deal with this. I

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<v Speaker 6>like to talk, and I have spoken as candidly as

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<v Speaker 6>I can with you people. If if that's not good enough.

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<v Speaker 6>I won't say a thing. I'll go yes, sir, no certain,

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<v Speaker 6>and I can do that. But I've been as candid

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<v Speaker 6>as I can be about this team and our players,

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<v Speaker 6>and we got to deal with this. Every team that

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<v Speaker 6>we play has to know everything guy that's here and

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<v Speaker 6>what they can and can do.

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<v Speaker 5>Me so in disgrace and sick of it.

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<v Speaker 6>It's hard enough to win here to have every opponent

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<v Speaker 6>know exactly what we bring to the table every day.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what I'm saying, to make it very clear. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't like the way that this is going at all.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think you guys need to know everything, and

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<v Speaker 6>I certainly don't think that you need to see something

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<v Speaker 6>and tweet it out there and make it in world event.

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<v Speaker 6>How do we benefit from them knowing that we don't

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<v Speaker 6>have Devin Mesarako?

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<v Speaker 5>How do we benefit from that they benefit from it?

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<v Speaker 6>I just want to know how we benefit from these

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<v Speaker 6>people knowing that we don't have a player here. Can

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<v Speaker 6>you answer that? How is that good for the Reds to? Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 6>it's making my job harder, Sure it is, well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't just don't know if that's what we're supposed

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<v Speaker 6>to do, or we supposed to open up everything here

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<v Speaker 6>for everybody to know all the time. So it's all

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<v Speaker 6>I want to know what your expectations are, because me,

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<v Speaker 6>if I got to tell these guys we got to

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<v Speaker 6>go out there and they know we don't have Devin Mesuraka,

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<v Speaker 6>what benefit is that to me as a manager and our.

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<v Speaker 5>Team to win a game?

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<v Speaker 1>All right?

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<v Speaker 4>So that Devin Mesurako or whatever the guy's name was,

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<v Speaker 4>and that was Brian pie seventy seven f bomps. That's

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<v Speaker 4>just a little taste of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Got kind of boring. He kept saying the F word,

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<v Speaker 1>but it got kind of boring. That was the meaty

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<v Speaker 1>part of it.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is the honorable mention on Big Ben's big board.

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<v Speaker 4>These are some of the great tie raids in honor

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<v Speaker 4>of Lee Ilia. Now he tried to find the top

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<v Speaker 4>audio on John McKay.

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<v Speaker 1>This is way back.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going back to the nineteen seventies, so this is

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<v Speaker 4>way over fifty years ago. John McKay was one of

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<v Speaker 4>the great college football coaches of all time. At the

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<v Speaker 4>University of Southern California. He wasn't getting paid a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of money. They didn't pay a lot of money back

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<v Speaker 4>in those days. He was getting low balled and near

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<v Speaker 4>the end of his career he's like, gos, screw it.

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<v Speaker 4>The Tampa Bay Buccaneers were an expansion team and this

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<v Speaker 4>renegade owner, Hugh Culverhouse, who was despised, he actually was

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<v Speaker 4>like the godfather of the La Rams.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a whole different story.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the guy that owned the Bucks offered John McKay

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<v Speaker 4>to more than double his salary. They made him like

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<v Speaker 4>the highest paid coach in football at the time. So

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<v Speaker 4>John McKay left the University of Southern California and he

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<v Speaker 4>went all the way to Tampa to coach the Buccaneers.

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<v Speaker 4>And they were an expansion team. They were terrible, and

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<v Speaker 4>John McKay was a quote machine. Now one of the

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<v Speaker 4>great quotes of all time. I tried to find the auto,

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't find it. It was when he was asked

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<v Speaker 4>about his team's execution and he famously said, I'm in

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<v Speaker 4>favor of it. Now, they give you an idea how

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<v Speaker 4>crazy times have changed. A few years back. I forget

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<v Speaker 4>who the coach was, but a coach used that line

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<v Speaker 4>like I think it was an NFL coach used that

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<v Speaker 4>line might have been a college coach, but they just

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<v Speaker 4>repeated it and the wokesters on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe the coach said that.

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<v Speaker 4>So I didn't find that sound bite, but I did

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<v Speaker 4>go to the archive from This is a clip, old clip.

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<v Speaker 1>From NFL films. I think this came from.

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<v Speaker 4>This is some of the highlights of John McKay. He

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<v Speaker 4>was coaching the Buccaneers. He's on the sidelines and listen,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll give you a little taste of this. It's honorable

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<v Speaker 4>mention John McKay. We're going back over fifty years and

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<v Speaker 4>here's John McKay on the sidelines, miked up for NFL films,

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<v Speaker 4>and listen to him critique his Tampa Bay Buccaneers in

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<v Speaker 4>real time.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a listen, don't hit him, don't hit him.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, let's say, oh, jeezus, gentlemen, who can't stop a

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<v Speaker 7>pass or a run.

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<v Speaker 5>We're in great shape.

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<v Speaker 7>I have a lot of careers going in Monday.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, let's play everybody. We're just hard.

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<v Speaker 8>We're not proving one thing here.

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<v Speaker 5>We we prove we can't play.

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<v Speaker 7>That's not it's just he was a football Another damn chicken.

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<v Speaker 5>We got out here.

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<v Speaker 7>That's what I say, we got some many fucks and

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<v Speaker 7>no sour. Yeah, yeah, I would figure that you would

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<v Speaker 7>stagger around. What's wrong with playing mont in the game?

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<v Speaker 7>He tackles, He's only got one chass Megas football team.

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<v Speaker 7>He asks like he's got it made. He ain't got

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<v Speaker 7>nothing made.

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<v Speaker 1>All right?

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<v Speaker 4>So that was that was John McKay, Uh chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>That was pretty good. I like that.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's that's back in the nineteen seventies. Another honorable mention, Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>the greatest of all time Bobby Knight college basketball. So

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<v Speaker 4>I said there were no coaches from basketball liede bad

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<v Speaker 4>job by me.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no NBA coaches. But this is Bobby Knight.

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<v Speaker 4>And going back many years, he was still at Indiana

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<v Speaker 4>Legendary Indiana Who's yours college basketball coach? Also coached at

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<v Speaker 4>Texas Tech. And here is Bobby Knight giving out advice

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<v Speaker 4>on what he wanted to happen when he finally died.

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<v Speaker 4>Now Bobby's dead, but listen to this wisdom from the

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<v Speaker 4>late great Bobby Knight.

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<v Speaker 5>When my time.

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<v Speaker 9>On Earth is gone and my activities here are past,

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<v Speaker 9>I want they bury me upside down and my critics

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<v Speaker 9>can kiss my and.

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<v Speaker 1>The crowd goes wild.

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<v Speaker 4>The crowd goes wild as Bobby Knight walks away. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>Another honorable mention on this fifth hour honoring Lee Ilia.

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<v Speaker 4>We go to New Jersey and a man who got

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<v Speaker 4>a television career because of a roughly thirty second rant

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<v Speaker 4>to the media. We are talking going back twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe this soundbite's from This is HERM Edwards and

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<v Speaker 4>it is an infamous SoundBite. Did not make the top

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<v Speaker 4>five on Big Ben's Big Board. But here's HERM Edwards

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<v Speaker 4>coaching the Jets. Things were not going well, because things

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<v Speaker 4>never go well when you're coaching the Jets. But here's

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<v Speaker 4>HERM Edwards on what it is all about.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a listen.

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<v Speaker 10>This was great about sports. This is what the greatest

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<v Speaker 10>thing about sports is. You play to win the game. Hello,

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<v Speaker 10>You play to win the game. You don't play to

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<v Speaker 10>just play it. That's a great thing about sports. You

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<v Speaker 10>play to win, and I don't care if you don't

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<v Speaker 10>have any wins. You go play to win. When you start.

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<v Speaker 5>Telling me it doesn't matter to retire.

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<v Speaker 1>Get out, get out.

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<v Speaker 4>That was HERM Edwards giving a sermon that is still

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<v Speaker 4>gospel to this day. People that are young that never

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<v Speaker 4>even knew who horm Edwards were or was.

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<v Speaker 1>Rather like, oh herm Edwards.

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<v Speaker 4>The last honorable mention before we get in to the

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<v Speaker 4>top five on Big Ben's Big Board. This is not

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<v Speaker 4>on the top five. It is my personal favorite and

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<v Speaker 4>I love this. Back when we used to have sound

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<v Speaker 4>on the show and drops on the show, and back

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<v Speaker 4>in the old days, we played a lot of drops

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<v Speaker 4>from this particular guy. It's a college football coach at

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<v Speaker 4>Coastal Carolina. The Shanta Clears, I believe, is what their

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<v Speaker 4>mascot is. Here is David Bennett, the only college coach

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<v Speaker 4>to sneak into Big Ben's Big Board in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>honorable mention. He was at Coastal Carolina and for some

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<v Speaker 4>reason he started talking about well, he started talking about

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<v Speaker 4>cats and dogs and it well, just listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying to get our two boys ready to gear him

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<v Speaker 3>a goff ternment foot prints right, twelve cats live across

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<v Speaker 3>the road.

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<v Speaker 5>Our door's open.

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<v Speaker 1>Screens broke. We need to get a new screen door.

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<v Speaker 3>But the screens broke, so you can come in through

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<v Speaker 3>the screen, but you can't get back out of I

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<v Speaker 3>turned to look, there's a little kitty cat in our kitchen,

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<v Speaker 3>so I.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, what are you doing in here? A little kitty cat.

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<v Speaker 1>By that time, the cat turns, tries to get back out,

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<v Speaker 1>that scream won't go that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Cat starts going all crazy, and I told our players

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<v Speaker 3>we need more dogs. Bows barging in the back after

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<v Speaker 3>go shut bow up, mels like, what's going on? It

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<v Speaker 3>says the cat and house cat in the house. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>it is a cat in the house. So I told

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<v Speaker 3>our players, I try to let it out the front door.

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<v Speaker 3>The cat's still going crazy in there, and I told

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<v Speaker 3>our players.

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<v Speaker 1>You needy bit more like a dog. We don't need

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of cats in here. Looking in the mirror,

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<v Speaker 1>I look good.

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<v Speaker 3>I got my extra bands on, I got my other shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>Be a dog.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't need no mowns. We don't need no cats.

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<v Speaker 3>We need more dogs.

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<v Speaker 4>We all need more dogs. We all need more dogs.

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<v Speaker 4>That was great, David Bennett. I don't know what happened

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<v Speaker 4>to him. I looked it up a couple of years back.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what he's doing. He's probably retired at

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<v Speaker 4>this point. That was a years ago rant from the

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<v Speaker 4>coach at Coastal Carolina. And as you may remember, my

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<v Speaker 4>father in law my in laws have a house in

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<v Speaker 4>North Carolina, and I was down there a couple years

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<v Speaker 4>back with the wife. We went to visit him, and

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<v Speaker 4>we drove by Coastal Carolina. And when we were driving

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<v Speaker 4>by Coastal Carolina, I was like, this is a big deal.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, they had an ad up in the airport

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<v Speaker 4>we flew into. I think it was in Myrtle Beach,

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<v Speaker 4>I believe any I don't remember where. It's been a

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<v Speaker 4>little while, but.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a sign up for the school. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the school.

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<v Speaker 4>The Cats and Dogs guy went to. That's the guy

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<v Speaker 4>right there. That was huge, huge, all right, Now turning

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<v Speaker 4>the page, Let's go to the main event. Now, Benny's

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<v Speaker 4>big board. Not a list, not a list. Five microphone

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<v Speaker 4>meltdowns in US sports history, the Coaching edition, And we

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<v Speaker 4>go to number five.

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<v Speaker 1>Numbber five, Numbber five, an underrated rant old school.

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<v Speaker 4>We go now to Minnesota. He was the head coach

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<v Speaker 4>of the Old Minnesota Vikings. Jerry Burns. Jerry Burns, and

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<v Speaker 4>he came out swinging, defending his offensive coordinator with a

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<v Speaker 4>profanity laced outburst that was equal parts loyalty in lunacy

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<v Speaker 4>as Jerry Burns worked himself up burnsy into an absolute tizzy,

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<v Speaker 4>spitting fire at the football media who was questioning the

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<v Speaker 4>Minnesota Vikings play calling. And he was a poet, a

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<v Speaker 4>poet of rage. Let's go in the hot tub time

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<v Speaker 4>machine back. I think this is in the late eighties,

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<v Speaker 4>early nineth these. Here is Jerry Burns, the Minnesota Vikings

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<v Speaker 4>head coach, passionately, passionately defending his offensive coordinator. And listen

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<v Speaker 4>to Jerry Burns. Let's go to the audio tape.

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<v Speaker 11>Let me say something. As long as I'm in his

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<v Speaker 11>fucking job, Schnelker will be the offensive coach.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, no, no question fucking about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Fucking question about that.

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<v Speaker 11>We I don't like the name names after a fucking

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<v Speaker 11>after a fucking game, but we we can't. We can't

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<v Speaker 11>be responsible for the block, and we can't be responsible

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<v Speaker 11>for the guys jumping off side. We can't be responsible

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<v Speaker 11>for the fun we get down there and and uh

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<v Speaker 11>and it was a dumb play by by Anderson.

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love Anderson, but it was a numb

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<v Speaker 1>fucking play.

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<v Speaker 11>When he had with his foot was shoe was coming

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<v Speaker 11>off up the line, screat we were hard to take

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<v Speaker 11>time out we had a fucking trap play called and

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<v Speaker 11>and his fucking shoe comes off.

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<v Speaker 1>That ain't that ain't bought Schneker's fall.

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<v Speaker 11>We have another fucking trap play and then he picks

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<v Speaker 11>up his fucking feet, he walks in.

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<v Speaker 1>We got the fucking the pass.

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<v Speaker 11>Who ac out there in the flat is the boss

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<v Speaker 11>throwing in low?

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<v Speaker 1>That is a Sneker's fault.

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<v Speaker 11>We got right down there, we got we got the

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<v Speaker 11>second down and then what the hell two years ago

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<v Speaker 11>out of what fifteen forty, whatever the hell it was,

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<v Speaker 11>and Irwin, she jumps off side. These are things that

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<v Speaker 11>have been hurting us all along, the little things. We're

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<v Speaker 11>working at him to stop them. We goog the ball

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<v Speaker 11>good today. We went down there and we didn't get

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<v Speaker 11>the bone hands on him.

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<v Speaker 1>He wouldn't stin.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was Jerry Burns after a win, ranting and

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<v Speaker 4>defending somebody named Bob Snelker, who was the offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 4>of the Vikings back in I think this was nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>eighty nine, So that was number five on Big Ben's

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<v Speaker 4>big board.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Burns defending Bob Schnelker.

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<v Speaker 4>Now the number four, number four a oldie, but a

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<v Speaker 4>goodie an NFL coach undressing one of his players. Mike

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<v Speaker 4>Singletary was the baddest man on the planet when he

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<v Speaker 4>played linebacker for Mike Ditka, and Dicka almost made this list.

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<v Speaker 4>We were trying to find there were a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>Mike Dicka rants we didn't. We weren't able to find

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<v Speaker 4>the audio. So we're going with Mike Singletary here at

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<v Speaker 4>number four. He was very briefly the forty nine ers

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<v Speaker 4>head coach, and they had a first round pick who

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<v Speaker 4>was a athletic gift from the gods. Fact, we had

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<v Speaker 4>this guy on this podcast a while back, Vernon Davis,

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<v Speaker 4>and things were not going well early in Vernon Davis's

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<v Speaker 4>career built like a Donnas. He wasn't playing up to

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<v Speaker 4>Mike Singletary's standard as the forty nine er coach, and

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<v Speaker 4>so Mike Singletary, in front of the media on national

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<v Speaker 4>television in a postgame news conference, pantched Vernon Davis. In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>it got to the point where Mike Singletary on Mike,

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<v Speaker 4>you'll hear it here. Mike Singletary not just called out

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<v Speaker 4>Vernon Davis, it was a public execution where he essentially

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<v Speaker 4>said they would be better off playing a man short.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the audio tape.

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<v Speaker 4>Here is Mike Singletary whose number four.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a listen, Vernon, Vernon.

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<v Speaker 12>Just was something that I told everybody at the very

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<v Speaker 12>beginning of the week. I will not tolerate players that

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<v Speaker 12>think it's about them when it's about the team and

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<v Speaker 12>we cannot make we cannot make decisions that costs the

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<v Speaker 12>team and then come off the sideline and it's nonchalant, No,

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<v Speaker 12>you know what. This is how I believe. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 12>from the old school.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe this. I would rather play with ten people.

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<v Speaker 12>And just get penalized all the way until we got

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<v Speaker 12>to do something else, rather than play with eleven when

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<v Speaker 12>I know that right now that person has not sold

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<v Speaker 12>out to be a part of this team. It is

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<v Speaker 12>more about them than it is about the team. Cannot

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<v Speaker 12>play with him, cannot win with him, cannot coach with him,

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<v Speaker 12>can't do it.

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<v Speaker 4>So good, so good. I was really pulling for Mike Singletary.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember being on the air at Fox Sports Radio.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like, I want this. I need Mike Singletary

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<v Speaker 4>to be a good head coach, just because of stuff

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<v Speaker 4>like that. Unfortunately, he sucked as a head coach. It

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<v Speaker 4>didn't work out, but we will always have that, and

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<v Speaker 4>that is Mike Singletary, number four, number four on the

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<v Speaker 4>big Board.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a list.

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<v Speaker 4>Cannot play with him, cannot win with him, cannot coach

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<v Speaker 4>with him, can't do it, can't do it. And I

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<v Speaker 4>realize we're on an audio only thing here on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>But Mike Singletary's eyes, it's like he's a superpower. He

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<v Speaker 4>can literally burn you up with his eyes and just

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<v Speaker 4>apps great. Not at number three, number three on Big

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<v Speaker 4>Ben's Big Board.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the greatest rants in honor of the late

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<v Speaker 1>greatly Aelia who left us.

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<v Speaker 4>This week we pour out this big board in honor

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<v Speaker 4>of Lee Ilia. So now we get to the Fox

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<v Speaker 4>Sports Radio Alumni edition and someone that we had on

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<v Speaker 4>this podcast as well. I got to do some radio

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<v Speaker 4>shows with him. Very exciting for me. I was a

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<v Speaker 4>fan of him. I knew who he was. I'd watched

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<v Speaker 4>him when I was younger. I got to do some

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<v Speaker 4>shows with him at Fox Sports Radio. The great Jim Mora.

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<v Speaker 4>Now for many people Playoffs is the greatest rant of

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<v Speaker 4>all time, but not for us, Not for us, and

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<v Speaker 4>not my big board.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not your big board, it's my big board.

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<v Speaker 4>So for me, we're going to go back to Jim Mora,

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<v Speaker 4>who was coaching the Saints nineteen ninety six.

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<v Speaker 1>This comes from it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Week eight, all right, this is the eighth game of

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<v Speaker 4>the nineteen ninety six season. And the Saints came out

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<v Speaker 4>and they were terrible, and Jim Mora calmly walked out

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<v Speaker 4>wearing his Saints gear, his coaching gear. After the Saints

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<v Speaker 4>had lost the game, he got to kind of a

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<v Speaker 4>makeshift podium and he unleashed an absolute masterpiece.

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<v Speaker 1>This is masterpiece theater.

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<v Speaker 4>Frustrated, and he gave us one of the all time

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<v Speaker 4>great phrases in this exasperated meltdown.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a listen to.

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<v Speaker 4>Jim Mora as he gave his state of the New

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<v Speaker 4>Orleans Saints address, as only coach Mora could do.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a listen.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, what happened was that second game we got our

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<v Speaker 13>ass kicked, or the second half we just got our

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<v Speaker 13>ass totally kicked. We couldn't do Diddley Pooh offensively. We

0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:54.159
<v Speaker 13>couldn't make a first down. We couldn't run the ball.

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 13>We didn't try to run the ball. We couldn't complete

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<v Speaker 13>a pass, We sucked the second half. We sucked. We

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<v Speaker 13>couldn't stop the run. Every time they got the ball

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<v Speaker 13>and went down and got points. We got our ass

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<v Speaker 13>totally kicked in the second half. That's what it boiled

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<v Speaker 13>down to. It was a horse performance in the second half.

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<v Speaker 14>Four.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm totally embarrassed and totally ashamed coaching art were our

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<v Speaker 13>coaching did a horrible job. The players did a horrible job.

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:20.440
<v Speaker 13>We got our ass kick in that second half. It sucked,

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:21.159
<v Speaker 13>it stuck.

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:23.919
<v Speaker 4>How do you really feel, coach more, how do you

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:28.400
<v Speaker 4>really feel? All that was so good, so great, loved, loved.

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 4>Jim Mora one of the greatest people.

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 7>Know.

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of athletes and coaches or whatever that

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 4>have passed through the building in Sherman Oaks over the years,

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 4>but Jim Mora just great, just absolutely wonderful. The stories

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:45.119
<v Speaker 4>he told some that we can't repeat, wonderful. But that

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:49.880
<v Speaker 4>line we couldn't do Diddley Pooh offensively. That is the

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:54.280
<v Speaker 4>line that made this number three on Big Ben's Big

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<v Speaker 4>Board on this special edition of the Fifth Hour Podcast.

0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:03.679
<v Speaker 4>Now we move up to Bert Dude, number two and

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:07.879
<v Speaker 4>number two, another member of the Fox Sports Radio alumni Association.

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 4>I I got a couple of stories about this guy.

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 4>But let's get right into it. We're going way back.

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 4>The Arizona Cardinals.

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had to go there, right.

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:20.679
<v Speaker 4>The Arizona Cardinals had just lost a game against the

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.360
<v Speaker 4>Chicago Bears. I believe this game was on a Monday night,

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:27.920
<v Speaker 4>and Dennis Green got up to the dais. The Bears

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:30.960
<v Speaker 4>had come back in the game against the Cardinals. The

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:33.439
<v Speaker 4>Arizona thought they were going to win the game, and

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 4>Dennis Green eyes wide voice cracking, he had a nuclear

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 4>meltdown at the podium and take a listen to the

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 4>great late Dennis Green.

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 15>Wait, the Bears are what we thought they were. What

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 15>we thought they were. We played them in preseason. Who

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 15>the hell takes a third game in a preseason like

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 15>a s boop? We played them the third game, everybody

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:01.640
<v Speaker 15>played three quarters or who we thought they were.

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:05.640
<v Speaker 16>Now, that's why we took the damn field. Now, if

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 16>you want to crown him, they crown their ass. But

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:11.360
<v Speaker 16>they are who we thought they were. And we got

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:13.480
<v Speaker 16>about the hook all.

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Right, Thank you? Kay was so good.

0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:18.680
<v Speaker 4>So when I was doing college radio at Saddleback College,

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:21.959
<v Speaker 4>it was a it was a DJ at the college

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:26.360
<v Speaker 4>radio station was a jazz format, and the program director,

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 4>who was my professor, not really a program director, he's like, hey,

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 4>there's this guy.

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>He knew I liked sports.

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 4>He said, this guy that's a coach in the NFL

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 4>and he's a jazz musician and he wants to come

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.879
<v Speaker 4>by and promote his music and we want you to

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:41.399
<v Speaker 4>talk to him.

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Because I was like the only DJ that liked sports.

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, sure, I'd love to do it.

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:49.160
<v Speaker 4>And he said, he's the guy that coaches the Minnesota Vikings.

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>I said really.

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, I think I know he used

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 4>to coach at Stanford, and yeah, yeah, that's the guy.

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:56.679
<v Speaker 1>And so it was.

0:26:56.840 --> 0:27:00.239
<v Speaker 4>It was Dennis Green, and we had him in and

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 4>we played his music and we talked to him and

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 4>he was great and wonderful. He was so kind to me.

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 4>He handed me his business card. He said, listen, Ben,

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 4>anytime that we are in As you know, the Vikings

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.159
<v Speaker 4>were in southern California at that time, The Raiders and

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 4>the Rams were in LA. The Chargers were in San Diego,

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 4>and Saddleback is in Orange County, but south Orange County,

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 4>so it's kind of in between LA and San Diego

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 4>and Coach Green was like, hey, listen, anytime the Vikings

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 4>are in the area and you want tickets, here's my

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 4>personal card. He gave me the card. He gave the

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:43.120
<v Speaker 4>extension to his secretary. He says, you call her up

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 4>and this is the card. I'll get you tickets. No,

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 4>I never did it, but it was just really cool.

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 4>It was like the coolest thing at Dennis Green. Like, I'm,

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:54.439
<v Speaker 4>you know, fresh out of high school. I'm barely in

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:57.359
<v Speaker 4>college and Dennis Green is NFL head coach, the coach

0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 4>of the Minnesota Vikings is like, hey, now we'll hook

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 4>you up. And then I got to work. Very briefly,

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:06.640
<v Speaker 4>I say I got to work with him. I don't

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 4>know if that's the right way to say it, but

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 4>Dennis Green was hired at Fox Sports Radio after he

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 4>left the Cardinals.

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Very briefly, I say, very briefly.

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to do this off memory as I remember it.

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 4>Dennis Green worked at Fox Sports Radio for approximately two weeks.

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 4>His agent got him the job at FSR, so he's

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 4>working at Fox Sports Radio.

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Fine. Well.

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 4>After taking the job, ESPN, which pays a little bit

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 4>more money than Fox Sports Radio offered Dennis Green a

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 4>TV job, so he was there about two weeks.

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 1>It might have been a little longer than that, but

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't much longer than that. And Dennis Green.

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 4>Left and skidaddled off to television, and that was the

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 4>last we saw of the late great Dennis Green. Now

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 4>do number one on Big Ben's Big Board. And here

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 4>we are the very top of the mountain, the peak

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 4>of the Mountain, paying tribute to the King of all meltdowns.

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Lee Elia.

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the man, the myth, the microphone murderer set this up.

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 4>We played it on the Overnight Show. But I'm gonna

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 4>play the extended dance remix. And I don't think this

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 4>is edited as far as like the bad words, you'll

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 4>hear all the bad words.

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's the early nineteen eighties.

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 4>It's April twenty ninth of nineteen eighty three. I am

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 4>a child. I didn't know about this at the time,

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 4>but it happened on my birthday. So the Cubs had

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 4>just gotten their ass kicked by the Dodgers, and the

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 4>Cub fans were booing it Wrigley. The players in those

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 4>days had to go out to the outfield. The clubhouse

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:56.239
<v Speaker 4>was in center field, so they had to go out

0:29:56.280 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 4>to the outfield. The Chicago Cup fans were throwing all

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 4>over the players, and lee Ilia found out about this,

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 4>and he did not appreciate it. It is the gold standard.

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 4>There are some lines in here that can never be matched.

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 4>They're the all time greatest. He went on and on

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 4>and on. It was drill sergeant like, So let's go

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:24.479
<v Speaker 4>back in the hot, tough time machine the week that

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 4>we lost Lee Ilia.

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 1>He passed away a couple of days ago.

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 4>Here is Lee Elia, then, the Chicago Cup manager, nineteen

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 4>eighty three, with the single greatest rant of all time.

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 4>This is why Lee Ilia is the goat of the

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 4>media meltdown.

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 8>I'll tell you one fucking thing. I hope we get

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 8>fucking hotter and shit, just to stuff it up them

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 8>three thousand fucking people that show up every fucking day,

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 8>because if they're the real Chicago fucking fans, they can

0:30:55.320 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 8>kiss my fucking ass right downtown and try it. They're

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 8>really really behind you around here, my fucking head, What

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 8>am I supposed to do? Go out there and let

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 8>my fucking players get destroyed every day and be quiet

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 8>about it. For the fucking nickel dyin people to show up.

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 8>The motherfuckers don't even work. That's why they're out at

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 8>the fucking game. They only go out and get a

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 8>fucking job and find out what it's like to go

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 8>out there and are fucking living. Eighty five percent of

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 8>the fucking world work it. The other fifteen come out

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 8>here the fucking playground for the cocksuckers. Motherfuckers, cocksuckers like

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 8>the fucking players. God guys bussing their fucking hands, and

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 8>these fucking people do. And that's the come my fucking ad.

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 8>They talk about the great fucking support that the players

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 8>get around here. I haven't seen it this fucking hair.

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 8>The name of the game is hit the ball, catch

0:31:55.880 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 8>the ball, and get the fucking job done. Right now, Well,

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:03.959
<v Speaker 8>we have more laws than we have wins. The fucking

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 8>changes that have happened in the Cup organization are multipoles,

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 8>all right. They don't show because we're five and fourteen,

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 8>And unfortunately that's the criteria of them. Some fifteen motherfucking

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 8>percent that come out to day baseball. The other eighty

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 8>five percent are earning a living. It'll take more than

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 8>a five and thirteen or five and fourteen to destroy

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 8>the makeup of this club. I guarantee you that there's

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 8>some fucking pros out there that want to fucking play

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 8>this game, but you're stuck in a fucking stigma. The

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 8>fucking Dodgers and the Phillies and the Cardinals and all

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 8>that sheep shit. These mother fucking editorials about say and

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 8>fucking the phillyitis and all that shit. That's sickening. It's unbelievable,

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 8>it really is. It's a disheartening fucking situation we're in

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 8>right now. Five and fourteen doesn't gate all that work.

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 8>Put me three fucking games left. I'm trying to say it.

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 8>Don't rip them fucking guys out there, rip me. Do

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 8>you want to rip somebody, rip my fucking ad, But

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 8>don't rip them fucking guys because they're killing everything they

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 8>can give. Once we hit that fucking groove, it'll flow,

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 8>and it will flow. The talent's there. I don't know

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 8>how to make it any clearancey. I'm frustrated. I'll guarantee

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 8>I'm frustrated. It'd be different if I walked in this

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 8>room every day at eight thirty and saw a bunch

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 8>of guys they didn't give a shit. They give a

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 8>shit and It's a tough natural ad a tough National

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 8>League period.

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 1>All right.

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 4>So there it is Lee Ilia, the classic meltdown. Poh

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:51.959
<v Speaker 4>rest in peace, Lee Ilia. A couple of notes on that.

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 4>I actually ran into Lee Ilia years ago. The Dodgers

0:33:56.480 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 4>hired him as a advisor consultant. Ned Kaletti was the

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 4>general manager of the Dodgers, and I saw Lee he lived.

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 4>I think he lived in Atlanta at the time. He

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 4>lived on the East Coast somewhere. However, he occasionally would

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 4>show up to Dodger Stadium, and many people who are

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.760
<v Speaker 4>my buddies in the media knew that I love that sound.

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 4>That's the greatest sund You're not liked that, and they

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:26.359
<v Speaker 4>would say, hey, there's Lee Ilia. So I saw him

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 4>in the immediate dining room there at Dodger Stadium. I

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 4>also met the Les Grobstein, he also lost Less, Les Grobstein,

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 4>who was the Chicago radio man that recorded that I

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 4>ran into Less. Actually in Indianapolis. I was there for

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 4>a basketball game. Les was there as well, and he

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 4>told me the story. I was introduced to him.

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>And I was introduced to him as.

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 4>The guy that got the audio recorded the audio. There's

0:34:55.719 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 4>two radio legends that recorded Meltdown's Paul Olden, who's now

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 4>the voice of Yankee Stadium, the public address announcer. He

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 4>recorded Losorta, Kingson's performance and all that, and so that

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 4>was that was one of the greats. And I was

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 4>gonna include Tommy in this, and I was like, there's

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:17.800
<v Speaker 4>like a different sub category for Tommy. My favorite Losorta

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 4>rant is Kurt Bavoqua. That is to me the great

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 4>in fact, you know what, I know we're talking about, Leah,

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 4>I want to why don't we.

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Play that right here?

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:33.399
<v Speaker 4>The Dodgers had a picture named Tom Needenfeer who had

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 4>been fined for throwing at one of the San Diego

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 4>Padres players. That led to Kurt Bavoqua tell the media.

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 4>He told the sports writers that the person that should

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:51.280
<v Speaker 4>have been fined was the manager, the fat little Italian, well,

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 4>Tommy Lesorta, who was the apparently the fat little Italian

0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 4>that Kurt Levaka was talking about. He was asked about

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 4>that the following day, and that led to what is

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 4>the greatest rant by Tommy desaur is not the Kingman.

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 4>It's Tommy reacting and getting worked up into a ladder

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.720
<v Speaker 4>because Kurt Bovaqua, who was a player for the Padres

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 4>at the time, called him a fat little Italian and

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:20.879
<v Speaker 4>the writer said, what do you think about that? And

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 4>that led to this, let's take a listen.

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.879
<v Speaker 14>I have never, ever since I had managed, ever told

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 14>the picture to throw it anybody, nor will I ever

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 14>And if I ever did, I certainly wouldn't make him

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 14>throw at a fucking one hundred and thirty hitter like

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 14>Lefe or fucking Bovaqua, who could hit water if he

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 14>fell out of a fucking boat.

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 5>And I guarant fucking te you this.

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 14>When I pitched and I was going to pitch against

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 14>a fucking team that had guys on it like the Baqua,

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 14>I sent a fucking limousine to get the cocksucker to

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 14>make sure he was in the motherfucking lineup because I

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 14>kicked that cocksucker's add any fucking day a week is

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 14>a fucking motherfucking big mouth. I'll tell you that.

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 4>Uh alright, there's Tommy Lasorda the SORTA late edition, but

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<v Speaker 4>lee Ilia is still number one.

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<v Speaker 1>You can put the Sorta number two if you want.

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<v Speaker 4>Bad job by me, But there's a different subcategory with

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<v Speaker 4>the Sorda ants So there it is, Big Ben's Big Board,

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<v Speaker 4>the greatest coaching meltdowns in US sports history. And again,

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<v Speaker 4>if we missed one, hit me up, let me hear

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<v Speaker 4>you until next time and we'll have new podcasts all weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>Enjoy the rest of your day today and we got

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<v Speaker 4>you covered with Danny G and Me all weekend long later.

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<v Speaker 1>Skater, kiss my asta pasta, got a murder.

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<v Speaker 8>I gotta go.