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Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast. Let's Die John,

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian, God, do you want a podcast?

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Speaker 1: They have some audio on your website that nobody goes to.

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Speaker 3: two forty three, I think at the Antiki Florian Podcast

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Speaker 3: cody is brought to the table over the first week

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Speaker 3: of our partnership. How are you holding up right? I

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Speaker 3: mean so obviously your daughter what is just having turned

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Speaker 3: two last dust? Is that correct?

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Speaker 5: Exactly?

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Speaker 3: So what are your days hold? Are you sick of

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Speaker 3: playing with toys? I'm on day eighteen, and day eighteen

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Speaker 3: at least through this half day has been the world

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Speaker 3: we've had behaviorally, so not in a great place here

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Speaker 3: sitting in front of you today.

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Speaker 5: Dude, I'm lucky.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's only so much that you know, my

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Speaker 5: She's she's pretty chill at this point.

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Speaker 4: Still, we try to get her out to walk around

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Speaker 4: and investigate the neighborhood a little bit. Well, I'll getting

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Speaker 4: too close to other people, so we try to make

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Speaker 4: it like a little adventure. She gets to go around,

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Speaker 4: touch things and hang out and we talk about different things,

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Speaker 4: I'm way worse. I have way less patience than her,

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Speaker 4: Like I'm worse than a two year old. It's it's

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Speaker 3: I'm like biting a hole through my lips some days.

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Speaker 3: It is interesting, though, because I think my daughters are

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Speaker 3: in our lap this morning, Ken Flow, and certainly unfortunate

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Speaker 3: for Kabib Nirmago Medov if indeed he is not able

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Speaker 3: So he did an Instagram live chat and this is

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Speaker 3: what Kabib had to say about the fight with Tony Ferguson.

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Speaker 3: We were training at Aka without any information regarding the fight,

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Speaker 3: he went on to say he's even hearing that they're

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Speaker 3: really know what's going on. Last quote, it's really hard

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Speaker 3: guys making fifteen grand to show right. But for Kabib

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Speaker 3: Normago Medov, all indications are that this fight is not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, this is a tricky one because you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know where the communication, you know, went bad. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: But I just wonder about those things. You know, to

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Speaker 4: it is probably an overstatement, right You can't say you're

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Speaker 4: ninety nine percent sure it's gonna be in this country

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think it would have been better off to have

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Speaker 4: Habib just stay where he is, don't give him any

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Speaker 4: in the United Arab Emirates, why wouldn't you just keep

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Speaker 4: Habib here just in case, as opposed to sending him,

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Speaker 5: But what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 4: Things are crazy right now again, and it looks like

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Speaker 5: You know, It's it's simple, John, You're just gonna make

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Speaker 5: it to happen for the sixth time. That's that's what

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Speaker 3: I I don't even know how to how to handle

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Speaker 3: that right there, but yes, you absolutely that this fight

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Speaker 3: It's that important to me as a sports fan. Forget

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Speaker 5: Uh So.

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Speaker 3: ESPN has reported that Justin Gaichie was offered the Ferguson fight.

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Speaker 3: Ferguson was offered the Justin Gaichie fight. Let's not lose

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Speaker 3: sight of that. Both sides have to accept it, and

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Speaker 3: there are some crazy circumstances that both are dealing with,

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Speaker 3: uh not, the least of which is the coronavirus. More

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Speaker 3: MMA world. Let's get to Ray Longo.

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Speaker 1: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minutes, and I.

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Speaker 3: Got a punch a hole in this That's what I want.

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Speaker 1: The Ray Long minute during the John Annik and Kenny

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Speaker 3: Or a Mosfeedal has tweeted that he wants to fight

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Speaker 3: on April eighteenth or is available. Dustin Pourier has thrown

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Speaker 3: his name into the hat. Tyrant Woodley had some comments

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Speaker 3: out there me versus Colby coming to April eighteenth unless

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Speaker 3: Tony want to roll it back up to his ultimate

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Speaker 3: no cheese out his lightweight macaroni. So Ray Long now

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Speaker 3: joins us live from what is really the epicenter of

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Speaker 3: the coronavirus in the United States of America. You're in where?

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Speaker 3: What town in New York are you in right now?

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Speaker 3: Or do you you like to keep that a secret

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Speaker 3: so the MMA fans don't show up at your door step.

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Speaker 6: I'm in the say Acid Long Island. All right, All good,

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you what I think. That's the difference. You

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Speaker 6: this point seems crazy because we have a major problem here.

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Speaker 6: So I get it. If you're not here and you're

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Speaker 6: not seeing the numbers like we're seeing. But I gotta

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Speaker 6: tell you, man, the only guy so far at sandaling

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Speaker 6: this thing right to me is Steve A mio chick.

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Speaker 6: I don't even want to talk about a fight. He's

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Speaker 6: got things to do it his biggest things in fighting,

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Speaker 6: and I'm you know, we're start I'm starting to hear

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Speaker 6: But you know, with that being said, that fight definitely

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Speaker 6: what a turn of events that was.

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Speaker 3: Well, this guy, Paul Rowe Gooseman twenty four to seven

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Speaker 3: wrote to me on social media. Not a fan of mine, incidentally,

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Speaker 3: it's nice that you think of other people by asking

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Speaker 3: them to suppress their immune system by cutting weight just

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Speaker 3: so you can call a fucking fight during a global pandemic.

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Speaker 3: I'm not asking these guys to cut weight. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's not my decision. I'm not the promoter I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about going out to call a fight. Ray, But I agree,

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Speaker 3: if you're not dealing with this intimately in your market

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Speaker 3: gravity of it. So yeah, certainly, if I was a promoter,

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Speaker 3: it's easy for me to say, I would hit the

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Speaker 3: pause button. I don't know the ramifications, what's going on

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Speaker 3: in those UFC offices, but Ray, it's it's really a

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Speaker 3: difficult thing. And from a fight game lens, it sounds

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Speaker 3: like you would just like to see cooler heads prevailing them.

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Speaker 3: Shut the whole thing down right now?

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Speaker 6: Well at this point, yeah, I mean, because even I

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Speaker 6: I got called by Newsday the other day, and it

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Speaker 6: just sucks. I don't want to see any of my

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Speaker 6: guys have to fight compromised, you know.

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Speaker 7: What I mean.

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Speaker 6: And New York is I believe it's a different animal.

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Speaker 6: And I guess California's in the same boat too, But

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Speaker 6: you know, it's it's like this, man, I don't care

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Speaker 6: where to fight is. I don't think you want guys

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Speaker 6: I mean, how about this, John, how about we don't

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Speaker 6: have a problem in America right now? There's no problem

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Speaker 6: in the US. But Italy wants to put on his

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Speaker 6: that sound crazy. There's ten thousand deaths over there right right,

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Speaker 6: So I don't.

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Speaker 8: I mean New York.

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Speaker 6: No, no, nothing at all. I'm almost with him. It's

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Speaker 3: Ken, he go ahead, Well, he said, I saw these

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Speaker 4: And I think you can only contain that for so

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Speaker 6: Aaron Hernandez documentary, which just blows my mind. Yeah, this

435
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Speaker 6: guy was able to have such an outstanding year while

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Speaker 6: he was behaving. The way he was to me is

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Speaker 6: mind boggling, It really is. So that's a really good point,

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Speaker 6: and I do believe you know that it is real

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Speaker 6: and that uh yeah, there's certain parts of your brain.

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Speaker 6: It's like, go, if it could make your behave in

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Speaker 6: in an inappropriate way, that's that's I wasn't even going

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Speaker 6: that way with him, but that's that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't my question, but I brought it here, not

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Speaker 3: by design necessarily. Just a couple more things ray before

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Speaker 3: we let you get back to it. How you how

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Speaker 3: you run and clock during these long days? By the way,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know you working out, I know you're

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Speaker 3: getting the toxins out, but how are you running clock?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? No, you know, as weird as it sounds, I

450
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Speaker 6: mean the days are going they're not going that slow.

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Speaker 6: But uh, I mean so you know, I'll work out

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Speaker 6: for a couple hours and then uh, last week doing life.

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Speaker 3: What was that I just said, Wow, two hours sounds

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Speaker 3: like four times as long as my workout. I'm sorry

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Speaker 3: to interrupt.

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Speaker 6: Yeah no, no, but by the time you get done

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Speaker 6: stretching everything, now I got the time to do it right,

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Speaker 6: So so it's better but uh, you know, in a

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Speaker 6: couple of days last week, I did some FaceTime lessons

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Speaker 6: we all facetimed each other. We just put him through

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Speaker 6: some drills. So that takes about an hour or two,

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Speaker 6: you know, uh, you know, getting myself sick watching uh

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Speaker 6: you know, Fox News and CNN and listening to all

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Speaker 6: the crap, staying on top of that, and just basically

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Speaker 6: making phone calls and calling people I haven't told in

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Speaker 6: a while, just making sure they're doing well and catching

468
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Speaker 6: up on some stuff I should have been doing a

469
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Speaker 6: long time ago. It's almost a blessing in disguise for me.

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Speaker 6: Outside of all the other economical ramifications, a lot of

471
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Speaker 6: like Kenny said, you got to look deep down, you

472
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Speaker 6: got to reflect a lot. I mean, I would say

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Speaker 6: this would be a disaster for anybody that was in

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Speaker 6: a shitty relationship and I was trapped in the same

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Speaker 6: house with that person.

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Speaker 3: I can't be good, No, no, very trapped right now. No,

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Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. I have a great.

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Speaker 6: Again. It's a lot of you know, it's just you know,

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Speaker 6: fortunately I know a lot of people, so I could

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Speaker 6: spend you know, ten hours on the phone today, so uh,

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Speaker 6: you know, try to try to do things like that,

482
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Speaker 6: you know, read up on stuff that I like to

483
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Speaker 6: do and all that type of stuff. But it's not

484
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Speaker 6: it's not that bad. I think I could last another

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Speaker 6: before I lose my shit completely.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean this actually does dovetail with a lot

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Speaker 3: of my personality. As I was saying off the top,

488
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Speaker 3: I don't mind some downtime and some non social times.

489
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Speaker 3: So in terms of this fight, right, and I know

490
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Speaker 3: all of us don't really want to talk fights per

491
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Speaker 3: se and cringe at the thought of these fighters going

492
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Speaker 3: through the medical process and weightcutting process right now. But

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Speaker 3: UFC two forty nine is scheduled to happen, you know,

494
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Speaker 3: and it's less than three weeks from now, and Justin

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Speaker 3: Gaichee reportedly has been offered the fight. I know, Ray,

496
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Speaker 3: we're all disappointed that Kabib Tony is not going to

497
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Speaker 3: be going down. How do you feel about the stakes

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Speaker 3: in all of this, right, because even you know, Matt

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Speaker 3: Fravola's got stakes, right, He's got goals, whether it's to

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Speaker 3: fight three times this year to get one in, to

501
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Speaker 3: get a win and another win and spin this thing forward.

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Speaker 3: But if you're justin Gaichee, his teammate from East and

503
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Speaker 3: mooy Thai and Elevation Fight Team. Sean Madden just tweeted

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Speaker 3: me that Gaateche's been in the gym. Maybe this fight's

505
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Speaker 3: been on his radar for weeks, but I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: Given the stakes for Geisha, I think it's really tough

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Speaker 3: to fight Tony Ferguson here in less than twenty days.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah.

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Speaker 6: Plus, look the fight. I wanted the fight.

511
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Speaker 5: I want to see it.

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Speaker 6: I think everybody wants to see is kad Be, even Ferguson,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean? And I like Gaichie. I

514
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Speaker 6: would never want to see him not get a paycheck.

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Speaker 6: But I don't want to see that fight right now.

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Speaker 6: That's the fight I want to see is Ferguson and Kabeth.

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Speaker 6: You know, that's that's the fight. I think Ferguson should

518
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Speaker 6: wait for that fight, even if it's postponed a month,

519
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Speaker 6: and they could get that fight off. I think it's

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Speaker 6: worth it for him to wait. But I'm sure that

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Speaker 6: the UFC had called a bunch of people and said, listen,

522
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Speaker 6: we don't know what's going on. Get ready, you know

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Speaker 6: anybody in that weight class be ready in case we

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Speaker 6: need a replacement. But I'm not sure that's what the

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Speaker 6: people want to see, you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 6: think every the build up and even you know, the

527
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Speaker 6: build up to this fight is unbelievable. Plus the fact

528
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Speaker 6: that it was going to happen during a pandemic, which

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Speaker 6: if they could pull that off, it's a miracle. That

530
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Speaker 6: added some more craziness to the fight. You know, it

531
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Speaker 6: just made it more crazy that you wanted to see it. Now,

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I think it's a I think it's

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Speaker 6: a problem, but I really wanted to see ferguson Kabeb

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Speaker 6: And as much as I think it would be a

535
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Speaker 6: good fight, I don't. I don't want to see the fight.

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Speaker 6: They had nothing to do with with Justin or the

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Speaker 6: other guy. I just think I was so dialed into

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Speaker 6: that fight that that's the fight I wanted to see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I would agree with Ray, it's a

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Speaker 4: fight that I think everyone wants to see. Unfortunately, that

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Speaker 4: that's not going to happen no matter what, and then

542
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Speaker 4: delaying it, who knows when that fight could happen. The

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Speaker 4: UFC is committed to putting on fights that that is clear,

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Speaker 4: no matter what and if they're gonna make it happen,

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Speaker 4: and it's a fight that really doesn't have implications of,

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Speaker 4: you know, actually being the champion. Habib has the belt,

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Speaker 4: why not make if you're gonna make it happen, make

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Speaker 4: it one hundred and sixty five pounds or something where

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Speaker 4: these guys are gonna at least be in a safer

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Speaker 4: position to compete. I think that makes more sense than

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Speaker 6: I agree, I totally agree.

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Speaker 2: The only time ever. Yeah, that to you. You know,

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Speaker 9: I think it was like you know Pettis and what that.

650
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 9: Uh yeah, every time you must think I will racing

651
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 9: alcohol about you. That makes me drink to him sad.

652
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 4: I think it's clear. It's clear I bring out the

653
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 4: worst of people. I think that's what it's.

654
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 7: Going to say.

655
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 5: And I have that effect.

656
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I can see Bonner making you want to

657
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: consume great amounts of alcohol. Kenfo is just a nice guy.

658
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was. You know, I'm still bitter about

659
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: that little tough dinner thing too. It was I feel

660
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: like it was ruined for me at the start. You know,

661
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: I was like, this could be cool, this could be fun.

662
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: I get there.

663
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 10: I'm like.

664
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: The same for people with their assholes back then.

665
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: So that was the recent reunion, right when was that?

666
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: It was probably over a year ago now.

667
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, it was interesting. It was interesting. Yeah, it

668
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 5: was cool. It was cool.

669
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 4: See you though, Man, it was good to hang, hang

670
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 4: out and reconnect.

671
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 7: It was cool.

672
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for the brief period of time I

673
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: was still functioning. Yeah. So night my uber driver texted

674
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: the next morning, you're right, bro, I was like, can

675
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: I tip you?

676
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: You gotta not be Forrest Griffin in the Uber right,

677
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: see Daniel Cormier switches it up, right. You gotta be

678
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: like Frank Griffin so.

679
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: That it's all good.

680
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you tweeted a few days ago. It might

681
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: be a couple of weeks ago.

682
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 5: Things.

683
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: The coronavirus has made me realize I've never wash my thumbs.

684
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 3: You know, you've never washed your thumbs like never, which

685
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: I can agree with that being a teacher is really hard.

686
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: My house is really small, and my wife and I

687
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: together are smart enough to be a second grade teacher.

688
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely true. I was like, I was like, I felt

689
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: like rain Man. I was like, I know this based geometry.

690
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: I'm too, I don't. I know that. I felt great

691
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: about myself until she got to like, uh, what was

692
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: it when you say like he or she? I don't know,

693
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: I've already forgotten what it was like a past possessive

694
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: pronoun or something. Then over there, I don't know what

695
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: this is right, I got it wrong.

696
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: Nothing nothing easy about it. So uh so the u

697
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: f c P I obviously has closed down for all

698
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: intents and purposes. And I got to believe I don't

699
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: think anyone overall has done more work out within those

700
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: walls then you. I feel like you had probably worked

701
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: out there hundreds of times before a lot of these

702
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: fighters made it their training homes. So how has that

703
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: separation been for you? I know you're getting it in

704
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: at home, but uh, for you, this can't be easy.

705
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: It's been rough, and you know, I'm regretting not taking

706
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: a way best. And some power blocks, like I should

707
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: have just taken some stuff, like nobody.

708
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 5: Needs it there, No, it's using it.

709
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's just getting cleaned repeatedly. Then you

710
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: know it's like I should have I should have taken

711
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: that stuff. I'm actually having a friend go in because

712
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: they have to get some equipment for local fighters to

713
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: drop off their houses. Oh wow, I'm gonna have them picking.

714
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 9: Up like way best and maybe some extra little dumbbells

715
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 9: and stuff. And I'm gonna do like I'm gonna buy

716
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 9: some more dumbells of the target, like you know where

717
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 9: you drive up and they put the stuff in your

718
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 9: groceries and your car.

719
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 4: Oh man, So what is Forrest doing to pass the time?

720
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 4: Is it just workouts all day?

721
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 5: What do you do?

722
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: So we have a ton you know, you remember the

723
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: first journal that came out out, right, Yeah, we have

724
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: a second journal, year three journal, and you know we

725
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 2: have an academy class in China, right, So they're taking

726
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: a lot of the learnings from that academy class and

727
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: the load management and the structure that camp and the

728
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 2: skill acquisiition portions of it, and we're trying to turn

729
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: it into part of the Journal three, Right, so like,

730
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 2: you know, kind of what I want, and I want

731
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: these geniuses around me to figure is I want a template.

732
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: And then I want Kenny Florian to be able to

733
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: evaluate Kenny fluory in and say, I have my JITs

734
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: is good, my wrestling's okay, my striking is pretty good.

735
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 2: These are the aspects I want to work on. These

736
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: are how I can structure my practices to get the

737
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: most out of it. These are how many times I

738
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: have to work a new skill to develop that skill.

739
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: These are how many times I have to work a

740
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: skill I already have to maintain that skill.

741
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 7: Right.

742
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: So it's hard because you have so many different disciplines

743
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: in mma. Right, you have to keep the the sharp

744
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: knives you have well at the same time you have

745
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: to build, you know, new weapons and sharpen them. Right,

746
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: So how do you do that? A great example, you

747
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: remember Alex Schoenhower, all the decent striker, got knocked out

748
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: by switch. He spent six months working on his wrestling

749
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: and jiu jitsu because he was really weak at that

750
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: He didn't really worry too much about the striking because

751
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I'm substantially better than that.

752
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: And then when he got out there immediately got knocked

753
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: out because he didn't one game plan for his opponent

754
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 2: who was a striker with quick fans, and then two

755
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: he kind of let that skill get get sloppy, get

756
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: done because he was working so much. He was working

757
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: so hard. I felt bad because he'd been doing so

758
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: much wrestling and grappling, and then he gets knocked out

759
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: in like the first round. You're like, yeah, yeah, we

760
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: didn't do a ton of striking.

761
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 3: People talk about wrestling maintenance just being a brutal part

762
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 3: of the sport, right, Truly, high level guy's trying to

763
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: maintain that skill.

764
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: You know, and and maybe you can guys can attest

765
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: to this. I've seen a lot of great wrestlers and

766
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: they don't wrestle that much in MMA practice.

767
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 9: They wrestled just enough to vaytate it. But they're not

768
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 9: looking they're not lucky to go back to college. You've

769
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 9: had two hour grind in three times a week. They're

770
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 9: not looking for that. They're like, I've got my hour

771
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 9: and we're gonna drill a little bit, call it a day.

772
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: So anyone who has seen you work out even now

773
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 3: on the StairMaster, I mean cardio king, the way you'd

774
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: attack a weight cut in your career, we never had

775
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: to worry about you. But what would your thoughts be

776
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 3: on time? But yeah, yeah, but what what?

777
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 5: What?

778
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 3: What would your thoughts be on trying to make weight,

779
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 3: never mind compete given this coronavirus backdrop without able bodies

780
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: potentially to work with. What do you feel like the

781
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: athletes are going through right now?

782
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: So the weight, the weight, it's really about that's controllable, right.

783
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: It's hard in the setting because your routine's broken. But

784
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: you can set a routine like I've done my workout

785
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: every day at nine o'clock, ten o'clock and start working

786
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: or you know, sometime eight, right, so I'm still on

787
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: a routine. Like for the weight, you don't really have

788
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: an excuse. That's what you're putting in your body. You

789
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: you can alter it and tailor it because it's hard

790
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: to get fresh foods right now. But it's the actual

791
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: skill where you might work with three, four or five

792
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: people right now. Guys are working with one or two

793
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: safe buddies, right so you've got a group of three

794
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: and it's like these are as many people as you

795
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: really should feel comfortable being around. So I feel like

796
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: it's the skilled maintenance portion of it's. It's more, you know,

797
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: hard at this point. One thing I'll say, Tony Ferguson

798
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: doesn't his trading is so unorthodized all the time. I

799
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: don't know that the quarantine has affected him.

800
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 9: Yeah right, He's like he's got his guy coming over

801
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 9: the whole of it.

802
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: He's kicked it steel.

803
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 4: He's you know, double double legging cars going down the road. Tony,

804
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 4: you might not want Okay, that's fine, you did it, Okay,

805
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 4: that's yeah.

806
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: Hey, I just don't like the driver. Breathe on you, brother,

807
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Yeah.

808
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: So have you watched this Tiger King documentary on?

809
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 7: I have not.

810
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 9: You know, I'm pretty I'm pretty good at not following

811
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 9: the I mean I'm familiar with it, I get it.

812
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: I'm just pretty good at not following whatever. I'm just

813
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: a contrarian Timmy Kim to test that. I'm just it's

814
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: just whatever it is that like cool people are doing.

815
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: I can't do it. I mean, I'm interested, but I'm like, man,

816
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: i'd rather watch crappy sci fi or just watch fights.

817
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: I agree, actually on both of those, I'm way behind.

818
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: If people ask me, oh, have you seen this movie

819
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: or Nextflix show. It's usually no our. One of our

820
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: producers actually gave us homework to watch Tiger King before

821
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 3: the show today. I've been deeply disturbed thus far, but

822
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 3: I think you'd find some value in it. It's actually

823
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: non fiction somehow.

824
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like fiction man. So the only time

825
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: I watch TV right is ninety minutes before beat. So

826
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: I watch about an hour two the day. Well outside

827
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: of like work TV fighting and fight stuff. I watched that.

828
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: I count that as work, not screen time.

829
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do too, Yeah, not screen time.

830
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: That's great time. It's that's great time. I'm not I'm

831
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: doing work. Do you watch it? I'm doing work. But

832
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: so you know, I don't want reality. I want like

833
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: some nonsense from another planet. It's just you know, you

834
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like I don't my wife, you know,

835
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: I have to, like we alternate nights of TV. So

836
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 2: then I have to watch shows like A Million Little

837
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: Things and this is us and I have to watch

838
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 2: shows like that and you know, the crappy sci fi

839
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: or whatever, you know, weird serial killer show that I found.

840
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 2: Here's a here's a Swedish Norwegian serial killer show.

841
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 9: This is gonna be great.

842
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, you gave me a good idea though,

843
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 3: you switch off nights and then she would have no

844
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: choice but to watch the garbage that I want to watch.

845
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: So in terms of all these fights, right, like, and

846
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: I know, I don't know if you're the biggest football

847
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: fan in the world growing up in Georgia. I mean,

848
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: were you a Falcons fan of.

849
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: Huge Huge the dirty Birds? Come on?

850
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, okay too legit to right, all right?

851
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: So different?

852
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 3: But yeah, so I have said that I feel like

853
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 3: this Ibnrmago Mata Tony Ferguson fight is perhaps the biggest

854
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: singular fight in UFC history because of where this division

855
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: is and where these two athletes are. So for me,

856
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 3: it feels like a super Bowl, if not bigger. I

857
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 3: feel like it's the most anticipated fight competitively divisionally of

858
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 3: my lifetime. And now it doesn't look like take five

859
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 3: is going to happen. And I mean, can you believe it?

860
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: Even more than that? It's it's that we've been promised

861
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: this fight for so long. Like I saw the stats

862
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: this morning on you know Israel I assigned to you

863
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: the champ was two years away from even fighting in

864
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: the UFC the first time they were lined up, Like

865
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: Ronda Rossi was still champion the first time they ever

866
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: lined up. Dud was championed first time, right right, you know,

867
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: you showed all these crazy stats and I was like,

868
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you know, like Portier was at one

869
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: forty five or something. You know, it's like insane, Like

870
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 2: its just wow. I mean, you know, at this point,

871
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: it's like its own story of the curse. You know,

872
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: it's really like we'll find a way you're both healthy.

873
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: Global pandemic. It's crazy, right.

874
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 4: I think the probably, I think we next time we

875
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 4: set it up for the eleventeenth time. Whenever we do,

876
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 4: we can't have them sign the contract until like they're

877
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,959
Speaker 4: about to walk out to the octagon. That's the only way.

878
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 4: And even then that there's probably something will happen.

879
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 2: Somebody at work when we watched some of the press conference,

880
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 2: you know, back when the world was still going, said

881
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: just have to fight now, like let's see this kind

882
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: of events. Just make that debate.

883
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 9: Events, give them like a Ted Todd way to allow

884
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 9: it's the guys, don't worry about the cuts, don't worry

885
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 9: about that, just fight this weekend.

886
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 2: We got you both let's do it.

887
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 3: Well, one big variable that they're up against here is Ramadad.

888
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: I mean they are athletes like Bulah Mohammad that are

889
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: more than willing to train and compete through it. And

890
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 3: obviously he's not an undisputed champion, so maybe he can't

891
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 3: call every shot. But April twenty third, I think is

892
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 3: the date for Kabib, So there wasn't really people say, oh,

893
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 3: push the fight back to May fifteenth. That wasn't really

894
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: going to be an option for Kabib. So if you're

895
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: justin Gaichie, I don't.

896
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: That I didn't factor that in. That's a great catch, yeah,

897
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 2: because Ramadin's tough one because it moves, you know, it's

898
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: always different, So I'm always confused, like 's in September.

899
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, So in terms of justin Gaechee, reports are

900
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 3: that he was in the gym, I mean you got

901
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: to think that he was the guy if either one

902
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 3: of these fighters pulled out. I mean, do you think

903
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 3: he was training for that date? But do you think

904
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,479
Speaker 3: he was training for that date?

905
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: No, no, doubtful. And I read a thing about he

906
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: doesn't usually take fights on short notice, but you want

907
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: to be champed sometimes you got to take fight at

908
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: short notice. You know, everybody, we've all taken fights on

909
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: short notice. You know, it is what it is is

910
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: talking about taking to fight. I'm like, didn't you just

911
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: have like surgery? Like i'mbout saying like I'm not, you know,

912
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: like you have like surgery? Are you comed? Are you

913
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: like post op? Are you like just cleared the train?

914
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: And me, Ma, now like what are you doing?

915
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 9: I think I don't care.

916
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: I'll fight, yeah.

917
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of these guys feels like

918
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 3: feel like it's good business to throw their name in

919
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 3: the hat, especially Gilbert.

920
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: Burns kind of scenario, you gotta fight, I'll fight. It

921
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: was was cowboys started it, and then guys like Gilbert

922
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: and Vin say Luke, they've been like, okay, whatever. If

923
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 2: I just train, And that's another thing about training load.

924
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: If I just train consistently like a normal human being

925
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: with progressive overload, I can train a lot, stay in

926
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: good shape, keep my weight relatively close, and I can

927
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: stay three or weeks out from a fight and then

928
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: just put the last little taper and cut in without

929
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 2: destroying myself for a camp. So sometimes personally I fought

930
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: better when I didn't have much of a training camp

931
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: because I couldn't destroy myself as much like I just

932
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: got concentrated on making his way and getting a little

933
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: bit of conditioning. I can't you know, you can't overthink it.

934
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: But so so Kenlo's jiu Jitsu school in Los Angeles

935
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: is closed indefinitely. I mean, if you thought about what

936
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: it's going to be like walking back into that UFCP, I,

937
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: I mean, are you giving the now father of two

938
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 3: James Kimball like a big hugger. Is he getting an

939
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 3: elbow now? I mean we're walking back into a whole

940
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: new world.

941
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 2: He's getting a nod. He's getting a nod. Yeah right,

942
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: I've always been a nod or anything.

943
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 4: You know.

944
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 9: That's the thing I'm known, like with my wife's friends

945
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 9: is an awkward hugger because it's not.

946
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: The thing I'm not. I don't like to hug women.

947
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,959
Speaker 2: I don't like to hug people in general. If if

948
00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: there's hug involved me, it's usually another guy and something amazing,

949
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: like a life altering moment has occurred.

950
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 10: Like.

951
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 9: There for like we we you know, we wanted beer

952
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 9: pong or something. That's that's when I'll hug another human being,

953
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 9: not or my daughter or my daughter and my wife.

954
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 9: But but I'm not like a big hugger, and so

955
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 9: I don't really I was anti shaking hands going through

956
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 9: my fight career. People thought I was a jerk. I

957
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 9: was just always a little bit overtrained, so my immune

958
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 9: system was a little bit depressed, and I always found

959
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 9: I would get sick every time I did an appearance.

960
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 9: I'd shake a thousand hands and then next thing, you know,

961
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 9: oh I'm sick.

962
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: That's shocking, you know. Yeah, so what you should have

963
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: told me how to wash my thumbs is what happened.

964
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: I don't how to wash my thumb. It's like getting sick.

965
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 3: So I was in the back of a car with

966
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: Forrest in twenty fifteen and telling him he needs to

967
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: start the Forrest Griffin Show. And here we are five

968
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 3: years later, and you're making the rounds a little bit

969
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 3: obviously this week, and we've got some downtime. But I mean,

970
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 3: can we get a Forrest Griffin show originating from the

971
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 3: UFCPI we're just looking for an hour a week.

972
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think so. No, I'm got you

973
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: guys are doing pretty good at it.

974
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got you.

975
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 9: Know, I'm very fortunate in that I have a job

976
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 9: and I want to play.

977
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: As much of a role in that as I can.

978
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: And you know, I've turned down a lot of a

979
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: lot of cool opportunities, you know, things I would have

980
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: liked to done. But but I remember, and ironically, this

981
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: was before I fought Anderson. This is like six or

982
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: seven weeks out going to like it was like somebody

983
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: huge at the time, the album release party, this or that.

984
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 2: You know, people want to take you out to dinner,

985
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: and I was like, Nope, can't do it. And that's

986
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: that's kind of like for me, that's how I have

987
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 2: to be in life, because I'm not a Tyron Woodley

988
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: where I can all right, hey, look, I only train

989
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: eighteen to twenty hours a week. What I do with

990
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: the other whether I'm watching Netflix or I'm at a party,

991
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: you know, mingling with high octane people whatever, that's that's

992
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 2: the choice you make. Whereas me, I was like, all right,

993
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: I gotta pull back. I got to just concentrate and

994
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: be kind of monastic about this goal. And that's how

995
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: I feel about the p I to an extent, you know,

996
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: like if I want to be in the UFC and

997
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: I want to do big things on this side of

998
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: the uh you know, of the of the sideline. I

999
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: have to kind of dedicate that to myself, and I like,

1000
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: I like getting on TV every now and again. It's fun.

1001
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 2: I you know, I had the Metro PCs show. I

1002
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: love that. That's right, that was great. Just just to

1003
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: keep just to keep yourself in front of the camera

1004
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: a little bit, you know. I'm sure you guys understand.

1005
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: You don't understand because you're both front the camera all the.

1006
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 9: Time, but it is it is, as they say, a

1007
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 9: perishable skill, right if you are not kind of getting

1008
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 9: in front of there, you get in front of you.

1009
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 2: Was I supposed to say, of course?

1010
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 9: For yeah, it's so like you guys will probably be

1011
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 9: like a little on the wrong.

1012
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 3: Foot, rusty, because now we're gonna have to shake that

1013
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: shit off. Yes, ever, yeah, no doubt. It will be

1014
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 3: the most time I haven't talked professionally in fifteen twenty years.

1015
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 9: You're absolutely right, what if what if you guys aren't

1016
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 9: even there when they fight, like if they're able to

1017
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 9: put it together, do it in the apex.

1018
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: And you're just like in some studio down the street,

1019
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 2: you know, able to commentate the fight. That would be cool.

1020
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 3: So when I was at ESPN, the WBC Heavyweight Championship

1021
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: fight between Vitali Klitschko and Shannon Braggs was happening in

1022
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 3: Germany and I was in Bristol, Connecticut with BJ Flores

1023
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: calling that fight in front of a green screen. So

1024
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 3: it absolutely can be done.

1025
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: That's awesome. What time was that? That was like a

1026
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 2: weird time.

1027
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a weird time for us and I'm

1028
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 3: sure prime time for them. And then it aired tape

1029
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 3: the Laid on ESPN, Hey before We Let you Go,

1030
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 3: and it's sort of dovetails with the UFCPI stuff. So

1031
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 3: this July, God Willing, the first annual Force CRIFFT Community

1032
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: Service is going to be handed out courtesy of Toyot Tires.

1033
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 3: And this is a big deal. You know, I told

1034
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 3: eighteen year old Forrest Griffin that he would become a

1035
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: beacon of the Las Vegas community, and you have become that.

1036
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 3: You probably would have laughed in my face. This has

1037
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 3: to be pretty exciting to have this type of service

1038
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 3: award in your honor in your neck.

1039
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 9: Well, I've been like Las Vegas. How'd I end up

1040
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 9: in Las Vegas? Bad Choices? Dead but Las Vegas, I know,

1041
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 9: I know, you know, this is home, is where I

1042
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 9: met my wife. For me, this is you know, this

1043
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 9: is probably what I'll spend the rest of my life.

1044
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 9: You know, that's crazy to think, right. I love this place,

1045
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 9: so anything I can do locally, And you got to think,

1046
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 9: when I was first hired at the UFC, it was

1047
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 9: community outreach. That's what I was going to do. And

1048
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 9: what kind of happened is I got involved with some stuff.

1049
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 9: When I was fighting, I had a little bit of

1050
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 9: you know, cloud name recognition. I was able to throw

1051
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 9: it behind some people. You know, I was able to

1052
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 9: tie a little bit and make some donations. And then

1053
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 9: right after that, I was on these boards, you know,

1054
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 9: and then I removed myself from a couple of the boards.

1055
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 9: I'm still on the three square board, but I removed

1056
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 9: myself from a couple of the boards.

1057
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: But people still would reach out. So I became kind

1058
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 2: of like a matchmaker, right, like, all right, I got

1059
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: a guy and then you know, our buddy Alex Caro

1060
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 2: Lynx has gotten the service business right, and I was

1061
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,479
Speaker 2: able to help him with the Home for Heroes, Jared

1062
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: Allen's Home for Heroes. So you know, just any fighter

1063
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 2: that has like a good cause or something, I'm able

1064
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: to help them and get to UFC to magnify that

1065
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: a little bit. And that is that is pretty awesome, man,

1066
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: It really is.

1067
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 3: You've made quite the imprint. You really have. And I

1068
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 3: don't want to bring up the Falcons on the way out,

1069
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 3: but I'd be remiss if I didn't ask in terms

1070
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 3: of the hugging, right, I mean, the Falcons are up

1071
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: twenty eight to three in a Super Bowl. I mean,

1072
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 3: are you hugging yet or are you waiting for them

1073
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 3: to close the show?

1074
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: That is the funniest story. We'll end on this. I

1075
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: was I was at a party. I hosted a party

1076
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 2: because I knew it, so I hosted a Super Bowl party.

1077
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 2: My wife wasn't feeling good, so I go home to

1078
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 2: take care of our daughter. At halftime, my mom starts

1079
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: to texting me, and my mom doesn't text, like what's

1080
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 2: going on? Like why is the ball? Like like confused

1081
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: with the rules, Like what's going on? And I thought,

1082
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: like I drove forty minutes. I get home and I

1083
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: thought they'd won the Super Bowl And people are like, no,

1084
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: it's still on, Turn it on, turn it on, and

1085
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: they're like they lose, and I was just I mean,

1086
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: I was. I don't even like sport. It's so weird, right,

1087
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: the power of sports. I don't even know those people.

1088
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: I haven't lived there for twelve years, thirteen years, and

1089
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 2: here I am, like my day was ruined. Oh yeah,

1090
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: I was like I was just angry, so angry that

1091
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 2: blew it.

1092
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 9: You know, I was like mad at people. I don't

1093
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 9: know why am I mad at these football players? You know, like, like,

1094
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 9: do I think that they didn't want to win? Like

1095
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 9: they wanted to win that game?

1096
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: All right?

1097
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 3: They didn't blow it on purpose than you.

1098
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm mad at that all right.

1099
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 3: Well, the Hall of Famer in every sense of Hall

1100
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 3: of Famer Griffin, appreciate your time, man, you know, don't

1101
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 3: be a stranger. You know, when we did our one

1102
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 3: hundredth episode, you may recall you were our featured guests

1103
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 3: that day because it was a big show for us.

1104
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 3: I can't believe it's taking this long to have you

1105
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 3: back on, but we appreciate the time. I know Ken

1106
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 3: Full loves having you back at Lea.

1107
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, the man Forrest.

1108
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 2: All right, guys, love you guys, Take care man, say

1109
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: everybody peace.

1110
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: There he is Forrest Griffin. Always good to catch up

1111
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 3: with the ultimate fighter one veteran Ken Flow, two thousand

1112
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 3: and five. You remember your first impression when you when

1113
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 3: you saw Forrest Cauliflower ear was still omnipressant back then.

1114
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1115
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 4: Absolutely, he was an absolute maniac, one of the funniest

1116
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 4: guys you ever meet. And it's amazing to see what

1117
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 4: he's done with his career. A guy who was pretty

1118
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 4: certain he was going to go back and be, you know,

1119
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 4: continue as a police officer after the show, and obviously

1120
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 4: it didn't turn out that way. Became a legendary fighter

1121
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 4: in the UFC, and he deserves all of his success.

1122
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 5: Man, it's awesome to see him.

1123
00:52:58,760 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: All right.

1124
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 3: We now bring Annie and Parker at Parker Cage, hero

1125
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 3: on social media and he has a tiger over his shoulder.

1126
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 3: We see the prop so Forest Griffin has not seen

1127
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: Tiger King. Cody Merrow, our chief marketing officer, told me

1128
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 3: and Ken Flow our homework before the show this week

1129
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 3: was to watch Tiger King. I know you have watched

1130
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 3: the season now twice over. I'm gonna start by saying

1131
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 3: this documentaries are not immune from being spoiled, so I'm

1132
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 3: like two or three episodes in, and the notion that

1133
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 3: you can't spoil a documentary upon further review is not accurate, Right,

1134
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 3: I know what happened to one of these central characters

1135
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: because of a tweet from Daniel Cormier. I don't want

1136
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 3: to know what happened to that central character, So, as

1137
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 3: far as I'm concerned, DC has spoiled it for me. Man,

1138
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 3: this is pretty disturbing through three episodes. Z And what

1139
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: can you tell us on the Tiger King from.

1140
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 7: Well?

1141
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 10: While I was on hold, I was jamming out to

1142
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 10: his hit single I Saw a Tiger really really gets

1143
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 10: me right here in the fields, you know, during this time,

1144
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 10: Joe Exotic is really getting me through this hardship. I

1145
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 10: gotta tell you it's obviously gonna be my Halloween costume

1146
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 10: this year and maybe the next year.

1147
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 7: Over which character did he rooin for you?

1148
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 10: Because honestly, like, this thing is so fucking crazy that

1149
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 10: there is so you're only in episode three, like and

1150
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 10: you're already kind of like, whoa this is?

1151
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 2: Not?

1152
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 10: It gets even crazier, Like it's not even close. You

1153
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 10: haven't even touched it crazy.

1154
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: Yet, Kenny. That's why I don't want to go too

1155
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 3: far down this rabbit hole because I don't want to

1156
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 3: spoil it for people. So if you have yet to

1157
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: see Tiger King, may want to start fast forwarding by

1158
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 3: like thirty seconds. I'm giving you, guys two minutes on

1159
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 3: Tiger King Ken Flow. I mean, the nineteen year old

1160
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 3: being brought into the marriage, and I mean, it's just

1161
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm deeply disturbed during a time where

1162
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 3: I'm already pretty disturbed.

1163
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 4: It's wild, dude, it is definitely wild, And just the

1164
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 4: characters in and around this scene. It's it's not only him,

1165
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 4: it's all these people that have cats in their stories

1166
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 4: and how weird they are, and just I don't know,

1167
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 4: It's a completely different world out there. And you know,

1168
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 4: we were talking about reality shows and how Forrest was

1169
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 4: telling us he'd prefer to watch science fiction. Reality is

1170
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 4: way weirder than science fiction in a lot of ways,

1171
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 4: especially something like this. And I'm on episode where I

1172
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 4: just finished episode five, so I think I have two

1173
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 4: more episodes.

1174
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 5: To go, and yeah, it's only getting weirder. Dude.

1175
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 10: You want to know what bothers me the most, though,

1176
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 10: is that this whole time, I could have got a

1177
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 10: fucking tiger.

1178
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 7: For two thousand dollars.

1179
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 10: And it bothers me that I'm I got two dogs

1180
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 10: that you know, they're just not as cool as Tiger

1181
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 10: walking around down the street like a three hundred pound

1182
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 10: just tiger.

1183
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 7: Like, oh, this is Bob. It's cool. Don't touch his tail,

1184
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 7: but he's friendly.

1185
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 10: You know, it's just crazy. You are.

1186
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 7: The characters are amazing.

1187
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: You are absolutely going to be Joe Exotic for Halloween,

1188
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 3: mean this year, and I kind of want to come

1189
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 3: trick or treating with you know, and over at the

1190
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 3: neighborhood of mansions over there in Parkland, Florida. And I'm sorry,

1191
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 3: but no, I want to come to Parkland. I want

1192
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 3: to trick or treat. I want to see you as

1193
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 3: Joe Exotic. I'm excited to talk about Tiger king in

1194
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 3: the head as we as we ingest more of it.

1195
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 3: But again, no spoilers out there. Daniel Cormier, you know,

1196
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, was he.

1197
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 5: Post who was posting outler his way?

1198
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 3: It's like not like Colby Covington bad, but it's like

1199
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 3: he goes out of his way. He basically said, oh

1200
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 3: this did or didn't happen to character X question Mark, Wow.

1201
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 10: Listen in his defense and I'm not the first one

1202
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 10: to defend DC in the situation. But this stuff's in

1203
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 10: the news too, you know, so like if someone were

1204
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 10: to google this, this is like current news.

1205
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 7: Also right now, which is wild. That's what's kind of

1206
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 7: crazy about this too.

1207
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: All right, all right, A lot of people think I

1208
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 3: should lay off DC.

1209
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 5: That's fine.

1210
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 7: Well no, I'm not saying that.

1211
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 10: You can lay it on all you want. He shouldn't

1212
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 10: have spoiled it, but it isn't the news.

1213
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 7: But you know, it's crazy.

1214
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 5: Ian.

1215
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 3: We talked to Ray Longo pretty extensively about the John

1216
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 3: Jones situation. I don't want to belabor the point too much,

1217
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 3: but what was your reaction last Thursday when that news

1218
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 3: came down the pipe?

1219
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 10: Well, when Ray spoke about this, had he just woken

1220
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 10: up or was it?

1221
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 7: Because I know that's a different Ray when he just

1222
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 7: rolls out of bed. I'd love to hear that one.

1223
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 10: But listen, you know my whole thing that I question

1224
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,959
Speaker 10: here with someone like him, you know, people keep saying, oh,

1225
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 10: he's got to get help. Yeah, but it's also really stupid,

1226
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 10: like we can't keep giving him this like get out

1227
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 10: a jail free card. No pun intended, because he's still

1228
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 10: kind of young and he's got mental issues. Yeah, but

1229
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 10: you know you would think with someone with a team

1230
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 10: around him. And I don't blame the management. I don't

1231
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 10: know who to place blame on. But guys like Lebron

1232
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 10: James that are the biggest names in their sport, with

1233
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 10: all the money and the accessibility to.

1234
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 7: Everything, they don't fuck up.

1235
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 10: They have people that drive them, Like how hard would

1236
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 10: it have been to pay one of his friends fifty

1237
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 10: thousand dollars for the year to be his turtle to

1238
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 10: his Vinnie Chase? You know, just something as simple as that.

1239
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 10: Why and how do you? I hate to laugh, but

1240
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 10: how do you do this when you're supposed to be

1241
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 10: on lockdown, you know, of all times to be out

1242
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 10: driving around and you know, popping the gun off. It's

1243
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 10: just it's sad. It sucks. We'll see where this really goes.

1244
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 7: It's just I just don't.

1245
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 10: Know how how many chances he's gonna really get and

1246
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 10: if this is really it, because this could be.

1247
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 7: Kenny and I were talking with this off the record.

1248
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 10: They're gonna test that bullet, the ballistics, and that gun

1249
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 10: may or may not be connected to a few other

1250
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 10: incidents in the area that they're looking at, and if

1251
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 10: that's the case, that's a whole different level of criminal activity,

1252
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 10: you know.

1253
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 3: So I do think, and again I'm not a defender here,

1254
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 3: I do think it's simplistic when a lot of people say, oh,

1255
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 3: just hire a driver for fifty K a year, because

1256
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 3: I do think John wants to just be able to

1257
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 3: go out and obviously you need to be sober when

1258
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 3: you do it, but he just wants to put his

1259
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: gun on the car and the desert and just go

1260
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 3: out and be a dick or whatever, you know. And

1261
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 3: I just think that, you know, in a global pandemic,

1262
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 3: I don't know that your driver's gonna be on call

1263
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 3: necessarily anyway. But I don't know. The whole thing is

1264
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 3: just is just sad. I got a tweet here can

1265
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 3: flow from Jonathan Ordoniez before we get back into the

1266
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 3: kabev stuff, running a gym during this global pandemic, strategies

1267
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 3: to get members back once everything is normal. I don't

1268
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 3: know if John Ordoniez has a gym of his own,

1269
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 3: and I'm sure you and Jason Hunt are probably thinking

1270
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 3: about a lot of these strategies. Right now as you're

1271
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 3: counting down the days until you open the doors to

1272
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 3: that beautiful gym, you.

1273
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 5: Know, thank you.

1274
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 4: You know, there's so much we don't know, and all

1275
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 4: we could do is continue to you know, keep the

1276
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 4: place as clean as possible and have the highest standards

1277
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 4: for cleanliness. And you know, know, whether it's the coronavirus

1278
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 4: or not, we we do not allow people to come

1279
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 4: into the gym if they're not feeling well because of

1280
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 4: those situations, and I don't know, man, you know, it's

1281
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 4: one of those things we're gonna have to battle back

1282
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 4: to get certain members back. And who knows when this

1283
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 4: is actually done and over with, because I'm sure after

1284
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 4: people have been given the go ahead to go back

1285
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 4: and go back to their normal routine, the coronavirus is

1286
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 4: still going to be out and about who knows when

1287
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 4: we're going to have an actual vaccine for something like that.

1288
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 4: So it is a little bit worrisome. We are concerned,

1289
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 4: and all we can do is do our best to

1290
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Speaker 4: run the business, you know, as we've been doing, perhaps

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Speaker 4: with some higher you know, cleaning standards.

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Speaker 5: And things like that.

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Speaker 4: But it's going to change the dynamic of a lot

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Speaker 4: of businesses out there, even I'm sure for people who

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Speaker 4: have been working from home. I think this whole thing

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Speaker 4: is going to change a lot of the ways that

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Speaker 4: the nature of business is conducted from here on out.

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Speaker 3: So Ian, I know there are people out there that

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Speaker 3: have a problem when we even talk fights or talk

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Speaker 3: about this fight happening on April eighteenth, But because it

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Speaker 3: is still scheduled to go down, and because Ivenmaco Metov

1302
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 3: is seemingly stuck in Russia, justin Gaegee's name has now

1303
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 3: been injected into this mix, I guess I'll just say

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Speaker 3: Tony Ferguson can't be competing for any more interim championships

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01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 3: right like this dude needs to fight for an undisputed

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Speaker 3: lightweight title, and the Gaichee fight obviously is not going

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Speaker 3: to be that. You know, as we sit here Monday afternoon,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that either guy has signed the And

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Speaker 3: unless something happened over the course of the last hour,

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Speaker 3: what do you think is the resolution and what do

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Speaker 3: you think happens or doesn't happen April eighteenth.

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Speaker 10: Man, I feel like our conversation last week shouldn't even

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Speaker 10: have existed at this point because I was so confident

1314
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Speaker 10: this was going to happen. But I should have known

1315
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Speaker 10: that it literally will take a fucking pandemic to keep

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Speaker 10: this fight from happening between Tony and Kabib Man. As

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Speaker 10: much as I want to see the violence of Tony

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Speaker 10: and Justin, I don't know what it does for Tony.

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Speaker 10: You know, to your point, the interim title doesn't make

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Speaker 10: sense unless you give him the undisputed because Kabib's going

1321
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 10: to be out because of Ramadan, you know, at some

1322
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 10: point soon anyway, so he'll he won't be able to

1323
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Speaker 10: fight until what is that October or November. You know,

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Speaker 10: at that point you either push this fight back, you know, Gaichie,

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Speaker 10: I remember there was an interview you have forgot who

1326
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 10: didn't so forgive me at the awards last year and

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Speaker 10: they offered him the fight with Tony in four weeks notice,

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Speaker 10: and he said, no, there's the bunch as I want

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Speaker 10: that opportunity. I just I can't do that to myself.

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Speaker 7: Tony. Is we talk about this season as Kenny City's

1331
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 7: a dark force.

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Speaker 10: You got you really need real training to prepare yourself

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Speaker 10: for that. And you'd think with Gaechie being that other

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Speaker 10: version of a dark force, you know, maybe he wouldn't.

1335
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Speaker 10: But you know, I read Dustin Quarrier's out there masvedl Usman,

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Speaker 10: and then I just read that Woodley and Covington are

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Speaker 10: willing to fight each other on last minute.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if these guys are just throwing their

1339
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 7: names in the ring just.

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Speaker 10: To kind of be relevant, like in this time of

1341
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 10: lack of content.

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Speaker 7: But at this point, I just say, you push it back.

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Speaker 10: I you know, don't risk the fighter's health, don't risk

1344
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 10: putting together something that doesn't ge is gonna make sense

1345
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 10: in the long run. I'd hate together one of these

1346
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 10: guys get destroyed and kind of derail what type of

1347
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Speaker 10: future they really had, you know. So I mean, listen,

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Speaker 10: I want gay Chievers, Tony Ferguson, but I just don't

1349
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Speaker 10: want it with zero training.

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Speaker 3: So, Kenny, when we had Attasania Romero just a few

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01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 3: weeks ago, right the same month in which we're in

1352
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Speaker 3: right now, maybe we were blind to just how imminent

1353
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 3: and dangerous a threat this was gonna be. But don't

1354
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 3: you think promotionally that justin geechee A is the obvious

1355
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 3: next in line with respect to Connor McGregor or anybody else,

1356
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 3: but Geichee with a three fight winning streak in tow

1357
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Speaker 3: you gotta think some part of him was training for

1358
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Speaker 3: a date on April eighteenth. I'm not saying it's the

1359
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Speaker 3: ideal backdrop, but we mentioned earlier his teammate Sean Madden

1360
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 3: says he's been in the gym. I mean, don't you

1361
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Speaker 3: think the promotion put him on notice or on standby

1362
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Speaker 3: or Am I just speculating way too much?

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Speaker 5: I would think so.

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Speaker 4: And as a guy who's in the top five anyone

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Speaker 4: in any division, if you know a title fight is

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Speaker 4: about to take place in a month or two, stay ready.

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Speaker 5: I think that should just go without saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, if you're a good manager, you're telling

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Speaker 4: your guys to stay ready during that time in case

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01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 4: an injury or something crazy like this happens. If this

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Speaker 4: fight goes down, I wouldn't be surprised again to see

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Speaker 4: it at a different weight at like one hundred and

1373
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Speaker 4: sixty five pounds and maybe see it put down to

1374
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Speaker 4: a three round her, because again, they're not going to

1375
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 4: fight for a belt at this point.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know the interim belt.

1377
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Speaker 4: Tony has that This is about just trying to get

1378
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 4: a fight out there for the fans and for Geechee,

1379
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Speaker 4: I'm sure he's pushing for a higher weight in less rounds.

1380
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Speaker 4: Fighting Tony Ferguson for five rounds at this point, knowing

1381
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Speaker 4: how Tony trains for a fight is not a good

1382
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Speaker 4: idea for anybody taking a fight on short notice.

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Speaker 3: Ian Ali abdella Zis manages both Ibnmagobatov and Justin Geechee.

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Speaker 3: I know you've been on that side of things as

1385
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 3: a former MMA manager. Can't can't be a disadvantage for Gaichee,

1386
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 3: right in terms of knowing exactly what's going on with

1387
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Speaker 3: Kabib at any given time.

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Speaker 7: No, it's a huge.

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Speaker 10: Advantage of being part of that that was a dominant

1390
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Speaker 10: MMA with Ali.

1391
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Speaker 7: You know that stable.

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Speaker 10: They got a lot of guys, and out of all

1393
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Speaker 10: those guys, there's only so many in the top three

1394
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Speaker 10: in a division that could really affect each other.

1395
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Speaker 7: And this was kind of you know, if not.

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Speaker 10: The UFC, you know, preparing him, Ali had to upset them,

1397
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 10: like listen, I'm not be able to get could be

1398
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Speaker 10: about of Russia.

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Speaker 7: So you're the only choice.

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Speaker 10: You're the option, you know, unless Connor is going to

1401
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 10: come out of the blue and surprise us, which there's

1402
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 10: no way you let Connor fight on short notice. With

1403
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 10: the amount of promotion you can get behind that, you

1404
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 10: just you don't waste a Connor marketing opportunity there. So

1405
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 10: I think to your point, that's that's a really and

1406
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 10: that is the only point is with all the preparation

1407
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 10: you can have inside source, secret heads up, having Ali

1408
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 10: there as part of them as the manager, Yeah that

1409
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 10: might be the key that we aren't really seeing yet,

1410
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 10: but yeah, that could be it.

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01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 3: All right, and I'll let you go on this see

1412
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 3: and unless you got anything else on Tiger King on

1413
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 3: the way out, you know, I don't want to disappoint

1414
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 3: you and not give you a wide enough platform to

1415
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 3: talk about that shows. But it seems like because so

1416
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 3: many options could be off the table, everything is seemingly

1417
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 3: on the table right now we're here, and maybe Jorge

1418
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 3: Mosfeedal and Kamara Ousman could potentially fight on April eighteenth.

1419
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Speaker 3: I mean, it seems like this is such a unique

1420
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 3: circumstance that you have all these high profile fighters who

1421
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 3: certainly make a lot to show, who are offering themselves

1422
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 3: up for April lateeenth, that we don't know anything in

1423
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 3: terms of matchups right now as we sit here twenty

1424
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 3: days out, but we could be looking at a supercar

1425
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 3: for the ages if in fact they are able to

1426
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 3: make this card happen somewhere somehow.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm just curious to who's really been able to

1428
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 10: train fully and stay ready. And you know, like in

1429
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 10: Kamara Usman, I don't think he's ever taken a short

1430
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 10: notice fight.

1431
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 7: You know.

1432
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 10: I don't know if Masvidal has in the last few

1433
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 10: years either. And you know that's again you're talking about

1434
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 10: fights that are the UFC's key no profit that that

1435
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,479
Speaker 10: that's to me what's crazy. I think, if you're going

1436
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 10: to do this, I don't mind seeing Tyron Woodley and

1437
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 10: Kobe Covington take that spot. They're not gonna be one

1438
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 10: of the biggest, you know, marketing money makers out there,

1439
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 10: but it's still a very strong fight in the division

1440
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 10: that could have title implications, not you know, when this

1441
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 10: whole thing is all said and done. So I think

1442
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 10: that fight, if those guys are really ready, Just because

1443
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 10: Woodley was going to fight Lee on Edwards, what was

1444
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 10: last weekend, I'm so messed up on days at this point.

1445
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 7: I really have no idea. I missed my garbage guy

1446
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 7: this morning because I didn't even realize what.

1447
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Speaker 3: They was, but that was It's not like growing up

1448
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 3: in Massachusetts where you go to the fucking Wellesley dump

1449
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 3: and dump your shit. There's no dump down here, no dump,

1450
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 3: Ken Flow, right, you know what I'm saying.

1451
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 10: And my hos a bunch of assholes. I can't even

1452
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 10: leave the pale outside. I gotta keep it in my garage.

1453
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 10: My garage fucking stinks right now, so I gotta wait

1454
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 10: till Wednesday.

1455
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 7: I didn't even realize what day it was.

1456
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 10: But uh, you know what, I think Covington Woodley could

1457
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 10: be the backup plan. Or listen, if Tony Ferguson wants

1458
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 10: to be a complete psychopath and go up to one

1459
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 10: seventy and fight tyre On Woodley, I'm good with that too,

1460
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 10: because I know Woodley at least is ready.

1461
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 3: Right, hey, Ken Flow, you remember growing up on Sunday

1462
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 3: going to the fucking dump with your dad, dumpy shit.

1463
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 3: They got free books there, right, No, no.

1464
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 5: They had.

1465
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 4: They had to scan the sticker on the windshield, make

1466
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 4: sure you're a resident, and then you go in you

1467
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 4: dump the recycling.

1468
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Speaker 5: I remember, I remember.

1469
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Speaker 7: That's a thing.

1470
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Speaker 10: Wow, that's and by the way, one of our listeners

1471
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 10: wrote on YouTube they may have found someone of equal

1472
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 10: celebrity status.

1473
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 7: This can flow from Dover?

1474
01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 5: Interesting?

1475
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:02,439
Speaker 10: Oh who's that the band Dispatch? Have you guys heard

1476
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 10: of the band Dispatch?

1477
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 5: My friend was the singer in that band chat. Well,

1478
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 5: that doesn't.

1479
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 7: Surprise me because the people in.

1480
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 5: Hey.

1481
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 4: I also who we forgot about, and this was not

1482
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 4: very well known by used to drive by his house

1483
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 4: and see if I would spot him. Dominique Wilkins, when

1484
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 4: he played for the Boston Celtics, had a house in Dover.

1485
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there haven't been, but there have been a lot.

1486
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 3: I mean, Dominique Wilkins might be the highest profile, but Camflow,

1487
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 3: as you know, there have been a lot of those

1488
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 3: professional athletes who have settled out there in Dover. You're

1489
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,919
Speaker 3: the rooted guy, though, and don't give me this Dispatch

1490
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 3: bullshit right, great time. I know I got some of

1491
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 3: their songs on my phone, but I mean, they don't

1492
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 3: bleed that that royal blue and white like Flow does.

1493
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 3: Don't Sherburn High School?

1494
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 10: Our first comments somewhere through that out there, I go,

1495
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 10: that's great that there was at.

1496
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 3: Least a response to that, thinking of which we got

1497
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 3: to get out of here, but manscaped a lawnmower three

1498
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 3: point zero with the ceramic blade is going to our

1499
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 3: best YouTube commenter of the week. We're gonna give out

1500
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 3: another one this coming week. But Ian Parker, who is

1501
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 3: the winner week one.

1502
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 10: I'm gonna give a quick shout out to Jonathan Correa

1503
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 10: who said Ken Flow, the Duke of Dover, the tickler

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Speaker 10: of balls. He came in third place, Whisko Van Life.

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Speaker 10: My grass is beginning too long. My neighbors are getting pissed.

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Speaker 10: But the winner is gonna go to Oscar Silva, who said,

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Speaker 10: when you mow your lawn, the tree looks taller.

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Speaker 7: My tree needs a growth spurt.

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Speaker 10: Help me, Ian, so Oscar, We're gonna help that tree grow.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna help it sprout.

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Speaker 10: John Oscar Silva, gainst the lawnmower three point zero. Help

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Speaker 10: this man turn that stump into a sprouted tree.

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Speaker 7: Let's go Oscar.

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Speaker 3: Silva for the win. Get in touch with Ian Parker

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Speaker 3: on social media. He'll find you. You guys will figure out

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Speaker 3: a way to connect and we will get that longmowre

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Speaker 3: three point zero in the mail. All right, we got

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Speaker 3: to get on out of here. Thank you to our

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