WEBVTT - Girlboss Fascism 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:07.160 He's trying to conceive of it, girl Boss noised, No, 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:10.080 I'm trying. There's trying to think of something that's about 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:12.719 like Italian racism, um and how we should all be 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:17.760 racist against Italians um because now it's important. Um oh hi, 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:21.200 welcome to it could happen here the show where we're 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:27.400 talking about anti Italian racism um and and also girl 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.880 Bosses finally to two great tastes that go great together. 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:39.159 So like mixing peanut butter and piss. That's right, the 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:44.520 piss being Italians. Girl Boss. I usually don't say things 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:48.440 that are that obvious, but yes, with me today is 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:53.920 Chris James and Robert I'm Garrison, and we're talking about 0:00:54.120 --> 0:01:00.360 girl boss fascism today. Um and uh, it's are we 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.160 going to say Georgia? Is that how we're going to 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.080 do it? Is that how we're going to say her name? Georgia? 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:10.960 But I don't know George Georgia Milani, Georgia Milani, Georgia 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:16.600 Milani Atly's new prime Minister, Gia Milan. That's what I 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:21.560 was waiting for. You put some Italian on it. Yeah, 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:28.319 spice up that meat a ball. So since since she's 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.800 been the head of the Brothers of Italy Party, which 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:32.640 is funny because what I think of the Brothers of Italy, 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:36.000 I just think of Mario and Luigi. Obviously, that's there, 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:39.959 that's what most people think. So but Marco and Luigi 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:47.800 also fascists, so well, they're monarchists. Yeah, they're monarchists. They 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:52.559 specifically served Princess So so Bowser, who's the girl boss 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:58.680 is Bowser is your standard issue left wing polit bureau 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:03.440 chief type leader. Whereas what Mario and Luigi are doing, 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:08.760 like Mussolini is installing a royal in power, is taking 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.480 its Essentially every Mario game is recreating the March on Rome. 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:17.000 I have like ten pages to get through. Stol come 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:21.600 into it. So its for the head of the Brothers 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:25.480 of Italy Party, a party with direct lineage from the 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:30.240 fascist Italian Social Movement, and Melani herself has been on 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:34.959 camera praising figures like Mussolini, uh and until very recently 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.079 the Brothers of Italy Party, besides being a very pro 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.640 plumbing we're we're pretty on the we're pretty on the 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:45.680 fridges of Italian volunteer. Just four years ago, the party 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.800 won only four percent of the votes in the last election, 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.760 and now it's become Italy's largest political party, claiming the 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:56.040 greatest percentage of the vote in the last month's election. 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:01.520 So today we're gonna talk about UH Millennia is what 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.080 what she believes, what she kind of what what her 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:09.240 rhetoric is, and then also the types of how the 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.640 types of ways that media has been framing her relation 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.960 to fascism, because there's definitely been this perception that like 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.720 liberal feminists and mainstream media have been kind of soft 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:23.520 on Melanie because she's the first woman prime minister of 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.720 Italy UM and they have they've kind of framed her 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:30.200 ascension to power and like a girl boss, go get 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:34.160 it sort of way, and have been downplaying her more 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.760 fascist views. So we're gonna talk about kind of where 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.760 this perception comes from, the few ways where it's kind 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.120 of correct, and some of the ways where it's I 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:45.080 think a little off base. To start off with this, 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.040 one of the kind of one of the biggest things 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:52.240 that UH pushed this perception into the forefront was a 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:56.960 tweet from Political Europe accompanying an article now that this 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:02.240 this tweet, sorry, thank you, thank you, UM And because 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:06.240 I hate basing our research off of things that are 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.840 just on Twitter. This tweet has been referenced a lot 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.480 on like television, UM on like news, and like News 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.640 TV has been using this tweet a lot as well. 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.720 This is this kind of shaped the way that discussions 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:21.480 happening on a national stage, even off Twitter. Um but 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:26.000 the tweet. The tweet reads in a fifteen year old 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.360 school girl went to join her local branch of the 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:33.679 far right Youth Front in Rome. The all male group 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:38.039 of radicals met her with amusement. Thirty years later, Georgia 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:42.799 Milani is now on course to become Italy's first female 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:47.279 prime minister. So the way that frameor works is like, yeah, 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.679 this this little girl wanted to join her Nazi club 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:55.440 and it was and now she's finally private minister, the 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:59.080 first one. And so yes, obviously this is very cringe 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:03.120 e um not not great framing. A lot of good 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:10.480 girl Hitler jokes, even picked up presidents. Listen, I'm no really, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:16.120 I'm happy Wow a girl president. How progressive? And so 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:21.880 takes venture brothers Uh no uncritical support, it's just just 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:27.240 support to venture brothers. Um. So takes like like that, 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.960 like what like what we just heard a dean of 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:34.560 ventures say? Kind of kind of spawned a big slew 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:38.360 of of comments. You know, I'm just gonna read, read, 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.200 read some of the stuff that the people have been 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.400 saying in response to stuff like that Political Europe a 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:48.160 piece quote begging liberals to stop praising girl Bossellini for 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.280 being brave enough to shatter the glass ceiling in the 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:55.120 neo fascist parties she's joined, and like, why is media 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.240 treating this as a freaking girl boss story? The girl 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:03.040 bossification of Georgia mL has been interesting to watch. Liberals 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:06.359 will literally stand anybody. So there's a lot of a 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.240 lot of takes like that have been have been have 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:14.240 been going around. There's there's been extremely viral viral tweets 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:18.000 getting hundreds of thousands of of likes, thousands of thousands 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:22.520 retweets and shares, stuff getting referenced on national TV all 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:26.559 kind of about this, you know, people complaining the takes 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.120 from Political Europe and and other other kind of various 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:33.520 soft headlines emphasizing the girl boss nature being like the 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.400 sweet little girl defies the odds and grows up to 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:40.520 be the first female Mussolini. So, like, some of these 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:44.600 jokes are pretty funny. I think I think they're they're funny. Um, 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.479 they're fine. There's oh. Probably the worst one of these 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.960 takes that I found that still got hundreds of retweets 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.919 and thousands of likes was quote the American right and 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:58.480 the American left. The aesthetics are different, but the effect 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:02.520 is the same. Porch for the rising tide of fascism. 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.960 Communists are the only people now as in the past, 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:17.080 who truly opposed fashion fare for fox sake is true 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:22.200 for those of you following along time. No, yeah, there 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.840 was a terrible Megan McCain tweet, which is very funny 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.840 because people definitely wish we'll talk about the Megan McCain 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:33.000 can't wait I have, Yes, well, we'll talk about our 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:36.360 good friend Megan McCain. But yeah, so you know Italy's 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.160 Italy elected their first female Mussolini. Um in a remarkable 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:44.880 victory for both girl power and diversity in politics and people. People. Uh, 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.840 people had some good japes. So the other the other 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:55.440 kind of big thing that caused this perception that that 0:07:55.600 --> 0:08:00.280 like that, like the liberals will literally stand anybody. The 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:02.960 other big thing I kind of caused that was, uh, 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:08.840 some viral quotes from Hillary Clinton, uh talking talking about 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:15.200 the the rule of of women in politics and referencing Milani. 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:22.640 So some remarks from Hillary Clinton published in Italy last September. 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:24.720 I think it was that. I think it was that 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:29.240 like the Venice of Film Festival. Actually, um So, some 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.280 some quotes from an interview that she gave at the 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:35.920 Venice Film Festival went viral. Um mostly because tweets included 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:40.000 to two small clips of of these quotes when she 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:46.319 was talking about both women in politics and uh, Georgie, George, Gia, Georgia, 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:51.040 You're doing great, buddy. Multiple viral tweets circulated, mostly with 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.480 two short quotes from Clinton getting the majority of attention, saying, quote, 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.160 the election of the first woman prime minister in a 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:00.560 country always represents a break with the past and is 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:04.080 certainly a good thing unquote, and a second quote being 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.600 every time a woman is elected to head of state 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:12.000 or government that is a step forward unquote. Um. Obviously, 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.920 those takes, in anough of themselves, not very good. I 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.680 don't think there's a good opinions. UM. Shocking, shocking that 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:23.439 we are going to criticize the statement from Hillary Clinton. 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:27.640 This is this is rare for us. Um. It's you know, 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:31.200 it's it's I'm I'm surprised as well. But um, these 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.280 kind of are slightly cherry picked from a larger section 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.400 of this interview discussing women in government and how the 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:42.040 far right is starting to use tokenized women to uphold 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:46.719 patriarchy and conservatism. So the first quote is taken from 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.440 this from a translation of an interview that that that 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.959 Clinton did at the Venice Film Festival in September, prior 0:09:55.080 --> 0:10:00.439 to Mlanni's apparent victory in the Italian elections in September. 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.760 So she'd do it in Italian. She speak Italian, you know, 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.280 but it was only published in Italian, so we're translating 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:15.079 from Italian back into English, double translation. But the so 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.520 in a section of the interview talking about the increase 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:21.280 of women in governmental leadership, Roles, a translation from her 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.679 remarks in the larger section of this interview reads, quote, 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:26.959 the election of the first woman prime minister in a 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.240 country always represents a break with the past and is 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.120 certainly a good thing. But then, as with any leader, 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.160 woman or man, she must be judged by what she does. 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.640 I never agreed with Margaret Thatcher, but I admired her 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:44.080 determination clearly than the ideas are voted for. I admired 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.600 her determinating stamp on the neck of the working class. 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:52.360 Funck Off also does does she really oppose Margaret Thatcher's policies. Yeah, 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:54.840 I don't know. I don't know if I believe that 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.400 one that lady is dead in the world is better 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:03.480 for it and girl power, Yes, of course. Do you 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.280 think she effectively uti let grow power by funneling money 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:10.280 to illegal paramilitary des squads in Northern Ireland? I don't 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.360 know about that. There's this thing that you get with 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:17.160 like people talking about all of these ghouls where and 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:19.559 it's specifically like a centrist thing where it's like, well, 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.400 certain things are just admirable traits, no matter about who 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.040 has them, and you can admire that trade. And it's like, no, 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.280 it's it's not like there were a lot of men 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.080 in the SS who you know, we're we're willing to 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.439 do things that you would call brave, but it doesn't 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.520 mean you have to consider them admirable. I think you 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.200 don't have to have respect for you don't have to 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:44.760 hand into the Nazis exactly like just certain people. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.920 the contribution to the world is bad. You can stop 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:52.360 stop that uger Thatcher being a good example. I have 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.200 kind of the same thoughts on the inclusion of Todet 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.679 inside the new Mario Kart games. It's just really it's 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.200 it's just your signifying it, but it's not actually a 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:04.760 step forward for the toad race. It's um So. In 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:09.120 the next section of the interview, Clinton also has come 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:13.679 out against work mario'cut. The next section, Clinton also acknowledges 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:18.920 a conservative women politicians role in upholding patriarchal government, saying, quote, 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.080 women on the right are protected by patriarchy because they 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.600 are often the first to support the fundamental pillars of 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.960 male power and privilege. Today in America, the right wing 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:32.360 leaders are very much against abortion. Um So, she she 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.800 did like it was part of this section talking about 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.079 how women who are on the right and are running 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.880 is concerned of politicians actually support all of the all 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.760 the things that keep patriarchy alive and blah blah blah 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.160 blah blah blah blah. Well, it's it's true centrism, right. 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:47.680 It's half of a good take and half of a 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:55.160 terrible exactly exactly so so yeah, so our snippets of 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:59.520 her comments embarrassing rewomen being a break from the past 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.160 always been a good thing. Yes, most certainly. M Are 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.319 they taken out of context enough to change the scope 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.760 of what's being said? I suppose that's the subjective. Um. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.040 But I just thought that's interesting that there was very 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:13.040 select few quotes that were getting a whole bunch of traction, 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:17.760 and her larger statements are actually slightly more interesting. Article. 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.640 Don't don't do the Alex Jones ship of getting mad 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:24.760 at a headline? Yeah, six seconds, Like, come on, people, 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.360 you have to be better than this. And I think still, 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.440 you know, I see the same thing whenever I'm playing 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:37.200 Mario Sunshine and there's the graffiti. Um, you can you 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:40.560 can get mad at just saying it's the graffiti all over? Definitely, 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:42.800 no pasa. You can get mad about that. But once 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.160 you actually start learning how Bowser Jr. Was treated as 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.120 a kid, it's it's there's actually more, there's more that 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.440 you actually can understand about what's going on and what 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:56.640 leads to that behavior from Bowser Jr. Very identifiable. Everybody 0:13:56.760 --> 0:14:00.240 understands those references. Garrett, good work. Yeah. I just want 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.240 to say that there is only one square in Italy 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.800 that matters, and that is piet Saliretto. And you can 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:09.600 you can google it. I just I love the juxtaposition 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:13.280 of Garrison struggling over every single word that's in the 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:17.200 in the neighborhood of Italy, and then James just perfectly saying, 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:21.280 some fucking Italian ship. My Italian is bad. My Italian 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:25.000 comes exclusively. Your Italian is much better than anyone else. 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.920 Here's maybe I know I swear, I swear other managed 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.560 bandex is. I know a couple of curse words from 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.800 watching my uncle's play pool when I was a kid. 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:35.960 But that's about all I've got. I rely on that 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.920 hand gesture, which works very well, and hand gestures are 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:42.640 eight percent of Italian. Yeah, yes, it's true. Okay, So now, 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.680 having now exhausted every conceivable Italian joke, we could proceed 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:50.320 with the spirit. We can actually proceed with an ad break. 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.200 Do you do you know what else is in supportive 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.480 anti Italian racism? Who won't kill miss Lenian hang him 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.200 upside down in a square? I mean probably the current 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:14.760 Prime Minister of Yeah, that's true. Also probably these advertisers. Okay, 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.440 and we are back. So there was there has been 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.400 this kind of perception that the media kind of by 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.800 and large dropped the ball on this one, and this 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:27.840 element was pretty widespread among leftists that the kind of 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.280 there was a lot of emphasis on the the breaking 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:35.040 the fascist glass of ceiling and less on the fascist part. 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:39.600 There was even people like the MSNBC hosts Meddi Hassan 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:43.040 who ran a whole segment on his show about kind 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:48.000 of mainstream liberal media, let's downplaying the fascistic elements of 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:52.800 milani uh in headlines in favor of the girl power angle. 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.200 What's been so depressing. It's to see so much of 0:15:56.240 --> 0:16:00.360 the quote unquote liberal media, the mainstream media, the m 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.360 s M giving a pass to Maloney or playing down 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.000 on her and her party's fascist roots, focusing more on 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.880 the fact that she's female and less on the fact 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:13.680 that she's you know, fascistic. That has been deeply, deeply 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:18.480 depressing to see. There was the Washington Post headline, Georgia 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:23.920 Maloney could become Italy's first female prime minister. Here's what 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:29.000 to know. Now, here's what you wouldn't know from that headline. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:33.840 You wouldn't know that she has ties to fascism, but hey, 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:38.120 she's female. There was the headline in the Financial Times. 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.240 We can pull that up as well. Likely victory for 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:45.720 Italian right portends risks, but no lurch into extremism. Don't worry, 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.520 no lurch to extremism, even though they just elected card 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:53.800 carrying extremists. But still hers is a heartwarming tale, isn't it? 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.800 I kid you not? This was the tweet from Political Europe. 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.400 Let's pull up the tweet from Political Europe. In July nine, 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.360 a fifteen year old school girl rang the doorbell at 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.480 a local branch of the Youth Front, a far right 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.560 movement in Rome, and asked to be let in this 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:14.720 weekend that same schoolgirl could become Italy's next prime minister. Wow, 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:20.760 forget the fascism, forget the fascism, focus on the inspiration there. 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.000 Then there was this op ed in the New York Times, 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:27.560 Georgia Maloney is extreme, but she's no tyrant. Well that's 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.120 all right. Then, at least she's not a tyrant. There 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.439 was this OpEd in The Atlantic, which argued that the 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.200 most immediate concern about Italy's new government is not any 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:38.840 threat to the country's democratic institution. Still less a return 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:42.480 to fascism. Did you notice a trend? Yet It's not 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.760 as bad as you think. This isn't really fascism, So 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:50.040 we'll we'll talk a bit more about media coverage of 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.560 Milani's election in a bit and how I think some 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:56.480 people are kind of desperate to see the stupid Democrat 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.640 Libs shill for fascism trope, especially with the whole girl 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.679 buss thing that they actually kind of miss how the 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:05.159 framing of Milanni's fascist ties has been perceived on a 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.480 broad scale. But first I want to get into who 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.560 she actually is, what her views are, and what her 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.880 election means. So it leaves a home. Italy is home 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:26.800 to sixty million people well with Robin, and it's continental 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:30.600 Europe's third largest economy. When it comes to the actual election, 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:34.720 the right wing coalition that Melani led one around of 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:38.720 the vote, with Melani's Brothers of Italy party getting around 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:43.040 twenty for the Senate race. So in all around three 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:46.919 out of four voters did not vote for Melani and 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.880 one in three didn't even vote at all, no surprise there, 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.000 But overall that means like only one in six Italian 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.520 adults voted for the Brothers of Italy party. Uh, and 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.119 that that does that does make them the biggest party 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:03.560 in the new parliament, but it's long term legitimacy is 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:07.639 still kind of in question because she was leading a 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:12.720 larger right wing block, but the but the actual party 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:17.960 that she's in and leads got like the vote, so 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:21.920 it's it's right, it's I think that's an important perspective 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.800 on like how long she'll actually stay in power. Italian 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.680 politics are kind of known for their kind of residing 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:30.800 government not lasting very long. There's there's usually a pretty 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:36.360 high like turnover rate, so we'll see. Um, yeah, they 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:41.680 it's an interesting composition right of like like moderate moderate 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:45.600 ish right wing people and then like some more hardcore 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:48.560 like no that it's the people who used to be 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:51.520 the League of the North, I think of the second 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:55.399 largest party, so it's not like a homogeneous block that 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.920 she's in charge of. Be kind of interesting to see 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:01.560 how they hold together. Yeah, and I think Melanie can 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:06.040 be an example of what political scientists called gender washing, 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:11.320 when when female politicians adopt a non threatening image to 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.880 blunt the force of their extremism. I think you can 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:16.840 see this as well with Daisy inside Mario Kart for 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:22.080 the for the Wei, extremely brutal character play style, very brawley, 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:26.120 but you know she acts very nice and that. Yeah, 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:29.040 she's just like just powers through other other carts on 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:33.119 the track. Um and it's it's It leads to this 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:37.040 slightly war perception of what Daisy actually does. Um So 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:41.760 and Melanie's signature look involves flowing outfits and pastel shades, 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:45.080 kind of like Princess Peach um and uninformed foreigners. Her 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:48.560 asthetic could look like female empowerment. She poses as like 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.680 a defender of women, even though her party has rolled 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.600 back women's rights. Just like in uh the two US 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:58.960 and six Princess Peach game, she was did brutal suppression 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:03.520 of protests around them ushroom Kingdom. So. David Broder, author 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:08.640 of Mussolini's Grandchildren, Fascism and Contemporary Italy, wrote in Political 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:12.120 Europe Get Funny. It's a very different take from Political 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:15.280 Europe and this one uh quote. Milani owes much more 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:19.480 to the moderate forces in what Italians call the center 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:24.360 right Alliance. They've allowed her the opportunity to present herself 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:27.480 as part of the main stream, not just because she's 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:31.359 been softening her policies, at least in presentation, but also 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:34.520 because the center right politicians jumping on her bandwag and 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:38.640 has given her of an eer of respectability and credibility. Um. 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:42.320 You can see this in Super Passionatest Brawl when Warrio 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:46.359 shows up a biker outfit, not wearing the regular Italian 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:49.920 uniform and they just let him play like Mario Luigi 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:52.920 are wearing their proper outfit and Warrior just like showed 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.719 up in like like a leather jacket and like ripped shorts. 0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:59.879 That's not okay, but it gave him the veneer of respectability. 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:02.480 But because others allowed it to take place kind of 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:04.879 kind of the same thing here with Milani. At the 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:09.160 same time, attempts by the main like center left rivals 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:11.760 to make the election about this kind of ghost of 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:16.240 fascism uh spreading again through Milani have proved unsuccessful. Voters 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:19.440 by enlarged and did not buy the narrative kind of 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:21.440 that that the left was trying to push that Milanni 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:24.760 was this reincarnation of fascism. They just it just that 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:27.439 that they were not. They were not convinced enough to 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:31.200 affect the election results in any in any meaningful way. Um. 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:33.960 Same way, Nintendo is not convinced that putting Walluiji in 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.399 the new Smash Bros. Will actually lead to more people 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:41.679 buying the game. Italian essayist Roberto Slavinio wrote, quote, the 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:44.920 far right can succeed in Italy because the left has failed, 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:48.480 exactly as in much of the world, to offer credible 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:52.360 visions or strategies. The left asks people to vote against 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:55.000 the right, but it lacks the political vision or an 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:57.760 economic alternative. And I think these are all the kind 0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:01.040 of factors that actually led Milani to win this election. 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:03.520 Should we talk a little bit about the sort of 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:08.240 democratic party like five Star Alliance things? That was sure 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:10.639 if you want to do like t ld R on 0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:14.560 that that would be great. So alright, long ago in 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:16.879 a galaxy far far away, Italy had a very very 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:19.840 large and powerful left um and then when the Soviet 0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:22.320 Union fell so that they had the Communist Party. The 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:25.159 Comunist Party was like one of the most powerful communist 0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:27.199 parties in the world. That wasn't like a sort of 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:31.000 like dictorial ruling party. But when the Soviet, like when 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:34.200 the USSR felt it like voted dissolve, itself basically became 0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:37.320 the Democratic Party, and all of their sort of militant 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:41.240 like much of the militants basically turned into Libs, and 0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:42.760 you know, I mean, and the Italian left like hell 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:45.639 together for kind of a long time after that because 0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:47.920 they had you know that there's there there's a very 0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:50.879 long tradition is sort of an extra parliamentary left and 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:55.440 like tartically an anarchist left in Italy, but like the 0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:57.560 modern I don't know, it's kind of a ship show 0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:00.280 like in in terms of actual party politics, like there's 0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:02.240 a there was this thing called the Five Stars Movements, 0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:07.640 which was like kind of like basically AstroTurf by Abilionaire. 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:11.000 It was just like very weird, very like early two 0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:15.480 thousand tens party that was like doing the whole sort 0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:17.560 of like we're going to do direct democracy by like 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.800 online polls things. It has just like really weird mish 0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:24.040 match like the main social Democratic for us. Yeah, well 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:26.720 sort of, but like they're very weird, like like I 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:28.760 don't know, you'll you'll get things from them, like okay, 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:30.880 we want like like they're they're not a normal social 0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:33.560 democratic party right there, closing to like the Pirate Party, 0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:36.440 but like way weirder. Like so you you'll you'll you'll 0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:38.480 get people in this party who are like you know, 0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:40.040 who who were who are like you know, sort of 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:42.399 like old school like like leftist militants. Because this is 0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:44.040 where sort of like the energy was going right, but 0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:46.840 also like there's like anti vaxers in it. It was 0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:49.960 just it was just really weird iological like sort of mishmash. 0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:52.439 And then when they sort of got into power, like 0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:54.120 none of these people have ever been in politics before, 0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.639 and so like you know, you'd get someone who was 0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.280 like the head of garbage collection, right, who's from this party, 0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:01.399 and they have no fucking idea how to collect garbage, right, 0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:04.040