WEBVTT - The OTP with Charles Davis

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<v Speaker 1>We welcome you to the OTP, presented by Farm Bureau

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<v Speaker 1>They've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is Mike Keith and I'm joined by Amy Wells. Amy.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing, Hey, Mike Keith, you sound especially announcery today.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we need to get you to booth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because I've got a top flight professional television announcer

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<v Speaker 1>with us. Say hello to our longtime friend and Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Hall of Famer Charles Davis. Welcome to the OTP. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me. It's great to see you guys again.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was doing the background stuff and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the jobs of Charles Davis. Amy, this

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<v Speaker 1>is incredible. He is the voice of Madden Football. So

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<v Speaker 1>for all the gamers out there, you know, Charles Davis

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<v Speaker 1>is the voice of Madden. You were doing Madden earlier today,

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<v Speaker 1>is that right? Yeah? Doing sessions from home myself and

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<v Speaker 1>my partner or the play by play voice, Brandon Goaden,

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<v Speaker 1>who at one point was the voice of Butler basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course football, although when you think Butler, you

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<v Speaker 1>think basketball and Georgia Tech before moving into the full

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<v Speaker 1>TV ranks. For the most part with Big ten network,

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports still does Westwood One radio for NCAA basketball

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<v Speaker 1>tournament and other things. So yeah, we're having to work

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<v Speaker 1>from home like everyone is, and the Maddened people came

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<v Speaker 1>through with home equipment and we're still cranking it out.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are you recording right now for Madden? What

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<v Speaker 1>are the sort of I know you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>give it all away, but the sort of topics that

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing at this point, well, finishing up everything to

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<v Speaker 1>get ready for this year's game to come out, Madden

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one. As you understand, during the initial days of

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, as we all came to a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a grinding halt, we're making up a ground there. We're

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<v Speaker 1>doing fixes and patches in the game, meaning you'll find

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<v Speaker 1>glitches in the game that the gamers will quickly let

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<v Speaker 1>you know about and you better really get it fixed

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<v Speaker 1>as fast as possible. And that's what we've been working

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<v Speaker 1>on as well. And I'm sure we're already sprinkling in

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff for next year's game to go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>start getting ready. But you know, we got all the

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<v Speaker 1>rookies now have been drafted, the free agents have changed teams,

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<v Speaker 1>and so for the most part, we have guys in

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<v Speaker 1>the proper places on their rosters. As we head into

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<v Speaker 1>training camp, obviously there'll be trades, cuts, things of that nature,

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<v Speaker 1>but right now we know Tooltunguea Violoa has indeed gone

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<v Speaker 1>to the Miami Dolphins, although I don't know we were

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<v Speaker 1>if we thought him going at number five was actually

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. Right we know that Isaiah Wilson is

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<v Speaker 1>now a Tennessee Titan. So these types of things, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>have to go into the game and people getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>for that. And I can't imagine it's real for these

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<v Speaker 1>young guys the first time. Did they get to see

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<v Speaker 1>themselves in this game? Because I would bet the vast

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<v Speaker 1>majority of them have played it growing up and probably

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<v Speaker 1>had visions in their mind, dreams of putting on that

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<v Speaker 1>NFL uniform and being in that game. And it won't

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<v Speaker 1>be long they'll be able to look and see themselves

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<v Speaker 1>in their uniforms playing. It's gonna be pretty cool. Amy,

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<v Speaker 1>would you freak if that were you? Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I would lose my mind. But I would also play

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<v Speaker 1>it every single day. I wouldn't. I would just play

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<v Speaker 1>myself on that video game, and I would want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear Charles's commentary every step of the way. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's also on Serious NFL satellite radio that's Channel

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<v Speaker 1>eighty eight. And how often are you on there in

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<v Speaker 1>the offseason? Typically once a week, usually on Thursday nights.

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<v Speaker 1>Occasionally we'll fill in when other people, you know how

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<v Speaker 1>it goes, take vacation or unavailable, that sort of deal.

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<v Speaker 1>But I typically do that from about the time we

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<v Speaker 1>all meet together at the Combine, you know, our annual

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<v Speaker 1>visit it the Combine in Indianapolis. That's when I tend

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<v Speaker 1>to start, and I will roll through until probably about

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<v Speaker 1>mid training camp, and then I get out of it

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<v Speaker 1>for the season. Could I do it, of course, But

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<v Speaker 1>I really like the flexibility during the season of just

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<v Speaker 1>locking in on what we all have to do each week,

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<v Speaker 1>which is getting ready for a game, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>the serious people have been fantastic with me, and and

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<v Speaker 1>really I appreciate every opportunity that they've given me. So

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<v Speaker 1>you understand, Mike, You've You've had plenty of experience with

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<v Speaker 1>the serious XEM people and doing the radio there, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember calling you one time. I was like, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm listening, tell you right, this is so cool. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do this with you. This is so awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, here, here we are once again. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>continuing to follow the path you've blazed and it's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>From the serious x M. NFL radio is fantastic. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. Now are you still doing NFL network stuff

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<v Speaker 1>when they call? But now that the draft is over,

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<v Speaker 1>As a general rule, I'm pretty well done until next year.

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<v Speaker 1>With the run up to the draft and through there.

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<v Speaker 1>There might be an occasional thing they might call me

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<v Speaker 1>for throughout the season, but not nearly like it was

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. You remember during that time frame, I would

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<v Speaker 1>do a game, whether it was a college or an

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<v Speaker 1>NFL game, on a Saturday or a Sunday and fly

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<v Speaker 1>to Los Angeles and then I'd be in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>work NFL Network Monday, Tuesday, maybe something possibly Wednesday, but

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<v Speaker 1>the general rule Tuesday, catch your red eye flight home,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Thursday or Friday start all over again, going

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<v Speaker 1>to the next city and doing the next game. And

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<v Speaker 1>I did that for about five years, so there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun. And you know, every time I tell

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<v Speaker 1>that story, I always say to myself, how's that sounding

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<v Speaker 1>to people? Are people hearing that and saying, oh, look

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<v Speaker 1>at you, mister, Oh my god, I had to fly

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere and do all of that. That is certainly not

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<v Speaker 1>the way I want to come across. It's an honor

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<v Speaker 1>for us to get to work. I mean, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that Amy knows that anytime someone asks us to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Are there times when we're tired? Yes? Are there times that,

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<v Speaker 1>oh boy, I had such and such scheduled. We have

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<v Speaker 1>all those things like everyone else has in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we all have different things. But but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want anyone to ever think for a second, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand. Yeah, we're pretty fortunate, you know, because because

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<v Speaker 1>people are working every single day in a decent number

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<v Speaker 1>of people are doing things they don't want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing exactly what we want to do, and I

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<v Speaker 1>cherish that. And then of course, back working with the

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<v Speaker 1>Titans an analyst for our preseason television. We are so

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<v Speaker 1>thrilled that you're back. Now. The question, however, is are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to play four preseason games or are we

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<v Speaker 1>going to play two? Preseason gifts. What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about hearing the first word of that right now? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's it's it's one of those things that

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<v Speaker 1>it stopped chewing your tracks and you first get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what exactly you and Amy thought right away,

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<v Speaker 1>but when I heard it, I was like, oh, because

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<v Speaker 1>we look at preseason a little bit differently than I

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<v Speaker 1>believe the general public looks at preseason now, because when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a young whipper snapper, preseason meant a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>There were six preseason games. Now, Amy, there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>you were around fronty of that, okay, but there used

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<v Speaker 1>to be six preseason games, fourteen regular season games, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you got into the playoffs and the six preseason games.

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<v Speaker 1>You were more than likely going to see starters in

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<v Speaker 1>every preseason game in some shape or form. Maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit less in the beginning, but as it went on,

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<v Speaker 1>more and more and more you would see them. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the sixth game that's when they pull people back, but

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, you would see starters all the

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<v Speaker 1>way through preseason. It was a different deal. Then as

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<v Speaker 1>we got to the four games in sixteen and other

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<v Speaker 1>things kicked in, it still took a while to get

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<v Speaker 1>to where we are now, where you may not see

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<v Speaker 1>any starters in the preseason, they may be in full

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<v Speaker 1>bubble rap. So to go from four to two for us,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit different because this is part of

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<v Speaker 1>what we do. This is part of our livelihood. And

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm thinking of people who work these games. Think

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<v Speaker 1>of the people at the stadium right who this is

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<v Speaker 1>part of their job and their income. If you cut

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<v Speaker 1>it down to two I'm guessing, right, guys, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about one home game, one road game, right, So they've

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<v Speaker 1>gone from two games to one. Their income gets cut

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<v Speaker 1>in half. If you're working at home. The people who

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<v Speaker 1>are doing the games, whether it's Titans, radio or TV,

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<v Speaker 1>now all those people who are used to working three

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<v Speaker 1>or four games depend on if you get a national

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<v Speaker 1>game or not. That gets shrunk down. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want people to hear that and think about us as much,

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<v Speaker 1>and think about everybody else that's involved in putting on

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<v Speaker 1>an event, putting on a game. They're come gets cut

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<v Speaker 1>in half because the preseason you're getting too. Now you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting cut to one. That's my first thought. My second

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<v Speaker 1>thought is I'm not overly surprised. It's been that type

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<v Speaker 1>of the off season with COVID going on. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not overly surprised at all, because aren't we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of headed in that direction to begin with, right where

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the day when we know we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get cut down on preseason. It just may start earlier

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<v Speaker 1>than we expected. So whether there's two preseason games or

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<v Speaker 1>four preseason games, you will still be working though, Charles,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're now also with CBS Sports. Tell me how

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<v Speaker 1>that CBS opportunity came to be Amy, You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>always to use the words lucky, fortunate, and I hope

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know right after a while because they're real.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was fortunate that, you know, I had fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>terrific years with Fox. I mean I got to do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things there, including the BCS National Championship

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<v Speaker 1>games before we got to the College Football playoff you

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<v Speaker 1>know called NFL games, you name it. I had an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to do a lot of great things there. But

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<v Speaker 1>my contract was ending at the end of last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and as a free agent, I had an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>explore other options if indeed someone was interested in me,

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<v Speaker 1>and as it turned out, I was again fortunate and

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<v Speaker 1>happy that CBS actually had some interest. So that's where

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<v Speaker 1>it came about, Amy, And it all worked out for

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<v Speaker 1>me that CBS had that interest, they had an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>for them, they hadn't something in mind. And as it

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<v Speaker 1>turned out, you know, Fox, as I said, terrific to

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<v Speaker 1>me for all those years, they gave me an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to continue with their their group and continue going. But

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<v Speaker 1>what it was all said and done, it made more

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<v Speaker 1>sense in my opinion, to be with CBS and start

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<v Speaker 1>a new chapter in my life. So I thank Fox.

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<v Speaker 1>I thank them for having the interest in me in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place and still wanting me to be around.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also thank CBS. Of course we're giving me

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<v Speaker 1>this great new place to be, great news start in

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<v Speaker 1>doing something thing that I love to do. And now

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<v Speaker 1>I get to work with a guy by the name

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<v Speaker 1>of I an Eagle and Evan Washingburn works the sidelines.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've been and I'll leave it with this. How

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<v Speaker 1>lucky am I in my career? Amy? These have been

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<v Speaker 1>the play by play people I've worked with at Fox. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom brennaman college football, Dick Stockton. When I went to

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, Tom Brennaman again while I was with the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Gus Johnson. When I went back to college football

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<v Speaker 1>and finished my last few years with Kevin Burkhardt, another

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<v Speaker 1>good one could not be I mean, what person could

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<v Speaker 1>be upset with those played by play people, every single

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<v Speaker 1>one of them phenomenal in what they're doing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Dick Stockton's a hall of famer, a living hall of

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<v Speaker 1>famer for us, you know, so to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, and in these last few years with Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>could not be better. And then what was my landing part?

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<v Speaker 1>Landling spot? I an Eagle? You're kidding me? I met

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<v Speaker 1>I in years of amy. I remember I told a

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<v Speaker 1>friend of mine, Laura Oak, and I said, Hey, if

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<v Speaker 1>I ever had a chance to work with I A

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagle in my career, that would be phenomenal. I've

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<v Speaker 1>realized that was probably ten years ago, and now it's

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<v Speaker 1>come it's actually come to pass. Unbelievable. Have you and

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<v Speaker 1>I and already started doing things together? Have you already

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<v Speaker 1>started the collaboration process. He's been so terrific. Welcomed me

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<v Speaker 1>right away, so did Evan Washburn, so did everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>on the team, you know. Producer Mark Wolfe and director

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Fishman. And we've been doing like I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of us have been doing, phone calls, zoom calls, emails,

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<v Speaker 1>getting to know each other, know each other's background, just

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<v Speaker 1>spending time and I think it's been extremely valuable for us.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I've liked about what these guys have done

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<v Speaker 1>and welcoming me in is they didn't bring me in

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<v Speaker 1>and say, Okay, this is how we do a game,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is how we're gonna go over the first quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just meeting each other, similar to the three of

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<v Speaker 1>us talking right now, we've got experience. We've done this

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<v Speaker 1>us for a while. Now we fall into this like that,

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<v Speaker 1>the three of us, we're learning that. Now I'm learning them,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're learning me. But I consider myself again happy

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<v Speaker 1>and again fortunate. These guys have been extremely welcoming and

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<v Speaker 1>it's been fun. Now you've had the opportunity to start

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<v Speaker 1>that prep process a little bit, and we talked a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about the preseason, but we are hoping that

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<v Speaker 1>things are still on track for the twenty twenty season

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<v Speaker 1>to start kind of in a regular fashion. In your opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the biggest hurdle that's kind of left to

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<v Speaker 1>clear before we can, maybe with more confidence, say that

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<v Speaker 1>the seasons is going to start on time. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that expression above my head. It is, but only for

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<v Speaker 1>this reason. Our medical experts are going to tell us

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<v Speaker 1>what the big hurdle is. I mean, they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>flat out tell us. And what I love about us

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<v Speaker 1>and I keep referencing the three of us because I

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<v Speaker 1>know that we do the same thing right in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of we prep, we care, we investigate, we do all

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<v Speaker 1>those things. And you guys have been so wonderful to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's be honest about it. Whatever the adjustment is,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be prepared for it right. Whatever it is, and

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<v Speaker 1>how they say we go, how we cover, how we

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do it, that's not a big That part's not

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal. Whether it'll look like gets looked before.

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<v Speaker 1>The medical experts to tell us that and the league

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<v Speaker 1>will listen to them and then they'll emplement how we go.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the only thing I keep coming back to.

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<v Speaker 1>But whatever it is, it's kind of like remember the

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<v Speaker 1>Titans when when Louis came running into their first being

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit late, and they're like, where do you guy?

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I heard football and I came running, that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be the three of us. Well, there's been some

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<v Speaker 1>talk in some other sports that broadcasts like radio and

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<v Speaker 1>TV are going to be done remotely. So do you

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<v Speaker 1>have any experience with that? Do you know what some

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<v Speaker 1>of the challenges may be with broadcasting and you're not

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<v Speaker 1>running into the field, but you're running to a studio

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere to broadcasts. You know. I did some remote games

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<v Speaker 1>for NFL Europe years ago. All right. I went to

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<v Speaker 1>a studio and I think I went to NFL films

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<v Speaker 1>and did games that were in Amsterdam or Barcelona or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember challenges during that time, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>younger in my career, and I was just like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>great and you just go ahead and do it. The

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<v Speaker 1>rest of it, I couldn't begin to tell you because

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<v Speaker 1>I know whatever is going on out there, everyone behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes is going through all the permutations, aren't there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going through all the possibilities. Shouldn't we try this?

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<v Speaker 1>Should we do that? And again when they tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do it. But I don't know of

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<v Speaker 1>any major challenges other than, let's be honest about it,

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<v Speaker 1>we're used to being on site We're used to being

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<v Speaker 1>in the fray. We're used to walking into that stadium

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<v Speaker 1>three hours ahead of time and feeling it all unfold

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<v Speaker 1>in front of us rise to a crescendo. If we're

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<v Speaker 1>all going to studios, that part may be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>different for us. But again, we would adjust, and we

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<v Speaker 1>would adapt, and we would do it. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being on site with a full crowd is a whole

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<v Speaker 1>different ballgame than than not. We'll just have to see

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<v Speaker 1>if we actually get to that point. This is the OTP,

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans, Amy Wells, Mike Keith,

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<v Speaker 1>joined by Tennessee Sports Hall of Famer Charles Davis, who

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<v Speaker 1>is leaving Fox to broadcast for CBS. One more broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>question before I jump into the Titans, Gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to do other sports, Gonna have a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>do other things for CBS. Do you know yet there's

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<v Speaker 1>a possibility that I might do some do some golf.

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<v Speaker 1>They had mentioned that and with PGA Tour Radio on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>with the golf coming, Golf coming back, I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>something with PGA Tour Radio, you know, through CBS, I

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<v Speaker 1>would believe, for about an hour and a half on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet, which is gonna be a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>to get my feet wet again and kind of get

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<v Speaker 1>reintroduced to my old PGA tour days, which was a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot of fun when I was a tournament director

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<v Speaker 1>at Disney. So yeah, Matt might do a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of that, but again that remains to be seen. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know how that is, Mike and Amy. Bottom line

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<v Speaker 1>is they signed me up for football. I'd better do

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<v Speaker 1>my best job with that before I worry about anything else. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true, but you have that background with golf and

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<v Speaker 1>you have such a love for any sport and such

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<v Speaker 1>a great night. I could see you work in the

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<v Speaker 1>nc Double A tournament somehow, and that was a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>I did that, I think for three years and had

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<v Speaker 1>a great time working NCAA tournament and meeting coaches and

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<v Speaker 1>doing interviews and chasing down players after hitting game winners

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<v Speaker 1>and things of that nature. That was a blast. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some of the newer types. Charles. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the exciting things about you being on CBS, as you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get to do AFC games, Hopefully we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Charles Davis at Nissan State him and

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<v Speaker 1>on the road calling Titans games. But for the last

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<v Speaker 1>few years you've called NFC games, You've seen the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>Falcons a lot. Tell us what you think about the

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<v Speaker 1>Titans newest outside linebacker, Vic Beasley. He's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys that's just loaded with talent. We saw that in

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<v Speaker 1>what was it the twenty sixteen season, which was the

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<v Speaker 1>monster breakout, you know, when he had fifteen and a

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<v Speaker 1>half sacks. Even more than that, I think he had

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<v Speaker 1>seven fourced fumbles during that time. He was he was

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you were looking for. You know. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>know nowadays we don't need a ton of bulk to

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<v Speaker 1>play on the defensive side of the vault. Speed, the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to get to the quarterback. That's what made Big

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<v Speaker 1>Beasley Vic Beasley. I think the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>for him and in Atlanta, he's been more of a

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<v Speaker 1>hybrid type player where he's had to play on the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive front and maybe drop into coverage a little more

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<v Speaker 1>often than maybe you might expect from that type of

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<v Speaker 1>a player. My guess is that Mike Graybill now have

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<v Speaker 1>a heavier hand in the defense, a second opportunity for

0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Vic Beasley in a new spot. He's going to do

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<v Speaker 1>probably brush you in the quarterback that's what this That's

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<v Speaker 1>what they got him for. That was a need for

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee something to upgrade. And if they can get that

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<v Speaker 1>Vic Beasley back twenty sixteen or approaching those numbers, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big hit for Tennessee because now it allows

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<v Speaker 1>the Jeffrey Simmons of the world to work inside and

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<v Speaker 1>be even more courseful getting up field themselves. From Titans fans,

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<v Speaker 1>I get a lot of questions and Mike Keith, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you did too, about the time second round pick

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Fulton and whether he will be ready to make

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<v Speaker 1>an impact in this Titan secondary as a rookie. Now, Charles,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Dbs, you know Christian Fulton. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>like about him and how he's going to fit in

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<v Speaker 1>with the Titans. Well, what I like is one playing

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<v Speaker 1>in the SEC and dealing with the speed that he

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<v Speaker 1>saw every week. That was a big deal. Next step

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<v Speaker 1>is playing at LSU and dealing with the receivers that

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<v Speaker 1>they put out, because think about it, justin Jefferson, first

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<v Speaker 1>round pick this year, right going to the Minnesota Vikings,

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<v Speaker 1>their number one receiver wasn't eligible to come out this

0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:17.680
<v Speaker 1>year Jamar Chase, he was the bullet and the coff winner.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in college Roll was the best receiver in

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<v Speaker 1>the country. So those are the types of players he

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<v Speaker 1>has to deal with all the time. You know, worked outside,

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<v Speaker 1>worked inside in the slot. He's really a quieter kid.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not one of those you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times with dbs and wide receivers, you know, we tend

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little more of the expressive types. So

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<v Speaker 1>he is not really like that in terms of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that type of interpersonal and being a little brash and louder.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be much more letting his play do the

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<v Speaker 1>work for him. I think he'll have a very nice

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to get his feet wet early and have a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to go in there and play. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>for him, if I'm eyeballing a spot to go, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking hard about going inside and playing that nickel with

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<v Speaker 1>everyone that they've got in the secondary already that can

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<v Speaker 1>command the outside of the Dory and Malcolm and you

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<v Speaker 1>know those guys, I think hard about finding a spot

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<v Speaker 1>there being able to get on the field early. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do think having played at LSU, played for a

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<v Speaker 1>national Championship last year, played more games in the average

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<v Speaker 1>Bear and more big games than the average Bear. That

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<v Speaker 1>helps your transition coming into the NFL. Now, he touched

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<v Speaker 1>on a little a little bit earlier, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to circle back to it. There's a chance Mike Rabel

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<v Speaker 1>could be calling the Titans defense this year. What challenges

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<v Speaker 1>do you see for him if that's a role he

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<v Speaker 1>decides to take on. Well, I think for coach Rabel,

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<v Speaker 1>the challenge is just simply delegating a few more things

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<v Speaker 1>off of his plate in order to get ready to

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<v Speaker 1>be a play caller on the weekend. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna shirt his duties of being the head coach

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<v Speaker 1>in the face of the franchise for Tennessee. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still going to get him in those pressers and

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<v Speaker 1>other things that he's going to have to do. But

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<v Speaker 1>as far as some of the other things that he'll have,

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<v Speaker 1>every head coach has a personal you know, a guy

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<v Speaker 1>next to him, kind of like if you were a

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<v Speaker 1>West Wing fan back in the day, Charlie was the

0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:13.800
<v Speaker 1>body guy for President Bartley. Everybody's got a body guy,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. That body person is going to take a

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<v Speaker 1>few more things off of the play to the head

0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:20.840
<v Speaker 1>coach as well, in order for him to game plan

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<v Speaker 1>spend that time with the defensive staff in order to

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<v Speaker 1>get ready to call that game. If indeed that's the

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<v Speaker 1>direction that he goes. But I don't think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>major problem for a guy like Mike Grabel delegating understanding

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<v Speaker 1>being efficient use of time. He's already done it. Remember

0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:41.760
<v Speaker 1>he's been a decordinator in the league before, So for him,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just going back to his roots and being a

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<v Speaker 1>little more hands on on game day, even though, let's

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<v Speaker 1>face it, over the headset, he's probably been hands on

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<v Speaker 1>on game day anyway, just making the final call, but

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<v Speaker 1>that final call goes through his head headset, so we

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<v Speaker 1>do know he's had a hand in that part of

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<v Speaker 1>it as well. Amy, did he know? Did he know

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<v Speaker 1>that you were a West Wing freak? I was just

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<v Speaker 1>about to say he enhanced this podcast by a million

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<v Speaker 1>percent by making a West Wing reference. I'm done, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out. We peaked, had no idea. You're best fan

0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:22.679
<v Speaker 1>favorite show at the Universe, hands down. We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation about this later, Charles. You're coming back for

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<v Speaker 1>the West Wing edition of the ONTP I'm excited about

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<v Speaker 1>that because I still remember the first episode when President

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<v Speaker 1>Barla Belle off the bicycle and got hurt and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to know who potus is. Oh, I could do

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course by the time it was over,

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<v Speaker 1>he realized that everybody hadn't really been doing their thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when we learned vacations over, everybody get back

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<v Speaker 1>to work. And we saw that repeated over the years

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<v Speaker 1>on the West Wing. Oh, this is making me so happy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not the West Wing podcast. Amy listens to

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<v Speaker 1>a West Wing podcast. This is actually the OTP presented

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<v Speaker 1>first line of protection. They've been protecting Tennessee and since

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty seven. I want to jump ahead and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk offense. We've been talking defense. What excites you,

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Davis about the Titans offense heading into twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>if they understand who they are and they're not worried

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<v Speaker 1>about Okay, do we have to change this? Do we

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<v Speaker 1>have to change that? Of course you're going to add wrinkles.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you're going to play off of some of

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<v Speaker 1>your success before. Of course you're going to say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>do we really want to run Derrick Henry every single

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<v Speaker 1>time we snapped the football. Those things are going to

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<v Speaker 1>come up and they're going to look at that and

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<v Speaker 1>tweak it. But when you look at their draft and

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<v Speaker 1>what John Robinson did and said, Okay, this is who

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<v Speaker 1>we are, where's our need and where do we have

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<v Speaker 1>to plug in? Jack conchlind goes to the Browns. Isaiah

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson gets drafted in the first round. Now, the three

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<v Speaker 1>of us know that if you go back through the

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<v Speaker 1>mock drafts of the so called experts, even though you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I would quote unquote counting that you and

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<v Speaker 1>Amy were counting that. But around the league, right we

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<v Speaker 1>all had, you know, mock drafts one, two, three to

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<v Speaker 1>four or five, whatever it was, pick the top people

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<v Speaker 1>that we saw out there. How many times did you

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<v Speaker 1>see Isaiah Wilson in the first round? Now, the answer

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<v Speaker 1>to me was probably zero up until probably the week

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<v Speaker 1>of the draft. And then you know how you get

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<v Speaker 1>closer to the draft and things start to leak out

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and you know, people hear different things

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<v Speaker 1>and they connect a few more dots and he started

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<v Speaker 1>to get a little more love closer to the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>But all in all, Isaiah Wilson wasn't on very many

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<v Speaker 1>mock drafts. People respected his ability, but they didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>another tackle going in that first round. The reason I

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<v Speaker 1>bring that up is John Robinson and crew were like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't care what you people think. We care what

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<v Speaker 1>we think. We care what it's good for our team,

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<v Speaker 1>how we evaluate it, how we're going to go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and do things. And by the way, this guy is

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<v Speaker 1>a Mahler brawler in the run game. That's where we

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<v Speaker 1>make our living. Hello, Isaiah Wilson, welcome to Tennessee. Do

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<v Speaker 1>the things we saw on tape at the University of

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia and better and we're gonna be just fine, young man.

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<v Speaker 1>Plug in and go. And then you continue to add

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<v Speaker 1>off of that offense, right, you continue to develop Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>Tannehill at the quarterback position and what he gave. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Derrick Henry's there, but one of my favorite picks was

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<v Speaker 1>Darrenton Evans. Okay, the kid out of Appalachian State. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about getting into my heart and me going yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the perfect type of a guy. Change up guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Forget that third down back stuff. This kid is a

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<v Speaker 1>running back, but he's going to give you those extra plays,

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<v Speaker 1>just like we had thought about Dion Lewis being here previously.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he's gonna do. Plus, he can bring a

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<v Speaker 1>game open if you want to make a mckickreturner as well,

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<v Speaker 1>plug independ state tape and watch him go. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about Jadeveon Clowney for a second. Titans

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<v Speaker 1>fans have been talking about Jadevian Clowney for months. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a free agent that the Titans add, Maybe not, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he goes somewhere else. So two part question, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think's going on with Jenevian Clowney right now? And

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<v Speaker 1>number two for the team that adds him, what does

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<v Speaker 1>he add to your defensive scheme that makes you different

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<v Speaker 1>and special? I think that for Jadevion Clowney and what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with him now, with no conversation with him,

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<v Speaker 1>no one in his camp outside observer, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>got to get comfortable with the idea that the money

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<v Speaker 1>he had hoped to make he might not make. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like he's not going to come close to

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<v Speaker 1>making that kind of money. I'm sure he was looking

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<v Speaker 1>for that top defensive end type of a contract and

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<v Speaker 1>it's has not been there. No one's come close to

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<v Speaker 1>showing him, you know, for Jerry McGuire and crew, no

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<v Speaker 1>one showing him that kind of money so far. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's got to get comfortable with that idea that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>am I gonna come down sign a one year or

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<v Speaker 1>two year maybe lesser money, try and make it up later.

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<v Speaker 1>All those things have to come into play. The second

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<v Speaker 1>part with that is where can I go to show

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<v Speaker 1>those talents in order to get that money, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>with that team I signed with or the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>jump somewhere else after having signed with them. Well, look,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a Tennessee Titans fan, you're going this is

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<v Speaker 1>a spot man. There's a screaming need for pass rusher

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<v Speaker 1>right here in Nashville. You'll be plugging play right away.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be counted on to be that guy. Yes, Vic

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<v Speaker 1>Beasley got signed in the off season, Yes, Harold Landry

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<v Speaker 1>is here, but Jadevi and Clowney shows up. This is

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<v Speaker 1>your chance, man, This is a great spot. Plus, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to a team that went to the NC Championship.

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<v Speaker 1>Game last year, and in your own division, you get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to go against Houston twice who you used

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<v Speaker 1>to be with. Go chase down Philip Rivers in Indianapolis

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<v Speaker 1>and go get a young Gardner Minshew in Jacksonville. Not

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<v Speaker 1>a bad place to go hunt it. So that part

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<v Speaker 1>works out well. The second part of this for him

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<v Speaker 1>is over time. All we talk about is athleticism, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because it is breathtaking. You guys remember when what was

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<v Speaker 1>four to six six at the combine and almost Dion

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<v Speaker 1>Sanders and just went out the door and we never

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<v Speaker 1>saw him again. He was number one picking the entire draft.

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<v Speaker 1>We remember the big play against was Vincent Smith from

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<v Speaker 1>from Michigan in the ballgame, right, we all remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking with Alex Boone, the former offensive lineman

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<v Speaker 1>with the Vikings and Arizona Cardinals. He said he played

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<v Speaker 1>against Clowney and he said two things. Consistency, which is

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. Is he bringing it every play every down. Heck,

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<v Speaker 1>forget every play. Can you get forty great plays out

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<v Speaker 1>of out of sixty snaps? If you do that, that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. You gonna get some big play. But he said,

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<v Speaker 1>underrated is his ability to play the run. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>Jadevidanwy's not just a pass rusher. He talked about one

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<v Speaker 1>play that he was like thinks with Minnesota. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>they're guard pulled and there's a trap play and Clowney's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna deal with this trap all day long,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said he hit the guard with a forearm

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<v Speaker 1>in the chest and knocked him out. He said, the

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<v Speaker 1>guards done finished game day day over. He has that

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<v Speaker 1>type of breath physical ability that you're which is part

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<v Speaker 1>of the problem because you see it and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want that every play. Well, it may not be

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<v Speaker 1>possible every play, so we fall back on well, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not giving it to man. I don't know about all

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<v Speaker 1>that part that I'm gonna leave that to the scouts

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<v Speaker 1>and the person to tell people. But I do know

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<v Speaker 1>consistencies the deal. Because let's just go back to last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it a Monday night against San Francisco he wore

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<v Speaker 1>them out their first loss, yep. Was there a better

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<v Speaker 1>defensive end in the league that night? The answer is no, absolutely. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>he wrecked the game. We use that term all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>probably more than we should. He wrecked that game for

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco and the rest of the season. Everybody kept

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for more of that, but he was in an

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<v Speaker 1>aval line up with some injuries, some other things that

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<v Speaker 1>went on. And here's the thing to remember. For all

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<v Speaker 1>his breathtaking gifts, the highest number of sacks and then

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<v Speaker 1>season for him is nine and a half, which absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>shocks you because you think he's a double digit guy

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<v Speaker 1>each and every year. But he has to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the field in order to do that. But look, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a friendly contract, then Tennessee can get him for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would run there myself, and I think John Robinson

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<v Speaker 1>would do exactly that if indeed it could fit within

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<v Speaker 1>their cap. It's a friendly contract for the team, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to get the kind of money he was

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<v Speaker 1>looking for. And when this whole thing began, are there

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<v Speaker 1>other agents that are still on the market that could

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<v Speaker 1>have that same level of impact for a team? I

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<v Speaker 1>think there are very few left when we're talking about that, amy,

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<v Speaker 1>when we're talking about who those free agents are, because

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<v Speaker 1>now we're really into quarterbacks, aren't we We're really into

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, how's Cam Newton not out there somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>running someone's team. And it is really blown me away

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, okay, let me get this straight. The

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<v Speaker 1>NFL MVP from just a few seasons ago, remember in Nashville,

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<v Speaker 1>helped cause a ker fluffle because he you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>time he's spent in the end zone and next thing

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're having a national debate about how long

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<v Speaker 1>you get to celebrate and all the other stuff. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not signed anywhere, and it looks like we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to get into training camp and see where an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>comes up if the starter goes down all those things,

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<v Speaker 1>which really really is stunning for guy visibilities. We're falling

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<v Speaker 1>back on the injury thing and in COVID times, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, we can't you know, get the physicals, do

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<v Speaker 1>all the things we're looking for. So we'll see how

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<v Speaker 1>that part plays out. But he's going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>big one. And obviously, you know, when when you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>out there for other players, I think Amy is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in training camp time. You know, maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>guy we're wondering if he can play one more year.

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<v Speaker 1>That team may decide he can't, but he may fit

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere else for someone. We'll just have to see how

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<v Speaker 1>it plays out. Right now, the biggest news in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL mirrors the biggest news in the world, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>that's talking about dealing with social injustice. So through the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation that has gone on over the last two weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the most important things you have heard and

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<v Speaker 1>are hearing right now? Charles Davis, Well, for me, the

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<v Speaker 1>consistency is the word listen. The consistent word, I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>has been the word listen. And it works every which way.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not just you listen to this group, or

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<v Speaker 1>you know they listen to you. It's all over the place,

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<v Speaker 1>all of us. It's like us having this conversation. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you ask me a question, I have to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>that question to give you a good answer. When I

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<v Speaker 1>throw something in there about the west Wind, Amy heard

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<v Speaker 1>that and reacted because she was listening. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>do that on the biggest scale we've ever had. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to listen and not be defensive, not wall

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<v Speaker 1>things off. If we hear something we didn't want to hear,

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<v Speaker 1>if we hear something that makes us uncomfortable, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the word we use all the time, which means that's

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<v Speaker 1>not me, that's someone else, you know, that's not this,

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<v Speaker 1>And all of us have to be able to drop

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<v Speaker 1>those defenses a little bit and find out what it

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<v Speaker 1>is that that person's talking about. You know, my parents,

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<v Speaker 1>I was so lucky to have the parents i've had.

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<v Speaker 1>I lost my mom four years ago. My dad's still

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<v Speaker 1>with me. But one thing they talked about with me

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<v Speaker 1>growing up is you're going to encounter issues. You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to just look at who you are, and that's just

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<v Speaker 1>there's just no way in this world a black person

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to have some issues along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be associated with the color of their

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<v Speaker 1>sk in. Now, is that going to paralyze you to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where you're going to just stop at that

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<v Speaker 1>point and I can't do anything or whatever. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>figure out other ways. Achievement was the word they talked

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<v Speaker 1>about all the time. How do you achieve how do

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<v Speaker 1>you push through? How do you tend to tend to

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<v Speaker 1>fight through all these things? Have that achievement? Treat people

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<v Speaker 1>as well as you as you expect to be treated.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't receive that back, figure out why,

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<v Speaker 1>how whatever, and keep moving because that's just we're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonnall like each other, and it's not always because of race.

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<v Speaker 1>I just may not like the sound of your voice.

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<v Speaker 1>You may hate the sound of mine, you may not

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<v Speaker 1>like the shirt ey war. It could be any of

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<v Speaker 1>those things. But if we listened to each other a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more, Mike and Amy, I just think that we

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 1>have a better chance. But it's really hard because we

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>all come hardwired and bring our own experiences with us,

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes those walls. It takes a while for us

0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:00.479
<v Speaker 1>to let those go and trust somebody else with someone

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>else when they tell us something about ourselves we may

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 1>not want to hear, or we may not have observed

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>in ourselves. And a lot of times you get, oh,

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>that's what you said to me, Well, let me tell

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you about you, and we hit back instead of going hum,

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>let me contemplate that, okay, and how do I bring

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that message to that person in a better way so

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 1>we actually continue to listen to each other. So it's hard,

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's really really hard, and I'm not about

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:30.280
<v Speaker 1>to be Pollyanna about it. We are in a really

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 1>tough spot right now, we really are. And you know,

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>for anyone in this world, if you can't see yourself

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>or someone that you know being in George Floyd's position,

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 1>and you can take everything else out of it all right,

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>whatever happened in George Floyd's past, whatever happened, and putting

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>him in that position there, the end result never should

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:57.840
<v Speaker 1>have happened. The end result should never happen. We've seen

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>mass murderers treated better, killing Root in South Carolina, killing

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>all those people in the church, gets walked out, didnt

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>see a scratched, didn't see it, issued, didn't see whatever.

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying there should have been. The right

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 1>way was to arrest toe me getting out of there.

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 1>But if that can happen, normal stop normal. You know,

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>arrest ends in a person being dead because someone was

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:34.359
<v Speaker 1>callously didn't care about their life. That doesn't make any sense.

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 1>So I just think that the dast majority of people

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>you me Amy No, would look at that and go

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 1>that's not right. And now here's our chance to start

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:45.400
<v Speaker 1>making it right in the future. And I think we

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>got to keep working together on that. From the listening

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 1>standpoint and the instructive standpoint. As painful as it was

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:56.800
<v Speaker 1>for all involved, will the Drew Brees New Orleans Saints

0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 1>situation end up being as good a lesson that comes

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>out of the NFL as we might have. And I'm

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:06.879
<v Speaker 1>talking about the whole seventy two hour process of it. Yeah,

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I think so in a lot of ways, because, like

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>an Aim, I'm of the opinion that if someone is

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<v Speaker 1>truly trying to help, if they say the wrong thing

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 1>or it doesn't come across the right way or whatever,

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 1>if that person has had a history of doing the

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 1>right things, am I gonna want to cast them aside

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 1>at that moment because of one comment? Probably not, That's

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<v Speaker 1>just the way I'm built. I want to hear more

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 1>about it. For Drew, look, being in that locker room

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>and not understanding what the message was trying to come

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>across and equating it again with kneeling in the flag

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:45.279
<v Speaker 1>and all, that was a mistake. But when they had

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 1>the zoom call and his teammates got with him and

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 1>the reaction and whatever, you've heard, his teammates come out

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and say, we hear Drew, we take him at his word,

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>we respect him, We're moving forward because it's not like

0:38:58.320 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Drew Brees didn't try and help a whole lot of

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 1>people along the way. I mean, who are we kidding? Right,

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.839
<v Speaker 1>go back and look at the track record. It's really impressive.

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Does that absolve him of the comment. No, but he's

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>acknowledged that. He acknowledged that to the world multiple times now.

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>When people say, Okay, let's see how he's gonna walk

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>the walk, I was like, he's walked it already. I

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:18.839
<v Speaker 1>think he'll keep walking it. I don't. I don't worry

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>about him. Those are types of things that for me,

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to see happen. I do know a number

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 1>of people have said, ah, done, definitely. How could he

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:30.360
<v Speaker 1>say that. That's not where I sit, Mike, That's not

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 1>where I sit, Amy, That's not how I go about it.

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying you can say anything, and I'm gonna

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 1>give you you know, and we're gonna get there. But

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:42.840
<v Speaker 1>if I know who you are before, I'm not about to. Okay,

0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 1>this was that comment. Let's find out what was driving it.

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you stand with that. Let's go from here, okay,

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and look where they are now. I think the Saints

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 1>are much healthier because of it, and they'll move forward.

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:58.319
<v Speaker 1>And the beauty for that is, in high school, your

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>head coach is probably involved in that. Right in college,

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 1>your head coach is probably involved in that. The NFL

0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the scenes pretty much took it upon themselves as a

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 1>locker room before Sean Payton and crew had even bother

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 1>to get involved, not that they wouldn't have. I'm just

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:19.760
<v Speaker 1>saying these are grown men having grown man discussions. People discussions,

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 1>adult human being discussions. Remember the words we used, uncomfortable listening.

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:28.799
<v Speaker 1>They'd listen to all sides, you know. And I'm sure

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 1>when Drew Brees had those conversations with guys, they may

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:34.439
<v Speaker 1>have heard some things from him that maybe they had

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to take stock of. I don't know that this was

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 1>just a one way street, even though it might be

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 1>painted that way, But it seems to me that that's

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 1>a healthy locker room. They found a way to negotiate

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>and maneuver through that, and I'd be surprised if we

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a lot of healthy locker rooms across the NFL.

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:52.919
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of these people will be able

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 1>to do that, and I hope that we can use

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 1>some of those locker rooms as models for the rest

0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 1>of our society. Last question, what needs to happen in

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the National Football League in the coming weeks and months

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 1>that can make a positive difference in all of society

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:15.360
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to social injustice. I just think in

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of ways, I don't want to come off

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 1>polly animight, because that's just the worst thing that can

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 1>do right now. But a lot of things have been

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.359
<v Speaker 1>said in the past, a lot of things have been

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>floated in the past, ideas how we can do things

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 1>better that may not have been heard before, that may

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:36.280
<v Speaker 1>have been rejected before, may not have been implemented before.

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:38.399
<v Speaker 1>I think we've got a chance to do that now,

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I really do. And I think that those are the

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 1>things that we will see. I just hope we don't

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:45.359
<v Speaker 1>get caught up in the whole idea of well, let's

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>see what happens on opening day, whether people are gonna,

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:51.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, kneel or what. It's way bigger than that,

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:55.840
<v Speaker 1>way bigger than that. And actually had someone say to

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 1>me the other day, someone I really really respect, like,

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:04.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm just wondering if whatever gesture the players and the

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 1>teams come up with, if you make sure it's not

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:12.359
<v Speaker 1>right there at the anthem so that no one gets

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 1>confused anymore about the flag. Well, people who have said

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that they would get with things as long as it

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 1>doesn't can you get involved? That would they now get involved?

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>It's a thought. I'm not sure we'll get there. We'll

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:28.439
<v Speaker 1>see how everyone decides to do it, but I still

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:31.239
<v Speaker 1>want everybody get caught up with that's the only conversation.

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 1>It's a much bigger deal than that. How do we

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 1>make things better? Continue to make things better? And I

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 1>think we got a lot of people who are trying

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to get that done. I mean, I do have optimism

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 1>that way. My heart hurts right now for our country.

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 1>But I will say this, the next time I hear

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 1>someone tell me we live in unprecedented times, I'm gonna

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 1>be like, hold on a second, because I've already done

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 1>it with people. Unprecedented. You have what history of did

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.800
<v Speaker 1>you watch in the United States? In a lot of

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:02.600
<v Speaker 1>take race out of it? How did the United States

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 1>get started? Revolution that unfortunately ended up violent? Right, But

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that's how we had to get our independence and start

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 1>as a nation. And we've had these things happen and

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 1>bubble all the way through. So when they say unprecedented,

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you're missing that. It's not unprecedented. But

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 1>this is our flashpoint? Is this our chance to jump

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 1>off and actually get better? That's what I'm looking for.

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's use this timeframe making a jump off point for

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 1>our country and all of us find a way to

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 1>get better. And the first person I'm looking as a guy,

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 1>look at it in the mirror every morning. I have

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>to be better. How's to start here? Everyone looks at it.

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what it's about. The defensiveness. Oh, you're telling me

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 1>what I have to do all the time. Yeah, but

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling myself, I'm part of I'm part of the deal.

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:50.240
<v Speaker 1>So I want to be part of the solution. Please

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 1>let me be part of that. Tennessee Sports Hall of Famer,

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<v Speaker 1>former Tennessee volunteer broadcaster for Fox Now for CBS PRECS

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:03.280
<v Speaker 1>in television with the Tennessee Titans. You are a friend

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and a gentleman and a scholar. And Amy Wells and

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you so much for joining us Charles Davis

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 1>on this edition of the OTP. Yeah, I thank you

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and Amy Wells and the Tennessee Titans. And can't wait

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 1>for all this to get started again when we're back

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>out on the field and all of us get together

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 1>and talk ball and talk Titans and talk season. So

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to it, and thank you both of

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 1>you and everyone else is watching. Please stay safe. You

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 1>know everything's going on in this world. COVID still out there.

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Please stay safe. Healthy, Let's not forget what's led us

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 1>do where we are today in a lot of ways,

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.759
<v Speaker 1>and the rest of it. Let's let's get better as

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:44.759
<v Speaker 1>a people, let's get better as a nation. And I

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:47.800
<v Speaker 1>want to be a part of that. For Charles Davis

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and Amy Wells, Mike Keith says, thanks for joining us.

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