1 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: We welcome you to the OTP, presented by Farm Bureau 2 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: Health Plans, and I read this for you get the 3 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: home field advantage with healthcare coverage from Farm Bureau Health Plans. 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: They've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. My 5 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: name is Mike Keith and I'm joined by Amy Wells. Amy. 6 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: How you doing, Hey, Mike Keith, you sound especially announcery today. 7 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: I feel like we need to get you to booth. 8 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: That's because I've got a top flight professional television announcer 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: with us. Say hello to our longtime friend and Tennessee 10 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Sports Hall of Famer Charles Davis. Welcome to the OTP. Hey, 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. It's great to see you guys again. 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,319 Speaker 1: So I was doing the background stuff and I was like, 13 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: let's talk about the jobs of Charles Davis. Amy, this 14 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: is incredible. He is the voice of Madden Football. So 15 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: for all the gamers out there, you know, Charles Davis 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: is the voice of Madden. You were doing Madden earlier today, 17 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: is that right? Yeah? Doing sessions from home myself and 18 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: my partner or the play by play voice, Brandon Goaden, 19 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: who at one point was the voice of Butler basketball, 20 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: and of course football, although when you think Butler, you 21 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: think basketball and Georgia Tech before moving into the full 22 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: TV ranks. For the most part with Big ten network, 23 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports still does Westwood One radio for NCAA basketball 24 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: tournament and other things. So yeah, we're having to work 25 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: from home like everyone is, and the Maddened people came 26 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: through with home equipment and we're still cranking it out. 27 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: So what are you recording right now for Madden? What 28 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: are the sort of I know you don't want to 29 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: give it all away, but the sort of topics that 30 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: you're doing at this point, well, finishing up everything to 31 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: get ready for this year's game to come out, Madden 32 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: twenty one. As you understand, during the initial days of 33 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: the pandemic, as we all came to a kind of 34 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: a grinding halt, we're making up a ground there. We're 35 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: doing fixes and patches in the game, meaning you'll find 36 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: glitches in the game that the gamers will quickly let 37 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: you know about and you better really get it fixed 38 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: as fast as possible. And that's what we've been working 39 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: on as well. And I'm sure we're already sprinkling in 40 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: some stuff for next year's game to go ahead and 41 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: start getting ready. But you know, we got all the 42 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: rookies now have been drafted, the free agents have changed teams, 43 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: and so for the most part, we have guys in 44 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: the proper places on their rosters. As we head into 45 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: training camp, obviously there'll be trades, cuts, things of that nature, 46 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: but right now we know Tooltunguea Violoa has indeed gone 47 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins, although I don't know we were 48 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: if we thought him going at number five was actually 49 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: going to happen. Right we know that Isaiah Wilson is 50 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: now a Tennessee Titan. So these types of things, you know, 51 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: have to go into the game and people getting ready 52 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: for that. And I can't imagine it's real for these 53 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 1: young guys the first time. Did they get to see 54 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: themselves in this game? Because I would bet the vast 55 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: majority of them have played it growing up and probably 56 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: had visions in their mind, dreams of putting on that 57 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: NFL uniform and being in that game. And it won't 58 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: be long they'll be able to look and see themselves 59 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: in their uniforms playing. It's gonna be pretty cool. Amy, 60 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: would you freak if that were you? Oh my gosh, 61 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: I would lose my mind. But I would also play 62 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: it every single day. I wouldn't. I would just play 63 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: myself on that video game, and I would want to 64 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: hear Charles's commentary every step of the way. All right. 65 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: So he's also on Serious NFL satellite radio that's Channel 66 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: eighty eight. And how often are you on there in 67 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: the offseason? Typically once a week, usually on Thursday nights. 68 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: Occasionally we'll fill in when other people, you know how 69 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: it goes, take vacation or unavailable, that sort of deal. 70 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: But I typically do that from about the time we 71 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: all meet together at the Combine, you know, our annual 72 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: visit it the Combine in Indianapolis. That's when I tend 73 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: to start, and I will roll through until probably about 74 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: mid training camp, and then I get out of it 75 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: for the season. Could I do it, of course, But 76 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: I really like the flexibility during the season of just 77 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: locking in on what we all have to do each week, 78 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: which is getting ready for a game, you know. And 79 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: the serious people have been fantastic with me, and and 80 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: really I appreciate every opportunity that they've given me. So 81 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: you understand, Mike, You've You've had plenty of experience with 82 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: the serious XEM people and doing the radio there, and 83 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: I remember calling you one time. I was like, Mike, 84 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm listening, tell you right, this is so cool. I 85 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: want to do this with you. This is so awesome. 86 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: So you know, here, here we are once again. I'm 87 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: continuing to follow the path you've blazed and it's pretty cool. 88 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: From the serious x M. NFL radio is fantastic. I 89 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: love it. Now are you still doing NFL network stuff 90 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: when they call? But now that the draft is over, 91 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: As a general rule, I'm pretty well done until next year. 92 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: With the run up to the draft and through there. 93 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: There might be an occasional thing they might call me 94 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: for throughout the season, but not nearly like it was 95 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 1: years ago. You remember during that time frame, I would 96 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: do a game, whether it was a college or an 97 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: NFL game, on a Saturday or a Sunday and fly 98 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles and then I'd be in Los Angeles 99 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: work NFL Network Monday, Tuesday, maybe something possibly Wednesday, but 100 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: the general rule Tuesday, catch your red eye flight home, 101 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: and then Thursday or Friday start all over again, going 102 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: to the next city and doing the next game. And 103 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: I did that for about five years, so there's a 104 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: lot of fun. And you know, every time I tell 105 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: that story, I always say to myself, how's that sounding 106 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: to people? Are people hearing that and saying, oh, look 107 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: at you, mister, Oh my god, I had to fly 108 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: everywhere and do all of that. That is certainly not 109 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: the way I want to come across. It's an honor 110 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: for us to get to work. I mean, you know 111 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: that Amy knows that anytime someone asks us to work. 112 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: Are there times when we're tired? Yes? Are there times that, 113 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: oh boy, I had such and such scheduled. We have 114 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: all those things like everyone else has in the world. 115 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: You know, we all have different things. But but I 116 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: don't want anyone to ever think for a second, I 117 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: don't understand. Yeah, we're pretty fortunate, you know, because because 118 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: people are working every single day in a decent number 119 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: of people are doing things they don't want to do. 120 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: We're doing exactly what we want to do, and I 121 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: cherish that. And then of course, back working with the 122 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: Titans an analyst for our preseason television. We are so 123 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: thrilled that you're back. Now. The question, however, is are 124 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: we going to play four preseason games or are we 125 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: going to play two? Preseason gifts. What do you think 126 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: about hearing the first word of that right now? Yeah, 127 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: you know it's it's it's one of those things that 128 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: it stopped chewing your tracks and you first get it. 129 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what exactly you and Amy thought right away, 130 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: but when I heard it, I was like, oh, because 131 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: we look at preseason a little bit differently than I 132 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: believe the general public looks at preseason now, because when 133 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: I was a young whipper snapper, preseason meant a lot. 134 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: There were six preseason games. Now, Amy, there's no way 135 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: you were around fronty of that, okay, but there used 136 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: to be six preseason games, fourteen regular season games, and 137 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: then you got into the playoffs and the six preseason games. 138 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: You were more than likely going to see starters in 139 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: every preseason game in some shape or form. Maybe a 140 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: little bit less in the beginning, but as it went on, 141 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: more and more and more you would see them. Now, 142 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: the sixth game that's when they pull people back, but 143 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: for the most part, you would see starters all the 144 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: way through preseason. It was a different deal. Then as 145 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: we got to the four games in sixteen and other 146 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: things kicked in, it still took a while to get 147 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: to where we are now, where you may not see 148 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: any starters in the preseason, they may be in full 149 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: bubble rap. So to go from four to two for us, 150 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: it's a little bit different because this is part of 151 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: what we do. This is part of our livelihood. And 152 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: now I'm thinking of people who work these games. Think 153 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: of the people at the stadium right who this is 154 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: part of their job and their income. If you cut 155 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: it down to two I'm guessing, right, guys, we'll talk 156 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: about one home game, one road game, right, So they've 157 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: gone from two games to one. Their income gets cut 158 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: in half. If you're working at home. The people who 159 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: are doing the games, whether it's Titans, radio or TV, 160 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: now all those people who are used to working three 161 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: or four games depend on if you get a national 162 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: game or not. That gets shrunk down. So I don't 163 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: want people to hear that and think about us as much, 164 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: and think about everybody else that's involved in putting on 165 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: an event, putting on a game. They're come gets cut 166 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: in half because the preseason you're getting too. Now you're 167 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: getting cut to one. That's my first thought. My second 168 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: thought is I'm not overly surprised. It's been that type 169 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: of the off season with COVID going on. I'm not 170 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm not overly surprised at all, because aren't we kind 171 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: of headed in that direction to begin with, right where 172 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about the day when we know we're gonna 173 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: get cut down on preseason. It just may start earlier 174 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: than we expected. So whether there's two preseason games or 175 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: four preseason games, you will still be working though, Charles, 176 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: because you're now also with CBS Sports. Tell me how 177 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: that CBS opportunity came to be Amy, You know, I 178 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: always to use the words lucky, fortunate, and I hope 179 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: they don't know right after a while because they're real. 180 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: But I was fortunate that, you know, I had fourteen 181 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: terrific years with Fox. I mean I got to do 182 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: a lot of things there, including the BCS National Championship 183 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: games before we got to the College Football playoff you 184 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: know called NFL games, you name it. I had an 185 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: opportunity to do a lot of great things there. But 186 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: my contract was ending at the end of last year, 187 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: and as a free agent, I had an opportunity to 188 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: explore other options if indeed someone was interested in me, 189 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: and as it turned out, I was again fortunate and 190 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: happy that CBS actually had some interest. So that's where 191 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: it came about, Amy, And it all worked out for 192 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: me that CBS had that interest, they had an opportunity 193 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: for them, they hadn't something in mind. And as it 194 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: turned out, you know, Fox, as I said, terrific to 195 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,119 Speaker 1: me for all those years, they gave me an opportunity 196 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: to continue with their their group and continue going. But 197 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: what it was all said and done, it made more 198 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: sense in my opinion, to be with CBS and start 199 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: a new chapter in my life. So I thank Fox. 200 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: I thank them for having the interest in me in 201 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: the first place and still wanting me to be around. 202 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: But I also thank CBS. Of course we're giving me 203 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: this great new place to be, great news start in 204 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: doing something thing that I love to do. And now 205 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: I get to work with a guy by the name 206 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: of I an Eagle and Evan Washingburn works the sidelines. 207 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: And I've been and I'll leave it with this. How 208 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: lucky am I in my career? Amy? These have been 209 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: the play by play people I've worked with at Fox. Okay, 210 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: Tom brennaman college football, Dick Stockton. When I went to 211 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: the NFL, Tom Brennaman again while I was with the 212 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: NFL Gus Johnson. When I went back to college football 213 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: and finished my last few years with Kevin Burkhardt, another 214 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: good one could not be I mean, what person could 215 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: be upset with those played by play people, every single 216 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: one of them phenomenal in what they're doing. I mean, 217 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: Dick Stockton's a hall of famer, a living hall of 218 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: famer for us, you know, so to be able to 219 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: do that, and in these last few years with Kevin 220 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: could not be better. And then what was my landing part? 221 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: Landling spot? I an Eagle? You're kidding me? I met 222 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: I in years of amy. I remember I told a 223 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: friend of mine, Laura Oak, and I said, Hey, if 224 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: I ever had a chance to work with I A 225 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: the Eagle in my career, that would be phenomenal. I've 226 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: realized that was probably ten years ago, and now it's 227 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: come it's actually come to pass. Unbelievable. Have you and 228 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: I and already started doing things together? Have you already 229 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: started the collaboration process. He's been so terrific. Welcomed me 230 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: right away, so did Evan Washburn, so did everyone else 231 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: on the team, you know. Producer Mark Wolfe and director 232 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: Bob Fishman. And we've been doing like I think a 233 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: lot of us have been doing, phone calls, zoom calls, emails, 234 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: getting to know each other, know each other's background, just 235 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: spending time and I think it's been extremely valuable for us. 236 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: And what I've liked about what these guys have done 237 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: and welcoming me in is they didn't bring me in 238 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: and say, Okay, this is how we do a game, 239 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: and this is how we're gonna go over the first quarter. 240 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,599 Speaker 1: We're just meeting each other, similar to the three of 241 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: us talking right now, we've got experience. We've done this 242 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: us for a while. Now we fall into this like that, 243 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: the three of us, we're learning that. Now I'm learning them, 244 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: they're they're learning me. But I consider myself again happy 245 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: and again fortunate. These guys have been extremely welcoming and 246 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: it's been fun. Now you've had the opportunity to start 247 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: that prep process a little bit, and we talked a 248 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: little bit about the preseason, but we are hoping that 249 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: things are still on track for the twenty twenty season 250 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: to start kind of in a regular fashion. In your opinion, 251 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: what is the biggest hurdle that's kind of left to 252 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: clear before we can, maybe with more confidence, say that 253 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: the seasons is going to start on time. You know 254 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: that expression above my head. It is, but only for 255 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: this reason. Our medical experts are going to tell us 256 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: what the big hurdle is. I mean, they're going to 257 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: flat out tell us. And what I love about us 258 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: and I keep referencing the three of us because I 259 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: know that we do the same thing right in terms 260 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: of we prep, we care, we investigate, we do all 261 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: those things. And you guys have been so wonderful to me. 262 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: But let's be honest about it. Whatever the adjustment is, 263 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: we'll be prepared for it right. Whatever it is, and 264 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: how they say we go, how we cover, how we 265 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: we'll do it, that's not a big That part's not 266 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: a big deal. Whether it'll look like gets looked before. 267 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: The medical experts to tell us that and the league 268 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: will listen to them and then they'll emplement how we go. 269 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: So that's the only thing I keep coming back to. 270 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: But whatever it is, it's kind of like remember the 271 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: Titans when when Louis came running into their first being 272 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: a little bit late, and they're like, where do you guy? 273 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: He said, I heard football and I came running, that's 274 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: gonna be the three of us. Well, there's been some 275 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: talk in some other sports that broadcasts like radio and 276 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: TV are going to be done remotely. So do you 277 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: have any experience with that? Do you know what some 278 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: of the challenges may be with broadcasting and you're not 279 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: running into the field, but you're running to a studio 280 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: somewhere to broadcasts. You know. I did some remote games 281 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: for NFL Europe years ago. All right. I went to 282 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: a studio and I think I went to NFL films 283 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: and did games that were in Amsterdam or Barcelona or whatever. 284 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: I don't remember challenges during that time, but it was 285 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: younger in my career, and I was just like, okay, 286 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: great and you just go ahead and do it. The 287 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: rest of it, I couldn't begin to tell you because 288 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: I know whatever is going on out there, everyone behind 289 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: the scenes is going through all the permutations, aren't there. 290 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: They're going through all the possibilities. Shouldn't we try this? 291 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: Should we do that? And again when they tell me, 292 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to do it. But I don't know of 293 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: any major challenges other than, let's be honest about it, 294 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: we're used to being on site We're used to being 295 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: in the fray. We're used to walking into that stadium 296 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: three hours ahead of time and feeling it all unfold 297 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: in front of us rise to a crescendo. If we're 298 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: all going to studios, that part may be a lot 299 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: different for us. But again, we would adjust, and we 300 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: would adapt, and we would do it. But you know, 301 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: being on site with a full crowd is a whole 302 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: different ballgame than than not. We'll just have to see 303 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: if we actually get to that point. This is the OTP, 304 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans, Amy Wells, Mike Keith, 305 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: joined by Tennessee Sports Hall of Famer Charles Davis, who 306 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: is leaving Fox to broadcast for CBS. One more broadcast 307 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: question before I jump into the Titans, Gonna have a 308 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: chance to do other sports, Gonna have a chance to 309 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: do other things for CBS. Do you know yet there's 310 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: a possibility that I might do some do some golf. 311 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: They had mentioned that and with PGA Tour Radio on Thursday, 312 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: with the golf coming, Golf coming back, I'm gonna do 313 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: something with PGA Tour Radio, you know, through CBS, I 314 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: would believe, for about an hour and a half on 315 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: the internet, which is gonna be a lot of fun 316 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: to get my feet wet again and kind of get 317 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: reintroduced to my old PGA tour days, which was a 318 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: whole lot of fun when I was a tournament director 319 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,959 Speaker 1: at Disney. So yeah, Matt might do a little bit 320 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: of that, but again that remains to be seen. And 321 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: you know how that is, Mike and Amy. Bottom line 322 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 1: is they signed me up for football. I'd better do 323 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: my best job with that before I worry about anything else. Well, 324 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: that's true, but you have that background with golf and 325 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: you have such a love for any sport and such 326 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: a great night. I could see you work in the 327 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: nc Double A tournament somehow, and that was a blast. 328 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: I did that, I think for three years and had 329 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: a great time working NCAA tournament and meeting coaches and 330 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: doing interviews and chasing down players after hitting game winners 331 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: and things of that nature. That was a blast. Let's 332 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: talk about some of the newer types. Charles. One of 333 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: the exciting things about you being on CBS, as you're 334 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: going to get to do AFC games, Hopefully we'll see 335 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: a lot of Charles Davis at Nissan State him and 336 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: on the road calling Titans games. But for the last 337 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: few years you've called NFC games, You've seen the Atlanta 338 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: Falcons a lot. Tell us what you think about the 339 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: Titans newest outside linebacker, Vic Beasley. He's one of those 340 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: guys that's just loaded with talent. We saw that in 341 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: what was it the twenty sixteen season, which was the 342 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: monster breakout, you know, when he had fifteen and a 343 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: half sacks. Even more than that, I think he had 344 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: seven fourced fumbles during that time. He was he was 345 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: exactly what you were looking for. You know. You guys 346 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: know nowadays we don't need a ton of bulk to 347 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: play on the defensive side of the vault. Speed, the 348 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: ability to get to the quarterback. That's what made Big 349 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: Beasley Vic Beasley. I think the last couple of years 350 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: for him and in Atlanta, he's been more of a 351 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: hybrid type player where he's had to play on the 352 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: defensive front and maybe drop into coverage a little more 353 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: often than maybe you might expect from that type of 354 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: a player. My guess is that Mike Graybill now have 355 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: a heavier hand in the defense, a second opportunity for 356 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: Vic Beasley in a new spot. He's going to do 357 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: probably brush you in the quarterback that's what this That's 358 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: what they got him for. That was a need for 359 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: Tennessee something to upgrade. And if they can get that 360 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: Vic Beasley back twenty sixteen or approaching those numbers, that's 361 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: that's a big hit for Tennessee because now it allows 362 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: the Jeffrey Simmons of the world to work inside and 363 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: be even more courseful getting up field themselves. From Titans fans, 364 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: I get a lot of questions and Mike Keith, I'm 365 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: sure you did too, about the time second round pick 366 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: Christian Fulton and whether he will be ready to make 367 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: an impact in this Titan secondary as a rookie. Now, Charles, 368 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: you know Dbs, you know Christian Fulton. What do you 369 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: like about him and how he's going to fit in 370 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: with the Titans. Well, what I like is one playing 371 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: in the SEC and dealing with the speed that he 372 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: saw every week. That was a big deal. Next step 373 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: is playing at LSU and dealing with the receivers that 374 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: they put out, because think about it, justin Jefferson, first 375 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: round pick this year, right going to the Minnesota Vikings, 376 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: their number one receiver wasn't eligible to come out this 377 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: year Jamar Chase, he was the bullet and the coff winner. 378 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: I believe in college Roll was the best receiver in 379 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: the country. So those are the types of players he 380 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: has to deal with all the time. You know, worked outside, 381 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: worked inside in the slot. He's really a quieter kid. 382 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: He's not one of those you know, a lot of 383 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: times with dbs and wide receivers, you know, we tend 384 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: to be a little more of the expressive types. So 385 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: he is not really like that in terms of, you know, 386 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: that type of interpersonal and being a little brash and louder. 387 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: He's gonna be much more letting his play do the 388 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: work for him. I think he'll have a very nice 389 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to get his feet wet early and have a 390 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: chance to go in there and play. And I think 391 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: for him, if I'm eyeballing a spot to go, I'm 392 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: thinking hard about going inside and playing that nickel with 393 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: everyone that they've got in the secondary already that can 394 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: command the outside of the Dory and Malcolm and you 395 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: know those guys, I think hard about finding a spot 396 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: there being able to get on the field early. But 397 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: I do think having played at LSU, played for a 398 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: national Championship last year, played more games in the average 399 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: Bear and more big games than the average Bear. That 400 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: helps your transition coming into the NFL. Now, he touched 401 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: on a little a little bit earlier, but I want 402 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: to circle back to it. There's a chance Mike Rabel 403 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 1: could be calling the Titans defense this year. What challenges 404 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: do you see for him if that's a role he 405 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: decides to take on. Well, I think for coach Rabel, 406 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: the challenge is just simply delegating a few more things 407 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: off of his plate in order to get ready to 408 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: be a play caller on the weekend. You know, he's 409 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: not gonna shirt his duties of being the head coach 410 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: in the face of the franchise for Tennessee. You know, 411 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: we're still going to get him in those pressers and 412 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: other things that he's going to have to do. But 413 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: as far as some of the other things that he'll have, 414 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: every head coach has a personal you know, a guy 415 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: next to him, kind of like if you were a 416 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: West Wing fan back in the day, Charlie was the 417 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: body guy for President Bartley. Everybody's got a body guy, 418 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: all right. That body person is going to take a 419 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: few more things off of the play to the head 420 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: coach as well, in order for him to game plan 421 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: spend that time with the defensive staff in order to 422 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: get ready to call that game. If indeed that's the 423 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: direction that he goes. But I don't think that's a 424 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: major problem for a guy like Mike Grabel delegating understanding 425 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: being efficient use of time. He's already done it. Remember 426 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: he's been a decordinator in the league before, So for him, 427 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: that's just going back to his roots and being a 428 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: little more hands on on game day, even though, let's 429 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: face it, over the headset, he's probably been hands on 430 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: on game day anyway, just making the final call, but 431 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: that final call goes through his head headset, so we 432 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: do know he's had a hand in that part of 433 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: it as well. Amy, did he know? Did he know 434 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: that you were a West Wing freak? I was just 435 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: about to say he enhanced this podcast by a million 436 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: percent by making a West Wing reference. I'm done, Like 437 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm out. We peaked, had no idea. You're best fan 438 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: favorite show at the Universe, hands down. We're gonna have 439 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: a conversation about this later, Charles. You're coming back for 440 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: the West Wing edition of the ONTP I'm excited about 441 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: that because I still remember the first episode when President 442 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: Barla Belle off the bicycle and got hurt and everybody 443 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: wants to know who potus is. Oh, I could do 444 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: And then of course by the time it was over, 445 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: he realized that everybody hadn't really been doing their thing. 446 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: And that's when we learned vacations over, everybody get back 447 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: to work. And we saw that repeated over the years 448 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: on the West Wing. Oh, this is making me so happy. 449 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: This is not the West Wing podcast. Amy listens to 450 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: a West Wing podcast. This is actually the OTP presented 451 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: by Far Bureau Health Plans. Don't get sacked by the 452 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: high cost of healthcare. Make Far Bureau Health Plans your 453 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: first line of protection. They've been protecting Tennessee and since 454 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: nineteen forty seven. I want to jump ahead and I 455 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: want to talk offense. We've been talking defense. What excites you, 456 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: Charles Davis about the Titans offense heading into twenty twenty 457 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: if they understand who they are and they're not worried 458 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: about Okay, do we have to change this? Do we 459 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: have to change that? Of course you're going to add wrinkles. 460 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: Of course you're going to play off of some of 461 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: your success before. Of course you're going to say, okay, 462 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: do we really want to run Derrick Henry every single 463 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: time we snapped the football. Those things are going to 464 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: come up and they're going to look at that and 465 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: tweak it. But when you look at their draft and 466 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: what John Robinson did and said, Okay, this is who 467 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: we are, where's our need and where do we have 468 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: to plug in? Jack conchlind goes to the Browns. Isaiah 469 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: Wilson gets drafted in the first round. Now, the three 470 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 1: of us know that if you go back through the 471 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: mock drafts of the so called experts, even though you know, 472 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: I guess I would quote unquote counting that you and 473 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: Amy were counting that. But around the league, right we 474 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: all had, you know, mock drafts one, two, three to 475 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: four or five, whatever it was, pick the top people 476 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: that we saw out there. How many times did you 477 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: see Isaiah Wilson in the first round? Now, the answer 478 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: to me was probably zero up until probably the week 479 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: of the draft. And then you know how you get 480 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: closer to the draft and things start to leak out 481 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: a little bit, and you know, people hear different things 482 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: and they connect a few more dots and he started 483 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: to get a little more love closer to the draft. 484 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: But all in all, Isaiah Wilson wasn't on very many 485 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: mock drafts. People respected his ability, but they didn't see 486 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: another tackle going in that first round. The reason I 487 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: bring that up is John Robinson and crew were like, look, 488 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: we don't care what you people think. We care what 489 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: we think. We care what it's good for our team, 490 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: how we evaluate it, how we're going to go ahead 491 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: and do things. And by the way, this guy is 492 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: a Mahler brawler in the run game. That's where we 493 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: make our living. Hello, Isaiah Wilson, welcome to Tennessee. Do 494 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: the things we saw on tape at the University of 495 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: Georgia and better and we're gonna be just fine, young man. 496 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: Plug in and go. And then you continue to add 497 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: off of that offense, right, you continue to develop Ryan 498 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: Tannehill at the quarterback position and what he gave. Obviously, 499 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry's there, but one of my favorite picks was 500 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: Darrenton Evans. Okay, the kid out of Appalachian State. I mean, 501 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: you talk about getting into my heart and me going yes, 502 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: that's the perfect type of a guy. Change up guy. 503 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: Forget that third down back stuff. This kid is a 504 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: running back, but he's going to give you those extra plays, 505 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: just like we had thought about Dion Lewis being here previously. 506 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: That's what he's gonna do. Plus, he can bring a 507 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: game open if you want to make a mckickreturner as well, 508 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: plug independ state tape and watch him go. All right, 509 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: So let's talk about Jadeveon Clowney for a second. Titans 510 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: fans have been talking about Jadevian Clowney for months. Maybe 511 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: a free agent that the Titans add, Maybe not, maybe 512 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: he goes somewhere else. So two part question, what do 513 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: you think's going on with Jenevian Clowney right now? And 514 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: number two for the team that adds him, what does 515 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: he add to your defensive scheme that makes you different 516 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: and special? I think that for Jadevion Clowney and what's 517 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: going on with him now, with no conversation with him, 518 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: no one in his camp outside observer, I think he's 519 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: got to get comfortable with the idea that the money 520 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: he had hoped to make he might not make. In fact, 521 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: it looks like he's not going to come close to 522 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: making that kind of money. I'm sure he was looking 523 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: for that top defensive end type of a contract and 524 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: it's has not been there. No one's come close to 525 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: showing him, you know, for Jerry McGuire and crew, no 526 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: one showing him that kind of money so far. So 527 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: he's got to get comfortable with that idea that, Okay, 528 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: am I gonna come down sign a one year or 529 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: two year maybe lesser money, try and make it up later. 530 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: All those things have to come into play. The second 531 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: part with that is where can I go to show 532 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: those talents in order to get that money, whether it's 533 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: with that team I signed with or the ability to 534 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: jump somewhere else after having signed with them. Well, look, 535 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: if you're a Tennessee Titans fan, you're going this is 536 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: a spot man. There's a screaming need for pass rusher 537 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: right here in Nashville. You'll be plugging play right away. 538 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: You'll be counted on to be that guy. Yes, Vic 539 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: Beasley got signed in the off season, Yes, Harold Landry 540 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: is here, but Jadevi and Clowney shows up. This is 541 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: your chance, man, This is a great spot. Plus, you're 542 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: going to a team that went to the NC Championship. 543 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: Game last year, and in your own division, you get 544 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: a chance to go against Houston twice who you used 545 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: to be with. Go chase down Philip Rivers in Indianapolis 546 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: and go get a young Gardner Minshew in Jacksonville. Not 547 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: a bad place to go hunt it. So that part 548 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: works out well. The second part of this for him 549 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:21,239 Speaker 1: is over time. All we talk about is athleticism, right, 550 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: because it is breathtaking. You guys remember when what was 551 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: four to six six at the combine and almost Dion 552 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: Sanders and just went out the door and we never 553 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 1: saw him again. He was number one picking the entire draft. 554 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: We remember the big play against was Vincent Smith from 555 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: from Michigan in the ballgame, right, we all remember that. 556 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: I was talking with Alex Boone, the former offensive lineman 557 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: with the Vikings and Arizona Cardinals. He said he played 558 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: against Clowney and he said two things. Consistency, which is 559 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: part of it. Is he bringing it every play every down. Heck, 560 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: forget every play. Can you get forty great plays out 561 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: of out of sixty snaps? If you do that, that's 562 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: pretty good. You gonna get some big play. But he said, 563 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: underrated is his ability to play the run. He said, 564 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: Jadevidanwy's not just a pass rusher. He talked about one 565 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: play that he was like thinks with Minnesota. He said, 566 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: they're guard pulled and there's a trap play and Clowney's like, 567 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna deal with this trap all day long, 568 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: and he said he hit the guard with a forearm 569 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: in the chest and knocked him out. He said, the 570 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: guards done finished game day day over. He has that 571 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: type of breath physical ability that you're which is part 572 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: of the problem because you see it and you're like, 573 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: I want that every play. Well, it may not be 574 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: possible every play, so we fall back on well, he's 575 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: not giving it to man. I don't know about all 576 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: that part that I'm gonna leave that to the scouts 577 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: and the person to tell people. But I do know 578 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: consistencies the deal. Because let's just go back to last year. 579 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: Was it a Monday night against San Francisco he wore 580 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: them out their first loss, yep. Was there a better 581 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: defensive end in the league that night? The answer is no, absolutely. Now, 582 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: he wrecked the game. We use that term all the time, 583 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: probably more than we should. He wrecked that game for 584 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: San Francisco and the rest of the season. Everybody kept 585 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: waiting for more of that, but he was in an 586 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: aval line up with some injuries, some other things that 587 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: went on. And here's the thing to remember. For all 588 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 1: his breathtaking gifts, the highest number of sacks and then 589 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: season for him is nine and a half, which absolutely 590 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: shocks you because you think he's a double digit guy 591 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: each and every year. But he has to be on 592 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: the field in order to do that. But look, if 593 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: it's a friendly contract, then Tennessee can get him for that. 594 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: I would run there myself, and I think John Robinson 595 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: would do exactly that if indeed it could fit within 596 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: their cap. It's a friendly contract for the team, he's 597 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: not going to get the kind of money he was 598 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: looking for. And when this whole thing began, are there 599 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: other agents that are still on the market that could 600 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: have that same level of impact for a team? I 601 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: think there are very few left when we're talking about that, amy, 602 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: when we're talking about who those free agents are, because 603 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: now we're really into quarterbacks, aren't we We're really into 604 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: is you know, how's Cam Newton not out there somewhere 605 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: running someone's team. And it is really blown me away 606 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: because I'm like, okay, let me get this straight. The 607 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: NFL MVP from just a few seasons ago, remember in Nashville, 608 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: helped cause a ker fluffle because he you know, the 609 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: time he's spent in the end zone and next thing 610 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, we're having a national debate about how long 611 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: you get to celebrate and all the other stuff. He's 612 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: not signed anywhere, and it looks like we're gonna have 613 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: to get into training camp and see where an opportunity 614 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: comes up if the starter goes down all those things, 615 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: which really really is stunning for guy visibilities. We're falling 616 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: back on the injury thing and in COVID times, you know, 617 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: the pandemic, we can't you know, get the physicals, do 618 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: all the things we're looking for. So we'll see how 619 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: that part plays out. But he's going to be the 620 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: big one. And obviously, you know, when when you're looking 621 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: out there for other players, I think Amy is going 622 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: to be in training camp time. You know, maybe a 623 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: guy we're wondering if he can play one more year. 624 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: That team may decide he can't, but he may fit 625 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: somewhere else for someone. We'll just have to see how 626 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: it plays out. Right now, the biggest news in the 627 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: NFL mirrors the biggest news in the world, and obviously 628 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: that's talking about dealing with social injustice. So through the 629 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: conversation that has gone on over the last two weeks, 630 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: what are the most important things you have heard and 631 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: are hearing right now? Charles Davis, Well, for me, the 632 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: consistency is the word listen. The consistent word, I should say, 633 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: has been the word listen. And it works every which way. 634 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: It is not just you listen to this group, or 635 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: you know they listen to you. It's all over the place, 636 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: all of us. It's like us having this conversation. Now 637 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: you ask me a question, I have to listen to 638 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: that question to give you a good answer. When I 639 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: throw something in there about the west Wind, Amy heard 640 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: that and reacted because she was listening. We have to 641 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: do that on the biggest scale we've ever had. But 642 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: it's hard to listen and not be defensive, not wall 643 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: things off. If we hear something we didn't want to hear, 644 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: if we hear something that makes us uncomfortable, which is 645 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: the word we use all the time, which means that's 646 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: not me, that's someone else, you know, that's not this, 647 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: And all of us have to be able to drop 648 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: those defenses a little bit and find out what it 649 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: is that that person's talking about. You know, my parents, 650 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: I was so lucky to have the parents i've had. 651 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: I lost my mom four years ago. My dad's still 652 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: with me. But one thing they talked about with me 653 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: growing up is you're going to encounter issues. You're going 654 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: to just look at who you are, and that's just 655 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: there's just no way in this world a black person 656 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: is not going to have some issues along the way. 657 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: It's going to be associated with the color of their 658 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: sk in. Now, is that going to paralyze you to 659 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: the point where you're going to just stop at that 660 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 1: point and I can't do anything or whatever. We're gonna 661 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: figure out other ways. Achievement was the word they talked 662 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: about all the time. How do you achieve how do 663 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: you push through? How do you tend to tend to 664 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: fight through all these things? Have that achievement? Treat people 665 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: as well as you as you expect to be treated. 666 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: And if you don't receive that back, figure out why, 667 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: how whatever, and keep moving because that's just we're not 668 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,959 Speaker 1: gonnall like each other, and it's not always because of race. 669 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: I just may not like the sound of your voice. 670 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: You may hate the sound of mine, you may not 671 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: like the shirt ey war. It could be any of 672 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: those things. But if we listened to each other a 673 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: lot more, Mike and Amy, I just think that we 674 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: have a better chance. But it's really hard because we 675 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: all come hardwired and bring our own experiences with us, 676 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: and sometimes those walls. It takes a while for us 677 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,479 Speaker 1: to let those go and trust somebody else with someone 678 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: else when they tell us something about ourselves we may 679 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: not want to hear, or we may not have observed 680 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: in ourselves. And a lot of times you get, oh, 681 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: that's what you said to me, Well, let me tell 682 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: you about you, and we hit back instead of going hum, 683 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: let me contemplate that, okay, and how do I bring 684 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: that message to that person in a better way so 685 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: we actually continue to listen to each other. So it's hard, 686 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's really really hard, and I'm not about 687 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 1: to be Pollyanna about it. We are in a really 688 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: tough spot right now, we really are. And you know, 689 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: for anyone in this world, if you can't see yourself 690 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: or someone that you know being in George Floyd's position, 691 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: and you can take everything else out of it all right, 692 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: whatever happened in George Floyd's past, whatever happened, and putting 693 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: him in that position there, the end result never should 694 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 1: have happened. The end result should never happen. We've seen 695 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: mass murderers treated better, killing Root in South Carolina, killing 696 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: all those people in the church, gets walked out, didnt 697 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: see a scratched, didn't see it, issued, didn't see whatever. 698 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying there should have been. The right 699 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: way was to arrest toe me getting out of there. 700 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: But if that can happen, normal stop normal. You know, 701 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: arrest ends in a person being dead because someone was 702 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: callously didn't care about their life. That doesn't make any sense. 703 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: So I just think that the dast majority of people 704 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: you me Amy No, would look at that and go 705 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: that's not right. And now here's our chance to start 706 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: making it right in the future. And I think we 707 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: got to keep working together on that. From the listening 708 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: standpoint and the instructive standpoint. As painful as it was 709 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: for all involved, will the Drew Brees New Orleans Saints 710 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: situation end up being as good a lesson that comes 711 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: out of the NFL as we might have. And I'm 712 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: talking about the whole seventy two hour process of it. Yeah, 713 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: I think so in a lot of ways, because, like 714 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: an Aim, I'm of the opinion that if someone is 715 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: truly trying to help, if they say the wrong thing 716 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: or it doesn't come across the right way or whatever, 717 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: if that person has had a history of doing the 718 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: right things, am I gonna want to cast them aside 719 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: at that moment because of one comment? Probably not, That's 720 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: just the way I'm built. I want to hear more 721 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: about it. For Drew, look, being in that locker room 722 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: and not understanding what the message was trying to come 723 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: across and equating it again with kneeling in the flag 724 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: and all, that was a mistake. But when they had 725 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: the zoom call and his teammates got with him and 726 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: the reaction and whatever, you've heard, his teammates come out 727 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: and say, we hear Drew, we take him at his word, 728 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: we respect him, We're moving forward because it's not like 729 00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: Drew Brees didn't try and help a whole lot of 730 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: people along the way. I mean, who are we kidding? Right, 731 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: go back and look at the track record. It's really impressive. 732 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: Does that absolve him of the comment. No, but he's 733 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: acknowledged that. He acknowledged that to the world multiple times now. 734 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: When people say, Okay, let's see how he's gonna walk 735 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: the walk, I was like, he's walked it already. I 736 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: think he'll keep walking it. I don't. I don't worry 737 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: about him. Those are types of things that for me, 738 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: I want to see happen. I do know a number 739 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: of people have said, ah, done, definitely. How could he 740 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: say that. That's not where I sit, Mike, That's not 741 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: where I sit, Amy, That's not how I go about it. 742 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you can say anything, and I'm gonna 743 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: give you you know, and we're gonna get there. But 744 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: if I know who you are before, I'm not about to. Okay, 745 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: this was that comment. Let's find out what was driving it. 746 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: Do you stand with that. Let's go from here, okay, 747 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: and look where they are now. I think the Saints 748 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: are much healthier because of it, and they'll move forward. 749 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: And the beauty for that is, in high school, your 750 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: head coach is probably involved in that. Right in college, 751 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: your head coach is probably involved in that. The NFL 752 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: the scenes pretty much took it upon themselves as a 753 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: locker room before Sean Payton and crew had even bother 754 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: to get involved, not that they wouldn't have. I'm just 755 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 1: saying these are grown men having grown man discussions. People discussions, 756 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: adult human being discussions. Remember the words we used, uncomfortable listening. 757 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: They'd listen to all sides, you know. And I'm sure 758 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: when Drew Brees had those conversations with guys, they may 759 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,439 Speaker 1: have heard some things from him that maybe they had 760 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: to take stock of. I don't know that this was 761 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: just a one way street, even though it might be 762 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: painted that way, But it seems to me that that's 763 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: a healthy locker room. They found a way to negotiate 764 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: and maneuver through that, and I'd be surprised if we 765 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of healthy locker rooms across the NFL. 766 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,919 Speaker 1: I think a lot of these people will be able 767 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: to do that, and I hope that we can use 768 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: some of those locker rooms as models for the rest 769 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: of our society. Last question, what needs to happen in 770 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: the National Football League in the coming weeks and months 771 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: that can make a positive difference in all of society 772 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: when it comes to social injustice. I just think in 773 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: a lot of ways, I don't want to come off 774 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: polly animight, because that's just the worst thing that can 775 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: do right now. But a lot of things have been 776 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 1: said in the past, a lot of things have been 777 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: floated in the past, ideas how we can do things 778 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: better that may not have been heard before, that may 779 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 1: have been rejected before, may not have been implemented before. 780 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 1: I think we've got a chance to do that now, 781 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: I really do. And I think that those are the 782 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: things that we will see. I just hope we don't 783 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: get caught up in the whole idea of well, let's 784 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: see what happens on opening day, whether people are gonna, 785 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,919 Speaker 1: you know, kneel or what. It's way bigger than that, 786 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: way bigger than that. And actually had someone say to 787 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: me the other day, someone I really really respect, like, 788 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if whatever gesture the players and the 789 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: teams come up with, if you make sure it's not 790 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 1: right there at the anthem so that no one gets 791 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: confused anymore about the flag. Well, people who have said 792 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: that they would get with things as long as it 793 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: doesn't can you get involved? That would they now get involved? 794 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: It's a thought. I'm not sure we'll get there. We'll 795 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 1: see how everyone decides to do it, but I still 796 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: want everybody get caught up with that's the only conversation. 797 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: It's a much bigger deal than that. How do we 798 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: make things better? Continue to make things better? And I 799 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 1: think we got a lot of people who are trying 800 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: to get that done. I mean, I do have optimism 801 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: that way. My heart hurts right now for our country. 802 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: But I will say this, the next time I hear 803 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: someone tell me we live in unprecedented times, I'm gonna 804 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: be like, hold on a second, because I've already done 805 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: it with people. Unprecedented. You have what history of did 806 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 1: you watch in the United States? In a lot of 807 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: take race out of it? How did the United States 808 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: get started? Revolution that unfortunately ended up violent? Right, But 809 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: that's how we had to get our independence and start 810 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: as a nation. And we've had these things happen and 811 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: bubble all the way through. So when they say unprecedented, 812 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: I was like, you're missing that. It's not unprecedented. But 813 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: this is our flashpoint? Is this our chance to jump 814 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: off and actually get better? That's what I'm looking for. 815 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: Let's use this timeframe making a jump off point for 816 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: our country and all of us find a way to 817 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: get better. And the first person I'm looking as a guy, 818 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: look at it in the mirror every morning. I have 819 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: to be better. How's to start here? Everyone looks at it. 820 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: That's what it's about. The defensiveness. Oh, you're telling me 821 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: what I have to do all the time. Yeah, but 822 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: I'm telling myself, I'm part of I'm part of the deal. 823 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,240 Speaker 1: So I want to be part of the solution. Please 824 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: let me be part of that. Tennessee Sports Hall of Famer, 825 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: former Tennessee volunteer broadcaster for Fox Now for CBS PRECS 826 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,280 Speaker 1: in television with the Tennessee Titans. You are a friend 827 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: and a gentleman and a scholar. And Amy Wells and 828 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: I thank you so much for joining us Charles Davis 829 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: on this edition of the OTP. Yeah, I thank you 830 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: and Amy Wells and the Tennessee Titans. And can't wait 831 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: for all this to get started again when we're back 832 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: out on the field and all of us get together 833 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: and talk ball and talk Titans and talk season. So 834 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it, and thank you both of 835 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: you and everyone else is watching. Please stay safe. You 836 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: know everything's going on in this world. COVID still out there. 837 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: Please stay safe. Healthy, Let's not forget what's led us 838 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: do where we are today in a lot of ways, 839 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: and the rest of it. Let's let's get better as 840 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: a people, let's get better as a nation. And I 841 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 1: want to be a part of that. For Charles Davis 842 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: and Amy Wells, Mike Keith says, thanks for joining us. 843 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 1: Presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans, this has been the 844 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: team