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Speaker 1: How are you. I'm doing good? Hey, how are you doing? Man?
Speaker 1: It's almost draft week? It's almost draft week for a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks away. You've had some exciting personal news.
Speaker 1: The congratulations to you. How are you in the new family?
Speaker 1: I'm good man. Yeah, jumped the broom yesterday, so feeling
Speaker 1: good man. Stealing marital bliss marital marital blisses, they would say, So,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm walking on cloud nine. But you are
Speaker 1: one of the most hard working guys in this business.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna take a honeymoon at some point? We're
Speaker 1: recording one day after you put the ring on? Everybody
Speaker 1: says that, man, my wife knows who she married, and
Speaker 1: she knew that the draft was coming up. We agreed
Speaker 1: to go in mid May. So we're gonna take our
Speaker 1: honeymoon and in May. Good stuff. She's a real one.
Speaker 1: Many blessings to you, guys, and I know you're gonna
Speaker 1: have great adventures ahead. Speaking of adventures, what is it
Speaker 1: like for you as far as your draft preparation because
Speaker 1: the one thing that really always stands out to me
Speaker 1: is that you love to watch guys in person. Tape
Speaker 1: is very important, but you like getting on the road
Speaker 1: and watching guys do it in front of you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my draft prep starts doing the fall EA. And I'm
Speaker 1: blessed to call college football, so I actually get a
Speaker 1: leg up on a lot of these things compared to
Speaker 1: other guys breaking down the draft because I actually get
Speaker 1: to see a lot of these guys up close and personal.
Speaker 1: So being able to call college games, I get to
Speaker 1: see up close and personal where it's you know, pre game,
Speaker 1: down on the field or calling the game live. You
Speaker 1: get to see, you know, some physical presence of guys.
Speaker 1: You know, we were talking about this earlier, Darnell right right.
Speaker 1: You see the physicality on hey, But it's totally different
Speaker 1: when I went to the Senior Bowl and I got
Speaker 1: to see it at field level. Being on the field
Speaker 1: and seeing this guy dominate guys left and right. It's
Speaker 1: a whole different field when you get to see it
Speaker 1: up close and personal. I'm glad you mentioned Darnel right
Speaker 1: last year we were both in mobile. Robert Sala, of
Speaker 1: course and his staff were coaching up those guys, as
Speaker 1: were the Detroit Lions. Both those teams, I would argue
Speaker 1: two of the NFL's biggest surprises. The Jets would have
Speaker 1: been in the playoffs last season had they not fallen
Speaker 1: apart down the stretch, largely due to injury. And Detroit
Speaker 1: really made a number of great strides. But last year
Speaker 1: you came out of Mobile. I'll never forget this talking
Speaker 1: up Jermaine Johnson, and now you're talking up a guy
Speaker 1: on the other side of the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 1: Darnel right, Yeah, definitely, Jermaine Johnson was my favorite player
Speaker 1: in Mobile. A matter of fact, he dominated so well
Speaker 1: the first two days. Decided to leave because I think
Speaker 1: that could have helped. That happened with him hurt his
Speaker 1: draft stock after that. Darnell Wright technically could have did
Speaker 1: the same thing this year. EA, But that shows what
Speaker 1: type of competitor is not the Jermaine isn't. Right. You
Speaker 1: gotta make smart business decisions. If you feel like you're
Speaker 1: at the pinnacle of where you could be draft at
Speaker 1: his wise, why put yourself in harm's away? And Jamaine
Speaker 1: Johnson was smart and he left Mobile. Darnell Wright, right,
Speaker 1: I think coming into Mobile, a lot of people saw
Speaker 1: him maybe as a second third round pick. I think
Speaker 1: after Mobile and then going back and rewatching the tape
Speaker 1: and getting some affirmations, I would not be surprised this
Speaker 1: guy's a top fifteen pick in this draft. Honestly, some
Speaker 1: talent evaluators and guys I've talked to have him as
Speaker 1: a number one tackle, you know, in this draft class.
Speaker 1: And you can see why. Right the physicality that he
Speaker 1: brings now he struggled the year before playing at left tackle.
Speaker 1: I think he's more naturally built for the right side.
Speaker 1: He's more dominant on that right side. And then if
Speaker 1: you turn on the film right versus Trey Von Walker,
Speaker 1: you know, two years ago and then this past year
Speaker 1: verst Will Anderson, who people cansider the best prospect in
Speaker 1: his draft class, he put them in the blender EA,
Speaker 1: like it was almost like they weren't even at the game.
Speaker 1: That's how dominant this guy is. Like, if you put
Speaker 1: your best rusher on his side, he can make them disappear.
Speaker 1: And that's essentially what he did for the Tennessee Balls,
Speaker 1: and then again at the Senior Bowl, where you know
Speaker 1: you get some of the best players in the nation
Speaker 1: dominated there too, had some really good battles with Will
Speaker 1: McDonald from Iowa State, who a lot of people consider
Speaker 1: to be a probably a better pro prospect than College,
Speaker 1: had a lot of production two years ago in the
Speaker 1: year before that. They kind of switched their scheme up
Speaker 1: this year in Iowa State and kind of had him
Speaker 1: reduced head up on the tackle. That's not what he's
Speaker 1: gonna be doing in the NFL. It's gonna be coming
Speaker 1: off the edge of Russian They had a lot of
Speaker 1: good battles Ea, and I think both of those guys
Speaker 1: that ultimately probably end up in the first round if
Speaker 1: the Jet stew indeed keep that thirteenth overall selection, which
Speaker 1: we believe they will. Many pundits think that ultimately it's
Speaker 1: gonna come down to the best tackle available. Is that
Speaker 1: the way you view it right now, And also connected
Speaker 1: the Jets current landscape at the position he's Dwayne Brown
Speaker 1: basically toughted out all year. He could have took a
Speaker 1: payjack and he was playing on one arm. Unbelievable season
Speaker 1: from my vanished point. McKay Beckton, he's been on social
Speaker 1: media showing people the work that he's put into Shredded
Speaker 1: body throughout throughout the off season, and then the Jets
Speaker 1: were really happy about where Max Mitchell was at because
Speaker 1: when they drafted him in the forced rown last year,
Speaker 1: they were talking about, hey, this is more of a
Speaker 1: developmental player. He was forced in the starting lineup and
Speaker 1: they liked the play they got out of him. So
Speaker 1: can you talk about these tackles in the draft and
Speaker 1: also where the Jets are at the position? Yeah, before
Speaker 1: we get into that ear, I would like to go
Speaker 1: ahead and give Joe d some love because I know
Speaker 1: he was kind of under scrutiny right because of what
Speaker 1: happened at the tackle position. But if you're a GM,
Speaker 1: what more can you do? Right? You literally brought into
Speaker 1: Wayne Brown, right, who was a parent of a pro
Speaker 1: bowler because McKay Beckton got her. George Fant was a
Speaker 1: guy I played at a high level of the year before,
Speaker 1: and you drafted Max Mitchell. So you had four guys
Speaker 1: for two spots and all four got hurt. So what
Speaker 1: can you do in that scenario? If you're Joe Douglass,
Speaker 1: So you want to give him a shout out because
Speaker 1: we know that Joe Douglass likes to build his teams
Speaker 1: from the trenches back right, and he tried to do
Speaker 1: his best to make sure he had enough players for
Speaker 1: those two spots, but all four got hurt. And then
Speaker 1: a guy that they took in the first round the
Speaker 1: year before that, Elijah Vera Tucker, who I think it'd
Speaker 1: be a perennial All Pro at guard. He moved out
Speaker 1: to left tackle and look really well, and then he
Speaker 1: got hurt. So it's like, what do you do? So
Speaker 1: if you're looking at this draft, right, I think they
Speaker 1: are gonna go off of to Tagle. We don't know
Speaker 1: what d Wayne Brown is gonna ultimately do. Is he
Speaker 1: gonna come back and play another year? I think I know.
Speaker 1: Last time, you know, I talked to Robert Salad and
Speaker 1: the last time Robert solid at the press conference, he
Speaker 1: says they're working through that right now, right mcay Beckton,
Speaker 1: to your point, EA looks really good, but the injury
Speaker 1: history is there, right, he hasn't been available. Max Mitchell
Speaker 1: looked really good and then he ended up getting hurt
Speaker 1: and had to sit out for the rest of the
Speaker 1: year due to some untimely circumstances when it came to health, right,
Speaker 1: So it was tough for that kid. It suck for
Speaker 1: him because he's playing really well too for a fourth
Speaker 1: rown pick to be thrust into the starting lineup, But
Speaker 1: I don't think that was the plan coming into the season.
Speaker 1: So now you look at it like this, does Dwayne
Speaker 1: Brown come back? If? Yes, all right, we got some debt, right,
Speaker 1: McKay Beckton's there, Max Mitchell. We have three guys hopefully
Speaker 1: that can stay healthy and play. I think you still
Speaker 1: got to add an offensive tackle for the future, right
Speaker 1: because the Wayne Brown's on his last year. You gotta
Speaker 1: figure out what you're gonna do with McCay Beckton in
Speaker 1: the fifth year option. You're probably not gonna pick it up.
Speaker 1: So essentially he could be free after this year as well.
Speaker 1: So you talk about not having any depth at the
Speaker 1: offensive tackle position, being right back where you were last year.
Speaker 1: So as you break it down, Paris Johnson, to me,
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle from Ohio State is the best pure
Speaker 1: left tackle on this draft. Now, he does have flexibility
Speaker 1: because he played guard all last year and before that
Speaker 1: before moving to left tackle, but as far as just
Speaker 1: pure left tackle, I think he's the best in his draft.
Speaker 1: Peter Scronsky, I don't think he's a left tackle in
Speaker 1: the League, even though he played that at Northwestern. I
Speaker 1: think he's better student to play right tackle. People talked
Speaker 1: about his arm length. I think it'd be a really
Speaker 1: good guard as well too. But I think if you
Speaker 1: really play at right tackle and be good, and then
Speaker 1: if you need him to move into guard, I think
Speaker 1: they won't be any fall off if he does move
Speaker 1: into guard. A lot of people have already penciled him
Speaker 1: in at guard at the next level because of the
Speaker 1: arm length and that being a concern right and if
Speaker 1: you look at some of the people that have given
Speaker 1: them issues before, some longer length, you know, defensive ents
Speaker 1: if he struggled with so I mean maybe that's the
Speaker 1: issue when you come when it comes to arm length
Speaker 1: and Peter Scronsky Roderick Jones to me, EA has the
Speaker 1: highest ceiling out of everybody. I mean the athletic ability
Speaker 1: that he has. A lot of people have penciled him
Speaker 1: in at thirteen to the Jets, which makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense because he does have the flexibility to play
Speaker 1: left or right tackle. So say Dwayne Brown does come back,
Speaker 1: you could play him at the right tackle. I think
Speaker 1: he maybe can even play some guard too, But I
Speaker 1: think he's a guy that you know coming out has
Speaker 1: a higher ceiling than Andrew Thomas. And we saw Andrew
Speaker 1: Thomas take a big leap this last year and he's
Speaker 1: a really good tackle. But I think Roderick Jones could
Speaker 1: be even better. Let's not forget he's young, EA kids,
Speaker 1: twenty one years old, he has a lot of room
Speaker 1: to grow, so I think he could be. He could be.
Speaker 1: As far as having the highest setling out of the
Speaker 1: all four, I think it's him. And then talking about
Speaker 1: the most physically dominant tackle, it's without a doubt Darnell
Speaker 1: right right, I mean struggled last year at left tackle,
Speaker 1: moved the right tackle and was all a world this year.
Speaker 1: We talked about it. Some of the guys he's face,
Speaker 1: Will Anderson made him disappear on film, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people have Will Anderson as a number one prospect
Speaker 1: in this draft. Right, you talk about Trayvon Walker who
Speaker 1: went number one overall last year, ate his lunch too,
Speaker 1: So like, this is a guy that can be physically
Speaker 1: dominant and then he's gonna make your run game leap
Speaker 1: from day one. So if you're looking for somebody to
Speaker 1: come in and jump start your run game, look no
Speaker 1: further than Darnelle, right. I think Douglas continues to be
Speaker 1: crafty and free agency, most recently with the signing of
Speaker 1: Quentin Jefferson and a guy who played well in Seattle
Speaker 1: last season, I believe a career high in sacks five
Speaker 1: and a half sacks. So you'll add him to the
Speaker 1: rotation because defensive tackle certainly a need after Sheldon Rankin's
Speaker 1: departs in free agency too, got a nice deal with
Speaker 1: Damiko Ryan's in Houston. As they try to rebuild that thing,
Speaker 1: they kick get strained, Nathan Shepherd now in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas back, but so they add Jefferson. But the
Speaker 1: reason why I bring him up is do you think
Speaker 1: the Jets, possibly on the other side of the ball,
Speaker 1: could add a center before the draft so that they
Speaker 1: don't have to go into the draft with that immediate need. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. They've been linked with Ben Jones right now.
Speaker 1: They think about Ben Jones. He's tough, right, he ate
Speaker 1: toughest nails glass eater, but he's been banged up and
Speaker 1: he's older, right, So that's a concern when you look
Speaker 1: at it from that standpoint, because the Jets had so
Speaker 1: many injuries last year on the office line. If you
Speaker 1: bring in the Aaron Rodgers, who's an older quarterback, I
Speaker 1: mean it's passer rating when he's had a clean pocket
Speaker 1: his night and day from and he hasn't had a
Speaker 1: clean pocket. So like you want to make sure you
Speaker 1: have some continuity on offensive line, you want to make
Speaker 1: sure that you can line up all five pieces for
Speaker 1: the majority of the season. And Ben Jones has had
Speaker 1: some issues. So I think whether they bring Brent Jones
Speaker 1: in or not, EA, I would not be surprised if
Speaker 1: they sell address center in this draft. I don't know
Speaker 1: what round it would be, maybe four, second round. We'll see.
Speaker 1: Right now, they got those two twos, I don't know
Speaker 1: what they'll do. Who knows how things shake out, Say
Speaker 1: top the top four officive tackles are off the board
Speaker 1: at thirteen to the Jets trade back and get some
Speaker 1: more draft capital, right, that could be an option as well.
Speaker 1: So I could see them addressing that, you know, center,
Speaker 1: because I think that's more of a need right now,
Speaker 1: especially with the signing of Quintin Jefferson than defensive tackle. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't get it twisted, right, with the way this
Speaker 1: defensive line rotates, you definitely need another defensive tackle to
Speaker 1: put in there with Quinnon Williams, right, because Quintin Jefferson,
Speaker 1: for all intents of purposes, is more of a pass
Speaker 1: rush guy on third down. He's a guy that can
Speaker 1: give you some five technique reps. But I mean the
Speaker 1: Jets are deep at defensive end. They don't need enough
Speaker 1: the guy that can line up outside and you know,
Speaker 1: play on the rundowns. Jefferson can play in at the
Speaker 1: three technique on rundowns, but he's more of a pass
Speaker 1: rushing three techniques. So I think they need another guy
Speaker 1: that could be stout inside with Quinny Williams, but also
Speaker 1: has the ability to get up the field and recab it.
Speaker 1: It depends on what they do in the second round. Right.
Speaker 1: Keano Betton as a guy I really liked from Wisconsin
Speaker 1: out of Tama while out of Bare from Northwestern's another
Speaker 1: guy that if he fostered the second round, makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense because they fit the philosophy that Robert
Speaker 1: Salo likes. Right foot speed and strain. Both of those
Speaker 1: guys constantly try to get to the quarterback and there's
Speaker 1: no quitting them. What do you make of the receiver position?
Speaker 1: I know I'm jumping around a little bit, but you
Speaker 1: know that's the revamped room. You still have the headliner.
Speaker 1: You know, that's Garrett Wilson. That's your number one. He
Speaker 1: was always gonna be your number one. We knew that.
Speaker 1: But the Jets go out in free agency they signed
Speaker 1: Allen Lazard. Of course, he's got the familiarity with Nathaniel Hackett,
Speaker 1: He's got the familiarity with Aaron Rodgers. If a trade
Speaker 1: does indeed happen, then at the slot position, Elijah Moore
Speaker 1: in a third round pick, goes to Cleveland and exchange
Speaker 1: for a second round pick, and then the Jets bring
Speaker 1: in a versatile burner and McCole Hardman Jr. Of course,
Speaker 1: Bracton Burial signs with the Miami Dolphins. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: think the jetson will be looking to add one more receiver.
Speaker 1: We don't know what round it will be in. There's
Speaker 1: actually pretty good depth and this receiver, you know class.
Speaker 1: I think Jaden Reid is a guy that if he's
Speaker 1: there in the fourth round, makes a lot of sense
Speaker 1: from Michigan State for the Jets. And then we talked
Speaker 1: about it, right ea, say all four of the top
Speaker 1: official tagles are gone, Does Jackson Smith and Jigbua become
Speaker 1: a name at thirteen? Nova Texas pick at twelve. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if they, you know, would let him go,
Speaker 1: especially if they get Bryce Young at number two. I
Speaker 1: think it just makes too much sense for them not
Speaker 1: to take him. I don't know if you take Quentin Johnson.
Speaker 1: That's why you kind of signed Alan Lazard. Same type
Speaker 1: of body type, same type of molde. They don't have
Speaker 1: a you know, unique route tree. But there are guys
Speaker 1: that can go up and get the fifty fifty jump balls,
Speaker 1: those those drag routes coming across the middle. They're both
Speaker 1: good at that. So I don't think you go Quentin Johnson.
Speaker 1: Maybe Jordan Addison is a name that you look at right.
Speaker 1: He's got some position back flexibility where he could play
Speaker 1: in the slot as well, So that's the guy that
Speaker 1: could potentially look at. I just think if Jackson Smith
Speaker 1: and Jigbud has gone, the top four tackles are gone.
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if Joe Douglas traded back,
Speaker 1: But receiver could be a pick they take in the
Speaker 1: first round only if all four officsive tackles are gone.
Speaker 1: But it's also because I talk about it's pretty good
Speaker 1: depth at this receivering class. I could see him wait
Speaker 1: until the fourth rounds go get a receiver. A trade
Speaker 1: back would be interesting, no doubt about that. What did
Speaker 1: you think about the Jets interest in Nodell Backham and
Speaker 1: the money he got from the Baltimore Ravens and Joe
Speaker 1: Douglas continues to stick to his plan And I think
Speaker 1: that's another example of it, isn't it? Oh one hundred
Speaker 1: percent and shout out to Odell? I couldn't be more ecstatic.
Speaker 1: And I knew that Jets were never gonna pay that much,
Speaker 1: right because he essentially got fifteen million guarantee with a
Speaker 1: chance to make eighteen mill, Like that's literally like top
Speaker 1: number one receiver money in the league. And he didn't
Speaker 1: play all last year. Hea he's coming off in ACL
Speaker 1: and I think he turns thirty one this year. And
Speaker 1: I love O'Dell, but father time is undefeated. Right, Teams
Speaker 1: at a GM tell me once, we'd rather pay a guy,
Speaker 1: you know, let a guy leave one year too earlier
Speaker 1: than one year too late. Right, that's the philosophy for
Speaker 1: steel or philosophy. Yeah, that's that's the philosophy of a
Speaker 1: lot of these teams. So like, I'm so happy from
Speaker 1: a player's point of view, that O'Dell got that, specially
Speaker 1: coming off an injury. I just know Joe Douglas was
Speaker 1: never gonna pay that. Now, I think the Jets were
Speaker 1: willing to pay more than people thought they would. Now
Speaker 1: I've heard around twelve million dollars, which I was surprised, right.
Speaker 1: I thought it would be more of a nine million
Speaker 1: dollars type deal with incentives to make it up to
Speaker 1: like fifteen or you know, sixteen million dollars. But from
Speaker 1: what I've heard that potentially the Jets were willing to
Speaker 1: pay twelve million dollars with some incentives to to you know,
Speaker 1: to bump that number up. But I don't think they
Speaker 1: were ever going to get close to eighteen million dollars,
Speaker 1: whether it was incentive based or not. Jets fans were
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Speaker 1: still a member the Green Bay Packers right now in
Speaker 1: Arizona at the league meetings, saying that, hey, these teams
Speaker 1: have had productive conversations. I know Jody was at an
Speaker 1: event the other nights of where a lot of fans
Speaker 1: were at and then he was asked about to buy
Speaker 1: boomer size. And the Packers continue to be asked about
Speaker 1: the situation themselves. When do you see the next flashpoint.
Speaker 1: We're two weeks out from the NFL Draft right now. Yeah, Ea,
Speaker 1: it's it's getting to the point where something just needs
Speaker 1: to get done. I think literally the day they were
Speaker 1: looking at is either the twenty seventh or the twenty eighth.
Speaker 1: Those are the first two days in the draft. So
Speaker 1: you're Green Bay, like you would have to think something
Speaker 1: has to get done before them, because you would want
Speaker 1: draft capital to add to your roster, right to truly
Speaker 1: evaluate Jordan Love, you would think, right, the betting man
Speaker 1: would believe that. And from what I've heard, Ea, I
Speaker 1: know they've had production converenation, productive conversations, but it seems
Speaker 1: lately that both teams are kind of dug their heels
Speaker 1: in and nobody's willing to blink. Essentially, it's the word
Speaker 1: that comes to mind EA to me, if you're Green Bay,
Speaker 1: and this is not even just being a homer, right,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was going to retire, that means forty million
Speaker 1: dollars is gonna be stuck on your books. Now, you
Speaker 1: could have allocated that through multiple seasons, but at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you still would have had to
Speaker 1: pay that bill. Right, the Jets were taking that bill
Speaker 1: off your hand. Right, And if Aaron Rodgers decides to
Speaker 1: change things up and show up when obviously he's in
Speaker 1: programs started for Green Bay, you owe him sixty million dollars.
Speaker 1: In the locker room where everybody thought that you guys
Speaker 1: are moving forward with Jordan Love, you've already come out
Speaker 1: publicly and said, you know, the only way Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is back with us, is things don't go the way
Speaker 1: we want them to go. That was your president, Mark Murphy.
Speaker 1: That's what he said, right. Bryan Goudakas said, Supposedly the
Speaker 1: conversations weren't as fluid with him and Aaron Rodgers going
Speaker 1: into the all season when he went into the dark hole.
Speaker 1: You know, you know that he was supposed to call
Speaker 1: us and didn't happen. Aaron Rodgers says, you know, after
Speaker 1: coming out of the black hole, he's supposed to have
Speaker 1: a conversation with him. When he came out of the
Speaker 1: black hole, it was Jordan Love's gonna be our quarterback?
Speaker 1: So like, what are we doing here hea end of
Speaker 1: the day? Like I know, you know, the Jet fans
Speaker 1: are tired of this. The Green Bay Packers fans have
Speaker 1: to be tired of it. They think they're getting the
Speaker 1: first like Joe Douglas is not given the Green Bay
Speaker 1: Packers the first round pick for Aaron Rodgers one. He's
Speaker 1: a thirty eight, thirty nine year old quarterback, I believe,
Speaker 1: And we don't know how many years he's gonna play.
Speaker 1: Now we know he'll play the twenty three season, but
Speaker 1: who knows what's gonna happen in twenty four So you're
Speaker 1: right back in this position again a year from now, EA,
Speaker 1: needing a quarterback if Aaron Rodgers doesn't play two years.
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, I think they
Speaker 1: just need to come to terms whether it's a second
Speaker 1: round pick this year, conditional third next year, depending on
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers if he plays, and then they can even
Speaker 1: do it where it's per raded by stats. EA. Right
Speaker 1: say Aaron Rodgers hits a crazy stat line he throws
Speaker 1: for four thousand yards to Jets, go to the Divisional
Speaker 1: AFC championship game, then it moves up to a second
Speaker 1: round pick and get the deal done so both teams
Speaker 1: can move forward, because right now both teams are at
Speaker 1: the standstill because if you look at what Green Bays
Speaker 1: done this off season, they've done anything. Ea, they're in
Speaker 1: the standstille because of that number that Aaron Rodgers has
Speaker 1: on the books, and the Jets have made some moves
Speaker 1: right Allen's are McCole, Harman, quinnin Jefferson, but they're still
Speaker 1: kind of had a standstill as far as what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do in the draft because right now they have
Speaker 1: those two second round picks that you talked about, But
Speaker 1: a lot of people assume one of those picks are
Speaker 1: going to Green Bay. So I think Joe Douglas and
Speaker 1: the staff probably have two, you know, they have two
Speaker 1: routes they're gonna take, whether the trade gets done before
Speaker 1: the draft or after the draft. Right now, they're probably
Speaker 1: assuming that the trade gets done, so they're gonna probably
Speaker 1: assuming they only got one second round pick. But as
Speaker 1: time gets closer, they're gonna have to have a plan
Speaker 1: drawn up where they're gonna have to use both of
Speaker 1: those second round picks just in case the trade doesn't
Speaker 1: happen before the draft. Man, that would be such an
Speaker 1: interesting Thursday night if oh yes, it would if it
Speaker 1: gets through a round one no trade. But that's why
Speaker 1: I said the twenty eighth, because you gotta think the
Speaker 1: first two day to draft, the first two days, the
Speaker 1: draft starts later in the afternoon, right, say things like
Speaker 1: seven o'clock, right, if I'm not mistaken, So you literally
Speaker 1: have all Thursday night throughout the draft and then Friday morning.
Speaker 1: A lot of those drafts, you know, things happen literally
Speaker 1: like minutes before the picked happen, and so I think
Speaker 1: that could happen. We saw the A. J. Brown trade
Speaker 1: happen on draft night, right, So it's like, you gotta
Speaker 1: have your plans ready if you're Joe Douglass in the staff,
Speaker 1: just in case things go left and the trade doesn't
Speaker 1: happen before the draft. You got to be prepared to
Speaker 1: use both of those second round picks where you trade
Speaker 1: back on the second one, or you're ready to pick
Speaker 1: two players at forty two and forty three. Jets had
Speaker 1: they had a health down the stretch, they were a
Speaker 1: playoff team last year, but they didn't have health, and
Speaker 1: then we're in a playoff team when we saw it
Speaker 1: fall apart. What are they if Rogers is wearing green
Speaker 1: and white next season, what are they their playoff team
Speaker 1: competing for the AFC East Crown. Right, They competed for
Speaker 1: it last year for most of the season, and you
Speaker 1: talked about the EA injuries and then you know up
Speaker 1: and down quarterback play kind of hurt them last year
Speaker 1: down the stretch. So if they have Aaron Rodgers in
Speaker 1: quote unquote in a down year, Aaron Rodgers through for
Speaker 1: almost thirty seven hundred yards EA, twenty six touchdowns and
Speaker 1: twelve interceptions in point to your poor Randy lang are
Speaker 1: a great statistician here, editor, feature writer, He's done everything
Speaker 1: here for the Jets. He looked up Rogers numbers twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two and compared it to every single season passer
Speaker 1: in Jets franchise history. That would have been one of
Speaker 1: the best in Jets franchise history. Sea, That's what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: even in the down year, Aaron Rodgers would have had
Speaker 1: the Jets in the playoffs because that would have been
Speaker 1: statistically one of the best years of Jets quarterback has
Speaker 1: ever had. And it's crazy they think that's a off
Speaker 1: year for Aaron Rodgers if you look at the league
Speaker 1: as a whole, like that's a good year for most
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL, but that's a subpart year for
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. So that lets you know the skill set
Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers brings, even in an off or quote
Speaker 1: unquote down year, right, him throwing for almost thirty seven
Speaker 1: hundred yards pushed the Jets probably in you know, AFCA's
Speaker 1: contention to win it, because let's not forget, I believe
Speaker 1: five games is the Jets loss, right, the defense of
Speaker 1: up twenty points or less. So if Aaron Rodgers just
Speaker 1: averages twenty one points. They just have five more wins
Speaker 1: at twelve wins AA on the season. To put that
Speaker 1: into the perspective, I know, obviously a lot of pressure
Speaker 1: on any gum Joe Douglas. It's got to feel a
Speaker 1: little bit different this year as opposed to last year. Yes,
Speaker 1: the Rogers thing is the big piece out there. As
Speaker 1: Woody Johnson said at the beginning of the offseason, quarterbacks
Speaker 1: been kind of the missing link. So let's just to
Speaker 1: assume that down the line, this trade's gonna happen. Douglas
Speaker 1: last year had to hit a home run in the draft,
Speaker 1: and you look back at it, you might have hit
Speaker 1: a Grand Slam. Yeah. Yeah, I think we said this
Speaker 1: last year on the podcast and throughout other shows. To me,
Speaker 1: it was a franchise deciding draft. Right when it came
Speaker 1: to what Joe d did last year. You're talking about
Speaker 1: getting Sauce Garden and Garrett Wilson with your first two picks. Right.
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, for all intentsive purposes, should have been for
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl because he played with four different quarterbacks. EA,
Speaker 1: we saw what Sauce Gardner did, he was All Pro
Speaker 1: four reason right, he literally shut down everybody that was
Speaker 1: outside to come in and lead the league and PBUs
Speaker 1: as a rookie is something amazing. And again DJ Reid
Speaker 1: and let's not talk about what Joe Douglas did in
Speaker 1: the off season two right, getting guys like DJ Reid
Speaker 1: and Tyler Conklin who had a quiet actually really good
Speaker 1: season as well. So like that, and then getting Breece
Speaker 1: Hall in the second round, Jermaine Johnson who was playing
Speaker 1: really well before the foot injury, got him in the
Speaker 1: first round, and then Max Mitchell and Michael Clemens in
Speaker 1: the fourth round. Like how many times is your fourth
Speaker 1: round picks are they called upon their first year and
Speaker 1: they take significant snaps, but hold up right, that rarely happens. Ea.
Speaker 1: So the due diligence of this, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: scouting department and Joe Douglas and his staff. You have
Speaker 1: to give him a kudos because they did a really
Speaker 1: good job in that draft, not only in the draft
Speaker 1: but also in free agency. All right, I don't want
Speaker 1: to give everything away that you said during the Jets overtime,
Speaker 1: and you can watch that CBS Saturday Night, eleven thirty.
Speaker 1: We're gonna preview the offense, the offensive side of things
Speaker 1: as far as the twenty twenty three NFL Draft, and
Speaker 1: then next week we're gonna preview the defense. But one
Speaker 1: of your favorite guys overall. You talked about your infatuation
Speaker 1: with Darnell right, how impressed you are with him. You
Speaker 1: like another guy in that sec a playmaker, a running back.
Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about b John Robinson, You in fact have
Speaker 1: your eyes set on somebody else. Yeah, Jamir Gibbs. I
Speaker 1: have him as a first round running back. And I
Speaker 1: don't think that lightly because I'm a big on position
Speaker 1: of value guys. I feel like you can get more
Speaker 1: value in the second, third round with running backs. But
Speaker 1: he's an elite talent. Right when you talk about first
Speaker 1: and foremost, let's just go to special teams. Droute Ea,
Speaker 1: the return ability and the kickoff return game. He's a
Speaker 1: game changer when it comes to that. Then you're talking
Speaker 1: about a guy that has contact balanced like Alvin Kamara,
Speaker 1: where guys just bounce off on I mean, Dress Sanders
Speaker 1: a lot of people because of to him the number
Speaker 1: one linebacker in this draft class. Go turn on that
Speaker 1: Arkansas film and see how many times Drew Sanders missive
Speaker 1: tackle on this guy and just bounced off from where
Speaker 1: people thought he was tackled for loss. They say, you
Speaker 1: know he's got five or six yards ea. So you
Speaker 1: talk about the contact balance and then the explosiveness and speed, right,
Speaker 1: game changer screenplays, zone plays, being able to take it
Speaker 1: sixty seventy yards and outrun angles. That's what Jamir Gibbs
Speaker 1: gives you. Now. Bjon Robinson gives you a lot of
Speaker 1: that as well too, as far as catching and catching
Speaker 1: the ball out of the backfield. He's a tough guy
Speaker 1: to bring down, right. I just like the explosiveness of
Speaker 1: Jamir Gibbs a little bit better. Interesting, this has been great.
Speaker 1: You gotta roll. Let's end here. Top three needs for
Speaker 1: the Jets quarterback aside top three needs, I would say
Speaker 1: offensive tackle for sure, center and then defensive tackle in
Speaker 1: that order too. Offensive tackle, center than the exactly perfect
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