1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to the Monday President's Day edition of 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, or Working Everybody. 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: This is live, baby, this show is live. We are 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: large and in charge here on Clay and Buck. 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: Some of you. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Some people are saying you have days off, very lucky people, 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: very big bank accounts, very fortunate people with their days 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: off for President's Day play. We do not have President's 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: Day off. We are here to bring you all the 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: news and to entertain you and inform you. Despite it 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: being a federal holiday. You know what percent of workers 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: get this day off in the in the private industry, 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: what would you guess? Take a gat? 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: Twenty percent? 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: You nailed it between nineteen to twenty four, depending on 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: the year, but about twenty percent. So eighty percent of 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: the private industry is still working today. But it's called 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: the federal holiday. We didn't get it. So you know, 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: perhaps this year I will take off Juneteenth, in fact, which. 20 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: Is all we don't get. We don't get Juneteenth to MLCA. 21 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 3: We're live Columbus Day, and we're live on President's Day 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken. And also a lot of times 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: the Friday after Thanksgiving, so we are. 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say. 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: In the media world, probably working way more days than 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 3: the vast majority of people are. 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: Yes, one day, we'll be on that Rachel Mattow one 28 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: day a week, thirty million dollars a year gig. But 29 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: in the meantime, it's a good gig. In the meantime, 30 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: we're here to bring you all the news. And for 31 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: those of you who are in that fortune and twenty 32 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: five percent, you can kick back, relax all three hours. 33 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: You can also take this time to get your copy 34 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: of Manufacturing Delusion, which comes out tomorrow. Officially, my friends, 35 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: how the left uses brainwashing in doctrination of propaganda against you. 36 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: Run up those numbers. 37 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: Go to clayanbuck dot com if you want, we're go 38 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: to Amazon or wherever you get your books. We need 39 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: a lot of books sold. People are saying things like 40 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: no one reads anymore. Let's prove them wrong. Let's prove 41 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: them wrong, Conservatives. People listen to the show we read, 42 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: so go check that out. Speaking of people who don't read, 43 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: this is a perfect transition. 44 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: I might say. 45 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: AOC and Gretchen Whitmer at the Munich Security Conference, no doubt, 46 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: two women who are going to be running probably along 47 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: with Kamala, which we don't need to talk about that 48 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: right now. It's sad probably going to be running for president, 49 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: and that means that they need to burnish their national 50 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: security credentials. Now, I will say, Clay and I pre 51 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: show had the discussion. Do we get into Rubio's speech, 52 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: which was truly magnificent, the best Secretary of State speech 53 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: I have heard, or certainly. 54 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: That I know. 55 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: I just just watched it, but that I can remember, 56 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: it was phenomenal. It addressed a lot of things, the 57 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: defensive Western civilization, the ties between America and Europe, the 58 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: bond that goes far beyond just a treaty or obligation 59 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: of statute. 60 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: This is something that is much deeper. 61 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that, but Clay, let's start with this 62 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: US AOC ask some questions about some things. I want 63 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: to start with her. Should the US defend this is 64 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: cut eight? Should the US defend Taiwan if China goes 65 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: for it? 66 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: Play eight? 67 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: Would? And should the US actually commit US troops to 68 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 4: defend Taiwan if China. 69 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 3: Were to move? 70 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 5: You know, I think that. 71 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 4: This is such a you know, I think that this 72 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: is a this is of course a very long standing 73 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: policy of the United States, and I think what we 74 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 4: are hoping for is that we want to make sure 75 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 4: that we never get to that point, and we want 76 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 4: to make sure that we are moving in all of 77 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 4: our economic research and our global positions to avoid any 78 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: such confrontation. And for that question to even. 79 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: Rise, Clay, it's law school class and AOC got called 80 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: on by a professor, and not only did she fail 81 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 1: to do the reading, she doesn't know what case they're 82 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: talking about. 83 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: It's worse than that, Buck, It's like she doesn't know 84 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 3: that there is a legislative, executive, and judicial branch of 85 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: the United States government. This sounded like, if you remember 86 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: the megaviral answer the Iraq from Miss South Carolina back 87 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: in the day, that maybe we can grab that and 88 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: interspice them, because I think that would be a fun take. 89 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: To me, this kind of answer is disqualifying. And you 90 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: might say, Okay, Clay, what do you mean by that. 91 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: AOC has been in Congress now, Buck, for what eight years? 92 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: Basically didn't she get elected back in twenty eighteen ish? 93 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, so I think she's been in 94 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: Congress for around eight years. That's my recollection of her career. 95 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: What we should if China invades Taiwan is one of 96 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: the constant hypotheticals that has existed for basically two three 97 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: generations where people have answered, here is an easy answer 98 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: that AOC could give if she had in any way 99 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 3: a functional brain. Right now, I am a congresswoman. I 100 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 3: don't dictate foreign policy, but I think it's important that 101 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 3: we maintain our long standing policy of strategic ambiguity. Maybe 102 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,559 Speaker 3: one day down the line, if I remember setting behind 103 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: the Resolute Desk, I'll have to reconcile what strategic ambiguity 104 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: actually means. But today is not that day. Next question, 105 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: I just did it off the top of my head. 106 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: You and I are not eight year congress people. We 107 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 3: are not professional politicians. You probably no way more about this, 108 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 3: by far than most professional politicians do, because you just 109 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 3: came back from Taiwan. But to be this poor at 110 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 3: responding to a question that is not in any way difficult, 111 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: buck if she had been asked, Hey, there is a 112 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: major issue right now on the border between India and Pakistan. 113 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 3: Where should the border actually be drawn? Based on the 114 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: inherent tensions that have existed in that region since the 115 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: nineteen forties. 116 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: What parallel should the line be? AOC. 117 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 3: Like some questions you get asked and you could say, okay, 118 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: like I understand why there's not a definitive answer there. 119 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: This is not one of those. It's one of the most. 120 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: Basic questions of rudimentary knowledge that anyone in American politics 121 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: should be able to answer, just immediately, without even any 122 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 3: difficulty whatsoever. 123 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: I would even raise the annie and do what you 124 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: just did. It's even worse than that Clay because usually 125 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: AOC knows what answer her audience wants to hear, because 126 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: she has come across this before. She doesn't even know 127 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: which side of this she's supposed to. 128 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: Be, well, that's partly true or her. 129 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: Side right, So usually it would be you know, uh, 130 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: if it's anything having to do with Israel, take the 131 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: anti Israel side, and that's what that's what her team wants, 132 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 1: that's what the left, that's what the commedis want, anti Israel, 133 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: That's what AOC has to do, right. There are some 134 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: issues where it just falls into this bucket. Is it 135 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: white people and brown people anywhere in the world, any 136 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: issue gotta favor the brown people. That's just what her 137 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: audience demands, that's what her supporters expect, and then you 138 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: sit here, you go okay. On this one, she doesn't 139 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: even know what side of it her supporters want her 140 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: to be on. So it's yes, there's the lack of knowledge, 141 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: the lack of information, that's clear, but beyond that there 142 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: is uh. She hasn't even thought about this enough to 143 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: know what wrote answer she's supposed to give. 144 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: This And I'm but I was gonna say this ties 145 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: in directly to your point, Buck, when she answered about 146 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: Rubio saying, hey, there's a history of Europe even founded 147 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: in the cowboys and how they came to exist. This 148 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: ties in with that book where her default is just 149 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: white people bad, brown black people good, and that's going 150 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: to be the metric under which I try to answer 151 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: any question. But it just exposes her. Listen to this 152 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: book cut six talking about cowboys. 153 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: Rudo's speech was a pure appeal to Western culture. My 154 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 4: favorite part was when he said that American cowboys came 155 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 4: from Spain. I believe the Mexicans and descendants of African 156 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 4: enslave people's would like to have a. 157 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: Word on that. She doesn't know. 158 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: To be clear, that wasn't a misstatement She doesn't know 159 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: that there were no horses, nor was there any domestication 160 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: of animals in the Americas, with the exception, as I 161 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: pointed out on Twitter of lamas by the Incas in 162 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: South America, there was no there were no horses, There 163 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: were no cows that were domesticated in North America or 164 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: at least in the you know, fifty states or forty 165 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: eight states of America and Mexico and Clay. She doesn't 166 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: know that the Natives got their horses from the Spanish 167 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: Conquista doors. 168 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: She doesn't know. 169 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: It seems that Mexicans are descendants of Spaniards. 170 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 2: That's why they speak Spanish. There's a reason for that. 171 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, there's a reason for an Espanol 172 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: in Mexico. 173 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: They're not speaking as tech down there. Yeah right. 174 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 3: I also think her opening criticism, we've got one more 175 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: cut from her. And I do think the disconnecting the 176 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: average intellectual theft between Marco Rubio and AOC is I 177 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: don't know, thirty forty IQ points potentially in terms of 178 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: their ability to communicate and understand larger issues. Yes, Marco 179 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 3: Rubio defended Western civilization because Western civilization is the foundation 180 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: of all basically human progress throughout the past thousand years, 181 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: two thousand years. 182 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: However far back you want to go. 183 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: And this is also tying in to your point with 184 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 3: she just kind of falls back on this identity politics 185 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 3: clap trap, which is a camouflage for morons from having 186 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: to actually engage on an intellectual level with complicated ideas, 187 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 3: where she says, again, brown and black people heroes, whiteness 188 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 3: is imaginary. I don't even know what that means. Cut seven, 189 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: There's a. 190 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 6: Very big difference between whiteness and national like your actual culture, right, 191 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 6: Whiteness is an imaginary thing. Being German is real, Being 192 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 6: Italian is real, you know, being English. These are rich 193 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 6: cultural heritages that are based on values, and they are 194 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 6: so much a part of what make our our cultures 195 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 6: and our societies what they are. 196 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's let's play this game for a second. Though, 197 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: So what is blackness? Yes, to be clear, what is 198 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: what is black culture? And they want to play this 199 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: game for a second. Uh, if you start saying things like, uh, 200 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: you know jazz music, you know, I don't know, you 201 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: know basketball, that's African American, that's Black American culture. 202 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: So to her, point, How is it any different. 203 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that the people of Mozambique think of 204 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: themselves as living a different culture, in different life than 205 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: people who grew up in the suburbs of Philly or 206 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: Chicago or in the city center. 207 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: Pretty sure. 208 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: So what exactly is her point? Somebody who talks about 209 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: black and brown people all the time. Oh, that's right, 210 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: brown people, Peruvians and people from Malaysia very similar culture, 211 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: very similar. 212 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: Well, there are they all brown? They're brown? 213 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: So what is brownness? What are black and brown people? 214 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: In her context? This is what's so I mean, I 215 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: think it's also funny thought. 216 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: She says Western civilization isn't a thing, and then she 217 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 3: goes and says British, German and Italian cultures are real 218 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 3: and they should be proud, Like she isn't even capable 219 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: of maintaining a coherent line of thought. Because, and I 220 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: do think this is important. Identity politics has so overtaken 221 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: the Democrat Party that they cannot look at anything outside 222 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 3: the prism of colonizer and colonized. 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It is and back 265 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: to holiday. 266 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: We have Our talented team has mixed and matched AOC 267 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: with and This is great two thousand and seven Miss 268 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 3: South Carolina. 269 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: Do we know Buck? 270 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: What happened to two thousand and seven South Carolina. I 271 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 3: may have to grock it to find out where she 272 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: is now. But for those of you who have forgotten, 273 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: this was viral Buck in the earliest days of social media, 274 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: like is this in rock? Like such a oh yes, 275 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: oh yeah, we have now mixed AOC, and I would 276 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: encourage producer Greg to do a video version of this 277 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: and share it on social media because I think it 278 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: will do well. Here is Miss South Carolina asked about 279 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: Iraq and here is now a mix AOC asked about 280 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: what should happen with Taiwan and China. 281 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 7: Enjoy whist and Paul's have shown a fifth of Americans 282 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 7: can't locate the US on a world map. 283 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: Why do you think this is? 284 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 7: I personally believe that US Americans are unable to do 285 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 7: so because some people out there in our nation don't 286 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 7: have that, you know. 287 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 4: I think that, uh, this is such a you. 288 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 7: Know, I think that, And I believe that our education 289 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 7: like such as a South Africa and Iraq everywhere like 290 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 7: such as and. 291 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: This is a. 292 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 4: This is of course a very long standing policy of 293 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 4: the United States. 294 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 5: I believe that. 295 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 7: They should Our education over here in the US should 296 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 7: help the US, or should help South Africa, it should 297 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 7: help direct in the Asian countries, so we will be 298 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 7: able to build up our future for our. 299 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 4: UH And I think what we are hoping for is 300 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 4: that we want to make sure that we never get 301 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 4: to that point, and we want to make sure that 302 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 4: we are moving in all of our economic research, in 303 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 4: our global positions to avoid any such confrontation and for 304 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 4: that question to even arise. 305 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 306 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: That is very well done. That is very well done. 307 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 3: Her name, by the way, buck Caitlin Upton. She was 308 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: miss teen USA and she went on to Appalachian State 309 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 3: University go APSU. And she is now married with two kids. 310 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 3: Oh sorry, she got divorced. Well anyway, that is where 311 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 3: she has now gone. Really, she married a personal trainer. 312 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 3: They got divorced a couple of years later. So I'm sorry. 313 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: Maybe Caitlyn's listening right now. Maybe she went for the 314 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 3: ABS over the character. You know what I'm saying. 315 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: That's a mistake, ladies, it's a mistake. 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I think SEC football probably. 352 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: Gets you know, you think you know a guy and 353 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: then out of nowhere kicking the kicking the shins. 354 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: All right, yeah, fine SEC football. Fair point. Now. 355 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: Now, Gretchen Whitmer is over there, and we all we 356 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: all know why she's there, right, she's you gotta think 357 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: I actually think she may be in the best. It's funny, actually, 358 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: isn't it? Because these are two women. If you were 359 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: asking me and I guess we can do this now 360 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: bet on the twenty eight Democrat VP it. These two 361 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: women would be the top of my list and maybe 362 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: even the number one, number two slot. 363 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: You need a woman for the ticket. 364 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: I don't think you can have a woman on top 365 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: of the ticket because they've tried that a few times 366 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: and they've lost. So I think they're gonna get away 367 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: from that. I think it probably is gonna be Gavin Newsom. 368 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: Could be wrong on that, but no matter who it 369 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: is at the top, unless it's one of these two. 370 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: But I don't think that's gonna happen. I think Gretchen 371 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: Whitmer is very likely as a Democrat VP. And actually 372 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: this would be interesting. Who do you think right now 373 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: is AOC If you had to place a bet AOC 374 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: or Whitmer for VP, forget about who the president is VP, 375 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: which one do you think has the better shot? 376 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 3: I have to say, realistically it's Whitmer. I agree for 377 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: me because Michigan is must win. There's no world in 378 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 3: which Democrats win in twenty twenty eight without winning Michigan. 379 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: They have to. 380 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 3: I mean, they look, they have to win Michigan, Wisconsin, 381 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 3: and Pennsylvania probably all three, but they cannot win without me. 382 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 3: I think they should have picked Shapiro or Witmer in 383 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: twenty eight if Kamala weren't a moron, if we were 384 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: going to sell our souls and try to help the 385 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: bad guys win. And they hired me, and they said 386 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: who should I would say, you know the same play, 387 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: feel the same way. 388 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: Michigan. 389 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: You gotta win Michigan, and more than ever probably for 390 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: the Democrats going forward, they gotta win Michigan. And Gretchen 391 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: Whitmer I think could help deliver that for them. That 392 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: all that all is is going toward this though, which 393 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: is she's over there because she has to create this 394 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: perception that she's more than a state governor, that she 395 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: could be on the national stage. And here's how that 396 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: went for her. Let's listen to governor. Governor Whitmer weigh 397 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: in on national security abroad Ukraine. 398 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 4: What does victory look like? 399 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: I'd love to hear your answer. 400 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 8: It is I the two, the two that I am 401 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 8: on the panel with, are much more steeped in foreign 402 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 8: policy than than a governor is. But you know, I 403 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 8: do think that Ukraine's independence, keeping their their land mass 404 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 8: and having the support of all the allies I think 405 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 8: is the. 406 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 7: Goal for my banish point. 407 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 8: Go ahead, ambassador, do better job. 408 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: Now? Can I say something? 409 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: She at least knows that she knows nothing and was 410 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: willing to kind of so much less the AOC thing 411 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm really smart. 412 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: I'm really smart. I don't know anything, but I'm smart, 413 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: and everyone's like, no, you're not. This one. 414 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: At least she's willing to be like, I know nothing, 415 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: but I will say this, Clay, she should know more 416 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: than this. You work in politics, you should have more 417 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: to say than that. And you want to be president. 418 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 3: You traveled to Munich for a foreign policy conference. 419 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: It's not like she got hit on. 420 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: Meet the press and the first question was, hey, how 421 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 3: do we get Grand Rapids booming again? Just picking a 422 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 3: random Michigan region right an area which the governor should know. 423 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 3: And then the next question was where exactly should the 424 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 3: line be drawn when it comes to Ukraine and in 425 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 3: Russia trying to develop a peace accord. When you and 426 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 3: she's sitting doing an interview in Lancing, when you travel 427 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,239 Speaker 3: to a foreign policy conference, it doesn't seem ridiculous to 428 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 3: me that you could do a bare minimum of foreign 429 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 3: policy research, because otherwise you could just say, hey, I'm 430 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: so busy being governor right now, I don't have time 431 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 3: to travel to Europe and sit on a foreign policy panel. 432 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: And also at the Again, I come back to there 433 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: are some conflicts which are not very well known or 434 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: very well covered, and that could be a complicated question 435 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 3: to answer. Answering a question as an American politician in 436 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six about Ukraine in Russia, as Whitmer was asked, 437 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 3: and about Taiwan and China as AOC was asked, probably Buck, 438 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 3: if I were doing prep. Let's pretend that you and 439 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: I were sitting around and we were thinking, Hey, what 440 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 3: might you get answered in Munich at a foreign policy 441 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 3: conference as a American? I would think those are number 442 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: one and number two most likely questions. This maybe about NATO, 443 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 3: maybe about the UN, you know, like I can think 444 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 3: of other three and four, But I would argue that's 445 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 3: one and two most likely to be asked. 446 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: This isn't like, hey, weigh in on the Rohingia crisis 447 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: and the border dispute between Bangladesh and Bangladesh and mean 448 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: Mayan mar No, this is like, that's really vague. Very 449 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: few people even know about that as a thing unless 450 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: you work in international diplomacy or something. 451 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 2: Although it is a real thing. It's pretty nasty. 452 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: Point is what you said, which is this is the 453 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: absolute top of the list, like, Okay. 454 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna lean into this. 455 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: So when I went into the football game, the big 456 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: one that I didn't even know if I'm allowed to 457 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: say what it's called on radio because there's all these rules. 458 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 2: But I think I can. I can say the super Bowl. 459 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 2: I think I can mention it. Right. They're trying. 460 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: They always try to protect the use of the phrase 461 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: super Bowl, which means everybody's like when you watch the 462 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: big game whatever, it's a super Bowl, it's a there's 463 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 3: a First Amendment right that the nfl is should step 464 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: off anyway, because you can refer to things when you're 465 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 3: talking about things that are going on in the world 466 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 3: without their say. So that's pretty it's pretty annoying that 467 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: they have that weird policy. And the oscars that's kind 468 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: of the same thing too, like how dare you you know? 469 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 3: It's like uh, but usually that's with video point being Clay. 470 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 3: You gave me some crib notes so that I could 471 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 3: go in there with all the other dads and moms 472 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 3: with their kids. It was like a child friendly super Bowl. 473 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: So it was basically just like romper room. It was 474 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: like people just on tricycles ramming each other. I gave 475 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: everybody out there for people we forgot. I gave you 476 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 3: like two points that you could make to seem like 477 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 3: you were sophisticated, and then you just withdraw and you've 478 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: demonstrated enough conversant knowledge on football. 479 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: So I'm just saying I deployed those points, and it 480 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: was like I was welcome in the football tribe for 481 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: the day. It was like, yeah, that's right, you know. Yeah, 482 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: the people thought because they didn't know, they don't know 483 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: who I am. These are like friends of friends. Mostly 484 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't my super Bowl party, so I see them 485 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: like normal. With foreign policy, it's the same thing you 486 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: get prepped by your team. You know what the main 487 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: things are you're gonna say. You say those things and 488 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: everyone feels AOC and Whitmer couldn't even do that. They 489 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: couldn't even pretend to know who the qbs are. 490 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 3: Clay, Yeah, and I would also point out Whitmer to 491 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 3: your point at least a laugh to off her ignorance. 492 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: And a lot of people will give you a pass 493 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 3: if you just say, hey, there's a lot of people 494 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 3: who know way more about that than I do. AOC's 495 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 3: in Congress, there are constant hearings about what should happen 496 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 3: if Taiwan is invaded by China. This is not I mean, 497 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 3: she is in the federal government, which would be called 498 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: upon to respond. Again, I gave you an answer, which 499 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 3: is just hey, I'm a congresswoman right now, I don't 500 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: dictate foreign policy. I think it's important to maintain our 501 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 3: policy of strategic ambiguity. Maybe somewhere down the line, if 502 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 3: I'm sitting behind the Resolute desk and we get President AOC, 503 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: then I will have to make a determination on that 504 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 3: as a factual matter. I hope not, because I hope 505 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 3: that China never invades Taiwan and we don't have to 506 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 3: deal with the international implications of that incident. Boom, that's 507 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 3: an answer, Buck, I didn't need to get prepped. 508 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 2: I'm not in Munich. 509 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 3: But if you go to a foreign policy event, you 510 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 3: or I, even if we were super busy with our 511 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 3: other jobs, could get briefed for one hour on the 512 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 3: ten biggest global flashpoints in America and be able to 513 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 3: handle any question on those incidents. It's just indicative of 514 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 3: not doing a bare minimum of homework and also not 515 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: being very It makes me think that all they do, 516 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: and I think there is a great deal of this 517 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: is just memorize answers, and I think that's going to 518 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 3: become increasingly exposed in the modern era, when all that 519 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: matters is authenticity. We were just talking about this off air. 520 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: Trump creates every single week three stories that ten years 521 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 3: ago would have destroyed any other politician. Right, every single week, 522 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 3: he said as three things, and everybody loses their mind 523 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 3: and they last about twenty four hours because people understand 524 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 3: that Trump is a bull in a china shop and 525 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 3: they have come to accept the good with the bad, 526 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 3: for better or worse right. And the funny part about 527 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 3: this is obviously the people with the worst Trump derangement 528 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: syndrome still believe, oh, this time, this time. 529 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 2: We got him. 530 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: He's definitely done the unbelievable. And every time, it's like 531 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 3: Lucy with the football. They come running up their Charlie 532 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 3: Brown football gets moved around, they fall on their back 533 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 3: and they're staring up at the sky and Trump just 534 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 3: gets more powerful. 535 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: It's because as long as you fulfill the. 536 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 3: Expectations that you have set, most people are willing to 537 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 3: accept what you are. And I just look at AOC 538 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 3: and Whitmer, and I say they're supposed to be the 539 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 3: adults in the room. These were not adults in the 540 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 3: room conversations. And if you think you're gonna be VP, 541 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: I think AOC is gonna run for president. I think 542 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 3: Gretchen Whitmer is gonna run for president. I think the 543 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: guys are going to get exposed because they haven't done 544 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: the bare minimum of homework. Now, the scary thing, Buck is, 545 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: you can maybe argue none of this matters, and I 546 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: are talking about it, But if you like AOC or 547 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 3: you're a Democrat, you just frankly don't care about the 548 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 3: fact that they don't even have functional abilities to answer 549 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 3: a question. Also, AOC screwed up the equator with Venezuela, 550 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: which I'm I'm. 551 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: More, did you see this? I'm sorry I didn't. We 552 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,239 Speaker 2: could we could grab the audio of that. 553 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 3: She said, you can't just go to countries that are 554 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: below the equator and do whatever you want to them. 555 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: Venezuela is above the equator. Now, I actually am willing 556 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: to give a little bit more of a pass on that, 557 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 3: but it goes into the identity politics thing in her mind. Right, 558 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: if she had just said Latin America like that is 559 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 3: the right answer, but she decided to try to claim 560 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 3: that she knew where the equator was and didn't understand 561 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 3: that she Venezuela. 562 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: She leaned into sixth grade social st udies and came 563 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: up came up snake eyes on that one. 564 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: That's too bad. 565 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: I think that, unfortunately, one of the byproducts of social 566 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:16,239 Speaker 1: media as increasingly a dominant form of communication and all 567 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: the different platforms together is that politicians now are increasingly 568 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: they're influencers. 569 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: I mean their social media. 570 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: They've always been influencers, but I'm saying they're social media influences. 571 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: They're characters. They are entities online more than anything else. 572 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: And so a lot of these things just come into 573 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: do you like the way someone looks, do you like 574 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: the way they sound? Do you like their general style 575 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: and the kinds of things that they say? If they're 576 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: an abject moron with a history of terrible decision making, 577 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: and I don't know that a lot of people really care. 578 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: I think that that's increasingly what we're heading towards. You know, 579 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: it used to didn't it used to be like they 580 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: would have you know, go back to like I don't know, 581 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: the eighteen eighties or something. People would do that. The 582 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: politician would do the train stop tour, and you go 583 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: to some places and give some speeches, but you really, 584 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, you read the speech in the newspaper and 585 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: you read what the party platform was, and you kind 586 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: of just went from there. 587 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: Now it's like, I like that guy. He seems nice. 588 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna vote. Here's here's a good question for you. 589 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 3: What percentage of this audience is active on social media? 590 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 7: Oh? 591 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: I think if you include Facebook, eighty eighty to ninety percent. 592 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: Oh you think that high? With with with with Facebook? 593 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I think we probably have more Facebook people than 594 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: anything else by far. I think Twitter is less than 595 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: five percent, or ex is less than five percent. I 596 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: think TikTok is less than one percent. And what else 597 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: am I saying? Instagram is probably like thirty forty percent? 598 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: I would say of our of our people are on Instagram. 599 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 3: So my point on this is our audience is gonna 600 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: hear these aoc answers. Is anybody who watches MSNBC going 601 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: to ever hear these aoc answers? Is anybody who watches 602 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: CNN ever gonna hear these aoc answers? Are they going 603 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: to penetrate into I'm not on Facebook personally, but I 604 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 3: understand that they've kind of pivoted Facebook more back towards Hey, 605 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 3: here's the kid, grandkid photos and less politics. 606 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't. 607 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: I think those channels plays they view it as a betrayal. Actually, 608 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: if you show your home team looking dumb, they get 609 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: mad at you. It doesn't matter that it's news. It 610 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: doesn't matter that the other sides talking about it. I 611 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: think if you're an MS NOW viewer, I love saying 612 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: it because they had to change the channel because the 613 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: brand is such trash. If you're a CNN viewer, which 614 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: they're going to start, I mean, they're just going to 615 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: be selling Swarovsky crystals on that thing all day. 616 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: Just give it time. 617 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: If you look at what their expectations are with the audience, 618 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: truth that is bothersome to their audience results in anger 619 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: at the host and ratings going down, no question. 620 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 3: I by the way, I know you make fun of 621 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 3: how much I care about this. CNN is going to 622 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 3: be either independent or it's going to be purchased by Paramount. 623 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 3: And there's now talk that all of the Warner Brothers universe, 624 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 3: which is HBO, which is CNN. All these different things 625 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 3: may be swiveling back towards Paramount buying them, which is 626 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 3: significant because Larry and David Ellison, who are prominent in 627 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 3: the paramount world, are not that I almost cursed. 628 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: Are not. 629 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 3: Bonkers, right, They're not crazy, They're not insane. And I 630 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 3: do wonder what CNN might look like if they had 631 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 3: owners who were just normal. And so that's going to 632 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 3: be maybe decided in the next six months or so, 633 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 3: even as CNN has lost two thirds of his audience 634 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 3: in the last several years. But that's one to kind 635 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 3: of put a pin in and think about where things 636 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: might be headed there. 637 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: Have you ever come across a really serious intent birdwatcher 638 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: who can be like, oh, that's a double crested cormorant, 639 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: or that's like a ruby throated warbler or something. 640 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 3: I know that bird people are crazy in terms of 641 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 3: their interest in bird feeders and everything else. 642 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 2: I've never known an actual. 643 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: Die hard, because my dad was one for a while, 644 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: but I've come across some that are truly like next 645 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: level and how detailed you're like a bird watcher of 646 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: corporate media mergers and acquisitions. 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Bug was texting with me 685 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 3: about this curling controversy. 686 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 2: We'll have some fun with that. 687 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 3: Obama has got a lot of thoughts and I'll play 688 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 3: the latest for you on Nancy Guthrie, as there now 689 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 3: is a suggestion, according to an email sent to TMZ, 690 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 3: that Nancy Guthrie may have been taken across the border 691 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 3: into Mexico. As that story now enters its third week 692 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 3: of uncertainty. All that headed that in the direction of 693 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 3: our number two. 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