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Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Monday, November third. It is election

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Speaker 1: eve in five places, actually, but no matter where you are,

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Speaker 1: if you're not in one of those five places, you

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Speaker 1: damn sure better be paying attention to what happens tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: And with that, welcome to this election eve episode of

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Speaker 1: Amy and TJ. Do you call it off year or

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Speaker 1: odd year? Elections?

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Speaker 2: Off year is what I've always called it, Yes, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: we've got two big off yr elections right near to

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Speaker 2: us in New York and New Jersey. And man, have

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Speaker 2: we been inundated with political ads?

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Speaker 1: I sometimes enjoy them, and they have been effective I

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Speaker 1: think in this area. But yes, folks, it's it's hard

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Speaker 1: is someone to get someone to think in Colorado or

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Speaker 1: Texas or Detroit or wherever, why they need to care

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Speaker 1: out who's elected mayor of New York or do they

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Speaker 1: Is everyone paying as much attention as we think? We're

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Speaker 1: inundated obviously because we're here, But even in news and

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Speaker 1: news coverage, so much talk has been about this race.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to separate us from the rest of

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Speaker 2: the country in terms of our perspective, but this has

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Speaker 2: obviously been a huge topic of conversation. The New York

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Speaker 2: City mayor. In politics, Trump gets asked about it, and

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Speaker 2: clearly there is going to be It would seem some

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Speaker 2: sort of there will be ripple effects if Mom Donnie

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Speaker 2: is elected, as most people believe he will be, in

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Speaker 2: terms of how then the relationship. I mean, there is

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Speaker 2: no relationship between Trump and Mom Donnie. But can that

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Speaker 2: relationship be used in the Republican's favor? I know that

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Speaker 2: sounds crazy, But now if you've got a common enemy,

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Speaker 2: and you've got somebody who you can call a communist,

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Speaker 2: so you can call not a terrorists. I don't think

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Speaker 2: he's gone that far, but certainly called him a communist.

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Speaker 2: Now you've got something and someone to rally against.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they've made clear that they don't necessarily mind,

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Speaker 1: and he has spent so much. Trump a part of

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Speaker 1: the brace here. But the five places, let's get to that.

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Speaker 1: First of all, we have off year odd year elections.

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Speaker 1: Why we do these states have their different reasons? I

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Speaker 1: couldn't actually Robes come up with. I didn't realize it

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Speaker 2: I didn't either, I did not. I know midterm elections

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Speaker 2: are a big deal. Obviously, we know that every two

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Speaker 2: years after the presidential election. You usually see a sea

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Speaker 2: change in Congress. A lot of times people rail against

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Speaker 2: the current administration, and whoever was in power, it switches.

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Speaker 2: So those are big, I catching, headline grabbing elections. I

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Speaker 2: didn't realize an off year election. We're talking five states.

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Speaker 1: Just five on New Jersey, Virginia, Mississippi, Louisiana, Kentucky. Now

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Speaker 1: New Jersey start doing this in nineteen forty seven. I

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Speaker 1: can't remember which party it was, but the president was

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Speaker 1: so popular that they said, hey, we don't want that

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Speaker 2: Our probably the other party then, so yes.

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Speaker 1: It was. So they said, let's separate it so we

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Speaker 1: don't have any national influence on our state elections. That

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Speaker 1: kind of makes sense.

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Speaker 2: It makes total sense because most people go out to

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Speaker 2: the polls in presidential elections, who wouldn't necessarily go out

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Speaker 2: at a midtern and certainly not in an off your election.

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Speaker 2: So that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: That does make sense, and it's kind of expensive to

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Speaker 1: separate the two, so to do so means you're really

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Speaker 1: mind that. Now the other states, what do you see

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Speaker 1: louis the Southern states. There are Southern states. Now. There

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Speaker 1: are several trains of thought as to why they do it,

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Speaker 1: and some go back to voter suppression in the Jim

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Speaker 2: That also makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Some of these states did not want federal control of

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Speaker 1: Mississippi did this outright. They were blatant about theirs. There's

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Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense. I did not know that,

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Speaker 2: Now New York City mayor, I actually I get confused

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Speaker 2: as to how many years, Like obviously the president it's

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Speaker 2: every four years, Senators every six years, members of Congress

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Speaker 2: every four years, correct, and then mayors different is two years.

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Speaker 2: It's two years senators, senators, six congressmen and women, two

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Speaker 1: Extreme It's been a mess, just really with Mayor Adams.

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Speaker 1: I mean just with scandal controversy. He was indicted, all right,

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Speaker 2: So was our president.

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Speaker 1: Oh and again he won it, he lost it. He's

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Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff, you know. But what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: In this election. Cuomo is in there, and look, it

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Speaker 1: would be history first Muslim mayor of New York. At

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Speaker 1: this point if he were not to win, everybody would

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Speaker 1: he has been well ahead double digits. Doesn't even say

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Speaker 2: He's been in double digits, and then when Eric Adams

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Speaker 2: this point, short of Curtis Sliwa, who is the third candidate,

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Speaker 2: that would be the only reason why anybody I think

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Speaker 2: either way. Curtis Leiwa has been defiant. He is not.

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Speaker 2: He even said if I got hit by a bus

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Speaker 2: and died right now, my name would still be on

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Speaker 2: the ballot. That's how defiant he's been. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: And there was something refreshing about him. But judging by

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Speaker 1: given a support to Cuomo. So it looks like, Momdani,

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Speaker 1: I mean, should be a cakewalk if you go buy

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Speaker 2: The impact of the New York City mayoral race is

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Speaker 2: significant this year for all of those reasons you just said,

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Speaker 2: Democrats have had to choose whether or not to align

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Speaker 2: And we've seen make people make very different choices for

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Speaker 1: They're going with the winner, with the front runner right now,

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Speaker 1: and he has been well out ahead. But is this

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Speaker 1: the direction, some would say, and some have said publicly yes.

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Speaker 1: The idea of AOC Bernie Sanders and Mom Donnie standing

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Speaker 1: Newsom we were talking about earlier. He is. He is

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Speaker 1: a a lot of peop will look at him, say

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Speaker 1: he's the most visible Democrat right now, but he's not

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Speaker 1: necessarily the leader of the party. So this city, the

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because I know you and I have been

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Speaker 2: watching some of the coverage, even just with the volume down,

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Speaker 2: the lines of people in New York City waiting to

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Speaker 2: been going on for a while. They say that so far.

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Speaker 2: This is the latest thing from the New York Times.

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Speaker 2: Seven hundred and thirty five thousand New Yorkers have voted early.

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Speaker 2: That is four times as many as in the twenty

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Speaker 2: this is an off election year. It's not tied to

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Speaker 2: So that is truly remarkable that it's gotten to that

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Speaker 2: point where people feel like they're livelihoods at stake. There

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Speaker 2: have been a lot of promises made by mom Donnie

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Speaker 2: that he's going to make this city affordable, but at

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Speaker 2: so you have people who run Wall Street saying they're

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Speaker 2: elected in New York City. It's interesting to see what

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Speaker 2: be a mass exodus of the rich leaving New York City.

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Speaker 2: Will people change.

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Speaker 1: Good riddance, get him out of here, and someone cares.

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Speaker 2: But they need the tax dollars. That's the problem. That's

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Speaker 2: the whole way he funds this and his agenda and

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Speaker 1: What a night though. If we're about we're on the

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Speaker 1: verge of electing the first Muslim mayor of New York City,

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Speaker 1: that's incredible. That should be celebrated. I think that is awesome.

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Speaker 1: This is not a policy thing. This is where the

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Speaker 1: But mister mom Donnie, can you please tell some of

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Speaker 2: This happened? Was it yesterday? It was yesterday. It was

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Speaker 1: But he has a crazed bunch and they haven't seen

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Speaker 1: anything like him before, doing TikTok videos whatever. He's reached

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Speaker 1: them the way he's reached them. They this is their guy. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it is fascinating to see what happens now across the river.

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Speaker 1: It's been my favorite race when in terms of political ads,

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Speaker 1: the race for governor of New Jersey, which is a

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Speaker 1: race Jack Chitarelli and Mickey Cheryl.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the Democrat statistically tied. Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not supposed to be. She had an earlier lead,

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Speaker 1: but this thing has gotten tight Titan as of late.

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Speaker 1: And he has a habit of breaking late, does he not.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: In his last election he looked like he was out

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Speaker 2: And so this is his third time attempting to become

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Speaker 2: but he he has come close. And you of you

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Speaker 2: have called some of the advertising that we've been watching effective.

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Speaker 1: It has been. I mean, I don't know who did it,

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Speaker 1: has been effective. In terms of me. I don't know

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Speaker 1: The other governor's race, keeping an eye on Virginia. This

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Speaker 2: This is a really cool race. Representative Abigail Spanberger and

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Speaker 2: And certainly there will be first all around. In some

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Speaker 1: Were going through the line, you're kind of doing a

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Speaker 1: They go the direction opposite the White House. I thought

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Speaker 2: Because you said New Jersey too.

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Speaker 1: There's only five states.

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Speaker 2: Saying this because I did the same thing. I don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, North Dakota is insane. Okay, we're a stick

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Speaker 2: Yes, Representative Abigail Spanberger, she's ahead quite quite a bit, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: then well, please continue my life.

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Speaker 1: It's my fat I gave her a little signal that

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Speaker 2: Get to showing them how the sausage is made.

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Speaker 1: And we come back, folks, why everybody's paying attention to

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Speaker 2: Back as we continue our conversation on the big day tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Off your LuFe might not sound like that big of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they set off California set off the redistricting race

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Speaker 2: This is called Proposition fifty and this is about adding

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Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know those split anymore because if they go

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Speaker 2: Lost count to set. Yeah, but yes, so California that is,

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Speaker 1: The other one here that will end on is you

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Speaker 2: Shila Jackson Lee held that seat YEP for almost thirty years,

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Speaker 1: You know, no matter what you think about her politics,

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Speaker 2: You don't know a lot of congressmen and women's names,

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. Most members of Congress are not

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Speaker 2: Yes, And yes so Vester Turner. He he died in

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Speaker 1: He was a Houston mayor.

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Speaker 2: But but it was just after.

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Speaker 2: That was so free Here is so sixteen candidates are

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Speaker 1: So that means they're going to still be without representation

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Speaker 2: It'll ultimately be I don't want to put you on

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Speaker 2: How do they top two candidates? That's I actually just

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Speaker 1: Well, anybody got fifty one to be over, but I

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Speaker 2: It, I think so. And I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: So so I was no, no, as you said that, I was.

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Speaker 2: That's what I have to look it up DMV, Right,

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Speaker 2: We should probably know before now that we should probably

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Speaker 1: All right, folks, we always appreciate you hanging with us.

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Speaker 1: For now, I'm TJ. Holmes, just on behalf of Amy Roebuck.

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