1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: This is a headgum podcast. Hi guys, I'm aga wodem 2 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: and welcome to Thanks Dad. I was raised by a 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: single mom and I don't have a relationship with my dad, 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: and I don't think I'm ever gonna have a relationship 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: with my dad because he has gone ahead and died 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: and that's crazy gets me every time and gets my 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 1: guests every time. So on this podcast, I'm sitting down 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: with father figers who are old enough to be my 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: dad or are just dads themselves. In this case, I 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: don't think Bobby's old enough to be my dad and 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: he's just a dad. Oh that's gonna fuck your career 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: saying you're age. Oh my gosh. I'll get to ask 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: the questions I've always wanted to ask a dad, like 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: how do I know the guy I'm dating is right 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: for me? Can you teach me to change a tire 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: on the car I don't have yet? Can you go 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: with me to buy that car so that I don't 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: get bamboozled by a car salesman? Is that still a 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: thing in modern times? Do you think car salesmen are 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: still bamboozling women. 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: Every day, every every every second of every day. They 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: are okay. 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: Oh, that's oh, and that is that's right. They think 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: they are. They think they've got the one of Okay. Anyway, guys, 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: you just heard the voice of my Dad for the Day. 26 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: You know my next guest friend. Movies like Inside Out, 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: IF and Brother Nature, The show Me, Myself and I 28 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: and His ninth season run on Saturday Night Live. My Kid, Frankly, 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: please welcome my Dad for the Day. Bobby moynihan. 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: Hello, daughter, it's me. Dad died too. 31 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: Your dad died as well? Oh no, oh my gosh. 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: There's there are so many things out here that can 33 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: kill us. And the piece of advice I'm going to 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: ask you about at the end kind of touches on death, 35 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: because I end every episode asking my dad for the 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: day a piece of advice that I think dads know. 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: And if you don't know, you better pretend you know 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Act like an authority figure, and yeah, 39 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: I will heed your advice. Okay, Bobby, you had a 40 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: dad he passed. Can you tell me what he was like? Nope, 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 1: I gotta go, Okay, Dark, I'll see you later. Guys, Yes, 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: of course. Uh my father was. 43 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: How long do we have all the. 44 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: Time in the world. Fred not this is what this 45 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: entire podcast is about, My dear. 46 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: That that's crazy. Uh, it's funny when you say that. 47 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: It's like, I feel like I've said this a million times. 48 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: But now that I am, I'm a father of two. 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: Now I have a seven year old and a one 50 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: year old, and I have a very very different view 51 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: of my father, like from before, from after the seven 52 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: year old, after the one year old, Like it keeps changing, right, 53 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: but right now I feel like I have a for 54 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: the first time, I have the most realistic vision of 55 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: who he like. When someone asked me that question, I 56 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: go like, Okay, my dad was a hard working kid. 57 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: His mother passed away when he was very young, so 58 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: he didn't have that, and his dad was a fireman 59 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: who was always working, So a lot of stuff going 60 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: on there. Don't think I really realized all of that 61 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: until much later in life, like that side of it. 62 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: And he had an epilepsy and he was an alcoholic, 63 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: so the two things you can't do is drink or drive. 64 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: And in his life he owned a gas station and 65 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: a liquor store. 66 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: Oh wow, perfect setup for an improv scene. Yeah, I 67 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: feel like, oh gosh, so Where did your dad grow up? 68 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: Uh, Brooks, I. 69 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: Didn't realize you were New York. You've got New York 70 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: blood in you. 71 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I grew up. I've lived there in Mahawaii. 72 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: So you say his mom pass away he was younger. 73 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: You have a different view of him now that you 74 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: are a father. You had a different view this with 75 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: the seven year old, with your one year old. What 76 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: was your view of him when you were young? What 77 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: was your relationship like with him? 78 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: Just trying to impress dad, just wanting Dad's attention. Dad 79 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: was very hard working, worked at the liquor store, a 80 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: very big Giants fan. 81 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: Okay. 82 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: Uh wore Phil Simms. I don't think i've well, I 83 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: mean like I had. I'm trying to be funny, but 84 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: it was very rare to see him outside of a 85 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: Phil Simms New York Giants jersey. He had multiple He 86 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,239 Speaker 2: wore it to both my high school graduation and my sister, 87 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: Like he just wore that was a thing of like 88 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: Kevin Smith, Like, where's like hockey jersey? 89 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like that. Okay, what were the things 90 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: you would do to try to impress him when you 91 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: were younger. 92 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 2: That's the first time in forty seven years. I ever 93 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: compared my father to Kevin Smith. I just want that 94 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: to be on record. It's a good comparison. It paints 95 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: a picture. I will say. Immediately, I'm like, oh, okay, 96 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: got it. I understand the opposite of me. I look 97 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: exactly like Kevin Smith. I played Kevin Smith on as 98 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: I know my father opposite. He looked like he was 99 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: six foot tall. He was six feet big, irish, white hair, 100 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: like like a Chevy Chase almost, but bigger, like if 101 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: Chevy Chase lived in the Bronx. Yeah, and wasn't severely racist. 102 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: Okay, got to know your dad wasn't a racist? Okay, 103 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: well he. 104 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: Grew up sure my dad. I always said, drunk uncle 105 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: is pretty much the idea was just like, hey, I'm 106 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: not racist, but I don't have the right terminology. That 107 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: was the whole interested in. I mean like, I mean, well, 108 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: I mean well, it's like that was that was that 109 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: was that was that he grew up in that time. Unfortunate. 110 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: Okay, did you feel like you were close to your 111 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: dad growing up? Yes? 112 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: And no, Like I don't think I realized what was 113 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: happening a much later. Like I was just like dad 114 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: what's up? And he was just like, get the fuck 115 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: out of here, like kind of like I'm tired, like 116 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: you know, like it was. It was a lot of that, 117 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: but uh, we we yes, we were we were no no, no, 118 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: absolutely no. 119 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah you don't listen, he's not here. I'm not 120 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: gonna tell on you. 121 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it. 122 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: I honestly just want to know what it was like. 123 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm so fascinated by dads and people's relationships with them, 124 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: given I didn't have a relationship with my dad, So 125 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, what was it like for you? 126 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you say you were trying to impress that 127 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: that's why were perfect for SNL. 128 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think everyone who works at SNL has daddy issues. 129 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: Maybe that's not fair because maybe I can't speak for 130 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: all of Mike. I don't know everyone who works there. 131 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't hurt relationship. Yeah, daddy issues is very helpful. 132 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: It's I feel like Lauren knows how to pick them. 133 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand. So, your your dad was sort 134 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: of Kevin Smith or Chevy Cha. 135 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: My dad was like Irish Irish Catholic, six foot tall, 136 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: Irish Catholic ext went into the Marines because this was 137 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 2: my dad. His father got remarried to a woman right 138 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: around when he was graduating high school, and he didn't know. 139 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: He found out at high school graduation. It was kind 140 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: of like hey, I've been dating this woman. We are 141 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: now married. And my father went, great, I'm going to 142 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: the Marines. Oh bye, okay, yeah, join the Marines. Got 143 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: the tattoos and all this stuff. And a week later 144 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: they were like, you have epilepsy. You can't be a marine. 145 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: And he was like all right, and out of the Marines. 146 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: Y back home, back home, out of the marine, okay. 147 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: Funny like and like this and like this is like 148 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: stuff like now like now at forty seven, I go, 149 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: how did that happen? How did that work? How did 150 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: you get out? Like what was the thing that did 151 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: they see? You have a seizure? But I'll never be 152 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: able to ask. 153 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: Right, I mean, there's so many questions we won't be 154 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: able to ask her. Do you believe in heaven or hell? 155 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: I I was. I was raised Catholic, and now I 156 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: believe in like the movie Soul. 157 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah yeah, Jamie Foxx, Like I just go, like 158 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: I think there's like soul, got it? 159 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: Kind of right, like there's a place where your soul it's. 160 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: From and like and it goes back to yes. 161 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: And everything is just kind of smooth jazz. 162 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: That would be really nice if I were. 163 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: Coco Anything By Anything, Heaven by Pixar, I'm down with 164 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: You're like I believe that. 165 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: So was your dad particularly strict then if you grew 166 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: up Catholic? 167 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: I don't know what strict was the right word? Uh, 168 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: that wasn't it. We went to church because like it 169 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: was almost like they were like, we gotta go to 170 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: church because we have to. Like it was like they 171 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: hated it too, Like they were just they were I 172 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 2: think that was the part of parenting. They were like 173 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 2: the one thing you gotta do is what Jesus says. Okay, 174 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: Like you don't got to listen to me, asshole, but 175 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: you got to listen to Christ. 176 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: Like it was like that right right, Okay, it. 177 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: Was more of a threat and like he was like 178 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: a like just like an authority figure above my father. 179 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: Like that was it. I went to Catholic school, I 180 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: went to all that shit. 181 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: Okay, what were some of the ways you did connect 182 00:08:59,280 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: with your dad? 183 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: Jesus? 184 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: Damn, you really wish you would have read the email. 185 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, uh, I figured it was this. It's just 186 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: it's never easy to talk about. I'm just glad I'm 187 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: not weeping. No. 188 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, if you weep, I will probably weep. 189 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: You wouldn't be the first one on this podcast to 190 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: weep a little bit. 191 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: I get it. I just saw the SNL documentary, which 192 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: is like every ninety percent of the stuff I'm in, 193 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: I'm weeping, and I'm like, oh Jesus Christ, Poppy, what 194 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: did you do to yourself? No, Honestly, like I don't 195 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: know how to answer that question, but like I will 196 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: say this, Like when I was thirteen years old, I 197 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: worked full time in his liquor store, like helping customers, 198 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 2: running the cash register. Like I learned how to drive 199 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: really early because I was literally making deliveries, so driving illegally, 200 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: illegally driving okay, father hammered in the liquor store, hammered, 201 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yeah, and I'm driving around deliver I 202 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: delivered once to I believe were to like Richard Pryor's house. 203 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: Oh wow, lived in Nurseshelle. Like I had no idea 204 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: who he was, but like it was just yeah, one 205 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: hundred millions of those stories. I was delivering alcohol between 206 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: the ages of like sixteen, fifteen, sixteen seventeen, like not 207 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: of age, yeah right, and and like New Year's Eve 208 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: slammed selling champagne to drunk adults at fifteen. 209 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: Okay, what a life. You grew up fast. I grew 210 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: up very fast. Do you think that made your dad 211 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: proud ultimately, like that you were helping the family business 212 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: and stepping up to do the thing that he probably 213 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been doing. Yeah, yeah, okay. 214 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: I think I made him proud in weird ways, like 215 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 2: the are other weird ways. Uh, I was funny, I was. 216 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 2: He was funny, he was uh, he was sarcastic. It 217 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: was it was that he was like he was a 218 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: good he was a good guy. But I'm realizing now 219 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: he's just a big stupid boy. His mommy died when 220 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: he was young, and he never had that and he 221 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 2: spent the rest of his life drunk and thinking about 222 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 2: it and had probably had kids like too young and 223 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: dealt with that the rest of his life. Like that 224 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: never occurred to me, that he was never like an adult. 225 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you feel like you're having that realization in 226 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: real time? Right? Now right. Yeah, It's it's fascinating the 227 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: moment you realize your parents are and you are a 228 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: parent now, but you realize your parents are just little 229 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: girls and little boys who have kids, and some more mature, 230 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: some less mature, depending on the tools they have in 231 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: their toolkit and depending on what their life experience is life, 232 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: and depending on how safe they felt to emote, even 233 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: frankly like and it continues to be a light bulb 234 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: moment for me even in my relationship with my mom, 235 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: who's fantastic and I think did a great job raising 236 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: me and my siblings. But I'm like, oh my gosh, 237 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: just a girl who had some kids and is truck. 238 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: Did your mom get to do the Mother's Day Show? 239 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? She did the Mother's Day Show twice. 240 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: That's the best. 241 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's really really special. But it's also nerve 242 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: wracking because I'm like, I'm at work. It's like bring 243 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: your mom to work day, and you're kind of like, well, 244 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: this place stresses me out plenty. 245 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: Live television for nine years. That was the most nervous 246 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: I ever was. Was that much? 247 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so too. I'm most on edge both 248 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: of those episodes. I'm like most on Edge, and I 249 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: remember one of my castmates my first time being around 250 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: for a Mother's Day episode where their moms were coming. 251 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: One of my castmates was like, I'm so stressed. I 252 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: just don't want my mom to like go off the 253 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: rails on air, just kind of not say what's on 254 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: the cards. And in that moment that was a more 255 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: senior cast member, I was like, Oh good, I'm not alone. 256 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm worried my mom's going to 257 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: go off the rails. But it's just like having my 258 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: mom do this thing that is so outside of her 259 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: element and her frankly ability, and then it's being broadcast 260 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: to the entire country and then lives online for the 261 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: world is so yeah. It's so anxiety inducing and a 262 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: job that's already yeah, stressful. 263 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: In retrospect, it was fun. I was terrified. I'm sweating, 264 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 2: I'm terrified. I'm terrified, and my mom is locked and 265 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: oh wow, like ready to go. I said some jokes. 266 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: She definitely said something she was She went like okay, 267 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: like she definitely like improvised a tiny little bit, okay, 268 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: And I was like, in retrospect, I'm like, nice, mom, 269 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: Like you took it. And I'm good, good for you, 270 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: Good for you mom. Yeah, And she met Reese Witherspoon 271 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 2: and then and then for the rest of her life 272 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: because my mom passed away. Also only referred to who 273 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: as Reese. 274 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: Okay, because they're friends now first name basis. 275 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: I was talking at recent eight h I'm going to 276 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: see Reese Witherspoon tomorrow and I cannot wait to tell 277 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: her she was the kindest to my mother. 278 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: That's incredible. Was your dad proud of you going into 279 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: comedy since he was a funny guy. 280 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: Yes, I think yes. I think I can answer that 281 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: and say yes, he was proud in his own way, 282 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: Like I have said this in interviews and it's true. 283 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: Like I told my father I got SNL and he 284 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: was like, you got health insurance and I said, yeah, congratulations, 285 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: like like that was like it was more like I 286 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: get it. He the Hollywood, like that whole side of 287 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: it is not him. He's like, yeah, he came to 288 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: SNL once it was Eli Manning hosted Okay because he 289 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: wanted to meet Eli Manning because he was on the Giants, 290 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: and he literally met him and he was like, you're good, 291 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: but your brother's better, and don't get hurt like like 292 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: and treated him like fucking garbage. 293 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: Well, you know, you got to give it up to 294 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: the adults for not giving a fuck. Honestly, there's something 295 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: about that. But okay. 296 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: He asked my dad, he said, you want me to 297 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: sign My dad was wearing a Peyton Manning or Eli 298 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: Manning jersey and he goes, you want me to sign 299 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: that jersey? He goes no, Like he looked at him, like, 300 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: why you want to write on it? I paid a 301 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: hund booksman, this fucking idiot, Like it was amazing. 302 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: That's kind of cool. Your parents were very cool, not nonchalant. 303 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: My dad was like Italian Popeye. So yeah, okay, and 304 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: he was irish. 305 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: The picture is getting clearer clear because it's getting clear 306 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: and clear. You're doing a good job here of painting 307 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: his picture. So when he's like, cool, you have health insurance, 308 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: you understand then in that moment that he's proud of you. 309 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: Sounds like potentially a man of few words. 310 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: Loves his sports, yeah, loves to entertain, love to sing, like, 311 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: really loved music, was very like had like for like 312 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: a stupid Bronx guy. His favorites were like Lucciano Pavarotti, 313 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: like he loved with the three tenors. Oh, once he 314 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: found that, like he was like, this is music like 315 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: and he loved. He listened to like Frank Sina, a 316 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: lot of Frank Sinatra, a lot of like old jazz, 317 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: and like classical music. He had like a CD collection 318 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: that he took very very seriously. Yea, because he enjoyed 319 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: music a great deal. He loved to saying to himself 320 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: when he was a kid, he was in like the choir. 321 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: Oh that's incredible. Weird, weird the plot twist for me 322 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: because as you're painting the picture, I remember I said, 323 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: the picture's dining clearer. Now I'm like, oh, any things 324 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: I love that? 325 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, dollar heart, nickel brain. I feel like now I 326 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: can say that about him, like, you know, like good guy, 327 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: but yeah, a little damage. 328 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: Uh sure, we're all getting messed up. And I also 329 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: tend to think that no matter how much knowledge we 330 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: have now about the ways parenting impacts a child and 331 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: the person they become, I'm like, I want to have 332 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: kids one day. I'm like, and I'm sure they're going 333 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: to mess him up somehow, even with all my well, no. 334 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: Matter what you will, it's more just I feel like 335 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: going into parenting, I was terrified and like you think 336 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: it's gonna get easier, And now I'm a different kind 337 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: of terrified, which is when you realize everything you learned 338 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: doesn't matter right and all it is, especially I mean 339 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: like and also, to be honest, it's easier to talk 340 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: to you in a way because we should have launch 341 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: for the sole reason of like, we can speak to 342 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 2: each other on two different languages, which is a parent 343 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:11,239 Speaker 2: who's died and snol. Like it's two exclusive clubs you 344 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: don't you want to be in, but it sucks sometimes. Yes, 345 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: it's just a fascinating I. 346 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: Think about it. I truly do think about this often 347 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: where I'm like, I read things about parenting just because 348 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: I'm curious, and even having gone to therapy myself, and 349 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: it's not mind too. Therapy is not so intense. Please 350 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: what are you saying? Please? 351 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: No? No, no. I just realized remember the point I 352 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: was trying to make, which is now I go It's 353 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: just parenting to me is just preparing them for when 354 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: I'm gone, because that's all that life is, is adults 355 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: dealing with the person who taught them how to would 356 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: be an adult is gone. Like now, that just feels like, Oh, 357 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 2: all I got to do is make sure that they're 358 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 2: gonna just not drink themselves stupid when I'm gone, because 359 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 2: they don't know how to do anything for themselves, right, 360 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 2: because I think that's what happened in my debt. 361 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: Okay, yes, well then do you think that? Do you 362 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: think that your dad then did prepare you for his absence? 363 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: Would you say he did? 364 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: No, not in any way? Uh? Well, but but I 365 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: was prepared. He didn't prepare me, but the things he 366 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: did prepared me because I spent most of my childhood 367 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 2: fearing that he was going to die. There were multiple 368 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: times I was in the hospital like this is it? 369 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: Say you're goodbye? Oh no, he made it. Okay, well 370 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: I'm happy this time the sixth time. It's a little annoying. 371 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 372 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 2: Uh And you start to get that though in college 373 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 2: before cell phones. Mm hmm. Come home, he's not going 374 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: to make it. He's in the hospital, he's not going 375 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: to make it. Drove all the way home, going I 376 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,959 Speaker 2: gotta get a suit, and he's fine, and you're like, 377 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: fucking I drove, I. 378 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: Drove two hours for this shit. Can he please just go? 379 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: You know? 380 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: Like that starts to happen. So it prepared. When he died, 381 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: like it was like, oh no, way, this time it 382 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: really happened. Oh shit, Like that was it was a 383 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: little you know like that. 384 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: Did you ever think of him as sort of resilient 385 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: though in some sense, given that he had all these 386 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: scares but then would still make it through it. 387 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but like I used to think it was 388 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: a skill, and he thought it was a skill. He 389 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 2: was a prout, like you know, like you could hit 390 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 2: me in a face with a two by floor, I'll 391 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 2: get up and walk away, like you know, like like 392 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, that's great. You know professional wrestlers do 393 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: that too, but then they take the mask off and 394 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: they have to deal with their lives. 395 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 396 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to take the pain. 397 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't need to go this way. This is not 398 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: the route we have to take. So then it's like, unintentionally, 399 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: as a result of just how he was living his life, 400 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: you do feel like you were prepared. It wasn't like 401 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: a function of him sitting you down and going these 402 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: are the values I want to instill in you. Yeah. 403 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: No, I had an alcoholic father who, yeah, pickled himself, 404 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: his whole life and worsened his injuries in his inside 405 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: of him slowly until until it until it killed him. Yeah. 406 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you feel scared of him? I know you 407 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: were scared of the situation in him going, but you 408 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: felt scared of him too. 409 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I should. I was scared of him, 410 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 2: But I'm I'm one of the lucky ones that like 411 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: it was never like he never hit me, like you know, 412 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: like it wasn't like it was it was mentally and 413 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: fit like you know, abusive, but never physically, So like that's. 414 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: Good, right, right, Like that's a positive, I guess, And 415 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 3: but scared in the fact of like walking out, like okay, back, 416 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: different because he's around or or and different because he's 417 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 3: around and drunk. 418 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: Okay, did it feel like then you were closer to 419 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: your mom? Is that someone you felt like? Oh yeah, yeah, 420 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: you felt that nurturing sense from. 421 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: Dad died a couple of months after my first daughter 422 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 2: was born, and it felt like he was waiting for it. 423 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: It felt like he was waiting he saw her and 424 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 2: then like he gave up and then six months later, 425 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 2: out of nowhere, watching Rup Paul's drag Race midnight with 426 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: my wife get a phone call, Mom, I'm gonna I'm 427 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: gonna an ambulance in New York. I'm in LA. I'm 428 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: like what yeah, And she's like, I just wanted to 429 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: say I love you. And I'm like, oh, no, what yeah? What? 430 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: No, that was. 431 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: The last time I talked to her. Yeah. 432 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry, Bobby, that is It's okay. You didn't well, no, 433 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: I didn't, but yeah, well you claimed to have done 434 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: one of them at the beginning of the night. Yeah. 435 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: I didn't say anything about the second. I would never 436 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 2: murder my mother. I wouldn't even jump. 437 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: It sounds like a sweetie. So now you understand parenting 438 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: to be preparing your children in a sense for when 439 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: you're not here. To add more to that, yeah. 440 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: Yes, I go like I see things with the first 441 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 2: even with the first daughter, compared to the second daughter, 442 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 2: you start to like, you just act different. The first daughter, 443 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: I was putting my nose, my finger under her nose 444 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: when she was sleeping, make sure she was still breathing, 445 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: like you know what I mean. Like it's like you're 446 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: so like my god of my conduct, like you know 447 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, And the second kid, my wife 448 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 2: jokes around like, well, I'll walk in the room, like 449 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: I'll get scared because I forget that she's here, Like yeah, 450 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 2: like it's like it's just it's just literally just easier 451 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 2: because you've done it before, like and like even just that, 452 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: you go like, Okay, I've been a parent for a 453 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: couple of years and we have a bit of an 454 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: age gap at seven and one, so like we had 455 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: some time to relax. We had a pandemic to raise 456 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: a kid, and then we had an actor strike to 457 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: raise the second kid. And yeah, it's been nice. I've 458 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: spent more time with both my daughters and my father 459 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: spent with me in his entire life, right, Like, yeah, 460 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 2: it's different. 461 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: Does that make you feel like you're doing something right then, 462 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: because I feel like I hear parents talk about their 463 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: guilt all the time and they feel like they're doing 464 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: things wrong and they have no idea if they're doing 465 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: it right. But does at least getting to spend more 466 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: time than your dad spent with you with your daughters 467 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: make you feel like, Okay, well this feels right. 468 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: I feel like I could confidently say I'm doing better 469 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: but not right all the. 470 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 3: Time, Like I mean I guess, yeah, yeah. 471 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: There's well It's also like the thing that really sucks 472 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: about parenting is like focusing on like, Okay, what I 473 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: got to do is like I have to I have 474 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: to be more strict with her, and I got to 475 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: tell her, like you must finish all your chicken nuggets. 476 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 2: And you're doing this while you're looking at your phone. 477 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: You're thinking this while you're looking at your phone, and 478 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: you're realizing that what you're doing is you're imprinting that 479 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: you don't give a shit because you're just on your phone. 480 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 2: Like it's more like what's really important is putting your 481 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 2: phone down, yeah, and being present. Like it's just like 482 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: you there's little things like you don't even know you're doing, 483 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden they do it back. 484 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 2: It's like having the giving birth the mirrors. 485 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't that. I just imagine that is so bizarre 486 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: because I imagine being a parent, you become hyper aware of 487 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: your own behaviors, so such as like saying you need 488 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: to finish your chicken nuggets while you're on the phone. 489 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: Do I hear that? I'm kind of like, yeah, you're 490 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: letting her know she has to eat her dinner. But 491 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: you happen to be on your phone. But you're right 492 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: that there might be some messaging in that that, like, 493 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't really give a shit about about this interaction. 494 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: No one says you're going to spend ten years fending 495 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: off a child who knows all your tricks but doesn't 496 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: know how to use them yet, that makes sense. So 497 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: you're just looking at someone who's doing it wrong, going, 498 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 2: you son of a bitch. 499 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I. 500 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: Taught you that, but you have no idea, Like you're 501 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: just like it's crazy. It's like watching a bank robbery 502 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: that you did and don't remember. 503 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you put a lot of pressure on yourself then, 504 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: knowing that your children are mirrors in that way? Now 505 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: that you have a seven year old, for instance, before 506 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: the one year old was here and you're spending time 507 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: in the pandemic, do you feel like you're putting a 508 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on yourself during that period less? 509 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: Now I'm easier letting dumb shit go. I mean, like 510 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: I know now and can say like I'm very dramatic, 511 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: and I can I am so someone who finds it 512 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: easy to play the victim and may even cause problems 513 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: to be the victim of. 514 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: And this did you learn this in therapy. 515 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 2: Uh, I learned it more from just watching my kids 516 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: do it right back to me and going, man, all right, 517 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: but but yes, that therapy didn't hurt, you know what 518 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: I mean, like but but yeah, but like, but it's 519 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: also that it's it's you spend a lot of years 520 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 2: being embarrassed by that, being embarrassed like, oh my god, 521 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 2: how did I do that? For so? I mean, I 522 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 2: wish I could go back to SNL first day and go, hey, guys, sorry, 523 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: I'm back. I learned some things about something out, I 524 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: figured something out, and I larned. I would that that's it. 525 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: I would walk in there every day and go hi, Laurie, mean, 526 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 2: because that's what I wanted to do and I should 527 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: have done it, But instead I went in every day 528 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: going hello. 529 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: Sir, oh boy, you know hey, yes, yes, huh yes, 530 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: the quickest little tangentle exchange. I mean, it doesn't have 531 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: to be quick. But now I'm just that comment you 532 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: made about how you might have showed up at SNL 533 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: differently the way you were showing up at SNL you 534 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: believe is a function of what. 535 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: Survival. I mean, just it was. It was nine years 536 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 2: of Please don't take this away from me. 537 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: Did you feel scared that you would not get another job? 538 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: Or was SNL just your dream? 539 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 2: It's just stupid. It's fucking insane. It's crazy to love 540 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: something your whole to be a comedy fan and love 541 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: something your whole life and look up to it and 542 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: it and it to be a cultural phenomen like it's 543 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: part of it's one of the things. It's one of 544 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 2: the things, and then all of a sudden, you're there. 545 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: I used to it's this sentence, it's this sentence. After 546 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 2: my first year. I said this sentence to my mom. 547 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: She was like, was it the summer after my first year? 548 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: And like, you're everyone's different, Every person in your life 549 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: is different. You're different, everyone has changed. And my mom said, 550 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: what's wrong? Like you seem down kind of thing. And 551 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: I was just like, I don't know how to explain 552 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: this to you, mom. I was on a mechanical bowl 553 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 2: with Tom Hanks left. 554 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: Bobby. I mean, I really do want to get lunch 555 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: with you about the SNL of it all, because and 556 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: the dead parent of it all. Because you're supposed to 557 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: be elated, but it's such a gosh, it's such whiplash too. 558 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: It's such it's it's such an emotional whiplash, I think 559 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: being on SNL, which is an incredible opportunity. Not complaining, 560 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's. 561 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 2: It's also like my view of SNL when I was 562 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: on it. I was also there for the fortieth, so 563 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 2: I know a little bit of what you're going through 564 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 2: right now. I can't imagine what it's like being there 565 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 2: for the fiftieth. I can't imagine because I was there 566 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: for the fortieth. 567 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: What did you pick up on in the fortieth What 568 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: were the vibes? 569 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: Well, everything changed before there was a before and after. 570 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 2: There was two before and afters for me at SNL 571 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 2: when Seth left and the fortieth, and like they were 572 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: kind of close to each other, like but like too 573 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 2: as far as like when I first got there, Amy 574 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 2: and Darryl were still there and like Shoemaker and like 575 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: it was still old SNL or or what at that 576 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: time was considered old SNL, the Kristin era, the Kristen 577 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: Bill Hayter and the era, you know, the that era. 578 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 2: I came into the tail end of that and started 579 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: kind of the me Tarn Vanessa, that Jay Farrow that era. 580 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: So I saw this switch, this change where kind of 581 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: people left and well, people who had worked there for 582 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: forty years were gone, and it was bringing in kind 583 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: of the new era. I remember like we were never 584 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: in digital shorts, and by the time I left, I 585 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: was rarely rehearsing because we were shooting for twenty four 586 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: hours straight, you know. So like I saw like a 587 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: different I saw the transition. I feel like I was 588 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: there in a transitional period. So the fortieth for me 589 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: was like space camp. Like it was like it was nuts. 590 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: But I can't imagine ramped up for the fifty. Like 591 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: even just even just being around in California, it has 592 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: changed my life. My wife was in Wicked on Broadway 593 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: and I'm on Snel and we went. It's like our 594 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: house is filled with insane trauma right now. We went 595 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: to city Walk the other day, and city Walk, the 596 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: entirety of Universal City Walk is just Saturday Night Live 597 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: and Wicked. 598 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: That's wild. 599 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: It was wild. I did, by the way, I did 600 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: buy this at a city Walk and you're on it. 601 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm on it? What is it? Where? 602 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: What right? 603 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: Mug at CityWalk? Oh my gosh, I'm next to Bobby 604 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: on the Oh my snel mug from city Walk drunk uncle. 605 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: That is incredible. Gosh, now this is a dad podcast, but. 606 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we just made it ANML podcast. 607 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. It's like it's like 608 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: you did boot camp. You did the same boot camp 609 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: I did, and we. 610 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: Were both in the same war. 611 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: Yes, and so we have to go remember that. Gosh. 612 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: I have so many questions now I've been my trauma 613 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: has kicked in, and I like, did you have your 614 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: first child at what point in your tenure at SNL 615 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: is after you left SNL after Yeah? 616 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I couldn't have done both. I would have died. 617 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: I would have exploded. I watched Bill Hater have a 618 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 2: kid in the middle of SNL and like, saw what 619 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: it did to him or like, so just the different 620 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: people he like, it's you just don't sleep anyway if 621 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: you're on SNL. So I can't imagine both. Yeah, got 622 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: married and had a kid within a year of getting 623 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: off of SNL, and uh, seven year old and then 624 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: we did I yeah, yeah, now we have one year old. 625 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: You did IVF and you have a one year old. 626 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: I was gonna say we did IVF. It took a while. 627 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 2: We didn't kind of like stalled during pandemic and now 628 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: then it worked and here. 629 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you were on SNL and it was sort 630 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: of like that energy of please don't take this away, 631 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: please don't take this away. Was your desire to get 632 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: married and be a dad any part of your decision 633 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: to leave or what was that? 634 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: Like, I mean, it's funny in retrospect now I think 635 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: back and I go, I met my wife like a 636 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: couple weeks before I got SNL, okay, And when I 637 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: got S and L, I called my mom and then 638 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: I called her and like we had gone on like 639 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: a couple days, like it was like we're but like 640 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: I think I just knew, and like we dated all 641 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: throughout SNL. At one point in the middle of SNL, 642 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 2: we were like she kind of she was on Broadway, 643 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: so it was like every like we never saw we 644 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: tried to see each other whenever we could, and and 645 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: she kind of went like, we're we either have to 646 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: get married, like what are we doing? And I went 647 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: like we can't do this, and we broke up for 648 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: a little while, but it very much it very much 649 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: felt like we were both going like we have to 650 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: break up with this because this is too much, and 651 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: the second we did, we went like, oh man, okay, 652 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: so when we get back together, we'll get married, Like, 653 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: let's just wait a little while so we don't look 654 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: like idiots. Yeah, and that's that's like what it felt like. 655 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: And we got back together and we've been together ever 656 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: since and got married. The second we had like a day. 657 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: Off during the time you were dating and you were 658 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: on SNL, she was on Broadway. Obviously time is limited. 659 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: Was Monday night your date night? 660 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: Yes, very much, so like Monday was a big deal 661 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: for us. It was Monday was our Sunday. 662 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: Okay, yep, I don't I know it. That's the day 663 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: every SNL person is going on dates much Monday Mondays. 664 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: It's Mondays. So when you guys decided to have your 665 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: first child, which seems like it happened pretty much right away, 666 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: did you feel ready to be a parent, Like, did 667 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: you feel like this is something I'm ready to do 668 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: or was was it a function of this is the 669 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: time to do it? 670 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 2: No? It looking back, it's very much SNL prepared me 671 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: for it in the sense of like, well, we're going 672 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: live and there's nothing you can do about it. Like, 673 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: so that's kind of read like that was it eleven 674 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: thirty all the time with a kid eleven That's like 675 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: you take the kid that you give birth and then 676 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: you get downstairs and you go like, okay, we got 677 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: to put this thing in a car like that literally, 678 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: like the first time it hits you is the car 679 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: right home where you're like, so, no one, I'm just 680 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 2: no one's gonna help. I'm allowed to pick this thing 681 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: and like it's crazy. It's a crazy realization where you 682 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: go like, oh, but I think that's yeah. I was 683 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: about to do another SNL thing. I'll stop talking about 684 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: SNL and' only talk about You're welcome. 685 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: To talk about SNL as much as you want, and 686 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: I want listeners to know this is truly what happens, 687 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: and somehow all roads lead back to SNL even if 688 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: you weren't on SNL. I feel like somehow I'd be 689 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: talking to someone about SNL right now. 690 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: I said it in that documentary It Seth when I 691 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: got the show. The night I got the showeth Except 692 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 2: said congratulations, You'll never talk about anything else for the 693 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: rest of your life. 694 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: Seth is so brilliant and wonderful. The best I wasn't 695 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: obviously there when he was head writer. But I've heard 696 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: so many wonderful tales of his time as a leader 697 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: there and wish I could have been there. 698 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. I hope he gets it. I hope he inherits 699 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: the show. 700 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: Agree with you? Yeah, that would be really cool because 701 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: only good things. Okay, so you felt like it was 702 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: like being on SNL We're going to go Live. Did 703 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: anyone give you any advice that was particularly helpful to 704 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: you in parenting, whether it be in the baby phase 705 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: or once your kids can talk face Did anyone say 706 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: anything that you're like that was good advice? And I've 707 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: used it. 708 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: Juliel White, Steve Rkle, Okay. 709 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: Love Twiss, unexpected, Okay, keep going. 710 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 2: Uh it's not the best advice. It's just whenever someone 711 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 2: asked me that question, I love to see their reaction 712 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: when I say, Juliel White told me, Uh. 713 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: What did Jhaliel say? What did Rkle say? Uh? 714 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 2: He's a good dad. He he was talking to his 715 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 2: daughter and he was very specifically going no, no, no, no no. 716 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: Are you hurt or are you injured? 717 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: Explain this to me? 718 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: Do we are you hurt? Are you in pain? Or 719 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: are we making a trip to the hospital, like the 720 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 2: difference between hurt and injured, and explaining that quickly was 721 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 2: very I don't know why, it just it just hit me. 722 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: It just hit me like it was written in a movie. 723 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 2: I went like, I'm gonna remember that always. I don't 724 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 2: know why, but I'm going to and have you used it? 725 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: Oh a billion times? A billion times? And because he 726 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 2: said it and it just well it Also it's a 727 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: good parenting tool because it kind of snaps your kid 728 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: into reality because igo we were on us and know 729 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 2: we're very dramatic. So like my daughter, my daughter bangs 730 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 2: her knee a tiny pit and it's it's like it's 731 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 2: bloody murder. So you go, are you hurt or are 732 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: you injured? And they hear what they hear is I 733 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 2: don't want to put down the iPad and go to 734 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: the hospital. I'm fine. Sorry, Sorry, I was being a little. 735 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: Did I really love that? Because I'm gonna be honest. 736 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: When you first said that, Jaliel taught you that are 737 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: you hurt or are you injured? I was like, what's 738 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: the difference? And I'm like, now I really understand the 739 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: specificity of that. 740 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 2: That's why I bring it up because it is a 741 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 2: great thing. 742 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: Are you hurt or are you injured? In my ass 743 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: wants to go The answer is yes, but in like no, 744 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: you need to pick one and they mean different things, 745 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: and one means we're gonna go to the hospital. How 746 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: many trips to the hospital have you been saved with 747 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: that question? Do you believe a few? 748 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 2: But we had a real trip to the hospital that 749 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 2: changed everything. She my daughter broke her arm when she 750 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 2: was three, and that made everything very real and so like. 751 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 2: But also like, this is a terrible thing to say, 752 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: but it's like I never broke a bone when I 753 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 2: was a kid, and she broke her arm when she 754 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 2: was three, and she's fucking tougher for it. 755 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: Oh wow wow. It's kind of like I'm not condoning violence. 756 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: I feel like, if you've ever gotten beaten up, it 757 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: does something, like, you know, does something for you. 758 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 2: It's a shitty thing to say. Never would have said 759 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: this before I had two kids. Times you need to 760 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 2: get punched in the fucking face. 761 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: Okay, I believe it too. I agree with that. By 762 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: the way, I backpedal on what I said about I 763 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: don't condone violence. If I was running for office, that's 764 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: my I don't condone violence, but honestly, I do believe 765 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: sometimes you need to get. 766 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 2: That's how you learn in life, not to get punched 767 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 2: in the face, get punched in the face when you 768 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 2: do dumb shit. 769 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: I agree. If Bobby says it, then I feel like 770 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: I can be honest and say I agree. Also, I've 771 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: never broken a bone, and I'm going to knock on. 772 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't have woo to knock on, so I knock 773 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: on marble. This is marble, but marble columns. You're surrounded 774 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: by marble columns. Not this happens to be a marble table. 775 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: I promise it's all the marble ized. 776 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 2: She's shitting in a porcelain tumb full of raspberries. 777 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: I hope this is okay, Bobby, I hope this isn't 778 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: too much. 779 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 2: But she's in a business suit. But there's a lot 780 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 2: of raspberries exactly. 781 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: That's okay. And that's a character. I'm gonna put that 782 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: one in my back poppies. Maybe people will like that one. 783 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: But I gosh, I can only imagine having a child 784 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: break an arm. Did you and anyway feel guilt? Okay? 785 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: And then what happened? 786 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 2: Man, it's not guilt it's just this. I can see 787 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 2: the look in my mother's eye of like, oh my God, 788 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 2: all I want is to take everything bad that's happening 789 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 2: to you right away from you right now, and I can't. 790 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: Hm. Would you call that top three most overwhelming feelings 791 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: in this life? 792 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 2: Parents? Death, realizing that your kids are going to go 793 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 2: through it? Those two and when and when Jane Lynch 794 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 2: had one of my sketches cut on as a killer. 795 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 2: I still want a killer to this deck. 796 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: Okay, I am going to ask about that sketch, But 797 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: what you say, would you realize that your kids are 798 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: going to go through it, meaning like have a rough 799 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: time in life or they're going. 800 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 2: To experience I'm going to join it someday and just knowing, 801 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 2: just knowing what I know now, it's just like, oh man, 802 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 2: why did I have a kid? 803 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: Why did you do? Did? Why would you say you 804 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: did it? Actually? Bobby? Why would you well? 805 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: Because because of the ninety nine point billion percent other 806 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 2: time when it's absolutely wonderful and it's it, every fiber 807 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 2: of your being just goes there they are. 808 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: Did you suspect you would be a good dad? 809 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 2: I suspected I would be a fun dad. But not 810 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 2: a good dad, and I am a fun dad and 811 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 2: that's pretty good dad. 812 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: Are you a disciplinarian at all? 813 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 2: Oh no, let your wife be the bad guy. I 814 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 2: think it's more like right or wrong than discipline. But 815 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 2: I think I have a disciplined problem, like my my daughter. 816 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 2: It's like sneaking treats, you know what I mean, Like 817 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 2: you have an arfter trunklate, you know what I mean? 818 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: Like or like I collect I'm a collector, Like I've 819 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 2: never thrown anything away in my life, So I like 820 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 2: I have a problem of like, hey, we're only getting 821 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 2: ten things this time, honey, Like you know what I mean. 822 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 2: Like I grew up poor and because of SNL, like 823 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 2: you know, because of the my daughter has a very 824 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 2: different life than I did. And we're not billion billionaires. 825 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 2: But like you know, like it's like when I think 826 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 2: about like I was buying used g I Joe's and 827 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 2: now and my daughter likes something, I'm like, here's the 828 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 2: entire you need all ten? You can't have just two. Yeah, 829 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 2: that's my fault. And now I have to curb. And 830 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 2: I realize now especially with the second kid, like we 831 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 2: don't have to buy toys for the second kid, because 832 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 2: we bought all of the toys for the first first one. 833 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: What will you say if your second one says I 834 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: want my own stuff. I'm starting to realize these are 835 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 1: all hand me downs? Are you gonna go? 836 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna look her in the eyes like I'm not. 837 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 2: What I'm not gonna do is with my father could go, hey, 838 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 2: shut the fuck up. I don't know fucking figure it out, 839 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna go I 840 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 2: completely understand that what we should do is probably donate 841 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 2: these to some kids who need them, So that'll be fun. 842 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 2: Let's do that together instead of looking at an iPad. 843 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: Right, I love that. 844 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 2: And also, maybe we do some stuff around the house, 845 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 2: or we figure out some fun things to do, or 846 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 2: maybe you can make some art for an allowance, something creative. 847 00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 2: What do you want to do? 848 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and then. 849 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 2: We can work up and buy some new toys. But 850 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 2: when we do, we get one, and it's got to 851 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 2: be a special one. And I have to remind myself 852 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 2: that because that's not how I lived, clearly, not at all. 853 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 2: I see as you see my childhood behind me, my 854 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 2: SNL jersey. 855 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: Oh boy, do you worry about spoiling your kids because 856 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: your upbringing is different from theirs. 857 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,919 Speaker 2: Constantly. Yeah, I grew up in east Chester, New York. 858 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 2: They are growing up in California. My this this got 859 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 2: me the other day, and I'm not ashamed to say 860 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 2: it because I got to remember by myself. My daughter's 861 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 2: in first grade and said where friends said, I'm going 862 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 2: to the movies, and she said, is it the premiere? 863 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a little Hollywood girl. 864 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,280 Speaker 2: Well well no, not a Hollywood girl at all, but 865 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 2: but we took her. I'm in inside out and I'm 866 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 2: inside out too, and we took her to the movie 867 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: and it was the premiere and we never took her 868 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 2: were premiere before, so it was just but it was 869 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 2: just that, it was just like just that one sent 870 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 2: I went. 871 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: Like, well, is it the premiere? And are you dressing up? 872 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 2: And but do you know what I was picture? It's 873 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 2: on a three? 874 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: Where's where's the red carpet? I mean, I guess there 875 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: is red carpet at the movies, but there's no seamless Yeah, 876 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: a god, I get a seamless Bobby. You do sound 877 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 1: like a fun dad. I feel like if I could 878 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: pick a dad, i'd go, yeah, well, I have chosen 879 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: you as my dad for the day. I want to 880 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: ask really fast before I get into this dad vice 881 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,760 Speaker 1: advice piece where I ask you for a piece of advice, 882 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: the Jane Lynch sketch. What was it? And tell me 883 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: the story, because I have my own version of the 884 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: Jane Lynch sketch. It wasn't Jane Lynch, but please do tell. 885 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 2: It was a sketch that I had tried to get 886 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 2: on for a while to the point where like, no 887 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 2: one told me you weren't supposed to fucking pan stuff 888 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 2: in multiple times when I first got there, and I 889 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 2: kind of did. And and it was a sketch called 890 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 2: Party for Burrow. Please look it up on the database. Okay, okay, 891 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 2: with Jane Lynch. I was a nine hundred pound man 892 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,760 Speaker 2: who was having a party, a party at his house 893 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 2: because he had reached his goal weight of six hundred pounds. 894 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 2: And they built a big body on a chair and 895 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 2: I had my head poking through it. Yeah, And Jane 896 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 2: Lynch was my very normal wife. And there was a 897 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 2: lot of very normal suburban people at this party, and 898 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 2: they were all having a party, and Jane Lynch did 899 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 2: all the talking, was like, hey, everybody thanks for coming, Burrow, 900 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 2: and they were like she was like, and thank you 901 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 2: for coming, and she told the whole story like I 902 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 2: just told you, and she would go, is it that right, Burrow, 903 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 2: and I would go yeah, and I just never said 904 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 2: anything except eh, and I never moved and they all 905 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 2: went into a different room to play twister and you 906 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 2: could hear fun having and I just sat there. It 907 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 2: was dark and weird. Keenan looked like a grandpa. But 908 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 2: then it was like, are my wheat dealer's here? And 909 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 2: it was Keenan. He was like, good to be here, man, 910 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 2: And it was just very weird and stupid, and it 911 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 2: was never going to get on again. And it made 912 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 2: it to dress and it got in the show and 913 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 2: it was the sketch after dress, I mean after update, 914 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 2: my favorite spot, Like why. 915 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: Is that your favorite spot? 916 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 2: Because everyone's like, all right, last. 917 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: Year actually okay, great, okay, great. 918 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 2: It's like a fun spot that or the last sketch 919 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 2: of the night is my two favorite places to bit 920 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 2: oh wow, okay, okay, Flora uped it, but uh and 921 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 2: I walk in and it's fucking in and like I 922 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 2: looked at Seth and Seth was like, I can't believe 923 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 2: it either, buddy, And we're doing the read and we're 924 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 2: starting to get close to update and we're starting to 925 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 2: get notes and Jeff Blake just creeps up to the board, 926 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,479 Speaker 2: takes the card, pulls it down, puts another card up, 927 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 2: and it just says Susie ormand show oh, and it 928 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 2: was like a political sketch where Jane Lynch was playing 929 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 2: Susie ormand the kind of tank or didn't whatever, I 930 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 2: don't remember how it did to be on it. 931 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: Do you think you can be honest? You're like it 932 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: kind of tanked because you. 933 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 2: Don't know what's tanked because I will I should see 934 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 2: it again and go, oh no, it didn't actually. 935 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 1: Okay that feeling when you're like mine is better, Mine 936 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 1: is better than the one you chose. 937 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're trying to tell me that party for Burrow 938 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 2: like you know, like I was, and it got taken 939 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 2: off in the middle of that like it was in 940 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 2: and that had never happened in my nine years there 941 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 2: where they had made a decision and then renegged and 942 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 2: she just kind of leaned over and whispered, sorry, Susie 943 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 2: Orman's a friend of mine. Ah, And I was like devastated, 944 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,760 Speaker 2: and it never got on and thats it. 945 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,240 Speaker 1: Just went away Man party for Burrow. 946 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep it. Seth brought it up once on 947 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 2: to do it on Second Chance Theater and I was 948 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 2: just like, not even there. It doesn't even deserve to 949 00:45:59,400 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 2: be there. 950 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 1: That would have been fun. I now want. I'm gonna 951 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: go look it up on the database. And also shout 952 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: out to Jeff Blake. You're remembering it was him who 953 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 1: took the car. We love Jeff Blake and the best 954 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: guy ever at snl Okay. I'm gonna end this by 955 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: asking you a piece of da advice, which is what 956 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: I do on every episode. I have a dad for 957 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 1: the day. You have been a fantastic dad. My piece 958 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 1: of advice, And this is why I was saying it 959 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: kind of relates to death. How do I articulate this, Dad? 960 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm nervous because I'm getting in real time with you. 961 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: But in terms of savings, how much savings is the 962 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: right amount of savings? Would you say, Dad? Because I 963 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: oftentime with savings, go, what am I saving this for? Yes, 964 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: an emergency maybe if I have a gold in mind. 965 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: But I also could die tonight. 966 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 2: Save very different, very different. I would even say, from 967 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 2: like a couple of weeks ago. I've changed this before 968 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 2: the fires even okay, okay, which is save everything and 969 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 2: put it in a bank. You don't need anything I 970 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 2: have of this. I have a collecting I like to 971 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 2: collect things. I have a lot of stuff. I stole 972 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,240 Speaker 2: so many props from Snel it's stupid. 973 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: Some un jail this man. 974 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:18,320 Speaker 2: Oh yes, easily. The fortieth anniversary was me walking around 975 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 2: stealing things whenever Dana Carvey would put them down. 976 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take that, thank you, and this as well. 977 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,280 Speaker 2: I have his drumsticks from Wade and Garth. I literally 978 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 2: wear it within reach. Yeah, save everything, None of this 979 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 2: shit matters. I collected my whole life, and now I'm 980 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 2: in the process of like selling everything and just going 981 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 2: like I enjoyed it. I enjoy I loved it, but 982 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 2: like it's all like now it's just I go like, 983 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,959 Speaker 2: I don't do anything unless it's for those kids, because 984 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 2: like I just everything. I'm gonna get dark for. 985 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: A second, please please be real. 986 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 2: Losing both of your parents within six months of each other, 987 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 2: after leaving Saturday Night Live for nine years, getting married, 988 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 2: and having a baby, it was a lot of stuff. Yeah, yeah, 989 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 2: in one year, and just even the physical task of 990 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 2: which I did solely alone, of cleaning out my childhood 991 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 2: apartment of everything that my mother and father owned, and 992 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 2: going like, this is all garbage. Yesterday it was their stuff. 993 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,800 Speaker 2: Today it's garbage. 994 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: So one man's trash is not necessarily another man's treasure. 995 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 2: One man's man's tresch is also another man's trash. 996 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 997 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 2: Sometimes, so like it's like that, It's like it's it's 998 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 2: also like I want to lessen the amount of work 999 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 2: they have to like when I die, I want them 1000 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 2: to go like, oh, he set it up for us. 1001 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 2: It was nice, like because my parents did not do that. 1002 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 2: I paid a lot of stuff off right, you know, 1003 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 2: it was it was it was you matter. 1004 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,359 Speaker 1: The things you do matter, right, and that is a 1005 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: big lesson. Do you have a will? 1006 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 2: A couple? 1007 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: Okay, all right? Just one? Just okay, I don't know 1008 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: what the I said. You could have told me you 1009 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: had a hundred, and I would be like, I don't 1010 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: know anything about them, and I should maybe get one. 1011 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 2: Or I should and I don't know one for each identity. 1012 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I'm talking to Bobby tomorrow with Bibby. Yeah, 1013 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: even in terms of stuff, like I'm not We get 1014 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: so many things gifted to us, which is really cool 1015 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 1: and people want us to you know, that press the 1016 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: pr thing of it all, and I try to give 1017 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: it away as much as I can because I'm like, 1018 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: I don't need all of this stuff, and so I 1019 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: do a pretty good job with like actual stuff and 1020 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 1: not hoarding. But then I'll do a good job of 1021 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: like purging. But then I'll look up and I go, oh, 1022 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: my gosh, I have a lot of stuff again, somehow, 1023 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 1: despite having purged a year and a half ago and 1024 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 1: giving things away that I'm gifted, and you just look 1025 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: around and you go, this is so much stuff. 1026 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 2: Asnel enhanced the collecting too, because I was as somebody 1027 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 2: who likes to collect things. And then you would wear 1028 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 2: a T shirt during good nights and someone would go, hey, 1029 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 2: you like this, and then they would send you cases 1030 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 2: of this stuff, and then you're like, oh no, and 1031 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 2: like and then your house is filled with stuff and 1032 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:15,919 Speaker 2: you're like. 1033 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right. You go, I'm so glad you 1034 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 1: clocked that I wore the thing and that I like 1035 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,399 Speaker 1: the thing, but I don't know that I need more 1036 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 1: of the thing. It's just me. 1037 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 2: I want it. I don't need it, but I want it. 1038 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, But even in terms of like financial savings, 1039 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of the root of my question. My money 1040 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: comes to mind. I'm like, I should just have a 1041 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:38,840 Speaker 1: thick ass savings account. 1042 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 2: You think that, And this is just the truth. I 1043 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 2: worked at a pizzeria Uno on Central Avenue and Yonkers. 1044 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 2: I was a bartender for many, many years, and I 1045 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 2: really just I was good at it, and I really 1046 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 2: just try to assume no matter how many times I'm 1047 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 2: on a mechanical bull with Tom Hanks, I could be 1048 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 2: bartending a pizzeria Uno again tomorrow so easily and be 1049 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:05,839 Speaker 2: fine with it. 1050 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 1: Okay, that's where I need to be. Christ Okay, I 1051 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: like this mentality less is more like some sense. 1052 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's Uh. Life is really fun and confusing 1053 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 2: and complicated, and you can make it that way or 1054 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 2: you can make and yeah, or you what's my other option? 1055 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 2: Am I heard around I injured? What's what were you 1056 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 2: going to say? My other option is oh, are you hurting? Oh? 1057 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,839 Speaker 2: My other no, my other advice that I heard as 1058 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:30,280 Speaker 2: a parent. 1059 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: You mean no, no, no, no no, but you were 1060 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: you were saying life is really fun, and you could 1061 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 1: it could be complicated, or you can make it that 1062 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,320 Speaker 1: way or or. 1063 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 2: I think no, no, no, I think right now, it's 1064 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 2: that it's either you either are a victim or you're 1065 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,760 Speaker 2: or you're being the victim. And knowing when you're being 1066 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 2: the victim because it's easier is a huge thing that 1067 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 2: I didn't really fully understand. And we'll look back on 1068 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 2: this podcast in a month and go, oh god, I 1069 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 2: thought I knew what I was talking about. It's just 1070 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 2: that it's that it's you. Never there's always a bigger fish. Yeah, always, always, always, always. 1071 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: Can I just ask one more thing, which is a 1072 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 1: bit unconventional because at this point you've given me all 1073 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: the advice. You've been a fantastic dad. Thank you for 1074 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 1: telling me your tales of fatherhood. When you described though 1075 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: you're leaving SNL after nine years and losing both parents 1076 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 1: within six months of each other, getting married, having a kid, 1077 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 1: and that short amount of time, Bobby, I felt attention 1078 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 1: on my end and I didn't live it, but I 1079 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: know the SNL of it and how challenging that decision 1080 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: may be, and how much you put your heart and 1081 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: energy into that place, and how emotionally taxing SNL can be, 1082 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 1: which a lot of people wouldn't quite understand unless they 1083 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 1: worked there and understand how that machine works and how 1084 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 1: what keeps that place together. Do you feel like you've 1085 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,399 Speaker 1: come down from all of that in some sense, all 1086 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: of that that that year you just described, have you 1087 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:53,919 Speaker 1: properly exhaled yet? 1088 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 2: Well? I could say this honestly now in the moment 1089 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 2: because I'm a little bit more present than usual, which 1090 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 2: is it was starting to happen, it was starting, I 1091 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,919 Speaker 2: was starting to calm down, and then the fiftieth it's 1092 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,760 Speaker 2: been like the fiftieth has like kicked up so much stuff. 1093 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 2: When the fiftieth is over, that's I feel like the 1094 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 2: real healing begins. Then. Well, also, I'm just excited. I'm 1095 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 2: I'm I haven't heard anything about I just can't wait 1096 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,720 Speaker 2: to go watch and be proud and then go home. 1097 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that'll be fun and I think I think 1098 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,319 Speaker 1: it'll be very special. Pre fortieth post fortieth This is 1099 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 1: my second post Dad Vice question. Pre fortieth post fortieth. 1100 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,839 Speaker 1: The difference for you energetically there you alluded to that it. 1101 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,720 Speaker 2: Felt like ramping up to something, and then it felt 1102 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 2: very much like Okay, Now we just got to make 1103 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 2: it to the fiftieth. 1104 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, okay, like. 1105 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 2: It just the the wave, Well, it was harder to 1106 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 2: come keep coming in like season forty one. 1107 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: Yes, got it, Okay, got it. Yeah, thats fifty one 1108 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 1: is gonna be harder. Well, some might say different and different. 1109 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 2: It'll be completely different because you're it's a different show 1110 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 2: because the fifty it's over. 1111 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, some might say the fiftieth is hard. Oh yeah, 1112 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, I can't. I don't know who would say that. Okay, Well, 1113 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 1: thank you so much, Bobby. You have been an incredible 1114 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 1: dad for the day. Thank you for letting me be 1115 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: your daughter. Please you have a thought. 1116 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 2: I do the last thing just because it's literally the 1117 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 2: best dad advice I've ever gotten, and it works. The 1118 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 2: only thing you need when you're a father and you're traveling, 1119 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 2: The only thing you need to bring is Painter's tape. 1120 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 1: Blue. 1121 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 2: They know that blue Painter's tape. Yes, you can make 1122 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 2: baby gates out of it that are almost indestructible and 1123 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,720 Speaker 2: they don't hurt kids. You can make toys out of tape. 1124 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 2: You could do anything with Painter's tape. Okay, you can 1125 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,360 Speaker 2: make you can tape off sections of hotel rooms anything. 1126 00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 2: It's okay, that's baby Gates being crucial. Wh gave you 1127 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:00,760 Speaker 2: that advice? 1128 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:01,240 Speaker 1: Do you remember? 1129 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 2: I don't remember, but I should thank them because it's 1130 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:04,760 Speaker 2: the truth. 1131 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good piece of advice. That's very solid. I'll 1132 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,879 Speaker 1: keep that one. Dear to me. I'll be a mom someday, God, 1133 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 1: and I will have my painters tape on me. Thank 1134 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 1: you so much. Do I want to plug anything, dad, Bobby? Bobby? 1135 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,879 Speaker 2: Sure check. I got a children's book called not All 1136 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:25,360 Speaker 2: Sheep Are Boring? You can get on the computer love Uh. 1137 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 2: You can check out Loafy and Lightning Wolves or animated series. 1138 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm on YouTube. That's it for now. Oh 1139 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 2: and I got a podcast called whom Me with the 1140 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 2: Batman on Comedy Bang Bang CBB Presents, where I play 1141 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 2: Batman and I interviewed. 1142 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Shout out to Scott Ackerman. 1143 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:50,320 Speaker 1: Another another one has been my dad. Yeah, my god, Bobby, 1144 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,359 Speaker 1: thank you You've been wonderful. Thank you so much for 1145 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 1: doing this. 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