1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,279 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio Happy Friday. I'm Tracy V. Wilson 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: and I'm Holly Fry. This week we talked about Eban 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 1: I'll Hate Them. Yes, has been on my list for 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: just so long. I think with the notations of something 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: like Eben I'll Hate Them, Father of the scientific method 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: question mark. Um I did not know anything about this 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: UNESCO International Year of Light that happened at this point 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: five years ago. UM. I did watch the short film 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: that is available online. I have two things to share 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 1: about it. One I shared with you, Holly, while I 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: was working on it, which is in the animated sequences 13 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: that show you know, the story of Ebanel Hatham's discoveries. 14 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: He's wearing this bracer that has an abacus on the 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: ends side of it, and wow, did I get distracted 16 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: by figuring out whether this was a real garment slash 17 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: tool that people wore right or whether it was something 18 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: that was the if so incredibly delightful invention of like 19 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: the person that was uh that was doing this, And 20 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: in my limited time that I had available, I did 21 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: not find the answer to that. But it's I think 22 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: in that little it's about us fifteen minute I think film, 23 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: and it's in that film in two different places. I 24 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: was just like, what is this? It's so cool. I 25 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: don't even know how to use an abacus. See. I 26 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: watched it and went man, Omar Sharif was so handsome 27 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: right up to the end. Did you so? My second 28 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: point is did you watch all the way through? Or 29 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: did you just watch that bit of it? Um? I 30 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: watched all of it, but I will say I watched 31 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: all of it while also monitoring a cat that had 32 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: recently come home from a vet visit and just needed 33 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on them. So I would 34 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: not ever claim that I had a whole encyclopedic memory 35 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: of what happened in that that entire short. Um. So 36 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: we said in the episode, this was Omar Shreef's last 37 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: film role, and um in the credits are clips of 38 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: him talking about doing it that I didn't about, which 39 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: is probably good because I would have fallen apart. Yeah. Basically, 40 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,839 Speaker 1: he talks about how he had not been active as 41 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: an actor for a few years because in the process 42 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: of aging, he didn't feel like he could do as 43 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: good of a job at it anymore. But he felt 44 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: like this role was really important, um, and I was 45 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: like just sobbing task. I got very emotional about it. 46 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't feel like a particular It's 47 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: it's not like I walked into that that short film 48 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: being like I am Omar Sharif's biggest fan or whatever, 49 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: like I did not have a particular ootional residence going 50 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: into it. But by the end of hearing him talk 51 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: about it, I was like falling apart. So anyway, Uh, 52 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: that whole thing again was called the International Year of 53 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: Light and um that so that that film is still there, 54 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: it is, Um, it's pretty fun And a lot of 55 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: things about this episode were really fun. The descriptions of 56 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: how people thought vision worked, those are really fun. The 57 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: story of like the accidental formation of a of a 58 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: camera obscure as through the window shade may or may 59 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: not be you know, apocryphal. So many things that are 60 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: like the really memorable story about the how the scientific 61 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: discovery came to be, Like a lot of them turned 62 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: out to be apocryphal. And it's been so long ago 63 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: at this point that who knows. But I still love 64 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: the idea of walking into like the darkened room in 65 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: your house and kind of being like, what's that spot 66 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: of light on the wall? Why can't I see outside 67 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: in it? Upside down? Yeah? I would not be I 68 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: don't think that observant. I'm embarrassed to admit. Yeah. Yeah. 69 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: So anyway, glad I was able to find Let me 70 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: have this episode up to the top of the list. 71 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: Me too. This week we talked about waffles. We did. 72 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm still hungry. I mean I say still we just 73 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: finished talking about it a minute ago. Uh yeah, I 74 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: will say this. I mentioned it on Twitter. Doing research 75 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: on food history makes you want to eat a lot 76 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: of that food. I don't know how many waffles I 77 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: made while researching this. I was reading about it over 78 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: the course of like a week, and I kept going 79 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: maybe waffles for dinner again. Um. One thing I did 80 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: not get into in this episode, in case anyone is 81 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: wondering why didn't touch on it, is waffle cones. Oh yeah, yeah, 82 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: there's a reason. Is it because it's so hotly debated? 83 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: Who gets the credit for developing waffle cones? Yes? But 84 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: like the stories are all over the map, Like there's 85 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: a UM one particular expo is at nineteen o four. 86 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: I should have made a note, um, that is often 87 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: credited with where the waffle cone was invented in is 88 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: nineteen o four at the World's Fair. The good story, 89 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: the fun story, and there there are a lot of 90 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: iterations of this story that play out in waffle cone development. 91 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: Is that, um, it was made in an instance when 92 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: there were no cups available for an ice cream vendor 93 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: and he ran next door to a place that sounds 94 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: like they were making something more like delab and rolled 95 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: it into a conical shape and put the ice cream in. 96 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: That is a great story, but there are pictures of 97 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: children holding like actually fully formed cones at that the 98 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: World's Fair, so it doesn't really add up. I feel 99 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: like we might have talked about this in our prior 100 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: episode on the history of ice cream. Maybe we may have. 101 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: Um it really gets um a lot of discuss and 102 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: some very strong opinions, and also it's really impossible to untangle. 103 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: So I just didn't want to introduce it because it 104 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: becomes a whole thing, where like if you explain every 105 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: possible story and its viability or not on the timeline, 106 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: that becomes a whole other episode of its own. Anyway, 107 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: waffle cones, I will see this here is the gift 108 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: I give the world. I'm excited. This is not a waffle, 109 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: a savory waffle made with batter, but it is a 110 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: savory waffle which I make and I love and it's 111 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: one of my favorite foods on the planet. After holiday 112 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: meals like Thanksgiving or Christmas. If you do like a 113 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: turkey spread with stuffing or dressing, whatever you call it, 114 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: take some of that leftover dressing, mix it with a 115 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: raw egg, put it in a waffle iron. You get 116 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: dressing bread. I think you told me this one time, 117 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: and I was like, you're a genius. It's I'm not 118 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: a genius, but I do like to mess around with 119 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: food in the kitchen, and this is one of my 120 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: greatest experiments because then you can like put cheese on it. 121 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: I like to put like, um, mashed avocado, smear it 122 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: on there, and then put like parmesan or something on it. 123 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: I also will sometimes layer with presciutto and cream cheese. 124 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: It's super decative, but it's really delicious and I just 125 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: highly recommend that all sounds really good. Um, everybody experiment 126 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: with things in waffle irons. You can also use a 127 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: waffle iron to cook eggs, like to make scrambled eggs. 128 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: If you want to make a fun shape to make 129 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: a sandwich works like a charm I love it. Um. Yeah, 130 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of messing around with with waffle. 131 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: I because I'm a big fan of waffles. I um, 132 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: I like a very buttery laden waffle. That's the best. 133 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: It's the best. I'll do like a chicken on the 134 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: King and put it on a a savory waffle that 135 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: doesn't have sugar added. Delicious, It's delicious. Yeah yeah, yeah, 136 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: all right, now that we all want to have waffles, uh, 137 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: we'll bid you at you on that subject. We hope 138 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: this Friday episode finds everyone well and that you have 139 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: a good weekend. Uh, and we will see you again 140 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: for Classics tomorrow. If you would like to subscribe to 141 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: the show, you can do that on the I heart 142 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: Radio app, at Apple Podcasts, or wherever it is you listen. 143 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: Stuff you missed in History Class is a production of 144 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: I heart Radio. 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