Speaker 1: What are your plans for the rest of the year,
Speaker 1: eat Brandon desserts and just get on fat and sassy.
Speaker 2: Good morning, sweerl and welcome to the Nodongs podcast on
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Speaker 3: I'm j E.
Speaker 2: Skeets alongside me as always. That's task melus.
Speaker 4: Hey fellas well, that's up tasty.
Speaker 2: You got our top shot hot boy Trey Kirby. Hey, hey,
Speaker 2: the international man of mystery taking it to the Max
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Speaker 2: Later today right here on this very feed. On this
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Speaker 2: is our F one podcast with TK and Grating Gordian.
Speaker 2: That one goes live at two pm Eastern if you
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Speaker 2: to survive on Netflix. You guys do a great job.
Speaker 2: I gotta say that, especially like greating. Gordian is so good,
Speaker 2: Like you got questions for him and he can like
Speaker 2: really tell you because he's been a longtime fan of
Speaker 2: Like what the hell's going on?
Speaker 3: Right, TK, exactly right. We usually say this about Survivor.
Speaker 3: Now it's a great time to get in for half one.
Speaker 3: We got only one race you gotta care about. And
Speaker 3: like you're saying, skeets, Graydon actually knows what he's talking about.
Speaker 2: So anytime I have a dumb question.
Speaker 3: When you were on, you were asking him dumb questions,
Speaker 3: He's got a smart answer for it.
Speaker 2: It's perfect. He's really really good at this stuff. All right,
Speaker 2: we got a fun podcast here today. We're talking more
Speaker 2: trades later on in the show. I'm gonna hit you
Speaker 2: guys with some traine for the Blazers to make get
Speaker 2: your opinions on them, you know, moving everybody basically accept
Speaker 2: Dabian Lillard if that's the first step that the Blazers
Speaker 2: ultimately try and decide to do. So, I'll throw some
Speaker 2: at you at you guys, and you guys, can you know,
Speaker 2: thumbs up or thumbs down them, or tweak them a bit,
Speaker 2: whatever you want. But let's start with the games, because
Speaker 2: there was a lot of games on last night. We'll
Speaker 2: start with Demart de Rosen having to enter COVID nineteen
Speaker 2: health and safety protocols soon before the Bulls game. But
Speaker 2: that's okay. In the end, they go on to get
Speaker 2: the victory against the Nuggets, who are very shorthanded as well.
Speaker 2: Zach Lavie scored thirty two TK to get the Chicago win.
Speaker 2: But unfortunate news with DeRozan, of course, right on the
Speaker 2: heels of being named Eastern Conference Player of the Week. Yeah,
Speaker 2: no doubt.
Speaker 3: It's been a blessed start for the Bulls, despite the
Speaker 3: fact they've had some injuries, they've had some COVID protocol concerns,
Speaker 3: like you're saying, but they're seventeen and eight right now,
Speaker 3: second in the East, undefeated against the first place team.
Speaker 3: They had that great West Coast road trip where they
Speaker 3: swept both games in LA and then they swept a
Speaker 3: couple more games in New York City as well. But
Speaker 3: I've actually found a couple of things really challenging with
Speaker 3: this team. Number One, I like to wear Bulls gear
Speaker 3: on the show the day after a big win, and
Speaker 3: it's getting hard to keep up with this laundry. As
Speaker 3: the Bulls stack win after win after win after win,
Speaker 3: and number two, it can be hard to find the
Speaker 3: words to express just how back the Chicago Bulls are, because,
Speaker 3: like you're saying, Skeets, DeRozan was a scratch about two
Speaker 3: hours before tip off, right after he won Eastern Conference
Speaker 3: Player of the Week. Some of y'all might have started thinking,
Speaker 3: I don't know, the Bulls might not be back. As
Speaker 3: it turns out even more back than you could imagine.
Speaker 3: No DeRozan, no Kobe White, no Javonte Green. They're all
Speaker 3: in COVID protocols right now. Even Stacy King missed the
Speaker 3: game last night. We had silly Billy Winnington on the call.
Speaker 3: Alex Caruso a late scratch as well with a hamstring injury.
Speaker 3: Patrick Williams he's out right now, likely for the season
Speaker 3: due to risk surgery. So five of the bulls top
Speaker 3: ten guys are out, and it did not matter because
Speaker 3: the Nuggets are equally shorthanded and the Bulls have not one,
Speaker 3: but two all NBA MVP candidates. Last night, it was
Speaker 3: Zach Levine thirty two points, a season high, eight assists,
Speaker 3: and honestly dominated in the third quarter. Had twelve points,
Speaker 3: had three assists. The step backs were looking nice, The
Speaker 3: twisty layups were looking Jordan esk. He played the entire
Speaker 3: quarter and keyed every single Bulls run. They had a
Speaker 3: seven oh run, they had an eight to one run,
Speaker 3: they had a seven to zero run. He went into
Speaker 3: takeover mode on a night when the Bulls really really
Speaker 3: needed it. Levine was the star last night, but this
Speaker 3: was a team win. Twenty points, ten rebounds, four threes
Speaker 3: and four blocks for Lonzo Ball last night. He put
Speaker 3: an exclamation point on the w catching a huge oop
Speaker 3: midway through the fourth quarter. In this one, Sweet Vuccie Baby,
Speaker 3: he couldn't shoot eight for twenty four, still put up
Speaker 3: twenty and ten hit a big three in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 3: because that's what he does. Most importantly, helped hold Nikola
Speaker 3: Jokic to a quiet triple double seventeen points on seventeen shot,
Speaker 3: and honestly, the Bulls looked better defensively when it was
Speaker 3: just Vucevic straight up against Jokic. Anytime the Bulls were
Speaker 3: doubling it was an easy three pointer for the Nuggets.
Speaker 3: So in the second half, Vuch was just competing defensively,
Speaker 3: made it tough on Jokic and I got to give
Speaker 3: a huge shout out to Io de Summu his first
Speaker 3: career start got introduced as from Chicago.
Speaker 2: Played a career high forty.
Speaker 3: One minutes and fifty something seconds, finished with eleven points,
Speaker 3: six boards, eight assists. Derek Jones Junior was good, Troy
Speaker 3: Brown Junior was good. Tony Bradley he was back in
Speaker 3: the rotation.
Speaker 4: He was good.
Speaker 3: Even Matt Thomas hit a three last night. The Bulls
Speaker 3: could have turtled this one away instead. One of the
Speaker 3: best wins of the season. Incredible stuff. I saw people
Speaker 3: saying they were the best team in the Eastern Conference
Speaker 3: last night. Kind of tough to say considering we're going
Speaker 3: to be talking about the Bucks next. Nonetheless, awesome win
Speaker 3: for Dupples last night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, U tast We didn't have you on yesterday's show,
Speaker 2: And one of the questions we were asking was are
Speaker 2: the Bulls like squarely in the upper echelon that upper
Speaker 2: tier of Eastern Conference teams? Like do you include the
Speaker 2: Chicago Bowls at this point of the season here, especially
Speaker 2: with these victories missing guys like Trey took us through
Speaker 2: with Derosen. They're the star player probably from this season.
Speaker 2: Are they right there with the box and nets? Are
Speaker 2: they still a tier below them in your mind? Or
Speaker 2: is there anybody else in that mix? What do you
Speaker 2: think that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're definitely part of that tier. If they've got
Speaker 4: Trey Kirby wearing undershirts just to preserve his dirt bag move.
Speaker 4: He's got an undershirt on self proclaimed dirt bag move
Speaker 4: with the sweater on top. You've got to wear undershirts.
Speaker 4: Now that's a double bulls. You got a bowls on top.
Speaker 5: And a b I like that.
Speaker 2: You're calling it a dirt bag move. I thought it
Speaker 2: was a scumbag.
Speaker 4: I love it. Same same deal, Chuck Swarsky. They're dancing
Speaker 4: here on YouTube if you missed it. It was cool
Speaker 4: to see Chuck Swirsky and Bill Wennington on front row there.
Speaker 4: I was watching the in game arena stuff going on.
Speaker 4: It was good to see a billy chopping on some
Speaker 4: gum there. Courts Eye and Chucky Swerski there, our good
Speaker 4: old friend from Toronto. Yeah, I think they definitely belong there.
Speaker 4: It stinks for Demarto Rosen having to go into save
Speaker 4: health and safety protocols as Bill Billy Donovan said that
Speaker 4: he has been extremely careful. And I'm not sure how
Speaker 4: Billy Donovan knows that they hanging out all the time,
Speaker 4: but I guess he knows that he's been extremely careful.
Speaker 4: He's had to enter health and save the protocols. It
Speaker 4: sinks because Damars had such a great start to the season,
Speaker 4: but it's cool to see last year Zach Lavine again
Speaker 4: just having to do everything because it's cool to see
Speaker 4: how he's evolved. And I like to focus on Zach Levine.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I can only focus on one player at a time.
Speaker 4: It's hard for me to focus on multiple players. But
Speaker 4: it's cool to see Zach Lavine and what he's turned
Speaker 4: into over the last several years because it was our
Speaker 4: crazy athletic guy, you know, for the first few years,
Speaker 4: and he's just so fun to watch because he's so
Speaker 4: unique athletically, and I think myself, others included, wondered is
Speaker 4: he just going to be a crazy athlete and not
Speaker 4: really turn into a basketball player? But now he's got
Speaker 4: every move in the bag. There was the move he
Speaker 4: went right at Nikola Yokich had a little sort of
Speaker 4: a push dribble, pushed it a head towards the baseline
Speaker 4: and then just rose up and hit over him. At
Speaker 4: any point you can think, oh, maybe Zachlavine's kind of
Speaker 4: lost in his move, and then he'll just rise up
Speaker 4: because he can jump over anybody. So it's kind of
Speaker 4: cool to see last year Zachlavine, like Trey described there
Speaker 4: where he had to kind of do everything. But Trey
Speaker 4: also described going through the roster iowed from Chicago and
Speaker 4: Matt Thomas the day he had his little avatar on
Speaker 4: Basketball reference dot com. Was that a coincidence that he
Speaker 4: came out and played yesterday. I almost didn't recognize him
Speaker 4: on Basketball Reference, but he came out and played yesterday.
Speaker 4: Everybody on that roster, Troy Brown all the way down.
Speaker 4: It's a deep team. And as zach Lavine said after
Speaker 4: the game, it's worn on him that they've been losing
Speaker 4: year after year after year. But a different mindset in Chicago,
Speaker 4: and yeah, they've got to be part of the top tier.
Speaker 4: I don't see how you don't include them.
Speaker 2: Back to Trey wearing a Bulls T shirt under his
Speaker 2: bull sweatshirt while he wears a Bulls hat. Efac here
Speaker 2: in the stream. Team says it's like when you cut
Speaker 2: up in a belt pepper and there is a little
Speaker 2: pepper inside of it. That's like TK with his balls.
Speaker 2: I always do love when you find a secret pepper
Speaker 2: inside of pepper. And that's Tray right now. I'll lead
Speaker 2: you have anything to add about the balls are back
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. And why don't you ever see
Speaker 2: Homer on TK? He would never fucking start, But I.
Speaker 1: Was talking about I don't you know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to Sully the mood.
Speaker 6: Tray is so happy right now.
Speaker 1: It has been a while since the bulls have been back,
Speaker 1: and it's fun to see. It's like also one of
Speaker 1: those Russian dolls, you know, where you'd take it off
Speaker 1: and there's just another one, a little misskin and I
Speaker 1: think it's called something like that. Anyway, I really just
Speaker 1: want to focus on two players. Io to soon move
Speaker 1: I thought was just incredible. Trait obviously touched on him
Speaker 1: there he got the start, and it really says a
Speaker 1: lot about a rookie who can come into the starting
Speaker 1: lineup and play the.
Speaker 6: Way that he did.
Speaker 1: Because this guy I believe earned his spot there primarily
Speaker 1: because he's worked hard on the defensive end all season long.
Speaker 1: He's all always hustling, he's always trying to get in
Speaker 1: the way and affect the game on that end because
Speaker 1: he knows, especially not only just as a rookie, but
Speaker 1: on a team with so many other guys who can
Speaker 1: score and shoot and have plays run for them, he's
Speaker 1: not going to get plays run for him offensively. He
Speaker 1: has to find ways to be effective, whether that's you know,
Speaker 1: getting little tip ins or put backs or broken plays
Speaker 1: that come his way. But also as well, last night
Speaker 1: you saw just past the guys who are the scorers
Speaker 1: and the shooters on your team, because that's a way
Speaker 1: to get the respect from the veterans and the coach
Speaker 1: to be like, you know, don't go out there and
Speaker 1: try to replace Demarta Rosen's shots in minutes, because that's
Speaker 1: not what he's being asked to do. But instead go
Speaker 1: out there and do what you've done by being effective defensively,
Speaker 1: starting that break in transition and then just pass the
Speaker 1: ball to those other guys because that's what you're supposed
Speaker 1: to do. He'll return to the bench obviously when DeRozan
Speaker 1: comes back, but he really has shown that he's a
Speaker 1: mature rookie, and he's talked a good game about saying,
Speaker 1: you know, I've got to be ready to wait for
Speaker 1: my opportunity and do the right thing. But then he
Speaker 1: actually went out and proved it. So I think that's
Speaker 1: really really good. So for a young guy, second round pick,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of rookies, you know, they're impatient
Speaker 1: and they're not quite ready for the NBA, and they're
Speaker 1: not quite ready for that moment. He proved he was
Speaker 1: last night. And then the other point is Lonzo Ball.
Speaker 1: I'm going to play psychologists here, which is always fun.
Speaker 1: I'm going back to that NETS game where DeRozan found
Speaker 1: him for that three pointer because he hadn't been shooting
Speaker 1: the ball all that well, and I do believe those
Speaker 1: things can have a knock on effect in the next game.
Speaker 1: I thought Lonzo Ball was really confident last night shooting
Speaker 1: the ball, and I think that that comes from the
Speaker 1: fact that his teammates, you know, trusted him even though
Speaker 1: he was having a bit of an off couple of
Speaker 1: games there when he needed to step up again, there's
Speaker 1: more shots there. Last night without DeRozan, he stepped up
Speaker 1: and he made them, and he also made the defensive
Speaker 1: plays and he was rebounding the ball. So all those things,
Speaker 1: to me, really tell you that the Chicago Bulls team
Speaker 1: is on the same page right now.
Speaker 6: DeRozan goes out and it's not like, well, what are
Speaker 6: we going to do here?
Speaker 1: Everyone else just sort of lifts, does a little bit
Speaker 1: more chips in here and there, and they also understand
Speaker 1: just what is expected on them. There's no excuses. It's
Speaker 1: not like, well, DeRozan not there, we can afford to
Speaker 1: lose this game. That go out there and play just
Speaker 1: the same way. So really, really good signs to me
Speaker 1: that this locker room is on the same pageant and
Speaker 1: really in sync with each other.
Speaker 2: There's been so much talk too about like Caruso defensive
Speaker 2: player of the Year. He's got to be in the
Speaker 2: mix or at least on an all defensive team or
Speaker 2: you know which. I think he will be maybe in
Speaker 2: the end, But I think the same should be said
Speaker 2: about Lonzo Ball. This guy is unbelievably he is elite
Speaker 2: on that end. I think he's flirting with like he's
Speaker 2: getting close to like two steels per game, and he
Speaker 2: chips in a block a game at his position, which
Speaker 2: is sort of rare, so you know, I'd like to
Speaker 2: see his name sort of be included there at least
Speaker 2: and talks about oh being one of the and I
Speaker 2: know he has been before, but it's just been all Caruso, Caruso, Caruso.
Speaker 2: He's just as good, right, Trey, Like what he can
Speaker 2: do on the defense beend especially.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was actually kind of funny to see
Speaker 3: last night because Lonzo had a couple of blocks, like
Speaker 3: in the first couple of minutes of this game, and
Speaker 3: the way he plays generally, he's like running around like crazy,
Speaker 3: gambling for steels, gambling for help, trying to get deflections.
Speaker 3: And usually that's at its best when Caruso is also
Speaker 3: on the moor, because Cruso can really make up for
Speaker 3: a lot of Lonzo's gambles, like cover for his spot
Speaker 3: where he's left it behind.
Speaker 2: That was not.
Speaker 3: Happening with the Bulls in the first half. Lonzo was
Speaker 3: running around a little bit too crazy. It led to
Speaker 3: a lot of open threes for the Nuggets, so the
Speaker 3: Bulls decided to play it a little bit more straight
Speaker 3: in the second half, and Lonzo's just he's just reeks havoc.
Speaker 3: And then he's he's so good at then turning defense
Speaker 3: to offense that it rubs off on the other Bulls
Speaker 3: as well. So they're not always a great half court team,
Speaker 3: but they're a great full court team, and a lot
Speaker 3: of that is Lonzo doing defense to offense. Another cool
Speaker 3: thing last night, the Bulls had a six point possession.
Speaker 3: They hit a three and got called for a flagrant
Speaker 3: foul on the old Zaza Patula land under so went
Speaker 3: to the free throw line.
Speaker 2: Lonzo had two free throws to make one very weird.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, hit it.
Speaker 3: But the Bulls then get the ball back and they
Speaker 3: got a dunk. I think it was a Derek Doones
Speaker 3: junior dunk. So they got a four point play, then
Speaker 3: the dunk. Six points on one possession plus the two
Speaker 3: to one. That doesn't happen very often.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like John Schuman's wet dream session. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, get some get some crazy hard. Sorry to
Speaker 2: put that visual in your head, John Shuman hard. That'll
Speaker 2: never be able to shake that one all day, willari
Speaker 2: all right? Our next game here, Joel Embiid a monster.
Speaker 2: This one got me hard. Forty three points, seventy six
Speaker 2: ers held off the pesky Hornets, who are very short
Speaker 2: man right now, a lot of guys in health and
Speaker 2: safety protocols as well. Hornets won twenty seven excuse me
Speaker 2: six ers one over Charlotte in overtime. I was locked
Speaker 2: in on this one. Task was one of the earlier games.
Speaker 2: Obviously fairly any very entertaining. What do you think of
Speaker 2: this one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, came down to the wire and the Hornets broadcasters
Speaker 4: thought they were going to pull it out with a
Speaker 4: very short handed team and the stars in the health
Speaker 4: and safety protocol no lamellow ball right now, but it
Speaker 4: was coming down to the wire. And it's a true
Speaker 4: small market team with the broadcasters that are true homers.
Speaker 4: When they're on the broadcast, they're just pulling for the
Speaker 4: home team. They're just yearning for the home team. And
Speaker 4: they were just saying, basically, with four minutes left, they
Speaker 4: had the lead, it looked like, you know, it looked
Speaker 4: like they could pull it out, and they're just saying,
Speaker 4: we just need.
Speaker 6: A couple stops.
Speaker 4: So we just need a couple of stops, and this
Speaker 4: will be a signature win, a huge win. This could
Speaker 4: turn our season around. And that made it fun because
Speaker 4: then Joel Embiid ripped their heart out because it was
Speaker 4: pretty fun to see the Joel Embiid of last year.
Speaker 4: Just talked about zach Lavina. Last year, Embiid has been,
Speaker 4: you know, not quite himself, not quite the runner up
Speaker 4: in the MVP voting. And I thought he had his
Speaker 4: best game in this one. Everything going through him. Charlotte
Speaker 4: had no answer for him. He had a forty two
Speaker 4: point night a couple weeks ago. He's playing Karl Anthony Towns,
Speaker 4: but this one was forty three against the Hornets team
Speaker 4: Again that's too small, so they're doubling him. And he
Speaker 4: only took two threes in this one, so it's pretty cool.
Speaker 4: And that jump shot with their seconds left, it looks
Speaker 4: like a bad shot for a lot of big men.
Speaker 4: But he was able to tie the game from the
Speaker 4: mid range, where is where he killed everyone last year.
Speaker 4: That is where Joel Embiid made his money last year.
Speaker 4: They just were able to find him with you know
Speaker 4: those entry passes in the mid post, because the Sixers
Speaker 4: do and did in this game, struggle to get him
Speaker 4: the ball in the post. Bad passes, bad angles, just
Speaker 4: struggling to find it there. But if Joel Embiid, like
Speaker 4: with thirty seconds left, can take the ball up top
Speaker 4: and just drag his defender into the mid range and
Speaker 4: hit shots like he did last year at an incredible rate.
Speaker 4: That's why he was so good. They're unstoppable, and that's
Speaker 4: how the Sixers pulled this one off. And Kelly Ubray
Speaker 4: helped out by taking a bad shot there, although he
Speaker 4: had a big three and then he took a bad
Speaker 4: shot because that's the Kelly Ubray experience. But yeah, the
Speaker 4: Hornets olmost pulled it out. But yeah, what's that LaMelo
Speaker 4: ball really running the show? I thought that kind of
Speaker 4: heart at the end with that Ubray shot. But yeah,
Speaker 4: great great effort at home in the uh yeah, the
Speaker 4: gradient jury, the Kellyambre jerseys and they almost pulled. That
Speaker 4: would have been as much as Dell and Air Collins
Speaker 4: wanted it the broadcasters there, that would have been a
Speaker 4: really big win. But yeah, that was a that was
Speaker 4: a dagger there by Joel Embiide to pull it into
Speaker 4: overtime and then yeah, they pulled it off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a monster line. The forty three points, fifteen boards,
Speaker 2: seven assists on fifteen to twenty shooting for embiid twelve
Speaker 2: or fourteen at the line there as well, Leley, and
Speaker 2: I think Task is right. That's what I thought watching
Speaker 2: this games, like, oh yeah, Joelle Embiid last year was
Speaker 2: a legit MVP guy and you know, hasn't really been
Speaker 2: the case for a whole chunk of this season because
Speaker 2: you missed a big chunk of it too, with his
Speaker 2: own worries there with COVID, and he's talked about that.
Speaker 2: So it was cool to be reminded of, like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: this guy can can sort of tilt a playoff series
Speaker 2: or you know, obviously like a favorite even in an
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference when he plays like that, because when the
Speaker 2: mid range is going, I don't really know how to stop.
Speaker 1: Him, no, and it certainly helps when they done don't
Speaker 1: really have a big, tall guy who can get.
Speaker 2: Up there with PG. Weisher didn't that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean, that's a problem that the Hornets
Speaker 1: have faced a lot this season. Plumbley's out right now anyway,
Speaker 1: so and Plumbley's not a great defender, but he's at
Speaker 1: least tall. I can maybe get his hand up a
Speaker 1: little bit higher than Washington. But all things considered, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Hornets had a chance to win this game. They
Speaker 1: still nearly could pull it off. Kelly Hubra, I mean,
Speaker 1: what a what a fantastic overall game he had, But
Speaker 1: he did have like that mislay up at the start
Speaker 1: of overtime as well, So he had a couple of
Speaker 1: those plays that just kind of take a little off
Speaker 1: the table despite the six threes that he had going
Speaker 1: into the starting lineup. But yeah, Eric Collins a couple
Speaker 1: of times, I mean openly just like saying, oh and
Speaker 1: beads settling, bang, knocked it in and bead settling bang.
Speaker 1: Avin Dell pulled him into line and said, you can't
Speaker 1: say that's settling because that's exactly he's knocking those in.
Speaker 6: So it was great.
Speaker 1: But Embiid also talked about I think you know, he's
Speaker 1: had that coronavirus, so was out for a while and
Speaker 1: that probably affected his conditioning, and he sort of said
Speaker 1: he was looking back at tape and he's got to
Speaker 1: establish a bit more of that position down low because
Speaker 1: that's where he really is unstoppable again, especially against smaller guys.
Speaker 1: Now they're tougher guys, but MBT is just a better player.
Speaker 1: So it was good to see him really put his
Speaker 1: dominance on this game last night. He only had seven
Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter and six in the overtime.
Speaker 1: Now I say only because it felt like he had
Speaker 1: way more than that. It felt like it was one
Speaker 1: of those games where he had you look at the boxer,
Speaker 1: he's had, well, he must have had, you know, eighteen
Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter. He didn't quite dominate in
Speaker 1: that aspect, but his presence was clearly the difference here
Speaker 1: between these two teams. But the crowd last night seemed
Speaker 1: really into it as well. Charlotte's not one of those
Speaker 1: arenas that you looked at where the crowd's going crazy,
Speaker 1: but they were last night because it was such an
Speaker 1: entertaining game. So really good win for the Sixers to
Speaker 1: pull that out. Good performance by the Hornets all things considered.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Eric Collins and del Curry must listen to
Speaker 1: those guys. They're always so entertaining.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Collins was going nuts on a couple uh
Speaker 2: dunks last night gee saw and then book note huge
Speaker 2: put back dunk in the fourth quarter where Collins was
Speaker 2: losing his mind. Yeah, I mean, if the Hornets are playing,
Speaker 2: I'm always listening to the Hornets broadcast. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: it's just too it's just too much fun. It makes
Speaker 2: the game so much more enjoyable. And the Hornets play
Speaker 2: a bunch of these insane games too. No one plays deep,
Speaker 2: they don't play defense. Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: I think they've given up like one hundred and thirty
Speaker 3: points or thereabouts to almost every opponent this year.
Speaker 2: The JT.
Speaker 3: Thor dunk was hilarious. Of course, Eric Collins hits us
Speaker 3: with he threw a lightning bowl. That's expected, right, the
Speaker 3: guy's last name is Thor. My favorite line he had
Speaker 3: on it, though, was I think he just cleared his
Speaker 3: sinuses too? What's literally?
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 3: The only the only bigger question I had was afterwards.
Speaker 3: According to the ap doc, Rivers called this game for
Speaker 3: Joel Embiid a feed the pig game. YE don't like
Speaker 3: that at all, very much like bore on the floor,
Speaker 3: very disgusting. But I like to see the deeper post
Speaker 3: ups from Embiid. Like he does have a nice midrange jumper.
Speaker 3: I feel like he can get a little bit too
Speaker 3: patrick ewing at times where he would rather shoot the
Speaker 3: midranger than get that boost inside. But only five misses
Speaker 3: on the night he got started inside and then worked
Speaker 3: his way out to the mid range game. He's taken
Speaker 3: double digit pre throw attempts in four or five games
Speaker 3: since coming back from COVID, so you can tell he's
Speaker 3: rounding in this shape and really mashing guys down low.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Tobias Harris was also good I think for the Sixers
Speaker 2: last night. I think a twenty to ten game, twenty
Speaker 2: one and eleven something like that, contributing there. He had
Speaker 2: been in and oute of this lineup too, So Sixers,
Speaker 2: I think I heard maybe there on the Daily Ding
Speaker 2: this morning. First time the Sixers have won back to
Speaker 2: back games in like a month. Yeah, so you know,
Speaker 2: obviously they want to start rising back up the Eastern
Speaker 2: Conference standings as they get these players back, and we
Speaker 2: wait and see whether or not they of course make
Speaker 2: a move. All right, let's keep it going here. The
Speaker 2: Hawks hit twenty five to three pointers twenty five to
Speaker 2: beat the Timberwolves one twenty one, one ten. Get startedly.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 1: The Hawks needed a convincing victory because they lost the
Speaker 1: night before at home to the Hornets and then on
Speaker 1: Friday night at home to the Sixers. Now, okay, that's fine.
Speaker 1: The Sixers are a team that they can afford a
Speaker 1: lost to and then they came out last night and
Speaker 1: just pounded Minnesota from deep twenty five threes, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: only forty nine attempts, and every single player except for
Speaker 1: Clint Capella hit a three for the Hawks last night.
Speaker 1: Timothy Lua wu At Cabiri went seven to fourteen in
Speaker 1: the Star.
Speaker 3: Yeah, John Collins three Italian ones, Yeah yeah, No Frenchies,
Speaker 3: Trey hit for Danilla.
Speaker 1: Gallinari off the bench had four, Kevin Huerta had two,
Speaker 1: Gorgy Jiang even hit three last night. So honestly, the
Speaker 1: Timberwolves didn't play terrible. They didn't defend the three point
Speaker 1: line well, but they were just chasing the Hawks all night,
Speaker 1: and the Hawks just didn't cool off. And so you know,
Speaker 1: this is this is a real modern day game the
Speaker 1: way it's played, where you just came down and was
Speaker 1: like everyone spreads the floor out and if everyone gets hot,
Speaker 1: becomes contagious. We know that sometimes teams can go just
Speaker 1: as cold from outside as the Hawks got hot last night,
Speaker 1: and the Timberleves just didn't really have an answer. They
Speaker 1: didn't have D'Angelo Russell last night. Now I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that helps them defensively, but offensively they could have used
Speaker 1: him out there to at least try to keep up
Speaker 1: with the Hawks, but they just weren't able to timbles.
Speaker 1: Another one of those little runs they go on where
Speaker 1: it's like are they okay or are they not very good?
Speaker 6: Last night was more in the column of like they
Speaker 6: just they just.
Speaker 1: Can't seem to ever solidify a position where you think, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe this team is good. Edwards and cat sure, fine,
Speaker 1: but they were just down last night and just never
Speaker 1: really got into the game because they couldn't stop the
Speaker 1: Hawks hitting threes. I mean, like I say, when everyone
Speaker 1: off the bench is just coming out there firing away
Speaker 1: like that, it's pretty hard to stop. And Chris finch Finchy,
Speaker 1: he talked about their defensive effort, and it's like, Yep,
Speaker 1: you can talk about it all you want, but if
Speaker 1: a team's lighting you up for four straight quarters, then
Speaker 1: it's really on the players, I think.
Speaker 2: Chah So, I know you were locked in a little
Speaker 2: bit on this Hikeswolves game, so he tweeted about it
Speaker 2: last night. I think to add to Lely's breakdown there
Speaker 2: from a very solid Hawks win there on a back
Speaker 2: to back situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, franchise record twenty five threes because timoth A Lulu
Speaker 4: Cabrero was not part of the game plan for the
Speaker 4: Minnesota Timberwolves. They just left him open.
Speaker 5: Understandable.
Speaker 4: He went seven to fourteen from three bang bang bang bang.
Speaker 4: That was huge, and Danilo Gallinari looked like it was
Speaker 4: ten years ago. He looks spry off the bench. He
Speaker 4: looked like a totally different guy. He looked like he
Speaker 4: was having some Italian wine. Now, Lee, are you saying
Speaker 4: there was only Italian wines on the because you missed
Speaker 4: his section?
Speaker 5: I told I told you too, I told you right then.
Speaker 4: But anyways, it doesn't matter. The wine was fine, no
Speaker 4: matter what JD says. It was fine.
Speaker 5: I didn't say it was bad. What are you talking about?
Speaker 4: No, yeah, oh, I thought you said it was pissy.
Speaker 4: I thought you word pissy. Oh what was the word
Speaker 4: you used?
Speaker 7: Delicious?
Speaker 5: I don't know what.
Speaker 7: I don't remember saying anything bad about the winy order.
Speaker 2: Everybody relaxed. He didn't he didn't mind the wine that
Speaker 2: Lee picked at Dark Christmas Dinner on Friday night.
Speaker 7: People were upsett me because I said Charraz sucks. That's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, people.
Speaker 7: Were, which it does. I stand by that it's horrible.
Speaker 7: You know it's a grape. Don't come at me because
Speaker 7: of a single grape. There's a whole litany of delicious
Speaker 7: wines out there. I just don't like chiraz anyways, carry on,
Speaker 7: There are a.
Speaker 4: Lot of grapes. There are a lot of grapes out there.
Speaker 4: When you think about it, there's hundreds millions of grapes.
Speaker 4: You don't think of that. There's a lot of grapes anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Danilo Gallinari was squishing some grapes between his feet. He
Speaker 4: looked great out there. Twenty five threes. Yeah, they were
Speaker 4: just moving the ball so nicely. The Hawks, I think,
Speaker 4: were a little pissed off after their last their last
Speaker 4: loss on the weekend, and yeah, they look like they
Speaker 4: turned it around.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: Didn't have D'Angelo Russell, and I think that was a
Speaker 4: big part of why they looked the way they looked
Speaker 4: in Karl Anthony Town's coming back from from that injury
Speaker 4: in his first game. But yeah, the Hawks weren't gonna
Speaker 4: lose this game. The way they were moving it around.
Speaker 4: Twenty five doesn't seem like it should be a franchise
Speaker 4: high for that team, the way they let it fly,
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's it. Is a lot of threes, even
Speaker 4: in today's game.
Speaker 2: All right, our next game, just really quickly here Jannis
Speaker 2: scored twenty seven points on his twenty seventh birthday as
Speaker 2: the Bucks beat the Cavs one twelve, one oh four.
Speaker 2: It gets even better than that because Bleacher Report pointing
Speaker 2: out that he also played in twenty seven minutes. Lately
Speaker 2: you like the numbers? Are you numerologist? What does it mean?
Speaker 3: What does it mean?
Speaker 2: I really just wanted to ask you, Lee, what you
Speaker 2: did on your twenty seventh birthday and if you totally
Speaker 2: you could show us.
Speaker 6: Yes, give me a minute and I'll get one, because
Speaker 6: it was the.
Speaker 2: Just tell me about it.
Speaker 1: It was the Champions League Final in two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: three at Old Trafford in Manchester. It was Icee Milan
Speaker 1: versus Juventus. I was there for that game was on
Speaker 1: my birthday. So your twenty seventh birthday, yes, eight, two
Speaker 1: thousand and three.
Speaker 2: Honestly amaze me. I was getting ready for the show
Speaker 2: this morning, showering, thinking, oh, I'll ask Lee what he
Speaker 2: did on his twenty seventh birthday. I doubt he'll even know,
Speaker 2: because I was like, I don't know what he did
Speaker 2: on my twenty seventh. No clue, but of course you know,
Speaker 2: you know exactly where you were, and you have a
Speaker 2: photo that you're searching for right now.
Speaker 6: Yes I am.
Speaker 2: Anyway from this game, another feisty performance from the Cavs.
Speaker 2: Tasks like they're they're in a lot of these games.
Speaker 2: They were. They had a chance to take the lead
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. Obviously come up short, but that's okay.
Speaker 2: The fight is there. But the Yeah, the Bucks are
Speaker 2: just too good when their three guys are playing. They're
Speaker 2: still undefeated if anybody's keeping track when Jannis Middleton and
Speaker 2: Drew Holiday are in the lineup. So that's good.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: Joannis hit all three of his threes last night. Also
Speaker 2: nice twelve boards. You know, he was returning from this
Speaker 2: sore right calf. The Bucks had split those two games
Speaker 2: that he missed, so they're not too upset with that.
Speaker 2: But also an in state insane stat in the AP report,
Speaker 2: the Bucks are forty three and four forty three and
Speaker 2: four against the Central Division since Budenholzer took over as
Speaker 2: coach in twenty eighteen. Holy crap, that is I know
Speaker 2: it's I know the Bulls have had some rough years,
Speaker 2: right right, TK, Yeah, there's a lot of pittass in
Speaker 2: the central Pistons and who's the final one?
Speaker 4: I'm for you have Bulls, Pistons, Boots and the Pacers.
Speaker 2: That's that's wild though only four losses. I mean some
Speaker 2: of those teams are bad, you guys are right, but
Speaker 2: that's still this is the NBA's that's a crazy stat.
Speaker 2: So they have taken care of business against the central division.
Speaker 4: I'm surely what's that n that that site that you
Speaker 4: referenced there with the with the trade the other day
Speaker 4: than the.
Speaker 2: NAMBA Analysis Network.
Speaker 4: I think Analysis Network that's the one. I'm sure they've
Speaker 4: got a report on it. They love doing division reports. Yes,
Speaker 4: they go division by division hard on the uh so yeah, Yeahannis, Yeah,
Speaker 4: he just he pulled it out the end. I think
Speaker 4: it is easy to forget as he said that they
Speaker 4: haven't been healthy. I know we talk about Brook Lopez
Speaker 4: a lot, but everybody has been in and out of
Speaker 4: the lineup. So unbeaten with their big three and uh
Speaker 4: feeling good about themselves is they're you know, part of
Speaker 4: the nets Bulls, a little triumvirate at the top. Thing
Speaker 4: they feel great and Yannie, yeah it was it was
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter where he just kind of like
Speaker 4: finished the game. And I had picked the Calves to
Speaker 4: cover that six and a half point spread, and then
Speaker 4: Yanni's just splashed a three in the last minute just
Speaker 4: to ice it. But the Calves are always going to
Speaker 4: be there for sure. They're always going to fight, and
Speaker 4: uh yeah, they're not going to cover if Yanbo was
Speaker 4: hitting three pointers. Yeah he looks. He looks great a
Speaker 4: couple of games off, feeling good on his twenty seventh birthday.
Speaker 5: Happy Birthday, Yanni.
Speaker 2: Uh well did you find it?
Speaker 6: Lee?
Speaker 2: I mean, I have to kick come on, I just
Speaker 2: want to see this photo. Now, that's definitely going to
Speaker 2: be underwhelming. It's going to be you standing outside a building.
Speaker 2: Let's see it. Here we go, Happy twenty seventh birthday.
Speaker 2: Oh it's standing inside a building. Okay, this's actually blue shirt.
Speaker 5: Oh why are you wearing a bat blue shirt?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Well that was in that bag? What you got in
Speaker 5: that bag?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, I lived in Canada for a year before that,
Speaker 1: so I was still in my Canadian you know, sort
Speaker 1: of phase there.
Speaker 5: But yeah, but you got that.
Speaker 2: Shirt free in a case of beer. That's you didn't
Speaker 2: buy it?
Speaker 6: Probably yeah, yeah, probably most likely yeah, yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2: Hey, happy belated birthday too, Thanks man, Thanks.
Speaker 6: I appreciate it for sure.
Speaker 2: You're twenty seventh birthday twenty all right, great one the
Speaker 2: other games from last night, I'll just throw them all
Speaker 2: at your task, go wherever you want. Grizzlies won their
Speaker 2: fifth straight, led by Desmond Bean and his big arms
Speaker 2: and then Dylan Brooks and his crazy face. The thunder
Speaker 2: rallied to beat the Pistons. They ended their eight game skid.
Speaker 2: Ok see Detroit will actually touch on that later, of course,
Speaker 2: with the pick them Pacers pulled away early. They held
Speaker 2: off the Wizards for the one sixteen one to ten win.
Speaker 2: Chris Paul did his thing twenty one and ten Suns
Speaker 2: beat the Spurs one O eight one oh four. Korean
Speaker 2: Wiggins led the Warriors to a blowout victory over the Magic,
Speaker 2: and Paul George scored twenty one as the Clippers took
Speaker 2: care of the shorthanded Blazers one two ninety Any of
Speaker 2: those games you wanted to touch on?
Speaker 4: Well, the thunder jumping back from a seventy three point loss.
Speaker 4: That's pretty good, they tweeted after their seventy three point loss.
Speaker 4: A photo of a couple of their guys with the
Speaker 4: caption regroup and back at it Monday. Everybody laughed at
Speaker 4: them regrouping back at it Monday.
Speaker 6: Ha ha.
Speaker 4: And they came back at one on Monday. They followed
Speaker 4: through on the Twit good for them, and they were down.
Speaker 6: And then that was down eighteen points at this yeah
Speaker 6: as well. So what does that say about the Pistons?
Speaker 2: I mean, well, according to you, they should be investigated
Speaker 2: for tanking and uh Silver should step in and stripping
Speaker 2: out in the front office.
Speaker 6: Of the role.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a that was a very impressive bounce
Speaker 1: back there from the night. Now, they obviously had Giddy
Speaker 1: and gilges Alexander back as well, which helped. But the Pistons,
Speaker 1: I mean, come on losing having an eighteen point game
Speaker 1: and then a lead and then losing.
Speaker 6: By did they lose? What double digits? Was it in
Speaker 6: the end?
Speaker 1: I know it was out there to double digit I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what the final was. But what about the
Speaker 1: Memphis Grizzlies also, let's give them some love. Five consecutive
Speaker 1: games now where they have not trailed at all.
Speaker 6: That is unbelievable. So now the heat, obviosly they're down
Speaker 6: a few players. Jimmy Butler was.
Speaker 1: Back there last night. He played, I think, yeah, he
Speaker 1: picked up another injury. But even still, for the Grizzlies
Speaker 1: to be doing all this still without Jar Morant is
Speaker 1: quite an incredible achievement by them. So their defense is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Right over those last five games, the defensive rating is
Speaker 1: ninety unbelievable.
Speaker 6: Stuff unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Some people are saying they should trade Drumrean, trading to
Speaker 2: the Pistons.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this is.
Speaker 2: Tk any of those games I threw at the end
Speaker 2: that you want to do touch on quickly.
Speaker 3: Steph Curry made seven threes, So now he is fifteen
Speaker 3: threes away from passing Ray Allen, or for tying Ray
Speaker 3: Allen for most all time, sixteen away from passing him
Speaker 3: for most in the regular season. He's not ruling it
Speaker 3: out for the next game they play against the Blazers,
Speaker 3: which is a perfect perfect opponent to try and go
Speaker 3: for a sixteen to three game. As he mentioned, he
Speaker 3: knows that what that would do for Klay Thompson's current
Speaker 3: record for most threes in a game. So, yeah, seven
Speaker 3: threes last night, but it's really just more exciting to
Speaker 3: see what Steph Curry does in his next game, because
Speaker 3: it kind of feels like he's going to at least
Speaker 3: try to go for the.
Speaker 5: All time three point record.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sign me up, I'll watch. Is it is it
Speaker 2: in Potland or it's in Golden State?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's at home. Like Trey said, he needs
Speaker 2: sixteen to surpass Rayaleen for regular season three pointers made.
Speaker 2: If it doesn't happen then, which I mean that would
Speaker 2: be a record sixteen threes, then they're on a five
Speaker 2: road trips, so it would be happening probably on the
Speaker 2: road lately. Uh, Philadelphia, Indiana, New York, Madison Square, Guarden there,
Speaker 2: Boston and Toronto.
Speaker 1: He then he's gotta if he doesn't do it against
Speaker 1: the Blazes, he's got to do it in the Garden,
Speaker 1: doesn't he?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 6: I mean that's the next biggest.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, but you'd have to miss a lot
Speaker 2: of threes on purpose to get to Game four.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's got to.
Speaker 2: Be the Blazers.
Speaker 3: Would I would also accept against the Philadelphia seventy six
Speaker 3: ers with his brother there? Oh yeah, well maybe you
Speaker 3: can rest against the Pacers on that Monday if you're
Speaker 3: not there, do it in the garden right, just basically
Speaker 3: anything except for the Pacers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think he'll do You think he'll legit,
Speaker 2: give it a go on Wednesday night?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think so. Why not?
Speaker 4: It'd be a great way to do it, he's saying.
Speaker 4: He said after the game, I know exactly where I'm at.
Speaker 4: He's definitely aware of what the hell's happening. This is
Speaker 4: one that he knows. Yeah, the best shooting in the world.
Speaker 4: He's going for it. Man. That play at the end
Speaker 4: of the first quarter was so amazing where he's in
Speaker 4: his backcourt and Gary Harris poked it from him and
Speaker 4: scored seven seconds left in the courter, and then he
Speaker 4: just goes up, shoots a half court shot and buries
Speaker 4: it in Gary Harris's eye. That was amazing.
Speaker 2: I swear to god, he's done this like it feels
Speaker 2: like three straight games where he's hit like a half
Speaker 2: court shot to end a quarter or end a half.
Speaker 2: I mean, at least it's two. Maybe I'm stretching it
Speaker 2: to three, but it feels like every game. Rightly, there's
Speaker 2: a Steph Curry highlight where he hits something at the
Speaker 2: end of a quarter or a half from forty five
Speaker 2: feet forty.
Speaker 1: Feet, and that's why guys should try to do it
Speaker 1: rather than save their field goal percentage, because it's way
Speaker 1: better when guys knock them in. But everyone tries. Everyone
Speaker 1: just releases it just after the buzzer. I think Worldwide
Speaker 1: calls it the field Goal Percentage Savings Club.
Speaker 2: His name is world or Worldwide, you know I'm talking
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 1: He changes his name after someone has a big knoight.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's changed it from anyone from
Speaker 1: last night, like to one bead or someone you.
Speaker 6: Know, But that's why I just got to go with
Speaker 6: the Worldwide had.
Speaker 1: He had a funny video up the other day after
Speaker 1: the Knicks lost to the Nuggets.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys saw it, but one
Speaker 6: of those ones a minute long and you're watching it
Speaker 6: and he doesn't say anything.
Speaker 2: Oh I watched that because you keep white.
Speaker 1: It's a great video because you're like, you're waiting, waiting,
Speaker 1: is it And then you're like, have I done something wrong?
Speaker 6: Is it's frozen or whatever? And then you just realize
Speaker 6: that's that says so much without saying anything.
Speaker 2: First name, world, last name, wob. Why just what we're
Speaker 2: talking about?
Speaker 4: That's not about about a guy who's I'm not sure
Speaker 4: whose name if his first name is George or Paul, Paul, George,
Speaker 4: George Paul. Anyway, fifty percent in October from the floor,
Speaker 4: forty one percent in November now down to twenty nine
Speaker 4: percent in December. From an MVP candidate does it every year?
Speaker 4: That's shocking, every shocking that it happened again because he
Speaker 4: was an MVP candidate to start. Now he's he's fallen off.
Speaker 4: Although yeah, they squeaked one out there against the Blazer
Speaker 4: because they always squeaking out. But uh, yeah, the Blazer's
Speaker 4: falling off.
Speaker 5: We'll get to them, won't We hold on the Thunder
Speaker 5: the Thunder, I know, we laugh about.
Speaker 4: The Thunder and ha ha ha. Yeah, they've got more
Speaker 4: wins than the Pistons. But the guy who turned around
Speaker 4: that game was Kenrich Williams. I thought he was just
Speaker 4: like the scrappy guy off the bench. Now if they
Speaker 4: trade him, that's the reason to shut that team down.
Speaker 4: Shut down, shut down, because he's he is a guy
Speaker 4: who's like he's a winner. He just he comes in
Speaker 4: and just turns the game around. And to me, yeah,
Speaker 4: Shay was back. Obviously, Giddy was back. They look good,
Speaker 4: and how can they be shut down if they have
Speaker 4: more wins than the Detroit Pistons. It's because of how
Speaker 4: they handle their players. And to me, last year they
Speaker 4: weren't reprimanded for the Horford and the Shay sitting down.
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to January and February if they trade
Speaker 4: Kenrich Williams to a team that needs a guy that
Speaker 4: you know has a little spark plug and they're just well,
Speaker 4: what do they do it? It's gonna happen. Anyways, It's
Speaker 4: gonna happen.
Speaker 3: It'll happen between the six point possession and all is
Speaker 3: Kenrich Williams talk. This might be John Schumann's favorite episode
Speaker 3: of B it.
Speaker 2: Is he loves Oh yeah, crazy haircut. All right, let's
Speaker 2: take our first break. When we come back, we will
Speaker 2: talk some non Dmian Millar trades for the Blazers. Lee
Speaker 2: what you got? I'm almost afraid to ask JD. But
Speaker 2: how is the classic factory coming along?
Speaker 7: It's come along. We're making progress, so I mean, I'm
Speaker 7: not I'm not exaggerating when I say that everything doesn't
Speaker 7: work when I first plug it in.
Speaker 2: Actually really shocking to me. You think this stuff at
Speaker 2: this point twenty twenty one. You know, you're plugging this
Speaker 2: stuff and it just and it just goes. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Now, now when you reach sort of like we're we're
Speaker 7: leveling up, so we're in sort of the pro land assertive.
Speaker 7: We're that like the prosumer land, right, So it's like
Speaker 7: there's very little instructions that come with this stuff. And
Speaker 7: then you got to call the you gotta call and
Speaker 7: you get attitude man like oh god, these gear head man,
Speaker 7: they're like.
Speaker 5: Well, of course it doesn't. That's a fifty six K light.
Speaker 7: Of course it doesn't.
Speaker 5: You can't warm that up. You need gel man, man.
Speaker 7: I just I just want to make a podcast, bro.
Speaker 7: All right, progress though, we're getting there, we're getting. Short
Speaker 7: answer is we're getting.
Speaker 2: That, all right, baby steps guys to the Classic Factory
Speaker 2: coming together. Okay, so let's get into some Blazers trade talk.
Speaker 2: I can't tell if people like this stuff or hate it,
Speaker 2: but who cares.
Speaker 7: We're doing it.
Speaker 2: You know, we talked a lot about on yesterday show
Speaker 2: at least about the direction the Blazer should go. Should
Speaker 2: it be like blow it up and that means trade
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard because he would want out of there. Or
Speaker 2: is it like try and keep at happy and shake
Speaker 2: it up by moving some of these other potential guys
Speaker 2: on their roster. I'm a column a nurkic, a covey team.
Speaker 2: So that's what we're gonna do here. I tweeted it
Speaker 2: out yesterday. I said, hey, MBA Sickles, let's see your
Speaker 2: best non Damian Lillard trades for the Trailblazers. And I said,
Speaker 2: you know, those three guys make the most sense. What
Speaker 2: you got. People love trades, holy crapp lely. A lot
Speaker 2: of responses, a lot of like decent ones, a lot
Speaker 2: of convoluted ones. I will say, where you get into
Speaker 2: like the three team deals, the four team deals. It's
Speaker 2: a little it's a little much to try and talk
Speaker 2: about on a podcast at times. But I did find
Speaker 2: some that I thought are like, Okay, let's throw that
Speaker 2: at the guys. Let's throw it at the stream team
Speaker 2: and everybody listening and see what they think. So we'll
Speaker 2: go through them sort of player by player here. We're
Speaker 2: starting with CJ McCollum, and I'm just gonna put aside
Speaker 2: the Sixers move, which I think is the most obvious.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of us agree is probably the
Speaker 2: most obvious in terms of trying to get Ben Simmons.
Speaker 2: Maybe it includes McCollum and then other pieces and picks
Speaker 2: to make it happen. But we've talked enough about that,
Speaker 2: so some other ideas to set up McCollum. I want
Speaker 2: everybody to know, thirty year old shooting guard. He's not
Speaker 2: as young as you sort of think. I always think
Speaker 2: of McCollum as like a twenty five to twenty six
Speaker 2: year old, but he's not. He's in his thirties. He
Speaker 2: probably would have made his first All Star Game last
Speaker 2: year if he didn't get hurt. He was definitely in
Speaker 2: the running, but he's never made that This year, Shade
Speaker 2: under twenty one points per game, forty two percent shooting
Speaker 2: from the floor. Those are those are really bad numbers
Speaker 2: for CJ. McCollum since he's become a starter. I think
Speaker 2: a lot of it has to do with all of
Speaker 2: this trade talk and his name being included in a
Speaker 2: lot of these deals. I know he's talked to to
Speaker 2: UH Jason Quick about it. On the athletic he's also
Speaker 2: having a baby. I think some off court distractions are
Speaker 2: in play here, But he looks a little disinterested and
Speaker 2: he doesn't look like the CJ. McCollum from years prior.
Speaker 2: He makes nearly thirty one million dollars for this year,
Speaker 2: and that only goes up for the final two years
Speaker 2: thirty three, next year thirty six. After that task, it
Speaker 2: does not become easy to trade a CJ. McCollum because
Speaker 2: it makes a lot of money. So of course salary
Speaker 2: has to be coming back. But I want to get
Speaker 2: your take on this one task. There was two similar
Speaker 2: trades thrown at me with McCollum going to the Cavaliers, yes,
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Cavaliers. So the first one was from Taylor.
Speaker 2: It was McCollum and let's say, Nesir Little to the
Speaker 2: Calves for Kevin Love and call and Sexton. Colin Sexton
Speaker 2: is the key piece in both of these. And the
Speaker 2: other one I saw or heard from Sam Vessini and
Speaker 2: Dannie LaRue was McCollum and nobody else really, just McCollum
Speaker 2: to the Cavs for Ricky Rubio, Colin Sexton and Jeddi Osman.
Speaker 2: I just want to ask you, McCollum to the Cavaliers
Speaker 2: with something, a big contract of course, going back to
Speaker 2: make it happen, make any sense at all to you.
Speaker 2: Tasks from either side or no, thanks, I've got gum.
Speaker 4: I am absolutely a Cleveland Cavalier's head. This is what
Speaker 4: I do in my spare time. I follow the Cleveland
Speaker 4: Cavaliers basketball club. I do not think they would make
Speaker 4: such a move. I just understand that he would be
Speaker 4: an upgrade. He is better than what he is This year,
Speaker 4: he was kind of on his way to being an
Speaker 4: All Star before getting hurt. Last year shooting eleven three
Speaker 4: is a game looking phenomenal twenty six points per game.
Speaker 4: That was his best year I am. I just don't
Speaker 4: think he's on the timeline of the Cleveland Cavaliers. As
Speaker 4: you said, thirties. It's not his, it's not his, it's
Speaker 4: not his place there in Cleveland. They have such a
Speaker 4: good thing going on right now. Kobe Altman has made
Speaker 4: some incredible moves to sneak in and grab Jared Allen
Speaker 4: in the four way James Harden deal, and then to
Speaker 4: draft Evan Mobley and Ricky Rubio. Yeah, he's not long
Speaker 4: for Cleveland most likely he's in his thirties too. But
Speaker 4: an upgrade there, it just doesn't make a ton of
Speaker 4: sense to me. I would rather stay young and you
Speaker 4: described Eric was said there and he's snuck in there
Speaker 4: that Jason Quick on the Athletic has talked to c
Speaker 4: J McCollum recently. The start of that article this morning,
Speaker 4: it's not usually. It's not a usual start to the
Speaker 4: article to an article. I was reading Jason Quick's article
Speaker 4: about c J. McCollums, so this I want to read it.
Speaker 4: I want to read Jason Quick's start here.
Speaker 5: This is how it starts.
Speaker 4: I was driving home Monday after the trail Blazer's latest loss,
Speaker 4: deep in thought about a ten minute conversation I just
Speaker 4: had with CJ. McCollum in the back hallway of the
Speaker 4: Motive Center when my phone pained it was McCollum. As
Speaker 4: I looked down at this text message, I was taken
Speaker 4: aback enough so that I pulled over and read it again.
Speaker 4: This is the quote for mccollumn. Oregon is my home
Speaker 4: always will be. I got married here, my son will
Speaker 4: be born here. We bought three hundred and eighteen acres here,
Speaker 4: that's a brig and started planting our vineyard here. This
Speaker 4: city and organization have been very good to me and
Speaker 4: my family were forever grateful and Jason quick writes. As
Speaker 4: my car idled on the side of the road, my
Speaker 4: mind raced that I miss something. Did McCollum get traded.
Speaker 4: I did a quick search. Nothing.
Speaker 5: Damn.
Speaker 4: I texted back. You made it sound like a goodbye.
Speaker 4: It's not a goodbye, he replied. I'm still here. My
Speaker 4: friend mccollm wants to be there forever. He ain't going anywhere.
Speaker 4: It's like him saying, I like it here. I don't
Speaker 4: want to go anywhere. But they have to make a
Speaker 4: move obviously, as we've talked about forever and ever and ever,
Speaker 4: and he could be in on that. But I don't
Speaker 4: see the Calves thing. I'm out. I'm out on the
Speaker 4: Cavs thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, Trey, what do you think of a McCollum to
Speaker 2: a Cavaliers type of deal, which again has to include
Speaker 2: basically a love or a Rubio type contract, and then
Speaker 2: Colin Sexton, I guess, being the key piece going back
Speaker 2: to the Blazers. I don't mind it. From the Cavs perspective. CJ.
Speaker 3: McCollum is an Ohio guy. Maybe a homecoming does him well.
Speaker 3: There would be a spot for him. I think as
Speaker 3: the two guard it would be not dissimilar to playing
Speaker 3: alongside Damian Lillard playing alongside Darius Garland in Cleveland, and
Speaker 3: they would be turning Rubio and expiring contract and the
Speaker 3: potential and the restricted free agency of Colin Sexton, a
Speaker 3: player that doesn't seem to be in their plans, turning
Speaker 3: him into a guy and McCollum who's got a couple
Speaker 3: more years on his contract. I think that's pretty good
Speaker 3: for the Calves, to be quite honest, and I think
Speaker 3: it definitely makes them better, especially considering they're not getting
Speaker 3: anything from Sexton for the rest of this year.
Speaker 2: Lee final thoughts on this one, I actually diminded as well.
Speaker 1: And now it may only get the Calves a few
Speaker 1: more wins and so to get them into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But he's a steady veteran in a apart from last season,
Speaker 1: he's pretty reliable and durable c J. McCollum, and so
Speaker 1: he can give them that veteran presence of another guy
Speaker 1: who can score sextant. I think they probably are moving
Speaker 1: on from him, and yeah, Rubio is not really a
Speaker 1: part of their future either. So if you can get
Speaker 1: c jn it's only thirty, it can be looked at
Speaker 1: as like well that's old, or you can say, well
Speaker 1: he's still got a good two or three years left
Speaker 1: to sort of help this team continues its ascension. So
Speaker 1: I don't mind it. I think there's something there the Cavs.
Speaker 1: I think clearly Garland, Jared Allen and Evan Mobley is
Speaker 1: their sort of core. But if you can get a
Speaker 1: good veteran who you know can get you a bucket
Speaker 1: on the side there, that's not a bad little return
Speaker 1: for a team that's kind of moving on from those
Speaker 1: other pieces anyway.
Speaker 2: Okay, the other one I had from Brad was McCollum
Speaker 2: to the Timberwolves from a league Beasley and Torrian Prince.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to wow anyone here on
Speaker 2: the call, but yeah, what do you think of that move?
Speaker 2: Let's say for the Blaezer, is that enough? I mean
Speaker 2: it works obviously in the train machine tree Beasley and
Speaker 2: Prince get some wing help there for McCollum and moving
Speaker 2: off of him. I think that would be if this
Speaker 2: is something like that were to go down, there would
Speaker 2: be other trades to be had. Of course, Yeah, you'd
Speaker 2: have to do.
Speaker 3: Some of their moves as well, because that's not enough.
Speaker 3: When Ben Simmons is potentially on the table. I would
Speaker 3: rather have the Rubio Sexton love package as well. So
Speaker 3: I don't know, two bench guys for your your second
Speaker 3: leading score.
Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense. Yeah, yeah, I mean it becomes
Speaker 2: difficult with this just path that the Blazers might try
Speaker 2: and take. Here, Lee this idea of like you'd be
Speaker 2: trading these guys McCollum, Nurkic Covington for in theory good
Speaker 2: players now, because you'd want to be appeasing Damian Lillard
Speaker 2: and saying, hey, we're still good, we can be good,
Speaker 2: We're gonna be a playoff team, We're gonna go even
Speaker 2: further than we've gone. That's not obviously easy to do.
Speaker 2: It's much It sort of becomes easier to trade guys
Speaker 2: for like future pieces for flyers on young guys for
Speaker 2: picks and stuff like that. But then if you do that,
Speaker 2: Lillard's gonna be like, what wtf, man, why are we
Speaker 2: doing that? And then and then suddenly you could see
Speaker 2: your off in the summer of him going well, I
Speaker 2: want out of here if that's the plan. So it
Speaker 2: becomes I think that's the dance here. That's difficult for
Speaker 2: Joe Krohnin or whoever is making.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it doesn't make sense to trade those guys
Speaker 1: unless you're going to get some other draft capital in return,
Speaker 1: and then say, Okay, we've got to make this trade
Speaker 1: work financially, but we're doing it mainly so that we
Speaker 1: can start the rebuild process. And if you're doing that,
Speaker 1: then clearly you need to also move on from Lillard.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no point in putting him in a
Speaker 1: rebuild situation right now. But yeah, on the surface, two
Speaker 1: bench kind of journeyman for a solid starter just doesn't
Speaker 1: That doesn't improve Portland at all. So I don't see
Speaker 1: why they would do that. But if the Wolves say, yeah,
Speaker 1: we really want that guy as a scorer, We'll give
Speaker 1: you these two guys and then we'll also give you
Speaker 1: a couple of draft picks, then at least the Blazers
Speaker 1: are like, well, that's something that we're building towards something,
Speaker 1: even if it's not this season.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move to Nurkic. He's averaging thirteen and
Speaker 2: ten this year in about twenty five minutes per game,
Speaker 2: shooting fifty percent from the floor. He's in the final
Speaker 2: year of his deal twelve million dollars he makes. He's
Speaker 2: depending on restricted free agent. He's represented by Clutch Sports.
Speaker 2: Don't forget that, all right, very important now, Rich Paul
Speaker 2: wants to get these guys paid, So probably any deal.
Speaker 2: If Nurkic is going out, the Blazers are gonna need
Speaker 2: some front court reinforcements coming back, and they also are
Speaker 2: going to probably try and make their payroll cheaper. So
Speaker 2: there were a couple suggestions. The first one was from
Speaker 2: man U not Jenobili, another man who Nurkic Covington got
Speaker 2: thrown in this one. And then probably a young player.
Speaker 2: Let's say this here little though I know the Blazers
Speaker 2: are high on him, to the Pacers for Sabonis and
Speaker 2: Jeremy Lamb. So nurk Covington and again probably a young player.
Speaker 2: Let's say this here little for now to the Pacers,
Speaker 2: task for Sabonis and Jeremy Lamb. Sabonis, get another Sabonis
Speaker 2: in Portland. Is this a move they should be looking,
Speaker 2: uh to explore.
Speaker 4: I don't think so, because, yeah, the Blazers would get better,
Speaker 4: the Blazers would do it. I'm sorry the Blazers. Yes,
Speaker 4: of course, they're trading for a start they're trading up,
Speaker 4: but the Pacers would just be another lateral move. That's
Speaker 4: just five good guys becomes I don't know, five and
Speaker 4: a half good guys, and you're kind of trading down.
Speaker 4: You're trading at Sabonis's peak for Nurkic's non peak. They're
Speaker 4: not getting better, So I don't think so. I think
Speaker 4: along with McCollum, along with even Nurkic, I know he's
Speaker 4: not playing his best, I think we're kind of undervaluing
Speaker 4: the Blazers. I know, I am, I know. You know
Speaker 4: McCollum would would go make the Calves a lot better
Speaker 4: at the shooting guard position, especially on a really good
Speaker 4: defensive team when he's struggled on the defensive end. And
Speaker 4: I think we kind of undervalue Nurkic and stuff. But
Speaker 4: uh yeah, I think that's that's It doesn't make the
Speaker 4: Pacers better at all.
Speaker 2: Great, that's a great trade for the Blazers. So I'm
Speaker 2: with you on that. Yeah, And I don't think Indiana,
Speaker 2: you guys are seem to be agreeing leally anything to.
Speaker 1: Add, Oh yeah, I'll taikema have a nakish. But I
Speaker 1: just don't see why the Paces would do that. To
Speaker 1: give up, to give up Sabarnis to get nurkitchen return.
Speaker 1: They would want some sort of draft assets I think,
Speaker 1: and yeah, signaling that they are then moving in that
Speaker 1: direction and probably then that is a bit of a
Speaker 1: domino effect on trading turner and when becomes available Brogdon
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, this one Nurkics to the Hornets, that's been a
Speaker 2: popular one. They could use a big guy to try
Speaker 2: and Guardoel and Bead last night to put up a
Speaker 2: better effort, at least put a hand up. So why
Speaker 2: don't we just do a NRK for plumb Dog again,
Speaker 2: that's Sam Vassini Nurkics to the Hornets for Plumbley and
Speaker 2: then one of their young front court guys. Okay, so
Speaker 2: like a Jalen McDaniels, like a Nick Richards, like a
Speaker 2: kai Jon. So that that would be the deal to
Speaker 2: get Nirkish to Charlotte, and then the Blazers in return
Speaker 2: getting like a prospect type guy and then a plumb
Speaker 2: Dog who has played there before. And uh and while
Speaker 2: he's a plum dog, you might have an opinion on him,
Speaker 2: but what do you think trade? No way something like
Speaker 2: this happens.
Speaker 3: Well, I love the idea of finally uniting a plumb
Speaker 3: Lee and a Zeller there for the Trailblazers.
Speaker 2: That would be just incredible.
Speaker 3: But to me, Nurkic going to the Hornets makes sense,
Speaker 3: but then trading several big guys does not make sense.
Speaker 3: Like you said, they need help inside, Nurkic would help.
Speaker 3: I'm not the biggest Nurkic fan, but he's certainly an
Speaker 3: improvement over Nick Richards, who they've been playing. But if
Speaker 3: you're trading two of your three centers to bring back
Speaker 3: one center, you're still one center down, and that's clearly
Speaker 3: been the biggest weakness for the Hornets. So I would
Speaker 3: rather trade one of their random backcourt guys, like maybe Booknight.
Speaker 3: He just hasn't had a chance to really get on
Speaker 3: the court, and it doesn't seem like he's necessarily going
Speaker 3: to with the squad they've got put together right now.
Speaker 2: But I do like the idea of Nurkic on the Hornets.
Speaker 2: Tess can make can you come up with something you know?
Speaker 2: Would the Hornets explore this, like Trey saying one of
Speaker 2: their young guys and then whatever else to make the
Speaker 2: contracts work to get Nurkic in there, and it could
Speaker 2: be a rental. This is the weird thing with Nurkic.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like, you know, I don't know if
Speaker 2: you'd be agreeing to some sort of deal in the future. Again,
Speaker 2: you're going to be negotiating with Rich Paul and Clutch Sports,
Speaker 2: So maybe that concerns teams and like they're like, I
Speaker 2: don't want to be the one paying Nurkic, you know,
Speaker 2: fifteen million a year, No, thank you.
Speaker 4: But what do you think Nurkic is a Clutch Sports guy?
Speaker 5: I didn't know that.
Speaker 4: It didn't didn't seem like a fit to me. Nurkicen Clutch.
Speaker 4: That's a surprise. But yeah, the Hornets are long for
Speaker 4: a big guy, and yeah, they've been drafting athletic wing
Speaker 4: after athletic wing after athletic wing. It seems like there's
Speaker 4: a match to happen there and the Hornets, you go
Speaker 4: back a couple of years. They thought they had Markasol
Speaker 4: at the deadline before the Raptors got them. They are
Speaker 4: looking for an experience big and I'm not just thinking
Speaker 4: of white centers that would fit, but Nurkic would fit. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they wanted the soul. Now, Yeah, Nurkic would be nice,
Speaker 4: a nice player for them. And again, I know Nurkich
Speaker 4: has not lived up to the hype there in Portland
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 5: But ele Rental give it a shot.
Speaker 4: I mean the Hornets have They're just they're overflowing with
Speaker 4: all these these really athletic wings, So I could see
Speaker 4: something working there.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, Lee, I just think if the Blazers move
Speaker 2: off Nurkic, Blazers fans, maybe everybody would need to lower
Speaker 2: their expectations of what would be coming back in return,
Speaker 2: because you sort of think of Nurkic as a decent
Speaker 2: player when he when he is playing at his best,
Speaker 2: Blazers look like a really really good team over the
Speaker 2: last couple years, and then he has these weird funks
Speaker 2: where he's just like can't stay on the court because
Speaker 2: of foul trouble or you know, he's always like sort
Speaker 2: of injury prone a little bit too. And then he's
Speaker 2: like a big dip. But he's like, nobody's going to
Speaker 2: be trading for a guy that is depending on restricted
Speaker 2: free agent here, like a ton I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I think they would be hoping. It's almost like, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, the Raptors at the trading Kyle Lowry because
Speaker 2: he's going to be walking, so they're like, well, let's
Speaker 2: get precious for him, you know, Let's get a young
Speaker 2: sort of guy that will take a f and maybe
Speaker 2: has turned into a building block. And I think that's
Speaker 2: what the Blazers would be hoping for in a return,
Speaker 2: and maybe it is one of these young Hornets players.
Speaker 1: Well, I think the Hornets should give up one of
Speaker 1: those young players for the right piece coming back, and
Speaker 1: that again comes down to someone who you know is
Speaker 1: going to be there for way longer than Nurkic. Nukich
Speaker 1: is only twenty seven, by the way, it feels like
Speaker 1: he's older than that. I mean, so if you look
Speaker 1: at his age, you think that guy could have a long,
Speaker 1: still prosperous career. But he has had some big injuries
Speaker 1: too throughout his career, so you wonder about his durability
Speaker 1: in that sense. But the Hornets can't afford to try
Speaker 1: to hoard these young guys right now. They desperately need
Speaker 1: some interior help, so they should be prepared to at
Speaker 1: least give up one of them. Exactly who that is,
Speaker 1: I think Booknight's probably the one who's going to get
Speaker 1: the most interest from other teams. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you can get rid of plumbing, you may as well.
Speaker 1: Anyone will take him.
Speaker 5: But they need to.
Speaker 1: Well they've got you know, they've got tradable assets there, Charlotte,
Speaker 1: so they have to give up something. Just not sure Nurkic,
Speaker 1: given his injury history and his contract status, they would
Speaker 1: be prepared to do it for that short term window.
Speaker 2: Here, all right, our final guy here from these Blazers
Speaker 2: were trying to move, Sir Robert Covington, thirty one years old.
Speaker 2: He makes thirteen million dollars also depending on restrict free agent.
Speaker 2: He's a talented help defender. I think we would agree
Speaker 2: career forty percent three point shooter, so he ken knocked
Speaker 2: down the three ball. He was traded a year ago
Speaker 2: to Portland for Trevor Ariza, a twenty twenty first round
Speaker 2: pick and a twenty twenty one protected first round pick. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that would be the return that the
Speaker 2: Blazers beginning in some sort of potential deal. But here's
Speaker 2: a popular one, Trey, you want him on the Bulls
Speaker 2: because Dave w says, Covington to the Bulls for Kobe White,
Speaker 2: and then maybe like a Tony Brown junior and a
Speaker 2: draft pick, like some sort of compensation.
Speaker 3: I don't mind it Robert Covington, an Illinois boy, doing
Speaker 3: a lot less, I imagine for the Bulls than he
Speaker 3: would be for the Blazers. And Covington, like you said, Skeets,
Speaker 3: is a great help defender, not a great on ball defender,
Speaker 3: which is good because the Bulls have some solid on
Speaker 3: ball defenders now with Lonzo and Caruso. I've been eyeing Covington,
Speaker 3: I've been eyeing Nurkic. I've even been eyeing Cody Zeller
Speaker 3: off the bench for the Bulls because they can use
Speaker 3: another backup big and another just a little bit more
Speaker 3: size there. And as we've seen through the beginning of
Speaker 3: the season, the Bulls are at least a good team.
Speaker 3: The league is maybe a little unsettled right now, so
Speaker 3: I don't mind throwing a young player like Kobe White
Speaker 3: into a trade to.
Speaker 2: Really try and go for a bit of an extended
Speaker 2: playoff run. Here, Jas, what do you think? Does that
Speaker 2: make some sense? Is that enough for the Blazers? So
Speaker 2: would they be happy with that, especially him coming up
Speaker 2: to a free agency If you moved Covington for Kobe
Speaker 2: White and Tony Brown junior and again like some sort
Speaker 2: of pick compensation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think they could even get that much
Speaker 4: for Robert Covington and the way he's playing right now.
Speaker 4: He's been benched in Portland, which is kind of bonkers.
Speaker 4: For the thirtieth best defensive team in the league, they're
Speaker 4: dead last. They put Robert Covington on the bench. I
Speaker 4: don't think they get a solid young guy in Kobe
Speaker 4: White and another guy. I don't see that happening. But yeah,
Speaker 4: the Bulls would love him, for sure. The Bulls would
Speaker 4: be very excited for him. But yeah, it's what the
Speaker 4: Blazers are looking to do. Is it time to implode
Speaker 4: and just go real young and try and try and
Speaker 4: get as much value and much return as possible for
Speaker 4: this roster that has peaked at one Western Conference final?
Speaker 4: Is it time? Is it the best move to get
Speaker 4: as much value as possible for even Damian Lillard? I
Speaker 4: think that's you know, it's a question, John Hollinger asked
Speaker 4: on The Athletic It's a reasonable question.
Speaker 5: What do you do?
Speaker 4: What do you do with this this roster? So, yeah,
Speaker 4: take a chance on Kobe White, who the Bulls were
Speaker 4: really high on and now he's become kind of an
Speaker 4: afterthought in that rotation.
Speaker 2: Again, that's like just goes back to the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Like if you're going to trade these three guys that
Speaker 2: we're talking about here, the Covington, Nurk, and McCollum for
Speaker 2: just trade assets, I mean, excuse me, like draft picks
Speaker 2: and young prospects, then you're literally just like for sure
Speaker 2: going to be like you are like otherwise you have
Speaker 2: to like try and get some talent back, and it's
Speaker 2: not easy, as I think we're proving here with some
Speaker 2: of these potential trade deals. How many thoughts on the
Speaker 2: Balls acquiring Comington though, and maybe a Koby wait being
Speaker 2: the keep has come back, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the Bulls would do that. A veteran good defender,
Speaker 1: he's got that seven to two wing span. Robert coming
Speaker 1: to remember, he was kind of the small ball guy
Speaker 1: in Houston. I think he was kind of playing center
Speaker 1: for a while because when they went totally small there
Speaker 1: with Darryl Mourray him and him at PJ. I think
Speaker 1: he is a good player who can hit that three
Speaker 1: at his best, and he's a reliable defender, and I
Speaker 1: think Kobe White, you know, you would give up that
Speaker 1: piece to get that veteran on your team because the
Speaker 1: Bulls are certainly closer to win now more than perhaps
Speaker 1: they thought they were going to be coming into the season,
Speaker 1: so it's worth it. But man, the fact that Neil
Speaker 1: Usha gave up two first round picks for Robert Covington,
Speaker 1: he should have been fired for that alone. Really, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's a sort of move that the general managers. Mate,
Speaker 1: that's just hampering the franchise. I think so, uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd like him on the Bulls.
Speaker 6: I think that's good.
Speaker 1: But if you're the Blazers, yeah, for a guy who's
Speaker 1: not part of their rotation now anyway, sure, why not
Speaker 1: take another young guy?
Speaker 2: I had some funny ones that people suggested as well.
Speaker 2: I want to share with you guys.
Speaker 5: I love this one.
Speaker 2: This was from Disney Alex Max on Twitter. Why don't
Speaker 2: the Pacers and the Blazers just basically swap all their
Speaker 2: guys and it works in the trade machine. Okay, Sibonis,
Speaker 2: Miles Turner, and Kris Lavert going to Portland for McCollum,
Speaker 2: Covington and Nurkic. Here you go Tass's R three for
Speaker 2: your three. There we go, no problem.
Speaker 4: The numbers work. I'm peering into this YouTube screenshot the numbers.
Speaker 4: That's Sabonis, Miles, Turner and Carolslavert very close in salaries. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think that nineteen eight, eighteen and seventeen to five Carislvert.
Speaker 4: I take our guys who are underperforming a little bit,
Speaker 4: carosel Vert, specifically for your guys who are underperforming with
Speaker 4: the Blazers. And that's the thing, as I mentioned, like McCallum,
Speaker 4: Mcovington and Nurkic, it's the beauty is in the eye
Speaker 4: of the beholder. Because McCollum, yeah, underperforming, but he's a
Speaker 4: virtual all star player. Nurkic it potted over thirty last night.
Speaker 4: You know, you see one of those games against you
Speaker 4: you think this guy, this guy can be a really
Speaker 4: good big but he will do that all the time.
Speaker 4: And who is that other Oh Covington, same thing. Yeah
Speaker 4: he could, he could play the five, just like Lisa
Speaker 4: a modern day wing. He could do it. But yeah,
Speaker 4: it's the Blazers. They're all underperforming. But yeah, trade them,
Speaker 4: they'll probably be better in a different environment.
Speaker 5: Why not?
Speaker 2: And then I love this one lately. This is a
Speaker 2: four team deal and it's just one player moving from
Speaker 2: each team. This one from biased CAZ fan. I'll show
Speaker 2: it to you here as well. Fun breakdown. McCollum to
Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks, Porzingis to the Kings, Dearren Fox to
Speaker 2: the Sixers, and Ben Simmons to the Blazers. What do
Speaker 2: you think, Lee, I? I wrote back to him. I said,
Speaker 2: if you could get Kyrie Irving involved somehow, this would
Speaker 2: be the you know, this would be Chef's kiss hanging
Speaker 2: in the left. But yeah, what do you think of
Speaker 2: it's fortune?
Speaker 6: So I like it for the Sixers.
Speaker 4: I like it for the.
Speaker 2: Mavericks. Okay, you must think for the Blazers. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: let's do it. Let's put the trig.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just trying to sort of, you know,
Speaker 1: put it all together quickly in my head here. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying that we would I mean, imagine the NBA
Speaker 1: on Twitter that day.
Speaker 6: That would be.
Speaker 1: Awesome, everyone just with their with their fire takes. So
Speaker 1: I would love to see the chaos of this trade happen.
Speaker 1: And if it can work, the GM should just go.
Speaker 1: Who gives a ship?
Speaker 6: Why not. Let's just try and see what happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how you keep a job. The who gives
Speaker 3: a ship is like the biggest jump in wins here.
Speaker 3: Plus if he goes to the poring.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it's very weird.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So there it is, Yes Simmons to the Blazers, McCollum
Speaker 2: to the Mavericks, Porzingis to the Kings, and dearon Fox
Speaker 2: to the seventy six ers.
Speaker 4: Biased fans not not far off, you know his his
Speaker 4: Twitter handles biased cash fan. But he threw together a
Speaker 4: pretty even trade.
Speaker 5: That's not bad.
Speaker 4: I mean the team that lead didn't you know, wasn't
Speaker 4: sold on was the Kings there because they're getting Porzingis
Speaker 4: in exchange for Darren Fox. But Darren Fox underperforming Porzingis
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 5: He's hot.
Speaker 4: Yeah again?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, he had a right run, a great run
Speaker 1: before that, one of maybe the best run of his career.
Speaker 1: But he's injured again. And uh, you know, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: we've got a fan out there who's been emailing this,
Speaker 1: you know, taking his victory lat where's all that talk
Speaker 1: about posingis now? I just want to say, where's the emails?
Speaker 1: Now that he's injured again?
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the posingis can be a great player,
Speaker 1: and we've seen flashes of it, but the two knocks
Speaker 1: on him are consistency and injury. So you know, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna come at us or me when he's playing,
Speaker 1: well fine, fine, fine, but you can't also then just
Speaker 1: not email when he's injured.
Speaker 6: Again, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's like a true Knicks fan who has gone through
Speaker 2: and Chris stabs. All right, so let's hear your trades
Speaker 2: for any of these Blazers. You can leave them in
Speaker 2: the stream team, you can leave them below this video,
Speaker 2: you can tweet them in at no dunk sync. It's
Speaker 2: not easy, I think, is the point here with a
Speaker 2: lot of these guys, to again get talent back that
Speaker 2: would in theory, get the Blazers back into the mix
Speaker 2: in the Western Conference, to keep Lillard happy and to
Speaker 2: go from there. It's just it's just not It's becomes
Speaker 2: easier just to be like, okay, everything must go, including
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard, and really really lean into a long term rebuild,
Speaker 2: and that might be what they have to do. I
Speaker 2: you know, I know, Trey, you sort of think that
Speaker 2: is the only really way at this point, because you
Speaker 2: can't convince yourself otherwise that a shake up trade will
Speaker 2: really do all that much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the question, And I guess the question for
Speaker 3: the Blazers is do you think that trading for Ben
Speaker 3: Simmons is a shake up trade or is that a
Speaker 3: serious improvement trade? Because you know, Ben Simmons has been
Speaker 3: a good player during the regular season throughout his career.
Speaker 3: He makes his team better, he plays defense, he gets
Speaker 3: easy shots for his teammates. In the playoffs, you got
Speaker 3: to deal with him not taking shots. Yeah, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: I would rather try that sort of middle path, where
Speaker 3: like Simmons bringing in Simmons from a column, you at
Speaker 3: least try it one more time with Damian Lillard before
Speaker 3: you know, he ends up wanting to go somewhere else,
Speaker 3: like it happened for Kevin Garnett, Right, They tried everything
Speaker 3: around Kevin Garnett and Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Eventually the writing was on the wall and they had
Speaker 2: to start over. Yeah. I think again, I'm still a betman.
Speaker 2: I think that's exactly what they end up doing, a
Speaker 2: McCollum move to like try and salvage their season. To
Speaker 2: try and keep Lillard happy and then go from there.
Speaker 2: I'm not convinced that whatever that move is Ben Simmons,
Speaker 2: somebody from the Pelicans, somebody from the Wizards, you know whatever.
Speaker 2: Maybe a potential Calves trade. I just don't think it's
Speaker 2: going to like catapult them up here. I really don't.
Speaker 2: They're in such a funk. But maybe they do, and
Speaker 2: maybe it will work. The shake up trade happens or works,
Speaker 2: I should say every once in a while tasks, but
Speaker 2: I think it's few and far between.
Speaker 4: For being honest, Yeah, what is the Blazer front office thinking? Yeah?
Speaker 4: And will the man there Crone and Joe Cronin, who's
Speaker 4: worked up his way through the Blazers hierarchy, and he's
Speaker 4: been there forever. He's a salary cap expert. Now he's
Speaker 4: got the rains. Does he have the rains to blow
Speaker 4: it up? Or does he have the rains to make
Speaker 4: one single trade? Which, yeah, that would make sense logically
Speaker 4: keep Dame happy. But I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Man, Maybe you have to maybe you just have to
Speaker 4: go for it. And just one one quick note before
Speaker 4: we move on, because he said, you're bet Manski speaking
Speaker 4: of betting a little bit later, we'll get to our
Speaker 4: pick and payoff. I didn't pick the Nets Mavericks game
Speaker 4: because christophs Porzingis was listed as questionable and I thought
Speaker 4: everyone's taken the Nets. But he's been upgraded to probable.
Speaker 4: So we're getting an email Lee, Chris is gonna be
Speaker 4: back on the floor tonight. It sure, it looks like
Speaker 4: so maybe it's not injured at all. It's a knee injury,
Speaker 4: so of course everyone worried seeing him in a very
Speaker 4: sharp suit with no tie on the sideline. But he
Speaker 4: might be back playing basketball tonight.
Speaker 2: We will see. All right, We're gonna take our final
Speaker 2: break when we come back. We got Lee's tweet of
Speaker 2: the night and picking results and our new pick for tonight.
Speaker 2: Let's get to tweet of the night.
Speaker 5: Tweet of the night.
Speaker 1: Woww Yes, I am going off the board for this
Speaker 1: one and going back to the homeland of my birth.
Speaker 6: In fact, because this comes in.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? I'm going off the board
Speaker 2: and going Yes, I'm going after the board one.
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 1: Usually you set me up, Usually say Lily, what you
Speaker 1: got I was waiting for it? Didn't have it anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm going to the KFC Big Bash League for this
Speaker 1: outstanding feat of athleticism by Jake Fraser McGuirk.
Speaker 5: Way, oh, I think he might have got enough.
Speaker 4: Unbelievable Frazer mcgod for the one handy screamer of the
Speaker 4: boundary of marble.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is from the Big Bash League in Australia,
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty competition.
Speaker 6: Now check it out. I've got some replays here of
Speaker 6: this cash.
Speaker 1: Just look at the athleticism of this because remember no
Speaker 1: gloves by the fieldsman in cricket.
Speaker 2: Look at this.
Speaker 1: Watch what he does here to catch this one. It
Speaker 1: gets up boom nice. That is incredible here it is
Speaker 1: again a.
Speaker 2: That that's a lot of a lot of fans in
Speaker 2: attendance for this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm not sure if that's coronavirus fro late
Speaker 6: at all.
Speaker 2: Eight people saw that catch?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just hey, you know what tweet of the week?
Speaker 1: Twitter the night you can go wherever you want. I thought, great,
Speaker 1: I'll chose some cricket highlights, great stuff.
Speaker 2: What's his name, James mc squirt, Jamie mcquar, what's going
Speaker 2: on there? What's his name? I'm asking?
Speaker 6: His name is Jake Fraser mcgook. Yeah, you seem a
Speaker 6: little bit. I don't know, it's saucy. Today's you know
Speaker 6: something in the air.
Speaker 2: Fantastic NBA podcast audio Watching Cricket highlight.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 2: What to catch, incredible stuff, incredible stuff.
Speaker 4: It reminds me. I played one year of mushball. It's
Speaker 4: softball with no gloves, That's what That catch reminds me
Speaker 4: of a lot of broken fingers, a lot of broken
Speaker 4: fingers in marshball, a lot of broken fingers and cricket lee.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, in fact you can't really see it, but
Speaker 1: I got a I've got a couple of broken fingers
Speaker 1: from cricket because, yeah, the ball's hard, especially when it
Speaker 1: gets whacked like that. I mean, you practice those sorts
Speaker 1: of things, so you learn how to sort of catch
Speaker 1: on that. But still, you know, you just catch it
Speaker 1: at the wrong angle or whatever, and it can, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it can do some damage. The catcher is called a
Speaker 1: wicket keeper in cricket. Now his fingers at the end
Speaker 1: of his career are like Alvin Gentry, Sean Marion. I
Speaker 1: think it's like catches in Yeah. I think like in baseball,
Speaker 1: aren't that you know, like Jje Posada, for example. I
Speaker 1: think all his or one one side of his hand.
Speaker 2: For example.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but they but they're only actually catches with one hand,
Speaker 6: doesn't he really?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably cricket you've got the two hands there, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: their fingers are all a bit a bit wonky.
Speaker 6: At the end of their careers.
Speaker 4: They learned to create all that as a kid, right,
Speaker 4: a cricket cricket cradler. Right, well, correct that thing you
Speaker 4: collect it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want it because the balls going so fast.
Speaker 1: You don't just want to like go forward, You want
Speaker 1: to like catch it like that. Take the take the
Speaker 1: speed off it as you can.
Speaker 2: I got I got a question for really we got
Speaker 2: Noil buffs. That's a survivor podcast. You got Neil Breaks.
Speaker 2: That's an F one podcast. Where's the cricket podcast?
Speaker 6: You want a cricket podcast?
Speaker 2: No, I don't want people.
Speaker 5: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: Hey? I had Mark war on this year.
Speaker 4: It was good.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: You want to talk catchers.
Speaker 1: You can check out Mark Wall's Highlight Real's Mix take
Speaker 1: of catches for the next.
Speaker 2: Tweet of the week. When you're going off the.
Speaker 6: Greatest greatest lips catcher of all time, Mark war So
Speaker 6: there you can there you go. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Why not. Yeah, we've got a comment saying Cricket podcast,
Speaker 4: Yes if you're listening, and we're just saying, yeah.
Speaker 2: I like this leasing but is the sm give one
Speaker 2: more time?
Speaker 6: Hore passala?
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I can go to sleep.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But funnily enough, he used to bat without gloves, which
Speaker 1: is kind of ironic, isn't it, because most most batters
Speaker 1: wear gloves, don't they they? So yeah, ok, yeah I
Speaker 1: remember he was. He was great and no gloves, but
Speaker 1: he was the catcher.
Speaker 6: Interesting.
Speaker 2: You definitely talked to him in a piece down at
Speaker 2: the start.
Speaker 6: I did. They're part of that big piece I did
Speaker 6: with on Joe Girardi spoke.
Speaker 2: With also catcher.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't actually notice his fingers, but.
Speaker 6: He's the Phillies bench boss.
Speaker 3: These days, there is there a single notable America cricket player.
Speaker 6: Not that I'm aware of.
Speaker 1: Although Sammy Sosa grew up playing cricket. Apparently cricket was
Speaker 1: his first game because he grew.
Speaker 4: Up in Dear Was he Dominican?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, so apparently he was a good cricketer
Speaker 1: as a kid. But Danny A, No, he never played
Speaker 1: that right now, he played baseball didn't he Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but the twenty twenty stuff is what I'm going to
Speaker 1: take you guys to one days where I have a
Speaker 1: fun time.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I like this from rich He says, what
Speaker 2: would the name of the Cricket podcast be?
Speaker 6: You say that, rich You say that, But there's no
Speaker 6: doubt in my mind. Guys like Richard be like, I've
Speaker 6: got a hate listen to this at least once or twice.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: They have to.
Speaker 1: They have to, just just in case they get intrigued
Speaker 1: by and they're like, Okay, there is something to this
Speaker 1: after all.
Speaker 2: Okay, great to me of the night, love it. Jamie mcdert.
Speaker 2: Jamie Frazer mcdert. Picking results from last day. Okay, see
Speaker 2: it was in Detroit. Distans were fav like four and
Speaker 2: a half. This brought to you by bet mgm man.
Speaker 2: Pistons were looking good, looking, like they would take care
Speaker 2: of business, no problemly got this and then okay see
Speaker 2: in the second half, storm Back got the victory straight
Speaker 2: up money line hit and Trey Kirby he calls it.
Speaker 2: This guy's perfect. In the month of December four and
Speaker 2: oh here in our pick them battle task down to
Speaker 2: two and two and me and Lee bringing up the
Speaker 2: rear one and three lately. Uh, no surprise for me,
Speaker 2: but chocking for you. Anyway, tonight's game task where we
Speaker 2: go and there's only three games on tonight?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the TNT double headler is Nets, Mavericks, Celtics, Lakers.
Speaker 4: Usually I'm definitely looking at the big games, but don't
Speaker 4: see we don't pick the league pass games. I'm going
Speaker 4: to a small market team like the New York Knicks
Speaker 4: playing the San Antonio Spurs. I thought that game would
Speaker 4: be a little bit more difficult to call. I thought
Speaker 4: we'd all generally take the Lakers or the Nets, considering
Speaker 4: Porzingis was out, so I went Knicks Spurs. And I'm
Speaker 4: the only one who thinks that the Knicks can bounce
Speaker 4: back against the Spurs team that was on a bit
Speaker 4: of a winning streak until they lost last night or
Speaker 4: a four gamer. But they lost last night and the Knicks, yes,
Speaker 4: some some questions as to what's going on with that rotation.
Speaker 5: R J.
Speaker 4: Barrett not looking great, but you know, they seem healthier,
Speaker 4: so I think they can bounce back. But why do
Speaker 4: you guys think that the Spurs will take care of
Speaker 4: business the team? Let's be honest. We rarely, rarely, rarely
Speaker 4: talk about on this show. Who's who's got a hot spurs? Take?
Speaker 4: Right now?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you my reasoning for taking the spurs.
Speaker 2: I have an app on my phone. It's called Flip
Speaker 2: a Coin. I fired it up this morning. I hit
Speaker 2: this little button on it, and the coin flipped, and
Speaker 2: I well, the home team will if if heads comes up,
Speaker 2: that's the home team. If tails comes up, that's the
Speaker 2: road team. And heads came up, so the Spurs are
Speaker 2: gonna cover.
Speaker 4: I did think that you were using some method of
Speaker 4: either bit. Why do you say that, Well, because I
Speaker 4: put in my pick and you immediately put in your pick,
Speaker 4: and so a lot of people have been saying to you, Hey,
Speaker 4: you've been losing a lot of pickums. Just go with
Speaker 4: the oppositey.
Speaker 2: You know, it drives me insane.
Speaker 5: No, I've done that.
Speaker 2: I've done that one hundred times. I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 2: can't pick one to save my life, so I'll go
Speaker 2: the opposite and then I just get it wrong. It
Speaker 2: doesn't work. So now I'm leaving it completely up to chance.
Speaker 5: It's a great app to have, it really is.
Speaker 4: When we because I linger, I like to linger doing
Speaker 4: a lot of things, and sometimes it's good just to
Speaker 4: have something just to shut my brain off and say,
Speaker 4: I'm going to make a decision using the old coin app.
Speaker 2: Yeah, flip a coin.
Speaker 4: This is my coin app is called flip a coin.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, there's ads all over it and pop
Speaker 2: up this morning. I guess I gotta buy the premium
Speaker 2: version of flipper coil.
Speaker 3: I got.
Speaker 5: The coin there.
Speaker 6: Why don't you just flip a coin in the old
Speaker 6: fashioned way.
Speaker 2: Nobody has coins anymore. You got coins corner?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I got a man's coin right here?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 5: Yeah, what is that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? It's Peter Manzanelli. He's a big crypto influencer. He
Speaker 3: should check out some of his stuff. The problem, though,
Speaker 3: is it's the same thing on both sides. Oh that's yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I went with essays because I knew we were
Speaker 3: going to be talking about Sammy Sosa today.
Speaker 2: I was just feeling the vibes.
Speaker 4: It's non fungible. I guess if it's the same on both.
Speaker 2: Sides, what do you got?
Speaker 6: I got a US a US one dollar coin rare.
Speaker 1: I got a couple of quarters here, and I've got
Speaker 1: even fifty euro since there you go and I got
Speaker 1: a Canadian five cents. Hey, you go the beaver, the
Speaker 1: Canadian beava. Well, love some Canadian beava five cents.
Speaker 2: A crap, the homeland of your birth.
Speaker 4: Justin you.
Speaker 2: Could you hurry up and get that classic factory and order. Man,
Speaker 2: Just all get back together, guys, call it there. Email
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Speaker 7: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,
Speaker 7: Love you guys awesome.
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, and remember, just like the end
Speaker 4: of the show. Sometimes I kind of you kind of
Speaker 4: hangs on a little bit, kind of lingers a little bit.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, that's me making decisions a lot of the time.
Speaker 4: That's when my wife will say, do you.
Speaker 5: Have to do?
Speaker 4: You have to do?
Speaker 2: You have to do?
Speaker 4: You have to let it linger?
Speaker 2: You always put it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, yeah, I do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you do that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It loves the liquor. It lingers lyrics.
Speaker 4: It's one of those mental mashups, you know. I just
Speaker 4: just create new words for you.
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, don't go anywhere gd I'll flip
Speaker 2: the coin and if it comes up heads, we gotta
Speaker 2: just ramble for another minute or two, okay. And if
Speaker 2: it comes up tails, oh, then I'll say embraces there.
Speaker 2: Here we go, tap to flip. Oh you hear that, girl.
Speaker 2: I didn't know how that little uh tails Embrace the day. People,
Speaker 2: you could stay every day.
Speaker 4: And that you happy every minute.
Speaker 3: It's been so long that you're the one I've waiting for.
Speaker 4: It's happened already. It's gonna be grippy.