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Speaker 1: What are your plans for the rest of the year,

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Speaker 1: eat Brandon desserts and just get on fat and sassy.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, sweerl and welcome to the Nodongs podcast on

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Speaker 2: the Athletic Network. It's beautiful network. It's Tuesday, December seventh.

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Speaker 3: I'm j E.

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Speaker 2: Skeets alongside me as always. That's task melus.

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Speaker 4: Hey fellas well, that's up tasty.

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Speaker 2: You got our top shot hot boy Trey Kirby. Hey, hey,

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Speaker 2: the international man of mystery taking it to the Max

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Speaker 2: Leellis friend lady certainly not least making the magic happen.

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Speaker 2: Super producer JD. Hello, there is he here. We are

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Speaker 2: shout out to the stream team. Joining us live right

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Speaker 2: now on YouTube, Subscribe, like, comment, share, quick heads up.

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Speaker 2: Later today right here on this very feed. On this

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Speaker 2: YouTube feed, we will have a new No Breaks, which

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Speaker 2: is our F one podcast with TK and Grating Gordian.

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Speaker 2: That one goes live at two pm Eastern if you

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Speaker 2: want to join the boys in the paddock otherwise we'll

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Speaker 2: flip that into a podcast as soon as humanly possible

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Speaker 2: two pm Eastern. If you're an F one fan or

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Speaker 2: if you're just sort of new to the sport, like

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of us are with the drive

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Speaker 2: to survive on Netflix. You guys do a great job.

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Speaker 2: I gotta say that, especially like greating. Gordian is so good,

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Speaker 2: Like you got questions for him and he can like

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Speaker 2: really tell you because he's been a longtime fan of

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Speaker 2: Like what the hell's going on?

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Speaker 3: Right, TK, exactly right. We usually say this about Survivor.

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Speaker 3: Now it's a great time to get in for half one.

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Speaker 3: We got only one race you gotta care about. And

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Speaker 3: like you're saying, skeets, Graydon actually knows what he's talking about.

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Speaker 2: So anytime I have a dumb question.

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Speaker 3: When you were on, you were asking him dumb questions,

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Speaker 3: He's got a smart answer for it.

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Speaker 2: It's perfect. He's really really good at this stuff. All right,

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Speaker 2: we got a fun podcast here today. We're talking more

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Speaker 2: trades later on in the show. I'm gonna hit you

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Speaker 2: guys with some traine for the Blazers to make get

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Speaker 2: your opinions on them, you know, moving everybody basically accept

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Speaker 2: Dabian Lillard if that's the first step that the Blazers

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Speaker 2: ultimately try and decide to do. So, I'll throw some

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Speaker 2: at you at you guys, and you guys, can you know,

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Speaker 2: thumbs up or thumbs down them, or tweak them a bit,

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Speaker 2: whatever you want. But let's start with the games, because

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Speaker 2: there was a lot of games on last night. We'll

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Speaker 2: start with Demart de Rosen having to enter COVID nineteen

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Speaker 2: health and safety protocols soon before the Bulls game. But

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Speaker 2: that's okay. In the end, they go on to get

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Speaker 2: the victory against the Nuggets, who are very shorthanded as well.

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Speaker 2: Zach Lavie scored thirty two TK to get the Chicago win.

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Speaker 2: But unfortunate news with DeRozan, of course, right on the

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Speaker 2: heels of being named Eastern Conference Player of the Week. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: It's been a blessed start for the Bulls, despite the

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Speaker 3: like you're saying, but they're seventeen and eight right now,

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Speaker 3: second in the East, undefeated against the first place team.

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Speaker 3: They had that great West Coast road trip where they

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Speaker 3: I've actually found a couple of things really challenging with

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Speaker 3: this team. Number One, I like to wear Bulls gear

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Speaker 3: on the show the day after a big win, and

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Speaker 3: it's getting hard to keep up with this laundry. As

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Speaker 3: and number two, it can be hard to find the

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Speaker 3: words to express just how back the Chicago Bulls are, because,

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Speaker 3: like you're saying, Skeets, DeRozan was a scratch about two

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Speaker 3: hours before tip off, right after he won Eastern Conference

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Speaker 3: Player of the Week. Some of y'all might have started thinking,

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Speaker 3: No DeRozan, no Kobe White, no Javonte Green. They're all

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Speaker 3: but two all NBA MVP candidates. Last night, it was

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Speaker 3: Zach Levine thirty two points, a season high, eight assists,

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Speaker 3: and honestly dominated in the third quarter. Had twelve points,

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Speaker 2: Played a career high forty.

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Speaker 3: One minutes and fifty something seconds, finished with eleven points,

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Speaker 3: Even Matt Thomas hit a three last night. The Bulls

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Speaker 3: could have turtled this one away instead. One of the

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Speaker 3: best wins of the season. Incredible stuff. I saw people

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Speaker 2: Yeah, U tast We didn't have you on yesterday's show,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're definitely part of that tier. If they've got

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Speaker 4: He's got an undershirt on self proclaimed dirt bag move

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Speaker 4: Now that's a double bulls. You got a bowls on top.

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Speaker 2: You're calling it a dirt bag move. I thought it

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Speaker 4: I love it. Same same deal, Chuck Swarsky. They're dancing

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Speaker 4: It stinks for Demarto Rosen having to go into save

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Speaker 4: but it's cool to see last year Zach Lavine again

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I can only focus on one player at a time.

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Speaker 4: I don't see how you don't include them.

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Speaker 2: Back to Trey wearing a Bulls T shirt under his

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Speaker 2: in the stream. Team says it's like when you cut

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Speaker 2: I always do love when you find a secret pepper

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Speaker 2: inside of pepper. And that's Tray right now. I'll lead

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Speaker 2: you have anything to add about the balls are back

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Speaker 2: and all that stuff. And why don't you ever see

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Speaker 2: Homer on TK? He would never fucking start, But I.

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Speaker 1: Was talking about I don't you know, I don't want

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Speaker 6: Tray is so happy right now.

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Speaker 1: It has been a while since the bulls have been back,

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Speaker 1: and it's fun to see. It's like also one of

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Speaker 1: I thought was just incredible. Trait obviously touched on him

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Speaker 6: Way that he did.

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Speaker 1: Because this guy I believe earned his spot there primarily

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Speaker 2: He's just as good, right, Trey, Like what he can

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Speaker 3: And then he's he's so good at then turning defense

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Speaker 3: of that is Lonzo doing defense to offense. Another cool

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like John Schuman's wet dream session. Oh

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Speaker 2: all right? Our next game here, Joel Embiid a monster.

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Speaker 2: This one got me hard. Forty three points, seventy six

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Speaker 4: Yeah, came down to the wire and the Hornets broadcasters

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Speaker 4: That is where Joel Embiid made his money last year.

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Speaker 4: They just were able to find him with you know

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Speaker 4: That's why he was so good. They're unstoppable, and that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what a monster line. The forty three points, fifteen boards,

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Speaker 1: Him, no, and it certainly helps when they done don't

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Speaker 1: between these two teams. But the crowd last night seemed

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Speaker 1: really into it as well. Charlotte's not one of those

431
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Speaker 1: arenas that you looked at where the crowd's going crazy,

432
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Speaker 1: but they were last night because it was such an

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Speaker 1: entertaining game. So really good win for the Sixers to

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Speaker 1: pull that out. Good performance by the Hornets all things considered.

435
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Speaker 1: But yeah, Eric Collins and del Curry must listen to

436
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Speaker 1: those guys. They're always so entertaining.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, Collins was going nuts on a couple uh

438
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Speaker 2: dunks last night gee saw and then book note huge

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Speaker 2: put back dunk in the fourth quarter where Collins was

440
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Speaker 2: losing his mind. Yeah, I mean, if the Hornets are playing,

441
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Speaker 2: I'm always listening to the Hornets broadcast. I mean, it's

442
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Speaker 2: it's just too it's just too much fun. It makes

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Speaker 2: the game so much more enjoyable. And the Hornets play

444
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Speaker 2: a bunch of these insane games too. No one plays deep,

445
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Speaker 2: they don't play defense. Yeah, that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: I think they've given up like one hundred and thirty

447
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Speaker 3: points or thereabouts to almost every opponent this year.

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Speaker 2: The JT.

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Speaker 3: Thor dunk was hilarious. Of course, Eric Collins hits us

450
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Speaker 3: with he threw a lightning bowl. That's expected, right, the

451
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Speaker 3: guy's last name is Thor. My favorite line he had

452
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Speaker 3: on it, though, was I think he just cleared his

453
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Speaker 3: sinuses too? What's literally?

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Speaker 2: What does that mean?

455
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Speaker 3: The only the only bigger question I had was afterwards.

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Speaker 3: According to the ap doc, Rivers called this game for

457
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Speaker 3: Joel Embiid a feed the pig game. YE don't like

458
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Speaker 3: that at all, very much like bore on the floor,

459
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Speaker 3: very disgusting. But I like to see the deeper post

460
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Speaker 3: ups from Embiid. Like he does have a nice midrange jumper.

461
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Speaker 3: I feel like he can get a little bit too

462
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Speaker 3: patrick ewing at times where he would rather shoot the

463
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Speaker 3: midranger than get that boost inside. But only five misses

464
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Speaker 3: on the night he got started inside and then worked

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Speaker 3: his way out to the mid range game. He's taken

466
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Speaker 3: double digit pre throw attempts in four or five games

467
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Speaker 3: since coming back from COVID, so you can tell he's

468
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Speaker 3: rounding in this shape and really mashing guys down low.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Tobias Harris was also good I think for the Sixers

471
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Speaker 2: last night. I think a twenty to ten game, twenty

472
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Speaker 2: one and eleven something like that, contributing there. He had

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Speaker 2: been in and oute of this lineup too, So Sixers,

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Speaker 2: I think I heard maybe there on the Daily Ding

475
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Speaker 2: this morning. First time the Sixers have won back to

476
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Speaker 2: back games in like a month. Yeah, so you know,

477
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Speaker 2: obviously they want to start rising back up the Eastern

478
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Speaker 2: Conference standings as they get these players back, and we

479
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Speaker 2: wait and see whether or not they of course make

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Speaker 2: a move. All right, let's keep it going here. The

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Speaker 2: Hawks hit twenty five to three pointers twenty five to

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Speaker 2: beat the Timberwolves one twenty one, one ten. Get startedly.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 1: The Hawks needed a convincing victory because they lost the

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Speaker 1: night before at home to the Hornets and then on

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Speaker 1: Friday night at home to the Sixers. Now, okay, that's fine.

487
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Speaker 1: The Sixers are a team that they can afford a

488
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Speaker 1: lost to and then they came out last night and

489
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Speaker 1: just pounded Minnesota from deep twenty five threes, as you mentioned,

490
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Speaker 1: only forty nine attempts, and every single player except for

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Speaker 1: Clint Capella hit a three for the Hawks last night.

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Speaker 1: Timothy Lua wu At Cabiri went seven to fourteen in

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Speaker 1: the Star.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, John Collins three Italian ones, Yeah yeah, No Frenchies,

495
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Speaker 3: Trey hit for Danilla.

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Speaker 1: Gallinari off the bench had four, Kevin Huerta had two,

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Speaker 1: Gorgy Jiang even hit three last night. So honestly, the

498
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Speaker 1: Timberwolves didn't play terrible. They didn't defend the three point

499
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Speaker 1: line well, but they were just chasing the Hawks all night,

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Speaker 1: and the Hawks just didn't cool off. And so you know,

501
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Speaker 1: this is this is a real modern day game the

502
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Speaker 1: way it's played, where you just came down and was

503
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Speaker 1: like everyone spreads the floor out and if everyone gets hot,

504
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Speaker 1: becomes contagious. We know that sometimes teams can go just

505
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Speaker 1: as cold from outside as the Hawks got hot last night,

506
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Speaker 1: and the Timberleves just didn't really have an answer. They

507
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Speaker 1: didn't have D'Angelo Russell last night. Now I'm not sure

508
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Speaker 1: that helps them defensively, but offensively they could have used

509
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Speaker 1: him out there to at least try to keep up

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Speaker 1: with the Hawks, but they just weren't able to timbles.

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Speaker 1: Another one of those little runs they go on where

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Speaker 1: it's like are they okay or are they not very good?

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Speaker 6: Last night was more in the column of like they

514
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Speaker 6: just they just.

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Speaker 1: Can't seem to ever solidify a position where you think, Okay,

516
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Speaker 1: maybe this team is good. Edwards and cat sure, fine,

517
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Speaker 1: but they were just down last night and just never

518
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Speaker 1: really got into the game because they couldn't stop the

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Speaker 1: Hawks hitting threes. I mean, like I say, when everyone

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Speaker 1: off the bench is just coming out there firing away

521
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Speaker 1: like that, it's pretty hard to stop. And Chris finch Finchy,

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Speaker 1: he talked about their defensive effort, and it's like, Yep,

523
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Speaker 1: you can talk about it all you want, but if

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Speaker 1: a team's lighting you up for four straight quarters, then

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Speaker 1: it's really on the players, I think.

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Speaker 2: Chah So, I know you were locked in a little

527
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Speaker 2: bit on this Hikeswolves game, so he tweeted about it

528
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Speaker 2: last night. I think to add to Lely's breakdown there

529
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Speaker 2: from a very solid Hawks win there on a back

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Speaker 2: to back situation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, franchise record twenty five threes because timoth A Lulu

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Speaker 4: Cabrero was not part of the game plan for the

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Speaker 4: Minnesota Timberwolves. They just left him open.

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Speaker 5: Understandable.

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Speaker 4: He went seven to fourteen from three bang bang bang bang.

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Speaker 4: That was huge, and Danilo Gallinari looked like it was

537
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Speaker 4: ten years ago. He looks spry off the bench. He

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Speaker 4: looked like a totally different guy. He looked like he

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Speaker 4: was having some Italian wine. Now, Lee, are you saying

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Speaker 4: there was only Italian wines on the because you missed

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Speaker 4: his section?

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Speaker 5: I told I told you too, I told you right then.

543
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Speaker 4: But anyways, it doesn't matter. The wine was fine, no

544
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Speaker 4: matter what JD says. It was fine.

545
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Speaker 5: I didn't say it was bad. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: No, yeah, oh, I thought you said it was pissy.

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Speaker 4: I thought you word pissy. Oh what was the word

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Speaker 4: you used?

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Speaker 7: Delicious?

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Speaker 5: I don't know what.

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Speaker 7: I don't remember saying anything bad about the winy order.

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Speaker 2: Everybody relaxed. He didn't he didn't mind the wine that

553
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Speaker 2: Lee picked at Dark Christmas Dinner on Friday night.

554
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Speaker 7: People were upsett me because I said Charraz sucks. That's it.

555
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, people.

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Speaker 7: Were, which it does. I stand by that it's horrible.

557
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Speaker 7: You know it's a grape. Don't come at me because

558
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Speaker 7: of a single grape. There's a whole litany of delicious

559
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Speaker 7: wines out there. I just don't like chiraz anyways, carry on,

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Speaker 7: There are a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of grapes. There are a lot of grapes out there.

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Speaker 4: When you think about it, there's hundreds millions of grapes.

563
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Speaker 4: You don't think of that. There's a lot of grapes anyway. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Danilo Gallinari was squishing some grapes between his feet. He

565
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Speaker 4: looked great out there. Twenty five threes. Yeah, they were

566
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Speaker 4: just moving the ball so nicely. The Hawks, I think,

567
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Speaker 4: were a little pissed off after their last their last

568
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Speaker 4: loss on the weekend, and yeah, they look like they

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Speaker 4: turned it around.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: Didn't have D'Angelo Russell, and I think that was a

572
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Speaker 4: big part of why they looked the way they looked

573
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Speaker 4: in Karl Anthony Town's coming back from from that injury

574
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Speaker 4: in his first game. But yeah, the Hawks weren't gonna

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Speaker 4: lose this game. The way they were moving it around.

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Speaker 4: Twenty five doesn't seem like it should be a franchise

577
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Speaker 4: high for that team, the way they let it fly,

578
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Speaker 4: But yeah, that's it. Is a lot of threes, even

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Speaker 4: in today's game.

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Speaker 2: All right, our next game, just really quickly here Jannis

581
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Speaker 2: scored twenty seven points on his twenty seventh birthday as

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Speaker 2: the Bucks beat the Cavs one twelve, one oh four.

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Speaker 2: It gets even better than that because Bleacher Report pointing

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Speaker 2: out that he also played in twenty seven minutes. Lately

585
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Speaker 2: you like the numbers? Are you numerologist? What does it mean?

586
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Speaker 3: What does it mean?

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Speaker 2: I really just wanted to ask you, Lee, what you

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Speaker 2: did on your twenty seventh birthday and if you totally

589
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Speaker 2: you could show us.

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Speaker 6: Yes, give me a minute and I'll get one, because

591
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Speaker 6: it was the.

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Speaker 2: Just tell me about it.

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Speaker 1: It was the Champions League Final in two thousand and three,

594
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Speaker 1: three at Old Trafford in Manchester. It was Icee Milan

595
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Speaker 1: versus Juventus. I was there for that game was on

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Speaker 1: my birthday. So your twenty seventh birthday, yes, eight, two

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Speaker 1: thousand and three.

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Speaker 2: Honestly amaze me. I was getting ready for the show

599
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Speaker 2: this morning, showering, thinking, oh, I'll ask Lee what he

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Speaker 2: did on his twenty seventh birthday. I doubt he'll even know,

601
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Speaker 2: because I was like, I don't know what he did

602
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Speaker 2: on my twenty seventh. No clue, but of course you know,

603
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Speaker 2: you know exactly where you were, and you have a

604
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Speaker 2: photo that you're searching for right now.

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Speaker 6: Yes I am.

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Speaker 2: Anyway from this game, another feisty performance from the Cavs.

607
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: Tasks like they're they're in a lot of these games.

608
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Speaker 2: They were. They had a chance to take the lead

609
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Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. Obviously come up short, but that's okay.

610
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Speaker 2: The fight is there. But the Yeah, the Bucks are

611
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Speaker 2: just too good when their three guys are playing. They're

612
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Speaker 2: still undefeated if anybody's keeping track when Jannis Middleton and

613
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Speaker 2: Drew Holiday are in the lineup. So that's good.

614
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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Joannis hit all three of his threes last night. Also

616
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Speaker 2: nice twelve boards. You know, he was returning from this

617
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Speaker 2: sore right calf. The Bucks had split those two games

618
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Speaker 2: that he missed, so they're not too upset with that.

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Speaker 2: But also an in state insane stat in the AP report,

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Speaker 2: the Bucks are forty three and four forty three and

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Speaker 2: four against the Central Division since Budenholzer took over as

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Speaker 2: coach in twenty eighteen. Holy crap, that is I know

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Speaker 2: it's I know the Bulls have had some rough years,

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Speaker 2: right right, TK, Yeah, there's a lot of pittass in

625
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Speaker 2: the central Pistons and who's the final one?

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Speaker 4: I'm for you have Bulls, Pistons, Boots and the Pacers.

627
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Speaker 2: That's that's wild though only four losses. I mean some

628
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Speaker 2: of those teams are bad, you guys are right, but

629
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Speaker 2: that's still this is the NBA's that's a crazy stat.

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Speaker 2: So they have taken care of business against the central division.

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Speaker 4: I'm surely what's that n that that site that you

632
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Speaker 4: referenced there with the with the trade the other day

633
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Speaker 4: than the.

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Speaker 2: NAMBA Analysis Network.

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Speaker 4: I think Analysis Network that's the one. I'm sure they've

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Speaker 4: got a report on it. They love doing division reports. Yes,

637
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Speaker 4: they go division by division hard on the uh so yeah, Yeahannis, Yeah,

638
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Speaker 4: he just he pulled it out the end. I think

639
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 4: it is easy to forget as he said that they

640
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 4: haven't been healthy. I know we talk about Brook Lopez

641
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Speaker 4: a lot, but everybody has been in and out of

642
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Speaker 4: the lineup. So unbeaten with their big three and uh

643
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Speaker 4: feeling good about themselves is they're you know, part of

644
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Speaker 4: the nets Bulls, a little triumvirate at the top. Thing

645
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Speaker 4: they feel great and Yannie, yeah it was it was

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Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter where he just kind of like

647
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 4: finished the game. And I had picked the Calves to

648
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 4: cover that six and a half point spread, and then

649
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 4: Yanni's just splashed a three in the last minute just

650
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 4: to ice it. But the Calves are always going to

651
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 4: be there for sure. They're always going to fight, and

652
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 4: uh yeah, they're not going to cover if Yanbo was

653
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 4: hitting three pointers. Yeah he looks. He looks great a

654
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: couple of games off, feeling good on his twenty seventh birthday.

655
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 5: Happy Birthday, Yanni.

656
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: Uh well did you find it?

657
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 6: Lee?

658
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I have to kick come on, I just

659
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: want to see this photo. Now, that's definitely going to

660
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: be underwhelming. It's going to be you standing outside a building.

661
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: Let's see it. Here we go, Happy twenty seventh birthday.

662
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: Oh it's standing inside a building. Okay, this's actually blue shirt.

663
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 5: Oh why are you wearing a bat blue shirt?

664
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 3: Oh?

665
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 5: Well that was in that bag? What you got in

666
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 5: that bag?

667
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

668
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: You know, I lived in Canada for a year before that,

669
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Speaker 1: so I was still in my Canadian you know, sort

670
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: of phase there.

671
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 5: But yeah, but you got that.

672
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: Shirt free in a case of beer. That's you didn't

673
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 2: buy it?

674
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 6: Probably yeah, yeah, probably most likely yeah, yeah, so yeah.

675
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: Hey, happy belated birthday too, Thanks man, Thanks.

676
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 6: I appreciate it for sure.

677
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Speaker 2: You're twenty seventh birthday twenty all right, great one the

678
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: other games from last night, I'll just throw them all

679
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: at your task, go wherever you want. Grizzlies won their

680
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: fifth straight, led by Desmond Bean and his big arms

681
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: and then Dylan Brooks and his crazy face. The thunder

682
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: rallied to beat the Pistons. They ended their eight game skid.

683
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: Ok see Detroit will actually touch on that later, of course,

684
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: with the pick them Pacers pulled away early. They held

685
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: off the Wizards for the one sixteen one to ten win.

686
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: Chris Paul did his thing twenty one and ten Suns

687
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: beat the Spurs one O eight one oh four. Korean

688
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: Wiggins led the Warriors to a blowout victory over the Magic,

689
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: and Paul George scored twenty one as the Clippers took

690
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: care of the shorthanded Blazers one two ninety Any of

691
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: those games you wanted to touch on?

692
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 4: Well, the thunder jumping back from a seventy three point loss.

693
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 4: That's pretty good, they tweeted after their seventy three point loss.

694
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 4: A photo of a couple of their guys with the

695
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 4: caption regroup and back at it Monday. Everybody laughed at

696
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 4: them regrouping back at it Monday.

697
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 6: Ha ha.

698
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 4: And they came back at one on Monday. They followed

699
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 4: through on the Twit good for them, and they were down.

700
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Speaker 6: And then that was down eighteen points at this yeah

701
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 6: as well. So what does that say about the Pistons?

702
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: I mean, well, according to you, they should be investigated

703
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 2: for tanking and uh Silver should step in and stripping

704
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: out in the front office.

705
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Speaker 6: Of the role.

706
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 5: That.

707
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a that was a very impressive bounce

708
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: back there from the night. Now, they obviously had Giddy

709
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: and gilges Alexander back as well, which helped. But the Pistons,

710
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean, come on losing having an eighteen point game

711
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: and then a lead and then losing.

712
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 6: By did they lose? What double digits? Was it in

713
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 6: the end?

714
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Speaker 1: I know it was out there to double digit I'm

715
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: not sure what the final was. But what about the

716
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: Memphis Grizzlies also, let's give them some love. Five consecutive

717
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: games now where they have not trailed at all.

718
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 6: That is unbelievable. So now the heat, obviosly they're down

719
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Speaker 6: a few players. Jimmy Butler was.

720
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Speaker 1: Back there last night. He played, I think, yeah, he

721
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: picked up another injury. But even still, for the Grizzlies

722
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: to be doing all this still without Jar Morant is

723
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: quite an incredible achievement by them. So their defense is unbelievable.

724
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: Right over those last five games, the defensive rating is

725
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Speaker 1: ninety unbelievable.

726
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 6: Stuff unbelievable.

727
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: Some people are saying they should trade Drumrean, trading to

728
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: the Pistons.

729
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this is.

730
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 2: Tk any of those games I threw at the end

731
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: that you want to do touch on quickly.

732
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: Steph Curry made seven threes, So now he is fifteen

733
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 3: threes away from passing Ray Allen, or for tying Ray

734
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: Allen for most all time, sixteen away from passing him

735
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: for most in the regular season. He's not ruling it

736
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Speaker 3: out for the next game they play against the Blazers,

737
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: which is a perfect perfect opponent to try and go

738
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Speaker 3: for a sixteen to three game. As he mentioned, he

739
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: knows that what that would do for Klay Thompson's current

740
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: record for most threes in a game. So, yeah, seven

741
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: threes last night, but it's really just more exciting to

742
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: see what Steph Curry does in his next game, because

743
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: it kind of feels like he's going to at least

744
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 3: try to go for the.

745
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Speaker 5: All time three point record.

746
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Speaker 2: Yeah, sign me up, I'll watch. Is it is it

747
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: in Potland or it's in Golden State?

748
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 4: Okay?

749
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's at home. Like Trey said, he needs

750
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: sixteen to surpass Rayaleen for regular season three pointers made.

751
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: If it doesn't happen then, which I mean that would

752
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: be a record sixteen threes, then they're on a five

753
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: road trips, so it would be happening probably on the

754
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: road lately. Uh, Philadelphia, Indiana, New York, Madison Square, Guarden there,

755
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 2: Boston and Toronto.

756
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: He then he's gotta if he doesn't do it against

757
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: the Blazes, he's got to do it in the Garden,

758
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: doesn't he?

759
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: Really?

760
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 6: I mean that's the next biggest.

761
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, but you'd have to miss a lot

762
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 2: of threes on purpose to get to Game four.

763
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's got to.

764
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: Be the Blazers.

765
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: Would I would also accept against the Philadelphia seventy six

766
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: ers with his brother there? Oh yeah, well maybe you

767
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 3: can rest against the Pacers on that Monday if you're

768
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 3: not there, do it in the garden right, just basically

769
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: anything except for the Pacers.

770
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think he'll do You think he'll legit,

771
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: give it a go on Wednesday night?

772
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 1: Yeah?

773
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 6: I think so. Why not?

774
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 4: It'd be a great way to do it, he's saying.

775
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 4: He said after the game, I know exactly where I'm at.

776
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 4: He's definitely aware of what the hell's happening. This is

777
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 4: one that he knows. Yeah, the best shooting in the world.

778
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 4: He's going for it. Man. That play at the end

779
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 4: of the first quarter was so amazing where he's in

780
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 4: his backcourt and Gary Harris poked it from him and

781
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 4: scored seven seconds left in the courter, and then he

782
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 4: just goes up, shoots a half court shot and buries

783
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 4: it in Gary Harris's eye. That was amazing.

784
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: I swear to god, he's done this like it feels

785
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: like three straight games where he's hit like a half

786
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: court shot to end a quarter or end a half.

787
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: I mean, at least it's two. Maybe I'm stretching it

788
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 2: to three, but it feels like every game. Rightly, there's

789
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: a Steph Curry highlight where he hits something at the

790
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: end of a quarter or a half from forty five

791
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: feet forty.

792
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: Feet, and that's why guys should try to do it

793
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: rather than save their field goal percentage, because it's way

794
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: better when guys knock them in. But everyone tries. Everyone

795
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: just releases it just after the buzzer. I think Worldwide

796
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: calls it the field Goal Percentage Savings Club.

797
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: His name is world or Worldwide, you know I'm talking

798
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: about that.

799
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: He changes his name after someone has a big knoight.

800
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's changed it from anyone from

801
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: last night, like to one bead or someone you.

802
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 6: Know, But that's why I just got to go with

803
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 6: the Worldwide had.

804
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: He had a funny video up the other day after

805
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: the Knicks lost to the Nuggets.

806
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys saw it, but one

807
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 6: of those ones a minute long and you're watching it

808
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 6: and he doesn't say anything.

809
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: Oh I watched that because you keep white.

810
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: It's a great video because you're like, you're waiting, waiting,

811
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: is it And then you're like, have I done something wrong?

812
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 6: Is it's frozen or whatever? And then you just realize

813
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 6: that's that says so much without saying anything.

814
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: First name, world, last name, wob. Why just what we're

815
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: talking about?

816
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 4: That's not about about a guy who's I'm not sure

817
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 4: whose name if his first name is George or Paul, Paul, George,

818
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 4: George Paul. Anyway, fifty percent in October from the floor,

819
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 4: forty one percent in November now down to twenty nine

820
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 4: percent in December. From an MVP candidate does it every year?

821
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: That's shocking, every shocking that it happened again because he

822
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 4: was an MVP candidate to start. Now he's he's fallen off.

823
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: Although yeah, they squeaked one out there against the Blazer

824
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 4: because they always squeaking out. But uh, yeah, the Blazer's

825
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 4: falling off.

826
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 5: We'll get to them, won't We hold on the Thunder

827
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 5: the Thunder, I know, we laugh about.

828
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 4: The Thunder and ha ha ha. Yeah, they've got more

829
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 4: wins than the Pistons. But the guy who turned around

830
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 4: that game was Kenrich Williams. I thought he was just

831
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 4: like the scrappy guy off the bench. Now if they

832
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 4: trade him, that's the reason to shut that team down.

833
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 4: Shut down, shut down, because he's he is a guy

834
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 4: who's like he's a winner. He just he comes in

835
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 4: and just turns the game around. And to me, yeah,

836
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 4: Shay was back. Obviously, Giddy was back. They look good,

837
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 4: and how can they be shut down if they have

838
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 4: more wins than the Detroit Pistons. It's because of how

839
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 4: they handle their players. And to me, last year they

840
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 4: weren't reprimanded for the Horford and the Shay sitting down.

841
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to January and February if they trade

842
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 4: Kenrich Williams to a team that needs a guy that

843
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 4: you know has a little spark plug and they're just well,

844
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 4: what do they do it? It's gonna happen. Anyways, It's

845
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 4: gonna happen.

846
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: It'll happen between the six point possession and all is

847
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 3: Kenrich Williams talk. This might be John Schumann's favorite episode

848
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: of B it.

849
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: Is he loves Oh yeah, crazy haircut. All right, let's

850
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: take our first break. When we come back, we will

851
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: talk some non Dmian Millar trades for the Blazers. Lee

852
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: what you got? I'm almost afraid to ask JD. But

853
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 2: how is the classic factory coming along?

854
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 7: It's come along. We're making progress, so I mean, I'm

855
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 7: not I'm not exaggerating when I say that everything doesn't

856
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 7: work when I first plug it in.

857
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 2: Actually really shocking to me. You think this stuff at

858
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 2: this point twenty twenty one. You know, you're plugging this

859
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: stuff and it just and it just goes. Yeah.

860
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 7: Now, now when you reach sort of like we're we're

861
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 7: leveling up, so we're in sort of the pro land assertive.

862
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 7: We're that like the prosumer land, right, So it's like

863
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 7: there's very little instructions that come with this stuff. And

864
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 7: then you got to call the you gotta call and

865
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Speaker 7: you get attitude man like oh god, these gear head man,

866
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 7: they're like.

867
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 5: Well, of course it doesn't. That's a fifty six K light.

868
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 7: Of course it doesn't.

869
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 5: You can't warm that up. You need gel man, man.

870
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 7: I just I just want to make a podcast, bro.

871
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 7: All right, progress though, we're getting there, we're getting. Short

872
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 7: answer is we're getting.

873
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 2: That, all right, baby steps guys to the Classic Factory

874
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: coming together. Okay, so let's get into some Blazers trade talk.

875
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: I can't tell if people like this stuff or hate it,

876
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: but who cares.

877
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 7: We're doing it.

878
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 2: You know, we talked a lot about on yesterday show

879
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: at least about the direction the Blazer should go. Should

880
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: it be like blow it up and that means trade

881
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard because he would want out of there. Or

882
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 2: is it like try and keep at happy and shake

883
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: it up by moving some of these other potential guys

884
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: on their roster. I'm a column a nurkic, a covey team.

885
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: So that's what we're gonna do here. I tweeted it

886
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: out yesterday. I said, hey, MBA Sickles, let's see your

887
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: best non Damian Lillard trades for the Trailblazers. And I said,

888
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: you know, those three guys make the most sense. What

889
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: you got. People love trades, holy crapp lely. A lot

890
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: of responses, a lot of like decent ones, a lot

891
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: of convoluted ones. I will say, where you get into

892
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: like the three team deals, the four team deals. It's

893
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: a little it's a little much to try and talk

894
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: about on a podcast at times. But I did find

895
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: some that I thought are like, Okay, let's throw that

896
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: at the guys. Let's throw it at the stream team

897
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: and everybody listening and see what they think. So we'll

898
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: go through them sort of player by player here. We're

899
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: starting with CJ McCollum, and I'm just gonna put aside

900
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 2: the Sixers move, which I think is the most obvious.

901
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: I think a lot of us agree is probably the

902
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 2: most obvious in terms of trying to get Ben Simmons.

903
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: Maybe it includes McCollum and then other pieces and picks

904
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: to make it happen. But we've talked enough about that,

905
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: so some other ideas to set up McCollum. I want

906
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: everybody to know, thirty year old shooting guard. He's not

907
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: as young as you sort of think. I always think

908
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: of McCollum as like a twenty five to twenty six

909
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: year old, but he's not. He's in his thirties. He

910
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: probably would have made his first All Star Game last

911
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: year if he didn't get hurt. He was definitely in

912
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,959
Speaker 2: the running, but he's never made that This year, Shade

913
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: under twenty one points per game, forty two percent shooting

914
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: from the floor. Those are those are really bad numbers

915
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: for CJ. McCollum since he's become a starter. I think

916
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: a lot of it has to do with all of

917
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: this trade talk and his name being included in a

918
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: lot of these deals. I know he's talked to to

919
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: UH Jason Quick about it. On the athletic he's also

920
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: having a baby. I think some off court distractions are

921
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: in play here, But he looks a little disinterested and

922
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: he doesn't look like the CJ. McCollum from years prior.

923
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: He makes nearly thirty one million dollars for this year,

924
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: and that only goes up for the final two years

925
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: thirty three, next year thirty six. After that task, it

926
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: does not become easy to trade a CJ. McCollum because

927
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: it makes a lot of money. So of course salary

928
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 2: has to be coming back. But I want to get

929
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: your take on this one task. There was two similar

930
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: trades thrown at me with McCollum going to the Cavaliers, yes,

931
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Cavaliers. So the first one was from Taylor.

932
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: It was McCollum and let's say, Nesir Little to the

933
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 2: Calves for Kevin Love and call and Sexton. Colin Sexton

934
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 2: is the key piece in both of these. And the

935
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: other one I saw or heard from Sam Vessini and

936
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: Dannie LaRue was McCollum and nobody else really, just McCollum

937
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: to the Cavs for Ricky Rubio, Colin Sexton and Jeddi Osman.

938
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: I just want to ask you, McCollum to the Cavaliers

939
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: with something, a big contract of course, going back to

940
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: make it happen, make any sense at all to you.

941
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: Tasks from either side or no, thanks, I've got gum.

942
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 4: I am absolutely a Cleveland Cavalier's head. This is what

943
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 4: I do in my spare time. I follow the Cleveland

944
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 4: Cavaliers basketball club. I do not think they would make

945
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 4: such a move. I just understand that he would be

946
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: an upgrade. He is better than what he is This year,

947
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 4: he was kind of on his way to being an

948
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 4: All Star before getting hurt. Last year shooting eleven three

949
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 4: is a game looking phenomenal twenty six points per game.

950
00:42:54,800 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 4: That was his best year I am. I just don't

951
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 4: think he's on the timeline of the Cleveland Cavaliers. As

952
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 4: you said, thirties. It's not his, it's not his, it's

953
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 4: not his place there in Cleveland. They have such a

954
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 4: good thing going on right now. Kobe Altman has made

955
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 4: some incredible moves to sneak in and grab Jared Allen

956
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: in the four way James Harden deal, and then to

957
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 4: draft Evan Mobley and Ricky Rubio. Yeah, he's not long

958
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 4: for Cleveland most likely he's in his thirties too. But

959
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 4: an upgrade there, it just doesn't make a ton of

960
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 4: sense to me. I would rather stay young and you

961
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 4: described Eric was said there and he's snuck in there

962
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 4: that Jason Quick on the Athletic has talked to c

963
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 4: J McCollum recently. The start of that article this morning,

964
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 4: it's not usually. It's not a usual start to the

965
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: article to an article. I was reading Jason Quick's article

966
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 4: about c J. McCollums, so this I want to read it.

967
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 4: I want to read Jason Quick's start here.

968
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 5: This is how it starts.

969
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 4: I was driving home Monday after the trail Blazer's latest loss,

970
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 4: deep in thought about a ten minute conversation I just

971
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 4: had with CJ. McCollum in the back hallway of the

972
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 4: Motive Center when my phone pained it was McCollum. As

973
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 4: I looked down at this text message, I was taken

974
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 4: aback enough so that I pulled over and read it again.

975
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 4: This is the quote for mccollumn. Oregon is my home

976
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 4: always will be. I got married here, my son will

977
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 4: be born here. We bought three hundred and eighteen acres here,

978
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 4: that's a brig and started planting our vineyard here. This

979
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 4: city and organization have been very good to me and

980
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 4: my family were forever grateful and Jason quick writes. As

981
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 4: my car idled on the side of the road, my

982
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 4: mind raced that I miss something. Did McCollum get traded.

983
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 4: I did a quick search. Nothing.

984
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 5: Damn.

985
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 4: I texted back. You made it sound like a goodbye.

986
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 4: It's not a goodbye, he replied. I'm still here. My

987
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 4: friend mccollm wants to be there forever. He ain't going anywhere.

988
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 4: It's like him saying, I like it here. I don't

989
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 4: want to go anywhere. But they have to make a

990
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 4: move obviously, as we've talked about forever and ever and ever,

991
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 4: and he could be in on that. But I don't

992
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 4: see the Calves thing. I'm out. I'm out on the

993
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 4: Cavs thing.

994
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: Okay, Trey, what do you think of a McCollum to

995
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: a Cavaliers type of deal, which again has to include

996
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: basically a love or a Rubio type contract, and then

997
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: Colin Sexton, I guess, being the key piece going back

998
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 2: to the Blazers. I don't mind it. From the Cavs perspective. CJ.

999
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 3: McCollum is an Ohio guy. Maybe a homecoming does him well.

1000
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 3: There would be a spot for him. I think as

1001
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 3: the two guard it would be not dissimilar to playing

1002
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 3: alongside Damian Lillard playing alongside Darius Garland in Cleveland, and

1003
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 3: they would be turning Rubio and expiring contract and the

1004
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: potential and the restricted free agency of Colin Sexton, a

1005
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: player that doesn't seem to be in their plans, turning

1006
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 3: him into a guy and McCollum who's got a couple

1007
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 3: more years on his contract. I think that's pretty good

1008
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: for the Calves, to be quite honest, and I think

1009
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 3: it definitely makes them better, especially considering they're not getting

1010
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: anything from Sexton for the rest of this year.

1011
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: Lee final thoughts on this one, I actually diminded as well.

1012
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: And now it may only get the Calves a few

1013
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: more wins and so to get them into the playoffs.

1014
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: But he's a steady veteran in a apart from last season,

1015
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: he's pretty reliable and durable c J. McCollum, and so

1016
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: he can give them that veteran presence of another guy

1017
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: who can score sextant. I think they probably are moving

1018
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: on from him, and yeah, Rubio is not really a

1019
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: part of their future either. So if you can get

1020
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: c jn it's only thirty, it can be looked at

1021
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: as like well that's old, or you can say, well

1022
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: he's still got a good two or three years left

1023
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: to sort of help this team continues its ascension. So

1024
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 1: I don't mind it. I think there's something there the Cavs.

1025
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: I think clearly Garland, Jared Allen and Evan Mobley is

1026
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: their sort of core. But if you can get a

1027
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 1: good veteran who you know can get you a bucket

1028
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: on the side there, that's not a bad little return

1029
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: for a team that's kind of moving on from those

1030
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: other pieces anyway.

1031
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 2: Okay, the other one I had from Brad was McCollum

1032
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: to the Timberwolves from a league Beasley and Torrian Prince.

1033
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to wow anyone here on

1034
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: the call, but yeah, what do you think of that move?

1035
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: Let's say for the Blaezer, is that enough? I mean

1036
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: it works obviously in the train machine tree Beasley and

1037
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: Prince get some wing help there for McCollum and moving

1038
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: off of him. I think that would be if this

1039
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: is something like that were to go down, there would

1040
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: be other trades to be had. Of course, Yeah, you'd

1041
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: have to do.

1042
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 3: Some of their moves as well, because that's not enough.

1043
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 3: When Ben Simmons is potentially on the table. I would

1044
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: rather have the Rubio Sexton love package as well. So

1045
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 3: I don't know, two bench guys for your your second

1046
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: leading score.

1047
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense. Yeah, yeah, I mean it becomes

1048
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: difficult with this just path that the Blazers might try

1049
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: and take. Here, Lee this idea of like you'd be

1050
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: trading these guys McCollum, Nurkic Covington for in theory good

1051
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 2: players now, because you'd want to be appeasing Damian Lillard

1052
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: and saying, hey, we're still good, we can be good,

1053
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: We're gonna be a playoff team, We're gonna go even

1054
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: further than we've gone. That's not obviously easy to do.

1055
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: It's much It sort of becomes easier to trade guys

1056
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: for like future pieces for flyers on young guys for

1057
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: picks and stuff like that. But then if you do that,

1058
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: Lillard's gonna be like, what wtf, man, why are we

1059
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 2: doing that? And then and then suddenly you could see

1060
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: your off in the summer of him going well, I

1061
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 2: want out of here if that's the plan. So it

1062
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: becomes I think that's the dance here. That's difficult for

1063
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: Joe Krohnin or whoever is making.

1064
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it doesn't make sense to trade those guys

1065
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: unless you're going to get some other draft capital in return,

1066
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: and then say, Okay, we've got to make this trade

1067
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: work financially, but we're doing it mainly so that we

1068
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: can start the rebuild process. And if you're doing that,

1069
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: then clearly you need to also move on from Lillard.

1070
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no point in putting him in a

1071
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: rebuild situation right now. But yeah, on the surface, two

1072
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 1: bench kind of journeyman for a solid starter just doesn't

1073
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: That doesn't improve Portland at all. So I don't see

1074
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: why they would do that. But if the Wolves say, yeah,

1075
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: we really want that guy as a scorer, We'll give

1076
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: you these two guys and then we'll also give you

1077
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 1: a couple of draft picks, then at least the Blazers

1078
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 1: are like, well, that's something that we're building towards something,

1079
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: even if it's not this season.

1080
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's move to Nurkic. He's averaging thirteen and

1081
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: ten this year in about twenty five minutes per game,

1082
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 2: shooting fifty percent from the floor. He's in the final

1083
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: year of his deal twelve million dollars he makes. He's

1084
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: depending on restricted free agent. He's represented by Clutch Sports.

1085
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 2: Don't forget that, all right, very important now, Rich Paul

1086
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: wants to get these guys paid, So probably any deal.

1087
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: If Nurkic is going out, the Blazers are gonna need

1088
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: some front court reinforcements coming back, and they also are

1089
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: going to probably try and make their payroll cheaper. So

1090
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: there were a couple suggestions. The first one was from

1091
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: man U not Jenobili, another man who Nurkic Covington got

1092
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: thrown in this one. And then probably a young player.

1093
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: Let's say this here little though I know the Blazers

1094
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: are high on him, to the Pacers for Sabonis and

1095
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: Jeremy Lamb. So nurk Covington and again probably a young player.

1096
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: Let's say this here little for now to the Pacers,

1097
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 2: task for Sabonis and Jeremy Lamb. Sabonis, get another Sabonis

1098
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: in Portland. Is this a move they should be looking,

1099
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 2: uh to explore.

1100
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 4: I don't think so, because, yeah, the Blazers would get better,

1101
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 4: the Blazers would do it. I'm sorry the Blazers. Yes,

1102
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 4: of course, they're trading for a start they're trading up,

1103
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 4: but the Pacers would just be another lateral move. That's

1104
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 4: just five good guys becomes I don't know, five and

1105
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 4: a half good guys, and you're kind of trading down.

1106
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 4: You're trading at Sabonis's peak for Nurkic's non peak. They're

1107
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 4: not getting better, So I don't think so. I think

1108
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 4: along with McCollum, along with even Nurkic, I know he's

1109
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 4: not playing his best, I think we're kind of undervaluing

1110
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 4: the Blazers. I know, I am, I know. You know

1111
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 4: McCollum would would go make the Calves a lot better

1112
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 4: at the shooting guard position, especially on a really good

1113
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 4: defensive team when he's struggled on the defensive end. And

1114
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 4: I think we kind of undervalue Nurkic and stuff. But

1115
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 4: uh yeah, I think that's that's It doesn't make the

1116
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 4: Pacers better at all.

1117
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: Great, that's a great trade for the Blazers. So I'm

1118
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: with you on that. Yeah, And I don't think Indiana,

1119
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: you guys are seem to be agreeing leally anything to.

1120
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: Add, Oh yeah, I'll taikema have a nakish. But I

1121
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: just don't see why the Paces would do that. To

1122
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: give up, to give up Sabarnis to get nurkitchen return.

1123
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: They would want some sort of draft assets I think,

1124
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: and yeah, signaling that they are then moving in that

1125
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: direction and probably then that is a bit of a

1126
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: domino effect on trading turner and when becomes available Brogdon

1127
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: as well.

1128
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: Okay, this one Nurkics to the Hornets, that's been a

1129
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: popular one. They could use a big guy to try

1130
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: and Guardoel and Bead last night to put up a

1131
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 2: better effort, at least put a hand up. So why

1132
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 2: don't we just do a NRK for plumb Dog again,

1133
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: that's Sam Vassini Nurkics to the Hornets for Plumbley and

1134
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: then one of their young front court guys. Okay, so

1135
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 2: like a Jalen McDaniels, like a Nick Richards, like a

1136
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: kai Jon. So that that would be the deal to

1137
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 2: get Nirkish to Charlotte, and then the Blazers in return

1138
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 2: getting like a prospect type guy and then a plumb

1139
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 2: Dog who has played there before. And uh and while

1140
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: he's a plum dog, you might have an opinion on him,

1141
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 2: but what do you think trade? No way something like

1142
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 2: this happens.

1143
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 3: Well, I love the idea of finally uniting a plumb

1144
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: Lee and a Zeller there for the Trailblazers.

1145
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 2: That would be just incredible.

1146
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 3: But to me, Nurkic going to the Hornets makes sense,

1147
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 3: but then trading several big guys does not make sense.

1148
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 3: Like you said, they need help inside, Nurkic would help.

1149
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 3: I'm not the biggest Nurkic fan, but he's certainly an

1150
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: improvement over Nick Richards, who they've been playing. But if

1151
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 3: you're trading two of your three centers to bring back

1152
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: one center, you're still one center down, and that's clearly

1153
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 3: been the biggest weakness for the Hornets. So I would

1154
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 3: rather trade one of their random backcourt guys, like maybe Booknight.

1155
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 3: He just hasn't had a chance to really get on

1156
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 3: the court, and it doesn't seem like he's necessarily going

1157
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 3: to with the squad they've got put together right now.

1158
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 2: But I do like the idea of Nurkic on the Hornets.

1159
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 2: Tess can make can you come up with something you know?

1160
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: Would the Hornets explore this, like Trey saying one of

1161
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 2: their young guys and then whatever else to make the

1162
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 2: contracts work to get Nurkic in there, and it could

1163
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: be a rental. This is the weird thing with Nurkic.

1164
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like, you know, I don't know if

1165
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: you'd be agreeing to some sort of deal in the future. Again,

1166
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: you're going to be negotiating with Rich Paul and Clutch Sports,

1167
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 2: So maybe that concerns teams and like they're like, I

1168
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: don't want to be the one paying Nurkic, you know,

1169
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: fifteen million a year, No, thank you.

1170
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 4: But what do you think Nurkic is a Clutch Sports guy?

1171
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 5: I didn't know that.

1172
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 4: It didn't didn't seem like a fit to me. Nurkicen Clutch.

1173
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 4: That's a surprise. But yeah, the Hornets are long for

1174
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 4: a big guy, and yeah, they've been drafting athletic wing

1175
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 4: after athletic wing after athletic wing. It seems like there's

1176
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 4: a match to happen there and the Hornets, you go

1177
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 4: back a couple of years. They thought they had Markasol

1178
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 4: at the deadline before the Raptors got them. They are

1179
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 4: looking for an experience big and I'm not just thinking

1180
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 4: of white centers that would fit, but Nurkic would fit. Yeah,

1181
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 4: they wanted the soul. Now, Yeah, Nurkic would be nice,

1182
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 4: a nice player for them. And again, I know Nurkich

1183
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 4: has not lived up to the hype there in Portland

1184
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 4: at all.

1185
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 5: But ele Rental give it a shot.

1186
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 4: I mean the Hornets have They're just they're overflowing with

1187
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 4: all these these really athletic wings, So I could see

1188
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 4: something working there.

1189
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, Lee, I just think if the Blazers move

1190
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 2: off Nurkic, Blazers fans, maybe everybody would need to lower

1191
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: their expectations of what would be coming back in return,

1192
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 2: because you sort of think of Nurkic as a decent

1193
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 2: player when he when he is playing at his best,

1194
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: Blazers look like a really really good team over the

1195
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 2: last couple years, and then he has these weird funks

1196
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 2: where he's just like can't stay on the court because

1197
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 2: of foul trouble or you know, he's always like sort

1198
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: of injury prone a little bit too. And then he's

1199
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: like a big dip. But he's like, nobody's going to

1200
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 2: be trading for a guy that is depending on restricted

1201
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 2: free agent here, like a ton I don't think so.

1202
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: I think they would be hoping. It's almost like, uh,

1203
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 2: you know, the Raptors at the trading Kyle Lowry because

1204
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 2: he's going to be walking, so they're like, well, let's

1205
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 2: get precious for him, you know, Let's get a young

1206
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 2: sort of guy that will take a f and maybe

1207
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 2: has turned into a building block. And I think that's

1208
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: what the Blazers would be hoping for in a return,

1209
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: and maybe it is one of these young Hornets players.

1210
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: Well, I think the Hornets should give up one of

1211
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: those young players for the right piece coming back, and

1212
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: that again comes down to someone who you know is

1213
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: going to be there for way longer than Nurkic. Nukich

1214
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: is only twenty seven, by the way, it feels like

1215
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: he's older than that. I mean, so if you look

1216
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: at his age, you think that guy could have a long,

1217
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 1: still prosperous career. But he has had some big injuries

1218
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: too throughout his career, so you wonder about his durability

1219
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: in that sense. But the Hornets can't afford to try

1220
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: to hoard these young guys right now. They desperately need

1221
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: some interior help, so they should be prepared to at

1222
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: least give up one of them. Exactly who that is,

1223
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: I think Booknight's probably the one who's going to get

1224
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: the most interest from other teams. But yeah, I mean,

1225
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: if you can get rid of plumbing, you may as well.

1226
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: Anyone will take him.

1227
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 5: But they need to.

1228
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: Well they've got you know, they've got tradable assets there, Charlotte,

1229
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: so they have to give up something. Just not sure Nurkic,

1230
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: given his injury history and his contract status, they would

1231
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: be prepared to do it for that short term window.

1232
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 2: Here, all right, our final guy here from these Blazers

1233
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 2: were trying to move, Sir Robert Covington, thirty one years old.

1234
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 2: He makes thirteen million dollars also depending on restrict free agent.

1235
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 2: He's a talented help defender. I think we would agree

1236
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: career forty percent three point shooter, so he ken knocked

1237
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 2: down the three ball. He was traded a year ago

1238
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: to Portland for Trevor Ariza, a twenty twenty first round

1239
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: pick and a twenty twenty one protected first round pick. Yeah,

1240
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that would be the return that the

1241
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 2: Blazers beginning in some sort of potential deal. But here's

1242
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 2: a popular one, Trey, you want him on the Bulls

1243
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: because Dave w says, Covington to the Bulls for Kobe White,

1244
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 2: and then maybe like a Tony Brown junior and a

1245
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: draft pick, like some sort of compensation.

1246
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 3: I don't mind it Robert Covington, an Illinois boy, doing

1247
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 3: a lot less, I imagine for the Bulls than he

1248
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 3: would be for the Blazers. And Covington, like you said, Skeets,

1249
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 3: is a great help defender, not a great on ball defender,

1250
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 3: which is good because the Bulls have some solid on

1251
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 3: ball defenders now with Lonzo and Caruso. I've been eyeing Covington,

1252
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 3: I've been eyeing Nurkic. I've even been eyeing Cody Zeller

1253
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 3: off the bench for the Bulls because they can use

1254
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 3: another backup big and another just a little bit more

1255
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 3: size there. And as we've seen through the beginning of

1256
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: the season, the Bulls are at least a good team.

1257
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 3: The league is maybe a little unsettled right now, so

1258
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 3: I don't mind throwing a young player like Kobe White

1259
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 3: into a trade to.

1260
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 2: Really try and go for a bit of an extended

1261
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: playoff run. Here, Jas, what do you think? Does that

1262
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: make some sense? Is that enough for the Blazers? So

1263
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: would they be happy with that, especially him coming up

1264
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: to a free agency If you moved Covington for Kobe

1265
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 2: White and Tony Brown junior and again like some sort

1266
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 2: of pick compensation.

1267
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think they could even get that much

1268
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 4: for Robert Covington and the way he's playing right now.

1269
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 4: He's been benched in Portland, which is kind of bonkers.

1270
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 4: For the thirtieth best defensive team in the league, they're

1271
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 4: dead last. They put Robert Covington on the bench. I

1272
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 4: don't think they get a solid young guy in Kobe

1273
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 4: White and another guy. I don't see that happening. But yeah,

1274
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 4: the Bulls would love him, for sure. The Bulls would

1275
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 4: be very excited for him. But yeah, it's what the

1276
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 4: Blazers are looking to do. Is it time to implode

1277
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 4: and just go real young and try and try and

1278
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 4: get as much value and much return as possible for

1279
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 4: this roster that has peaked at one Western Conference final?

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Speaker 4: Is it time? Is it the best move to get

1281
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 4: as much value as possible for even Damian Lillard? I

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00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 4: think that's you know, it's a question, John Hollinger asked

1283
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: on The Athletic It's a reasonable question.

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00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 5: What do you do?

1285
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 4: What do you do with this this roster? So, yeah,

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00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 4: take a chance on Kobe White, who the Bulls were

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00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 4: really high on and now he's become kind of an

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00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 4: afterthought in that rotation.

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00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 2: Again, that's like just goes back to the whole thing.

1290
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 2: Like if you're going to trade these three guys that

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00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 2: we're talking about here, the Covington, Nurk, and McCollum for

1292
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: just trade assets, I mean, excuse me, like draft picks

1293
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:02,479
Speaker 2: and young prospects, then you're literally just like for sure

1294
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: going to be like you are like otherwise you have

1295
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 2: to like try and get some talent back, and it's

1296
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: not easy, as I think we're proving here with some

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Speaker 2: of these potential trade deals. How many thoughts on the

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00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: Balls acquiring Comington though, and maybe a Koby wait being

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00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 2: the keep has come back, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think the Bulls would do that. A veteran good defender,

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00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: he's got that seven to two wing span. Robert coming

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00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: to remember, he was kind of the small ball guy

1303
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: in Houston. I think he was kind of playing center

1304
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: for a while because when they went totally small there

1305
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: with Darryl Mourray him and him at PJ. I think

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00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: he is a good player who can hit that three

1307
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: at his best, and he's a reliable defender, and I

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00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: think Kobe White, you know, you would give up that

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00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: piece to get that veteran on your team because the

1310
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: Bulls are certainly closer to win now more than perhaps

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00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: they thought they were going to be coming into the season,

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00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: so it's worth it. But man, the fact that Neil

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00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: Usha gave up two first round picks for Robert Covington,

1314
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: he should have been fired for that alone. Really, I mean,

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00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 1: that's that's a sort of move that the general managers. Mate,

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01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: that's just hampering the franchise. I think so, uh yeah,

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01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: I'd like him on the Bulls.

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Speaker 6: I think that's good.

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01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: But if you're the Blazers, yeah, for a guy who's

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01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: not part of their rotation now anyway, sure, why not

1321
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: take another young guy?

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01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 2: I had some funny ones that people suggested as well.

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01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 2: I want to share with you guys.

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Speaker 5: I love this one.

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01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: This was from Disney Alex Max on Twitter. Why don't

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01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: the Pacers and the Blazers just basically swap all their

1327
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 2: guys and it works in the trade machine. Okay, Sibonis,

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01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 2: Miles Turner, and Kris Lavert going to Portland for McCollum,

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01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 2: Covington and Nurkic. Here you go Tass's R three for

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01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: your three. There we go, no problem.

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Speaker 4: The numbers work. I'm peering into this YouTube screenshot the numbers.

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01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 4: That's Sabonis, Miles, Turner and Carolslavert very close in salaries. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think that nineteen eight, eighteen and seventeen to five Carislvert.

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Speaker 4: I take our guys who are underperforming a little bit,

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Speaker 4: carosel Vert, specifically for your guys who are underperforming with

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Speaker 4: the Blazers. And that's the thing, as I mentioned, like McCallum,

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01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 4: Mcovington and Nurkic, it's the beauty is in the eye

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Speaker 4: of the beholder. Because McCollum, yeah, underperforming, but he's a

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01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 4: virtual all star player. Nurkic it potted over thirty last night.

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01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 4: You know, you see one of those games against you

1341
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 4: you think this guy, this guy can be a really

1342
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 4: good big but he will do that all the time.

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01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 4: And who is that other Oh Covington, same thing. Yeah

1344
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 4: he could, he could play the five, just like Lisa

1345
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 4: a modern day wing. He could do it. But yeah,

1346
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 4: it's the Blazers. They're all underperforming. But yeah, trade them,

1347
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 4: they'll probably be better in a different environment.

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01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 5: Why not?

1349
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 2: And then I love this one lately. This is a

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01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 2: four team deal and it's just one player moving from

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01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 2: each team. This one from biased CAZ fan. I'll show

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01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: it to you here as well. Fun breakdown. McCollum to

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01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks, Porzingis to the Kings, Dearren Fox to

1354
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: the Sixers, and Ben Simmons to the Blazers. What do

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01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: you think, Lee, I? I wrote back to him. I said,

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01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: if you could get Kyrie Irving involved somehow, this would

1357
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: be the you know, this would be Chef's kiss hanging

1358
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 2: in the left. But yeah, what do you think of

1359
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 2: it's fortune?

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01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 6: So I like it for the Sixers.

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Speaker 4: I like it for the.

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Speaker 2: Mavericks. Okay, you must think for the Blazers. Yeah yeah,

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01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 2: let's do it. Let's put the trig.

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01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah.

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01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just trying to sort of, you know,

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01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: put it all together quickly in my head here. But

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that we would I mean, imagine the NBA

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Speaker 1: on Twitter that day.

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Speaker 6: That would be.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, everyone just with their with their fire takes. So

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Speaker 1: I would love to see the chaos of this trade happen.

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Speaker 1: And if it can work, the GM should just go.

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01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: Who gives a ship?

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01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 6: Why not. Let's just try and see what happens.

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01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how you keep a job. The who gives

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01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 3: a ship is like the biggest jump in wins here.

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01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 3: Plus if he goes to the poring.

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01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it's very weird.

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01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: So there it is, Yes Simmons to the Blazers, McCollum

1381
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: to the Mavericks, Porzingis to the Kings, and dearon Fox

1382
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: to the seventy six ers.

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01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 4: Biased fans not not far off, you know his his

1384
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 4: Twitter handles biased cash fan. But he threw together a

1385
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 4: pretty even trade.

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01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 5: That's not bad.

1387
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 4: I mean the team that lead didn't you know, wasn't

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01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 4: sold on was the Kings there because they're getting Porzingis

1389
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 4: in exchange for Darren Fox. But Darren Fox underperforming Porzingis

1390
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 4: right now.

1391
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 5: He's hot.

1392
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 4: Yeah again?

1393
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, he had a right run, a great run

1394
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: before that, one of maybe the best run of his career.

1395
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: But he's injured again. And uh, you know, hey, listen,

1396
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: we've got a fan out there who's been emailing this,

1397
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, taking his victory lat where's all that talk

1398
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: about posingis now? I just want to say, where's the emails?

1399
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: Now that he's injured again?

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01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 2: That's all.

1401
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the posingis can be a great player,

1402
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: and we've seen flashes of it, but the two knocks

1403
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: on him are consistency and injury. So you know, if

1404
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna come at us or me when he's playing,

1405
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: well fine, fine, fine, but you can't also then just

1406
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: not email when he's injured.

1407
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:15,919
Speaker 6: Again, That's all I'm saying.

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01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,919
Speaker 2: That's like a true Knicks fan who has gone through

1409
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 2: and Chris stabs. All right, so let's hear your trades

1410
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: for any of these Blazers. You can leave them in

1411
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 2: the stream team, you can leave them below this video,

1412
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: you can tweet them in at no dunk sync. It's

1413
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 2: not easy, I think, is the point here with a

1414
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 2: lot of these guys, to again get talent back that

1415
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 2: would in theory, get the Blazers back into the mix

1416
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 2: in the Western Conference, to keep Lillard happy and to

1417
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: go from there. It's just it's just not It's becomes

1418
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 2: easier just to be like, okay, everything must go, including

1419
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard, and really really lean into a long term rebuild,

1420
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 2: and that might be what they have to do. I

1421
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 2: you know, I know, Trey, you sort of think that

1422
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 2: is the only really way at this point, because you

1423
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 2: can't convince yourself otherwise that a shake up trade will

1424
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: really do all that much.

1425
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the question, And I guess the question for

1426
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 3: the Blazers is do you think that trading for Ben

1427
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 3: Simmons is a shake up trade or is that a

1428
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 3: serious improvement trade? Because you know, Ben Simmons has been

1429
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 3: a good player during the regular season throughout his career.

1430
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 3: He makes his team better, he plays defense, he gets

1431
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 3: easy shots for his teammates. In the playoffs, you got

1432
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 3: to deal with him not taking shots. Yeah, what's gonna happen?

1433
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

1434
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 3: I would rather try that sort of middle path, where

1435
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 3: like Simmons bringing in Simmons from a column, you at

1436
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 3: least try it one more time with Damian Lillard before

1437
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 3: you know, he ends up wanting to go somewhere else,

1438
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 3: like it happened for Kevin Garnett, Right, They tried everything

1439
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 3: around Kevin Garnett and Minnesota.

1440
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 2: Eventually the writing was on the wall and they had

1441
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 2: to start over. Yeah. I think again, I'm still a betman.

1442
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 2: I think that's exactly what they end up doing, a

1443
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 2: McCollum move to like try and salvage their season. To

1444
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 2: try and keep Lillard happy and then go from there.

1445
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 2: I'm not convinced that whatever that move is Ben Simmons,

1446
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: somebody from the Pelicans, somebody from the Wizards, you know whatever.

1447
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 2: Maybe a potential Calves trade. I just don't think it's

1448
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 2: going to like catapult them up here. I really don't.

1449
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 2: They're in such a funk. But maybe they do, and

1450
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,439
Speaker 2: maybe it will work. The shake up trade happens or works,

1451
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 2: I should say every once in a while tasks, but

1452
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 2: I think it's few and far between.

1453
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 4: For being honest, Yeah, what is the Blazer front office thinking? Yeah?

1454
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 4: And will the man there Crone and Joe Cronin, who's

1455
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 4: worked up his way through the Blazers hierarchy, and he's

1456
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 4: been there forever. He's a salary cap expert. Now he's

1457
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 4: got the rains. Does he have the rains to blow

1458
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 4: it up? Or does he have the rains to make

1459
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 4: one single trade? Which, yeah, that would make sense logically

1460
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 4: keep Dame happy. But I don't know, I don't know.

1461
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1462
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 4: Man, Maybe you have to maybe you just have to

1463
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 4: go for it. And just one one quick note before

1464
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 4: we move on, because he said, you're bet Manski speaking

1465
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 4: of betting a little bit later, we'll get to our

1466
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 4: pick and payoff. I didn't pick the Nets Mavericks game

1467
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 4: because christophs Porzingis was listed as questionable and I thought

1468
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 4: everyone's taken the Nets. But he's been upgraded to probable.

1469
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 4: So we're getting an email Lee, Chris is gonna be

1470
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 4: back on the floor tonight. It sure, it looks like

1471
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 4: so maybe it's not injured at all. It's a knee injury,

1472
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 4: so of course everyone worried seeing him in a very

1473
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 4: sharp suit with no tie on the sideline. But he

1474
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 4: might be back playing basketball tonight.

1475
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 2: We will see. All right, We're gonna take our final

1476
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 2: break when we come back. We got Lee's tweet of

1477
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 2: the night and picking results and our new pick for tonight.

1478
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 2: Let's get to tweet of the night.

1479
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 5: Tweet of the night.

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01:07:50,160 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: Woww Yes, I am going off the board for this

1481
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: one and going back to the homeland of my birth.

1482
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 6: In fact, because this comes in.

1483
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? I'm going off the board

1484
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 2: and going Yes, I'm going after the board one.

1485
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 4: Ye.

1486
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: Usually you set me up, Usually say Lily, what you

1487
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: got I was waiting for it? Didn't have it anyway,

1488
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to the KFC Big Bash League for this

1489
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: outstanding feat of athleticism by Jake Fraser McGuirk.

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01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 5: Way, oh, I think he might have got enough.

1491
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 4: Unbelievable Frazer mcgod for the one handy screamer of the

1492
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 4: boundary of marble.

1493
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: Yes, that is from the Big Bash League in Australia,

1494
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty competition.

1495
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 6: Now check it out. I've got some replays here of

1496
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 6: this cash.

1497
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:56,560
Speaker 1: Just look at the athleticism of this because remember no

1498
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: gloves by the fieldsman in cricket.

1499
01:08:58,960 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 2: Look at this.

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01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: Watch what he does here to catch this one. It

1501
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: gets up boom nice. That is incredible here it is

1502
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: again a.

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01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 2: That that's a lot of a lot of fans in

1504
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:11,560
Speaker 2: attendance for this.

1505
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm not sure if that's coronavirus fro late

1506
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 6: at all.

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01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 2: Eight people saw that catch?

1508
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just hey, you know what tweet of the week?

1509
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: Twitter the night you can go wherever you want. I thought, great,

1510
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: I'll chose some cricket highlights, great stuff.

1511
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 2: What's his name, James mc squirt, Jamie mcquar, what's going

1512
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 2: on there? What's his name? I'm asking?

1513
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:39,560
Speaker 6: His name is Jake Fraser mcgook. Yeah, you seem a

1514
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 6: little bit. I don't know, it's saucy. Today's you know

1515
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 6: something in the air.

1516
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 2: Fantastic NBA podcast audio Watching Cricket highlight.

1517
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 5: I love it.

1518
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: What to catch, incredible stuff, incredible stuff.

1519
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 4: It reminds me. I played one year of mushball. It's

1520
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 4: softball with no gloves, That's what That catch reminds me

1521
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 4: of a lot of broken fingers, a lot of broken

1522
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 4: fingers in marshball, a lot of broken fingers and cricket lee.

1523
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, in fact you can't really see it, but

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01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 1: I got a I've got a couple of broken fingers

1525
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: from cricket because, yeah, the ball's hard, especially when it

1526
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: gets whacked like that. I mean, you practice those sorts

1527
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: of things, so you learn how to sort of catch

1528
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: on that. But still, you know, you just catch it

1529
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: at the wrong angle or whatever, and it can, Yeah,

1530
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: it can do some damage. The catcher is called a

1531
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: wicket keeper in cricket. Now his fingers at the end

1532
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: of his career are like Alvin Gentry, Sean Marion. I

1533
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: think it's like catches in Yeah. I think like in baseball,

1534
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: aren't that you know, like Jje Posada, for example. I

1535
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: think all his or one one side of his hand.

1536
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 2: For example.

1537
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, but they but they're only actually catches with one hand,

1538
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 6: doesn't he really?

1539
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1540
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably cricket you've got the two hands there, so, yeah,

1541
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: their fingers are all a bit a bit wonky.

1542
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 6: At the end of their careers.

1543
01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 4: They learned to create all that as a kid, right,

1544
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 4: a cricket cricket cradler. Right, well, correct that thing you

1545
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 4: collect it?

1546
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want it because the balls going so fast.

1547
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: You don't just want to like go forward, You want

1548
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: to like catch it like that. Take the take the

1549
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: speed off it as you can.

1550
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 2: I got I got a question for really we got

1551
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 2: Noil buffs. That's a survivor podcast. You got Neil Breaks.

1552
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,879
Speaker 2: That's an F one podcast. Where's the cricket podcast?

1553
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 6: You want a cricket podcast?

1554
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 2: No, I don't want people.

1555
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 5: What do you mean?

1556
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 2: Hey? I had Mark war on this year.

1557
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 4: It was good.

1558
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1559
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 6: You want to talk catchers.

1560
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: You can check out Mark Wall's Highlight Real's Mix take

1561
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:38,799
Speaker 1: of catches for the next.

1562
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 2: Tweet of the week. When you're going off the.

1563
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 6: Greatest greatest lips catcher of all time, Mark war So

1564
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 6: there you can there you go. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.

1565
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 4: Why not. Yeah, we've got a comment saying Cricket podcast,

1566
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 4: Yes if you're listening, and we're just saying, yeah.

1567
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 2: I like this leasing but is the sm give one

1568
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 2: more time?

1569
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 6: Hore passala?

1570
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I can go to sleep.

1571
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1572
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: But funnily enough, he used to bat without gloves, which

1573
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: is kind of ironic, isn't it, because most most batters

1574
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: wear gloves, don't they they? So yeah, ok, yeah I

1575
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: remember he was. He was great and no gloves, but

1576
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: he was the catcher.

1577
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 6: Interesting.

1578
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 2: You definitely talked to him in a piece down at

1579
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:31,799
Speaker 2: the start.

1580
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 6: I did. They're part of that big piece I did

1581
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 6: with on Joe Girardi spoke.

1582
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: With also catcher.

1583
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1584
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 2: I didn't actually notice his fingers, but.

1585
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 6: He's the Phillies bench boss.

1586
01:12:48,160 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 3: These days, there is there a single notable America cricket player.

1587
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 6: Not that I'm aware of.

1588
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 1: Although Sammy Sosa grew up playing cricket. Apparently cricket was

1589
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: his first game because he grew.

1590
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 4: Up in Dear Was he Dominican?

1591
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, so apparently he was a good cricketer

1592
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: as a kid. But Danny A, No, he never played

1593
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: that right now, he played baseball didn't he Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1594
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: but the twenty twenty stuff is what I'm going to

1595
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 1: take you guys to one days where I have a

1596
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: fun time.

1597
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I like this from rich He says, what

1598
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 2: would the name of the Cricket podcast be?

1599
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 6: You say that, rich You say that, But there's no

1600
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 6: doubt in my mind. Guys like Richard be like, I've

1601
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 6: got a hate listen to this at least once or twice.

1602
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 4: You know.

1603
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 5: They have to.

1604
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: They have to, just just in case they get intrigued

1605
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: by and they're like, Okay, there is something to this

1606
01:13:59,439 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: after all.

1607
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 2: Okay, great to me of the night, love it. Jamie mcdert.

1608
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 2: Jamie Frazer mcdert. Picking results from last day. Okay, see

1609
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 2: it was in Detroit. Distans were fav like four and

1610
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 2: a half. This brought to you by bet mgm man.

1611
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: Pistons were looking good, looking, like they would take care

1612
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 2: of business, no problemly got this and then okay see

1613
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 2: in the second half, storm Back got the victory straight

1614
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 2: up money line hit and Trey Kirby he calls it.

1615
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 2: This guy's perfect. In the month of December four and

1616
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 2: oh here in our pick them battle task down to

1617
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 2: two and two and me and Lee bringing up the

1618
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 2: rear one and three lately. Uh, no surprise for me,

1619
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 2: but chocking for you. Anyway, tonight's game task where we

1620
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 2: go and there's only three games on tonight?

1621
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, the TNT double headler is Nets, Mavericks, Celtics, Lakers.

1622
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 4: Usually I'm definitely looking at the big games, but don't

1623
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 4: see we don't pick the league pass games. I'm going

1624
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 4: to a small market team like the New York Knicks

1625
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 4: playing the San Antonio Spurs. I thought that game would

1626
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 4: be a little bit more difficult to call. I thought

1627
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 4: we'd all generally take the Lakers or the Nets, considering

1628
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 4: Porzingis was out, so I went Knicks Spurs. And I'm

1629
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 4: the only one who thinks that the Knicks can bounce

1630
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 4: back against the Spurs team that was on a bit

1631
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 4: of a winning streak until they lost last night or

1632
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 4: a four gamer. But they lost last night and the Knicks, yes,

1633
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 4: some some questions as to what's going on with that rotation.

1634
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 5: R J.

1635
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,799
Speaker 4: Barrett not looking great, but you know, they seem healthier,

1636
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 4: so I think they can bounce back. But why do

1637
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 4: you guys think that the Spurs will take care of

1638
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 4: business the team? Let's be honest. We rarely, rarely, rarely

1639
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 4: talk about on this show. Who's who's got a hot spurs? Take?

1640
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 4: Right now?

1641
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you my reasoning for taking the spurs.

1642
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 2: I have an app on my phone. It's called Flip

1643
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 2: a Coin. I fired it up this morning. I hit

1644
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 2: this little button on it, and the coin flipped, and

1645
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 2: I well, the home team will if if heads comes up,

1646
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 2: that's the home team. If tails comes up, that's the

1647
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 2: road team. And heads came up, so the Spurs are

1648
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: gonna cover.

1649
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 4: I did think that you were using some method of

1650
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 4: either bit. Why do you say that, Well, because I

1651
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 4: put in my pick and you immediately put in your pick,

1652
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 4: and so a lot of people have been saying to you, Hey,

1653
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 4: you've been losing a lot of pickums. Just go with

1654
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 4: the oppositey.

1655
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 2: You know, it drives me insane.

1656
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 5: No, I've done that.

1657
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 2: I've done that one hundred times. I'm like, oh, I

1658
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: can't pick one to save my life, so I'll go

1659
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 2: the opposite and then I just get it wrong. It

1660
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 2: doesn't work. So now I'm leaving it completely up to chance.

1661
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 5: It's a great app to have, it really is.

1662
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 4: When we because I linger, I like to linger doing

1663
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 4: a lot of things, and sometimes it's good just to

1664
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 4: have something just to shut my brain off and say,

1665
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 4: I'm going to make a decision using the old coin app.

1666
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, flip a coin.

1667
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 4: This is my coin app is called flip a coin.

1668
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god, there's ads all over it and pop

1669
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 2: up this morning. I guess I gotta buy the premium

1670
01:16:58,680 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 2: version of flipper coil.

1671
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 3: I got.

1672
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 5: The coin there.

1673
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 6: Why don't you just flip a coin in the old

1674
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 6: fashioned way.

1675
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 2: Nobody has coins anymore. You got coins corner?

1676
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1677
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 2: I got a man's coin right here?

1678
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 4: Wow?

1679
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, what is that?

1680
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 3: Yeah? It's Peter Manzanelli. He's a big crypto influencer. He

1681
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 3: should check out some of his stuff. The problem, though,

1682
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 3: is it's the same thing on both sides. Oh that's yeah.

1683
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1684
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,600
Speaker 3: So I went with essays because I knew we were

1685
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,759
Speaker 3: going to be talking about Sammy Sosa today.

1686
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 2: I was just feeling the vibes.

1687
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 4: It's non fungible. I guess if it's the same on both.

1688
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 2: Sides, what do you got?

1689
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 6: I got a US a US one dollar coin rare.

1690
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 1: I got a couple of quarters here, and I've got

1691
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 1: even fifty euro since there you go and I got

1692
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: a Canadian five cents. Hey, you go the beaver, the

1693
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: Canadian beava. Well, love some Canadian beava five cents.

1694
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 2: A crap, the homeland of your birth.

1695
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 4: Justin you.

1696
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 2: Could you hurry up and get that classic factory and order. Man,

1697
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 2: Just all get back together, guys, call it there. Email

1698
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,759
Speaker 2: your NBA questions in to No Dunks at the Athletic

1699
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,679
Speaker 2: dot Com. Seriously here, we're gonna probably hit the beach.

1700
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 2: Tomorrow's only three games on tonight, so we'll do some

1701
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 2: beach step And if you've got a good question about

1702
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 2: the NBA or non NBA, send it in No Dunks

1703
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,280
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1704
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,400
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1705
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Speaker 2: up very soon. It's our f one podcast live later

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Speaker 2: today here at two pm Eastern on this very podcast feed.

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Speaker 2: So no breaks coming at you until then. Up a rose.

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Speaker 7: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

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Speaker 7: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, and remember, just like the end

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Speaker 4: of the show. Sometimes I kind of you kind of

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Speaker 4: hangs on a little bit, kind of lingers a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, that's me making decisions a lot of the time.

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Speaker 4: That's when my wife will say, do you.

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Speaker 5: Have to do?

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Speaker 4: You have to do?

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Speaker 2: You have to do?

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Speaker 4: You have to let it linger?

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Speaker 2: You always put it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, yeah, I do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you do that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It loves the liquor. It lingers lyrics.

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Speaker 4: It's one of those mental mashups, you know. I just

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Speaker 4: just create new words for you.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, don't go anywhere gd I'll flip

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Speaker 2: the coin and if it comes up heads, we gotta

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Speaker 2: just ramble for another minute or two, okay. And if

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Speaker 2: it comes up tails, oh, then I'll say embraces there.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, tap to flip. Oh you hear that, girl.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know how that little uh tails Embrace the day. People,

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Speaker 2: you could stay every day.

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Speaker 4: And that you happy every minute.

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Speaker 3: It's been so long that you're the one I've waiting for.

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Speaker 4: It's happened already. It's gonna be grippy.