1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cowboys headquarters in Frisco, 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: deep in the heart of Texas. It's the Star at Night. Wow, 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: dramatic much. Why are you getting in the way of 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: my intro? You mean our intro. We're your hosts. I'm 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: Kelsey Charles and I'm David Hellman. Okay, let's just start 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: this show now. Hello darkness, my old friends. We've come 7 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: to sit with you again. Pretty good. Thank you. Wow, Kelsey, 8 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: We've never been here in this studio after a playoff loss, 9 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: but I can't help I feel like we've been here 10 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: a few times before. Yeah, it does feel a little 11 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: repetitive at this point, a little bit of deja vu 12 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: in the Cowboys headquarters in Cowboy World. High there. Welcome 13 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: to the Star at Night. Cowboys bounced out of the playoffs, 14 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: if you haven't heard, by the San Francisco forty nine 15 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: ers by a score of twenty three to seventeen. I 16 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: just um, I think I believed. Man. Yeah, I think 17 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: I did too. I think I did. I think I did. 18 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: It's I tweeted this and I mean this. It stinks 19 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: when you feel like you have all the pieces and 20 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: you still can't see him to get the job done, 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: and for all intents and purposes, it really did feel 22 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: like this Cowboys team had all the pieces, but it 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: obviously did not quite add up. Come Sunday, let's dive in. 24 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: Let's you want to you want to look at Why 25 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: do you want to dissect this? All right? I would 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: love to. I think let's talk about the penalties first. 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean it was a little rough. They couldn't get 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: out of their own way. Fourteen penalties for eighty nine 29 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: penalty yards. That in itself is a bit of a tragedy. 30 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: You talk about repetitive, like if we're talking about deja vu, 31 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: how many times this season, particularly at at and T Stadium, 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: where you're supposed to play cleaner, no crowd noise, that 33 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: type of thing, yep, ugly, ugly, they never judge to it, 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: like from Thanksgiving on. I'm sorry if you feel like 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: the refs are against you, but at some point it's 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: on you to adjust and change the way you play. 37 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: It's really frustrating that they never did that. I think 38 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: Connor Williams was moved around a little bit this season 39 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: because of penalties, and then he finally got back in 40 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: the mix, and then it just felt like again. You know, 41 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: he wasn't the only one by any means. Every time 42 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboy was running through green grass or turf, 43 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: you're just looking for the flag, and every time it 44 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: was there, it was waiting on the turf. Well, what 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: wasn't there was this Cowboys offense, which is supposed to 46 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: be number one in the league. They only managed to 47 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: score seven points in three quarters. So what happened? What 48 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: didn't happen? What I'll tell you what didn't happen. The 49 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: offensive line didn't block any one. Five sacks on the day, 50 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: countless pressures. You know, Nick Bosa didn't play half of 51 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: this game. Yeah, Dak Prescott, I understand, was pressured badly 52 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: all afternoon. Didn't make didn't make many plays like for 53 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: the for the contract size and all that stuff. I 54 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: get it. You need protection, you need help from the 55 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: guys around you. Some of the onus is on you 56 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: to lift your team up. A costly red zone interception 57 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: that sets up the only forty nine ers score of 58 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: the second half. It's not good. It's not good, man. Okay. 59 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: So it's not much better on the defensive front, which 60 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, this defense has been touted as one of 61 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: the main reasons why this Cowboys team has been able 62 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: to stay within games and honestly win games. They Okay, 63 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: was that this game, this might as well have been 64 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: the Cardinal game all over again. Like it's a red team. 65 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: There's flags everywhere, they can't get to the opposing quarterback, 66 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: and the defense got hung out to dry in my opinion, Like, 67 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: could they have played a better game? Sure, they didn't 68 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: get any sacks on Jimmy Garoppolo, but they got a takeaway. 69 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: They sparked some momentum in the second half. The first 70 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: or was rough, which has been a theme for them 71 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: all year. They played well enough to win twenty three points. 72 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: Really you think so twenty three points? I mean in 73 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: a home game? Sure, yes, all right, they I think 74 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: they played well enough to win. They didn't play great. 75 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: I thought they played well. About the three hundred and 76 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: forty one all purpose yards of day allowed. Yeah, like 77 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: I said, it wasn't their best game of the year. 78 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: The forty nine ers scored twenty three points. Anthony Brown 79 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: gets a second half takeaway. Sure, Jimmy Garoppolo is a 80 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: big part of that. Like it was a terrible throw, 81 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: they still made the play. And yeah, I mean penalties 82 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: wiped out some big plays. They couldn't get off the 83 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: field on third down. I get that. But when you're 84 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: looking at like the two facets of this game, who's 85 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: more to blame? I mean, definitely the offense Boom roasted gun. Okay, 86 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: so wrap it up and tied in a bow for 87 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: me really quickly, give me a summary of how you 88 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: would describe. Hey, let's just say the season. In that game, 89 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: we had high expectations and now we entered the big 90 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: sad once again. Oh that's how I feel about the season. 91 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: And well, we are going to go ahead and dive 92 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: into the big style a little bit more so, guys 93 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: are feeling some of this big status. 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I'm Dave Kelse, moving past or at least 103 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: trying to move past the disappointment of the game itself. 104 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: It's a weird weekend. We I should say, to be 105 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: at the Star always well, I mean, okay, you're not wrong, 106 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: but like, just the vibe after a season ends is 107 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: always weird, particularly in a week like this. People are 108 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: frustrated with the head coach, the coordinators are both off 109 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: interviewing for jobs. It's just it's a weird time to 110 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: be around, which it leads to like a lot of 111 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: questions and speculation about what the next few weeks could hold. Yeah, 112 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: I mean I never get used to when the off 113 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 1: season hits. I mean, it's just a weird, weird time 114 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: and there's like a lot of going on. A lot 115 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: is going on, excuse me, but there's also nothing going on, 116 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: so it's just very strange. Which so, speaking of strange, 117 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys go twelve and five, when the Seas make the 118 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: playoffs and they're fielding questions about the job security of 119 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: their head coach. Let's hear from Stephen Jones. I don't 120 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: know what you can say. What you want to say, 121 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: but are you of the belief or are you confident 122 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: that Mike McCarthy will continue to lead this team next season? Absolutely, 123 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: very confident. Not a very long answer at all, but 124 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: a firm answer yes. But again, like, honestly, there's always 125 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: something uniquely weird about these situations, like this isn't the 126 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: first time the Cowboys have been in this position after 127 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: a season, but it is interesting. Both of their main 128 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: coordinators could be moving on this year. They're both interviewing 129 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 1: for jobs. I think the reason you ask that question 130 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: to Stephen Jones is because their speculation out there, especially 131 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: the way the season ended. Do you try to keep 132 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: a Dan Quinn or a Kellen Moore here by offering 133 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: them the head coaching job? Like, I don't know how 134 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: realistic that is, but I know it's a talking point. 135 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: I think it's definitely a talking point. But also I 136 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: think it's unrealistic to think that you can bring a 137 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: head coach in after two seasons have them just completely 138 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: perform and go to the highest level possible. I think 139 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: that's where keeping in mind. On the flip side, I 140 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: think it's also worth noting that you know, Listen Dak 141 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: is one in three in the postseason. Mccartey hasn't been 142 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: there for five years. So while I always like to 143 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: say that you really do need to add color momentary 144 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: to the stat lines, I do think that's a pretty 145 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: sobering statistic and it's worth mentioning, especially when you think 146 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: about the level of pay that you know Dak's receiving, 147 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: and granted it was market value, but still he got 148 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: paid nonetheless, and then mc McCarthy's being asked to win 149 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: a championship and yet here we are. Somebody pointed out 150 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: to me, maybe you've seen the stat My guy Joe 151 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: Burrow has the same number of playoff wins as Dak. 152 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's not fair, maybe it is. These 153 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: are the types of things that gets said in the 154 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: wake of a disappointing season. And it's going to be 155 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: a weird few weeks until we figure out what the 156 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: future looks like with these coordinators, whether these guys are 157 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: going to leave, what jobs they're going to take, And 158 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: like I said, it's just it's eerily quiet from the 159 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys front office, and I think it will be until 160 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: they have a better lay of the land. Do you 161 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: have any idea what you think is going to happen 162 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: in terms of who's going to be retained, who will 163 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: go or do you have any gut feelings if you will. 164 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: I think Daran Quinn's gone, Yes, I think he did 165 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: such a good job with this defense. They're so many 166 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: teams coming after him. I think last time I checked, 167 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: he's got five interviews lined up. Yeah, that seems unrealistic. 168 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore is interesting to me. He's got interviews, but 169 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: not the greatest final impression right, seventeen points in a 170 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: home playoff game. I'm interested to see how that affects 171 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: his future. But plenty more to sort out as the 172 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: offseason gets underway. Until then, we will be talking in 173 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: more detail about Dan Quinn and what next season might 174 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: look like. This segment was brought to you by the 175 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: Dallas Morning News. Nobody does sports like Sports Day, your 176 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: home for complete Dallas Cowboys coverage. This segment is brought 177 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: to you by Academy Sports and Outdoors Officials, sporting Goods 178 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: retailer of the Dallas Cowboys, Harry David. So we discuss 179 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: I don't coordinator. I know it is a little weird, 180 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: it's too formal. Well, there are some formalities being had 181 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,359 Speaker 1: this week because the two coordinators for Dallas Cowboys are interviewing, 182 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna go ahead and take a list of where 183 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: they are suiting up and having discussions. Dan Quinn's got 184 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: five sounds like the Denver Broncos are favoriting him. He 185 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: might be the one they really have their eye on. 186 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore Yep, he's got a whole list too. You've 187 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: got some crossover there as well, David, Yeah, can we 188 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: talk about I think the report I saw was that 189 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: Kellen and Dan are interviewing for the Broncos job on 190 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: the same day. That's hilarious. Like do you remember Dan 191 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: supposedly helped Kellen get ready for his Jacksonville interview back 192 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: during the season, Like, do you think Dan is helping 193 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: Kellen interview for a job that he's interviewing for, Like, 194 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: I mean, whoa, whoa, whoa, kiddo, maybe for the job 195 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: that I didn't want, but I ain't helping you today. 196 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: Get the hell out of here. Yeah, it's pretty crazy 197 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: to see so much crossover. But do you feel like 198 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: it's kind of like part of the process or are 199 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: you thinking just I'm sure it has happened, but I 200 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: cannot remember I don't think I've ever covered a team 201 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: where both of the coordinators were highly sought after in 202 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: the same hiring cycle. This it feels unique to me. 203 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: Maybe not, I'm sure. I'm sure the Patriots have had 204 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: this happen with all the Super Bowl runs that they've 205 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: been on, But it's new to me. Okay, So let's 206 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: cypen and dan Quinn first. Has been a lot of speculation, 207 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: but this hasn't just started now. We talked about what 208 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: he's been able to do with his defense despite you know, 209 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: the season not ending up as they would have hoped. 210 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: But listen, let's face it, he's a players coach. They're 211 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: really I just feel like a lot of these guys 212 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: buy into what he's selling, and I think he's a 213 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: very viable head coaching candidate. So do you think that 214 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: dan Quinn, realistically speaking, stays in Dallas or are you, 215 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: like listen, I mean, there's so many teams that could 216 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: use him and he's gone. The only way he's still 217 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: here next year is if he means what he said 218 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: that he just loved having this job. I mean, he 219 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: has been a head coach. It can kind of suck 220 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: when it doesn't go the right way, maybe he does 221 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: enjoy just focusing on a defense and coaching talented guys 222 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: like Michael Parsons and Treyvon Diggs. I doubt it. I 223 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: doubt it because guess what, There's plenty of defenses across 224 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: this league with plenty of talent for him to coach, 225 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, these guys want 226 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: a shout to prove themselves on the biggest stage. McCarthy 227 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: took a year off and took use that as a 228 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: catapult back into the league. Dan Quinn's done the same 229 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: thing by revitalizing this Dallas defense. I just I doubt 230 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: he lets that opportunity. So I hate how much I 231 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: agree with that statement, But good for him. He does 232 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: deserve the opportunity. So okay, so let's move on to 233 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. Than this one, to me is the most 234 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: curious because it's tricky. This is a rollercoaster ride of 235 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: a head coaching. I feel like for him, the track 236 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: was pretty clear that everyone's like, oh, he's the head 237 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: coach in waiting, right, and like we can't let him 238 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: be stolen. In last year, everyone think he's gonna go 239 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: to Boise and now people are trying to get rid 240 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: of them, at least on Twitter, right, like the Twitter 241 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: GMS hate Kellen Morney's days. I'm laughing a little bit 242 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: because we've definitely done a segment on this show back 243 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: in October that was like, oh my god, Jerry, how 244 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: are you going to keep Kellen Moore? Keep him at 245 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: all costs? And now the same fans are like, Kellen, 246 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: take a job, Please go interview somewhere and take it 247 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: and don't come back, like that's just the reality of 248 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: this business, Like you're as good as your last game. 249 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Kellen Moore, and the offense has been up 250 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: and down for about nine games. I'm curious to see, like, 251 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: has the offensive performance in the second half of the 252 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: season been good enough to merit a head coaching opportunity. 253 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: If I'm being honest, I don't know if it has. Yeah, 254 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: And so if you're making me bet on it right now, 255 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: I won't be surprised if Kellen Moore is back for 256 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: a fourth go around here in Dallas. But seeing things 257 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: keep an eye on Hey, that's what job interviews are 258 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: all about. Though he could go in and blow somebody 259 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: away and this is all a moot point. We'll just 260 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: have to wait and see. All right, well, he might 261 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: not be the only one who will not be in 262 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: Dallas next year. Potentially. Here's a whole list of guys 263 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: who bay or may not wear a star in their 264 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: helmet next season. We're going to discuss those coming up next. 265 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: This segment is brought to you by Academy Sports and 266 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: Outdoors Officials, Sporting Goods retailer of the Devil's Cowboys. All right, David, 267 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: so we all know my favorite number is twenty two. Well, 268 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure it's my favorite anymore. I actually 269 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: didn't know that. Thank you. Yeah, because, quite frankly, there's 270 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that are coming up on free agency, 271 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: and there's a twenty two strong list. Let's dive into 272 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: the offensive guys first. There's some notable ones we've talked about. 273 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, Cedric Wilson had himself a nice little season. Hey, 274 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: Brian Inger, I mean Dalton Schultz. It just feels like 275 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: it's significant. I mean, with all due respect to all 276 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: of these guys, this is life in the NFL. A 277 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: third of your roster is going to turn over every year. 278 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: Some years it's gonna be tougher than normal. But Yeah, 279 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: they've got at least two or three of these guys. 280 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: I mean Gallup, Schultz and Cedric jump out, don't I 281 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: mean Brian Anger do not sleep on what he meant 282 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: to this team. Yeah, okay, so let's stive into the 283 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: defense well quickly than two because the list is Oh 284 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: it's even longer. Talk to me, Randy, maybe come back, Randy, 285 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: don't leave us. Literally, I will be so sad you guys. 286 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: You can blame it at all. I can eat some 287 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: I will eat runs. If Randy stays, I'm gonna tell 288 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: him you said that. Literally, that corn Husker though he is. Yeah, 289 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: Randy is a big one. Looking on. I mean jay 290 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: Ron Curse obviously a breakout star for this defense to 291 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: Monte Casey started the whole season. Laydon Vanderesh's former first 292 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: round pick, probably played his best game of the year 293 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: against San Francisco. Maybe that's enough to get him a 294 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: new contract here in town. But yeah, I mean the 295 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: list goes on and on. I mean, Carlos Watkins was 296 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: a sneaky, big contributor to that defense. Like I said, 297 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: this is life in the NFL. You're gonna you're gonna 298 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: face these problems every single year. I mean, it was 299 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott at one point in time, it was a 300 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: Marie Cooper at one point in time. Like these things happen. Um, 301 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, well let's dive in then, because I 302 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: want to get your take on which one of these 303 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: guys you think are more likely to return to the team. 304 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: So you touch on it. One of the biggest ones 305 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: that you can start out with, Cedric Wilson, Michael Gallop, 306 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: and Dalton Schultz. I mean, listen, they've all had solid seasons. 307 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: We knew Gallup that he had a lot of injuries, 308 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: but nonetheless he was a contributor. So what do you 309 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: feel like, who's most likely to return? Dalton Schultz is 310 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: going to be a hard guy to keep, Honestly, if 311 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm going most likely, I would probably say Michael Gallup. 312 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: And I hate, I hate that he's injured. But the 313 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: injury maybe affects his market enough. Maybe he's willing to 314 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: sign for a smaller deal, fewer years, fewer dollars, kind 315 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: of a prove it deal to get back on track. 316 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: Maybe he wants to do his rehab here Britt Brown 317 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: does a fantastic job with the rehab program. He's helped 318 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: so many guys back from injury, So I would say, 319 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: gallup Dalton Schultz. I'm not sure how you keep him 320 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: without a franchise tag. Just based on what he's done 321 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: in the last two years. I think he's going to 322 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: get a bag this offseason. So happy for him. He's 323 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: lovely and we love his wife too. Okay, so let's 324 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: talk about the safety position. And here for a minute, 325 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: this has always been a point of contention for Cowboys defenses. 326 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: It feels like this team does not value the safety position. 327 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: They finally found one. Wow, so you finally find a guy. 328 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: You've got Curse, You've got Kaz, you also have Cooker Cooker. Yeah. 329 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean between the three of them, it's a little 330 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: bit of It's a decent, solid lineup. But this is 331 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: what's frustrating. And like I get it, the season ends 332 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: and you want to get right into like fixing the 333 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: team to make another run. These are hard things to 334 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: answer until you know who your defensive coordinator is. Like, 335 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't think dan Quinn will be 336 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: back next year. The scheme could change. You could have 337 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: a whole new coaching staff in here with a completely 338 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: different idea of the guys they like j Ron Curse. Shoot, 339 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: if I was j Ron Curse, I would be like, hey, Dan, 340 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: remember how you revitalized my career and turned me into 341 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: a potential pro bowler. Yeah, I would like to go 342 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: where you're going. That's what I would do if I 343 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: were jay Ron Curse. So these are just things that 344 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: we're going to have to kind of wait and see on. 345 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: But all three of those guys are players that I 346 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: would like to have back. Okay, so let's stay on 347 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: the defense here for a minute. Two Because we mentioned Gregory, 348 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: So Gregory, we also have Lve and then Kean O'Neil. 349 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: So between those three guys, who a are you hoping 350 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: to keep in? Who do you think is most likely? 351 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: I just and I mean, first of all, Randy, get 352 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: the bag, dude, Like, by any means necessary, get the 353 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: bag with everything that you've been through. But again, like, 354 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: this is such a long and complicated story the Cowboys 355 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: and Randy Gregory, going all the way back to the 356 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: spring of fifteen, the Cowboys have stuck by his side 357 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: against all odds. He is resurfaced to be a very 358 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: productive player for them. I just I just want it 359 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: to work out for both sides. Like I just, I don't. 360 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: I'm not a big believer in the hometown discount. But 361 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: with all of this common history between those two sides, 362 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: maybe this is a situation where you come to an 363 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: agreement because of the history that you share. I just 364 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: I would really like to see that. I'd love to 365 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: manifest that for all of us, because I too want 366 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: Randy to get the bag, but I also want him 367 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: to get the bag here in Daly, please and thank you. Okay, 368 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: so there's another game that we've been playing all seasons. 369 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: We might as well just pile disappointment on to the 370 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: end of the show. We're gonna go ahead and discuss 371 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: the final standings of under review coming up next, guys. 372 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys Star at Night was brought to you by Academy 373 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: Sports and Outdoors, the Officials Sporting Goods retailer of the 374 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at and T, and by NFL Game Pass. 375 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: You'll never miss a game again. Enjoy full and condensed 376 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: game replays from Week one to the Super Bowl. Macbeth 377 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: is in the news cycle right now. There's a move. 378 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: There's a Macbeth adaptation playing right now. That's really all 379 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: I know about it. But I played. I thought it 380 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: was fitting because we played this game all year and 381 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: it was really just a tale told by an idiot, 382 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: full of sound and fury signifying nothing like we just 383 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: we talked about this and bragged about this for seventeen 384 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: weeks and we all sucked at it. Yeah, we all 385 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: sucked at predicting these games, just like we sucked at 386 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: predicting where this team was going to go. How do 387 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: you feel, Kelse? I just really feel like, yeah, you 388 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: know what, I'm maybe got back. Okay, I'm not even 389 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: gonna make fun of you, because look like I tied 390 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: with the dumb fans who I've been making fun of 391 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: all year, and we both finished with losing records. Like 392 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: actually kind of give them the edge because technically, since 393 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: this is your job, I feel like you should be 394 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: better at this. But here we are a point. This is, 395 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: like I said, sound and fury signifying nothing like much 396 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: like the Cowboys season, it was a lot of talk 397 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: and expect throughout the year, and we're sitting here in 398 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: January not feeling great about ourselves. Well just it's not 399 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: it's a it's not a pleasant taste, which I said 400 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: I would eat a bar soap last week. I'm not 401 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: doing that because I wasn't wrong about that. I don't 402 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: know if you were, though I might as well. I 403 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: might as well have. I might as well because that's 404 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: how I feel right now. Well, guys, thank you guys 405 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: so much for hanging out with us this season. We 406 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,239 Speaker 1: do appreciate it. For David Altman, Kelty Charles has been 407 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: a start night. We'll see you guys on the internet, though. 408 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: Goodbye to TV.