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Speaker 1: Everybody. It's Bill Courtney. Welcome into the shop.

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Speaker 2: I heard there was a fire in the shop or

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Speaker 2: do you not want to talk about that too?

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Speaker 1: So we could do it's I'm kind of tired. I

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Speaker 1: could say we had a little fire here at my

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Speaker 1: the morning, so Alex is giving me all of about

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Speaker 1: twelve hours to you know, deal with it before you

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Speaker 1: start giving me crap about it.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's maybe a little bit. Everything is okay. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're fine, Thank goodness. We had some people paying attention

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Speaker 1: and it didn't damage too much. Anyway. Welcome to Shop

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Speaker 1: Talk number thirty seven. Welcome into the shop. And you

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Speaker 1: guys are going to hear from Alex more than normal

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Speaker 1: in this particular sharp talk. I know. So, y'all brace

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Speaker 1: from Lorena Lorena. What do you think Lorena Lorena Lorena Avara?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, probably both.

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Speaker 2: Arena's really a beautiful name, though it is?

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Speaker 1: Is it beautiful? Na? I'm sure as beautiful person. So

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Speaker 1: here's here's what she says, very short and sweet. Would

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Speaker 1: love to hear about the idea of the podcast. If

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Speaker 1: I recall correctly, Alex is the mastermind behind it. Let's

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Speaker 2: Masterminds a little strong, but sure.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well, yeah, well we'll discuss that shot talk

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Speaker 1: number thirty seven. How in the world did an army

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Speaker 1: and normal folks even start in the first place? Right

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Speaker 1: after these brief messages from our general sponsors. Okay, everybody,

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Speaker 1: welcome back doors in shop talk number thirty seven. Folks

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Speaker 1: want to know how an army and normal folks started.

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Speaker 1: So I'll start and then I'll let Alex take it

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Speaker 1: from there. When I queue you come in, but not before. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Now you gotta be nervous, like, what kind of weird

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Speaker 1: Right now? I'm not gonna do anything weird, So about

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Two years ago now, Alex worked for

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Speaker 2: We had to test it out this morning.

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Speaker 1: You interrupted me. You said you were going to sit

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Speaker 1: there until I cued you, and you talked sorry. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So he reached out to me and wanted to do

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Speaker 1: an interview with me, and I have done since Undefeated

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Speaker 1: so no big deal. Sure, happy to give you an interview.

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Speaker 1: So he showed up to my office with all his

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Speaker 1: for at the time, and that was that. During that interview,

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Speaker 2: Just to say about broken clocks, what even the right

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Speaker 1: We'll see there it is. So I'm probably correct a

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Speaker 1: you said this, and I'm interested in that, and I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking about starting a new podcast. I'd like you to

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Speaker 1: my life. But Lisa loves me, but she's not real

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Speaker 1: the amount of time we're spending on this thing. Who

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Speaker 1: have to think, however, is you because of the incredible

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Speaker 2: Alex, Thanks Bill, Sure, I actually hate talking. It's easier

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, when somebody just came in in the door. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and people like you know, the founder is a home depoter.

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Speaker 2: It's Carlton and Best buying two minut a truck. And

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Speaker 2: I'm not bragging, it's it's more Bill has stood out.

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Speaker 1: But it's weird sitting here listening to it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the shop talks are bad idea after all, but no,

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Speaker 2: Uh, you got a hell of the story, obviously undefeated

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Speaker 2: what people know, but what you've been through, the fact

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Speaker 2: of you at a gun, what you've overcome. You know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of the most beautiful stories out there are

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Speaker 2: drawn to your story, but also to the fact that

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Speaker 2: and as we often joke about, being asked by Heritage

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Speaker 2: with the same speech. And you've got the same applause lines.

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Speaker 2: And man, it's really weird looking at you saying this

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Speaker 2: to reach everybody. And then, of course the line you

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Speaker 2: problems won't be solved by all these fancy people in

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Speaker 1: It's not on.

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Speaker 2: Bill Courtney to save the country, on Alice Cortez or

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Speaker 2: any of the individual listeners. If there truly were this

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Speaker 1: Way, very very gracious. So there you have it, guys

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Speaker 1: thankless hard work that Alex puts in to continue to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a lot. It's been a lot, a

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Speaker 1: we're really doing is asking you, guys, to do just

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Speaker 1: we can continue to grow this platform and do exactly

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Speaker 1: what Alex hopes that can happen, which is literally grow

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Speaker 1: our society today. So that Shop Talk number thirty seven.

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Speaker 1: And guys, if you have any shop Talk ideas, please

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Speaker 1: email anytime at Bill at Normal Folks got us. I'll

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Speaker 1: respond and if it's something I think I might have

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Speaker 1: take it up. If not, I'll at least respond to

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Speaker 1: you and tell you I'm not equipped to talk about it,

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Speaker 1: but you will hear back from me. Thanks our producer,

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Speaker 1: Iro Light Labs. Have a great week. That's Shop Talk

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Speaker 1: number thirty seven. We're leaving.

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Speaker 2: Finally, I'm off it.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye,