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Speaker 1: of my next two guests on the critically acclaim HBO

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Speaker 1: series The Wire, and both of their careers span more

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Speaker 1: coach starring in the Netflix film The Five Bloods, which

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Speaker 1: critical acclaimed film Harriet Saw That Too, about Harriet Tubman

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Speaker 1: and he would co star opposite my man Brian Cranston

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Speaker 1: The Five Bloods is premiering on Netflix on June twelve.

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Speaker 1: Please Walk on the Money. Main conversations my man Clark Peters,

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Speaker 1: who's in London, And Isaiah Whitlock Jr. Who's in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: How you guys, fellows, how are you doing? Fellers? Lovely

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Speaker 1: introduction brother, Well, first of all, that's a shortened version

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Speaker 1: and then may Alvin use Isaiah or that was Malvine

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Speaker 1: was played by Isaiah Withlock Jr. Also on the journey

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Speaker 1: I felt it was real. I felt the emotion, I

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Speaker 1: A great movie. The Five Blood premiers June twelfth on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: that's not understanding how they can take care of themselves.

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Speaker 1: Can I can I put cannec with this to here?

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Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't in the States when it when

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Speaker 1: I'm not minimizing that at all. But what you guys

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Speaker 1: were getting the complete opposite over here. What we got

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Speaker 1: were saying, well, it doesn't bother people of Afro Caribbean descent.

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Speaker 1: That's what was going on here. Now we've been around

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Speaker 1: long enough. We've been around long enough to know how

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Speaker 1: how a machine will will effect or use people of color,

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Speaker 1: people of a lesser uh circumstance, for its own means.

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Speaker 1: You know, Now we have not only the pandemic, but

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Speaker 1: we also have this five G thing that's going up

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Speaker 1: as well, running alongside right. Well, I see that and that,

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Speaker 1: and that is exactly my point. We don't know. We

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Speaker 1: something over there. But what I do know is this

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Speaker 1: is that Tuskegee was an experiment. You know. What I

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Speaker 1: do know is that when the pilgrims came on over

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Speaker 1: You know, I do know that according to history, you know,

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm saying, there's not to minimize the the

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Speaker 1: give up the responsibility of your health to somebody else.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Do not give it up to somebody else.

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Speaker 1: You know, God gave you that body and that mind

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Speaker 1: for you to work within that temple and for you

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Speaker 1: to keep that clean, for you to look after that.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I think about I'm sorry. I'm sorry, no,

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Speaker 1: but not don't mean to cut you off, Clark. No. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was pretty much done because like I'm moving to

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. People wanted to say. What I

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Speaker 1: been that you know, it's just like you're looking up

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Speaker 1: real problem is, UH, and starting to ask a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions, why why is it this way? Why do

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Speaker 1: is there so much diabetes? High blood pressure? Why? Uh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: wire why why why are we in this type of situation?

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Speaker 1: And the more you dig, the more you begin to

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Speaker 1: realize that this is not This has been going on

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Speaker 1: for years. Yes, I mean when I say years, I'm

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Speaker 1: talking centuries. Yes, that's right, and uh, that's right. And

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Speaker 1: going forward it needs to be fixed. All of this

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Speaker 1: stuff about the heroes and essential people and everything like that. Uh,

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Speaker 1: when this pandemic is over, if it's ever over, I

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Speaker 1: want to see. I want to see what we do

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Speaker 1: going forward. You want to see if those if those

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Speaker 1: we were doing. That's that's gonna be really sad. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna be very very sex Yes, you know, and and

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Speaker 1: and you know what we do is all we have

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Speaker 1: to do is look at the way that our veterans

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Speaker 1: are being taken care of. You look at the way

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Speaker 1: our veterans have been taken care of, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I want to thinking about heroes and I don't

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Speaker 1: absolutely here's the deal. I want to thank both of

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Speaker 1: you guys for coming on the show. Uh this first

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Speaker 1: time talking to you guys, It's been amazingly fun. I

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Speaker 1: don't wanna you know, they gave me a time limit.

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Speaker 1: That's why I don't want to go beyond that. Clark

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Speaker 1: Peters Eyes with Like Juniors, two of the stars of

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Speaker 1: The Five Bloods, premiering on Netflix on Junil twelve. Guys,

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Speaker 1: any closing comments before we get out of here, other

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Speaker 1: than it's a great movie and go see it on

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Speaker 1: Netflix and uh, making a trending movie, making number one

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Speaker 1: I'm been throwing my part. Felt, I'm doing my part.

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Speaker 1: Listen to what pretty it is, rash Let's to what

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Speaker 1: Rashawn sayss I can put that on, put that on there.

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Speaker 1: We just what Rashawn says. I appreciate your fellows. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate y'all. Thank you for coming on the show. And

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Speaker 1: we'll talking soon. I got I'm interviewing Dead Water to

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