WEBVTT - From The Archive: Nancy Pelosi - Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to River Cafe, Table four, a production of iHeartRadio

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<v Speaker 1>and Adamized Studios.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it, Seve? What time is it? Is it seven? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Well they want us.

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<v Speaker 3>To not time to eat yet.

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<v Speaker 4>But a few weeks ago a very special person came

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<v Speaker 4>to dinner at our home, Speaker of the United States

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<v Speaker 4>House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait, I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait up tonight. We're having two chocolate desserts.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw on that. Okay, I was thinking, that can

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<v Speaker 3>make that my whole meal. I mean that I won't.

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<v Speaker 4>Before greeting the other guests, Nancy and I talked together

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<v Speaker 4>about food and politics, food and family, food in her

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<v Speaker 4>Italian American childhood, and being the mother of five children.

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<v Speaker 4>We also spent quite a lot of time talking about

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<v Speaker 4>our shared passion for chocolate ice cream.

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<v Speaker 5>My husband and I got married, we lived in New York,

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<v Speaker 5>now New York for me. When I was a young girl,

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<v Speaker 5>a child, really, our family would go to New York regularly.

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<v Speaker 5>We'd go to plays, we'd go to dinner. All that

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<v Speaker 5>New York was like heaven.

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<v Speaker 3>So here.

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<v Speaker 5>We were young, married in Manhattan. Paul was working, but

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<v Speaker 5>we didn't have children yet.

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<v Speaker 2>The first year, and what kind of restaurants would you

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<v Speaker 2>seek out?

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<v Speaker 5>We had, shall we say, champagne taste and beer bottled purses.

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<v Speaker 3>So we did.

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<v Speaker 5>Say that and go We would go to the best

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<v Speaker 5>restaurants as if we were entitled, almost or we would

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<v Speaker 5>just go to the neighborhood Italian American restaurant in New

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<v Speaker 5>York or something, or the corner place to have whatever

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<v Speaker 5>it was. But New York was great because, for example,

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<v Speaker 5>if you wanted to have chopped chicken livers, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 5>the best place in the world for chopped chicken. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>anything you wanted the best was there carry out that

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<v Speaker 5>would be. But we were largely into dining out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>then we had children, and then it was more.

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<v Speaker 2>Than And so when you when you were.

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<v Speaker 4>Bringing up the children, did you follow your mother's footsteps?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have somebody helping?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 5>No, we had no help none. I mean that was

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<v Speaker 5>a different world. When you have five children in six years,

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<v Speaker 5>help doesn't come anywhere near your house.

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<v Speaker 3>They take detours.

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<v Speaker 5>So you mean help wouldn't come near you, Oh my gosh, no,

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<v Speaker 5>why would they. You could go work with somebody with

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<v Speaker 5>one child or two children. Why would they going to

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<v Speaker 5>work with somebody with five children?

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<v Speaker 2>So how did you do it?

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<v Speaker 5>It was intense. It was intense, but I would love

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<v Speaker 5>to do it all over. Then it was the most

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<v Speaker 5>glorious thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You've lived in an apartment in New York? Or was

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<v Speaker 2>that time you were in San Francis? Were?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? We had four children in New York?

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<v Speaker 2>We did.

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<v Speaker 3>We left New York.

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<v Speaker 5>We had four children, the oldest was four, and we

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<v Speaker 5>had a lovely apartment in Beakman Place, and then we

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<v Speaker 5>moved to San Francisco and had a big home. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>we didn't realize how small our apartment was until we

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<v Speaker 5>moved into a home in San Francisco and that was lovely.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we had our fifth child there.

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<v Speaker 4>And how did you cook for five children? Did you

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<v Speaker 4>both cook? Did you cook?

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<v Speaker 5>How did you feed them healthily? Yea, they'll not say

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<v Speaker 5>that I was a great cook. I mean it was

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<v Speaker 5>standard fare. And then as they got older, I just

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<v Speaker 5>got tired of washing pots and pans. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 5>to wash anymore pots and pans. So I developed a

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<v Speaker 5>practice where I would go to some place like MacArthur Park,

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<v Speaker 5>which was a restaurant then that had the greatest ribs okay,

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<v Speaker 5>or we go to the Rocas, which was a seafood place.

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<v Speaker 5>I would go to Chinatown Peking Duck and I would

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<v Speaker 5>make a salad and I would bring home this and

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<v Speaker 5>it wasn't strictly carry out like.

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<v Speaker 2>Fast food.

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<v Speaker 5>It was delicious food from these restaurants. We have this

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<v Speaker 5>meal Linen's salad. So when I went to Congress, my

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<v Speaker 5>youngest daughter, Alexandra, she said, mother, I'm so proud of

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<v Speaker 5>you because you're a pioneer. I said, really, because I'm

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<v Speaker 5>a woman member of Congress. She said, no, Remember when

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<v Speaker 5>you used to cook and then you stopped. Well, now

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of people stop cooking, but you were the

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<v Speaker 5>first to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good, that's good that you pioneer. Oh it is

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<v Speaker 2>a liberation, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>It can be creative cooking, It can be exciting, it

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<v Speaker 4>can be relaxing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a family affair.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a lovely thing.

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<v Speaker 5>But three times, and with five children, five will get

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<v Speaker 5>you ten every time because they bring So it's a thing.

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<v Speaker 5>But the pots got me, the pots and pants that

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<v Speaker 5>got me.

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<v Speaker 2>So you got you got that's good. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>children got older.

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<v Speaker 4>You then became more and more involved in politics and participas.

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<v Speaker 3>Always said, we're in school all day.

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<v Speaker 2>How did food fit into that life?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, how did it fit into working and being

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<v Speaker 4>a working mother.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the children would call it child labor. But we

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<v Speaker 5>would have many events at our home all the time,

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<v Speaker 5>and we always had food.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 5>It was about people coming together, people coming So we

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<v Speaker 5>would always have food so that kids would help prepare.

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<v Speaker 3>And they say to this.

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<v Speaker 5>Day, you know, for every salmon on a bagel, we'd

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<v Speaker 5>eat one and put one on the tray, and these little.

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<v Speaker 3>Ones and the one we would have dinners.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope I none of our guests hear this, but

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<v Speaker 5>here's how we would do it. Say we have like

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<v Speaker 5>many men, many people coming to dinner. Once we had

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<v Speaker 5>nearly two hundred, we had a big house. We bought

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<v Speaker 5>one of those pools, you know, those little pools that children.

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<v Speaker 5>You inflate it, fill it with water and wash the

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<v Speaker 5>lettuce in there. Then you put it in a pillowcase,

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<v Speaker 5>tie a knot in it, and you put it on

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<v Speaker 5>the spin cycle in the dishes, in the washing machine.

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<v Speaker 3>The washing washing machine would have to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Very careful because sometimes while would tell people and they

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<v Speaker 5>get it mixed up.

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<v Speaker 3>They put it in the dryer that doesn't.

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<v Speaker 5>Work, had to be in the spin cycle of the

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<v Speaker 5>washing machine and come out crispy. You have to have

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<v Speaker 5>a big thing to wash the lettuce and spin cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>Have any of your children taking on that recipe for us?

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<v Speaker 3>So now, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that they don't entertain one hundred people at

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<v Speaker 5>a time.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think shopping is a hard thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you think getting this shopping done?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? We have a little motto.

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<v Speaker 5>If I don't have to shop for it, cook it

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<v Speaker 5>or clean it up, I'm all in for it, whatever

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<v Speaker 5>it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's not your life. It's very important. It's an art.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember fascinating my grandchildren by having them put a

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<v Speaker 5>mountain of flour. Each had their mountain of flour, break

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<v Speaker 5>eggs and net, mix it up this that and net,

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<v Speaker 5>let it sit, roll it out neat, you know, put

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<v Speaker 5>us through the machine and in the pot of water,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're eating pasta that was a mound of flour

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<v Speaker 5>with an egg in the middle.

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<v Speaker 4>They had their own individual cooking in a restaurant. I say,

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<v Speaker 4>people say to me, how can you cook for two

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<v Speaker 4>hundred people? And I can't cook for eight and I go,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think I can cook for eight. It's much harder,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, because in a restaurant it's you have somebody

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<v Speaker 4>chopping the parsa and somebody helping you pick the crab.

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<v Speaker 4>I think for a lot of people, cooking at home

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<v Speaker 4>as a performance, and you know, and it's quite hard

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<v Speaker 4>to entertain. You feel that you are being judged or

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<v Speaker 4>is it good enough?

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<v Speaker 2>Or well is it hot?

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<v Speaker 3>It's the old thing and it keeping it hot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that was.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a challenge in a restaurant too. And so what about.

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<v Speaker 4>The Washington moving from San Francisco is a very food city.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you have Alice Walters, you had Judy and Rogers,

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<v Speaker 4>you have women chef, you have so many different types

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<v Speaker 4>of food. So was it a big wrench going from

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<v Speaker 4>such a food city to Washington.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me just say, I live in San Francisco, I

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<v Speaker 5>work in Washington, Okay, And I was always working because

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<v Speaker 5>San Francisco is three hours earlier, so when other people

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<v Speaker 5>might go out to dinner it was at seven o'clock.

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<v Speaker 5>It was four o'clock in the afternoon in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 5>So I was really always working. And people would say,

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<v Speaker 5>what's a good restaurant. I mean, I'm the worst person

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<v Speaker 5>to ask, but there are some wonderful restaurants in Washington

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<v Speaker 5>that I can now and look forward to, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>just putting work on the shelves.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you like about a restaurant? What do you

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<v Speaker 2>look for in a restaurant? Is it the food? Is

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<v Speaker 2>it the welcome, is it the descort?

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<v Speaker 5>What? First and foremost, it's the food. And it's very,

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<v Speaker 5>very important that there'd be a tablecloth. The tablecloth is

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<v Speaker 5>not only a tablecloth, it's absorbed sound. So it's little

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<v Speaker 5>calmer when you have that. Now, there are many restaurants

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<v Speaker 5>that don't have tablecloths, that are wonderful restaurants. But I'm

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<v Speaker 5>always happy when I have a tablecloth still at this

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<v Speaker 5>point in life, and I especially still like Italian food.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course I like friend, I like all you know,

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<v Speaker 3>good food.

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<v Speaker 5>Just like music, they're all different kinds of music, from

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<v Speaker 5>classical to rap whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Just as long as it's good, it's good. And same

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<v Speaker 3>thing with food.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we have California, we have you know, the Mexican influence,

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<v Speaker 5>we have the we have every kind of food you

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<v Speaker 5>can imagine in the world in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 4>So have great farms, and I think Alice has done great.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh she's farmed to the table. She's a force, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, unbelievable. Yeah, she's fabulous in every way.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever work in a restaurant?

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<v Speaker 4>Would you take somebody out and work over dinner or

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<v Speaker 4>do you find that you kind of work when you

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<v Speaker 4>work and you eat.

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<v Speaker 2>When you eat?

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<v Speaker 3>I like just to enjoy dinner. Now. Maybe that's being Italian.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a big believer in putting things on the shelf.

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<v Speaker 5>There's an expression in Latin a jay kuada. Just do

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<v Speaker 5>what you're doing if you're dining, if you're eating, and

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<v Speaker 5>then even if it means you have to split the

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<v Speaker 5>I'm eating.

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<v Speaker 3>Now and I'll work then.

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<v Speaker 5>But I don't want to do them together, especially since

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<v Speaker 5>some times your conversations can become.

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<v Speaker 3>Contentious.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I don't mean in a negative way, but

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<v Speaker 5>it's like, why are we talking about this now?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to eat my dinner.

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<v Speaker 4>And what about How does food fit into your work life?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you stop always for lunch? Do you have a

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<v Speaker 4>sandwhich at your desk? Does it depend on the day

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<v Speaker 4>my work?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Food?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I have a salad maybe at my desk, But

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<v Speaker 5>like on Wednesdays I have now for a long time now,

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<v Speaker 5>it's been a pick up lunch for my members. I

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<v Speaker 5>wish that I could be having them for dinner more

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<v Speaker 5>and stuff that we really can't because of COVID for

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<v Speaker 5>a long time. And some of the restaurants that would

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<v Speaker 5>be able to handle that scale just don't even exist

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<v Speaker 5>any I mean some of them have moved on. But

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<v Speaker 5>the food is not an important part of my life

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<v Speaker 5>in DC.

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<v Speaker 3>In DC and.

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<v Speaker 4>When you travel, do you look forward to having a date,

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<v Speaker 4>dinner or lunch. Is it something that you think about

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<v Speaker 4>on your foreign trips?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you have for lunch today? In London?

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<v Speaker 5>Today we had a beautiful lunch hosted by the Speaker

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<v Speaker 5>of the Househoil. It was lovely in every way and

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<v Speaker 5>he told me that they have a cook there at

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<v Speaker 5>the House of Commons and it was beautiful in every way.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a lovely, lovely dining experience. It wasn't just

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<v Speaker 5>eating lunch. It was a dining experience.

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<v Speaker 2>How many of you were there?

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe one table, probably at least forty people at the table,

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<v Speaker 5>big long table, beautiful beautiful flowers, beautiful food.

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<v Speaker 3>It was. It was lovely. And that's that's.

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<v Speaker 5>London's come a long way, baby, I mean from when

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<v Speaker 5>we would come here when we were young.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you have everything, Yeah, you have everything.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really really good restaurants in London. Really Where were

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<v Speaker 2>you last night? Last night?

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<v Speaker 5>We were at Ivy how good that's Scott's.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And we have to get you to the River Cafe.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, all of the River Cafe too.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in there that you come to myrowng time thing

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<v Speaker 2>we have to get We're closed on Sunday nights, so

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<v Speaker 2>you're forgiven for last time. But we would love you

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<v Speaker 2>to come.

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<v Speaker 5>And I like Wolsey because it has a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>we love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to chocolate. That's why I go there. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great restaurant.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think London has definitely there's so many different

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<v Speaker 4>types again, different types of restaurants. And that's one of

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<v Speaker 4>the heartbreaking things about Brexit, you know, is that we

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<v Speaker 4>want to encourage different cultures and being open and that's

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<v Speaker 4>something we we must we mustn't forget. We share values,

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<v Speaker 4>we share concern for inequality, the fact that there are

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<v Speaker 4>children who are going to bed hungry and in Britain

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<v Speaker 4>and in the United States, that we know that during

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<v Speaker 4>the pandemic, certainly in this country, school shot a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of children that was their main meal.

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<v Speaker 4>And so being in a position of influence and policy,

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<v Speaker 4>what do you feel about the question of child.

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<v Speaker 2>Hunger, of hunger? Yes, well, you know homeless people queuing

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<v Speaker 2>up for food.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I always say to members of Congress, know your why.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll tell people your why. Why do you think you

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<v Speaker 5>should be in Congress? What has motivated you? And my

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<v Speaker 5>why why I went from the kitchen to the Congress,

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<v Speaker 5>from housewives to house speaker, was that one in five

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<v Speaker 5>children in America goes to sleep hungry at night. That

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't I couldn't handle it. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 5>just that we had five children, and you think one

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<v Speaker 5>of these children will not have food, will will go to.

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<v Speaker 3>Sleep hungry at night in America?

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<v Speaker 5>Now and take it globally, and it's sinful, it's sinful

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<v Speaker 5>any place. It's immoral. And that was my motivation and

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<v Speaker 5>all that that implied. If they were hungry, they weren't

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<v Speaker 5>learning to their capacity, they were not feeling that their

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<v Speaker 5>needs were being met, and their families were just not

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<v Speaker 5>able to meet their families' needs, and it is a

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<v Speaker 5>kitchen table issue for some families. Are they going to

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<v Speaker 5>be able to put food on the table, pay the rent,

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<v Speaker 5>pay the utility bill, pay for their children to go

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<v Speaker 5>to school if that required some payment. So the food issue,

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<v Speaker 5>that one in five children living in poverty going to

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<v Speaker 5>sleep hungry at night was my why, and so we

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<v Speaker 5>all every step of the way, have worked for policy

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<v Speaker 5>to alleviate that, to not only supply food, food programs,

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<v Speaker 5>lunch proves and that, but also to improve the standard

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<v Speaker 5>of living of people so that they didn't have to

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<v Speaker 5>choose between paying the rent or feeding their children at

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<v Speaker 5>dinner or taking a turn eating.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you went into Congress, I just will say,

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<v Speaker 4>what was it one in five, how many years ago?

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<v Speaker 3>And it's still the same.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's really what's so tragic, because no matter how

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<v Speaker 5>you try to do one thing and another, all kinds

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<v Speaker 5>of things come along. My also when I went to

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<v Speaker 5>Congress was to fight HIV AIDS, and that was my

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<v Speaker 5>first speech on the floor of the House was about AIDS.

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<v Speaker 5>So you have all these challenges and right now with COVID,

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<v Speaker 5>when we're talking about the southern hemisphere and that people

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<v Speaker 5>are like, I have to worry about feeding my family

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<v Speaker 5>before I worry about what else is going on in

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<v Speaker 5>the world.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's still a challenge. It shouldn't be.

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<v Speaker 5>And again it's it isn't even an issue. It's a value,

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<v Speaker 5>it's an ethic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about way back.

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<v Speaker 4>The concern you know, for looking after children is something

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<v Speaker 4>that is just a years old. It's something that is

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<v Speaker 4>a principle forever. And in a way, it was very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Feeding your children and taking care of them.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we became as we had vats, we knew

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<v Speaker 4>that we had to also educate them and we also

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<v Speaker 4>had to treat them in a certain we had to

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<v Speaker 4>love them, we had to you know, show them different environments.

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<v Speaker 4>But that we still haven't achieved the feeding of children.

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<v Speaker 5>And when you think of it, Ruthie, when you think that,

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<v Speaker 5>when we're raising our own children, it's about nutrition and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, feeding the right thing, and then these.

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<v Speaker 3>Other children.

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<v Speaker 5>We have urban deserts in terms of you go to

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<v Speaker 5>the store and it's all processed food. It's not fresh

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<v Speaker 5>vegetables or fresh fish, this, that and the other thing.

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<v Speaker 5>So these children are not even getting the nutrition even

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<v Speaker 5>if they're getting fed and adults.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Steve McQueen, the director, told me that he

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<v Speaker 4>was in Chicago and there were no vegetable stores in

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<v Speaker 4>poor areas. So it's something that we all need to

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<v Speaker 4>keep working.

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<v Speaker 5>Just for one example, in Flint, Michigan, when they had

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<v Speaker 5>the water crisis, it gives me chills just to even

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<v Speaker 5>think about what it meant for those children. They were

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<v Speaker 5>drinking water that was harmful to them, but not only that,

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<v Speaker 5>it hurt their development in the rest. And we had

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<v Speaker 5>scientists and doctors who would come to us and say,

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<v Speaker 5>the only way out is for these children to have

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<v Speaker 5>fresh food and vegetables.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know all.

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<v Speaker 5>This, and if you go there, there might be one

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<v Speaker 5>store someplace that might not be near where they are,

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<v Speaker 5>whatever it is that would supply that. Now we're getting

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<v Speaker 5>a little more informed that you have to have stores

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<v Speaker 5>that are farmers' markets and things like that where people

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<v Speaker 5>can get fresh food. But it directly related to the

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<v Speaker 5>development of their brains.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is how we should judge a society, and

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<v Speaker 4>that the value we place in the future of our children.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's not only a value, it's an art.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what I was going. We're coming and they're

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<v Speaker 4>all waiting for us upstairs. But before we do, go

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<v Speaker 4>upstairs and eat and talk and greet the people who

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<v Speaker 4>are all waiting for you in London. I would say

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<v Speaker 4>that we agree that food is values, food is an art,

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<v Speaker 4>food is family, food is memories.

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<v Speaker 2>It is also comfort.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's a food and I can probably guess what

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<v Speaker 4>your answer is going to be, but there is a

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<v Speaker 4>food that we turn to when we just need comfort.

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<v Speaker 4>And Nancy Pelosi, my friend, what would be your comfort food?

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<v Speaker 3>Ice cream? Dark, very dark. The older I get, the

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<v Speaker 3>darker the ice cream. I would say that.

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<v Speaker 2>You were ever predictable, but I did predict that answer.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much, thank you, thank you, thank you,

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