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Speaker 2: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 2: Rod and Karen are a hot.

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Speaker 3: My mama was raising the era when clean water was

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Speaker 3: have thought I had helped, but they wasn't satisfied unless

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Speaker 3: I picked the cot and myself. You see, it's broke

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Speaker 3: nigga racism that's that don't touch anything in stot. It's

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Speaker 3: rich nigga racist that's coming in. Please buy mo what

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Speaker 3: you want, A bit lea, a fer coat, adama chain,

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Speaker 3: all you blacks want all the same things used to

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Speaker 3: only beat niggas, but now everybody playing into everything on

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Speaker 4: Hey, welcome to the Blackoutis Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Your host Rod Ed Karen, and we are live on

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Speaker 3: a Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: It still stopped up.

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Speaker 3: Karen still stopped up, but she's in here giving an

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Speaker 5: I really am. I do love y'all.

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Speaker 6: So in case you be like cananvorce, don't sign saying

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Speaker 6: that's why I am drinking some I don't know, cinnamon

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Speaker 6: apple tea, whatever the hell this is.

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Speaker 5: This is delicious.

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Speaker 4: That herbal tea is good.

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Speaker 6: Man, cinnamon stick apple punch, whatever it is, it's good.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: So all kinds of stuff is happening today, so you

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Speaker 3: know we'll be talking about it because that's what he does.

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Speaker 3: The official weapon of the show is an unofficial sport.

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Speaker 4: And bullet ball extreme.

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Speaker 3: And I guess we can just get right into the news.

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Speaker 3: All kinds of stuff is happening, Okay, So I guess

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Speaker 3: first of all, the big news, Uh, Kanye is doing interviews. Uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, he's been promoting his album. He's been saying

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Speaker 3: a lot of wild stuff on Twitter, and you know

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Speaker 3: with the Trump support.

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Speaker 4: Shit and uh the.

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Speaker 3: Uh the you know, the kind of like people trying

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Speaker 3: about it yesterday, and you know, I think one fame

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Speaker 3: is just not It's just like a fish in a

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Speaker 4: Like nobody.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like anyone's in a position to truly

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Speaker 3: reach out to him. And if even if they could,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's only so much you can do with

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Speaker 4: But I feel like he took it to another level today.

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Speaker 3: So you went to TMZ and did uh did like

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Speaker 3: around the interview like an interview with them. He did

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Speaker 4: I've seen some of the quotes. I mean, he talks about.

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Speaker 3: He got addicted to opioids after he got LiPo suction,

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Speaker 3: which is another thing that makes me think about you

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Speaker 3: know that that pressure with his image and his body

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Speaker 3: wonder if that pressure fucks with you, fain, because like

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Speaker 3: every time you see Kanye put on any weight or something,

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Speaker 3: Shit fucks with him. And then uh so he got

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Speaker 3: Like It's just all over the place. And it's been

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Speaker 3: They he went there, dude, do.

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Speaker 7: You feel like I'm being free and I'm thinking free?

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Speaker 4: Actually actually, oh wait, this is actually the second clip.

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Speaker 3: that people made, Black people made for four hundred years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the one that said everything up.

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Speaker 8: I don't think people necessarily understand what happened last week

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Speaker 8: with the Great America, make America a great again? Hat

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Speaker 8: What are you trying to do with the message you're sending?

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Speaker 7: Well, it was really just my subconscious It was a

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Speaker 7: feeling I had, you know, like people were taught how

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Speaker 7: to think, we're taught how to feel. We don't know

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Speaker 7: how to think for ourselves. We don't know how to

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Speaker 7: feel for ourselves. People say feel free, but they don't

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Speaker 7: really want us to feel free. And I felt a

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Speaker 4: Not to do. I just love Trump. That's my boy.

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Speaker 4: Like you know, it's like so many rappers.

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Speaker 7: You'll look at a video or Snoop Dog loving Trump,

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Speaker 7: but then he get into office and out ain't love

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Speaker 7: him like Trump is one of Rap's favorite people.

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Speaker 8: Right, But we talked about this before.

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Speaker 3: One of the things I think that's interesting here the

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, where does that cutoff start? Like,

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Speaker 3: And the ultimate example of that is the black people

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Speaker 3: and these white people have it right. And it's always

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Speaker 4: Like the free thinkers are Jason Whitlock and.

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Speaker 3: Stacy Dash and Candice always, and it's always just somebody

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Speaker 3: like it's not like like it's not like these things

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Speaker 4: He was elected president.

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Speaker 5: People in hip hop, it was it was an end

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Speaker 4: Put Donald Trump in your rhyme somewhere.

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Speaker 7: And by the way, i am in hip hop, but

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Speaker 7: I'm not just in hip hop. I'm a black person

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Speaker 7: in black community, but I'm not just that. I feel

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Speaker 7: artists hip hop, uh, black community. Yeah, I'm always gonna

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's another thing that's weird, that that minimizing

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Speaker 3: But I think in this current iteration to Kanye West,

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Speaker 7: You know, slavery for four hundred years, for four hundred years,

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Speaker 7: that sound like a choice.

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Speaker 4: Represent the world.

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Speaker 7: When you hear about slavery for four hundred years, for

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Speaker 7: four hundred years, that sound like a choice, Like you

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Speaker 7: you know, like it's like we're mentally in prison. I

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Speaker 3: You feel okay? So in that situation, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: Right, But but but his idea is everybody wasn't slaves.

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Speaker 3: But prison is a concept we all can understand. So

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Speaker 3: if I say you need to break out of your

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Speaker 4: Correct you see what I'm saying. That's why I think

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Speaker 3: He was trying to make an analogy of being trapped

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Speaker 4: That's what I took from it.

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Speaker 3: That being said, you can't say that about slavery.

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Speaker 4: That's ridiculous. It reminds me, you know what that sounds

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Speaker 4: like to me, that Eddie Murphy. I ain't hooked up

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's fucked up, but they don't call niggas

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Speaker 7: Shit, kill me the bad something motherfucking cotton.

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Speaker 4: Nigga baire this cotton host this suck my dick, master.

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Speaker 7: Shuck my motherfucker did. That's right.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't like that.

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Speaker 7: The first dude that got off the boat said that

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Speaker 4: Fuck you motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: Other motherfucker said, we'll batling shit, just keep going, Just

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Speaker 3: I got off the Mother's like a plane walked up,

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Speaker 4: Like this little white ude walk them said that's your bag.

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Speaker 4: This, I ain't my ancestors.

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Speaker 3: There was so many forms of resistance, not just violent forms.

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Speaker 4: It's just a very ill informed thing to say.

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Speaker 3: Man, Like I just I don't feel like, I know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how. I don't know another way to

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Speaker 3: I mean as much as people ship on the Kardashians,

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Speaker 3: So I can't imagine what it's like to have a

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Speaker 5: Said Kim and Kim Now I say him and Kim.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as far as him, and I was about to

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Speaker 3: They seem to have I mean, that's the mother of

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Speaker 4: They seem to have like despite.

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Speaker 3: for them to just be like, it's this, But I

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Speaker 3: don't know, man, mental health shit is different. You know,

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Speaker 3: don't know, we don't know what. That's a lot to

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Speaker 3: I go beyond like a mama's love. Like some of

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Speaker 3: this shit might be like being on your meds or

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Speaker 3: not being on your mans. Some of this might be

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Speaker 3: might be, you know, being triggered by all its pressure

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Speaker 4: Like, I just can't imagine.

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Speaker 3: Being in those shoes, because I don't think it's as

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Speaker 3: right now. I don't think that's as simple as what

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Speaker 3: it doesn't seem very thought out, Like at least when

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Speaker 3: Like it's almost amoral. She don't care about black people,

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Speaker 3: it by being on Fox News every week because white

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Speaker 3: fucked up. I still judge that choice. But this is

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Speaker 3: something different. He's not desperate for money, he's not desert

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Speaker 3: for attention. These ideas are not thought out at all.

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Speaker 3: They're a historical they're a factual. If you do any

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Speaker 3: this is not Obviously, this is not true. Black people

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Speaker 3: definitely didn't fucking h just just just it's I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's almost laughable. But it's like black people did not

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Speaker 5: I know, you know what I want to be today for.

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Speaker 4: Four hundred years.

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Speaker 3: It's a choice I made every day I wake up,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna just be a slave, you know. So it's

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Speaker 3: not like I don't I believe that right now he

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Speaker 3: the statements, songs, things he's done in the past, I

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Speaker 3: just refuse to believe. And maybe it's me, you know,

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Speaker 3: too much empathy. People probably out there rolling their eyes now,

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Speaker 3: I think he having like a breakdown or some shit,

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Speaker 3: you know. And it's and it's in a room full

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Speaker 3: of jackals, No nobody, No one's gonna nobody truly care

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Speaker 4: Dude in that room when.

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Speaker 3: They got the cameras on, because like this, they're just

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Speaker 3: their dicks are getting hard, like, look how many clicks

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Speaker 3: we're gonna get?

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Speaker 7: You know, feel that I'm feeling, dude, do you feel

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Speaker 7: that I'm being free and I'm thinking free?

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Speaker 2: I actually, I actually don't think you're thinking anything.

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Speaker 3: I think now, this is a black dude that works

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Speaker 3: at TMZ that is clearly trying to get the MVP award,

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Speaker 3: okay because he's he's at work, and I feel like

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Speaker 3: a lot of people would have just let that shit cook.

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Speaker 3: Because Kanye stood up and addressed the entirety of the

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Speaker 3: I do have something to say.

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Speaker 4: I actually don't think you're thinking anything.

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Speaker 2: I think what you're doing right now is actually the

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Speaker 2: absence of thought. And the reason why I feel like

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Speaker 2: that is because Kanye, You're entitled to your opinion.

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Speaker 4: You're entitled to believe whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: But there is fact, in real world, real life consequence

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Speaker 4: While you are making music and.

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Speaker 2: Being an artist and living the life that you've earned

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Speaker 4: With these threats to our lives.

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Speaker 2: We have to deal with the marginalization has come from

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Speaker 2: our people was a choice. Frankly, I'm disappointed. I'm appalled,

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Speaker 4: Kanye came over to her.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be responsible, man, Bro, I'm sorry, I got you.

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Speaker 4: You gotta be responsible. I'm Sorrymidt.

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Speaker 3: That was the end of the clip, But yeah, I

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Speaker 3: And it's weird because I understand the other side of

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Speaker 4: It's offensive, it's fucked up.

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Speaker 3: He's aiding and abetting a lot of racist people that

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Speaker 3: and we've been in fight fight most since November twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 3: if not much longer. And this is just another slap

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Speaker 3: but I don't. This just seemed like a another Kanye

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Speaker 3: be callaous to look from afar and be like I

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Speaker 3: think something's going on with this person, but I don't

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Speaker 3: know what else to say, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 3: how do you have something else to say about this shit?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 4: Like when I first saw the clip, I almost like I.

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Speaker 3: Laughed out loud, not out of like, oh that black

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Speaker 3: dude told him, but because I was just like, I

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Speaker 5: Them right, oh, how to properly respond to him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And then later when I when I watched it

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Speaker 4: I'm like this sad man, cause like who would help

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Speaker 3: We stayed trying to put I mean, every every person

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Speaker 3: this is not to say Kanye was the wokest nigga

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Speaker 3: before all this, Like Kanye got his shoes too, Like

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Speaker 3: this is you know, I'm not trying to You can't

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Speaker 4: You can still be an asshole and be.

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Speaker 3: Dealing with mental issues and shit like that. It's not that,

439
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 3: but this shit right here just feels different to me.

440
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 3: And that's that's just the best way I can put it.

441
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 3: So I don't you know, And I mean people are

442
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 3: interested in everything, and I think because he went away

443
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 3: for a while, it almost.

444
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,120
Speaker 4: Makes people more interested.

445
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 3: Correct, you know what I'm saying, Like because he did

446
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 3: take that break, it's like ooh, Kanye's back and he

447
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,239
Speaker 3: acted crazy. Yes, yes, just what I want, just what

448
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 3: the society wants, like as opposed to like that next

449
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 3: level of empathy you would have to have to be

450
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 3: like I don't think this.

451
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 5: Is healthy, right, That's why I mean, I don't think

452
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 5: it's healthy.

453
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like this don't feel this doesn't feel like just

454
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 3: Kanye being provocative. This feel like some other shit man,

455
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 3: you know, and with all that workload and shit, I really.

456
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 4: Hope because I think one of the things.

457
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 3: People talk about, and like I said, I don't know

458
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 3: what issues necessarily has, I know it, you know, but

459
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 3: one of the things people talk about the manic state

460
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,959
Speaker 3: is for a lot of people, they feel like their

461
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: creativity comes from the manick state. And sometimes people will

462
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 3: go off mans to reach the manic state, cause like

463
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 3: oh my, my creativity can't flow unless I am out

464
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 3: here like like beyond the limits of my mind almost.

465
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 3: I hope that's not what it is, man, Because like

466
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 3: when he was mentioning all that shit he was working on,

467
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,719
Speaker 3: and it was just like project, got the project at

468
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 3: the project, I'm like, when do you even have a time,

469
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, Like, that's such a workload.

470
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do nas out. I'm doing it joint our Cuddy,

471
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 3: I got the new shoes coming, I'm gonna do this.

472
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 3: It was just like, okay, you know when the facts

473
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 3: were wrong about like his shoe brand and like it's

474
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 3: the number one shoe in the country. I make the

475
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 3: most money off shoes to anybody. I do this, I'm like, man,

476
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 3: this don't don't like that. In text, your like this

477
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: don't sound right. But maybe it's just Kanye being Kanye.

478
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: When you see the video, it's hard to just it's

479
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: Kanye being Kanye. It's hard dog Like he said some

480
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: things are foreign interviews where I'm just like, yeah, he's eccentric.

481
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 4: What's wrong with that?

482
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 5: Right?

483
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 3: You know, when he's called himself a genius, so he

484
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 3: says I'm the voice of a generation. You know, a

485
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 3: lot of time he be right. I'm like, Kanye kind

486
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 3: of is the voice of a generation. I don't like,

487
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 3: are we mad at him for being a genius for

488
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 3: saying do you not think he's a genius? Or you

489
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 3: just mad that he said to himself? But then moments

490
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 3: like this, I'm just like, I don't know, bro anyway, man,

491
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 3: that's kind of depressing.

492
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 7: Dog.

493
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 4: I I just hope everything works out with that dude, man, because.

494
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what's gonna happen, you know, And if

495
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 3: it's something where you get a down to match or high, like,

496
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 3: if it's one of those things, who knows what the

497
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 3: down would be from this shit, you know, cause it

498
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 3: this didn't seem like he was joking around to me.

499
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 3: You know, maybe other people feel that way, but it didn't,

500
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 3: you know. And I'm sure there's people that are way

501
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 3: more versed in mental health arenas that can discuss this shit.

502
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 3: But like I said, we're probably pissing off. I'm probably

503
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: pissing all kinds of people off because I don't know

504
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: the rules to talking about this shit. But I hope,

505
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 3: I hope, I hope he's okay. That's what I mainly

506
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: took from that video.

507
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 6: I hope he's okay. And my biggest thing and that

508
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 6: I wish for everybody. I hope he finds peace, you know,

509
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 6: because it's one of those things where it's just so

510
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 6: much going on, and you know, sometimes it's okay to

511
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 6: say something just it just don't look right, you know,

512
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 6: and you don't have to diagnose it of give it

513
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 6: a name, but you're going this right, this behavior does

514
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 6: not look white.

515
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like cause anyone that's even read or seen anything

516
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 3: about slavery would be like, come on, man, like that

517
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 3: was a big thing, like where whereas the Internet social

518
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: media is more like ha ha. This nigga said this, Well,

519
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: let me tell y'all about slavery. Let me tell y'all

520
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 3: what the acts of resistance black people have. I was like,

521
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 3: I don't even feel like this about being a teachable moment,

522
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 3: Like he just don't know. I feel like he just

523
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 3: in a place where it's not even registering his brain

524
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 3: right now, Like he really is like that Eddie Murphy

525
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 3: joke in his mind, you know.

526
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 4: So I hope I hope you okay.

527
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: Bro.

528
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 3: That's because I just can't see nobody with that much

529
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 3: money and power and notoriety. I can't see anybody helping

530
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 3: him that he won't allow to help other than maybe

531
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 3: his close family because, like I said, his friends and shit,

532
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: he actively blowing up these spots.

533
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 4: For trying to help.

534
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 3: So hopefully the people in that house see more than

535
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: just a fucking checking it. And the thing is these moments,

536
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 3: I don't be feeling like this is like oh, Kim

537
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 3: and them trying to like get money for the show.

538
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 3: They don't be putting this shit on TV, you know

539
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 3: what I mean? Like this ain't this is not keeping

540
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 3: up with the Kardashians type shit. There's some other ship

541
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 3: Like keeping on with the Kardashians is boring basically, but

542
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: people keep watching it. You know, we got sandwiches today

543
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: and then you know, play some quirky music. Yeah yeah,

544
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 3: but even with that, that's not every week. It's like

545
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: like they keep a lot of reality off the show.

546
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: It's a lot of like should we or should we

547
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: not get ice cream? And they'll make thirty minutes out

548
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: of that. Yeah, mental health breakdown is not really their thing.

549
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: How much of that ship with lamar Odom happened off screen?

550
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 3: Like they tried to have the fun cool shit on

551
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 3: TV and then it's this drug addiction ship, which everyone

552
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: did want to see that shit, they're not putting it

553
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: on TV, so I don't think it's I don't think

554
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 3: they're I don't think this is all like stage for

555
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: TV and shit, it just feels like some other show.

556
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 3: I don't think it's for the album any Even the

557
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: songs he put out last week sound hello Rush, it's not.

558
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: He just made those up last week and they weren't good,

559
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, which made me be like, this,

560
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 3: ain't it don't seem like a plan. You know what

561
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 3: I mean, It's not He said that, and then he

562
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: dropped like I don't know power or some shit, and

563
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: you go, God damn. He had this plan from the beginning,

564
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 3: like somedly he threw something together and in four or

565
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: five days and was like, oh wait till they heard

566
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 3: on Friday, they'll finally understand.

567
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 4: Anyway, Uh, school.

568
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: Backtracks on plan for modesty ponchos at the prom.

569
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 4: And there's that time of year, yep, it's prom time.

570
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 3: Time for people to make uh young teen girls feel

571
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: bad about their bodies, right, and that and the fact

572
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: that men can't help but be attracted to him, all right,

573
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 3: and It.

574
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 5: Makes me mad.

575
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 6: I mean, it just does, because it's one of those

576
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 6: things where it's always something come out. You send a

577
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 6: home because she was too big, you send a home

578
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 6: because her body, you know, and a lot of times

579
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 6: it's targeted towards black.

580
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 3: Black, young brown woe I think is yeah, it's definitely

581
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 3: targeted towards women that people associate with sex, right, And

582
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 3: it makes.

583
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 6: Me mad because you can have a white a white

584
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 6: girl or or like or like not even a white girl,

585
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 6: like a almost like a more of a straight framed

586
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 6: person with the curvy person wearing the exact same dress.

587
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 5: But you're gonna get two.

588
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 6: Different responses out of it, right, because of the way

589
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 6: that their body is shaped. And that's development and shit

590
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 6: like that. And the thing about it. As a young woman,

591
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 6: you already are dealing with body issues. You deal with

592
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 6: titties and ass and all this shit. You got hormones

593
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 6: and pimples. You deal with a lot of shit, and

594
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 6: then for somebody to come in and bars you at

595
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 6: one of your biggest events at that age. You know,

596
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 6: the prom is big for a lot of people at

597
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 6: that age. So you're planning for this event. You get

598
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 6: your dressed together, give it ain't together for you to

599
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 6: get there, and you can't get in, or they want

600
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 6: to want to cover you up. But you know what,

601
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 6: what I don't see y'all giving out panchos to Dick Prince.

602
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 5: What the fuck are we talking about here? Is not

603
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 5: the same.

604
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 10: Administrator is a divine child. They're using what they're calling

605
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 10: a modesty puncho. It's a piece of fabric, some of

606
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 10: them colorful with patterns that they'll be handing out at

607
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 10: prom if the girls dresses don't meet their requirements.

608
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 11: I do believe that the school has gone very far

609
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 11: with us.

610
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 10: This divine child student didn't want her name or face

611
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 10: out there. She's worried about pushback from her school for

612
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 10: speaking out against a new prompt policy, the so called

613
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 10: modesty punch.

614
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 4: They're gonna put a scarlet letter, right.

615
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 5: So you're gonna have and everybody gonna know what the

616
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 5: fuck it is.

617
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 10: Right, Chris, you're on mannequins around the Catholic school.

618
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 11: Let's walk into prom. We are to shake hands with

619
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 11: all the teachers and as you walk through, if a

620
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 11: teacher deems that your dress isn't appropriate, you will be

621
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 11: given a poncho at the door.

622
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 10: She says it's a form of shaming.

623
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 11: What will happen to others who and speak out against it.

624
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 10: The school already requires students and parents to sign off

625
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 10: on a detailed agreement of dressed guidelines for the dance

626
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 10: next month. The poncho is an add on this year

627
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 10: that theology teacher Mary Pat O'Malley came up with.

628
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 9: We are trying to focus on the inner beauty of

629
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 9: people and not draw attention to something that doesn't really

630
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 9: need to have attention drawn to it.

631
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 10: She says, the mannequin's dawning the ponchos is to give

632
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 10: girls enough time to get address that fits their parameters.

633
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 9: Was really intended as a deterrence, and a very lighthearted

634
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 9: one at that.

635
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 10: O'Malley and the high school principle tell us parents haven't complained,

636
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 10: but the interpretation of this by at least some parents

637
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 10: isn't good.

638
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 6: It's a method of shaming, method of bullying, method of degrading,

639
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 6: degrading the females.

640
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 10: This student, who talk with Fox two, says her classmate

641
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 10: was disciplined for taking to social media to voice complaints

642
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 10: about the policy. The administration could not confirm nor deny

643
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 10: that she already knows what she's going to do if

644
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 10: she's handed one of these modesty ponchos.

645
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 11: I would refuse a pancho. And if I'm not able

646
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 11: to attend my problem, then that is fine. I would

647
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 11: be okay with going to dinner somewhere else dressed up.

648
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 10: In dearborn Jessica do nac Fox two News.

649
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 4: It's also about control, too, right, And the problem I

650
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 4: have with.

651
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 6: This, why does me, as a student and have to

652
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 6: come to a prom and fucking shake every administrator hand,

653
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 6: So basically every teacher that's there has.

654
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 5: Got to gaze and looking.

655
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 6: I'll go at my fucking body in my goddamn dress

656
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 6: for why, nigga for why? And the thing is, when

657
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 6: it comes to it is up to the person's individual discretion.

658
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 6: Like you can say no crop tops, notice no that.

659
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 6: But if I'm a person with big ass titties, you

660
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 6: gonna see them titties. Everybody go see them. Tit this

661
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 6: it's gonna be a problem. I'm pressed with a big

662
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 6: old lass. I could be within a dress code. But

663
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 6: if you feel like it is too appropriately or your

664
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 6: dick get heart is motherfucking problem, don't do this.

665
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, even the fact that she didn't want to get

666
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: an interview on camera showing her face like that, like

667
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: the amount of slut shaving and shit that they would

668
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: have done. Oh, she's one of those. She want to wear,

669
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: she want to wear her dress a certain way. She

670
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: must be a slut, you know. And it's all about

671
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: a matter of controlling a women's bodies, controlling girls' bodies,

672
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 3: and those ideas live within women for the rest of

673
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: their lives in many cases.

674
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 7: You know.

675
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 4: It's one of the reasons that we always talk about how.

676
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: Women can be complicit in patriarchy and misogyny and shit

677
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: as well.

678
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 4: Well, what did they learn it from? Shit like school?

679
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 4: And you just never question it.

680
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: I mean no offense to religious people, not trying to

681
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: not it, but it just so happens. They're learning it

682
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: the same place you learn not to question religion, you

683
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: know what I mean? It is this way because we

684
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: told you it's this way. Okay, Well, what other things

685
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: are you teaching me outside of that? Well, also, you

686
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: can got to dress a certain way. Also, certain gender

687
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: roles within your relationships also sexually need to be this way.

688
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 4: It's a lot of.

689
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: Shit that we learned from these unquestioned these sources that

690
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: are unquestionable, or you're a bad Christian, You're a bad

691
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: person for daring to be Like, I hear what you said,

692
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: but I feel like that's just one choice you can

693
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: make in life, and it not the be all end all.

694
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: Don't become a bad person because I choose not to

695
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: have a monogamous marriage, or because I'm lgbt Q, or

696
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: because I have sex before marriage or something. I'm not

697
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 3: a bad person. You don't get to put that label

698
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: on me. And this is part of that shit to me,

699
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: is this idea of you your teddies were out, how

700
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: dare you?

701
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 4: Well?

702
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I gotta put on Pancho, I gotta shake

703
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: everybody's hand. I gotta get this, you know what I mean?

704
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: Like this mentality stripped into me already. Now supposedly they're

705
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: backing off of this, okay, so uh supposedly like they

706
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 3: got enough.

707
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 6: Somebody complaint for golf, right, I bet you it was

708
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 6: probably pushed around people try to start to stand, hey,

709
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 6: I'm going to boycott the Prime or people was like,

710
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 6: you know what, hey, let's let's do let's hold out

711
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 6: host our own events outside of the Prime.

712
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 5: On the same day and fuck them.

713
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the parents a lot of times

714
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: don't feel the need to complain because a lot of

715
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 3: parents are also complicit in us.

716
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 5: Yes they are.

717
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 4: Like the reason I sent.

718
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: You towards Christian School is so because I don't want

719
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: you to act you know, quote unquote secular. You know, anyway,

720
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 3: it's a microwave, a stove, a hot dog, a meal.

721
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: The answer could affect hundreds at South Carolina bars. What

722
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 3: there are no bars in South Carolina. Care those beachfront

723
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: tiki bars, backwards roadhouses and big selic city dive bars.

724
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 4: Now we've been to places that appear to be bars

725
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 4: in South Carolina.

726
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 5: Yeah right, I'm looking at you like nigga.

727
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 4: What they're not bars at all? Care? There are restaurants,

728
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 4: all of them.

729
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 3: Only service in restaurants at hotels can mix a cocktail

730
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 3: or poor or a shot in South Carolina. But critics

731
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: say that many establishments have skirted the law with state

732
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: regulators consent by heating up a hot dog in a

733
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 3: microwave or offering another minimal fare.

734
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 4: So if you offer any little bit of food at all.

735
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 3: Then they say, because there's no the bars are illegal

736
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: in South Carolina. Okay, you cannot have an establishment that

737
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: only is.

738
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 4: A bar.

739
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 5: Alcohol.

740
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 4: Yes, so what you need to do is say you

741
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 4: serve food.

742
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: So then they'll say, we heat it up a hot

743
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: dog in a microwave, and now.

744
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 4: That counts it's food.

745
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: Well, now, a challenge to the liquor licenses to two

746
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 3: bars in Columbia's five points could change all of that.

747
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: A South Carolina Administrator's Court judge is ruled that a

748
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: microwave does not constitute a kitchen and heating up a

749
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: hot dog does not constitute preparing a meal. If Judge

750
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 3: Deborah Durden's April ruling holes what are told through what

751
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: are expected to be a string of appeals up to

752
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: and including the South Carolina Supreme Court, the whole drinking

753
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 3: landscape of the Palmetto State could change.

754
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 5: What the fuck is wrong with the Why do you care?

755
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 4: Because it's a goddamn hater out there, Karen?

756
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 6: Why if they serving me food, it's a motherfucker. If

757
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 6: I pay for it.

758
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 5: It is a meal.

759
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:24,479
Speaker 3: There's a man called Dick Harpoutlini or Harpootlian. He says,

760
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: I'm trying to clean up five points. He's leading a crusade.

761
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: By neighbors living around Five Points district to reverse the

762
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: spread of late night college bars. If this causes ripples

763
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 3: across the state, that's not my problem. So he got

764
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: they got tired of living around these college hooligans, fucking

765
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: up their lawns, pissing on shit, throwing up all over

766
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 3: the place.

767
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: You know how college kids doing. They get drunk.

768
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: They live in a college town, and they said, you

769
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: know what, enough of this shit. Y'all shouldn't even be

770
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 3: able to serve alcohol because you're not restaurants.

771
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: So that's what happened.

772
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 3: They challenged the liquor license for nords of a dozen

773
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 3: or more late night Five Points bars that mostly catered

774
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 3: the University of South Carolina students, many of whom are

775
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: under age and use fake id's, Which makes sense because

776
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 3: you know this, this is more money for those towns, right,

777
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: So I guarantee they looked the other way under my

778
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: d's Come on the.

779
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 6: Throw that extra revenue. You're about to fuck people money up.

780
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 6: People gonna fight you against this. You can't be sucking

781
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 6: up the money.

782
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 3: The throngs are students who gather in the bars after midnight,

783
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 3: result in vangelism, violence, public drunkeness and lurd behavior, the

784
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: neighbors claim. The legal balance. The legal battle now is

785
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: focused on the liquor stores or too late night bar

786
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 3: I mean liquor licenses. Are two late night bars, the

787
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: Five Points russ currently which is formerly the Carolina Poorhouse,

788
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: and Rooftop Bar, both intensively owned by the same people.

789
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: The Roos has already been denied a liquor license in

790
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 3: part for not meeting the kitchen and.

791
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 4: Food requirements, but will appeal.

792
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 3: According to the owner's attorney, Mike Montgomery, Oh so yeah, man.

793
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 6: So basically they forced was like, if you're gonna be

794
00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 6: you gotta have like a full kid.

795
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 5: And so we got out like a stove and the

796
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 5: friars and all.

797
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: The refrigerator and all the regulations that come along with

798
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: having a kitchen and health inspection.

799
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 4: And you're don't cost.

800
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 6: The food like you're going to cost them a bunch

801
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 6: of unnecessary extra fees and they're not willing to bang.

802
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 4: So yep, that's uh, that's wild. Now.

803
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: I just think South Carolina, because the revenue is already there,

804
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: would probably just pass a lot saying you can have

805
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: bars after that.

806
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 4: But who knows. You know, this disrupting the entire state ecosystem.

807
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 6: Right, So you have other places because that's not the

808
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 6: only quote unquote college towns. Other might not be as big,

809
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 6: but other you know, universities in the state of South Carolina.

810
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 6: There's these little college towns and theyga like, well, now

811
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 6: something you fucking up down money, our revenue, our source

812
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 6: of income.

813
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 4: Cynthia and Nixon, the Sex and the City former actress.

814
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: She is running for governor of New York Ork and

815
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 3: she hired our girl l Joy Williams.

816
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 5: Yay political strategies.

817
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 4: Uh huh.

818
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: She fights for was right whether it's day or night.

819
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 3: L Joy Williams, what you know about Uh?

820
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 5: We love el Joy.

821
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: Shout out to the homie Elon James making that song right,

822
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: mm hmm y'all y'all try to y'all try to throw

823
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 3: him into y'all tried to cancel him, throw them in

824
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 3: the trash, but he's still around.

825
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 4: Mm hm uh. Anyway, l Joy.

826
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: Is now joining Syntha Nixon's Good Notario campaign as a

827
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: senior advisor, making decisions on everything from voter outreach, policy, fundraising,

828
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 3: and communications.

829
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 4: So I'm good. That's you know, friend of the show.

830
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: You know met her at the DNC when it was

831
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 3: in Charlotte in like two thousand and I don't know.

832
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 4: Eight or so, and uh, yeah, it was. It was.

833
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: She's a really cool person, really nice to know her. Uh.

834
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 3: She our own podcast called Civic Sunday. If you guys

835
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: are trying to get civically engaged so serious, she's yeah,

836
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 3: it's a great podcast, a great place to listen. And uh,

837
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: this is the reason that we always said we did

838
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 3: not want to have her on the show too much.

839
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 5: No, we couldn't do that. Her and her in June

840
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 5: and her and day over there doing the thing.

841
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: Imagine the clips they would have with her playing against

842
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: the race and nope, and they and they'd be trying

843
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 3: to destroy Cynthia Nixon's campaign chances by just being like,

844
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 3: what about that time, miss miss Williams, what about that

845
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: time you said it was a Pickanninny? Is this who

846
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 3: you won't reading it out to the black community.

847
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 6: No, No, that that's why we love el Joy from

848
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 6: Afar and we tell her to go and get it.

849
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 5: You're gonna be somebody.

850
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 3: When you said the answer was whiter than the sheets

851
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: to KKK, where you really think you're the choice to

852
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 3: help the New York governor.

853
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 4: Out't think so mm hmm.

854
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 6: She's gonna be somebody to govin and senate a male

855
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 6: president somewhere.

856
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 4: Nope, they would have found him.

857
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 5: We're not gonna be the reason why.

858
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: I'm a matter of fact, I'm gonna find all the

859
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: old episodes she was on and just put them behind

860
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: the paywall.

861
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 5: Come on, not for free, you won't you gonna pay?

862
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 3: All right, let's see what else we can talk about.

863
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm happy for her. Man Sierra said future

864
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 3: missus visits with their son a lot.

865
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 4: He missed the scheduled visits thirty seven percent of the time.

866
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 5: That's a lot.

867
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 3: I mean, look sixty three percent of the time he

868
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: make it. It just depending on how you look at it.

869
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: I mean it could be a positive.

870
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 6: Hmm.

871
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 5: You miss a lot.

872
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

873
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

874
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: That's the thing though. The bar solo for men, right right.

875
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

876
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 4: I saw people really.

877
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 3: Defending this, like, well, let's travel, he busy he doing this.

878
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, for all y'all that.

879
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 4: Really take up for that dude and vilify Siaarra.

880
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 3: When they had their custody shit and they were in

881
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 3: court and shit, A lot of people vilified that woman.

882
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: A lot of people made it.

883
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: Seem like she was being an evil bitch trying to

884
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 3: keep him away from his kid, and they turned it

885
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 3: into money conversation. You just doing this for child support

886
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: me while she's worth more than this nigga and married

887
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 3: to a nigga that's working more than this nigga. And

888
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 3: then when that dog don't hunt, it's just well, you know,

889
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: these evil bitches keeping people away from their kids. And

890
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 3: then you turn around, it's like, well, here's the schedule,

891
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: and we got to go back to court because he

892
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 3: ain't seeing this kid most of the time. She said't

893
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: caunsel at the last minute. Imagine it's your kid, man,

894
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 3: Imagine that's your daddy. You ain't no daddy conna get

895
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 3: you in. It's a fifty to fifty chance this nigga coming.

896
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 4: M mm.

897
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: So she said, the recall the conflicts with her schedule

898
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 3: because you have to wait he's supposed to come get

899
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: the kids. So you're making plans for stuff without the kid.

900
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 3: Probably this nigga don't show up half the time. And

901
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: now you got the kid and you gotta figure out

902
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 3: what you're gonna do. And then furthermore, he reportedly leaves

903
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: his son with his grandmother and or a great grandmother

904
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 3: in Atlanta, thus Sierra's unable to FaceTime the child. More

905
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 3: of what Sierra says that some future has health issues

906
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: that are worse than by constant travel. Frequent trips also

907
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: reportedly leave him exhausted, resulting an emotional breakdowns to school.

908
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 4: Si y'all is not asking for adults.

909
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 6: They're not trying to find it difficult for adults to

910
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 6: do a lot of traveling, so imagine what it does

911
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 6: to a child.

912
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

913
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 3: She's asking for mediation to work on improving their son's schedule,

914
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 3: So we'll see. But yeah, I saw people already trying

915
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 3: to figure a way out to make this her fault too.

916
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 5: And like I said, I feel about this.

917
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 6: I'm tired of people, and not only not in the future,

918
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 6: but just the Baltics had for men. It is just

919
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 6: so low. I'm tired of people supporting ain't shit men.

920
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 6: Everything they do is god to be some other fucking excuse.

921
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 6: But when it comes to the woman, it is a

922
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 6: fucking row tolerance. Fuck you, I mean it's literally a

923
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 6: zero tolerance.

924
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 5: I'm tired. Fuck you bitch, get out here and do something.

925
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 5: I'm mentally drained. Fuck you bitch, you know.

926
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 6: And then the thing that really frustrates me about all

927
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 6: this is that ownership that men feel like they have

928
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 6: old women bodies And if I put my penis in

929
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 6: you one time, I fucking own you forever. Not so

930
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 6: you know, if I'm not fucking you, you're not supposed

931
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 6: to fuck nobody else. That's not so either you don't

932
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 6: own me nor my body. Sierra actually moved on, got

933
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 6: another man, got married, but she's still a whole I like,

934
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 6: like shit like that just makes me mad because and

935
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 6: it lets me know that there's a whole lot of

936
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 6: ain't shit niggas. So for women that I single out

937
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 6: here online, pay attention to what these niggas is putting

938
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 6: out and posting out there online. Pay attention to how

939
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 6: they talk about women, how they talk about their mamas

940
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 6: and their aunts and their uncles and they sisters. Pay

941
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 6: that shit attention because what they say, they think the

942
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 6: same with the thing about you.

943
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 5: You are not above it.

944
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 3: Yep, everything you just said art was getting to our

945
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: next section. Just fucking with those black people. Were just

946
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: fucking with those blacks. We're just fucking with fucking with

947
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 3: black people. That's right, guys, it's time to play the

948
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 3: game we all hate to play. It's fucking with black people.

949
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 4: The game.

950
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,959
Speaker 3: We go all around the globe, we find different articles

951
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: to make us feel fucked with them. Willis sign points

952
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: scores from zero to one hundred in intervals of twenty

953
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: five Today's contestants. Everybody, all right, let's do it.

954
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 4: Everybody. Context matters.

955
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: People are coming to Easter Ray's defense at the folks

956
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: try to call her out for a passage on dating

957
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: from her twenty fifteen book. So, she had a book

958
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 3: called The Misadventures of Awkward Black Girl. She published it

959
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 3: three years ago, and someone took a took a screenshot

960
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 3: of the physical book that they were reading, and they

961
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: circled the passage that was talking about dating. Okay, and

962
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 3: if you read the whole page, and if you read

963
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: the read the book, some of what she says is comical, satirical.

964
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: Obviously it's Easter Ray. She's you know, the book is

965
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 3: also comedy, right anyway, So I'll just read some of it.

966
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: The page stars educated black women are too high maintenance,

967
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 3: how strong and independent, they don't need men. There is

968
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 3: a widening gap between the education of Black women and men,

969
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 3: which doesn't leave many suitable suitors. Unfortunately, the higher ones

970
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: degree as a Black woman, the lowyer chances are getting married.

971
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 3: Add On to the compound the stereotypes of being loud, complicated,

972
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 3: and difficult Black women, Your reputation sucks. Asian men are

973
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 3: also overburdened with racial stereotypes that don't really work in

974
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: their favors. Why wouldn't women want to marry and reproduce

975
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: with men who are classified as intelligent, hard workers. Maybe

976
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: because Asian men are frequently emasculated in the media or

977
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 3: presented as sexless props for comedic relief. Oh if only

978
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 3: they could absorb the burden of black male stereotypes gen

979
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 3: to tell your exaggerations included, maybe they're demand would increase.

980
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 4: Maybe that would make all the difference.

981
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 3: Instead, the plight of Asian men is nearly the same

982
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 3: as that a Black women, except for the fact that

983
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 3: their women tend to marry white and or the other

984
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 3: far more often. In fact, Asian Americans have the highest

985
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 3: rate of inter marriage.

986
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 4: Asian men. Your reputation sucks too.

987
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: This is why I propose that Black women and Asian

988
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 3: men join forces in love marriage and procreation. Educated black

989
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: women that better. What better intellectual match for you than

990
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 3: an Asian man. And I'm not talking about Filipinos, they're

991
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: the blacks of Asians. I'm talking Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese, et cetera.

992
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 3: According to the twenty ten cents, his Koreans are more

993
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 3: inclined to marry black than any other Asian groups. So

994
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: black women at the college, maybe it's a good idea

995
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 3: to settle in Los Angeles or anywhere else where.

996
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 4: Korean town is a hotspot.

997
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 3: Asian man, your women are ditching you at an alarming rate.

998
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 3: And it goes on to be like, yeah, just why

999
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: we need black men and Asian women.

1000
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 4: Black women and Asian men need to get together.

1001
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 7: Now.

1002
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 3: It's tongue in cheek, A lot of it said in jest.

1003
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 3: I can even I can hear. I felt the cringe

1004
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 3: at the Filipinos are the blacks of Asians, which you know,

1005
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 3: I cringed the same way when Donald Glover said in

1006
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 3: his rap back in the day where he was like,

1007
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 3: I love black girls of every single culture. Filipino are many,

1008
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: and women on a sofa. You're like, hmm, that's not

1009
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 3: the same as being a black girl. But okay, but

1010
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 3: it's like a it's but even that Donald Glover line

1011
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 3: is supposed to be comedic and its fetishizing of those women,

1012
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 3: and this I believe was.

1013
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 4: Trying to be comedic. And even though you know you

1014
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 4: can I can see how they joking work.

1015
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 3: I'm not backing up that joke, but the point being

1016
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: it was a joke, you know what I mean? Right,

1017
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 3: They couched in some humor and some truth though, which

1018
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: is the part I don't nobody want to talk about

1019
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 3: you now. What I found interesting though, was not even

1020
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 3: the passage. I find the passages to be honest. That

1021
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 3: joke has been made by other people.

1022
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 4: The dude who did the dude who.

1023
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 3: Came up with the concept of Fresh off the Boat,

1024
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: Eddie something. I can't remember his last name. He went

1025
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: on Real Time and he made the same point in

1026
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 3: a joking monologue, and there.

1027
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 4: There was backlash too. It did Eddie Wong.

1028
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 3: I believe that, So there was some there was some

1029
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 3: backlash to the joke then, But it's to me, it's

1030
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 3: a joke that it can't escape the reality of the situation,

1031
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 3: so people don't want to laugh at it. Black women

1032
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 3: do want to laugh at it age, Man, I don't

1033
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 3: want to laugh at it because it's almost like, yeah,

1034
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: but this is also kind of fucked up, right, so

1035
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 3: I understand it's gallows humor, as you know at best.

1036
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 3: That being said, of all the things that could be

1037
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: said about this passage that you might have a problem with,

1038
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: and all this stuff, what I found to be.

1039
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 4: The most fucked up.

1040
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: Black men were trying to pretend they were offended by

1041
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: this shit, and my head almost exploded.

1042
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 4: I was like, are we are we doing some fake

1043
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 4: outrage today? Is that what we're doing? Are we really

1044
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 4: doing fake outrage?

1045
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: Are we about to go fragile masculinity all over your

1046
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: timelines on social media over something that is essentially a

1047
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 3: non fucking issue.

1048
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 4: The reason that I found.

1049
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 3: Their fake outrage, and I never use the term, I

1050
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,240
Speaker 3: never use the term fake outrage, I'm using that shit today.

1051
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 3: The reason I found this shit to be so disingenuous

1052
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: and so fucking fake. Black men celebrate the otherness of

1053
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: non black women constantly in all our media, all the.

1054
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 4: Shit we control.

1055
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 3: We are constantly throwing this out there as anything but

1056
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 3: quote unquote just a black woman.

1057
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 4: Please. It's everywhere, you know what I mean?

1058
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 3: Like, I'm like, if y'all were gonna be offended by

1059
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: the notion of marrying and dating outside of your race,

1060
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 3: you would have been called and quote unquote canceled. So

1061
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: many black artists in the arts that they do, in

1062
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 3: the comedy that they make, in the books that they write.

1063
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 4: Are you fucking serious?

1064
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 3: Y'all would have been up in arms about that episode

1065
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 3: of Atlanta. Y'all would have been so mad about that

1066
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 3: speech she gave. They would have been so mad Kanye

1067
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 3: talking about it when he get on leave your ass

1068
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 3: for a white girl and literally did that, y'all would.

1069
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 4: Have been like, you actually, you know what, Kanye kill canceling.

1070
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: It wouldn't have took slavery for y'all to be like,

1071
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 3: cancel con It would have already happened. If you just

1072
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 3: put the word foreign and lyrics into Google, which I did.

1073
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 3: Is funny because you can scream, you can make a

1074
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 3: screen capture of your phone now, so video. So I

1075
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: made like a ten second video of me just putting

1076
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 3: foreign lyrics rap, foreign rap lyrics into like Twitter or

1077
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: something like that, and I just scrolled down and it

1078
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 3: was just a whole lot of black male rappers being

1079
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: like celebrating dating women that aren't American, that aren't black,

1080
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 3: because when they say foreign, they don't really mean not

1081
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 3: a white girl.

1082
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 4: They literally mean anyone but.

1083
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 3: A black woman is foreign and not to mention exotic.

1084
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 3: We celearied got songs named that.

1085
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 4: You know.

1086
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 3: Somebody was like, well, that two chain farn song is

1087
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 3: about cars. I said, okay, but what about in Mercy

1088
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 3: when he said all my girls, all my cars is foreign,

1089
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 3: all my bras is foreign. That's not about women like

1090
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 3: we do that con constantly. Is black men? Why we

1091
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 3: even pretend to be mad. It's not like you don't

1092
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 3: get the concept. Because if someone were to say to you,

1093
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 3: I'm tired of black men celebrating non black women and

1094
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 3: they music and they songs they're talking about, how they

1095
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 3: how how like they're collecting these women that aren't black

1096
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 3: and that makes them special, we would say.

1097
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 4: Oh, well, look it's love.

1098
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 3: Don't see all that I mean, I just think they're

1099
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: a really cool person. Or well, why I can't just

1100
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 3: be attracted to somebody else. I got the I own

1101
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 3: to be attracted to black women.

1102
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. But the second and black women take

1103
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 4: a step outside of that box and go.

1104
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm actually opening this pusson for everybody,

1105
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 3: Like just business is open. I'm just letting people know

1106
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: that the hours hours are non to five and uh,

1107
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 3: we do not discriminate by race. The second of the

1108
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 3: black women would dare say some shit like that, it's like.

1109
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 4: We need to shut her down. And I'm like, and it's.

1110
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 3: Also fake rage cause you niggas gonna be live between

1111
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 3: insecutle going hashtag team Lawrence all summer the summer. You know,

1112
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: it's just so fake. It's so fucking fair.

1113
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 4: Man.

1114
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 3: And the damning reality of the dating game for black women,

1115
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 3: now that we had the statistics to back it up

1116
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: via these dating websites, it's nobody gets to call black

1117
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 3: women a carpet about this, nobody because if they waiting

1118
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 3: on your black ass dick, they.

1119
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 4: Gonna die alone.

1120
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: A lot of dudes, a lot of dudes would rather

1121
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 3: black women suffer if alone for some fucking reason to

1122
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 3: validate racial loyalty that they do not plan on reciprocating

1123
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 3: is a waste of time. There ain't nothing wrong with

1124
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 3: black loves, ain't nothing wrong with black people finding each other.

1125
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 3: I root for everybody finding consensual relationships. Where they can

1126
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 3: be happy and healthy. I don't give a fuck what

1127
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 3: your race and your color is. I legit, don't care,

1128
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I love to celebrate black love,

1129
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 3: I swear to God I do. But you know what,

1130
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 3: I celebrate more happiness seeing happy people period. Right, you

1131
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 3: can be miserable with a black person, you can be

1132
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 3: miserable by yourself, You can be miserable with a white person.

1133
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 3: You be miserable with whatever kind of person you want

1134
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 3: to date. That misery sucks, no matter how it got coordinated,

1135
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But happiness is so fucking rare.

1136
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: I really vibe on seeing happy people, you know.

1137
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 4: Period.

1138
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 3: But the idea that everybody gets to celebrate dating outside

1139
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 3: of their race, and I'll say celebrate because I see

1140
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 3: people celebrate it.

1141
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 4: It's not for all this It's just a choice. It's not.

1142
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 4: We live in a white patriarchal society. Nothing's just a choice.

1143
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 3: Everything we do is influenced by that, whether it's fighting

1144
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 3: against it, fighting with.

1145
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 4: It, trying to ignore it.

1146
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 3: All of it exists in this fucking world that is

1147
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 3: influenced by it. So you think it's a fucking coincidence

1148
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 3: that black women get chosen the least get written back

1149
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 3: the least on these sites. You think that comes abstractly

1150
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 3: out of nowhere, you know what I mean, You can

1151
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 3: try to rap lines. I was talking to her brother

1152
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 3: last night and he was trying to like figure the

1153
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 3: math out on it. He's like, well, maybe if these

1154
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 3: sites would adjust for like attractiveness because blah blah, I said.

1155
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: But here's the thing, one you, attractiveness is a loaded

1156
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 3: term that is also completely rife with white supremacy in America.

1157
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 3: It's impossible for it not to be. It's a certain

1158
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 3: body type, it's a certain weight. When you look at

1159
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 3: a diet. For when you look at the the the

1160
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 3: information on the side of a fucking container of yogurt

1161
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 3: and it tells you what percentage of the diet is.

1162
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 3: That's talking about a white woman's diet. Come on, that's

1163
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 3: not even talking about us, Like like, I'm not saying

1164
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 3: this shouldn't apply, but I'm just saying that's how much

1165
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 3: white people have been made the standard. So when we're

1166
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 3: talking about beauty, we're talking about whiteness. It's impossible to separate.

1167
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 3: So when we're talking about attractiveness, which you know on

1168
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 3: some sites it used to be measured by having other

1169
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: people evaluate someone's picture, and they'd be like like hi,

1170
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 3: theor not dot Colm almost but on a dating site

1171
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 3: and they'd be like, this person's a ten, this person's eight,

1172
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 3: this person a nine. Well, here's the thing about nine,

1173
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 3: ten eight, whatever the fuck that is decided by a

1174
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 3: bunch of people who are living in a white patriarchal

1175
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 3: society and using that to evaluate what makes a.

1176
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 4: Black woman beautiful.

1177
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 3: So let me guess long, straight perm hair, kind of skinny,

1178
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like Anglo saxon features, maybe

1179
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 3: lighter skin.

1180
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 4: So we can't even use that to be like this,

1181
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 4: this is an evening of the playing field.

1182
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 3: We'll just say the other thing you're implying with that

1183
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 3: and think gift in the curse right, this economics, uh,

1184
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 3: this economics concentration in my major gift in the curse right,

1185
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 3: because I'm looking at it now, like at the status

1186
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 3: of it, the outliers, the way that you have to

1187
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 3: study this, right, I'm looking at them. I'm thinking about

1188
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 3: my status class, think about mean, I'm thinking about medians,

1189
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about averages. Right, So let's talk about it.

1190
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 3: Do you think the black women on the site are

1191
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: getting the same ratings.

1192
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 4: As the white women and the Asian women.

1193
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 3: No, So even if you took the same number of

1194
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 3: black women and said, rate these women. Now, let's take

1195
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 3: the same number of Asian women, rate these women. Take

1196
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 3: the same number of white.

1197
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 4: Women, rate these women.

1198
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 3: In an American society influenced by racism, you think those women.

1199
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 4: Come out just it's all fair in the wash.

1200
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 3: No, if you were to take a cross section of

1201
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 3: all the black women on the site, you would find

1202
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 3: that Black women as a whole would be rated lower

1203
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 3: in the Tractor scale because we're racist. Same reason, motherfucker

1204
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 3: tell you, Serena Williams is like a man. But you

1205
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 3: walk around and black people like niggas. Serena Williams is babe,

1206
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 3: what are we talking about?

1207
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 4: Right?

1208
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 3: You know, it's that shit all over again, right, So

1209
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 3: you know, and some niggas, I mean, some people a

1210
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 3: hate Serena, but you know what I'm talking about, the.

1211
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 4: Like, So it's that shit all over again.

1212
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 3: So we're talking about taking the outliers, right, the nines

1213
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 3: and the tens. Well, if they were white, if there's

1214
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 3: two hundred white women, there's two hundred black women.

1215
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 4: Oh, let's just say one hundred and save hundred.

1216
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 3: I guarantee you the nins and the tens and that

1217
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 3: white women's cycle or whatever more of them will make

1218
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 3: it there because the people rating it are racist, so

1219
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 3: it's gonna take a lot more for a black women

1220
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 3: even get up there. This is the other part of

1221
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 3: this shit too. You gotta throw in if you're not

1222
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 3: if you're saying that it's all equal, unfair, and that

1223
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 3: somehow Black women are disproportionately affected. What you're saying is

1224
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 3: only ugly black women sign up to the dating site,

1225
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 3: and I don't believe that, but not ugly other people, right,

1226
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 3: Just a disproportionate amount of ugly Black women signed up

1227
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 3: to dating sites, but not ugly white women, ugly Asian women, ugly. No, No,

1228
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 3: it doesn't make sense, you know what I mean. And

1229
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 3: it hurt I think because the patriarchy, women are seen

1230
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 3: as somebody that you covet, you buy, you earn, you take,

1231
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 3: you can afford, you can own. Right now, I'm not

1232
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 3: saying that's good. This is the way it is, though.

1233
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 3: That's the reason that black women are disproportionately hurt by

1234
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: racism in a way that black men many times aren't.

1235
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 3: Not to say it's fair, but in a lot of

1236
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 3: cases there it's like people are looking at them as

1237
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 3: like cheap, almost like a black woman. I can do

1238
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 3: better than that. I'll just take this uglass white woman.

1239
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 3: I'll just take this ugly ass. This other person could

1240
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 3: be ugly. It's okay with me because they not black.

1241
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 3: It's like a owner added bonus that they not black.

1242
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 3: That's the environment that she made this satirical statement in.

1243
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 4: How dare you.

1244
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 3: Be fucking offended? I don't then be offended at the

1245
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 3: other part too. Keep it balanced, you know.

1246
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 4: But you're not offended at that shit when you see.

1247
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 3: Some black dude making jokes or romanticizing the idea of

1248
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 3: dating a non black woman. I don't ever see these

1249
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 3: niggas call to the carpet by anybody other than black women.

1250
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 4: I ain't never seen somebody.

1251
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 3: Stop and be like, actually, you know what Kanye and

1252
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 3: jay Z when y'all did that niggas in Paris video,

1253
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 3: or Oldest when y'all did Oldest, it's kind of weird

1254
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 3: that y'all only had white girl models in the video.

1255
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 4: Only time I see people know what black women.

1256
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 3: I ain't never seen anyone call them to that no

1257
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 3: one's done an interview with them and said, why would

1258
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 3: you do that?

1259
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 4: This is such a pro black album.

1260
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 3: You know, on My Bitch you talk about how the

1261
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 3: color and the race of women black women is just

1262
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: not respected in the historical standards of beauty and it's

1263
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 3: not fair. So you make that coaching point on your album.

1264
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 3: But then when it comes time to promote this video,

1265
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 3: here we go with uh with this.

1266
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 4: You know.

1267
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 3: So it's that kind of it's that kind of shit

1268
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 3: is just very disheartening. And that's in the environment that

1269
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: she wrote the book, and that's in the environment that

1270
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:36,479
Speaker 3: she made this joke.

1271
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 4: And if you're offended by that, go fuck yourself, Go

1272
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 4: fuck yourself.

1273
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 3: One dude told me, like, well, so, I mean, so

1274
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to house was a finer woman when we

1275
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 3: were telling black women to go out.

1276
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 4: And find other men.

1277
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 3: I said, so easter a raised joke keeping you from

1278
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 3: finding a black woman?

1279
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 4: Now, is that what you want me to believe in?

1280
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 5: Nick?

1281
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 3: I said, I said he had he like a hotel,

1282
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 3: he had to unc on and this colorful dot. Yeah,

1283
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 3: I said, I said, your picture look like you are

1284
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 3: waiting for a uh a Alabasta queen to come uh

1285
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 3: sweep you off your unc right now.

1286
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 4: And he was like, so, then guess what is response

1287
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 4: to this? Baby?

1288
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 3: Uh nah, I got a black woman right now. We've

1289
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 3: been together for blah blah blah. So then what the

1290
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 3: fuck are you acting mad about?

1291
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 4: What's the fake hurt coming from?

1292
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 3: No black man that wants a black woman, that that

1293
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 3: that has respect for black women has a problem getting

1294
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 3: a black woman that's not like this is made up

1295
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 3: fucking problem.

1296
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 4: It's a made up problem.

1297
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 6: If you are a black man and you're seeking a

1298
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 6: black woman, believe you mean, they are black women out there.

1299
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, we constantly demand demand the failty of black women.

1300
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 3: We demand that they fucking do not have any attitude, quips,

1301
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 3: or qualms with the way that we talk about them,

1302
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 3: the way that we fucking demand that loyalty from us,

1303
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,479
Speaker 3: the way that we talk about dating outside a race.

1304
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

1305
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 3: Like, how many black men have expected black women to

1306
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:08,439
Speaker 3: do labor for them while they're married to a white woman, right,

1307
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 3: Like this white woman is a lot to deal with, guys,

1308
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 3: But thank God for y'all. I need y'all to come

1309
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 3: talk me through this shit and there's no disconnect in

1310
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 3: their mind of like, that's kind.

1311
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 4: Of fucked up. We just expected black men.

1312
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 3: And within the framework of blackness, we are often coddled

1313
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 3: in the framework of blackness, And I understand the impost too,

1314
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 3: because outside the framework of blackness, we're not coddled. Like

1315
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 3: outside it's thug, nigger, go to jail, kill this motherfucker.

1316
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 3: I understand the impost, especially from our mothers, our sisters,

1317
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 3: you know, the people that see us that way. It

1318
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 3: is to cuddle us, you know, to protect us while

1319
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 3: they can, because the world's not going to protect us,

1320
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 3: and we're supposed to be these men that can be

1321
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 3: providers and all this stuff. We're so to grow up

1322
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 3: and be these people, you know what I mean. But

1323
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 3: then we turn around and it's like stabbing the back.

1324
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 3: The second we get a chance, you know, it's like, yeah,

1325
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 3: my mom raised me, Yes, my first love was black. Yes,

1326
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 3: the person that did all this labor for me is black.

1327
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 3: This my sister's my this my d But the second

1328
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 3: we get a chance to celebrate the otherness of women,

1329
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 3: the access that we get that many black women do

1330
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 3: not get, we turn around and be like.

1331
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 4: Why are you so salty? I don't understand what did

1332
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 4: I do wrong?

1333
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 3: I mean, damn, love is love, right, but love ain't

1334
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 3: love and it never has been. You know, we have

1335
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 3: to treat it that way because you'll go fucking crazy

1336
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 3: because love is so individual a a task. It's such

1337
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 3: an individual thing that you take on and no one

1338
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 3: can know anyone's heart. So I can't know for sure

1339
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 3: that your coveting of the woman that is not black

1340
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 3: is based on your anti blackness for the woman that

1341
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 3: is black.

1342
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 4: I can never know for sure. Many motherfuckers open.

1343
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 3: Their mouth in a race, all doubt though, right, You've

1344
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 3: never been a problem with that.

1345
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 6: And your actions will show otherwise, Like right, like if

1346
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 6: you are like, hey, I married somebody out outside of

1347
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 6: my raised but what I'm not gonna do is shit

1348
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 6: on the women that raised me, And what she not

1349
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 6: gonna do is shit on the women in my life

1350
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 6: that race me and that I.

1351
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 3: Love, not just that but the children you procreate, right,

1352
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 3: you know it's that shit. So like anyway, all this

1353
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 3: shit to say, how damn niggas try to be fucking

1354
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 3: mad about this shit? It just it is sense to me.

1355
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 3: I was just like, I can't like cause it's laughable.

1356
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 4: It's it's funny. It's funny, the fake flip.

1357
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 3: Flopping, cause I have never seen a nigga be like,

1358
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,479
Speaker 3: I actually don't fuck with you chains?

1359
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 4: Why not? Because he always talking.

1360
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 3: About foreign cars, but then comparing to foreign women, and

1361
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, don't you got a black family at home,

1362
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 3: or you got black kids and a black wife?

1363
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 4: Why you celebrating this?

1364
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 3: Boys, we never even put those qualifications on that art.

1365
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 4: We don't.

1366
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 3: You know, when comedians make jokes about not one to

1367
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 3: day black women, we never say, you know what, man,

1368
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1369
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 4: We're not gonna see your next movie. Naw, we go.

1370
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 4: But Kevin Hart got a black wife.

1371
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he made them dark skin jokes, but

1372
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 3: he got a black wife he thoughts skinned.

1373
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 4: I mean it's different.

1374
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 3: It's not different, though, we don't call them to the

1375
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 3: carpet that way. And then after you get to that point,

1376
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 3: it's this environment that is very harshly afair to black

1377
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,439
Speaker 3: women when it comes to the day to scene, when

1378
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 3: it comes to these stats, and these numbers don't fucking lie.

1379
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 3: So once you get to the fact that you can't

1380
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 3: avoid these numbers, I don't there's nothing left to say

1381
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 3: other than I'm yo, I'm sorry, that's fucked up.

1382
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 4: Do what you gotta do, but don't wait on these niggas.

1383
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 3: You'll have codweys and your pussy weight on these niggas

1384
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 3: to fucking put a ring on it while they're out

1385
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 3: here celebrating all the wrong fucking things like yep.

1386
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 6: And the thing is because of the demand, unrealistic demand

1387
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,439
Speaker 6: on black women to only love black men and black

1388
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 6: men only.

1389
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 5: A lot of women who even.

1390
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 6: Who may even consider dating outside of the race, a lot

1391
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 6: of times are scared and frightened because it's one of

1392
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 6: those things where they feel like if they do, they

1393
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,439
Speaker 6: might have to deal with being looked at its other

1394
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 6: being ostracized, being put outside of the community, losing their

1395
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 6: quote unquote black girlfriends, social circles, and.

1396
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 4: Shit like that.

1397
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 5: You know, a lot more.

1398
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 6: The criticism is there regardless when particularly Black people, for

1399
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 6: some reason, they're outside their race. But for men it's

1400
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 6: a little different than the than it is for women.

1401
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, nah, you're absolutely right.

1402
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a social pressure to it, and there's

1403
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 3: a and like I said, it's patriarchy too, because in

1404
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 3: all even the way that people talk about Asian women

1405
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 3: at day outside the race. If you look at those

1406
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 3: discussions in the Asian community, a lot of it's not healthy,

1407
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 3: like the way that they talk about the women as

1408
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 3: if you belong to me, as if how dare you?

1409
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,439
Speaker 3: You know, and the things they say like even that's

1410
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 3: not healthy. But we need to all get over this

1411
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 3: idea because so much hurt's been done with between intro racially,

1412
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 3: between men and women. We all need to get over

1413
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 3: this shit, everybody. You know what I mean, Like black

1414
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 3: women love us so much. I don't ut they detriment

1415
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 3: many times, like they'll love us to death literally literally.

1416
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,759
Speaker 3: Well you're like wow, because black men will hide behind

1417
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 3: they will hide the abuse behind racial solidarity. Like you're

1418
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 3: gonna let them do me like this sister, you know,

1419
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 3: like we don't have time to do it today, We'll

1420
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 3: do it tomorrow. But R Kelly's press release was you

1421
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 3: know what, fuck it, we're doing it today. Let's even

1422
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 3: R Kelly's press release was about how it's a black thing,

1423
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 3: bitch what yeah, zero ten hundred on this though A hundred, yeah,

1424
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 3: one hundred, and then I gotta play this sound effect.

1425
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 3: I'll try to turn the volume down because I know

1426
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 3: shit is loud, and I haven't had a chance to,

1427
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 3: uh to really work with this volume and try to

1428
01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 3: get to it before a place.

1429
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 4: Uh.

1430
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, well do take out the trash, fuck it.

1431
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 3: We'll go along today. The flash ain't even that good though,

1432
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 3: all right. So yeah, that's one hundred for me as well.

1433
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,719
Speaker 3: I forgot to And I just want to be clear

1434
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 3: on this too. I don't care when anyone days outside

1435
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 3: the race. Just don't turn around to let me see

1436
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 3: you using that ship to bash everybody else in the race.

1437
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 6: And that's the problem. That's it, like and and and

1438
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 6: that's the problem that black women have and and and

1439
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 6: me as being a black woman. Let me tell you

1440
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 6: right now, black women don't give a fuck who you

1441
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 6: putting your dick in. If it's not, then we don't

1442
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 6: give a fuck. The only time black women get outraged

1443
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 6: and get upset or even say any goddamn thing to

1444
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 6: you is when you use your significant other or her

1445
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 6: race or ethnicity to tell us how we ain't shit.

1446
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 6: That's when black women will get mad. We don't give

1447
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 6: a fuck who you date, who you love, who you married, who,

1448
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 6: how many to baby mama's you got.

1449
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 5: We don't care.

1450
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 6: Quit putting out this false thing that black women are

1451
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 6: sitting around motherfucker.

1452
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 5: Worried about our lord.

1453
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 6: Who's Tyrone putting this dick in? I don't give a

1454
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 6: god damn who Tyrone put this dick in. As long

1455
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 6: as Tyrone don't bring her in my face talking about

1456
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 6: she better than me, that's when I'd be like, motherfucker,

1457
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 6: what the hell wrong with you? Other than that, we

1458
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 6: don't give a fuck. And I don't know where men.

1459
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 5: Get this thing where they think that we actually care.

1460
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 4: We don't.

1461
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 6: We don't give a damn. When you out with a

1462
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 6: white woman, I smile and I keep you pushing.

1463
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck.

1464
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 6: Most Black women don't judge you, and if they do,

1465
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 6: they keep it internally and they don't say anything directly

1466
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 6: to you, because there are some women that do struggle

1467
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 6: with that. But what they don't do is just actually

1468
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 6: just talk out in the open like it's crazy. And

1469
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 6: I understand why they feel that way, but they're feeling

1470
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,520
Speaker 6: that way because a lot of men in those situations

1471
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 6: actually bash them, and they're under the assumption that you

1472
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 6: will too. But a lot of that comes from hurt

1473
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 6: and pain of black men leaving them alone. And leaving

1474
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 6: them stranded and hurt and pain from them not feel

1475
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 6: in love by the black men that they give they

1476
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 6: all and all to that abuse them and whip their

1477
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 6: ass and beat them and punch them and turn around

1478
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 6: and leave them like like this pain isn't coming from anywhere.

1479
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 6: So I completely understand why they feel like that, But

1480
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 6: the average black women could give a goddamn about you

1481
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 6: and who you fucking.

1482
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 4: I would just like to add on to that.

1483
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 3: Black men make their racial paranoia part of black women's

1484
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 3: responsibility to clean up, and that's just extra labor.

1485
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 4: You know. Like my paranoia about not.

1486
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 3: Being woke, not being real, being seen as selling out

1487
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 3: my race, being seen as hating black women, I'm gonna

1488
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 3: turn that into a imaginary black women that apparently hates

1489
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 3: to see me out like this, you know. And that's

1490
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 3: the part that, like I said, niggas do not want

1491
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 3: to claim that, but that is where that shit comes from.

1492
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 3: That whole stereotype of angry black women running up on

1493
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 3: interracial couples and giving them a piece of they mind.

1494
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 3: It's not happening, but it is happening in your fucking head,

1495
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 3: and that is some therapy you need.

1496
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 4: That shit ain't got nothing to do with anybody outside

1497
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 4: of your relationship. That's some therapy you gotta deal with.

1498
01:12:58,360 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 4: You know.

1499
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 3: Motherfuckers will take like one running with one person, possibly

1500
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 3: kind of in a little bit, maybe she looked at

1501
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 3: me the wrong way. They will take that shit to

1502
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 3: the grave and turn it into every black woman walking

1503
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 3: around hating on us. Meanwhile, the motherfucker's taking care of

1504
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:17,759
Speaker 3: your fucking kids black women, right, your grandmama's, your aunts,

1505
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 3: your nieces, all these motherfuckers the person feeding y'all when

1506
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 3: it come to Thanksgiving.

1507
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 4: Black women don't nobody give a fuck about that shit.

1508
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 3: Man, But you can't get out of your own head,

1509
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 3: so you put it on everybody else.

1510
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 4: Everybody must be sitting around conspiring on.

1511
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 3: Your interracial relationship, as if it ain't that important. Dog,

1512
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 3: everybody is, hey, fine, love, if you can find it,

1513
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 3: that's it. And the reason I noticed shit is true

1514
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,480
Speaker 3: is because I'm a black man. I've had these conversations

1515
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 3: with niggas, you know what I mean. I've been places

1516
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 3: where like everybody was to assume to have much been

1517
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 3: wanting to date of a white woman, everyone in the room.

1518
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 4: Like I've been in rooms where it's like, damn, you

1519
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 4: ain't got a white woman.

1520
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 6: I didn't know that, brother, that shock and not come

1521
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 6: in every David nigga like your wife's black.

1522
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 4: I've had that conversation before.

1523
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, what about me made you think I was

1524
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 3: sitting around fucking dating a white woman?

1525
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 4: And then I realized what it is?

1526
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 3: You know, one, it used to be my job and

1527
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 3: shit like that, but then two, I'm in a room

1528
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,759
Speaker 3: full of niggas that it was at a YMCA where

1529
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 3: a lot of those dudes had access to white spaces,

1530
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 3: and in their mind it was a four gold conclusion.

1531
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 3: Any black man with access to white space would be

1532
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 3: dating someone not black. Obviously, why would they quote unquote

1533
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,679
Speaker 3: settle for someone who was just black?

1534
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 4: You know? So like, that's a reality.

1535
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 3: I've seen with my own eyes, and motherfuckers are not

1536
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 3: gonna convince me that that's not true.

1537
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:45,759
Speaker 4: And what I never saw.

1538
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 3: In those rooms was outraged from any fucking body, you.

1539
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 5: Know what I mean.

1540
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 3: I've never seen one person get called to the carpet

1541
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 3: for that anti blackness right there, and I've been the

1542
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 3: one to say shit to him, like, ain't that kind

1543
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 3: of fucked up?

1544
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 4: I mean, ain't you black. You know what I'm saying,

1545
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 4: Like when you hit me.

1546
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 3: With the like you know, I'm like, hey, but you know,

1547
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 3: I don't date black girls. I mean, they just have

1548
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 3: too much of attitude. Nigga, you got an attitude. Were

1549
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 3: all on the basketball court? What are you talking about?

1550
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

1551
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 4: You know?

1552
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 3: But it's that, But it's that. And then so the

1553
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 3: huge part of that is this emotional labor we expect

1554
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 3: black women to do on the hind part of this,

1555
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 3: because when one somebody might meet you and not like

1556
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 3: you or your fucking wife right just genuinely, before we

1557
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 3: get to anything about race.

1558
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 4: They might just not like your ass.

1559
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 3: But in your mind, that's a racist person that they

1560
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 3: they didn't they saw as with the white women that

1561
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 3: flipped the fuck out, or maybe.

1562
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 4: You looked at them kind of sideways because you paranoid, right,

1563
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 4: you know.

1564
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 3: So it puts everyone in this fucking weird position of

1565
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 3: having to be overly friendly so that we don't think

1566
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 3: you go home and talk about us because you feel

1567
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 3: fucking weird about it, Like I like, I personally don't

1568
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 3: like doing that extra labor for you, so you and

1569
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 3: it doesn't happen as much for men, like with black men,

1570
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 3: that's kind of an understanding of.

1571
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 4: Like, hey, hey, hey got me a white woman.

1572
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying and I did my thing right,

1573
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 3: can't hit on that right, there's a because men are

1574
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 3: coveting women. We'll get we're the ones who go get

1575
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 3: the women, right. But when it comes to black women,

1576
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 3: they expect. They fucking smile, they make expect eye contact.

1577
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 3: Can I get you something to drink? Is everything going good?

1578
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 3: Cause if they don't get that shit, they are all

1579
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 3: up in their feelings like these black women don't like us.

1580
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 3: They mad and I'm with you, like nah, nigga. It's

1581
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 3: just maybe everybody in the world is not catering to

1582
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 3: what the fuck.

1583
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 4: Your ego's on.

1584
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 3: Right now, learn to be okay with that shit when

1585
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 3: you walk out the house. Stop putting in your fucking

1586
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 3: your your comedy stand up, stop putting your fucking bugs,

1587
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 3: stop putting in your fucking television shows like Donald Glover did, Like,

1588
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 3: don't just take this fucking idea out. It's a stupid idea.

1589
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 3: It's a stupid trope, and it's very harmful and it

1590
01:16:55,360 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 3: hurts all race. Just stop it and have fun. Do

1591
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 3: whatever you date whoever the fuck you want. Just keep

1592
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 3: the anti blackness out of it.

1593
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 4: That's it.

1594
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 5: It's a lot of.

1595
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 3: Woke motherfucker's dating white women and everybody's letting them cook

1596
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 3: because we're like, doesn't seem to be a coon to me?

1597
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 4: Why would I ever have a problem with that?

1598
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 5: That's all that matters.

1599
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 4: You know.

1600
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,560
Speaker 3: You're telling me if if Van Jones walked in my

1601
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 3: house with his white wife and being Carson walked in

1602
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,640
Speaker 3: my house with his black wife, I'm gonna let be

1603
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 3: in Carson.

1604
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 4: Stay.

1605
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 3: Nah, that's not how it goes. So just stop putting

1606
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 3: that shit on us, because we don't give a fucking

1607
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 3: We're not worried about that shit, you know. So anyway

1608
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 3: to see, the niggas try to flip flop it on

1609
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 3: Easter Ray, which is so stupid and misplaced. And yes,

1610
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 3: you can feel the jokes with whack or corny or

1611
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 3: whatever cliche you know whatever. I get that you might

1612
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 3: just not like Easter Ray in general. You might have

1613
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 3: other issues with her comedy and shit, you ain't gotta

1614
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 3: write me to tell.

1615
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 4: Me about it. I don't work for her.

1616
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 3: But that passage, that excerpt out of that context was

1617
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 3: just fucking stupid to see niggas try to pretend to

1618
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 3: be mad knowing they about to turn up some motherfucking

1619
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 3: some motherfucking songs that's talk about dating some non black

1620
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 3: women and how dope and cool that makes that rapper

1621
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 3: be get the fuck out of here.

1622
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 4: Somebody talk about you can compare a rap to comedy.

1623
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 3: I was like, why the fuck can't I, because you

1624
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 3: can take both of them just is not serious, right,

1625
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 3: One of them's comedy. One of them is actually designed

1626
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,719
Speaker 3: to not be taking that seriously. So you did choose

1627
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 3: to take her words seriously, and you absolutely do choose

1628
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 3: to ignore rappers who give us pervasive messages of anti

1629
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 3: blackness when it comes to women, all the goddamn time.

1630
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 4: All right, now to the trash.

1631
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 3: R Kelly responds the Times Up campaign singer is a

1632
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 3: target of greedy, conscious, malicious conspiracy. In response to an

1633
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 3: initiative undertaking my Women of Color, the Women of Color

1634
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 3: branch within Times Up to join the online hashtag r

1635
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 3: Kelly campaign. The rap of the singer has issued the

1636
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 3: following statement from his manager. R Kelly supports the pro

1637
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 3: women goals of the time times Up movement. So we

1638
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 3: just starting off on lives. Okay, so we're just gonna start. Okay,

1639
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 3: we understand criticizing the famous artist is a good way

1640
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 3: to draw attention of those goals, and in this case,

1641
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 3: it is an unjusting off target.

1642
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 4: Hey man, what happened to his PR people quitting? How

1643
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 4: this statement come out?

1644
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 3: Remember he wasn't had nobody around him no more because

1645
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 3: the latest documentary.

1646
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 5: He's still paying. So as long as he's paying.

1647
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 2: Job.

1648
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 4: Who is the person that got that phone y'all that

1649
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 4: had U.

1650
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 3: Hello Morrow and Associates PR firm? Hey man, this is

1651
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 3: a oh call it. I normally don't do this, but

1652
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna need some representation right now. I don't know

1653
01:19:55,600 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 3: if you heard about me in the news. We we

1654
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 3: definitely heard about you. And uh we uh. We are

1655
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 3: just so busy right now. We just have so so

1656
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 3: full I mean, I wish I could get to it.

1657
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 5: The office is full right now.

1658
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 6: I'm trying to keep everybody quiet while making too much

1659
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 6: noise in the background.

1660
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 3: We also work for Kanye and Chance to wrap in

1661
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 3: all the people that co sign them.

1662
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 4: So we just do not have the time.

1663
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 3: We are so full of statements and notes, apps screenshots

1664
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 3: right now. We just uh, I'm gonna have to say no,

1665
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 3: mister Kelly. I'm not trying to be rude, but uh no,

1666
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 3: uh yeah, that's how I feel. I feel like every car.

1667
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 3: And then finally got to somebody that's like, you know,

1668
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 3: their bills is behind, like it's three months past, dude,

1669
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 3: they about to get kicked off that office.

1670
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 5: It was like, is your chance clean?

1671
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 4: Right?

1672
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 5: If it's clean, I'm gonna take the job.

1673
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 4: This is all Kelly. How much you paying y'all paying

1674
01:20:58,479 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 4: court for fist? Oh?

1675
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 3: I know what you want. I know what you want.

1676
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 3: This motherfucker man. We fully support the rights of women

1677
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,440
Speaker 3: to be in power to make their own choices.

1678
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 9: Do we?

1679
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 3: Times Up has neglected to speak with any of the

1680
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,759
Speaker 3: women who welcome R. Kelly's support, and it has rushed

1681
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 3: judgment without the facts what women are welcoming and support

1682
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 3: the people buying ticket?

1683
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 4: He good them people you can't count.

1684
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 3: They don't county. People don't count. I have two sex late.

1685
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 3: I mean young women right here that will tell you

1686
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 3: I'm great. Tell them like, nah, nigga, you women? How

1687
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 3: old are these women? Don't be asking no questions? Okay,

1688
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,719
Speaker 3: that's an interview over sooner will become clear. Mister Kelly

1689
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 3: is a target of a greedy, conscious, and malicious conspiracy

1690
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 3: to demean him, his family, and the women with whom

1691
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 3: he spends his time.

1692
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:55,719
Speaker 4: You mean the children.

1693
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 3: Kelly's music is part of American and African American culture

1694
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 3: that should never, will never be silenced. I've told you

1695
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 3: niggas will harm their own community, and they run behind

1696
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 3: black solidarity, and some people eat that shit up too,

1697
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:12,719
Speaker 3: like some some.

1698
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 4: People will straight up eat that shit up.

1699
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 3: But yeah, it says since America was born, black men

1700
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 3: and women have been lynched for having sex.

1701
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 4: Or being accused of it.

1702
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 5: How did we get here?

1703
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 4: I think he's trying to invoke the mt.

1704
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 3: TIL thing we will vigorously resist as a tempted public

1705
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 3: lynching of a black man who has made extraordinary contributions

1706
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 3: for the culture. Thanks for listening to R. Kelly management.

1707
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 5: I think I believe with somebody said, I think he

1708
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 5: wrote this himself.

1709
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 4: They listen.

1710
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 3: My thing is this browler prede Like, how many times

1711
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 3: have we had the so and so was lynched when

1712
01:22:56,280 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 3: it's a black man and he's harming black women?

1713
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 4: Are they say the same?

1714
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 3: Chuck d tweeted out retweeted a video from YouTube of

1715
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 3: a black woman and voice Walkings talking about Bill Cosey

1716
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 3: was lynched, and I'm like, y'all love to do this

1717
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 3: to abusive black men, to say, to hold them up

1718
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 3: on a pedestal of like martyrdom.

1719
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 5: Like sometimes the nigga's just wrong.

1720
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 4: This ain't that.

1721
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 3: If your freedom and your ability to not be punished

1722
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 3: come to the expense of black children, I'm not here

1723
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 3: for it.

1724
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 4: You can go, you know.

1725
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I'm not I'm just I'm just not

1726
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 3: gonna be fooled by that shit. It's so stupid, you know,

1727
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 3: So I'm going I'm I'm glad that you R. Kelly

1728
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 3: is going around. I hope people are cutting ties with him.

1729
01:23:58,040 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 3: He shouldn't be able to tour, he shouldn't be able

1730
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 3: to make money, and more than anything, he should have

1731
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 3: went to prison a long time ago for this ship

1732
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 3: and that that'll probably never happen at this point, but

1733
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 3: I hope, I hope if they find a way, I

1734
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,679
Speaker 3: hope they find a way to get them, because it's

1735
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 3: it's ridiculous, beyond ridiculous at this point, you know. And

1736
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 3: I am pointing the finger all the black people that

1737
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 3: still hold him up you know, because I've seen black

1738
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 3: women within the community still be like this shit don't

1739
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,839
Speaker 3: matter and I don't know why, but but the song's

1740
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 3: good or I don't know why this ain't a problem,

1741
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 3: and I'm like, but if if so, we gotta we

1742
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 3: gotta act like.

1743
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 4: Him being a pedophile not a big deal because you

1744
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:40,959
Speaker 4: still like his songs.

1745
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 3: That's a lot the songs are about sex. Like, I'm

1746
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 3: not saying you gotta cancel everybody. I mean, but you

1747
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 3: can't control how other people perceive them, Like, you can't

1748
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,719
Speaker 3: have it both ways. If you're gonna like his music

1749
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 3: and enjoy it, do that, but just know you're gonna

1750
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:56,679
Speaker 3: be judged.

1751
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 5: And that's the thing. They want to do it and

1752
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 5: not be judged, and that's not happening.

1753
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 3: You would do this to a black man that day

1754
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 3: when you go with these are little black girls. First

1755
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 3: of all, they fast.

1756
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 4: You see them little girls, It's.

1757
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 3: Like, well, you don't even disagree to the heaven't right,

1758
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 3: You're just saying it's okay to do it to a

1759
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 3: little black girl.

1760
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 4: It's weird.

1761
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 3: It's weird, but it's also like just marks of the

1762
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 3: trauma we have experienced within our community, and that we've

1763
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 3: done each other because what has happened is the sexual

1764
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 3: relationships between older black men and these little black girls

1765
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 3: has become normalized to a lot of black people to

1766
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 3: a point where they don't where they find Hey, at

1767
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 3: least he still covets black black girls and black women.

1768
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 4: You know.

1769
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 3: It's living some type of weird ass black fantasy for me,

1770
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 3: you know, like, and I'm like, nah, that fetishization, all that.

1771
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 4: Shit is wrong.

1772
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 5: Dog children. Nah.

1773
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, but he when I was a kid, I

1774
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 3: remember hearing rumors of him trying to marry Aliyah. And

1775
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 3: I was just a kid, and I remember that being

1776
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 3: in a source and I was like, sure, that's not what.

1777
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 3: That has to be a rumor of some type because

1778
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 3: all the adults involved in the music industry that are

1779
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 3: around should all go, this is not allowed to happen.

1780
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 3: Like Aliah's parents, somebody saw a manager somewhere, should be like,

1781
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 3: this guy's praying on an underage girl just because she's famous.

1782
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 4: It shouldn't be okay.

1783
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 3: But then years later we watched Tiger and Kylie or

1784
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 3: whatever the fuck date, It's like, it just don't apply

1785
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 3: to famous people. To certain people, yep, they marry Yeah, Okay,

1786
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 3: so he did marry her. Yeah, like and I think

1787
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 3: it was a node or some shit, but the point

1788
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 3: being like that, and then and then yeah, someone's saying

1789
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 3: the chat too.

1790
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 4: If he did that to a white girl, it'd be over.

1791
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 4: So we so like what anyway? All right, all right,

1792
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 4: I'm getting frustrated. Uh, it's just it's just ridiculous.

1793
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 3: Oh when somebody asked, what episode was that that Donald

1794
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 3: Glover did it too, Uh, it's the one this season,

1795
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 3: I think two weeks ago where Van goes to meet Drake.

1796
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 4: It's called Champagne Poppy. Uh.

1797
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 3: We did a review of it on This too Much

1798
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:09,759
Speaker 3: when me and BOSSI. It is probably still on the

1799
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 3: free feed if you listen to This too Much. But yeah,

1800
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 3: that moment resonated with a lot of people because it

1801
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 3: was so fucked up, and a lot of anti black women.

1802
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 4: People spread that clip around of.

1803
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:24,560
Speaker 3: That black woman getting the getting the attitude with the

1804
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 3: celebrity black man dating a white woman, and they went,

1805
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 3: that's how it be, that's how them sisters to be doing.

1806
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 3: It's very harmful and very and everybody involves would be

1807
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:35,719
Speaker 3: a shame. And that episode is written by a white woman.

1808
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 3: All right, going to the next level, next segment. I'm

1809
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 3: actually going to a new level too. We're gonna take

1810
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 3: this show.

1811
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:47,799
Speaker 4: Up and not y'all at the next level of TVG

1812
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 4: W T.

1813
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm not even ready for where we're

1814
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 5: getting ready to go.

1815
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 3: Then come back, it's just gonna be nothing but us

1816
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 3: saying the N word and no no actual topics.

1817
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 5: Nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga.

1818
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 4: Be the whole show.

1819
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 3: Somebody told me not to say the N word today

1820
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 3: when I was talking about Kanye M.

1821
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, okay, nigga please.

1822
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 6: Oh that's what That's one word. I never give up. Nigga,

1823
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:23,600
Speaker 6: give it up.

1824
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 3: I mean I don't love my people now, I guess

1825
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 3: I don't love him because I love that word.

1826
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:29,640
Speaker 6: That's one thing I'm trying to tell you. If I

1827
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 6: got to be black and be a female and deal

1828
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 6: with racism and injustice and all this other bullshit, I

1829
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 6: got the motherfucking right to say nigga.

1830
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 4: All right. Bail Cozi was found guilty of sexual assault

1831
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 4: in his retrial. Got him, took time, took his time,

1832
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 4: but justice finally prevailed. Mm hmmm, very long.

1833
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 3: He faces a maxim size of ten years and the

1834
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 3: final twenty five thousand dollars on three counts. He's eighty

1835
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:06,640
Speaker 3: years old, maybe if he I mean, I doubt he's

1836
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 3: getting all ten of them years. I mean, he's rich

1837
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 3: in probation. All right, he'll probably get sick, they'll let

1838
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 3: him out. He'll be fucking at home on like, he'll

1839
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 3: probably get through prison at home or some ship like that.

1840
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 4: Uh. But uh, yeah, I'm glad. They glad they finally

1841
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 4: got him.

1842
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 3: And you know that they listen to all the evidence

1843
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 3: because they said it was those depositions that got him.

1844
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, his own depositions.

1845
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 5: Which they sit right, h.

1846
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 3: Charlie Rose, who was accused of sexual improprieties right, Uh,

1847
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 3: disgraced anger. Now at this point, he now says he

1848
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 3: will anchor a show uh where he'll interview other high

1849
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 3: profile men who have also been toppled by the me

1850
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 3: too scandals. What about his career, don't care, it's gotta

1851
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 3: be over with. This isn't fair, this poor man. What's

1852
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 3: he gonna do now?

1853
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 4: Oh?

1854
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 3: I know, he'll host the show about the ship that

1855
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 3: he did with other men who also did fucked up

1856
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 3: shit towards women and Uh, it'll be on TV and

1857
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 3: he'll get a check for that, and that's okay, that's

1858
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 3: gonna be fine. But what about these poor men. They've

1859
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,839
Speaker 3: ended women's careers to protect the secrets of their abuse.

1860
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 3: Come on, but this nigga gonna just come back on

1861
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 3: TV and talk about it with other men, Like, even

1862
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 3: if he would have thought I didn't do it and

1863
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 3: I was falsely accused, why would you start interviewing all

1864
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 3: the men like all of us must have been falsely accused.

1865
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 3: You don't think just there's a good a percentage of

1866
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 3: me and your interviewing that did the shit, even if

1867
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 3: you thought you even if you literally didn't do it,

1868
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 3: which obviously I think he did do it.

1869
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 4: This is the behavior of somebody that did that shit.

1870
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 4: This is ridiculous, right yep.

1871
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 3: The move was revealed by editor, writer and women's advocate

1872
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 3: Tina Brown, who confirmed paid six and she was recently

1873
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 3: approached to produce a me to Atonement series starring Rose,

1874
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 3: who would interview others in broader sexual harassment scandals. It's

1875
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:17,679
Speaker 3: supposed to be an atonement series, mm hmm. She said

1876
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 3: that she passed on the project. Of course, she first

1877
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:23,680
Speaker 3: mentioned proposed Rose Redemption Show, while she appeared in a

1878
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 3: Q and A this week at brooklyn Bridge Park Conserva

1879
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 3: or Conservacies Women's lunching, she said, said a source. Tina

1880
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 3: says she's just been emailed about co hosting a new

1881
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 3: show with Charlie Rose and which she they interviewed Luis K,

1882
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 3: Matt Lower and others caught up into me too sexual

1883
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:39,919
Speaker 3: harassment scandals.

1884
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 6: M tell me them stories that came out. Why bitch,

1885
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:46,640
Speaker 6: why who acts for this?

1886
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 3: It's funny how we make away for these guys to

1887
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 3: come back.

1888
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 6: But not the women though, but not the women. But

1889
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 6: bitches be all about that money. Just be trying whoes,

1890
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 6: be trying to make careers and shit, where are these

1891
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:02,719
Speaker 6: women at where that talk shows?

1892
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,719
Speaker 3: Also, I don't want to see two sexual harassments interview

1893
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:09,719
Speaker 3: each other? Hey, so then what happened? Well, she claimed,

1894
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 3: I wanted then and I start sucking on them teddies.

1895
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying all like, she said, But

1896
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 3: mister c K, why I'm at work?

1897
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 4: What are you doing?

1898
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 3: And Charlie Ro's gonna be avery on the other side,

1899
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 3: like go on, and then did you like touch a

1900
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:26,639
Speaker 3: buttole or something?

1901
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 4: What? Oh? Are we recording.

1902
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 3: Are we just just into a weird territory with two

1903
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 3: people who are accused of sexual harassment interviewing each other.

1904
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 4: That's like we relive in our highlights. This is a

1905
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 4: stupid idea.

1906
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, like you're gonna get rid of get them hard

1907
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 5: hitting quick right?

1908
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 3: Or is it gonna be the slowest show ever? I

1909
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 3: mean the shortest show ever. I didn't do it. I

1910
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 3: didn't do it either. We'll be back next week. Come

1911
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 3: on me too with Charlie Rose. Well, we both didn't

1912
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 3: do it, And tell me before you leave, what's your

1913
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 3: movie you're coming out this week? Because we gotta make

1914
01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 3: sure we go see it since you definitely didn't do it,

1915
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 3: and I have no more questions. Right, unless they're gonna

1916
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 3: do some more ship where they bring out the women,

1917
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 3: I'll be okay with that.

1918
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 4: I didn't do it.

1919
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 3: Well, that's funny because we have some people with spike

1920
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 3: bats who would like to talk to you coming up

1921
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 3: after the break m when we come.

1922
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 4: Back the confrontation.

1923
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 5: But like these women agreed to come in and speak

1924
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 5: with you.

1925
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 4: To that, right, But yeah, man, fuck this show, fuck

1926
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 4: everything about it.

1927
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 3: Charlie Rose, uh at any agent that bookstage person to

1928
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 3: go on.

1929
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 4: That is also a dumb ass. That should be the

1930
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 4: first show that fails because they couldn't get guessed. Can

1931
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 4: you imagine, Hey, Louie, I got a great idea.

1932
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 3: Man. Rather than just quietly keep doing stand up and

1933
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 3: come back on the low, you need to do an

1934
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:54,799
Speaker 3: interview talking about this ship with another nigga that's accused

1935
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 3: of doing some shit.

1936
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 4: No, I'm good.

1937
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,640
Speaker 3: Uh. Calice claims she endured a lot of mental and

1938
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:01,679
Speaker 3: physical abuse during.

1939
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 4: Her marriage to Nasm.

1940
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 3: It was really dark. There was a lot of drinking.

1941
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 3: There's a lot of mental and physical Abusecually said. She

1942
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 3: told Hollywood and Locke CEO Jason Lee, oh the other

1943
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,600
Speaker 3: Jason Lee on Thursday, April sixth I probably would have

1944
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 3: stayed longer had I not been pregnant with Night because

1945
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,720
Speaker 3: I really did love him, because we were married. We

1946
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 3: weren't dating, We were married like this was my person.

1947
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 3: Marriage is a trap they put on these women sometimes man.

1948
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 6: And sometimes people were actually rush into marriage when a

1949
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:36,639
Speaker 6: lot of abusive men and manipulative men will actually ask

1950
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 6: women to marry him just so she won't leave, particularly

1951
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 6: if it's on a rock.

1952
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 5: So they have an idea she's gonna leave. That's a

1953
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:44,680
Speaker 5: trick to stay long.

1954
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 4: Also, like just for the time their little girls, we

1955
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 4: tell like get.

1956
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 3: Married, get married, get married. You know, it's like that

1957
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 3: thing we say, like a lot of times, I feel

1958
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 3: like a woman's more in love with a wedding than

1959
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 3: a marriage. Yeah, you know what I mean, because like you,

1960
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:58,719
Speaker 3: if you don't do this, you're not a complete woman.

1961
01:34:59,320 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 4: So then you do.

1962
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 3: I didn't need to trapped to some motherfucker that's less

1963
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 3: than uh spectacular.

1964
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 5: Right and and not tell me funny.

1965
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 6: And it's almost reversed. I didn't have a wedding, And

1966
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 6: the number one question I get is why and what's

1967
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 6: wrong with you? Like like I'm like, I'm the odd personnel.

1968
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 6: I didn't go through the prime. So the same thing,

1969
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 6: because people have so much ingrained that this is quote

1970
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 6: unquote what you must do as a woman, that if

1971
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 6: you don't do that, something must be wrong with you.

1972
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:28,560
Speaker 5: You're abnormal. And you're like, nah, it's just shit. I

1973
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 5: didn't want to do.

1974
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1975
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 3: So My Life on a Plate cookbook author says she

1976
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 3: believed at the time that Nods forty four was are

1977
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 3: so bake, but after nearly a decade of staying silent,

1978
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 3: she decided to come forward. I waited nine years to

1979
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,599
Speaker 3: say something. I've never talked about this man.

1980
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 4: Ever.

1981
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 3: The amount of airing out that I could do, I've

1982
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,679
Speaker 3: chosen not to. Our kids will find out. They're finding

1983
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:51,599
Speaker 3: out now. I've never paid it myself as a saint.

1984
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 4: Did he hit me? Did I hit him back?

1985
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:58,080
Speaker 3: M h Colie said her relationship with the Grammy nominated

1986
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 3: rapper had so many into his highs and really intense

1987
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 3: lows throughout the years that they would often have a

1988
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 3: bad night, wake up the next morning like it never happened.

1989
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:07,719
Speaker 4: It wasn't until Chris.

1990
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 3: Brown Or sat to Rihanna that she decided it was

1991
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 3: time to leave. I remember so clear when Rihanna's pictures

1992
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 3: came out because I had Bruce all over my body

1993
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 3: at the time, She recalled becoming visibly emotional.

1994
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 4: I wasn't ready to walk away. I just was.

1995
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,640
Speaker 3: I'm not weak, but I'm really private. I don't like

1996
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 3: people knowing my business. I felt like, this is my partner.

1997
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 3: I chose this, We're gonna do this, We're gonna make

1998
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 3: it work. Yeah, and abusive people really rely on that feeling. Well,

1999
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,600
Speaker 3: if you leave, you failed you failed to save me

2000
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:37,679
Speaker 3: and change me and to make me treat you better.

2001
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 5: Now my job, know is that my responsibility? You've grown

2002
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 5: as man?

2003
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 3: And she basically said, I moved on, I'm married to

2004
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 3: have another baby. My life is good. But yeah, it's

2005
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:50,679
Speaker 3: the first time I talk about it, and I didn't

2006
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 3: know all that shit. But you know, obviously people kind

2007
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 3: of ignoring it for now.

2008
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:56,719
Speaker 4: Nas.

2009
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 3: I don't think it's issued any level of response to it.

2010
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 3: I don't think he's ever rapped about it or talked

2011
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:03,639
Speaker 3: about it in the interview or anything.

2012
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 4: So a lot of times people hold water for folks

2013
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 4: like that.

2014
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 5: Man.

2015
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's the thing when it comes to like

2016
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 6: abuse and abusive people. You know, it's like the you

2017
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 6: like shit, but like it's your job to fix me.

2018
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 5: No, it's not.

2019
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:20,599
Speaker 3: Russell Simmons had one of his lawsuits dismissed. The a

2020
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:24,599
Speaker 3: five million dollar rape lawsuit was dismissed. At this Simmons

2021
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 3: says that the woman who accused him of rape, uh

2022
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,640
Speaker 3: sent him news weeks after she allegedly, you know, the

2023
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 3: alleged that's all happened.

2024
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 5: What did that got to do in anything? Uh?

2025
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 4: Well, the judge looked at it like, if he raped you,

2026
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 4: while'd you be sending him news? I guess.

2027
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't legally know how you would litigate that,

2028
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 3: and if that was uh, yeah, I don't know how

2029
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 3: you would.

2030
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 5: Do it, because that don't mean the incident didn't not happen.

2031
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, at the time, according to the lawsuits, she told

2032
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 3: a few close friends, but it wasn't until other women

2033
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 3: came forward with allegation that she decided to move forward

2034
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 3: on on and turn Simmons a response to the suit,

2035
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 3: claiming that the sexual relationship between the two is consentual.

2036
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 3: He also referenced to text messages of unsolicited news Jurassic

2037
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 3: seeing him after the alleged rape, using his proof that

2038
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 3: she was in it for the money. Since then, though,

2039
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 3: the lawsuit has been dismissed. So yeah, both parties filed

2040
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 3: a joint stipulation of dismisal with prejudice, meaning that she

2041
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 3: cannot refile.

2042
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 4: So maybe he paid him, maybe he didn't.

2043
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:26,799
Speaker 3: Maybe literally the judge looked at that and said, that's fishy,

2044
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 3: because they also said there were tech messages and shit,

2045
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:31,640
Speaker 3: So I don't know that.

2046
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,559
Speaker 4: Shit's always complicated. But she ain't the only one.

2047
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 3: Accusing him, and even if this is a case of

2048
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 3: false accusation, I literally hope that people don't go well,

2049
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 3: then all the other ten women must be lying, because

2050
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:44,839
Speaker 3: that's that's what people.

2051
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 4: Try to do with Bill Cosby too correct. So yep,

2052
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 4: let's do one more.

2053
01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 3: This one, ah, this one, This one hurts. This one

2054
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 3: hurts not for the man, but for another reason, which

2055
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 3: will be clear in the second. So Tom broke ow

2056
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 3: is accused of sexual harassment by a former NBC anchor.

2057
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 3: Lynda Vester had his reputation for covering tough stories as

2058
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 3: a war correspondent for NBC News in the nineties. She

2059
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:16,760
Speaker 3: spent three towards the duty in the Middle East and

2060
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 3: took to assignments in Africa, and it goes on and

2061
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 3: on about how you know she was, you know, she

2062
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 3: was a very good journalist and shit, and then this nigga,

2063
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 3: she said, harassed her. She alleged he physically tried to

2064
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:36,759
Speaker 3: force her to kiss him on two separate occasions, groked

2065
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 3: her in an NBC conference room and showed up that

2066
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 3: her hotel room uninvited. Two friends who vested told at

2067
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 3: the time. Co roberated a story with Variety, and she

2068
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 3: shared her journal entries from the time here.

2069
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 4: Bro Kyle, who has been.

2070
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:50,680
Speaker 3: Married to Meredith All since nineteen sixty two, has never

2071
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 3: before been publicly accused of sexual harassment. A statement from him,

2072
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:56,680
Speaker 3: supplied by NBC News spokesman Broke How said, of the allegations,

2073
01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 3: I met will Linda vest On two occasions, both of

2074
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 3: her requests twenty three years ago because she you wanted

2075
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 3: advice to respect her career at NBC. The meetings were

2076
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 3: bree cordial, in appropriate, and despite lends allegations, I made

2077
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 3: no romantic overchoice towards her at the time, at that

2078
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 3: time or any other Now.

2079
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:12,839
Speaker 4: I'm not saying whatever, but.

2080
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 3: The thing is, you really think she waited fucking twenty

2081
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 3: three years to bring this shit up for no reason

2082
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 3: at all.

2083
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 4: That was the big conspiracy plan.

2084
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:27,759
Speaker 3: Yes, if I wait twenty three years, women will eventually

2085
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 3: form a.

2086
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 4: Movement via social media that will enable us.

2087
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 3: It's like, come on, yeah, No, nobody has no idea.

2088
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 3: She was twenty eighty the time of the alleged incident.

2089
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 3: She said she didn't report his conduct to the police

2090
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 3: or NBC human resources because she was scared of within

2091
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:41,560
Speaker 3: her career. She left NBC in nineteen ninety nine and

2092
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 3: went on the anchor her own show on Fox News through.

2093
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:44,760
Speaker 4: Two thousand and six.

2094
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 3: She's speaking out now because she believes the story shared

2095
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,839
Speaker 3: lights on the culture of NBC News what she believes

2096
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 3: male boss has treated their female colleagues's objects. At the

2097
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 3: Today co host Matt Loule was fired for inappropriate conduct

2098
01:40:56,120 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 3: involving the NBC employee last November. Now, one thing, it's

2099
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 3: interesting she works at Fox News, so like speaking of

2100
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 3: places where they don't treat women good like you would.

2101
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 3: If you would, then you would have really jumped out

2102
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:10,680
Speaker 3: of the paying to the to the fr to the

2103
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 3: fire on that one man just to do news. That's crazy, man,

2104
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:17,599
Speaker 3: I can't imagine my life being like that.

2105
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 4: I want to be a news anchor.

2106
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 3: Well, I hope you're ready for people to try to

2107
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:24,040
Speaker 3: fuck you any chance to get I don't want to

2108
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 3: be a news anchor no more like what the fuck

2109
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:29,639
Speaker 3: uh well Linda is doing like others before her. Oh wait,

2110
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 3: so then this is the part.

2111
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 4: That that really bothered me. Though.

2112
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 3: The women who work at MSNBC and NBC put out

2113
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 3: a letter where they all signed it to say that

2114
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:59,759
Speaker 3: that he's always treated them right and like Rachel Maddow

2115
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 3: was one of the people that sign that ship.

2116
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 5: Why are people doing this?

2117
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 6: Why because your relationship with him has nothing to do

2118
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 6: with how he treated me right And my.

2119
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 3: Thing is, even if I believe him and I don't

2120
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:18,599
Speaker 3: think he did it, why the fuck would I put

2121
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 3: Why would I put a letter out to Why would

2122
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 3: I I would just be like, well, we'll see what happens.

2123
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:29,599
Speaker 4: I don't know. I wasn't there.

2124
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 3: I hope you didn't do it. They come out two

2125
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 3: weeks later that photograph evidence. Now my letter, my name's

2126
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:37,759
Speaker 3: on a letter that makes it seem like I fucking

2127
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 3: co signed you being.

2128
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 4: Abuseful towards this woman.

2129
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:42,000
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm mm hmmmm.

2130
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:44,760
Speaker 3: And now their NBC staffords are coming out saying they

2131
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 3: felt pressure to sign the letter defending him. You know,

2132
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, the amount of bravery I guess

2133
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 3: needed to fucking stop this ship will require somebody being like,

2134
01:42:57,560 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 3: I'm not signing this ship.

2135
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 4: No, Like this feels wrong.

2136
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 6: I know if he did it or not, but I'm

2137
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 6: not signing this shit because if it goes to the left.

2138
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:08,360
Speaker 5: I'm gonna look like a motherfucking food.

2139
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 3: Rachel Maddow, Mika Razinski Andrea Mitchell and Maria Shriver signed

2140
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:13,599
Speaker 3: this shit?

2141
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 4: Like, why how can you do that in any good conscience? Man? Man?

2142
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 5: Because you don't know, you.

2143
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:21,720
Speaker 6: Don't know what's gonna come out, you don't know what

2144
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 6: information is there, Like you're.

2145
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 4: Gonna hide it behind some legally trash like.

2146
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I was just only saying that he had

2147
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 3: never treated me bad, which is true. I mean, you

2148
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:34,120
Speaker 3: can't say that, you know, I mean, this is technically

2149
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 3: man like, Nah, nigga, just don't sign it? No, well

2150
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 3: do you are you saying? Look what I'm saying is

2151
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 3: I'm not signing that shit.

2152
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 4: You know.

2153
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:47,720
Speaker 3: It's like that woman from Transparent.

2154
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:47,679
Speaker 4: The other day.

2155
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 3: She had a great statement, Hey, you know what, it's

2156
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 3: not about how I feel, and it's not about how

2157
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 3: I was treated. Just because he didn't treat me that

2158
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 3: way does not mean he didn't treat these women this way.

2159
01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:59,640
Speaker 3: And it's more important the voice of the victims be

2160
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 3: support it and their stories be heard.

2161
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 4: Let's leave it.

2162
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 5: At that, right, because that's the thing.

2163
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 6: Abuses don't abuse every fucking body that cross.

2164
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 4: Right. Ridiculous?

2165
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:12,680
Speaker 3: All right, man, Let's do some sored ratchiness and get

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Speaker 3: out of here. We talked for a while. We went

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Speaker 3: a little bit over.

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Speaker 5: Time, y'all some extra time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all got a little extra today. You know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back tomorrow too to do this. We'll probably

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Speaker 3: do a lot more funnier shit. I feel like today's

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Speaker 3: shows a little.

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Speaker 4: A little bit of a downer. But you know what,

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Speaker 4: that's that's that's real life.

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Speaker 5: Come on, it's so much shit to be happening.

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Speaker 4: You know, I ain't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm not out here to pretend for y'all with to

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Speaker 3: be corny or whatever. You know, the show's not always

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01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 3: a bucket. The last when I was life sucks all right?

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01:44:41,439 --> 01:45:07,440
Speaker 3: Sore ratching this time? How about this one? A Lafayette

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Speaker 3: man is sentenced to probation and work release in a

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Speaker 3: samurai sword incident.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 3: He's accused of trying to stablish his roommate with a

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Speaker 3: Samarax sword. His sentence to jail, work release, and probation

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Speaker 3: last week after accepting a plea deal that saw prosecutors

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Speaker 3: dropped the attempted murder charge he initially faced.

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Speaker 4: See we don't take this shit seriously.

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Speaker 3: Devin trey Leeks, twenty two, pleaded guilty to one kind

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Speaker 3: of attempted second degree assaw with a daily weapon on

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Speaker 3: February first, in exchange for prosecutors dropping charges of attempted murder,

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Speaker 3: attempted first degree of saw felony menacing. He was sentenced

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Speaker 3: Friday to six months of jail, work release and three

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Speaker 3: years of probation. Got off light for somebody to try

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Speaker 3: to kill somebody with a sword because Leech was on

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Speaker 3: probation for a twenty sixteen minicing case at the time

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Speaker 3: of the offense. He also was given a ten day

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Speaker 3: work crew sentence for violation of his probation. So he

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Speaker 3: was already a menacing motherfucker went a case o him

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Speaker 3: and he still got this light.

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Speaker 6: Ass sentence and they not talking about his face being minicing.

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Speaker 5: He was doing some shit.

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Speaker 3: He tried to kill some people and is but this

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Speaker 3: is oh, I guess it's okay. Well, okay, this time

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Speaker 3: you get work release.

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Speaker 4: Nigga. Okay, some ud said white?

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Speaker 5: What color is he?

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Speaker 4: Oh? He white? He looked white as hell.

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Speaker 3: The police will call to the apartment on September second,

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Speaker 3: report of a fight.

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Speaker 4: Leach and what other person?

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Speaker 3: We're drinking in the apartment When his roommate came home

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Speaker 3: least begain demanded money from the roommate and a verbal

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Speaker 3: argument started. Leech then began to try and fight his

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Speaker 3: roommate and adult male and he grabbed the sam Ross

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Speaker 3: hold into the stabf and the roommate was somehow able

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Speaker 3: to block the attack and lock himself in the bedroom

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Speaker 3: till police arrived. The roommate had cut some straps, but

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Speaker 3: the climb medical treatment on the scene. Police said at

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Speaker 3: least initially fled the scene, but eventually was arrested by

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Speaker 3: police officers. All right, guys, that is it for today

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Speaker 3: for premium people. I just want to let y'all know

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Speaker 3: we may we may or may not do Boss Deep

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Speaker 3: this week, just as traveling and we'll see you know.

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Speaker 3: And also I could use the break. I'm a little tired.

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Speaker 3: We need to take more breaks. Despite what care trying

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Speaker 3: to make me do all this extra work, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: stick to my guns.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because I y'all just don't know. I was trying

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Speaker 5: to make him.

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Speaker 3: He was like no, yeah, I had to tell her no,

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Speaker 3: that was it was getting ridiculous. Okay, work hard as is.

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Speaker 3: But speaking of working hard, you also will be getting

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Speaker 3: in your feed this week. Me and Amber p of

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Speaker 3: the Black Chick Watching podcast we reviewed all season. We

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01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:42,800
Speaker 3: did all season review for Jessica Jones season two, so

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Speaker 3: I think you guys will enjoy that.

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Speaker 4: If you watch Jessica.

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Speaker 3: Jones and uh you love hated the characters on there

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Speaker 3: as much as we did, I think you will be

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Speaker 3: looking forward to that. So thank you guys for listening

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Speaker 3: and we'll be back tomorrow. Until then, I love you.