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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast never gets at Chris Wesley

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Speaker 1: references Welcome back to another edition of the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas, and I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Christopher Westling and

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Speaker 1: Greg ros And thought, what's up boys, slap in the

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Speaker 1: face to a guy that's just come back. You take

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Speaker 1: a shot at him right out of the right out

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Speaker 1: of the gate. Well, yes, I listen, that was That

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Speaker 1: wasn't me. I had nothing to do with that. That

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Speaker 1: was behind the glass. Zack Goldman rolling in a little

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Speaker 1: late tonight. Let's talk about it was a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a flurry of traffic. Um. But Zack's here. He

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Speaker 1: throws up a Chris Westling sound dropping. Why not, because

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling's back from Tybee Island. Welcome back, Mr Westling,

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Speaker 1: to be here. We as we when we talked to you,

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Speaker 1: when we finally got you on the horn there at

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Speaker 1: Hucka Poos, you said you were looking forward to returning.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think in the back of all

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Speaker 1: of our minds, like, well, but will he actually return?

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Speaker 1: But here you are in the flesh. I believe what

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Speaker 1: I actually said was I'm not coming back. You did

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Speaker 1: say that at one point, you did say that, but

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Speaker 1: you've missed us ultimately, I did. I missed you guys,

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Speaker 1: And uh you noticed Welcome about Cotter one of your

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Speaker 1: shows from the seventies. I dropped the song as as

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Speaker 1: modern as most of Chris's references. That was by design.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't alive when this show. Well, I might have

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Speaker 1: been a lot, but I didn't see it in first running.

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Speaker 1: Um so yeah, so a successful trip home exceeded all expectations.

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Speaker 1: I had a I had a blast. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I've laughed so much in my whole life. We also

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Speaker 1: have that post tybee Chris Westling voice right now where

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Speaker 1: this is much better than it was through a little throaty.

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Speaker 1: It's not you're not gonna be hitting the high notes

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Speaker 1: put it that way, but you're getting by with it

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Speaker 1: right now. I'm getting by. My theory for how this

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Speaker 1: at loud bars. Is that a fair theory? Like you're

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Speaker 1: missing one key element? But possibly I think I've found

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Speaker 1: in my nights and nights out with West and there

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Speaker 1: have been quite a few at this point. Chris is

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Speaker 1: a natural voice raisor when the when the imbibing begins.

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Speaker 1: So I think it doesn't need you need to be

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Speaker 1: a lot bar just multiple nights out. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: you're closer to the truth there. I come from a

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Speaker 1: big family and sometimes in order to get a word

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Speaker 1: and that comes out after a couple of beverages. And

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like a big family on Type I

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Speaker 1: know we're all trying to get jokes in. You know.

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Speaker 1: I know Chris that you mentioned that you spent a

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Speaker 1: lot of time on TYPEE in area soup kitchens, helping

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Speaker 1: out with some of the inhabitants that that don't have

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Speaker 1: what other people have to tell us about that that's

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Speaker 1: just patently false. Uh So, yes, Chris Westling's back. It's

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Speaker 1: the four of us together, which has not been a

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Speaker 1: common occurrence since the Super Bowl. So it's good to

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Speaker 1: be here as we get closer and closer to the draft.

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Speaker 1: We have a nice show. We got two shows this

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Speaker 1: week and and those that works back in the show

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Speaker 1: on Monday. Listen. Greg and I were in the office

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Speaker 1: yesterday and Mark was on his off day and west

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Speaker 1: was traveling away. Why don't we just push it today.

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Speaker 1: We'll get everybody back to get the band back together.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about Delaware, but if you do

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Speaker 1: have Delaware tapes again, we're gonna put out a call

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Speaker 1: at around the NFL. If you have any footage of

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Speaker 1: Delaware the band Greg's uh goth band from the late nineties,

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Speaker 1: please send it our way, goth Emo. Uh, we will

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Speaker 1: give you a generous Uh. You're a proto Emo. All right,

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Speaker 1: it's a nice show today, nice show today, the Welcome

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Speaker 1: Back West show. Uh, we are going to uh get

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Speaker 1: into We're gonna bring back What's more Likely one of

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Speaker 1: our favorite games and you know, kind of a pre

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Speaker 1: draft edition go through. There's a lot of different things

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Speaker 1: cooking right now. As uh Mark, I know you as

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Speaker 1: a draft Nick you're plugged in especially, but there's a

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Speaker 1: lot cooking behind this. This is when the homework, you know,

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Speaker 1: every re night you go homie just grinding through that

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Speaker 1: Central Illinois tape looking for that gem. Yeah, that's why

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Speaker 1: I call you grind this time of season. That's how

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Speaker 1: So we'll play some What's more Likely Draft edition? Uh,

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Speaker 1: and we will also hit the news, which we have

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Speaker 1: a nice bit of news to get to. Not it's

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Speaker 1: just want to let everyone know that we're going to

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Speaker 1: Dalton Scale, breaking down where everyone fits in and the

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Speaker 1: quarterback solar system, and we're hoping by the end of

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Speaker 1: the show that Dan will understand what is well that

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Speaker 1: and there will be the reveal whether I get it

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Speaker 1: by that point right now, completely in the woods. That's

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Speaker 1: really the main reason for this exercise. But gold standard

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Speaker 1: a real female dog, right buddy. I wouldn't say I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say speeding delicately gliding traffic. I picture Zach, who's

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Speaker 1: usually like a picture of tranquility, millennial tranquility, steering wheel,

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Speaker 1: and dang. It wasn't got to drop that trat. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: sometimes they use parlance of your favorite sport. You get

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Speaker 1: a bicycle kick right to the head to you this morning. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's do some news, buddy. Let's do it,

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Speaker 1: and we forgive you, by the way, thank you, because

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Speaker 1: just a few weeks. Yeah, I'm saving every moment. You're

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Speaker 1: But maybe that was more a tease to let us

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Speaker 1: know that, you know, don't you know, don't get around.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with uh really the one of the bigger

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, Greg, where does he stack up

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Speaker 1: Football Perspective wrote an interesting article, or actually I believe

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Speaker 1: it was what is it dot Com? Looking at Paula

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Speaker 1: You can say his play has fallen off, but there

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Speaker 1: you're not going to replace him in Pittsburgh for decades.

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Speaker 1: You're not. He ended up homeless, which I found to

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Speaker 1: And sometimes people call it instincts or you know, freestyling

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Speaker 1: I feel like I Taylor and in recent years has

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Speaker 1: Trent Richardson again if that counts. Uh. Movie of the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. They love Ryan Tannhill. Ryan Tannehill. He's

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Speaker 1: a franchise star. We we know wes that Uh, Mike

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Speaker 1: Tannebaum came out and said at the end NFL Annual

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Speaker 1: Meeting that, uh, they they've identified U Tannehill is the

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Speaker 1: future of the franchise. They want a huge deal. NFL

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Speaker 1: media insider Ian Rappaport said Monday on NFL Total Access,

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Speaker 1: which mark is the flagship program of Yes. And also,

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Speaker 1: while we're doing drops or I'm doing drops, we should

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Speaker 1: also mention that Ike Taylors on a Dave Damashek football

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Speaker 1: program this week two shows, is any the co host

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Speaker 1: now this week he is. So if you want to

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Speaker 1: get if your Steelers fan, you've got a jones in

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Speaker 1: for for some nostalgy, you go tune into that, but

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Speaker 1: listen to us first Ryan Tannehill. Uh Ian reports they

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Speaker 1: want to get this deal done before the start of

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Speaker 1: the new season. This is a little different between how

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Speaker 1: the culture uh dealing with Andrew Luck, both players drafted

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Speaker 1: the same year in the first round. UM Jim Ursey said,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna wait till after the season to deal with

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. The Dobbins want to deal with Ryan Tannehill

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Speaker 1: right now. And Greg, what is the rush to get

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Speaker 1: a deal done. Is it because they're they're already aware

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Speaker 1: they're boxing themselves in financially because of that Sue deal. No,

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Speaker 1: I think it's smart to get a deal done before

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson happens, before Andrew Luck and before that two

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Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen option comes up, because basically, if they

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Speaker 1: want to keep him with that option next year, it'll

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Speaker 1: be sixteen fifteen, sixteen million dollars. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: want to pay him that much and guaranteed money per year,

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Speaker 1: maybe it'll be around that, So why not sign him now?

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Speaker 1: The only risk is they might have a different offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator in a year. Be sure. If he was their

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Speaker 1: quarterback week four this most recent season and now they're

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Speaker 1: in a rush to make him a hundred million dollar player,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It just seems like a little while

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Speaker 1: we rush into the all so we don't know he's

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Speaker 1: got dollars. I don't know he's got well, there have

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Speaker 1: been reports out there that he could fetch something in that.

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Speaker 1: But here's the issue, because you look at this offseason

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Speaker 1: for the nine or ten teams that don't have that quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you're out there picking up scraps, so you're Tannehill. No

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Speaker 1: one's saying Tannehel is the top five quarterback. We don't

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Speaker 1: know his ceiling like we do we Andy Dalton, that

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Speaker 1: would be the difference. I feel like Andy Dalton that

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Speaker 1: they went and paid him got better at me. Well,

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Speaker 1: we don't, yees, so we don't know what's gonna be ahead.

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Speaker 1: But if you're them, you don't just start over unless

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Speaker 1: you have a high draft pick. And well, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying men start over, but you have some time to

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Speaker 1: play with here, you have through next season, and they

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Speaker 1: want to get a deal done before this upcoming season

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Speaker 1: even happens. I don't know. I'm just saying, yeah, he

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Speaker 1: has improved each year. But and West, you said, you're

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Speaker 1: not really all unnecessarily on the type of offense Miami runs.

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Speaker 1: Are we that sold at this guy? I don't think

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Speaker 1: is convinced anyone he's a franchise quarterback except Mike Tannembaum.

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Speaker 1: Well it's crazy though he Mike tanne has never gotten

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Speaker 1: a quarterback decision wrong. By the way the system sizes

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Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez go ahead. The system is friendly two quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: And I agree, it was tough to kind of unpack

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Speaker 1: how much of it was Tannaelle. How much of it

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Speaker 1: was a system. That is the system that's there. You

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Speaker 1: look at his numbers we were looking at when we

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Speaker 1: did the NFL now hit on it. Four thousand yards,

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Speaker 1: twenty seven touchdowns, twelve interceptions a few years ago. Those

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Speaker 1: that's like Drew Brees numbers. That's the top six seven

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. The numbers are different now in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, but that is the system that they have

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Speaker 1: that The risk, like I said, is that laser is

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Speaker 1: not gonna be there in a year or two. If

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Speaker 1: Philip blows this. That's the difference between Tannehill and Nick Fulls.

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Speaker 1: Much better two thousand thirteen than Tannehill did last year,

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Speaker 1: but he was also a product of a system. I

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Speaker 1: think he's well, he's more physically gifted, but Fulls performed better.

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Speaker 1: And but he's well. To put to your argument, we

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Speaker 1: just saw a team trade away what they thought was

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Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback for Nick Foles. So you're in that

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Speaker 1: swamp of eight to ten guys that we aren't sold on.

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Speaker 1: But if you're an NFL general manager and a head coach,

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Speaker 1: do you take Tannehill, do you go get Josh mccownt right,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have Tannehill like Dominicans, who's making twenty million

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Speaker 1: a year. I really think I'd rather have Tannehill and

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Speaker 1: just in a total vacuum where my options is Sue

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Speaker 1: and whatever quarterback you can get or Tannehill. I'll just

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Speaker 1: take Tannehill and that let me Sue and I'll give

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Speaker 1: a decent quarter of it. Who would you get? Though?

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Speaker 1: That's I think. I don't know. But we complain that

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Speaker 1: the Bengals are stuck in purgatory because of Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins are also stuck in purgatory because of rant

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Speaker 1: I think he's going up. I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: ten and six every year. I want to win a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Dolphins would love to go ten and six, right,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Look, the Bengals are happy being

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Speaker 1: ten and six, and we pick on him for it.

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Speaker 1: Other Dolphins news, the center for the Dolphins, Mike Pounceys

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Speaker 1: has a new deal five years worth more than fifty million,

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Speaker 1: over twenty million and guarantees. According to rap Sheet, this

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Speaker 1: is the same Mike Pouncey who you know has come

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Speaker 1: under fire for some stuff off the field. He owns

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Speaker 1: a free Hernandez hat, for instance, also was tied into

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Speaker 1: that bullying scandal. Uh loyal boy to Richie Incognito. However,

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Speaker 1: he thanked the Dolphins for being loyal to him. He's

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Speaker 1: obviously a high end player in the middle of that line.

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Speaker 1: So they lock him up, they keep the center and

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Speaker 1: hopefully they'll keep the quarterback and then they have a

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Speaker 1: nice little dynamic there. Well, I couldn't help but think,

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Speaker 1: and I know we're not allowed to talk about this

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Speaker 1: really at the NFL Media News group, but I couldn't

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Speaker 1: help but think of the contrast when I was watching

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Speaker 1: Mike Pouncy crying, you know, at his UM press conference,

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Speaker 1: very emotional about the faith in the contract that he

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Speaker 1: got that across you know, the country. That same day,

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Speaker 1: jurors are deliberating over Aaron Hernandez murder trial. And these

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Speaker 1: guys were best friends and that I have no real

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Speaker 1: point to that, but it was just like, what a

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Speaker 1: contract between gets your point? I think it's made with Mark.

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Speaker 1: I also agree. I don't even know what my point is.

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Speaker 1: It's not mask poun as some sort of you know,

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Speaker 1: solid citizen theres all sorts. Was not my point. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was more just like these two teammates the two

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Speaker 1: different roads that they're they're ro well, I went, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if Mike Pouncy is I would have a

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Speaker 1: nice time with Mike Pouncy. Yeah, not exactly. Put it

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Speaker 1: this way, like if he was on the free agent list,

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't be on the l. A gray Beard's not

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Speaker 1: a good locker room guy. Keep him Mike Pouncy off

554
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Speaker 1: my team. But you know, the Dolphins of the Dolplins

555
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Speaker 1: are gonna do what they want to do, all right.

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Speaker 1: Here's something interesting finally that came out of San Diego,

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Speaker 1: the you teach Rebune Kevin a C who is their

558
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Speaker 1: longtime beat writer now a columnist, and it is very

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Speaker 1: tight with Philip Rivers, so tight that they've done uh

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Speaker 1: you know, benefits together, raising money, fundraisers and obviously a

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Speaker 1: good healthy relationship there. And a C is a respected

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Speaker 1: voice in that sports scene, says that the time is

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Speaker 1: now to trade Philip Rivers if Marcus Mariotta is the man,

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Speaker 1: and a C goes, um, you know, pretty deep into

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Speaker 1: explaining why he thinks that possible, tying into the possible

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Speaker 1: relocation of the Chargers and Philip Rivers. At age thirty three,

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Speaker 1: maybe his wish to move back East for the end

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Speaker 1: of his career. And if all that stuff is lined

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Speaker 1: up and and they love Mariotta, maybe now is the

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Speaker 1: time to pull the Regor mark uh. First of all,

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Speaker 1: do you read into this at all Kevin a cy

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Speaker 1: a true boy of Philip Rivers saying trade Phil Rivers? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's if he he clearly clearly knows that Philip Rivers

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Speaker 1: does not want to go to Los Angeles. And I

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Speaker 1: think that maybe the flip side is if you want

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Speaker 1: to get any sort of benefit from Rivers at the

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Speaker 1: tail end of his career, and you want to make

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Speaker 1: a move, and you can do it with the Titans,

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Speaker 1: for instance, Greg was hot on this this morning. That's

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Speaker 1: your target, I guess, Tennessee. And you go up and

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Speaker 1: you start over the same way they did with Breeze

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Speaker 1: into Rivers. I have a good idea, but I just

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Speaker 1: think if they love Mariota, then that's the only way

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Speaker 1: in they're meeting with him today. You could possibly make

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Speaker 1: the argument for this if you just love Marcus Mariota. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now I guess you think about it, but that it

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00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: seems crazy to me. I wouldn't do it. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember a draft. I'm sure there is every year, but

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Speaker 1: this one sticks out to me where all the experts

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Speaker 1: have no clue what's going on with Marcus Mariota. Where

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Speaker 1: you've seen him going anywhere from one to the second

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Speaker 1: round and only he doesn't have character concerns. This is

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Speaker 1: purely based upon, uh, what they think his ceiling is

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Speaker 1: as a player. It seems like Mariota is either the

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Speaker 1: hottest property in the draft or some something that teams

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Speaker 1: are afraid to get in business with. I'd be a

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Speaker 1: little scary to me. It's a little bit like the

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Speaker 1: two thousand and seven class guys like Locker and and

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Speaker 1: blame Gabbert's I said seven, he said eleven. Listen, Tybee

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Speaker 1: Island does that to him? Well, Locker and Gabbert were

601
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Speaker 1: talked about at one point going number one or two

602
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Speaker 1: overall in the draft, and they ended up going eight.

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Speaker 1: And Ponder was supposed to be in the second round

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Speaker 1: he ended up number twelve. I mean, it does happen.

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Speaker 1: Gino Smith at one point was thought of as a

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Speaker 1: possible that top five pick with Mariotta, though I just

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Speaker 1: don't under I mean that is a move that you're

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Speaker 1: just putting it out all out on the table, because

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00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: that's the type of move that gets everyone fired. And

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Speaker 1: you're saying, Okay, this is the time to get some

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00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: value out of Philip Rivers. But you know what's a

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Speaker 1: great value having Philip Rivers on your team for the

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Speaker 1: next three or four years while he's still a top

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Speaker 1: ten quarterback because I think he can and will be

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Speaker 1: well unless he refuses to play there that But that's

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Speaker 1: the other part of it. I don't think that because

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Speaker 1: the Chargers, if anything, who knows what, whether we can

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Speaker 1: believe it, have said very strongly there is no way

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Speaker 1: we're moving Philip Rivers. I guess my My thought is,

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Speaker 1: you have them under contract this year, you have the

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Speaker 1: franchise tag next year. If he doesn't want to play

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Speaker 1: in l A call his bluff. I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: I would. I would. It's hard for me to imagine

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Speaker 1: Philip rid Be's like not, I'm just gonna be done

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Speaker 1: with football. I'm not gonna take the twenty million. I'm

626
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Speaker 1: just not gonna play the sport I love because I

627
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: don't like kids, because I don't like driving up the five,

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Speaker 1: and I like the South. I mean that seems a

629
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Speaker 1: little wacky. People from the South are a little wacky.

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Speaker 1: I was just there it is. Anybody taking it a

631
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Speaker 1: little personally is a Los Angeles residents at all percolating? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think if you have you have kids to get

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Speaker 1: into school, you can start to see where it all.

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Speaker 1: It's not have any worries about school systems. And if

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Speaker 1: he whatever issues he has with l A is not

636
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Speaker 1: going to be you know, having to buy a small

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Speaker 1: apartment complex and South Central is going to live in

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Speaker 1: the most glorious part of the city. So I don't

639
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: think he does have a huge issues. That would be

640
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: a good sitcom. Actually rivers and all the kids move

641
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: into you know, something on the other side of the

642
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: tracks tracks. I don't know. I've I've come to like

643
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, but I could definitely see why it's not

644
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: for everyone. It's definitely not a city for everyone. By

645
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: the way, this would require the Tennessee Titans to do

646
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: something edgy and you know, unpredictable for the first time

647
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: in a decade. So let's not jump the gun here. Yeah,

648
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If Tennessee has a chance to do it,

649
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: do it. Do everything you can. This is your this

650
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: is your chance, and that this is a miracle. If

651
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: this ever happened this way got Mettger. There are I

652
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: don't even know. I mean, I'm not even familiar with

653
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: who you're talking about. The Tutans or if they if

654
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: this franchise, that Tono sutine Tons pulled off the straight,

655
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: we would talk about that team. How about this maneuver?

656
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: Cleveland gets into number two by giving both their number

657
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: one picks to Tennessee. Then they trade for Rivers, who

658
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: can't be more excited about getting his seven kids into

659
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: the Cleveland school system. I know, I heard you guys

660
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: shred me on now for that clown car. Yeah, Sessler

661
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: came to man clown car Cessler Cavin breathing fire this

662
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: morning because of this Rivers article seven months now, it's legitimate.

663
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: Now trading Philip Rivers now we can discuss it. Whatever

664
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: you clown, Philip Rivers is not going to Cleveland if

665
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to go to l A. Well, which

666
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: team I'll ask you this, which team has been actively

667
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: trying to trade for a quarterback and has been doggedly

668
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: willing to take risks? The Titans or the Browns. The

669
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: Titans are frozen in snow, but they're underneath the Chargers

670
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: are gonna ship Phil Rivers the damn Ohio. Well, if

671
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: Cleveland got the number two pick, shouldn't start to change,

672
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: not saying with where they are now, they're only trade

673
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: him if they get Mariota in this scenario or Damis wins.

674
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: How did Rivers come into the league. Maybe he goes

675
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: right out of San Diego, the same way with massive

676
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: draft day trade scenarios. Okay, sorry to dream clowns. I

677
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: don't want to take a personal because I'm not taking

678
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: it personal. But it was like the one time, when

679
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 1: I'm gone for three or four days, I hear like,

680
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: you're getting buried on NFL now by a couple of shmoos.

681
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: How I said was that's a pipe dream. I don't

682
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: think we buried too. I didn't even watch it, so

683
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: I don't know play the second. This is all falling apart.

684
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening. Okay, let's move on now

685
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: to um Listen one of our favorite games. It has

686
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: a very simple title, what is it Why? From Culver City, California.

687
00:33:52,560 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: It's America's favorite game show more. That's right, another edition

688
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: of What's More Likely where we throw out some different possibilities,

689
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: and we ask the audience what is more likely? Uh

690
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: so we will will go through it. I came up

691
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: with a few of them. I know you guys came

692
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: up with a couple as well. Uh So, let's get

693
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: right to it. But Greg Roosvelaw is another high octane

694
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: meeting to get to. So let's get to it. Let's

695
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: go with the first one. All right, we just talked

696
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: about the what's more likely the Chargers trade Philip Rivers

697
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: and draft Marcus Mariotta or the Vikings trade Adrian Peterson

698
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: and draft Melvin Gordon. I'll go first and say that

699
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 1: the Chargers are more likely, partly just because of probability here.

700
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: The Melvin Gordon thing makes it a little tougher to

701
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: just know that they're gonna go for that running. I'll

702
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: either either one. I'm still gonna go with the Chargers

703
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: and may I don't think it's more likely than not

704
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 1: to happen. And but just there's been so much smoke

705
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: about this, and on some level it does make a

706
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: little bit of sense for everyone involved if they truly

707
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: love Mariota. I agree, I think it's likely that the

708
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: Vikings trade Adrian Peterson, but the Melvin Gordon Park or

709
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. Part throws me off. I think they like

710
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: Jerick McKinnon, So I don't know. Really, I do think

711
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: they like him. I don't know. Matt Asiata was there

712
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: being guy down the stretch. He was playing pretty much

713
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: only because McKinnon was injured, right, But I mean he

714
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: looked he got injured quickly. He doesn't look like a

715
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: guy that could carry the load. Peterson call McKinnon one

716
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: of the best athletes he's ever practice with. Touchet Um

717
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: I will I will also go Chargers because there just

718
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: seems to be more heat. It's the age of the player.

719
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: I think Rivers still has something left. But also these

720
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: other teams that might want Peterson, the Cowboys of the Cardinals,

721
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: they can go out and draft the running back to

722
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: how about just Rivers or Peterson? Who's more likely to

723
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: get trade Peterson? M Peterson. He's just he's the one

724
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: that's openly unhappy right now. Maybe Rivers is too. But

725
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: by the way, this is shaping up for some fireworks

726
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: here in this draft. You don't need to be a

727
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: draft to get excited about a possible Philip Rivers and

728
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson that's good because no quarterbacks going to the

729
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: draft more. All right, Marks, Brown's draft a quarterback in

730
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: the first round for the third time in four years,

731
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: or Johnny Manzel starts at least five games this season.

732
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: Mark will start with you, Well, I think it's hard

733
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: to get up I mean, because they let's let's remove

734
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: drafting someone in the sixth round or something like that. Okay,

735
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: first round, Okay, so it's I'll go Manzel starting five

736
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: games just because part of it is you gotta get

737
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: up there and get Mariota. That's not easy. I'm gonna

738
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: go whatever the answer, it doesn't matter what you put

739
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: up against my Manzel starting five games. I'm not taking

740
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: Manzel starting five games because I can't imagine that happening.

741
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: But I really can't. Isn't it possible. It's one of

742
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: those stories where but I'm buying it, you're buying all right,

743
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm picking Manzel starting five games. That's I'm kind of

744
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: with that too. I think that people are kind of

745
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: first of all, Josh mccownst inks. Secondly, secondly, well we

746
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: know that, but secondly, like this idea that the Browns

747
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: are gonna draft a quarterback again early and I don't

748
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: buy it. I think they're gonna go a different route

749
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: this time. And Manzel, once he's in camp and he's

750
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: if he shows some growth and and makes him plays

751
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: him account's not playing well, I think they're gonna take

752
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: another look. I think there's there's a good chance he's

753
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: not good at professional football. Okay, well that's possible, but

754
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: five more games to find that out isn't crazy. And

755
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: there hasn't been a sixteen game starter in Cleveland in

756
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: thirteen years. How many first round quarterbacks never got a

757
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: chance to start at least eight games in their career.

758
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he won't start ever again for any team,

759
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: but yeah, a big chunk of this season. I guess

760
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting it. That's obviously. I would say it

761
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: would be a bad kind of brownsy mistake if they

762
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: cut chord on him without at least giving a chance

763
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: to do something on the field. I know they're they're

764
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: pissed about how this played out, and they should be,

765
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: but I don't know. It feels like it would be

766
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: a mistake not to at least give him a shot.

767
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: It's it's the combination of of the off field than

768
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: the on field with the on field, the beautiful combination

769
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: of right being just as big, if not bigger for me,

770
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: that he really struggled in practicing in the game was

771
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: more likely. You let me just do a little set

772
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: up for this one, because Zach Mettenberger. There was a

773
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: columnist in in Tennessee that wrote that he knows what's

774
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: going on inside the Titans, and they are all in

775
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: on Zach Mettenberger. They believe that he is a poor

776
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: man's Tom Brady. That was the exact words in the article.

777
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, for that reason, don't expect them

778
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: to be making any bold move for a quarterback in

779
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: Chicago later this month. So uh, with that in mind,

780
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: what's more likely Zach Mettenberger has voted to a Pro

781
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: Bowl and not at alternate, none of that garbage. He's

782
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: voted to a Pro Bowl in the next ten years,

783
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: or Ken wizzen Hunt and Rust and Webster are unemployed

784
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 1: by the end of January. Come on, I'm giving Zach

785
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: ten years to get to the Pro way. More likely

786
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: that Rust and Webster and Ken wizen Hunt are unemployed it,

787
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: especially if this is the decision they're going for. That's

788
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: kind of what I was going for here. Yeah, I

789
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: agree with that ownership change potentially, that's that seems in

790
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: a lot of crazy though, who the football genius is.

791
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: Who's telling David Climber that Bettenberger's poor man's Tom Brady

792
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: only because they were both drafted in the He wasn't.

793
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: I actually am love the mind that Mettenberger was not

794
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: bad as a rookie. I know, West, You've been all

795
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: over the map on this. He wasn't. He wasn't that bad.

796
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: He wasn't worse than Derek Carr or we ended up.

797
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm not a big quarterback raiding fan, but for for

798
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: what it's worth, the quarterback rade, it's about the same

799
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: as Tom Brady. But you're not a quarterback his first

800
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: We've already gone over this. Everything he did was in

801
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: garbage time or fluke place. But my point though is,

802
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: even if you're grading him on the nicest way possible,

803
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to come up with that he's

804
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: the guy that you're going to pass on rivers or

805
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: the number to pick for. Like even if you're thinking, wow, like,

806
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: what's the best case scenario. He's the fourteenth best quarterback

807
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: in the league. That's in a good scenario. Doesn't that

808
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: feel like way more than likely scenario with this franchise, though,

809
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: that they stick with Mettenberger rather than roll the dice

810
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: with take a defensive tackle a number two? What more likely?

811
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: All right? I couldn't think about come draft time, the

812
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: Bears find a taker for Jake Cutler that nets them

813
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: a third round pick or higher, or the Niners first

814
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: round draft pick hugs Roger Goodell at the podium and

815
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: then immediately announces his retirement. I'm gonna go. I think

816
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna go with the Niners scenario that seems

817
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: more likely to me. I can't imagine anybody trading a

818
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: third round pick or higher for Jake Cutler. That I

819
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: was curious, Like, I was trying to think of what

820
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: would be a believable draft pick. I guess third is

821
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: it's that contract, poor Niners. Yeah, I'll have to go

822
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: at the Niners retirement. Jim Thompson would just go on

823
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: like a three thousand mile walk if that happened, Like, dude,

824
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: see some serious for the second? What are you getting at?

825
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: It seems like another guy that coaster for walks. Seems

826
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: like you said a gumpy in past. All right, anybody

827
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: else want to jump in with one? All right, I

828
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: got one more likely, Marcus Mariotta goes number one overall

829
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: or Jamis Winston goes to the Jets. Mm hm. My

830
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: first instinct is to say that all this Mariota number

831
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: one nonsense is just because the draft has to get

832
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: here already, and I'm chalking it up to that just

833
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: over analyzation at this point. So I think Winston goes

834
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: one to the Bucks, so obviously that's uh, I'm going

835
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: with that. I'm with you that we heard the same nonsense.

836
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: What's the other option? Then, Winston to the Jets or

837
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: Mariotta number one. You gotta pick one of those two options,

838
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: even if neither one of them is particularly likely, which

839
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: I think we'd all agree that. Is there a third, No,

840
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: it's less than fifty fifty, but one of these maybe,

841
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: Mark and then I'll I will go with the with

842
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: the Jets, and they've been aggressive, they've been extremely aggressive,

843
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: and I don't think they think they have a quarterback

844
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: if they know anything about football, so they're going to

845
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: trade up. They're gonna do what they can to get

846
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston and reboot that friendships that far to go

847
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: it's number one, but it's not part of it is

848
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Speaker 1: that Winston. Maybe maybe Winston doesn't go one and maybe

849
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: you can trade up to two or three or who knows.

850
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: It was funny being on Tybee. I'm so far removed

851
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: from college football and the draft nick process that I

852
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: have no idea, But it was funny to hearing people

853
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: who watch college football and are big fans saying that

854
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston is a no brainer, like will be a

855
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: stud quarterback, and I hearing analysts like I don't hear

856
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: that all the time, but there was that was the

857
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: conventional wisdom back in the South. I don't I don't know.

858
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: I guess maybe the Jets would trade up for him

859
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: if he's that good. Yeah, And I guess I don't

860
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: see Mariota going number one, so yeah, I guess the

861
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: Jets trading up into that spot to go get him.

862
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: But I don't see that playing out either. Who's who

863
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: else got one? Well, I I heard the name I

864
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: did a would you rather that's cheating? Mark? I listen,

865
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: it was. It was a miscommunication, by the way, kind

866
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: of cheating like in our game on Friday when you

867
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: did our two truths and a lie and put truths

868
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 1: within your lie, which I thought was a little shady business.

869
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it when I was listening. Alright,

870
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: well I did that. We can take the appeal. The

871
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: appeal board is going to take a look at this.

872
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: We might think I played the game. Well, that's from

873
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: another angle. If the whole game was just two troots

874
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: and a lie, what a one two for two? Is

875
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: everything else? Though? Keep breaking back? They got wiped out,

876
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: all right? So what is the what's this call? Would

877
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: you rather? Would you rather? All right? He? Would you

878
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: rather leave your current life behind to join a flying

879
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: saucer called stationed on the forest outskirts of Munich, Germany? A?

880
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: It's a it's think like an excavation of mark subconscious,

881
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: by the way, And I would you rather I finish this?

882
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: Or should we just end the podcast? All right? Hey?

883
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: Would you rather leave your current life behind to join

884
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: a flying saucer cult station on the outskirts of Munich, Germany?

885
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: In this scenario, you would never be allowed to watch

886
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: football again. Still, your family can come with you, and

887
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: all your financial needs will be gone forever. To help

888
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: the Flying Saucer cult, though, you must spend at least

889
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: seven hours a day, every day watching the skies for

890
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: alien craft and recording your observations in a spiral bound

891
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: community journal. Or would you rather leave your NFL job

892
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: and move to Papillion, Nebraska, where you will work at

893
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: right Aid for the rest of your life. You can

894
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: bring your family, but you live in a spare apartment

895
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: house at the edge of the city. Also part of

896
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: the deal, you can never eat a dairy product for

897
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: the rest of your life, and your apartment is filled

898
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: with cats. Is that even close? I'm going. I'm going

899
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: to Munich. I'm going there. That didn't sound like a

900
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 1: bad deal. No financial worries. You have to join a cult. Well,

901
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: you didn't say what went into the cult. But ultimately

902
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm thinking seven hours a day, that's not a long workday,

903
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: and my family is with me, and there's no financial worries.

904
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: I get to eat whatever I want. I'm going. I'm

905
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: not giving up power over my mind. I refused to

906
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: join a cult. I wouldn't give it. That could stay strong.

907
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: I'm allergic to cats. That's a good point. My wife's

908
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: allergic to cats. Um, So I guess I'll go with

909
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: the other one with the cult. What if we could

910
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: join the cult, and then I could overthrow the leader.

911
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: But then wouldn't we then be You would be our

912
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: leader then, which is fine, but I really don't want

913
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: to have anybody as like a quote unquote leader. Then

914
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: how are you gonna be a cult without a leader?

915
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: I gotta break out of this cult. Basically, West, do

916
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: you have one before we go? No? I can't match that.

917
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: We gotta go out on that, all right? Do we

918
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: want anybody else have one? All right? That's it. That's

919
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: it for uh Tuesday's edition of the Around the NFL podcast.

920
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: We will be back on Thursday with um the great

921
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 1: show gold Standard Thursdays. Gold said, well, gold Center Beyond

922
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: for another show on Thursday. Wow, that would that will be?

923
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: I believe four shows or O T D T D.

924
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: Actually getting nervous at this point, by the way, he said,

925
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: he said it downstairs in the newsroom on Monday, that

926
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 1: he's starting to feel pressure as gold Standard really starts

927
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 1: to dig his talents into the show. But of course

928
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: he's leaving us Gold Standards. That's really it's artificially. He's

929
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: so worried. He concocted an entire traffic situation across western

930
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: Los Angeles to slow gold Standard down. Imagine TD Moore

931
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: just coasting. That reminds me of somebody tweeted like, why

932
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 1: do you hate t D? It's like probably he probably

933
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: that's what people think though we all love t D

934
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: and including Chris Westling on Thursday, that was touching. Now, then,

935
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: now the country knows that I love t D. You do.

936
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Speaker 1: We'll be back on Thursday with another great show. The

937
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: four of Us uh Stan Hansas signing off for Quiet Storm,

938
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Boss, and the gold Standard behind the glass.

939
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: Until then, welcome back to that same old place that

940
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: you laughed about. Well, the names have all change since

941
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: you hung around, but those dreams have remained, and they

942
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: turned around dog in rejo where we need to teasing

943
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 1: love because we got him on the spot. Welcome back,

944
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 1: welcome back, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back,

945
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Speaker 1: welcome