1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: This is an agency that is near and dear to 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: my heart as a former assistant the United States Attorney 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: it's critical that we have a great leader at the 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: top of the Department of Justice. Obviously, we thank Pam 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: for our service and she's served the administration for this 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: first fifteen months. But the next person who's heading the 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Department of Justice has got to be aggressive. 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It's a forty 42 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: seven Morning Update, and it starts right now. 43 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 2: Story number one. 44 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: There was major news coming out of the White House 45 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: today and that was the reporting that Pambondi has been 46 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: fired from any official position in the Trump administration. I 47 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: want to walk you through exactly what happened here and 48 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 3: why it's happening, so you understand. Over the last twenty 49 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: four hours, there have been rumors circulating all over Washington 50 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: that Pambondi was either fired, forced out, or stepping down 51 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: amid internal conflict. However, none of those claims well became 52 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: the real story until the White House made it very 53 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: clear that she was out of a job. Here's how 54 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 3: the news broke on Fox News Channel. 55 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 4: Kaylee, I just got off the phone with President Trump. 56 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 4: We have a big scoope. Pam Bondi will soon leave 57 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 4: her job as the Attorney General. She is going to 58 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 4: get a different job within the administration. It doesn't sound 59 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: like there is any bad blood between her and President Trump, 60 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 4: but it does seem like they want her to go 61 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: and do something else, and in an interim role. She 62 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 4: will be replaced by Todd Blanche who is currently her 63 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: deputy at the Justice Department. So it doesn't sound like 64 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: Blanche is being elevated long term to the attorney General. 65 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: There might be somebody else that the President wants to 66 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 4: go in there. But President Trump soon will announce to 67 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 4: the entire world that it is the end of Pam 68 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 4: Bondi's time as the Attorney General. He still thinks that 69 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: she is a great person and that she did a 70 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: good job, and he still wants her in the because 71 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: she will still be an important part of the administration, 72 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 4: he tells me, but no longer as the top law 73 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: enforcement officer of the United States. That at least for 74 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 4: a little while, is going to be Todd Blanche Or do. 75 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: You see that right here? 76 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 5: First, that's rather a big news. And I'm sure you 77 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 5: don't have answer to this, but there have been some 78 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 5: rumored names to replace her. Did you happen to catch 79 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 5: that so far? 80 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: Tom Blanche. 81 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: Now, even as that news broke, there were still questions 82 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: being asked. Hold on a second, was Pam Bonni fired? 83 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: Was she not fired? And is she actually going to 84 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: stay within the administration. Well, here's a new headline from 85 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 3: the New York Post right now. Pam Bonnie speaks out 86 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 3: for the first time after Trump fired her as the 87 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 3: Attorney General Now the former US Attorney General, Pam Bondi 88 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 3: is their headline. Spoke out after being fired for her 89 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: perch as the head of the Justice Department and teased 90 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: her new private sector role where she will continue fighting 91 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: for President Trump. She put with this out on next 92 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: saying quote, leading President Trump's historic and highly successful efforts 93 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 3: to make America safer and more secure has been the 94 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 3: honor of lifetime and easily the most consequential first year 95 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: of the Department of Justice in American history. I remain 96 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: internally grateful for the trust that President Trump placed in 97 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: me to make America safe again. 98 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 6: Now. 99 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: Trump's decision to axe Bondi came weeks after making the 100 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: first cabinet level firing of his administration. That is where 101 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 3: he terminated the former Secretary of Homeland Security, Christy Nome, 102 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: who is now serving a Special Envoy to the Shield 103 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: of the Americas. Bondi is getting a new private sector role, 104 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: is what she said, where she will be allied with 105 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: the administration, but details of that position are not fully 106 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: clear at this moment. In the meantime, Trump is tapped 107 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: a Deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanch to serve as interim 108 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: ag while he decides on a permanent replacement. The name 109 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 3: that I'm hearing the most right now is the EPA 110 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 3: administrator Lee Zelden. Apparently he is seriously considering looking at 111 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 3: him for the job. Bonnie also added on x this, 112 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: I will be working tirelessly to transition the office of 113 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: Attorney General to the amazing Todd Blanche before moving to 114 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: an important private sector role I'm thrilled about and where 115 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: I will continue to fight for President Trump and this 116 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: administration now. President Trump told Pam Bondi in person on 117 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: Wednesday that she was on the outs. The source had 118 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 3: told The Post that conversation took place after the two 119 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: attended the Supreme Court's oral arguments in the birthright citizenship 120 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: case earlier in the day. Bondi, who served as the 121 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: Florida Attorney General from twenty eleven through twenty nineteen. It 122 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: was a key ally of Trump in the twenty twenty 123 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: election aftermath, has been the President's second choice to howme 124 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: the DOJ after Representative Matt Gates's true She quickly faced 125 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: controversy after claiming on Fox News last February that a 126 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: list of late sex predator Jeffrey Epstein's clients was sitting 127 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: on my desk right now to review later. MAGA influencers 128 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: are welcome to the White House and given those binders 129 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: that were titled the Epstein Files Phase one. White House 130 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: Chief of Staff Susie Wilds later told Vanny Fair in 131 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: an interview last year that Bonnie completely whiffed the Epstein situation, 132 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: chiding that there is no client list and it's sure 133 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: as hell wasn't on her desk. Again, that coming from 134 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: the White House Chief of Staff, and that is where 135 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: the turmoil really began. Key allies of the President, such 136 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: as Laura Lumer publicly and privately pushed Trump to get 137 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: Bonni the boot after firing. Several Republicans in Congress, such 138 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: as Representative Nancy Mace cheered Trump, who famously had a 139 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 3: falling out with the ags of his first term Jeff 140 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: Sessions and Bill Barr, appeared frustrated with the DJ's lackluster 141 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: attempts to prosecute some of his political foes. Is what 142 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: many in the media are also trying to spend this 143 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: ass Now, let me be clear, a lot of this 144 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: really did come down to the Epstein Files. Trey Goudie, 145 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: talking on Fox News Channel had this to say about it. 146 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 5: Todd will do a great job, and I know the 147 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 5: President thinks highly of him. 148 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 6: She obviously had some dusk stops up on Capitol Hill 149 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 6: numerous times whenever she went up there to testify. Here 150 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 6: she is versus GOP lawmakers. I moved that the Committee 151 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 6: issue a subpoena to the Honorable Pamela Joe Bondi to 152 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 6: apear before the Committee for a deposition regarding the department's 153 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 6: handling of the investigation to Jeffrey Epstein. 154 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: Within forty minutes, Wexter's name was added back. 155 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 6: Within forty minutes of me catching you red handed, nobody 156 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 6: on our side is defending pam Bondy. Okay, sue that 157 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 6: what built up do you think that handling early on 158 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 6: of Epstein? I know you say she's not tied to it, 159 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 6: but how it was handled early on? 160 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it wasn't just her bred I mean, how 161 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 5: many different podcasters and other folks promised us all this 162 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 5: information on Jeffrey Epstein, and those of us that actually 163 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 5: were prosecutors were sitting there thinking, you've had three opportunities. 164 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 5: You had Florida, you had Maxwell before she was convicted, 165 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 5: and you had Epstein before he killed himself. So where 166 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 5: are the co conspirators? The problem was whenever you And 167 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 5: it wasn't just Pam. There are other members of this 168 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 5: administration that wrote checks with their mouths that the rest 169 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 5: of their body couldn't catch. Now you played a clip 170 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 5: from somebody who's running for governor in South Carolina. I mean, 171 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 5: why would you subpoena a Republican attorney general when all 172 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 5: you have to do is what I did this morning, 173 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 5: call her on the phone. So she was a victim, 174 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 5: a little bit of other people's ambition light now a victim, 175 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 5: a little bit of getting out over her skis. But 176 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 5: let's be allus. When did we start releasing files? 177 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 4: Brett? 178 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 5: I mean, I haven't seen the Matt Gates file, have you. 179 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 5: I haven't seen the job in a Ramsey file. When 180 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 5: did we start releasing files? 181 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: One thing is sure, it's the president said it was 182 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 3: time for someone new. Pam BONDI will go to the 183 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: private sector, she said, and support the president. What will 184 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: be very interesting to see is who gets the job now, 185 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: and we expect that to come very shortly. And when 186 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: that name is named, we'll give it to you. 187 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: Thank you. 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