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Speaker 2: That for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for a day? Edith Steak is that woo woom? And

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Speaker 1: then and Tye, welcome back to the solid verbal boys

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Speaker 3: My name is ty Hildenbrand, joining me as always back

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Speaker 3: in the saddle, my man, Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are

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Speaker 1: Welcome back? Thank you, and I'm I'm pretty good all

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Speaker 1: things considered. I guess we can touch on whatever later

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Speaker 1: at another day, but I am I gotta tell you. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: out things in my Randy Savage voice. Oh brother, And

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Speaker 1: Arry Sanders, absolutely, you know, a Sprosian type of toddler.

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Speaker 1: his tracks, and we look at this flop that has

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Speaker 1: an omen in college football? Might an errant shoe right

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Speaker 1: now before game day has begun be an omen for

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Speaker 1: as a whole. And we said to ourselves, no, no,

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Speaker 1: lo and behold hours later, Tie, it is Aaron shoe Saturday. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean it wasn't quite a Dave Chappelle level payoff

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Speaker 3: at the end of your diatribe, but it was closed, Dean.

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Speaker 1: It was very close on my way. Man, what imagery?

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Speaker 3: Yesterday in week fifteen, as the fog descended upon a

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Speaker 1: Did I not tell you? Soggy, slippery, swollen Saturday snow

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Speaker 1: the fog across the country, Army Navy fog and Florida

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Speaker 1: the masses. And you get a lot about it trade

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Speaker 3: I was day and the car navigating this fog, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just I have no idea what's happening.

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Speaker 3: And for brief moments of that game, and maybe I'm

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Speaker 3: which it's been impossible to see too far in front

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Speaker 1: Very very interesting imagery. TI, I am higher you for

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Speaker 1: In stray games.

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Speaker 3: Stray games, what amounts to Week sixteen. But for the

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Speaker 3: Let's recap week fifteen. Let's hear from you, the verballer

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Speaker 1: Here are your week fifteen reverbs. Have listen well, I

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Speaker 1: don't know why you would ever need drugs, and you

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Speaker 4: The sheer heis and loath of what Clay Houghton's host

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Speaker 1: Bye on, baby, you're choking.

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Speaker 4: Hey guys, this is Josh Armstrong.

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Speaker 2: I'm Charles Vill Virginia.

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Speaker 2: How you Dan and Ty?

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Speaker 4: This is Joey from Dan's neck of the wood just

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Speaker 4: outside of Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Dan Tie.

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Speaker 1: This is Curtis and Lincoln.

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Speaker 4: To quote Steve Dangle from CBC, the mental anguish that

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Speaker 2: Through deeply bely stock.

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Speaker 4: But I'm hopeful that we will be better next year.

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Speaker 2: Go be gred.

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Speaker 5: Hi, this is rock Owen, virgin I am terrified that

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Speaker 5: after this first half where they finally played well for

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Speaker 2: Hi, this is Quinn, a Northwestern fan from Chicago. Been

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Speaker 2: seeing a lot on Twitter about how Iowa is actually.

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Speaker 6: The best team in the Big Ten West, and I

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Speaker 2: If that was the case, they probably wouldn't have lost

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Speaker 1: But hey, I'm not great accounting. Go pass. You know

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Speaker 4: You go to Pat Fitzgerald's steakhouse.

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Speaker 1: He a reporter hole Go Wildcat sati.

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Speaker 4: As a lifelong Michigan fan, I am enjoying this Saturday.

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Speaker 4: Why because we didn't lose to Ohio State, and we

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Speaker 1: Sure look like perhaps tonight. Who always good to see

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Speaker 6: Army Red Rover, Red Rover, the San Jose State right over.

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Speaker 2: only fitting that the Kingpin of College Football podcast uses

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Speaker 2: They absolutely flipped the script. The team that ran for

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Speaker 2: Played great, and it's one of the most fun stories

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Speaker 2: right now. These guys are well worth your time. Spartano.

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Speaker 1: Junior and at Louisiana State University.

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Speaker 1: LSU won by a cleat.

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Speaker 2: Shoes, oh my god, shoots in a game in which

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Speaker 5: Be the Florida defender throwing the shoe.

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Speaker 6: Just to watch my beloved Gators just destroy me and

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Speaker 3: very much to everyone who dialed in. As one caller mentioned,

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Speaker 3: we open it up each and every college football Saturday

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Speaker 3: Instead, miss Wilson chose to throw Cole Taylor's cleat about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they made plays on the ground, it just was

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Speaker 1: It was just the finishing and LSU they start Max

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Speaker 1: It was just one of those games. And LSU gets

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Speaker 1: But those three turnovers, the picks and that fumble. Ultimately

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Speaker 1: Taking Florida out of the playoff. I imagine, Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: Did you happen to catch Dan Mullen's comments after this

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Speaker 3: I guess the best thing to do would have been

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Speaker 3: for not playing this year in college football. Thank you, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I get but you know what I get it. I

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Speaker 1: I know Dabo said something that was interpreted in a

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Speaker 3: He's in charge of a major, multimillion dollar or Division

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, North Carolina sixty two, Miami twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I looked it up.

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Speaker 3: This is the aforementioned Barrett Jones game where they couldn't see.

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Speaker 3: seven hundred and seventy eight total yards for UNC five

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Speaker 3: I love that play. It's obviously got significance in this

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say I wasn't crazy confident just because

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Speaker 3: Oh, keep doing olda fourteen mentality, right, yes, And if

438
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Speaker 3: you find a play that works, keep doing it.

439
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Speaker 1: And to North Carolina's credit, because the running backs and

440
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Speaker 1: the offense are going to get like what had almost

441
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Speaker 1: eight hundred yards of total offense. Defensively, North Carolina fully

442
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: dominated Miami up front as well. They forced mistakes, they

443
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: forced you know, three and outs. It was the North

444
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: Carolina defense that really came through as well. It was

445
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 1: as complete a North Carolina performance that we've seen in

446
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Speaker 1: modern history on the road against a now former top

447
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: ten team. Very cool to see. Yeah, to say the least. Dan,

448
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: by the way, did you see I love this stat

449
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: By the way, the available yardage stat that North Carolina

450
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: on I think it was ten of eleven drives. They

451
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: it was like seven hundred and ninety eight yards of

452
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Speaker 1: an available eight hundred and thirty something along those lines.

453
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Speaker 1: So wow, cool.

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Speaker 3: All right, USC forty three, you see a thirty eight

455
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 3: UCLA hits the go ahead field goal with under a

456
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Speaker 3: minute left. But you know the deal in these rivalries, Dan,

457
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 3: you throw out the records, you throw out the logic.

458
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 3: USC gets a nice kick return, and then it's Keaton

459
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Speaker 3: Slova this time you remember.

460
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Speaker 1: Keaton Slovis, Dan too, I do fondly.

461
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 3: Keaton Slovis immediately connects on a long pass to Tyler

462
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 3: Vaughan's follows it up with a perfectly thrown eight yard

463
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 3: touchdown pass to a'man ross Saint Brown with just sixteen

464
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 3: ticks left on the clock that gives USC the w.

465
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Speaker 3: Their win here, combined with Colorado's loss, means that yay,

466
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Speaker 3: USC is your Pack twelve South champion at a esteemed

467
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Speaker 3: mark of five, and oh, Dan, congratulations USC.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Obviously they were not able to feel the team

469
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Speaker 1: for the Colorado matchup, but nonetheless here we are. Colorado

470
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Speaker 1: goes down to UTAs. Ultimately, it doesn't fully matter in

471
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Speaker 1: terms of PAC twelve champ In shape, PAC twelve Championship

472
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: controversy or confusion really good for USC. I'm getting a

473
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: little bit of Texas longhorns to USC, which is fine

474
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: because you go five and oh you get to five

475
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: and oh, however you can get there. And an impressive

476
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 1: day for USC, but what they gave up on the

477
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: ground certainly has to be concerning given the talent level

478
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Speaker 1: at USC that UCLA, especially on the ground, was able

479
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: to move the ball well. Dtr Dorian Thompson Robinson made

480
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: a couple of pretty killer mistakes, but was otherwise pretty

481
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: great through the air. Greg Dulcich I think is his name,

482
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: the tight end he's gotten his No matter who UCLA

483
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,719
Speaker 1: has played, the story is both USC being able to

484
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: come through at the end get plays on defense as well.

485
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: A couple of pretty crazy interceptions actually for USC. Really impressive,

486
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: but a lot of underneath stuff once again, which is

487
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Speaker 1: why I make the Texas comparison the Sam Ellinger connection

488
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: to Ketan Slovas, except USC has far, far, far better

489
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: receivers than Tech. But a lot of a lot of hitches,

490
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: a lot of little screens, a lot of little flares.

491
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: And I know that's the offense, but when Keiden Slovas

492
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: actually goes downfield, and UCLA did do a good job,

493
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: you know, sort of keeping things underneath. But when Keiten

494
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: Slovas took shots, be it to Tyler Vaughan's i'man Ross

495
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: Saint Brown Drake London was. I don't know if you

496
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: saw that first touchdown where he broke a bunch of tackles,

497
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: almost fumbled it, kept it. I just I don't know

498
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: if it's a timidity thing. I don't know if it's

499
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: a receiver somehow not getting open thing, even though they

500
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: seem to be open for a majority of the game.

501
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's defense is just giving them

502
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: the underneath stuff. But it's a tough offense to watch

503
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: a lot of the time because you see what happens

504
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: at the end of games with Keaton Slovas improvising or

505
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: taking shots downfield and it working. I just I want

506
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: more of that from usc because it's so fun watching

507
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: it actually unfold. And defensively, they have a ways to go.

508
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: They couldn't tackle Ucla for shoot, but I guess Ucla

509
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: on offense was took a really nice step forward as well,

510
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: so a fun, entertaining game. UCLA had an opportunity at

511
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: the end with a Hail Mary, it falls to the

512
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: turf for a USC win, so five and o USC

513
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: moves on to play. I believe Washington if Washington can

514
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: field the team after being unable to against hated rival

515
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: Oregon and so that game was canceled. If Washington is

516
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: unable to field the team, I'm sure things are happening

517
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: in conjunction with think it's King County up there in Seattle.

518
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: Then Oregon steps in, and if USC is unable to

519
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: feel the team, Colorado steps in, even though they do

520
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: lose to Utah. So we have weird backup situations at play.

521
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't know when the deadline is, but there are

522
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Speaker 1: alternate plans for a back twelve. Chimp let me which

523
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: is what the season is tied?

524
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 3: Which is so ridiculous. Let me ask you a question,

525
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: and this is tongue in cheek. I'm not trying to

526
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Speaker 3: be controversial with no.

527
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: It's okay, we're here for it. USC is undefeated. Yeah.

528
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Speaker 1: How does the playoff committee treat undefeated USC? I think

529
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: they give them a nice patm them back and say

530
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: heck of a season. Trojansjoys enjoy the festival or whatever

531
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: the hell they're going to wherever they're gonna end up.

532
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: I yeah, USC, and I'm consistent with this, I believe

533
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: before the season started, I said, how does a PAC

534
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: twelve team with a maximum what six regular season games

535
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: of the PAC twelve championship game being seven, how does

536
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Speaker 1: a PAC twelve team make the playoff? Playing two, three, four, five,

537
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: six fewer games than teams and other conferences? Whoever it

538
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: is kind of has to beat everybody. Thirty five to

539
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: eighty four to thirteen, can't squeak again? USC squeaks by

540
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: what we believe to be at least Okasu team. They

541
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: absolutely squeak by once again to a team who just

542
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: fired their coach after losing seventy to seven and going

543
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: winless and losing their previous eleven games on top of

544
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: the Territorial Cup in Arizona. A decent enough win against

545
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: an ok Utah team at best, missing the Colorado game

546
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: and getting by a well I think is a pretty

547
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: decent UCLA team. But nothing dominant about UCLA team who

548
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: finishes the season of five hundred so USC on the

549
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: field in record, they're undefeated in actual watching games. They

550
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: didn't separate themselves from the PAC twelve. How do you

551
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: expect them to hang with Notre Dame, Clemson, Ohio State, Alabama.

552
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: There's no evidence that they can.

553
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: Doesn't this fly in the face of Dan Mullen's argument

554
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: that fewer games puts you at an advantage.

555
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: It, well, it depends what that number is, and it depends.

556
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: It's like an extreme example here, right, Well, I mean,

557
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: Ohio State's going to get the benefit of that doubt

558
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: because they've been there. Their coach has taken this team

559
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: to a playoff, their quarterbacks a Heisman contender where you know,

560
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: Justin Fields happens to be a lot better than Keidan Slovas.

561
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: And so I understand the frustrat from the SEC. But

562
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: let's not pretend that the playoff has laid out anything

563
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: specific that in a way that teams and conferences can

564
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: look as a clear guideline beyond win as many games

565
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: as you possibly can by as many points as you

566
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: possibly can. And Ohio State has done that some of

567
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: some of I mean, what the Maryland cancelation I believe

568
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: was on Maryland. The Michigan cancelation I believe is on Michigan.

569
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: They could have looked better against Indiana could have looked

570
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: better against Penn State, but I think Ohio State has

571
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: a clear stronger case based on I don't know, recent

572
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: history and what we believe to be there ceiling than

573
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Speaker 1: USC struggling against the teams they struggled with.

574
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Speaker 3: Dan Mullen, man, I love the guy. This is my

575
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 3: new favorite story to close out this season. And we

576
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Speaker 3: still get another game, so well, sure we'll keep talking

577
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: about Dan Mullen. Okay, let's shift over to the big tanks.

578
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Speaker 3: You mentioned Ohio State. They didn't play because the Ohio

579
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: State Michigan game was canceled. There were a couple games

580
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: that were being played though. Northwestern, the other half of

581
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: your presumed Big Ten championship game next weekend, knocked off

582
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: Illinois by a twenty eight to ten score. Look, they

583
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: just ran the crap out of the ball four hundred

584
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: and eleven yards, three touchdowns. The only notable thing to

585
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: fall out of this game was your close friend elion

586
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: I Scott wanting to start an urban Meyer to Illinois rumor,

587
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: if at all possible. So I don't know if that's

588
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: a secret.

589
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: Verbal they're rumbling about it at Papadell's there. Ty Champagne,

590
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: Illinois or champagn or ban or band of Champagne whatever.

591
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: The Cats are about a twenty one point dog.

592
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: Next week. That game's in Indy against Ohio State. Elsewhere,

593
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: we had Iowa twenty eight to seven over Wisconsin. They

594
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: led six to nil at half dan and then scored

595
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: thirty three excuse me, touchdowns in the final two quarters

596
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: to win this game. M hm'is console look real bad

597
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: on offense. It's one thing if it's Graham Mertz looking

598
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: more pedestrian against better teams, better defenses, and we could

599
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: joke all we want about twenty for twenty one with

600
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 3: five touchdowns against Illinois, but against better teams, his completion

601
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: percentages come down about fifty five percent. That's understandable because

602
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: he's young.

603
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: I get it.

604
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 3: Not ideal, but I get it. It's a whole other thing, though,

605
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: when Wisconsin is averaging one point seven yards per rush.

606
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: When that's going on at Wisconsin, I start to wonder, Okay,

607
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 3: what's the what's the deal here? I understand it's a

608
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 3: weird year for everybody. They didn't have their normal practice

609
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 3: regiment before the year.

610
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: There was turnover.

611
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: They lose Jonathan Taylor tail, but like there's a whole

612
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 3: lot of stuff going down.

613
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: Also, Graham Mertz had COVID, Paul Christy co COVID. Look, Lineman,

614
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to fully evaluate anybody accurate.

615
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: Granted in twenty twenty, I'm with you, But I'm just saying,

616
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Speaker 3: within the context of this game is season. They lose

617
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Speaker 3: twenty eight to seven, They're lucky they got to seven,

618
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: and they were averaging one point seven yards per rush.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say. Yeah, And you know what

620
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Speaker 1: if Graham Hertz, and this is pure speculation, if he

621
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: has been affected physically by having the virus. If that's

622
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: the case, he probably doesn't look great in practice either,

623
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: And maybe he is the best of down options. But

624
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: tie between the Wisconsin offense the Iowa offense. Early, I

625
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: still reserve the right.

626
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 7: Punt, fumble, field goal, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, bounds,

627
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 7: field goal, end of half, missfield goal, touchdown, punt, touchdown, punt, punt, touchdown, downsdowns, interception, touchdown,

628
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Speaker 7: And why not Wisconsin pun one for good measure?

629
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Speaker 5: Right?

630
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: Wow?

631
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I could say punt that many

632
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: times that quickly without tripping over my own tongue.

633
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to say right now, so after Iowa and

634
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: by the way, I think it's what Keith Duncan, who's

635
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: done a really good job as a kicker for Iowa

636
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: without him. Wow, God, this first half. Uh, it's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,

637
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: twelve straight punt possessions. Nicely, Okay, the Badgers in the Hacks.

638
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: Let's go to Penn State thirty nine, Michigan State twenty four.

639
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: Can we can we give Iowa some credit though, tyheas

640
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: made plays please, they're Tyler Goodson like they actually ended

641
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,479
Speaker 1: up in the second half, especially making plays defense looked

642
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: really good. Three touchdowns with Sohnson. Yeah, way, yeah, Let's

643
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: let's tip our caps to the Hawks for And that's

644
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: one of those, you know, redemption teams losing early the

645
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: way that they did to what Purdue and Northwestern and

646
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: I think it was six straight, six straight wins. Yeah Iowa. Yeah,

647
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: finishing the team finishing the regular season is what I

648
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: imagine to be a top fifteen team. Great, awesome. By

649
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: the way, it's eleven am Eastern on Sunday when we're

650
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Speaker 1: recording this and the Big Ten is still not released

651
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: official word what they're doing next week with regard to

652
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: any remaining games that they might want to play in

653
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: addition to championships. So stray matchups.

654
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well we'll see what happens there. Let's shift

655
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 3: over to Penn State Michigan State. You know what they say, Dan,

656
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: Good teams win, but great teams go on a twenty

657
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: nine to three run in the second half to cover

658
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: a fourteen and a half point spread against a two

659
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 3: and five Michigan State. And that is where we stand

660
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: with the Penn State Nitney Lyons, here is the deal.

661
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: I am going to straight up copy from our friend

662
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: Nick Pollock over at Roar Lions, Roar Great Penn State website.

663
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: Been on their podcast a number of times because he

664
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 3: summed it up in three bullets better than I could

665
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: if I did a fifteen minute diet tribe A. The

666
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 3: second half much better than the first for Penn State.

667
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: They were down twenty one to ten at half. They

668
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: were a mess through two quarters, they pulled it together.

669
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: They obviously went on that run. B might be time

670
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: to take a look get Brent Prye, their defensive coordinator,

671
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: because the defense all year has looked lost and that

672
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 3: is not what we're accustomed to seeing from Penn State.

673
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: Allow to turnover without Michael Parsons right, well, it's.

674
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: Not what we're accustomed to sing without. With Brent Prye

675
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: though as well, all kinds is not a long time coming.

676
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: He's been a good defensive coordinator.

677
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: He has all kinds of qualifiers here. But what they've

678
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: done on defense this year has been striking. I'm not

679
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 3: saying you get rid of them, he said, he said

680
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 3: it's time to fire him. I don't know if I'd

681
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 3: go that far, but it's definitely been concerning that they've

682
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: looked this disjointed on defense. And then see what was

683
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 3: the question mark coming into the year Sean Clifford, So

684
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: what shrock? If I have the sound versus the sound

685
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 3: here it is? I like the yes at the end there?

686
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: Yes yes. See. Questionally for me was Sean Clifford and

687
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: will he improve? Won't he improve? He has not improved.

688
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: He didn't improve from last year to this year. He

689
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: hasn't improved from start to finish either. So we've gotten

690
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: no clarity on the answer to that question going into

691
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, and if anything, that question Mark is

692
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: going to be bigger and boulder going into next season.

693
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 3: But they win here. It was a good way to

694
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 3: close out. They did get better as a team as

695
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: the year wore on. But three big things that I

696
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: take away in particular that Nick took away that I

697
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: thought were really important.

698
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had one totally awful quarter Penn State did,

699
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: but otherwise they I mean, it was what a combination

700
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: of Sean Clifford and Will Levis both on the ground

701
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: and through the air. Mostly Will Levis succeeded on the

702
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: ground and Parker Washington made a couple plays on just

703
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite passing plays that sort of

704
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: pake fake pump screen and the other receiver goes and

705
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: we opened sometimes. Yeah, Parker Washington scored on that play.

706
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: He crossed into the other side of the field. Nice

707
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: run after the fact. So there are promising elements, especially

708
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: to this Penn State offense, But I don't know that

709
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: it necessarily involves the quarterback position, which seems like a

710
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: big deal defensively, I without knowing what their future depth

711
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: chart looks like, without knowing the guys that they really

712
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: like that are red shirting or you know, the youth

713
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: that they're recruiting. Whatever. I know, the recruiting has not

714
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: been great comparatively at Penn State, with the losses, with

715
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: the opt outs, especially with Micah Parsons, especially with being

716
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: a strange season. They're one of those defenses that I

717
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: give the benefit of the doubt to. Okay, so maybe

718
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: there are issues, but they were all just completely exaggerated

719
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: because of twenty twenty and the offense, his own struggles

720
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: keeping the defense on the field as much as it did.

721
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: So that's one of those benefit of the doubt situations

722
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: without knowing the full extent of you know, how the

723
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: roster is and was and will be impacted. So whatever

724
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: grain of salt you can take it with. I still

725
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: I would still say Penn State's defense has a shot

726
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: because Brent Priye has been a good coordinator. UH to

727
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: improve pretty quickly.

728
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 3: Other two games here to close out with in the

729
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: Big Ten, we had Minnesota twenty four to seventeen over

730
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 3: Nebraska and Rutgers in overtime wins twenty seven to twenty

731
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 3: over Maryland. You know, I so our caller on the

732
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: reverbs reference the mental anguish of being an Nebraska fan

733
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 3: right now. MM hmm, and I read Brandon Vogel. Brandon Voguel.

734
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 3: I've known Brandon for fifteen years over at Hale Varsity,

735
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: and he wrote a recap about being an Nebraska fan,

736
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: essentially watching this game, but what the season has been like.

737
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 3: He loves Nebraska with all his heart. I could feel

738
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 3: the words coming off the page. The frustration is palpable.

739
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 3: There have been some good moments. There's been a lot

740
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: of bad moments. But we're a few years into the

741
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 3: Frost era now and the problem is we haven't an

742
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: identity emerge. And I like Scott Frost, but we have

743
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: not seen that identity emerge, and that makes it tough

744
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 3: to watch. Nebraska is at a point right now where

745
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: it kind of doesn't know what it is as a team, right.

746
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: And you would at least hope again.

747
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 3: I know we say it a thousand times a show

748
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: that there are a thousand qualifiers this year, but I

749
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: would just hope. And I don't think it would be

750
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 3: unreasonable to expect as a Nebraska fan. You bring in

751
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 3: this big wig coach, all this excitement to feel like

752
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 3: things were a little bit more orderly a couple of

753
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: years into this thing, that even if you're not winning.

754
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 3: That seems like that will be a reasonable ask, right.

755
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: I don't think Scott Frost can find quarterbacks and developed quarterbacks.

756
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: He found Mackenzie Milton did a good job there. I

757
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a one off. Obviously, Dylan Grabriel

758
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: has done a nice job within the pseudo system. Josh

759
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: Hipel like that UCF has had good quarterbacks these last

760
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: few years. In the shadow and the Frost era, what

761
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: we're watching in Lincoln is at best inconsistent and at

762
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: worst an overly loyal room where Scott Frost, I imagine,

763
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: would have the opportunity to hit the transfer market during

764
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: the off season and say, I don't know Jake Bentley here,

765
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: Cameron Rising there in the last couple of years anyway,

766
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: But like Jack Sears like, there are guys out there,

767
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: Jake Hayner, who had a decent enough year at Fresno State,

768
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: There are guys out there who can be average to

769
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: above average consistently. And I don't know if Nebraska went

770
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: after them, but I imagine, based on where some of

771
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: these guys ended up and ended up doing pretty well,

772
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: that Nebraska didn't really kick too many quarterback transfer and

773
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: grad transfer tires because you watch Adrian Martinez week to

774
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: week and he'll have two and a half quarter stretches.

775
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: We're like, all right, this is the Adrian Martinez we

776
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: remember from a couple of years ago. You watched Luke

777
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: mccaffre and you're like, this guy's not a above average

778
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: Big ten quarterback. I'd like him to be. I'd like

779
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: for Nebraska to have that. But like, they just don't

780
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: have consistent quarterback play being coached by a supposed quarterback

781
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: whisper offensive guru and Scott Frost. That's an issue when

782
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: they have a nice game defensively and the defenses come forward,

783
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: the offense looks listless and they're unable to move the

784
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: ball for long stretches. And so you're right, that's the

785
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: harm of being a Nebraska fan. And it's look, it's

786
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: the harm of being a number of teams fans where

787
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: your coach is too stubborn, your coach is too proud,

788
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: your coach wants to do it his way, and this

789
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: is what happens. It's a strange year. Nebraska's had a

790
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: strange season. Teams love dunking on the thanks for bringing

791
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: football in the Big ten back Nebraska but you watch

792
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: the Huskers in just like week to week, it's kind

793
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: of the same thing. It's just a rerun, and I

794
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: understand how infuriating that can be. It's tough. All right,

795
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: let's go over the SEC real quick.

796
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 3: We had a couple of blowouts here to mention quickly,

797
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: Alabama all over Arkansas fifty two to three. They're up

798
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: thirty eight to three at a half. Not a huge

799
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: stat line for DeVante Smith. But did you see the return?

800
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: Of course had I had a double check.

801
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: And make sure that I wasn't watching that at like

802
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty percent speed because he is so

803
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: damn fast and had such a sweet return there. Bama

804
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: of course gets Florida next week in the SEC title game.

805
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: By the way, Devonte Smith, that was. It was such

806
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: a casual fifty two to three wins because Arkansas just

807
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: kind of kept safeties back and made Alabama win the

808
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: game in just a new way, in a dominant fashion.

809
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: But DeVante Smith with just a little bit of open field,

810
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: just a little bit of very dangerous Yeah, well, it's

811
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: just it's not even the danger as much as it

812
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: is how casually he accepts his path to the end zone.

813
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: Like waking up in the middle of the night to

814
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: pee ty. I imagine at this point you've been in

815
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: your house long enough. You throw the comforter off your

816
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: your eyes are groggy, that your room is dark. You

817
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: can you can walk to the bathroom and lift the

818
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 1: toilet seat and pee without a light, right I can.

819
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: This is a very weird comparison, but I want to

820
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: see you turn on the bathroom light when you have

821
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, no, no no, That's what I'm saying.

822
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: You know you're not bumping into walls, right not. You

823
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: know how many steps more or less it takes to

824
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: go from your bed to the toilet. That's kind of

825
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith with the ball his hands in the open field.

826
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: He just sort of knows how to get there. It's

827
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: just second nature. He's done times like yeah, he's He's

828
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: a middle of the night pier with the ball. Tie you.

829
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: Interesting comparison. Interesting comparison. I have not heard that.

830
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: When you get older, this is what you think about.

831
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: We're all taking that journey together. Okay, that's true. Georgia

832
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: forty nine, MISSOO fourteen. Nice game for JT.

833
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: Daniels, Nice game for George Pickens, feels like a different thing.

834
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, to me, I'm really high on JT. Daniels.

835
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: I have been all along.

836
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: If he can stay healthy, I think the future is bright.

837
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 3: But yeah, nice game here against Bazoo. Reasonably close game

838
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 3: for a while. It was fourteen four thirteen with about

839
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 3: a minute left in the second quarter. From that point

840
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: forwhere Georgia poured it on. They got Vandy next week,

841
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 3: so almost certainly looking like a ten and two finish

842
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: for Georgia, which, given some of their own uncertainty a

843
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: quarterback and elsewhere, I think is a pretty good campaign.

844
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: On the road. Georgia with a quarterback, with a coordinator

845
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: for playing JT. Daniels as soon as he seemed to

846
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: be well enough. From a health perspective, I mean, it's

847
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: where depth and talent really shows up, right. It's along

848
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: the lines. It's, you know, being able to spread the

849
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: ball around. It's being able to push guys around when

850
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: they're tired. Georgia did the damn thing well. I like

851
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: to see it, and the future is right. You're absolutely

852
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: right with JT. Daniels. If he can stay healthy, the

853
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: ceiling has been lifted.

854
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 3: We had Tennessee all over Vandy forty two to seventeen.

855
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 3: The Sarah Fuller story continues. Two extra points. Yeah, good

856
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 3: for her. That's very cool.

857
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, very cool to see. Yeah.

858
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 3: And finally we had Auburn twenty four Mississippi State ten.

859
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 3: Auburn rendered the Mike Leach offense pretty ineffective. State didn't

860
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 3: score a touchdown until like midway through the fourth quarter

861
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 3: something like that. And it's no secret that we've seen

862
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 3: diminishing returns on that air raid from.

863
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: Mississippi State ever since that year. You're one, you're one.

864
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: You're one. With no regular off season. That's my qualifier

865
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: as always for me.

866
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 3: Though, I think the bigger story, bigger stories is equal

867
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 3: parts the Auburn offense.

868
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: And State defense.

869
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: State's defense has improved. We've been talking about it here. Dramatically, Yeah, dramatically.

870
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 3: This was just a sixteen to ten game with eight

871
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: and a half left. The defense absolutely gave the offense

872
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: a chance here convertly, but played well. On the Auburn side.

873
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 3: Dan Bonicks had the touchdown that sealed the deal, gave

874
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 3: Auburn the win, put it out of reach essentially, and

875
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: there is an intangible quality to the way he plays.

876
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 3: He does win moments that's important. My problem is it

877
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 3: feels like that's the whole offense. That's the whole offense.

878
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: It's can bo Knicks make a play? Can somebody make

879
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 3: a play when the game is close down the stretch

880
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 3: to give us enough padding? And that is concerning to me.

881
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 3: That is probably, I know, concerning to Auburn fans as well,

882
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 3: because when you think of Gus Malson, you harken back

883
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 3: to the days of Cam Newton. You harken back to

884
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 3: the days of Nick Marshall, that electric offense, that inventive offense,

885
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 3: Guys flying around, putting up a ton of points. Defense

886
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: doesn't know who to cover, they can't make it work.

887
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: We are so far removed from those days of Gus

888
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 3: Malson that it's almost beyond reason why we'd expect that

889
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: he'd ever get back to that point in time.

890
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think we can render a verdict

891
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: on the combination of Gus Malson and bow Knicks and

892
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: where this offense goes with multiple offensive coordinators. You know,

893
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: there were complete setbacks this year with a new look

894
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: offensive line whatever, but Tank Bixby had a really nice game.

895
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: It's not like nothing was working for this Auburn offense.

896
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: We just have a very clear idea of who bo

897
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: Nicks is and isn't. And he wins games. He's won

898
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: big games. Beat Auburn and excuse me, beat Alabama and

899
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: Oregon last year, two teams who won their well, I

900
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 1: guess fair share of games. Else you won the SEC,

901
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: Oregon won the Pac twelve. But this is just the

902
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: new normal for Auburn football. Now. It's been a strange

903
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: year for everybody. Once again, the same qualifier applies. But

904
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: the heights of this offense these past couple of years,

905
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: it's not especially high, So it isn't that's the new normal,

906
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: I guess. I don't you know how many quarters did

907
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: they score a touchdown this game? One? They score a

908
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: touchdowntil a fourth quarter against Missippi State. It sounds about

909
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 1: right by the way, Harrison Bailey Tennessee, nice game stepping

910
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: in at quarterback. I know they rotated guys he and JT. Schrout,

911
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: but a nice day for Harrison Bailey. Sure it's Vandy,

912
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: but that's what you should do against Vandy.

913
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: Got three other Power five conferences to get through.

914
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

915
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 3: And a couple group and more and more couple group

916
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: of fives as well. Let me go to the ACC

917
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna rattle off these scores very quickly. We

918
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 3: had Pit thirty four to twenty over Georgia Tech in

919
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: the weird Jeff Collins no look quasi handshake with Pat

920
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 3: and Ardoozi after the game.

921
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody fully understands this one. It was a feisty.

922
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 3: Game with someone's sportsman like conduct. But it could just

923
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 3: be that Jeff Collins is pissed that he lost. But whatever,

924
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: thirty four to twenty. Pitt wins Louisville forty five to

925
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: twenty one over Wake, Florida State fifty six to thirty

926
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: five over Duke, and Virginia Tech wins the Commonwealth Cup

927
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 3: thirty three, two fifteen. I don't know if you watched

928
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 3: Eddie justin fluentes pressero.

929
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm guessing you didn't.

930
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 3: I tend to watch these things for whatever reason. Yeah,

931
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 3: he was basically trying to blink out in morse code

932
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: that he doesn't want to play in a bowl game.

933
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: I think he said he just wanted to leave Blacksburg.

934
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: He was out last year when he interviewed for the

935
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: Baylor job.

936
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, his eyes had a sense of desperation. Please don't

937
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 3: make us keep doing this after the game. You really

938
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 3: do get the sense that he had a number of others.

939
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 3: As we're starting to see it with Boston College and

940
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 3: Pitt opting out of their bowl games already, you're getting

941
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 3: the sense that fluentes in a very similar place.

942
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. On the pit front, Vinnie Davis tie Nnie Davis

943
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: Davis two and fifty yards something like that. Big game

944
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: for I'm sure guy Pat whatever, who's on the call

945
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: for Pitt, uh baustic baby, my boy, Pat Bock, your guy,

946
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: I'm sure he had a ball. As for Louisville, Wake

947
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: Forest a fun I mean, obviously a fun game if

948
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: you're a Louisville fan, But it's the the juxtaposition of

949
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: the outgoing and the incoming Jalen Mitchell on the ground

950
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: with Javian Hawkins opting out. Des Fitzpatrick had a really

951
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: nice game, Mallie Cunningham. Does not turn the ball over

952
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, that's nice, that's nice. Had a nice game

953
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: elsewhere you did? Oh, you talked about Commonwealth Cup Virginia Tech.

954
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: I was a Braxton Burmeister game. I believe right it

955
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: was for the Hokies. Yep, story there was probably I

956
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 1: rewatched it this morning pretty quickly. But the the hockey defense,

957
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: justin Hamilton in the job he's done at times, really

958
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: doing a nice job against a Brendan Armstrong Virginia offense

959
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: that has at times looked pretty dangerous. So that to

960
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: me was the story, the Virginia Tech defense. Maybe that's

961
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: the redemption story. It was for the Hokies really playing

962
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: maybe the redemption st and starting a new streak, starting

963
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: a new streak, TI REDEMPTIONUS redemption story, starting a new streak.

964
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: Khalil Herbert had a game one two on the ground

965
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 1: and they also had some big plays in this game,

966
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: which was nice. Outside of Khalil Herbert who had a

967
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: nice seventy six yarder, they had a few big plays

968
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: which is good to see on offense. But yeah, they

969
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: finished five and six. Virginia had five and five.

970
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go over to the PAC twelve. Let's Utah

971
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 3: knocks off Colorado, Colorado's first loss of the year, thirty

972
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 3: eight to twenty one in the snow. In the snow,

973
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: good game for the Utah defense and Ty Jordan. We

974
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 3: had running back Yep Stanford twenty seven to twenty four

975
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 3: over Oregon State. We had Arizona State seventy to seven

976
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 3: over Arizona. So man, cool story in this one before

977
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: we get to the negative story in this one.

978
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: Jackson, he.

979
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 3: Walk on for ASU, becomes the first Chinese born player

980
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: to carry a ball and score a touchdown in college

981
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 3: football history. If you are looking for a feel good story,

982
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 3: go and watch the media he did after the game.

983
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 3: An interview was I have an sideline reporter. Awesome, awesome,

984
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: just excited to be there. Wasn't tearful, wasn't anything. He

985
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 3: was just pumped. He was pumped to be there, to

986
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 3: be in that position, and gave a little monologue in Chinese,

987
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 3: which is cool. It's a really cool story to see.

988
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 3: Kid was just super excited.

989
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: To be there. On the flip side, we had the

990
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: Kevin Someone was it was it Mandarin or Cantonese tie.

991
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, if you want to be more specific here,

992
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: I would say probably Mandarin. Probably Mandarin. Okay, from what

993
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: I could, I mean gather you're secretly all over the globe, so.

994
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: You would know I know a little bit about Mandarin.

995
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: Kevin Someone fired after the game. Yeah, some names being

996
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: tossed around in the immediate aftermath. Steve Sarkushian, who's going

997
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 3: to be in the hunt.

998
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: For every job?

999
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 3: I think we just assume Brent Brennan from San Jose State,

1000
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 3: Graham Harrell offensive coordinator at USC, Jeff Grimes, the oc

1001
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: at BYU Jay Norvell at Nevada, and I saw Dennis

1002
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 3: Dodd also mentioned Brian Harson as a bit of a

1003
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 3: long shot, which I don't think is gonna happen. But

1004
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 3: those just Sixteames.

1005
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: Coach I saw. The coach at Weber State was also

1006
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 1: brought up. I think his last name is Hill. Okay,

1007
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: they've done a nice job. Yeah, I'm interested in that

1008
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: role for Sarkisian, are you I am? I don't think

1009
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: he might just wait out Nick Saban.

1010
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he's gonna take it, but I'm

1011
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 3: interested in the fit there.

1012
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: I know Arizona has improved things in terms of facilities

1013
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: these past few years. That's a tough job, and it's

1014
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: a tough job, especially if you are a calm down

1015
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: coach like Kevin Sumlan was. Now Rich Rodriguez made it

1016
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: work on the field. Obviously, his firing was more complicated

1017
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: than his on field results, and he took that team

1018
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 1: to a really impressive place at times on the field.

1019
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: That's a tough job. It's a basketball school and it's

1020
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: in a non fertile recruiting ground. It's not as sexy

1021
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: a town in Tucson. We both like Tucson, but it's

1022
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: it's tougher to attract people to Tucson, I would say,

1023
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: to play football than it is to attract people to

1024
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: come to Tempe. Within that state. It's just tough. You

1025
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: have to really really dig your heels in. And that

1026
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: generally doesn't come from a guy who would have rather

1027
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: stayed at Texas A and M or who would have

1028
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: rather been at a larger stage, on a larger stage.

1029
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: And so you know, it works for some guys if

1030
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: they have a year or two off to reevaluate things.

1031
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: Like Chip Kelly seems to have UCLA in a good direction.

1032
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: You know, he's another come doown coach would probably rather

1033
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: be succeeding in the NFL Less Miles of Kansas, very

1034
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: similar situation, even though he had time off of his own.

1035
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: I just Kevilyn, someone came into that job and you're

1036
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: just like I remember thinking day one we talked about

1037
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: it you're just like I guess. I mean, they didn't

1038
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: hire ken Nea Modololo before because Khalil Tait seemed to

1039
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 1: be very public about his distaste and displeasure for running

1040
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: any sort of Kennia modelolo offense, and that was that

1041
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: would have to me. Still, I don't think they would

1042
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: have run the option in the way that they do it.

1043
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: They have to it Navy. I don't know. I think

1044
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 1: I just don't trust Arizona to find a find the

1045
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: right guy right now. I think they can get seduced.

1046
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: And that's what happened before. Hmm, yeah, it was. I

1047
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 1: think Sark. Sark probably recognizes that Sark at this point,

1048
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: after being a head coach at two places in the

1049
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: PAC twelve, probably has a good idea of places that

1050
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: are set up to succeed. And I don't know that

1051
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: he sees Arizona and they like Sark can just wait

1052
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: things out, just like Brent Venables at Clemson, just like

1053
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: wait for the part. Like I know he was interested

1054
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: in Colorado. Colorado seems like a place that's set up

1055
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: better to succeed, even with the like the financial struggles

1056
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: they've had as a program these past you know, this

1057
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: past decade. I know things have improved, but Colorado they

1058
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: just they want to win football games. They're all in football.

1059
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: Arizona's just I don't know, they don't have the history there.

1060
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: I mean, all shout out to the Desert Swarm in

1061
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: the nineties, but Teddy Bruski ain't walking through that door.

1062
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 6: Tie.

1063
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: So I just yeah, I think they're gonna have to

1064
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: need it. They need like a mountain west up and

1065
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: comer to really dig in their heels there and build

1066
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: out that culture and build out that infrastructure because a

1067
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: guy kind of swooping in from the outside. Again, Rich

1068
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: Rodriguez made it work, but it's a tough ask there.

1069
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 3: My prediction is whoever is the most defensive minded candidate

1070
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 3: gets the job, because.

1071
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: Could be Avlos, the defensive coordinator West Coast Ties.

1072
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did the thing after rich Rod. They had

1073
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 3: Rich Rod for what six seasons something like that. Yeah,

1074
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 3: and then they brought in someone who another offensive minded guy.

1075
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: But it can be another offensive minded guy. Has to

1076
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: be a better head coach. Always overreact. We're going to

1077
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: see a defense guy. You watch. By the way, I

1078
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: do want to shout out st for Sanford had a

1079
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,479
Speaker 1: really nice offensive performance a very quiet, decent team because

1080
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: it's Stanford. But yes, and Arizona State. You mentioned the

1081
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: good story. I also want to mention seventy to seven

1082
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: in a rivalry game time. Okay, let's go to the

1083
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: Big twelve, Big twelve Oklahoma State forty two to three.

1084
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: Woo wo wow.

1085
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 3: So Dylan Stoner, nice game for the Pokes offense. Dylan

1086
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 3: Stoner eight grabs for two forty seven and three touchdowns

1087
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 3: Spencer Sanders. Finally, a good game goes over three hundred

1088
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 3: close to three to fifty three scores. Conversely, I would

1089
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 3: say the Baylor offense is that screenshot you like, the

1090
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 3: tweet out of Kevin McAllister looking at the picture of

1091
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: Buzz's girlfriend. Oooh yeah, that's that's what this offense was.

1092
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 3: One hundred and fifty six total yards. Not a great

1093
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 3: showing for our boy, Chaz Brewer. I did not check

1094
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 3: the Peter Pope twitter feed here. Now, don't do it.

1095
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 3: I didn't want to do that to tell sat I

1096
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 3: don't do it. I was texted with him a little

1097
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 3: bit this week. It seemed like he had recovered nicely

1098
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 3: from game last week. So I'll have to send a

1099
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 3: proof of life message a little later today.

1100
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: But you nailed the Baylor season by the way you

1101
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: did question. I mean you were down on Baylor heading

1102
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 1: into the Earth thought that was just too much new

1103
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: both with coaches and players that I think I thought

1104
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: they were like a five hundred ish team and you were.

1105
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: You were more sub five hundred with your outlook.

1106
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 3: I still think David rand is a good coach. I

1107
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 3: just think it's gonna take a little bit to get there.

1108
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 3: I am disconcerted by the fact that it feels like

1109
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 3: they've gotten a lot worse with each week.

1110
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: Especially on all this. I mean every every school basically

1111
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: that has a new head coach that didn't get to

1112
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: fully roll out, you know, a full year of everything

1113
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: needs that full off season needs that. You know, they

1114
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: need that time the Kumbaya. So yeah, it was. It

1115
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: was ugly and good for Oklahoma State. You know, No,

1116
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: Tylon Wallace CHEWBA Hubbard opted out. Dylan Stoner has been

1117
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: consistently good. He was excellent. TCU won by forty two

1118
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: or Louisiana Tech as well to close out the Big Twelve.

1119
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: And you see you watch any of Zach Evans for TCO.

1120
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: Granted it's Louis little bit Tech, but they leaned on

1121
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: some of the younger dudes. He was the five star

1122
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: running back who committed to eleven different schools, ended up

1123
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: at TCU. You get why he's a five star. Get

1124
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, his ceiling looks if they can build an

1125
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: offense consistently. And I don't know if Max Duggan's that

1126
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: dude to really fully reach heights that TCU is envisioning,

1127
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: I assume, but Zach Evans is an interesting piece. Matsue

1128
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: was the receiver that went off against Louisiana Tech. Quentin Johnson.

1129
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: Is that his name, Quentin Johnston? Yeah, five one, three

1130
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: in a touch big dude. Interesting.

1131
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 3: Zach Evans seven for one, thirty on the ground and

1132
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 3: two touchdowns in case you're wondering, damn interesting. All right,

1133
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,479
Speaker 3: let's get to the group of five games. We talked

1134
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 3: about Coastal Carolina against Troy on the preview show. We

1135
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 3: had somebody right in about it. This is like one

1136
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 3: of two games I picked right all week. I did

1137
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 3: terribly with my picks, and somebody sent in that they

1138
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 3: were going to put all their money on Troy because

1139
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 3: the letdown effect.

1140
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: Predictions, by the way, are the stupidest thing, the dumbest thing,

1141
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: just But that's also because like you, you get something

1142
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: emphatically wrong, people let you know you get you just

1143
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: nail something nobody wants to. Nobody says, old, Dan, you

1144
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: did it again. You have to I have to bring

1145
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: back the altar of Dan. I need to brand my

1146
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,479
Speaker 1: my good or especially bad picks.

1147
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 3: But hating predictions is also something that people who aren't

1148
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 3: good at predictions would say, correct time with you. I

1149
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 3: am not saying you're bad, I'm worse, but just FYI.

1150
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 6: Right.

1151
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina forty two to thirty eight. They win.

1152
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 3: They were favored by double digits. They did need some

1153
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 3: heroics from Grayson McCall to drive seventy five yards with

1154
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 3: no timeouts for the winning touchdown, which they got with

1155
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 3: just forty five seconds left. They stand defeated. It did

1156
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 3: not cover that point spread, and now they've got Louisiana

1157
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 3: in the Fun Belt Championship next weekend.

1158
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: Can't wait, can't wait? Was that a Saturday game? I

1159
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: think it's a Saturday game. It is Saturday. Okay. We

1160
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: also got BYU by win those clunkers, ty win those

1161
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: teen over San Diego State. Nice game for Zach Wilson

1162
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: started slow. San Diego State scored first two possessions. That

1163
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: was it. That was it. And I believe BYU was

1164
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: without what Tyson Algeer and Dax. Is it Dax Romney

1165
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: something Romney, It's something like that. So yeah, BYU slow start,

1166
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,919
Speaker 1: but nice Finishan Jose State thirty.

1167
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 3: To twenty over Nevada. You boys Spartans getting the dub.

1168
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: Gunner Romney Gunner Gunner Romney. Excuse me, not Dax, but

1169
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: you could understand if there were a Dax Romney. Sure like, yeah,

1170
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: that seems that seems like a pretty good PAU player. Continue, Santa,

1171
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: You have anything poetic to say about your boys at

1172
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: San Jose State? Yeah, I do. First of all, they're

1173
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: dancing in the parking lot at Mexico Bakery, my favorite

1174
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: torta in California. It's in San Jose. Stay, I believe

1175
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: on Telegraph Road, San Jose. Nick Starkle, what a journey,

1176
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: What an absolute journey, Brent Brennan, what an absolute journey.

1177
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: They go undefeated. I have him my top four tie

1178
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: sure and ending up what they're in the championship game

1179
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: right correct, They're in the Mountain West Championship game six,

1180
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, I don't see USC at six and oh,

1181
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: I say five, and oh so college football is one

1182
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: true sparty San Jose State moving forward and nice comeback.

1183
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: The caller on the the Reverbs brought up a good

1184
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: point about them changing, you know, first half to second half,

1185
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: really destroying Nevada on the ground and Nevada defense that

1186
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: had been pretty good against the run and had made

1187
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: play through the air, which with hashtag Carson Strong, just

1188
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: a really nice story for San Jose State when you

1189
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: take that program.

1190
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 2: Now.

1191
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: I know Mike McIntyre did a good job with the Spartans,

1192
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: but a program that has had some for sure up

1193
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: and down history these past few years, was in the

1194
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: modern modern era, really proud of San Jose State to

1195
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: see a team breakthrough in such an absolutely strange year. No,

1196
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: for sure.

1197
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 3: The only other Group of five comment that I wanted

1198
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 3: to make here was do you see the end of

1199
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 3: the ball State Western Michigan game?

1200
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: I did. I don't know that touchdown so long, but

1201
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: there was.

1202
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 3: It wasn't a band, it was the It was the

1203
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 3: team out on the field mm hmm, thinking the game

1204
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 3: was over, but Western Michigan thrown it around, moving backwards

1205
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 3: until they had a seam to go forward and yep,

1206
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 3: it appeared as if ball State may have recovered a fumble,

1207
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 3: but it wasn't conclusive and Western ran for a touchdown

1208
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 3: ball State got the.

1209
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: Was a kind of forward looking pass but unclear. Yeah,

1210
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: a lot.

1211
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 3: Of uncertainty and we definitely could have used instant replay there.

1212
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 3: But wow, what a what a finish to a game

1213
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 3: that didn't come to fruition because they ruled it recovered

1214
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 3: by ball State.

1215
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have ruled it. Just give it to them.

1216
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: What the hell? Give them both a way? Just give

1217
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: it to them. Yeah. Yeah, ball State pulls it out

1218
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: against Western Michigan. Very Western Michigan, Michigan very very nice

1219
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: yere for ball State. They finished five and one. I

1220
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: don't even know if there's seasons over, ty, I'll be

1221
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: honest with you. Is ball State plied the max scheduling

1222
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: all sort of escapes me. Ball State. I believe their

1223
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,439
Speaker 1: regular season is over, but yes, a nice finish there.

1224
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois terrible year. They lose by eight to Eastern Michigan,

1225
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: who at least has won a couple straight. After starting

1226
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: zero to four UAB against Rice, they pull it out.

1227
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot to say about ub. I

1228
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: didn't watch this game, but I always like when teams

1229
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: have winning seasons in strange years. Buffalo, they just keep

1230
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: stampeding tie Buffalo term animal Acron's terrible Toledo pulled it

1231
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: out after an up and down the year against Central Michigan.

1232
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: The Chips have been okay, nothing special. You mentioned Army

1233
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: Navy fifteen to nothing. The game in it was at

1234
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: west Point, right at West Point, Yeah, very very thick

1235
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: fog there as well, thick fog, tough weather. I watched

1236
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: this game on and off because it was just it

1237
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: was entertaining to watch, but it's also difficult to see

1238
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: things in this game. But yeah, Army ran the ball,

1239
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: I guess well enough, but not a particularly exciting game

1240
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: because really down here for Navy. Otherwise, I mean, North

1241
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: Texas UTEP was entertaining. Not an amazing year for the

1242
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: Mean Green and it was Jalen Darden went off the receiver,

1243
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: So that's good. As I'm scrolling through here, I'm trying

1244
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 1: to think of anything spikes my interest beyond that. Memphis

1245
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,919
Speaker 1: Houston finally happened. Memphis one. I really wish this would

1246
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: have been as headline a matchup as we probably thought

1247
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: it was going into the year. But Memphis finally plays

1248
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: this game and Houston filis's game and Memphis wins. Didn't

1249
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,919
Speaker 1: watch it, Tye, I look forward to watching it during

1250
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: the week. Boise State a really impressive defensive performance against

1251
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: Wyoming in another snowy game. Altitude tie doesn't get higher

1252
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: than Laramie. As you know, anytime you watch Wyoming game

1253
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: does not get physically higher than Wyoming. So Boise State,

1254
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: Hank Bachmeyer decent enough the little I watched in this game.

1255
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: App State finishes the year with eight wins against a

1256
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: decent Georgia Southern team. I think that's everything. I have. Tye,

1257
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: oh New Mexico fifth string quarterback Tye playing not in

1258
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: New Mexico because they play in Vegas and they stayed

1259
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: a Hilton or a Hyatt or something on the outskirts

1260
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,919
Speaker 1: of Vegas. They take down fred No State, a decent

1261
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: enough Fresno State team and in probably their final game

1262
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: of the year because there is no Hawaii Bowl Hawaii Hawaii,

1263
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: uh Hawaii. Shavon Cordero. Really nice day once again for

1264
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: first year head coach Todd Graham, and the Warriors winless

1265
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,520
Speaker 1: season for UNLV and Marcus Arroyo.

1266
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 3: Tell me about your dudes. Is that came through very

1267
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 3: loud in my headphones.

1268
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: I don't know about your Yeah, me too. Everything about

1269
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: North Carolina attempting to run the ball, it's Michael Carter,

1270
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: Deavonte Williams and the offensive line. That's just a string

1271
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: of a cavalcade. Calde. Oh, I just had a piece

1272
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 1: of foam slide off of my wall. That's that sound

1273
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: if you heard it, that was pretty cool. Dylan Stoner

1274
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: receiver Oklahoma State, Gracey McCall for engineering that eighty R

1275
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 1: game winning drive. Jalen Darden, who I just mentioned, North

1276
01:08:53,680 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 1: Texas the receiver, Vinnie Davis, Ben George Pickens just ridiculous

1277
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: as he continues to be for Georgia at receiver, and

1278
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: I the dude of dudes, ty kde York the boot

1279
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: into the abyss with the LSU the big boot. Those

1280
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: are your dudes. Yeah, and i'd probably Drake London. He's

1281
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: pretty ridiculous to watch for USC. So next week, just

1282
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: to give you a quick look at what's going down,

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Speaker 1: it's a huge week of college football and we'll probably

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about this, as we always do

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Speaker 1: on our follow up extended recap.

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Speaker 3: Which you can get as a Patreon subscriber. Had a

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Speaker 3: bunch of big games here at USC at Washington, which

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Speaker 3: you mentioned. I think that's the match Ambassi.

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Speaker 1: Ballet's the that's the announced scheduled PAC twelve championship game.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Washington unable to field the team against Oregon

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Speaker 1: and that gets them through.

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Speaker 3: Or Wlahoma game a five point favorite against Iowa State.

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Speaker 3: They play that one at at and T Stateium in Arlington,

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Speaker 3: Northwestern against Ohio State. Ohio State about touchdown favorite. They

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Speaker 3: play this one Lucas Oil Stadium in Indy. We've got

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Speaker 3: Louisiana against Coastal Carolina. Coastal's about a four point favorite.

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Speaker 3: It's a home game for them in Conway at Brooks Stadium.

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Speaker 3: The ACC title game at Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte.

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Speaker 3: Clemson's a ten and a half point favorite. Interesting, And

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Speaker 3: the SEC title game we've got Alabama favored by about

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Speaker 3: thirteen and a half fourteen over the Florida Gators. They

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Speaker 3: play that one in Atlanta. Sure there are games are missing,

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Speaker 3: but in terms of just generally what does it look like?

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Speaker 3: It looks pretty solid for college.

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Speaker 1: Football next weekend. To close things out, we have what

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Speaker 1: what are the stray non championship matchups that are on

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Speaker 1: the docket. I'm seeing what A and M Tennessee yep,

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Speaker 1: Florida State Wake, Air Force Army, MISSOO, Misissippi State, Ole,

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Speaker 1: miss lsu uh, Tulsa, Cincinnati hope hopefully happen. And I

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Speaker 1: know Georgia Tech Miami was canceled. Coaching news ty real quick,

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Speaker 1: Blake Anderson to Utah State, Arkansas State at Utah State

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Speaker 1: New Arkansas State coach already named Butch Jones. Yep, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Butch Jones. So yeah, that stuff is all going to

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Speaker 1: be unfolding more and more coordinators, head coaches, unexpected stuff,

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Speaker 1: expected stuff. Curious to see what happens, especially now that

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Speaker 1: you know some certain teams. Now South Carolina has a

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Speaker 1: head coach and Shaneemer what he does with coordinators. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Silly season.

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