Speaker 1: What's that at the bed spooky? Hey, Juky, I'm really
Speaker 1: sure it's dead. He's coming this way. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I said, I nadas please hepoo. It's me Roz and
Speaker 1: welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I
Speaker 1: talk to people that I like about the paranormal. We
Speaker 1: have got Lisa Trager on the show today. Lisa is
Speaker 1: truly one of the best in the biz, and she's
Speaker 1: also my exactly right sister. You may know her podcast
Speaker 1: with Kara Klank called That's Messed Up. She's been on
Speaker 1: the show before. She's always just she's just the coolest. Hey,
Speaker 1: let me read you a ghost story. This one comes
Speaker 1: from anonymous. Jeeh. Can can you give me like one
Speaker 1: of those anonymous deep voices with like.
Speaker 2: A vocoder, like a voice modulator or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, why not?
Speaker 3: Thank you, hiro Was. I've never written into anything or
Speaker 3: told this story before, but here it goes. My grandfather
Speaker 3: died when I was about six years old. I remember
Speaker 3: his funeral vividly, but I remember even more what happened after.
Speaker 3: I was my grandfather's favorite, and I was almost always
Speaker 3: by his side. After his funeral, I was at his
Speaker 3: house playing outside alone and I saw my grandfather and
Speaker 3: I started talking to him. All of a sudden, I
Speaker 3: felt the overwhelming feeling of sadness, realizing he was gone.
Speaker 3: He motioned for me to go sit by him on
Speaker 3: the bench, which I did. He began to tell me
Speaker 3: everything was going to be okay, and that he was
Speaker 3: always going to be around. I started crying for a bit,
Speaker 3: and he sent me inside. I saw everyone was so sad.
Speaker 3: I never mentioned what had happened ever. Later that night,
Speaker 3: my grandmother insisted on staying home by herself. People offered
Speaker 3: to stay with her, but she didn't want anyone to.
Speaker 3: She wanted to be alone, so everyone honored her request.
Speaker 3: The next morning, we received a call that in the
Speaker 3: middle of the night, my grandmother had showed up at
Speaker 3: her neighbor's house all frazzled, stating that my grandfather was
Speaker 3: at the house angry and causing a mess. The neighbors
Speaker 3: were able to calm her down and didn't call anyone
Speaker 3: until the morning. That morning, my parents, uncles, and aunts
Speaker 3: showed up at her home and it was ransacked. Furniture
Speaker 3: was tossed around the house, Curtains were ripped off the windows,
Speaker 3: couches were overturned. No one had an explanation, and my
Speaker 3: grandma stated it was my grandfather who had done it.
Speaker 3: Some of the furniture was too heavy to lift, so
Speaker 3: it couldn't have been her. It wasn't an attempted robbery either,
Speaker 3: because nothing at all was missing or broken, just tossed around.
Speaker 3: Everything was cleaned up, and no one ever mentioned it again.
Speaker 3: I've tried to bring it up, but no one ever
Speaker 3: wants to talk about it. They act like I'm making
Speaker 3: it up, but I'm not. I know I was young,
Speaker 3: but it's something I cannot forget. I'm not really sure
Speaker 3: that it was my grandfather, as there was always weird
Speaker 3: things happening at that home. Maybe whatever there was was
Speaker 3: sad that my grandfather was gone. Some of my uncles
Speaker 3: had bad experiences there and would refuse to stay after
Speaker 3: sundown or spend the night because of it. When I
Speaker 3: saw my grandfather earlier that day, I didn't feel he
Speaker 3: was angry, so I don't know what it could have been.
Speaker 3: No one in the family ever wants to talk about it,
Speaker 3: and most of the people that were there are gone now.
Speaker 3: But it's something I will never forget.
Speaker 1: Say Anonymous that is weird, so there was already a
Speaker 1: ghost there. Interesting, it probably was the original ghost that
Speaker 1: was like I want attention to. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: my poor grandmother. That's a lot to deal with on
Speaker 1: a night like that. Thanks for sending that, Anonymous. Just
Speaker 1: a quick reminder that I am traveling the country telling
Speaker 1: jokes at primarily LGBTQ. You establishments all across America. Uh
Speaker 1: ros Hernandez tour dot com is where you can get
Speaker 1: the tickets. The reviews have come in. People are enjoying
Speaker 1: the show, and I am having so much fun and
Speaker 1: I would love to see you there. I might not
Speaker 1: be directly in the exact city that you're at, but
Speaker 1: I'm the closest I've ever been. I can tell you that. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. Let's talk to Lisa Tragger on with
Speaker 1: the show. My head you guys, I am once again joined.
Speaker 2: By Lisa Trager.
Speaker 1: Boo, hi, oh are some of my audience members here booing?
Speaker 1: I'm I'm wacky.
Speaker 2: Today, I'm I'm energized. I'm energized.
Speaker 1: Stud. So you're a New Yorker, you gotta be.
Speaker 2: Yeah the time, yeah, I guess I get more sleep
Speaker 2: here if.
Speaker 1: The time difference see that's nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel refreshed, honestly, But I was up. I
Speaker 2: was up at like seven thirty, but then I snoozed
Speaker 2: until eight o six.
Speaker 1: Oh, I was snoozing away today. But they call me
Speaker 1: snooze and honey.
Speaker 2: I always I have to snooze. I'll send an alarm
Speaker 2: earlier just so I get snooze once or twice. I
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: I love a good snooze.
Speaker 2: I like being kind of conscious, kind of not laying
Speaker 2: around that states. Yeah, I'll check the cinematrix for the day.
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 2: It's well, Movie Grid is the original game, but Vulture
Speaker 2: as a cinematrix every day, and it's a grid game.
Speaker 2: So it's like nine boxes and then the categories are
Speaker 2: up here, and then they'll put actors right here and
Speaker 2: you fill in the box. Oh that's fine, multiple answers
Speaker 2: for each one. But the more obscurior answer, the more
Speaker 2: points you get, and you're trying to get.
Speaker 1: Are you good with that kind of a thing.
Speaker 2: It depends who it is. So there's movie Snake, there's
Speaker 2: different games. So sometimes I'm like top ten percent, top
Speaker 2: eight percent of the day, top fifteen, and then sometimes
Speaker 2: I'm just top fifty and it's fine, top eight, Like
Speaker 2: it just depends who it is today. I'm like, what's
Speaker 2: on Michael Fastpend or a movie that.
Speaker 1: Starts with a vowel.
Speaker 2: But I'll get there by the end of the day,
Speaker 2: and I don't cheat, and if I cheat, I don't
Speaker 2: count the score. But like they have, but sometimes it's
Speaker 2: like I don't know Liza Minelli's outside of cabaret. Sorry,
Speaker 2: so it's not my day.
Speaker 1: Oh call me if you have that one, Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: help you with that.
Speaker 2: But if it's like a Robert de Niro, Julia Roberts,
Speaker 2: Michelle Pfeiffer.
Speaker 1: I'm in right.
Speaker 2: We got a Denzel Samuel Jackson, I all day.
Speaker 1: So it's one actor every day, and no.
Speaker 2: It's three, ok and then three so it'll be like
Speaker 2: one word movie movie that came out between nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: and twenty ten, and then movie that was nominated for
Speaker 2: an Oscar okay, and then here it'll have Kirsten Dunst,
Speaker 2: Michael Fastbend, Rihanna oh Rand. Yeah. One time they had
Speaker 2: like a Rihanna Beyonce Taylor Swift and that was kind
Speaker 2: of fun, but not that much because they don't have
Speaker 2: that many movies, so you can't get that obscure.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh yeah, Battleship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be the one word. And then movie Snake,
Speaker 2: which is part of Movie Grid. It's one actor for
Speaker 2: the day and there's like a snake of categories. So
Speaker 2: it'll be like a movie that starts with the n M,
Speaker 2: a movie that came out in nineteen seventy to nineteen ninety, and.
Speaker 1: We'll be like all one person speaking of snakes. That's
Speaker 1: my number one fear is a snake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I don't like snakes. Actually, just
Speaker 2: did a petting zoos show as the stand up show
Speaker 2: where you hold an animal while you perform. I held chinchillas.
Speaker 1: Oh those are cute.
Speaker 2: They're cute. They're active though, so I have the cutest, fuzziest,
Speaker 2: softest but they're running on you. Okay, like the beard
Speaker 2: a dragon. They don't move.
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But a girl did two snakes.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, that is Michelle Donna.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could pay me because of America's Next Top
Speaker 2: Model and the education I got. I would persevere for
Speaker 2: a job, but I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't think I could. Maybe maybe.
Speaker 2: Wait, I have to tell you what happened on my
Speaker 2: way here. I went to get some a coffee and
Speaker 2: a bagel. Right as I'm walking, two hot guys are
Speaker 2: making out and it's romantic, you know, it's early in
Speaker 2: the morning. They're they're being cute. I'm walking. I see
Speaker 2: a bunch of fucking I think they're my culture. We'll
Speaker 2: see but like old immigrant dudes. And I could tell
Speaker 2: they were not liking the making out. And so as
Speaker 2: I'm walking, I see them and one of them goes, ah,
Speaker 2: this is America. You know, he's pissed, and so I
Speaker 2: turn around and I flick them off and I go
Speaker 2: fuck you. But the gay guys think I'm saying it
Speaker 2: at them.
Speaker 1: Oh no, So I keep walking and.
Speaker 2: Then for something was I turned around and they were
Speaker 2: staring at me, talking and I go, oh no. I
Speaker 2: was like defending you guys to them, but they I
Speaker 2: should have just left it alone. They were just making out,
Speaker 2: but then we all started laughing. I go, no, I
Speaker 2: told them to fuck off. They were being shady and
Speaker 2: they were like, oh good, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, I'm like you can keep making out. I
Speaker 2: liked it, but they thought.
Speaker 1: I tell them they need to google you'd be like
Speaker 1: I'm an ally to gay men, I promise, but they.
Speaker 2: Know they didn't see what was happening or what those
Speaker 2: guys they were making out, so all they saw was
Speaker 2: a woman walk by them. Fuck, I say, fuck you.
Speaker 2: Oh no, but I cleared it up. Okay, good, But yeah,
Speaker 2: that happens a lot in LA wildly. These old dudes
Speaker 2: always have something to say, and I am always there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I'm I'm so used to it. Well,
Speaker 1: and that's like I'm traveling a lot right now and
Speaker 1: people keep telling me like, aren't you scared of and
Speaker 1: I am, yes. But also like in Los Angeles is
Speaker 1: where I've had the most people just like shout out
Speaker 1: slurs to me. Yeah. So yeah, it happens anywhere. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It happened once since Silver Lake. It was like, you know,
Speaker 2: some dude was being mean to someone wearing heels and
Speaker 2: I went, well, they look better than you. Ooh, and
Speaker 2: you know we had words. I will fight.
Speaker 1: I like that about you.
Speaker 2: I'll fight. I don't mind my business. I'll get in
Speaker 2: and I will fight.
Speaker 1: You're like a little bit scary, like a little bit intimidating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you get to.
Speaker 1: Know me, and you know I'm not, but yeah, you
Speaker 1: are sweet, but you are intimidating, Like I wouldn't. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want.
Speaker 2: To a virgo. There's a sense of justice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not starting a fight with you.
Speaker 2: You can and I don't read, you know, if it's
Speaker 2: like something about you know, but I've ever been in
Speaker 2: a physical fight, Well that's it never goes that far.
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Have you had any ghost experiences?
Speaker 2: No, it's devastating. And you know I live in New York.
Speaker 2: Now my building is for pre war nineteen twenties, you know,
Speaker 2: like and nothing, nothing, just the radiators screeching.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's probably for the best. You
Speaker 1: don't want that. I don't, But I get enough going on.
Speaker 1: You don't need like some ghosts.
Speaker 2: You're right, You're right. I don't want to invite spirits,
Speaker 2: but I want to feel something. Yeah, I want to
Speaker 2: get a little wink from some of the other side. Well,
Speaker 2: I also have never met my grandparents. They all were dead,
Speaker 2: so like, I really want to connect with them.
Speaker 1: Didn't we talk about you going to a psychic Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wasn't, you know, I didn't really, I never did it.
Speaker 2: Oh I did it.
Speaker 1: Oh you did yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: I gave her too much info. I you know, she
Speaker 2: like ended up saying a few things where she misheard
Speaker 2: me and she went off of what I said, oh
Speaker 2: and not. And so then I was like, oh, you're
Speaker 2: like a fraud.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. So she took a little bread crumb and
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, oh like you I'm picking up.
Speaker 2: On Yeah, but she misheard me. So it was just
Speaker 2: like an obvious Oh, you're just making shit up.
Speaker 1: That's like she's she clearly took an improv and like
Speaker 1: she's listening and trying to yes, and but you can't
Speaker 1: do that if you're not hearing correctly.
Speaker 2: No. And then I had a dumb bitch. I don't
Speaker 2: know when I was here last, but I had a
Speaker 2: friend die and this person I don't like came up
Speaker 2: to me at a party and said, hey, like, I
Speaker 2: have to talk to you, but like later, and I
Speaker 2: went okay, and then she goes, do you believe in psychic
Speaker 2: So I go I do it. She goes, yeah, we
Speaker 2: have to talk later. I go, great, like get out
Speaker 2: of my way, and she goes, I'll just tell you now.
Speaker 2: And it's like okay, and then she goes, well, I
Speaker 2: went to a psychic and she started talking about my
Speaker 2: dead friend and that he said that he really likes
Speaker 2: that I forgave her and that we're working on our
Speaker 2: friendship and that he's probably like all this stuff that
Speaker 2: my dead friend could give a shit about this bitch,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean.
Speaker 2: He came to your psychic reading to tell, hey, you
Speaker 2: that we should be friends. Okay, you psychoba, that was
Speaker 2: like my final straw with her final straw, and it
Speaker 2: was like it was the Tom Brady roast. So you know,
Speaker 2: I felt important and cool to be there, and I
Speaker 2: mean to be like reminded of my dead friend and
Speaker 2: then you lying and trying to manipulate your way back
Speaker 2: into my life through.
Speaker 1: Visiting a psychic. Oh god, psychic, I hate that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hate that so much. I think people can use
Speaker 1: psychics to be like, well a psychic said, see, like okay,
Speaker 1: I am convinced, like a psychic told me that a
Speaker 1: man with brown hair and facial hair is who I'm
Speaker 1: going to end up with, and so I have used
Speaker 1: that to manipulate men before, and be like, well, psychic said,
Speaker 1: like is that you? And I think that's really fucked up.
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
Speaker 1: I don't think people should be like because a psychic
Speaker 1: said this thing, that means that now it's true and
Speaker 1: you it's your problem.
Speaker 2: But are these dudes like ooh yay, or.
Speaker 1: They like get me out of here? Absolutely, they are gone.
Speaker 1: They do that that cartoon thing where it's like like
Speaker 1: they're just dust.
Speaker 2: But you want them to be dust?
Speaker 1: No? Why no? I do this so that if this
Speaker 1: is my version of like flirting, I'm like, just so
Speaker 1: you know, as psychic said.
Speaker 2: And then they run. Yeah, it's too much.
Speaker 1: Here's what I like.
Speaker 2: You should tell someone after you're engaged and then you go,
Speaker 2: you know, a psychic and do this would happened? Do
Speaker 2: you not go for blondes?
Speaker 1: I go for anyone. Okay, specifically if they don't live
Speaker 1: in America.
Speaker 2: You like a long distance foreigner.
Speaker 1: I'm trying so hard to be on ninety day fiance.
Speaker 2: Ooah, you would be good on it.
Speaker 1: I need the airtime on TV. I think I would
Speaker 1: be good.
Speaker 2: I think they'd be happy when they met you. What
Speaker 2: country are you thinking?
Speaker 1: Europe?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Somewhere somewhere nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's what I like about you.
Speaker 1: And there's many things I like about you. But I
Speaker 1: like that you like a little bit of tea. You
Speaker 1: like you like hearing like some drama.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feeds me.
Speaker 1: So I tried to do some research to find ghost drama,
Speaker 1: ghost trama. Okay, great, these are all stories I found about,
Speaker 1: like first wife coming back to haunt, Second wife cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, God, I did an astrology podcast yesterday and for fun,
Speaker 2: she does birth charts of ghosts and like dead people.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, anything good come up?
Speaker 2: She there was this woman Fritzie, who was like kind
Speaker 2: of wild in LA and was like someone's neighbor and
Speaker 2: she just looked all the stuff up about her, like
Speaker 2: she looks up famous to dead people too, and like
Speaker 2: because then you have the complete life and does the
Speaker 2: full birth charts of like Audrey Hepburn and whatever.
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone in LA has a neighbor named Fritzie.
Speaker 1: That just feels right. This first one's like kind of
Speaker 1: tame and believable, like I could see this happening. This
Speaker 1: story first is not really one where it's like her
Speaker 1: ghost kept creeping up on me. Like it's not like that.
Speaker 1: It's more so that she married a guy and then
Speaker 1: like shit started happening, like the house kept like falling apart,
Speaker 1: and it was like, so this author Bianca Touretsky, she does.
Speaker 2: This an iPad or you just hit your laptop screen.
Speaker 1: The way you're doing. Am I hitting it?
Speaker 2: No? But you are clicking. You're like, yeah, that's crazy
Speaker 2: to me, is it? That's not a touchable screen?
Speaker 1: No, okay, I just click it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe the audience could let you know how they
Speaker 2: feel about this. Maybe I'm wrong. I mean it might,
Speaker 2: but you're not supposed to be like clicking and clacking.
Speaker 1: I was doing that. I just here's the thing. I
Speaker 1: pay good money for these nails. I want to hear that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you scratch your head a lot?
Speaker 1: Non stop?
Speaker 2: So nice?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just too gross for long nails. Wait a second,
Speaker 1: what I just remembered, what did I do? You did
Speaker 1: do something? Somebody told me one time. I was at
Speaker 1: a party. Yeah, and people were like, oh, look at
Speaker 1: your nails, and they go, I don't like long nails
Speaker 1: because Lisa Trigger said and her stand up that people
Speaker 1: with long nails have shit under them.
Speaker 2: I do. I do a joke about that. Well, because
Speaker 2: it's hard to wipe. Don't you feel like it's hard
Speaker 2: to wipe? It's like a whole process. It's different and
Speaker 2: things get stuck under there. But you seem like a
Speaker 2: clean person.
Speaker 1: I cannot help you.
Speaker 2: And you smell like fresh laundry.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I can confirm there was no shit underneath
Speaker 1: my nails right now.
Speaker 2: I can't believe them taking it and running with it.
Speaker 1: Somebody you that's like I.
Speaker 2: Said, don't shake the hand of a long nailed bitch.
Speaker 2: I say the hugs only.
Speaker 1: Lisa, you really fucked up my life because of that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't it harder to do it? And you feel
Speaker 2: like they're about to fall off? Like I met one woman.
Speaker 2: She brings Latex clubs. She wears Latex clubs when she wipes.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what are these people eating?
Speaker 2: Or they get bidets? A lot of them have bidets,
Speaker 2: of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's part of the reason why I like these
Speaker 1: European men. They are so cleanly. Oh okay, okay, So
Speaker 1: back to this, So okay. This This author named Bianca Touretsky.
Speaker 1: She wrote this essay story I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: exactly what you call it for the Today Show dot com,
Speaker 1: Today dot com, and it says, I'm living with the
Speaker 1: ghost of my husband's first wife, So I'll basically summarize it.
Speaker 1: So she meets this husband. The husband happens to have
Speaker 1: a house in Saghart Harbor, which is a seaside village
Speaker 1: on Long Island, and she thought right away that his wife,
Speaker 1: his first wife, Ruth, was trying to kill her. She
Speaker 1: had been dead for six years at that point, and
Speaker 1: you know, this house was like beautiful. They tried to
Speaker 1: build it together the first wife, and she never really
Speaker 1: got to see it, and so it kind of just
Speaker 1: like sat empty for a long time. And then once
Speaker 1: the man starts dating Bianca, then they're like, you know,
Speaker 1: let's spend more time there. And the first thing that happened,
Speaker 1: she goes in there and she's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: there's like like it smells like poisonous air, like this
Speaker 1: is bad, which was like the house has been sitting
Speaker 1: for a long time, just empty. But she's kind of like, okay,
Speaker 1: this bitch is trying to kill me. Okay. So then
Speaker 1: she has a dream that night that Ruth is Ruth,
Speaker 1: the first wife, is still alive, and that she had
Speaker 1: never died. She was in a coma and she had
Speaker 1: woken up and she was looking for her family, and
Speaker 1: she's like, who are you? And in the dream, Bianca
Speaker 1: was hiding in her bedroom trying to stay quiet so
Speaker 1: that she could find her. She's like literally like hiding
Speaker 1: as this woman's like, what is going on? Is my
Speaker 1: husband cheating on me? Whatever? And then she woke up
Speaker 1: gasman for air and her husband was like, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I was wondering when that was going to happen to
Speaker 1: you because I keep having that same dream. So the
Speaker 1: two of them they got headaches in this house because
Speaker 1: of the smell.
Speaker 2: And I mean, did they call anybody? They just went
Speaker 2: straight to ghosts. They're not going to call one professional.
Speaker 1: They did, Okay. Then a tree fell in the driveway
Speaker 1: one day when they were trying to come through, and
Speaker 1: the way she interpreted it was you're now welcome here.
Speaker 1: She also found she heard unexplained noises in the addict.
Speaker 1: One time there was dead flying squirrels buried in the
Speaker 1: laundry basket. What, oh my god.
Speaker 2: I was with a friend yesterday and she said what
Speaker 2: I heard was I saw a girl get hit by
Speaker 2: a car and die. And I go, you don't seem
Speaker 2: that effect, Like what the fuck are you? Okay, but
Speaker 2: she said squirrel. Oh, but I was like you, I
Speaker 2: didn't mention it the whole dinner. I saw a child
Speaker 2: fucking die. You waited till we left the restaurant to mention.
Speaker 1: Well, this woman found three dead squirrels, not humans, buried
Speaker 1: in her laundry basket, which feels weird because.
Speaker 2: Doing this, you think he is Yeah, I think he's
Speaker 2: a sick. Oh you think a ghost is able to
Speaker 2: kill three squirrels and put him in a basket.
Speaker 1: I mean, how would that happen. It's like they're not
Speaker 1: going to die in the laundry, right, Like maybe they're
Speaker 1: huddling for warmth or whatever, but like they're not all
Speaker 1: three gonna die at the same time.
Speaker 2: I just feel like ghosts can do stuff, but I
Speaker 2: don't think they can, Like there's a lere squirrels and
Speaker 2: murder them one by one, yeah, yeah, and leave them
Speaker 2: where she won't, Like, I don't.
Speaker 1: There's there's a limit to what you can do and whatever.
Speaker 1: Who knows. She says it seemed like the house was
Speaker 1: crying because the water was seeping through the shingles. So basically,
Speaker 1: this is an old ass house that's like falling apart.
Speaker 1: So she kind of is like interpreting this as it's
Speaker 1: the wife being like, bitch, I don't like you. So basically,
Speaker 1: after a few months, she was trying to tell the
Speaker 1: wife like I'm here to like protect the family, like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna do my best. You know. They end
Speaker 1: up getting married, and she mentioned her at her wedding
Speaker 1: toast and everything. It seems like everything was fine, but
Speaker 1: then they like go back to the house one time
Speaker 1: and the smell is back, and they go upstairs, and
Speaker 1: as soon as they go into the guest bedroom, the
Speaker 1: entire ceiling just caves in on them. No, it caves
Speaker 1: in on the bed, like it was like dripping on
Speaker 1: the bed, and then it just as soon as they
Speaker 1: walk in, it caves in. She says, the water was
Speaker 1: leaking over, so the husband shuts off the water. We
Speaker 1: pack up the car, we head back to our other home,
Speaker 1: and she says, I think I will always feel Ruth's
Speaker 1: presence in this house and in our marriage, but I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want it any other way. I mean, okay, maybe, yes, fine,
Speaker 1: I believe all those things happen for sure, but I
Speaker 1: mean the squirrel one.
Speaker 2: I mean for her to be like I wouldn't want
Speaker 2: it any other way. And it's like, so you're down
Speaker 2: with the ghost trying to murder you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like this ghost is truly trying. But
Speaker 1: here's what I always say about ghosts, that like would
Speaker 1: want to kill you or what like, anytime you're like,
Speaker 1: aren't you afraid it? Ghosts gonna kill you if you
Speaker 1: kill me? Now I'm on your plane. Okay, Now I'm
Speaker 1: a ghost too, which means I could whoop your ass,
Speaker 1: like right now, if I punch, it's just gonna go through.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying if the first wife wants to kill her, huh,
Speaker 1: that's not a smart idea, because now you're gonna deal
Speaker 1: with with me being a fresh new ghost, and I'll
Speaker 1: be able to whoop your ass. I can't really whoop
Speaker 1: your ass right now because you're see through and I'm not.
Speaker 1: But once we're both see.
Speaker 2: Through, bitch, I'm coming for you. Ah.
Speaker 1: So that's how I feel about ghost.
Speaker 2: The husband's truly a murderer. And then then living people
Speaker 2: and then you meet up and they may the women
Speaker 2: will meet up in ghostland bond and it will be
Speaker 2: like a John Tucker must die.
Speaker 1: I mean this could be That's that sounds like a
Speaker 1: I don't know Sandra Bullock movie. Okay, let's get a
Speaker 1: little bit juicier. How about this one from nineteen twenty two.
Speaker 1: There's this really amazing blog called Notebook of Ghosts, and
Speaker 1: the person who runs this found all the all these
Speaker 1: like old newspaper articles which are like kind of hard
Speaker 1: to read, but basically these are all stories of the
Speaker 1: first wives coming back. So from nineteen twenty two, the
Speaker 1: ghost of his first wife throws a flat iron at
Speaker 1: number two. So basically with this one, it was in Meriden, Connecticut,
Speaker 1: and a guy named Ryan gold Kerstein.
Speaker 2: Not Connecticut, right, gold Twisted?
Speaker 1: Are they twisted? There? Twisted? Well, so we're the ghosts, honey.
Speaker 1: So basically he gets married again. So his first wife
Speaker 1: died in nineteen twenty one, and then he married, I
Speaker 1: guess in nineteen twenty two. That's you gotta wait a
Speaker 1: little bit. But so he married, uh, married this girl.
Speaker 1: She had been a nurse in the war, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And then she says that the ghost of the first
Speaker 1: wife passed through walls, doors and ceilings, and she's been
Speaker 1: around acting very hostile. She said, quote, I knew it
Speaker 1: was the ghost of the first wife. She did not
Speaker 1: want me here, and I stalled off the inevitable until
Speaker 1: February eighth. Then missus Kay number two, the second wife,
Speaker 1: reported that the ghost had been around. She was unpleasant.
Speaker 1: She picked up in a flat iron and threw it
Speaker 1: out her I like this, bitch the first wife. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm on the first wife side. You gotta wait more
Speaker 1: than a year. I will throw a flat iron at
Speaker 1: you if you you know. I just sorry, mom, if
Speaker 1: you're listening. But I just hooked up with a guy.
Speaker 1: I had not really met him before, and I was like,
Speaker 1: if you kill me, I will haunt you. And I'm
Speaker 1: resistant to any holy water say it will not work.
Speaker 1: I will haunt you the rest of your life and
Speaker 1: I will make your life miserable. And I think I'm
Speaker 1: going to continue to say that to people.
Speaker 2: What was the reaction?
Speaker 1: He was like, Okay, I'm not going to kill you.
Speaker 1: And he didn't. It works.
Speaker 2: Did he give you murder vibes or this?
Speaker 1: No, no at all, but just to be said, just
Speaker 1: to be safe. Okay. Here's another one. That ghost of
Speaker 1: the first wife scrambled his honeymoon. It says from nineteen
Speaker 1: twenty three. This a different situation it says, in the
Speaker 1: night of our honeymoon, my husband told me that he
Speaker 1: would have to leave me because he was haunted by
Speaker 1: the spirit of his first wife. The statement, together with
Speaker 1: other evidences of incompatibility, she related to the Supreme Court justice,
Speaker 1: which resulted in a separation decree. So they got a
Speaker 1: divorce because she was like, one of the problems with
Speaker 1: this man is he keeps saying his first wife is
Speaker 1: a ghost. So she married this guy. He was the
Speaker 1: president of Amherst's Knitting Mills, and immediately after the ceremony
Speaker 1: they left on a honeymoon. On the night of September eighth,
Speaker 1: while in Millwood, Pennsylvania, she says that he told her
Speaker 1: about the return of his wife's spirit, and the next
Speaker 1: morning she left him to go live with her sister.
Speaker 2: So she was like a religious woman. She didn't like
Speaker 2: caring about the spirits.
Speaker 1: Well, it's also just like I don't want to hear
Speaker 1: about I don't want to hear about her, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And why didn't he bring her up until post wedding,
Speaker 2: Like you knew she was haunting your ass?
Speaker 1: Like it's one thing to be like, yes, I will
Speaker 1: absolutely acknowledge that she was a huge part of your life,
Speaker 1: you know whatever. But if you're gonna say, she's right
Speaker 1: here in this room, right now, invisible, staring at us,
Speaker 1: watching us get busy on our honeymoon. No, this is not.
Speaker 1: We're not We're not doing a throat bole.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Here's another one. Nineteen twenty four. First Wive's ghosts halts
Speaker 1: Chinese wedding. Okay, this was in the associated press. Uh
Speaker 1: and peeking.
Speaker 2: Oh like the duck.
Speaker 1: Yes. So, First wife's ghost holds Chinese wedding, claiming that
Speaker 1: she was pushed by the ghost of her prospective husband's
Speaker 1: deceased wife. A Chinese bride to be caused a sensation
Speaker 1: in the street outside had a men gate recently by
Speaker 1: leaping from the idle sedan chair in which she was
Speaker 1: being conveyed to her prospective husband's home. So she says
Speaker 1: that the ghost pushed her out of the chair. As
Speaker 1: the girl sat weeping in the dust. She explained to
Speaker 1: the go between representing the groom's family and to the
Speaker 1: crowd which gathered that as she was entering the chair
Speaker 1: at her own home, she observed a disheveled woman following her. Oh,
Speaker 1: she threw a disheveled suddenly she felt herself propelled out
Speaker 1: of the chair. She felt convinced, she said that she
Speaker 1: was under the spell of the first wife, who naturally
Speaker 1: felt annoyed at seeing her former place about to be usurped.
Speaker 1: After much persuasion, the bride was induced to proceed to
Speaker 1: the ceremony, and there was no further mishap. So it
Speaker 1: was just a quick little the first wife tried.
Speaker 2: She looked all disheveled, seem like this bride was like,
Speaker 2: I get it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But apparently she told everyone there, like just so you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't just fall. It was his bitch first wife
Speaker 1: that just picked me up, but through me. I want
Speaker 1: that to be very clear. And I'm picturing like how
Speaker 1: it is in like a rom com or something where
Speaker 1: it's like this poor lady, she's like been running through
Speaker 1: the mud, like stop. But that's so sad. The first wife, Oh,
Speaker 1: I feel bad for these First wife goes, well, it
Speaker 1: depends how they died.
Speaker 2: I guess dying young is never is always a tragedy.
Speaker 2: There's not like a chill way. But I'm just curious
Speaker 2: if they were murdered by these men or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't say anything about that.
Speaker 2: No, there'd be more, there'd be more info about the
Speaker 2: prison and stuff.
Speaker 1: But can I show you a haunted doll? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: time for the dolls are living. I'm excited. Okay, So
Speaker 1: every time we go to eBay we find a haunted doll.
Speaker 1: This one is named Philip, and he's going for forty
Speaker 1: five dollars. Jeeha, show us phil up, you got it?
Speaker 1: Ras Okay, I don't hate Philip. He is giving baby
Speaker 1: Sinclair from the Dinosaurs. Do you remember that character? Not
Speaker 1: the Mama, not the Mama?
Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, not the mamas cuter than this doll.
Speaker 1: This doll? Why does he look like that?
Speaker 2: Well, he helped a woman who couldn't conceive, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like he was a part of He
Speaker 2: was loved by a woman who needed him, and that's important.
Speaker 1: He looks like when the Grinch is little, if they
Speaker 1: shaved him, but like if they shaved every all the
Speaker 1: green hair off. That's sort of what he looks like.
Speaker 1: He's a little blonde. I can't really tell what the
Speaker 1: hat is. Is that like a baseball cap or is
Speaker 1: that a beret? Oh sloppy baseball cap looks at their
Speaker 1: stars on the top. I'm not gonna lie. He's very androgynous.
Speaker 1: If you told me that was a girl, I would
Speaker 1: believe it too, because he's got full blush. It's a
Speaker 1: very bad hair guy. He's got lots of blush on.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Someone who lived is now dead
Speaker 1: and in that doll, and for forty five dollars you
Speaker 1: can buy the doll that comes with the ghost of
Speaker 1: a formerly living person. So here's what it says about Philip.
Speaker 1: It says he may look like a sweet faced toddler
Speaker 1: touching his favorite Teddy Bears, but don't let his innocent
Speaker 1: appearance fool you. This spirited little boy has a presence
Speaker 1: that's far from ordinary. Behind those wide, icy blue eyes
Speaker 1: is a childlike energy that's been known to tug gently
Speaker 1: on your clothes, oh my god, hide small objects, or
Speaker 1: even giggle faintly when no one is around. He's believed
Speaker 1: to be about four or five years old when he
Speaker 1: he died. Okay, oh that makes it sad. Yeah, that's sad.
Speaker 1: That's no longer fun. But he's most active if you
Speaker 1: play lullabies, and several have reported that their electronic toys
Speaker 1: turn on by themselves and they feel a dog on
Speaker 1: their blanket and the dead of night.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Look he has a piece of material
Speaker 2: in his fucking little fist. Look at his fist. Is
Speaker 2: that he's holding something.
Speaker 1: He's holding like a piece of the bear.
Speaker 2: That motherfucker. I don't like Philip no more.
Speaker 1: If I woke up in the middle of night and
Speaker 1: this little hairless grinch is tugging on my bed and
Speaker 1: can't go like the window, I don't even know what
Speaker 1: I would do.
Speaker 2: Would out the window.
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's porcelain, because I would get a hammer.
Speaker 1: I don't like this. I don't like this doll, and
Speaker 1: I truly believe that it's haunted. Can I play some
Speaker 1: ghost voices?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 1: It's time for ev or ev plice. Okay, so EVP
Speaker 1: electronic voice phenomenal.
Speaker 2: I'm Philip's not looking at.
Speaker 1: Us now, God, thank god.
Speaker 2: Do you think someone's living in this guy? Uh?
Speaker 1: My Liberaci doll? No, I wish I wish actual Liberaci
Speaker 1: was in there. That would be so cute. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I've got two voices for you that are allegedly ghost
Speaker 1: speaking that somebody captured and plopped up on YouTube. These
Speaker 1: are both from the same place It's a YouTube channel
Speaker 1: called a Haunting. We will go, Okay, paranormal and this
Speaker 1: first one is at Yorktown Memorial Hospital in Yorktown, Texas.
Speaker 1: I look this place up. It looks terrifying.
Speaker 2: Would you marry someone that didn't believe in ghosts?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? I would prefer that. I don't need some guy
Speaker 1: being like my first wife's coming back. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1: What is this ghost saying at the Yorktown Memorial Hospital
Speaker 1: in Yorktown, Texas? Play it again.
Speaker 2: I want something horny horny ghosts.
Speaker 1: You think it's saying horny? I know, you think it's
Speaker 1: like I want, I want.
Speaker 2: Did you read the Scary story where scary stories are
Speaker 2: telling the dog? No? But I tried to watch a
Speaker 2: documentary about that, but it was not very good. But no,
Speaker 2: like a nurse was. You know, when people are dying
Speaker 2: in the hospital, a lot of people have their last words.
Speaker 2: And so this woman confessed to like falsely accusing like
Speaker 2: a young black boy of doing something he didn't do,
Speaker 2: and he got like lynched and murdered. And it was
Speaker 2: because she was jealous of his sister's dresses, like they
Speaker 2: were cute dresses, and so she got this little boy murdered,
Speaker 2: and the nurse goes, well, I don't forgive you. The
Speaker 2: only person that will is like the fucking devil, Like
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not like releasing you of this. And
Speaker 2: then the woman says, well, because I've been seeing visions
Speaker 2: of a little black boy in my room and so
Speaker 2: at the foot of the bed, this boy was waiting
Speaker 2: for her.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, it's like, you're about to be on the
Speaker 1: same plane as me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm getting chills even just thinking about it.
Speaker 1: But this is a real story.
Speaker 2: It's like, uh, you know, like a nurse said that
Speaker 2: that's happened. Yeah, this woman was like seeing this boy
Speaker 2: that she fucking falsely accused of something stupid.
Speaker 1: That got him murdered.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to She got to live with it
Speaker 2: forever and wanted the nurse to be like, you're good,
Speaker 2: and she went fuck you. Yeah, and yeah, now they're
Speaker 2: gonna be on the same plane.
Speaker 1: Well, what's a nurse gonna do? What do you think
Speaker 1: the nurse is gonna do about that? Honey, that's your
Speaker 1: problem problem. You could just falsely accuse somebody in a
Speaker 1: racial way and then they die, and then the nurse
Speaker 1: is gonna be.
Speaker 2: Like, okay, no problem, dear.
Speaker 1: How's your pillow? No?
Speaker 2: No, fuck up? So you didn't hear that one? So
Speaker 2: I brought a ghost story to you. It feels good,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 1: Okay, Wait, let's we're gonna guess what this ghost is saying.
Speaker 1: So you think it's just saying I want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't hear the next part, but it is
Speaker 2: giving me shivers, like I don't want to keep listening.
Speaker 1: Well, did they think it was a whoa? You know,
Speaker 1: like when you're in you know, like you know, when
Speaker 1: you're dramatic and you say, oh but with two syllables?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay was it?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 1: B at work? See Edward or d air one?
Speaker 2: Let's hear it again. Okay, maybe it's Edward. Now I
Speaker 2: think it's I want. Sorry, those options are not for me.
Speaker 2: Why did they think they heard?
Speaker 1: They think it was be at work? Okay, let's listen
Speaker 1: at work?
Speaker 2: Why would the ghost be at work? Or is he
Speaker 2: trying to solve a crime?
Speaker 1: This ghost? Yeah, this ghost? Or maybe he was like, yes, work, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that feels more like it. Yeah, Okay, this next place,
Speaker 1: this place seems a little bit juicy from what I've
Speaker 1: read about it it's a former bordello, which I first
Speaker 1: of all love that word, and it's in Texas. It's
Speaker 1: called Miss Hattie's Bordello. Uh oh. And this one has
Speaker 1: like kind of a juicy story, but it also seems
Speaker 1: like it's a wise tale based on what I've read.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, all we know is that allegedly it was
Speaker 1: at one point a brothel bordello. And this person on
Speaker 1: ghost Texas dot Com says the current location that we
Speaker 1: know of is Miss Hatties also houses Legend Jewelers. A
Speaker 1: guy named Mark Priest owns the Miss Hattie's Museum and
Speaker 1: jewelry store. They say the place is very haunted. The
Speaker 1: articles that I have read, according to this person says,
Speaker 1: the reported activity at this location listed wispy apparitions appearing
Speaker 1: in mirrors, people being touched shadows, ghosts having drinks at
Speaker 1: the restaurant, and alarms going off for no reason. Other
Speaker 1: paranormal claims include objects moving on their own, such as
Speaker 1: pots and pans dropping off of their hooks in the kitchen,
Speaker 1: jewels and the jewelry shop going missing only to reappear
Speaker 1: the next day, and tourists catching extra people in their photographs.
Speaker 1: Also whispers and coldspots of ghost shit, you know, like
Speaker 1: all the ghost stuff. Okay, so what is this one
Speaker 1: saying at Miss Hattie's place in Belton, Texas? Okay, it's
Speaker 1: also a whisper kind of sounds like the person from
Speaker 1: the first one. I don't hear anything. It's like, what
Speaker 1: are the options? Did they think it was A that
Speaker 1: cat hates me? B I had to sleep, C you
Speaker 1: can't see, or D you can't Sorry, queen.
Speaker 2: I had to sleep. You can't sleep. We're the sleep one.
Speaker 1: I had to sleep. They believe it is you can't see.
Speaker 2: It's honestly creeping me the fuck out.
Speaker 1: I know, isn't it weird? Especially just the thought of, like,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're listening back to your recording
Speaker 1: and you like hear that I would move.
Speaker 2: I just like, you know, I'm here, I'm being fun.
Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe I want to see a ghost, and
Speaker 2: then I hear one little snippet of that and I go,
Speaker 2: I don't want that in my life.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel all the time.
Speaker 2: You get it the fuck away from me, shivers up
Speaker 2: and down. I don't want it.
Speaker 1: Because I just this YouTube channel where I go stay
Speaker 1: in haunted hotel rooms by myself. It's so funny there.
Speaker 1: I pick up my out bets, I think about what
Speaker 1: kind of snacks I'm gonna bring with me. Then the
Speaker 1: second I get in that room, I'm like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck am I doing? I don't want to be here.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear nothing. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see nothing. But like I do, you know, it's like
Speaker 1: I want it, but like I don't. Like this is
Speaker 1: this is where I believe in AI. If I can
Speaker 1: make a fake version of me that can go do
Speaker 1: that kind of a thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the ghosts so they don't want to fuck
Speaker 2: with AI.
Speaker 1: They don't care. They could tell.
Speaker 2: I forgot who the actor was, but they were doing
Speaker 2: press for something and he was saying that while he
Speaker 2: was working somewhere, they put him in this hotel that
Speaker 2: was haunted, and he saw the dead girl at the
Speaker 2: foot of his bed and he ran down to the
Speaker 2: lobby and they go, oh, yeah, she died in there,
Speaker 2: so that's what you expect. And he's like, fuck that
Speaker 2: checked out, went to a different hotel that sucked, and
Speaker 2: he came back to the haunted one.
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, I gotta go back here. It was
Speaker 1: just better.
Speaker 2: It was just a nice hotel, and he didn't want
Speaker 2: to rough it, so he came back to the haunted one.
Speaker 1: I had a scenario like that where I was filming
Speaker 1: in a haunted place and I was trying my darnedest
Speaker 1: to find another hotel that wasn't haunted, and every single
Speaker 1: place that I looked up, because it was just in
Speaker 1: a small town, every single place that I looked up,
Speaker 1: I typed in the name of the hotel and then
Speaker 1: haunted after and every place was like, this place is
Speaker 1: so hot, Like the whole town was haunted. Wow. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, I, yes, I get this one. At least
Speaker 1: I won't have to move my bags and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was awful. I hate it, but I'm so happy
Speaker 1: you're here. I love you. I love you.
Speaker 2: This was great. Yeah, I had fun.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Where are you going?
Speaker 2: Where?
Speaker 1: What do you want people to know?
Speaker 2: Please watch my special on Netflix, Yes Night Owl yea
Speaker 2: an hour of laughs taped in New York. I have
Speaker 2: a podcast on this network called That's Messed Up, an
Speaker 2: SVU podcast. So if you're into SVU true crime or
Speaker 2: the art of acting, because.
Speaker 1: With Kara Klank, Yes, who's been on this pod twice
Speaker 1: one time with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did we do murders when we were here?
Speaker 1: No, we talked about the Pasca goula Ufo, yes, which
Speaker 1: is the hot guy and his friend that encountered a ghost.
Speaker 1: Sorry a ufo.
Speaker 2: Yes, I loved that. And then and then that's it,
Speaker 2: and I'm on the road. I'm really out and about all.
Speaker 1: Over the place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna be in Australia and New Zealand and July.
Speaker 2: So I'm going cross continental.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I want to do that and find
Speaker 1: someone to marry.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the goal. I'm also scared they're not going
Speaker 2: to let me back in. I don't know what's going
Speaker 2: to happen.
Speaker 1: I know uh.
Speaker 2: Anyway, but I have my naturalization certificate. We'll see, We'll
Speaker 2: see what happens.
Speaker 1: Just hope for the best.
Speaker 2: It says born in Ukraine on my passport. You know
Speaker 2: they're going to send me to Panama, Like I'm never
Speaker 2: coming back.
Speaker 1: Do you watch Natalia Grace?
Speaker 2: Not yet, I have to. I hear so much about
Speaker 2: it and she's getting spit. There's spin offs like people
Speaker 2: love this little bitch.
Speaker 1: I feel like not enough.
Speaker 2: But is it like the Impost, like she lied, he lied,
Speaker 2: someone's lying, someone's abusive. Is she old? Is she young?
Speaker 2: Like I can't wait?
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think it's by the end of it,
Speaker 1: you kind of are like, okay, this is the situation.
Speaker 1: But basically, yes, the story went that she was adopted
Speaker 1: from Ukraine and she was Oh, she's really an older
Speaker 1: woman pretending to be a little girl. That's what the
Speaker 1: people that adopted her said, because she had a bush
Speaker 1: and they they talk a lot about her bush. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of talk about in Italian crazy this book.
Speaker 1: But then as you watch it more, you realize, Okay,
Speaker 1: these people were nuts.
Speaker 2: And she was just a kid.
Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin I set.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of everything. Okay, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: It is kind of a little bit of everything, sort
Speaker 1: of because it's unclear. The records are hard to you know,
Speaker 1: but I think they I think it's solved at this point.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I gotta watch it. Because you've seen the impostor.
Speaker 1: That documentary from years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was interesting that there's another real life case
Speaker 2: of like this little liar. But I like it. I
Speaker 2: like it, But nothing is scarier. I mean, so many
Speaker 2: things are scary, but the idea of like you're pretending
Speaker 2: to be someone and you know that they know it's
Speaker 2: not you, but they have to pretend because they killed
Speaker 2: the person, like.
Speaker 1: Hilary, Oh fascinating.
Speaker 2: That was the impostor where it's like he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm going to pretend to be this missing boy and
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he realizes like, oh, they
Speaker 2: know I'm not him, but they murdered his ass, so
Speaker 2: I need to get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh that's good. But any any type of thing
Speaker 2: of trapter who am I with?
Speaker 1: Yesterday?
Speaker 2: My Uber driver gave me a cough drop and I
Speaker 2: just put it right in my mouth and then I
Speaker 2: went and then he missed an exit and I went,
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's it.
Speaker 1: But it was fine, this is it, this is it, Okay.
Speaker 2: I just bonded and he wanted to practice English and
Speaker 2: we had a good time.
Speaker 1: That's when you tell people I will haunt you, and
Speaker 1: I have a resistant strain of haunting. No amount of
Speaker 1: anything will keep me away. You can try it with
Speaker 1: the crystals, It's not gonna happen. You can try it
Speaker 1: with a priest a shaman. Nope, I'll lap in their
Speaker 1: faces anyway. That's about it from me and you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're done. Come see me watch my shit please?
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely a bust and the biz.
Speaker 2: You said you're my manager.
Speaker 1: You gotta hire Lisa, Lisa, I always see you. When
Speaker 1: you say it quick, it can come out. Lisa.
Speaker 2: Yeah. One time I was brought up on stage as Leslie.
Speaker 2: You know, people really have a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: All right, Leslie. Ah, thank you Liza Trigger. She's just
Speaker 1: so funny. She could just talk about anything. I love
Speaker 1: her so much. Hey, I love you. I love you all,
Speaker 1: both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you
Speaker 1: to haunt me, don't haunt me came back. This has
Speaker 1: been an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal
Speaker 1: experience on the podcast. I read stories out loud and
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll even call you, so email me at ghosted
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Speaker 1: is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming
Speaker 1: Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed by
Speaker 1: the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying
Speaker 1: Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by the spine chilling
Speaker 1: Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography
Speaker 1: by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the chilling
Speaker 1: Karen Kilgariff, the spooky Georgia hart Stark, and the frightening Danielle.
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