1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: with her radio. We're moving and grooving. We're getting closer 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: closer to the next season of The Bachelor. Rumors are 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: swirling around Peter's time, but there's also some hot topics 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: in Bachelor Nation. But before we get there, Ashley and 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: I are back in studio together, and actually, let me 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: tell you, it's good to be back. It is going 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: to be back. It feels like it's actually been forever 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: since we've been in a studio together. I guess it's 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: been since the iHeart Festival. Um, how was your trip 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: to Honduras. Yeah, so one of the reasons that we 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: were gone, that we were apart was because I was 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: in Honduras and then you had done some traveling with 14 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: Jared kind of post wedding, and so there has been 15 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: a lot going on. I got back last week from 16 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: Honduras and it was awesome. Um, it was a really 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: incredible trip. Uh. The first week that I was down there, 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: I led a trip of thirty people with Humani Hope 19 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: United and Jessica, my girlfriend and her mom were able 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: to come and that was her mom's first trip, Jessica second, 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: and my parents through there as well. And so we 22 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: went down there and I promised the group that I 23 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: give a shout out on Almost Famous podcast because I 24 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: bet I'm not kidding this. Uh. Of the people that 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: went on that trip are almost Famous fans. So one 26 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: of our one of our mutual friends that used to 27 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: work on the show, one of her co workers, uh, 28 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: was down there with us named Chili. And then, um, 29 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: there's just I mean literally everybody there was an almost 30 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: famous fan and everybody was super cool about it. They 31 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: would randomly kind of come up and be like, Hey, 32 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm a fan. Is that weird? Like that's amazing, and 33 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: they would say they heard through about Humane and Hope 34 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: United through the podcast, which kind of reinforced like that 35 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: this is a good thing too because it's bringing people 36 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: to a whole new area of the world. Uh. And 37 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: then I stayed down there for a week. When to Rhatan, Honduras, 38 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: which is one of the craziest places. It's amazing, it's beautiful, 39 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: it's it's a Caribbean island right off the coast that's 40 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: kind of untouched. My parents and I went and did that, 41 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: and then I came back and we had a board trip. Um. 42 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: So I was down there for almost a whole month. Actually, 43 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: I've got to tell you this, and this is gonna 44 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: sound like an ad and it's not. Okay, what did 45 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: you know? Okay, this could be me being crazy, but 46 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: I need to talk to our listeners and you about 47 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: some something adulting. I really have worked hard to be 48 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: a decent adult. Like at a young age, I was 49 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: trying to prep myself to be a decent adult. I 50 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: found out something recently on my trip to Honduras that's 51 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: really crazy. First off, so I bring and in Easton 52 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 1: will love this. I bring my Capital and Venture Card 53 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: with me to Honduras. You can pay for you know, 54 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: you can pay for things when you're Honduras. It's easier, 55 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: you know. It does all that stuff for me. But 56 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: when I get there, I come back home right and 57 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm getting ready to travel again. I'm actually we're in 58 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: l A right now, and I find out that the 59 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: points this is, this really doesn't like an addict. It's 60 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: not the points that you can use on a credit card. 61 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: It's an incredible process. Like I don't know if if 62 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: you've had this experience yet, and if you haven't, I 63 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: recommend you do it. But all of a sudden, for you, 64 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: Eastern's holding up his capital and card. Now all of 65 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: a sudden you hold like all of a sudden, you 66 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: get onto your like app and you swipe and then 67 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: all of these like new gifts come to you. For 68 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: years and years of purchasing things and you had no 69 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: idea they were there. I didn't have any idea they're there. 70 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: I had to have a friend walked through this with 71 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: me on the plane. But if you haven't had this yet, 72 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: go find out how you can redeem your point. You 73 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: have to show me on have the apply an ad 74 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 1: once again, it's the most organic ad ever if we 75 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: if it was okay, I will watch out for that. 76 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: I do have these special Amazon points that I get 77 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: from my American Express card, so that means like every 78 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: month my Amazon account gets like a hundred dollars filled in, 79 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: So every basically I never pay for anything on Amazon 80 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: because I always use my hundred dollars. So it's like 81 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: I used spent a hundred dollars a month on Amazon. 82 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: This is one of the like is it was me actually? 83 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: Or listeners, go and redeem your credit card points. But 84 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: this is like one of the coolest things about being 85 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: an adult, Like when you get on there and you 86 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: have a hundred dollars free for Amazon. When I get 87 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: on there and all of a sudden, I have like 88 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: free hotel stays because of my time. It like brings 89 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: a lot of joy. Yeah, it's a wild thing. I 90 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: don't know. I had to share because I learned this 91 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: on my trips from Ndara is coming home and I 92 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: was sitting there and I was like, I bet our 93 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: almost famous fans would relate with this, And I thought 94 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: we could talk it out as adults to say, is 95 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: this does this bring you as much joy as it 96 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: brings me? Yeah? You know you speaking about adulthood and 97 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: like the greatest parts of adulthood. I could like get 98 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: really deep right now for a minute if you want 99 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: to talk about like being an adult and like whether 100 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: it's more fun being a kid or whether it's more 101 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: fun being adult. In the nostalgia of it all, nostalgia 102 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: is like a really big part of my life. Like 103 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: I love nostalgia so much and things that you know, 104 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: just um, like zoom it to my face. That does 105 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: that make any sense? You guys? When I get over 106 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: flooded with nostalgia, I love it. But also sometimes you're 107 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: like do I want to go back to that or 108 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: do I look so fondly back at it? Because like 109 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: I went through it and it was great, but if 110 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: I was experiencing it now, it wouldn't be as great. 111 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying this because I want to Jonas brother concerts 112 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: this weekend. And when you're there, you get like, wait, 113 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: I get waved with nostalgia and um, just memories, these 114 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: amazing memories that I had. And a lot of the 115 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: times like we'd be thinking like, oh, this isn't going well, 116 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: or like this, like this guy doesn't like me, you know, 117 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: back in like when I was nineteen or twenty. But 118 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: there's something fun about like the beautiful pain Does that 119 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: sound weird? The beautiful pain of what you have to clear, 120 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: Like well, I'm talking about like heartbreak right now specifically, 121 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: or like try for you, Yeah, like just in general, 122 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: do you feel like fun? There's a line in a 123 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: Jonas song and it really just says it better than 124 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: I could say it. It's um, the days that we 125 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: thought were the worst and seemed to glow now the 126 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: days that were the worst seemed to glow now. You 127 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: ever looked back on like your early adolescence, your twenties, 128 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: your early twenties, and you're like, oh man, I thought 129 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: that was a really street day. But now when I 130 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: look back on it, it was like kind of great, 131 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: I really do. Okay, you get it, and this is 132 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: very weird. Like so here here's my theory and so 133 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: each one of these like things like through life. So, um, 134 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: let's pause here for a second, take a break. Um, 135 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: we'll come back. I want to continue this conversation, but 136 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: after the break h action, I'm gonna break down some 137 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: things about adulting. And then later on the podcast we're 138 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: gonna have some amazing topics to talk about. We have 139 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: hot news with John Paul Jones, moving to l A. 140 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: We have Taylor Nolan single again. Vanessa Grimaldi is just 141 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: saying that Nick Vile was not supposed to propose, and 142 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: Colton and Rachel drama and much much more. Um, let's 143 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: take a break, comeback, and Ash and I would talk 144 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: about adulting forever and listening. This is what I like 145 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: about native products, specifically native deodorant. It is formulated without 146 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: aluminum parabins and talk. It's filled with ingredients found in nature, 147 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: such as coconut oil, shade, butter, and tappy oca starch. 148 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: And here's the thing, Ashley, you know I can get 149 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: behind this absolutely no animal testing, very behind it. And 150 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: as you guys know, I'm very particular as to what 151 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: I put on my skin. The number one thing I 152 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: like to avoid is harsh chemicals. And making the switch 153 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: to a natural deodorant does not mean having to sacrifice 154 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: on odor and wetness protection. We tried it, and we 155 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: know these products work. And with eight thousand five star reviews, 156 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: that's another good sign. It feels like a trend these days. Actually, 157 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: Jessica has gotten really big into like these, like really 158 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: focusing on what she's putting on her skin. Yeah, I'm 159 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: starting to get a little bit more crunchy, hippie dippy. Yeah, 160 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: it's happening. And so I think it's important that we 161 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: continue to talk about these products. 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That means that Native offers 170 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 1: free returns and exchanges in the USA and free shipping. 171 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, Native is worth the try. 172 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,119 Speaker 1: So here's the thing. For your first purchase, visit Native 173 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: Deodorant dot com and use promo code famous during checkout. 174 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: Again off your first purchase, visit Native Deodorant dot com 175 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: and use promo code famous during checkout. Before the break, 176 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: we're talking about Adult Team. We talked from everything about 177 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: redeeming your credit card points to um Ashley kind of 178 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: nostalgia of looking back on past memories, and we want 179 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: to hear from you. Listeners. Email us at been an 180 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: Ashley I I hired Media dot com, or tweet us 181 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: in hashtag the Almost Famous podcast. Nostalgia is definitely a 182 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: real thing. It's happening more and more in my life 183 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: over the last year. I turned thirty, and I turned 184 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: thirty thinking it was gonna feel super old. It doesn't. 185 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: It feels actually really great, But it's a it's forcing 186 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: me to reflect on where my life's at, where my 187 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: family and friends are at and then all the memories 188 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: that I've made to this point. And here's my quick theory, 189 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: and there's a lot to this. We look back on 190 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: good and bad times with um with almost a smile 191 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 1: on our face. Some of them is super traumatizing, and 192 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: I know we don't, but you can heal from those things, 193 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: but they've made you the person they are today. And 194 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: I think for the people getting into their thirties, forties, fifties, sixties, seventies, 195 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: when you're in a healthy place, you're really proud of 196 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: the person that you are today because you've been through 197 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: some stuff. And I think looking back on that stuff 198 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: and seeing how you became victorious through it and not 199 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: the victim through it, actually brings an authentic joy to yourself. Yeah, 200 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: Like there are days back in like grad school or 201 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: before then, and I think when that was experiencing them, 202 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: I was like, well, this is just a day. It's 203 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: actually probably not the to day. But now I'll look 204 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: back on those days and I'll be like, no, that's 205 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: I was so great. That time was so much fun. 206 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: It's just weird, and you're you think about You're like, 207 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: would I want to go back there? If you're looking. 208 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: If you're looking at that memory so fondly, would you 209 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: want to go back and like be in that spot 210 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: right now? And no, but I do just like love 211 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: deep diving into memories. Came from East is totally nodding 212 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: along here. I kind of want to know, is why 213 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: do you think we get family videos and pictures are 214 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: so popular? Check this out. I dig into memories I 215 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: didn't even have originally. So one of my favorite things 216 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: to do is watch videos of commercials from the fifties 217 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: and say, like, I know them better than I know 218 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: commercials from now, and like I did not grow up 219 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: with those commercials. I just like they have this like 220 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: energy and them just because they're from the past. And 221 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: uh and like my dad showed them to me when 222 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: I was a kid, so there's a there's is a 223 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: connection there, but like, uh, I don't know, it's it's 224 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: it's so much fun to go back and and re 225 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: explore these things with a new land. I think. Anyway, 226 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: you're right here, So let's get personal for one second 227 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: from me and then let's move on to the hottest 228 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: topics and Bachelor Nation right now. But I want to 229 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: take this time. I always love the off season because 230 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: we were able to actually talk about ourselves for a 231 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: little bit and try to relate with the listeners and 232 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: have them respond to us. So please write in message us. 233 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: We want to hear from you. You know, one thing 234 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: that's been really sad for me and I want to 235 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: know if I'm alone in this is I've gotten older 236 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: and had more and more years of life still young 237 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: year out of my twenties, I've become more and more 238 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: numb to new experiences because there's less of them exactly well, 239 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: and also like for you, your first Jonas Brothers concert 240 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: is something you remember and you cried and you whatever 241 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: you did during that it was it was a moment 242 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: that overtook you to where you couldn't just be your 243 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: normal self like it overtook you. I don't have those 244 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: experiences very often anymore. There's very few experiences that I 245 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: have that that caused me to radically react and be 246 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: something like to celebrate like without control, or to laugh 247 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: and to sing without control, or to be sad without control. 248 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: As I've gotten older, I've gotten more and more kind 249 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: of moderate too. When you're experiencing something like you're a 250 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: little bit more in your head is yeah, well, and 251 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,479 Speaker 1: you can predict what's gonna happen, and you so anyways, 252 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: I think as we've gotten older, actually, for me, it's 253 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: been happening more and more. I was even in Honduras, 254 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: and Honduras was the place that broke my heart and 255 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: changed my world forever. It's caused me to to totally 256 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: redefine what I want to be and who I want 257 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: to be, and who who I want to be to others. 258 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: And on this trip I was telling my buddies. I 259 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: actually started bawling in a hotel room um with a 260 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: bunch of grown men, because I said, for the first 261 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: time on a trip, and I've gone down for fifteen years, 262 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm numb to some of these stories. Like I met 263 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: with a young woman whose house fell on and on 264 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: her kids, and whose father died the week after. He 265 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: built them a new house that was made of mud, 266 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: and he was so proud of it. And her husband 267 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: left her and ran back and disappear and took her 268 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: son to the States. And she's twenty two years old. 269 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there here in the story, and I 270 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: was almost numb to it because I've heard so many 271 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: stories similar to that, and it hurts me. I don't 272 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: want to become numb to those stories, and so I'm 273 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: working on that now. But yeah, as we've gotten older, 274 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: I've gotten more and more numb to those new emotions. 275 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: And I got one more thing to say before you 276 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: move on. This is like a little bit of a 277 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: transition from all those horrorful horrorful that was my word 278 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: for horrific and horrible. That's I think it's fantastic stories. 279 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: Is that Do you feel like that since you're in 280 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: a relationship now that you like seek comforts? So I 281 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: think like everybody like gains like relationship weight and then 282 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: like maybe they're like a little bit more little less 283 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: um outgoing because like you just kind of want to 284 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: be together and be cozy. Yeah, so you just like 285 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: do less and you just like kind of crave being cozy. Yeah. 286 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: The contentment piece of it's nice right now because I 287 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: know one day that won't always be the case. Why 288 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: do you think that? What do you mean it all? Kids? 289 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: Life up a bit, um, parents, aging shakes life up 290 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: a bit every day here. Yeah, so like that stuff 291 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: shakes life a bit where you and it's uncontrollable, and 292 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: so the little things, the little things that are hurting 293 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: you today, I think will build a resilience and a 294 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: character inside of you now that help you face those 295 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: things later. They will never be easy, but I think 296 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: you'll have the tools and the skills. It's it's actually 297 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: a beautiful thing how life brings you these these pains, 298 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: some big, some small, along the way of life to 299 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: help build up to where you are now all and 300 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: to help build up to the things that are going 301 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: to be ultra traumatic later. But that on that note, Um, yeah, 302 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: here's what we want to talk. I want to hear 303 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: from you all, actually wants to hear from you are 304 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: Please email us, please message us. As you get older 305 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: and as new experiences come in, have your feelings towards 306 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: them changed? And what do you think of when you 307 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: look back on these memories and nostalgia sets in? Speaking 308 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: of algia, hey, uh, let's make a new memory together. Actually, 309 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna be in San Francisco January eleven for the 310 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: Bachelor That was that was something else? Huh um, alright, 311 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: So we're doing the Almost Live tour actually and I 312 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: are heading to San Francisco a special guest, Derek paith 313 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: is what he told us how to say his name 314 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: rights there at paith now not peth Um. It's gonna 315 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: be an amazing evening. It's gonna be a blast. We're 316 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: gonna get weird, we're gonna talk about some wild stuff. Uh, 317 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a ton of time with you all. 318 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: We want to meet you all. We want to thank 319 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: you all for the time that you spent listening to 320 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: the almost famous podcast. So we're flying all the way. 321 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a big trip for us, uh to 322 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: San Francisco to spend the evening with you. We'll have 323 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: a blast. V I P packages available ticket master dot 324 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: com for tickets. We'll see you January eleven in San Francisco. Actually, 325 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: the hottest news right now in bachel Nation is before us. 326 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: But before we get there, let's take a quick break. 327 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: We'll get back to you with some crazy stuff. So 328 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: Colton and Rachel Lindsay it feels to me like a setup, 329 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: but actley for our listeners that don't quite know, there's 330 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: a massive feud going on. It feels like it's bubbled 331 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: up for a long time between Colton and Rachel Lindsay. 332 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: And then I want to share my theory on why 333 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: this is happening okay, so quick synopsis. A couple of 334 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: weeks ago, on Andy Cohen's Watch What Happens Live, Rachel 335 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: went on and she said that there was a riff 336 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: between she and Raven that could never be mended. And 337 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: then Colton saw this news post on like US Weekly 338 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: or E or something like that on Instagram, and he 339 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: wrote underneath it in the comments section, does Rachel like anyone? 340 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: He also went further and said, um, on time, Rachel 341 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: spoke poorly of me to Cassie and that was one 342 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: of that was that's his reasoning for not liking her. 343 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: And then Rachel got on Twitter and said that she'd 344 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: be happy to have Colton on her podcast to address 345 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: these issues. I know, I know, so let's see. I 346 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: do think that Colton is going to go on her podcast. 347 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: I don't understand. And then he responded, this is really juicy. 348 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: He responded by saying, I'll come on your podcast if 349 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: it's completely not produced and edited. Well two thoughts here, 350 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: I say they should do it live so we have 351 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: proof that it's not edited. Um, Rachel better be very 352 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: thankful for Colton right now because that podcast will be 353 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: really highly listened to. Yes, and if if one of 354 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: them doesn't want to do it on that podcast. We're 355 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: always here for them. We're really good at Yeah, we 356 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: really enjoy sitting at those moments. Um, my second thought 357 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: is maybe it's the critic in me. I don't know 358 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: really what's side have fallen. I don't fully understand the 359 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: whole scenario. I know they have been back and forth, 360 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: and I know there's arguments on others. He said, she 361 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: said here. I have a theory and I tweeted it 362 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: that Colton Underwood will be the host with Rachel Lindsay 363 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: very soon because they've had feuds in the past. They 364 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: have been legitimately upset with each other. They're not faking it. 365 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: But this is the first time Colton showed irritation towards 366 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: Rachel publicly. I can't say that for certain I don't 367 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't even know this was happening 368 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: until one night. We we have that text thread that 369 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: like updates on stuff happening in Batch Nation. I see, 370 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: I said, I don't know what's going on here, but 371 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: it's something, and it's something pretty big. It's two leads 372 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: going at each other. But Ashley, I would put money 373 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: that this could be that's a terrible bet. Could be 374 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: a setup for Colton to co host this podcast from 375 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: the in the future with Rachel, and this is a 376 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: way to get some traction around it. So Ali fan 377 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: Tawski is no longer co hosting that podcast with Rachel? 378 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: Is that official? Yes? Okay, I didn't know. I I 379 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: do believe that it was announced that she's no longer 380 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: going to be there because she has a lot of 381 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: other things going on. She's a busy person. She's on 382 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: the Home and Family Network and all that stuff. So, um, 383 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, are we allowed to say who runs 384 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: that podcast? Well, it's definitely it's a Wonder Brother podcast. 385 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: It's a Wonder Brother podcast, you guys. It's um completely 386 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: run by basically the Bachelor producers themselves. And and again 387 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: this is coming from a place of I have no clue. 388 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: This is my theory that this would be a I 389 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: think they've I don't think Colton and Rachel have gotten 390 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: along very well. I think this is real, But I 391 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: also think there is a bigger story maybe being played 392 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: out here that Rachel and Colton might not even realize 393 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: they're participating it. So how beautiful is this? Right? That 394 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 1: podcast the pool looking over or going Okay, they're obviously combative, 395 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: they're they're both leads. We're going to get them on 396 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: this in the same room, and you and I both 397 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: know this. It's a lot easier to forgive somebody once 398 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: you're in the same room as them than it is 399 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: through social media. So then they're the hope is that 400 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: they're probably gonna forgive each other. They're gonna work out 401 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: there and their differences, and I bet there's this hope 402 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: maybe that it works out so well they said, well, 403 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: how about you guys just host this together from here on. 404 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: But this hope didn't come about until they started seeing 405 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: this interaction. Okay, that's what I'm that's my theory. I've 406 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: known nothing to back this with. Okay, this is Ben's theory, guys. Um, 407 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: my theory is that it's going to be hard to 408 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: get Colton to go on that podcast because what's his incentive? 409 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: Good point, because it's not that they're going to pay him. 410 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: You know, why, why why would he do this? Actually, 411 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: let's talk through that. I don't think that there makes 412 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: any sense to unless he really wants to air, like, 413 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: unless he has a specific reasoning and a real story 414 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: that he can kind of back up with multiple people 415 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: like Cassie who are willing to come on and like say, 416 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: this is what Rachel said and this is why he 417 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: was so hurt by her. I feel like it's going 418 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: to have to have a moderator because if not, it's 419 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: just going to be a back and forth on you 420 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: said this, you said this, I thought you said this, 421 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: I've heard you said this. They need to have a 422 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: moderator there. This is in our podcast to produce those 423 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: so they do what the what they want. We'll talk 424 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: about it though, so you can listen to us afterwards. 425 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: Rachel definitely has a good debating skills. She can confront someone. 426 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: She's a lawyer. I don't see why Colton would do it. 427 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense to me why you would. But 428 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: it's all circular. This kind of popped up. First off, 429 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: Andy Cohen continues just to be a legend. I don't 430 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: know how that guy continues to get this stuff out. 431 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: But every time his names attached to something, and it 432 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: has been for years, So good on you, Andy, Uh 433 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: the raven Rachel few do we have any idea of 434 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: where this comes from? Wait? Isn't this bizarre that it's 435 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: now become the Rachel and Coulton feud, and that Raven 436 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: has a man appearance in this fight at all, smart 437 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: part passive object. I mean, I would like to say 438 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: that we should have her on, but I'm almost sure 439 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: she won't reveal what went on. No, I mean she's gonna, 440 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: she's she's moving on. Um, she hasn't coming in either way. 441 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: We don't really know what happened, right. We have no 442 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: idea where this feud comes from. We just know that 443 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: they don't get along anymore, and so Raven is just 444 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: kind of letting this play out. Why why why would 445 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: Raven come on and talk about something to bring back 446 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: up in air dirty laundry that now has been passed 447 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: onto Colton. It's a wild scenario. I got out of 448 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: it and she got out of it. We should be 449 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: watching it, will continue talking about it. What we know now, though, 450 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: is that Colton has said he is going to come 451 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: on the podcast within the next two weeks. I just 452 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: got message. Oh damn. So next topic, Tyler Cameron talks 453 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: about dating Hannah Brown again after splitting from g G. 454 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: What do we mean? Talks about dating her again like 455 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: there's a possibility he'd go out with her again. Yeah, 456 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: he's he's reminiscing on what they did have, So he's 457 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: taking nostalgia. Tyler has got some nostalgia. Um, obviously getting 458 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: the questions of would you ever again? Those kind of things. Well, 459 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: I don't think Hannah would entertain it. I mean, Hannah's 460 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: Hanna's blown up right now. Yeah, she's she is writing 461 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: this Dance with the Stars wave. What is she placed 462 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: right now? What? What week are we in? Like? How 463 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: are we eliminated at least half? Oh, she's she's pretty 464 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: far along. Can we get can we an update from 465 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: the room on where Hannah Brown is at and Dance 466 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: with the Stars? So she is, she's at the peak. 467 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: I mean, she's a fan favorite. She's received the most 468 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: points multiple weeks now. Her dancing skills are incredible. Now 469 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to Tyler, he's obviously gonna get questions 470 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: about Hannah like that just is gonna happen. He's gonna 471 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: get questions about Gig for the rest of his life 472 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: and Hannah for the rest of his life. That poor 473 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: guy will never get rid of it. But my main 474 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: question for him that I wouldn't want to ask is 475 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: does he regret not pursuing things further with Hannah now 476 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: and moving on to Gig because if you remember right, 477 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: that week was a big week for him, and I 478 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: really think he thought he could teeter totter between them. 479 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: I don't think he would have gone out with Hannah 480 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 1: if he knew he was already talking to Gig and 481 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: wanted to fully pursue that. I think he thought that 482 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: he was going to be able to date around It's like, no, 483 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: now that you're a public figure, and especially involved with 484 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: two other public figures, you can't do that. It's in 485 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: the bachelor world. It's not easy too to date because 486 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: it is a hot topic. You've gone on a show 487 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: that's celebrated and loved over dating, so people have a 488 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: vetted interest, invested interest in who you're dating and why 489 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: you're dating him. So for Tyler, I think that's just 490 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: one of those like not mistakes. Who knows how he 491 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: looks at it. It's one of those decisions he made 492 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: back in the day, not knowing the repercussions of that. 493 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: Everybody would know who he's dating very soon. Um, So 494 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: we have word Hannah is in the top of Dance 495 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: with the Stars, which is a huge accomplishment. I mean, 496 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: I think Bachelor people typically make it to like top six, 497 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: so she has a few more weeks left to really 498 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: kind of push the envelope. I have a feeling that 499 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: Hannah will be the first Bachelor contestant to well we 500 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: actually have had one. Yeah, Ryecroft, I bet you. I 501 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: bet Hannah has a shadow winning this year. I bet 502 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: you she's top three in the least. Um. Let's go 503 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: back to what Tyler said about the future between he 504 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: and Hannah. He has definitely got a great pr person. 505 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: But I will say even when he was on our podcast, 506 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: he's able to speak um very he words his stuff 507 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: very well. His quote is, we're friends, and I think 508 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: she's an incredible girl, and I have so much love 509 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: for her and I want her to be successful and 510 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: have the best. I don't know about the future. I'm 511 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: just trying to worry about today and tomorrow. You know, 512 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: he gives us nothing. It gives us nothing, gives us 513 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: nothing smart, you know, I mean good for him. I 514 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: mean I think I think that Tyler is going to 515 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: get a lot of attention over him here in the 516 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: next few weeks months as he does continue to date 517 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: and Tyler has you know, blown up because of his 518 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 1: relationship with Gigi and Hannah. Afterwards, it will be interesting 519 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: to see how he navigates it. But I I mean 520 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: from his time here on the podcast, and actually I 521 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: know you feel the same way. We're hoping that Tyler 522 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: does really well everything he wants after this, but we 523 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: would love to have some clarity on We would love 524 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: on this podcast have some cleared and who he's dating 525 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: and why he's dating them, But I don't know if 526 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna get it. But speaking of dating, Mike Johnson 527 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: who came on the In Depth podcast a few weeks 528 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: ago and started talking about Demmi Levado, it just came 529 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: out now that him and Dimmi a little longer dating. 530 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: Mike has gotten a lot of attention recently for his 531 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: time on Sarah Strayhan and uh because he asked Keky 532 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: out here's my question to you to start this thing. 533 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: Uh Um. A lot of opinions being thrown around is 534 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: was it inappropriate for Mike to ask Keki out in 535 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: her within her workplace? So Mike is saying that he 536 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: um didn't mean this is all misconstrued and that he 537 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: wasn't meaning to give I wasn't asking her out, he 538 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: was giving her a hypothetical, so I have to be honest. 539 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: I haven't watched the interview, but apparently he said something 540 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: along the lines of, Kiki, if I were to ask 541 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: you out, would you and like then he was going 542 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: to create a situation. But then I think Michael got 543 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: really excited and Sarah they just started bipping and gossiping, 544 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it turns into way to say, 545 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: you're about it, You're about to ask how Kiki on TV? 546 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: And it was all misconstrued. So it got way, It 547 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: got out of hand really quick, and there was no 548 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: like controlling it or navigating it. At that point. It 549 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: was just a whole new ball game and everybody was 550 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: in a whole new world. And Mike was saying, Hey, 551 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: I was just hypothetical you. Here's the other thing is 552 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: Mike is not a professional interviewer. Oh so I was 553 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: just gonna say. What I found very interesting reading up 554 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 1: on this drama was that somebody who is in PR 555 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: says that you should never in a live TV interview 556 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: give a hypothetical situation because people can cut you off 557 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: and they can sew often. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, 558 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: you start responding, you're getting comfortable in these interviews. You 559 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: say something that you think is gonna come off is funny, 560 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it's not, And then there's 561 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: no like pulling it back. And so I get that 562 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: those things happen. I can't even call it necessarily a 563 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: mistake unless he And this is where the only time 564 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: I'd say would be a mistake is if he didn't 565 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: mean it at all, Like if he wasn't at all 566 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: interested in even thinking about asking keeking out, then it's 567 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: not a fair question. But if he was a little bit, 568 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: then hey, like you did it. It maybe came off weird. 569 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: It should have been said the way it was. The 570 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: whole thing was put in a weird situation. We all 571 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: mess up, move on. But I haven't heard to this 572 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: point if he if he wanted to go on a 573 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: date with Kicking or not. But the thing is, is 574 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: this holies up to this point with Mike is on 575 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: our podcast he talked pretty openly about his relationship with 576 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: Demmi Levado and now he Demi Lvado and Mike are 577 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: no longer dating, and there's articles that come out they said, hey, 578 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: he said these things on almost famous podcast. Demi got 579 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: upset over it. Um, you know, they're not necessarily blaming 580 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: our podcast. We're saying it was set on there. I wonder, Ashley, 581 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: do you feel like this podcast broke Dimmi and Mike up. 582 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: He would have ended up saying it somewhere else, and 583 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: then in another interview he would have been as revealing. 584 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: And we should also mention it was the whole Good 585 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: Morning America three as they call it, became such a 586 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: big deal that actually, on the following day's episode, Michael 587 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: and Sarah asked Keky if she was going to accept 588 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: Mike's date request, and she had to like be like, no, 589 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm trying not to date people, um so publicly. Yeah. So, 590 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: I mean Mike isn't somebody I think he said on 591 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: our podcast that is uh that holds his words inside 592 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: of him. He's he's very vocal, he's an uh. He 593 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: out processes things, uh through his language and through talking 594 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: to people. And so I do think he would have 595 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: said something about his relationship with Demmy. He was gonna 596 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: be asked about it all the time somewhere else, and 597 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: he didn't say anything too crazy. He said, you know, 598 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: she's a good kisser, and so he admitted that they 599 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: had kissed at some point and if she didn't like that, 600 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: then that was on them and where their relationship stood. 601 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: And then, you know, I get that that might have 602 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: hurt her because she felt like he was over sharing. 603 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: But Dimmy and Mike are no longer together, and so 604 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: now we have Tyler, who was getting a lot of 605 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: press because of who he was dating, and Mike, who 606 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: was getting a lot of pressed because he was who 607 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: he was dating, no longer dating these people, and I'm 608 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: wondering what's next for these guys because there's been a 609 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: ton of I mean, I never received this attention after 610 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: my time on The Bachelor at for dating. They have 611 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: gotten a lot of attention for dating. Is this the 612 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: new norm for Bachelor contestants or is this just because 613 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: of them dating celebrities? I do think that because on 614 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: the Bachelor, But you become a public figure so fast, 615 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: and it's so fun and it's so centered about your 616 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: love life that you get you feel like it's normal 617 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: to like discuss it so much. But if you do 618 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: jump into a relationship with another high profile person, especially 619 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: in this case, way higher profile than the Bachelor, um 620 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: I think because they slowly become famous, and because they 621 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 1: keep their personal life for the most part, as private 622 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: as they can. I think that if Bachelor contestants are 623 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: going to continue to date celebrities, they're going to have 624 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: to get more on their level. I mean, of course, 625 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: Tyler was pretty darn private about the gig thing, but 626 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: he did. Yeah, he was, Yeah, he was. I think 627 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a whole new thing to navigate. I mean, 628 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: I I know Bachelor contestants have dated celebrities in the past, 629 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: but there is a respect I think to that that 630 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: we all have to realize is when you date somebody 631 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: in the public eye, you have to respect that they're 632 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: in the public eye. Um, and you have to be 633 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: cautious of how much you share. And I think that's 634 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: just a good lesson for anybody in the Bachelor world 635 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: to come that when they're coming off the show, to 636 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: know that that is gonna be something that happens to everybody. 637 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna meet people that you grew up loving. You're 638 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: gonna be have the opportunity to talk to them, maybe 639 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: make a romantic connection with him, maybe a friendship connection, 640 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: and you have to keep you have to understand that 641 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: by saying yes to the Bachelor Bachelorette, you're throwing yourself 642 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: in a whole new world that could spit you out 643 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: on the other side, with the public eye viewing you 644 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: um at a close level. For every move you make, 645 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: you're becoming, You're coming into a microscope. And that's where 646 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: comments like this kind of shake me. And we're moving 647 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: into a story. I'm we're moving into a story now 648 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: with from Vanessa Grimaldi, who was engaged to Nick File 649 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: at one point after Nick's season, and she comes out 650 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: recently and says she didn't want to get engaged to 651 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: Nick on This Bachelor's Season twenty one. And I'm saying 652 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: this because I think this was almost it walks right 653 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: up in the line of an overshare, mostly because it 654 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: feels like something that didn't need to be said now. Yeah, 655 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: why is she bringing that up now? And also then 656 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: the second question that is is she saying it because 657 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: some of the stuff that was written about in us 658 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: UH magazine article pretty much says that Nick kind of 659 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: like sold her on the idea of getting engaged. He said, hey, yeah, 660 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: he said something. Yes, he said some along the lines 661 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: of it's gonna show a legitimacy to our relationship. If 662 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: we get engaged, that the scrutiny from us getting engaged 663 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: will be a lot less than if we just come 664 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: out of this boyfriend and girlfriend, And so I think 665 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: we should get engaged. There's also a comment made in 666 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: the article that says that Vanessa believes that they would 667 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: have been broken up a lot quicker if they weren't engaged. So, 668 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: with all this being known, and all this being said, 669 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: and all this now being out in the open, which 670 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: I do feel like I shouldn't even know half this stuff, 671 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: was it right? When when you get on The Bachelor 672 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: Ashley or The Bachelor at and you're in the final 673 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: few there, do you think it is right to get 674 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: engaged if you aren't for certain? Similar to how Cassie 675 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: and Colton walked off the show? Or should you just 676 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: go off the show? Boyfriend girlfriend? I know there's a 677 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: lot of pressure because if you don't become engaged at 678 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: the end of it, it just as not as exciting 679 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: for the audience, Like just we have a show and 680 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: at the end of it somebody becomes boyfriend and girlfriend. 681 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: If it becomes too much of a trend, too much 682 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: of the norm, I can see this show not being 683 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: as exciting, So I understand the reasoning to get engaged 684 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: from the excitement factor. But I think that, like, if 685 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: if I were there at the end of the two 686 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: months together, I would probably prefer not to get engaged. Really, 687 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: that's that's surprising from you, actually, that you'd prefer not 688 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: to get engaged. Is that a recent I think no. 689 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: I think it's because, like Jared and I had four 690 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: years together before we got married, and I can't imagine 691 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: getting engaged and then breaking it off. But now I'm 692 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: talking to you, he has done that. So would you 693 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: want that choice to become boyfriend and girlfriend and not 694 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: proposed you you wanted to propose. That's a great question. Um, 695 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: it is interesting. Jessica and I were talking about this 696 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: weekend we're together. We're talking a lot about like kind 697 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: of you know, what the Bachelor has brought me and 698 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: if you know, and how it's affected my life with 699 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: her even and how beautiful of a thing the Bachelor 700 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: has been for me, because it really has allowed me 701 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: new opportunities like sitting down and talking to you and um, 702 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: being able to meet a whole new spectrum of people 703 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: and making a career out of coffee now when that 704 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: would have never been the case without the Bachelor. Like 705 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: I believe that I know that, and I don't think Jessica. 706 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: I don't think I find Jessica and I don't think 707 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: she responds to my Instagram message unless I she wouldn't 708 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: know going into it that I wasn't going to be 709 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: a total creepster, you know, Like there was is a 710 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: lot that The Bachelor has brought me that is been 711 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: has been good, and so she was asking me and 712 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: we had a pretty honest conversation about for the really 713 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: the first time, about like what has this whole thing been? 714 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: And do I regret any of it? And do I 715 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: look back on any of it and say I wish 716 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: I would have done it different? And I don't. I mean, 717 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: I met some incredible women all my time during the Bachelor, 718 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: and now I know Jessica and I know that she 719 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: is somebody that I love dearly and that it's just 720 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: an incredible partner to me. But I think I I 721 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: appreciate Jessica now because of my time on the Bachelor 722 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: and because I truly believe that I was walking off 723 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,479 Speaker 1: of that show with somebody I was going to spend 724 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: my life with and I think seeing just how honestly 725 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: Lord and I failed, and how it didn't navigate in 726 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: the correct direction, and how we didn't communicate well, and 727 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: how hard it was to make a relationship out of 728 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: out of it, even though I believed it was the 729 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: right thing. I think now looking at my relationship with 730 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: Jessica and seeing how good it is helps me now 731 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: be so confident in what that is. But you just 732 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: benified me. You just became a politician on me because 733 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: I ass if you would have rather just left, I 734 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 1: had the less pressure to just leave that as boyfriend 735 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: and girlfriend. Oh, I definitely no. Yeah, I didn't mean 736 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 1: not to answer that, because I know that you're thankful 737 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: for your bachelor problems, and I am so thankful for 738 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: my bachelor process, even though I think it worked better 739 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: for me, and like the long run, has it worked 740 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: for you, Like everything happened for a reason. I think 741 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: it is would have been a lot easier to walk 742 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: off of it. Boyfriend girlfriend. I think that you fight 743 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: more for it, you fight more for it. I think 744 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: there is a legitimacy to getting down and saying this 745 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: whole thing has brought me to you, and I'm making 746 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: that commitment to you because I believe in who you 747 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: are as a person and I want to try to 748 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: make this work. Now it doesn't always work, and that's okay, 749 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: And I do think that for you've seen it for 750 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: four years now that you've been dating that you were 751 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 1: dating Jared, and you know, I've been in a relationship 752 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: for ten months and it feels like it's flown by. 753 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: Like there's a whole new level of respect and value 754 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: that I put on getting on on one knee. Um, 755 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: But I don't regret it, but I do think it 756 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: like when you look at the Colton and Cassie is 757 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 1: of the world. I honestly, and I don't know if 758 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: I've ever said this, I'm a little bit envious that 759 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 1: they've been able to walk off this show as boyfriend 760 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,240 Speaker 1: girlfriend without that pressure on them, Like they are able 761 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: to date and they just met each other on a 762 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 1: show and that isn't a bad thing and it's sense 763 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: good for them. But I'm envious that that that's the 764 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: pressure that they've had to feel, because there's a whole 765 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: new pressure when you get off the show and people 766 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: start talking about weddings, like the month after the show 767 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: airs or the day after the show airs. Now it's 768 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 1: when's the wedding? How's the wedding? And it's like, I 769 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: literally haven't spent a day at the grocery store with 770 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: this person yet. So for me, when I look at 771 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: this whole thing, there there's legitimacy to get down on 772 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: one knee, but there's also a simplicity and an ease 773 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: at which just coming off the show boyfriend girlfriend is 774 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: And I think, I don't think it's a cop out. 775 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: I just an envy is that it's that easy and 776 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: the pressure is that light on the people that do it. 777 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 1: Could you imagine, though, if Nick on his fourth season, 778 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: when he finally becomes the Bachelor, doesn't get engaged at 779 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: the end of it, that would be extremely anti climatic. 780 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: But here's the other part of this, And I don't 781 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: and and I don't know how. Yeah, I don't know 782 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 1: how Nick felt. And I imagine that he really meant 783 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 1: it when he did it. But when you get down 784 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: on one knee, you're making a commitment that is a 785 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: powerful and heavy commitment. You were making something that was good, 786 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: greatly going to affect the human stories of each of 787 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: you for the rest of your lives. And so at 788 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 1: some point, I hope on that last day, even even 789 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: if you're making a show and you're participating in a 790 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: show for the three months of the show, is are 791 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: filming or whatever it is, that at least in that 792 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: last moment you're able to take the show out of 793 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: it and say, this is for us, and no matter 794 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: the criticism, no matter the scrutiny, no matter what's happening here, 795 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: this is about our relationship and how much I mean 796 00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: for you. And even if I get criticized for this, 797 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: this is how I feel, and this is what I 798 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: know is best. And even if they're walking out of 799 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: this without being engaged, it's the best for both of us. 800 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: And I think that Nick also definitely thought he was 801 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: going to end up with Vanessa forever. I think he did, 802 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: But I also think that that was while in the 803 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: Bachelor bubble, and I'm I just feel like once they 804 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: got to know each other in real life, it probably 805 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: wasn't as easy as it was when I'm on the 806 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 1: show in particular, Get that, And I also want to 807 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: go back to what I said before. I think that 808 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: while I sit here outside the Bachelor bubble, I could 809 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: be like, oh, I'm really glad that I had four 810 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: years and I didn't get engaged after two months, and 811 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But when you're in the bubble, I 812 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: absolutely would have wanted to get engaged after two months, 813 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: just because it's like so highly romantic and if it works, 814 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: how beautiful of the story. When it works, you know 815 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: it's something to celebrate. Look at our Lauren. Hey, um, 816 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: we have two more hot topics to talk about. We 817 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: have some crazy crazy stuff emails to go through, and 818 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 1: then Ashley and I are gonna give you one last 819 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,760 Speaker 1: exciting and now before we in the podcast. But before 820 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: we do, let's take now one last break and talk 821 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: about policy Genius. Halloween is on the way, which means 822 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: it's time to break out the rubber spiders, fake cobwebs, 823 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,240 Speaker 1: and jack O lanterns. But if you've got a family, 824 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: you might be dealing with something a little scarier right now. 825 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: If I feel you shopping for life insurance, if the 826 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: idea of looking for life insurance and intimidates you, try 827 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: policy genius dot com. Policy Genius is the easy way 828 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: to shop for life insurance online. 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This October, take the scariness 838 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: out of buying life insurance with policy Genius. Go to 839 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: policy genius dot com, get quotes and apply in minutes. 840 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: You can do the whole thing on your phone right now. 841 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: Policy Genius the easy way to compare and buy life insurance. 842 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: My dad actually just told me, called me right before 843 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,240 Speaker 1: this and he said, I'm getting rid of the insurance 844 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: company that we've that he's used for twenty six years. 845 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: And he goes and now you have to pay for 846 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: your own car insurance. So I am officially in every 847 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: single way cut off. Now good for you. Look at 848 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: the way he's looking at me. He's like, your dad 849 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: still pays for no Jared's dad. I know Jared pays 850 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: for his own carsures. Jared's still on the family plan 851 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: of course the phone plan so now and I am 852 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: still on my family There's something sweet, Ashley about your 853 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: dad doing that because I know, seeing me being around 854 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: him more and more at your wedding, how much he 855 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: loves your sister and you, and like, I think it's 856 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: I would imagine tell me if I'm wrong that it's 857 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: almost like a thank you to him for him to 858 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: still be doing that, because it just shows that he's 859 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 1: still like a huge part of your life. And he's 860 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: probably saying now that it's like over and he sees 861 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: how happy you are, He's like, yeah, Jared, you take 862 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: care of this. Could be I mean he paid for 863 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: the car, you know, way back to do seven. That's 864 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: when I got my car, and it's still ticking along, 865 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: and so the next thing, before I know it, I'm 866 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: gonna be paying for a car bill and car masurance, 867 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 1: you know. Before we get into two more hot topics 868 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 1: and Batchel Nation. For all of you out there listening, 869 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: this is one of my favorite podcasts because I do 870 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: get to catch up with Ashley. I get to hear 871 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: her heart here who she is as a person, get 872 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: to get to know, uh kind of what's happening in 873 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: her life. But there's one thing that you might not 874 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: know about Ashley and I. Out of all of the 875 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 1: I Heart podcast hosts and maybe any host in the country, 876 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: and against popular um opinion, we do make more than 877 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: nineteen dollars in this past. I was gonna say, people 878 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: are gonna be like, oh my god, she is like 879 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: such a spoiled bratt one tad paste. Why did I 880 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: just offer that? Ash Come on, it's it's great and 881 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 1: it's good, and you're not the only one out there. 882 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: There's many others, but Ashley and I. I mean, my 883 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: car is a two in your cars what, so we 884 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: literally together definitely have the oldest two cars probably in 885 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: l A. I'm not playing Oh my gosh. I love 886 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: that you have that too. I'm obsessed with my car. 887 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: Her name is Idle because her original license plates at 888 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: heart IDOL for American Idol, so her name, you know, 889 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: it's stuck. And she's twelve years old now an Accura 890 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,959 Speaker 1: m d X, and I'm so attached to it. Speak 891 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: King of Nostalgia and Jonas Brother concerts and stuff. My 892 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: best friend Lizzie Um, she was like when this car 893 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: actually dies, we're gonna have to strip the seats because 894 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: we want to literally like twenty seven Jonas brother concerts 895 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: that car took us to just like up and down 896 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: the East Coast. She's like, so we have to strip 897 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 1: the other seats and make bracelets and stuff out of it, 898 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: like you braid them all up, because it's just those 899 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: seats and that car somewhere so so different. Really, I 900 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: mean so much does we need to keep sick? I 901 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: think that would be really sweet. I thought you're gonna say, 902 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: you got so excited I'm going to Jonas Brothers concerts 903 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 1: pants so many times that those seats would have like, yeah, 904 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: never mind, No, I mean, I'm not saying I haven't 905 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 1: peed my pants in those seats. I definitely have from 906 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: laughing so hard and probably on those trips. Speaking of nostalgia, Hey, uh, 907 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember Bachelor Lambiena from Jake 908 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: Pocus season. They had a really a memorable moment on 909 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 1: live television with Chris Harrison kind of mottering and it. 910 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,240 Speaker 1: She comes out this week and shows off the results 911 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 1: of her multiple plastic surgeries, and the quote that's used 912 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: in US magazine is she says, I'm skinny again again. Yeah, 913 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: so you know, plastic surgery has been something obviously been 914 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: around for a long time. Uh isn't talked about publicly 915 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: too often. I feel like it's getting more and more 916 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 1: um easy to talk about it in the public for 917 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: people who have gone through it. I mean, it feels 918 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: like a topic anyways. I don't know how to expand 919 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: on this, mostly to say that Vienna has came out publicly, UM, 920 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: has increased her confidence. UM. And now Vienna kind of 921 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: comes out once again. Who we haven't seen her for 922 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: a while, and it used to be a name that 923 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: was really popular in Bachelor Nation. We we would talk 924 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 1: about it all the time, but here in the last 925 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: few years, Vienna has not been kind of on our radar. 926 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,919 Speaker 1: So Vienna's actually saying that the miscarriage that she had 927 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: of twins back in June two thousand seventeen was one 928 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: of the reasons that she went and got the plastic surgery. 929 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 1: She's calling an angel Mommy may take over and it's 930 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 1: helping her heal. She revealed this to our friend Lauren 931 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 1: Ziema with eat t Um. She says she thinks about 932 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: the girls every day, that she lost. I mean, that 933 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: is one thing that you know, as she you and 934 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: I can't relate with. And it's one of those pains 935 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: and and things that uh, I imagine you'd have to 936 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: go through to even be able to talk to and about. 937 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: But oh, this makes so much sense. So she says 938 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: that she had a mommy pooch, you know, like her 939 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: tummy had a mommy pooch, and it was a constant 940 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: reminder of the twins that she lost. She said she 941 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 1: gained twenty five pounds from that. That she said she 942 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,319 Speaker 1: gained twenty five pounds over a year from being so 943 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: depressed and then this was just like a wound on 944 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,800 Speaker 1: top of it. And so every time she looked at herself, 945 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 1: she got hurt and got angry. It's um, it's I 946 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 1: really hope that Vienna is healing. I mean, I know 947 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: we both do and we all do, but I really 948 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: hope that this transition or this allows her heart to 949 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: be calmed. And I know this has got to be 950 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: hard for her, and I think through this whole thing 951 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: is I hope Vienna knows that she was She's she's 952 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 1: always been beautiful and um, and hopefully this new kind 953 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: of a season or this, you know, with with some 954 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: of the plastic surity. Now she can not erase the memories. 955 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: I know she doesn't want to do that, and as 956 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: I'm reading through the article here, but it will help 957 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: her heel and move on and know that she did 958 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: her best to be the best mother possible while she 959 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:41,240 Speaker 1: had um those girls. Um another kind of another sad story. 960 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 1: Taylor nolan Um, who was with Derek Paith after There's 961 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: Time on Bachelor in Paradise, is single again after relationship 962 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,320 Speaker 1: with the Canada man has ended. She comes out public 963 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: with US magazine and talks about if she could ever 964 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: reconcile things with Derek Payte. Now, I feel like we 965 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 1: need to ask Derek about about this on the live show. 966 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,280 Speaker 1: What do you think? Oh? Yeah, totally, But I'm pretty 967 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 1: sure I think that he hasn't spoken to her in 968 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 1: a long time. I don't think it ended well. I 969 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: don't think it was a beautiful ending to their relationship. 970 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: And so when we do the live show once again 971 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 1: January eleven in San Francisco, go to ticketmaster dot com 972 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,799 Speaker 1: for tickets, I think we should dig in a little 973 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: bit to DRK Paith and what exactly happened in their relationship. Absolutely, 974 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: and our live audience is going to get it first. 975 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: They're gonna see him squirm in his chair as we 976 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 1: asked him the tough questions, talk about unedited and raw. 977 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: That's the live show. Yes, yes, And when I stumble 978 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: over words, I can't look at Eastern and be like 979 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: cut that out, cut it out. No, We're just gonna 980 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 1: say it. It's my favorite. We have one more hot 981 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 1: topic before we go on to emails. We're gonna revisit 982 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,399 Speaker 1: Vanessa Grimaldi for a second. So she's sent engagement ring 983 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: pictures to her boyfriend. She's basically saying, hey, buddy, Josh 984 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 1: Wolf is his name. I am ready to commit. She goes, 985 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 1: just f y, I'm I've been sending Josh pictures of 986 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 1: engagement rings. Is that like a no? No? This is 987 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: something she said on our On My Husband's podcast with 988 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,720 Speaker 1: de non Glert. They help us second data and podcast. 989 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 1: How would you feel if Jessica started sending you engagement 990 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: rings being like hey, bud, hint and hint. I think 991 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 1: it was if it was talked about before, like hey, um, 992 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,240 Speaker 1: here's the time period. She hasn't, by the way, um, 993 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 1: but if it was talked about before, Hey, here's the 994 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: time period that I'm thinking we should you know that 995 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: we're both probably thinking about getting engaged. I think it 996 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: would be helpful to know what she wants. I think 997 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: it needs to be conversed about, like I think we 998 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: need to come to an agreement that it's going to happen. 999 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: I think if this is like the first sign that hey, 1000 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 1: I want to get engaged, and now I'm sending you 1001 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 1: pictures of wedding rings that could come off a little aggressive, 1002 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 1: do you like having that engagement talk or do you 1003 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: just want to surprise her with it? I like having 1004 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: to talk. I think at that point you are making 1005 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: a mutual commitment to a huge I mean to one 1006 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: of the to the biggest decision in your life, and 1007 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: so at that point it should be talked through. You 1008 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 1: should know where the other person stands, and you should 1009 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: know that they are fully confident in walking into this 1010 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 1: next season of life with you as well. I want 1011 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 1: to make sure I'm clear that you know their ideas 1012 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: for what's happening next is very similar to mine, or 1013 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 1: if not, we can come to some agreement. But is 1014 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: that like a sit down and talk about when are 1015 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 1: we going to get engaged. Was the timeline of our 1016 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: engagement or is that more like I see like kids 1017 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,359 Speaker 1: and being with you forever and then her saying yeah 1018 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 1: me too. It could be both. I mean I think 1019 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 1: for me, it's interesting because Jessica is in Nashville, and 1020 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,280 Speaker 1: so there's a whole like moving thing that has to happen, 1021 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: and there's a whole job transition, and there's those things 1022 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 1: that need to happen, so like there's a lot of 1023 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 1: logistical planning moving up to that day. Even so it 1024 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 1: has to be kind of a holistic conversation of hey, 1025 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 1: are you into this? Do you want to have kids together? 1026 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 1: Do you want to do this thing together? And then 1027 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 1: it's also are you excited about this? What does your 1028 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: ring look like? Like? Those things have to happen, But 1029 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 1: I do like the mystery to the unknowing of when 1030 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: it could happen. To know, like we only talked about 1031 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: like we're like, well, this is forever. Like everything was 1032 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 1: always like when we're fifty, you know, talking about that 1033 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 1: stuff and like talking about our kids one day, But 1034 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: we never necessarily said like so I would like to actually, well, 1035 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: I did say that we had to get engaged before 1036 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 1: we moved in together. Yeah, it is a little more 1037 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: traditional Ashley and I respect that, and I think it's fair. 1038 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,359 Speaker 1: I think, you know, um, I'm learning now more and 1039 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: more there are some really beautiful things about having more 1040 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,439 Speaker 1: of a private relationship than one that's in the public eye. 1041 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 1: And there's some very personal choices that Jessica and I 1042 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 1: want to make, um, like not living together before we're married, um, 1043 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 1: because of kind of the moral boundaries were setting for 1044 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 1: ourselves in our relationship that are private, um. And there's 1045 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: a lot more to that that I won't discuss, and 1046 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: that's beautiful to be able to have those and operate 1047 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 1: those and navigate those, um without the pressures of the 1048 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 1: outside world. So yeah, you know, I think all of 1049 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: this to to kind of close up the Vanessa idea 1050 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: with sending rings and talking about engagements. I have really 1051 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:28,839 Speaker 1: enjoyed having these conversations with Jessica without the pressure of 1052 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 1: the world looking in. It's been really nice and it's 1053 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 1: allowed us to grow as a couple and have really 1054 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: We just did an interview for Sadie Robertson and one 1055 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: of the things that we took away with was Jessica 1056 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 1: and I are really good. I will give us credit 1057 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 1: for this, for having the tough conversations. That's awesome. I'm 1058 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 1: really happy for you guys. You and Jared what good 1059 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 1: at having the tough conversations. Oh yeah, we haven't. We 1060 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 1: don't even scrot around it. Yeah, well you're married. You 1061 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: called him your husband and it's still throwst me off. 1062 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 1: So funny. Um, well, hey, one email that I want 1063 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 1: to read from Jillian. Uh, she is a driver. I'm 1064 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 1: not gonna say the name of this um shared driving experience, 1065 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: but it says this. Whitney and Grandma was listening to 1066 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: last week's podcast, and Whitney talked about having only dated 1067 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 1: Connor and Nick and Batchel Nation, but earlier at the 1068 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,839 Speaker 1: beginning of the year before Paradise. I was driving for 1069 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: this company and actually picked up Whitney and Graham Bunn 1070 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: from the bachelorette bachelor pad in Paradise and dropped them 1071 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,759 Speaker 1: off to dinner. But definitely seemed like a date. They're 1072 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 1: really friendly towards me, and he mentioned that she gets 1073 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 1: recognized everywhere they go, so it didn't seem like the 1074 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 1: first date. Maybe she forgot about him. That happens. She 1075 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: probably doesn't even associate him as a Bachelor person because 1076 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 1: this season was so long ago. He lives uh grandmut, 1077 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 1: I think lives in Eli. He's he's now a host 1078 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: of a couple of radio shows. He's on country music. Yeah, 1079 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 1: he's not like associated with the show. No, he's moved on. 1080 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,399 Speaker 1: It's hey, if you forgot about a day or two 1081 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: or five, I get it. But that is something that 1082 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 1: came up in our emails. This we keep emailing something 1083 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,919 Speaker 1: in Ashley at I heeart media dot com. We love 1084 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,240 Speaker 1: reading your emails and we love answering them when they 1085 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: come in. Speaking of emails coming in and Twitter polls, 1086 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 1: we've asked, you've delivered. We talied up the results of 1087 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 1: our poll. Who do you want to be the next 1088 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 1: in depth guest? Because the in depth podcasts are blowing up, 1089 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 1: they're so popular. Ashley and I love doing them. And 1090 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 1: the answer is Ashley Dean Unglert. So he's coming very 1091 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 1: soon to send us your questions for Dean, and we 1092 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: will blast him with him. I mean, we will not 1093 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: let him leave this in depth podcast without just getting 1094 00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: riddled with questions. He's very good at diverting though, no, no, know, 1095 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,399 Speaker 1: We're gonna make sure he's on the spot. It's gonna 1096 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 1: be awesome. Dean Angler was the answer. So we're bringing 1097 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 1: you Dan angler Berry very soon before we go. You guys, 1098 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 1: you know if you live in that San Francisco area, 1099 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 1: we are expecting to see you on January eleven. And 1100 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,799 Speaker 1: where we're gonna be and what time? Give him the deeds, Ben, 1101 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna be in San Francisco at the Palace of 1102 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:28,840 Speaker 1: Fine Arts Saturday, January eleven. That's how weird is that 1103 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 1: seven pm? Show starts at eight pm. Tickets range from 1104 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 1: thirty five. I really think it's worth the ninety nine. 1105 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 1: So you guys get to come and meet us with 1106 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 1: the v I P. That's where the lot. There's a 1107 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,279 Speaker 1: lot of merch that will be at the show. It's 1108 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a really good time. Visit ticket master dot 1109 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 1: com for more details. Hey, everybody, it's been a great podcast. 1110 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 1: It's the off season, so we're kicking it and we're chilling. 1111 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,879 Speaker 1: Here's the final segment of the podcast. It's called Ben Bitches. Yeah, 1112 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 1: why do you throw these up to me? And like, 1113 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,400 Speaker 1: you throw them at me and I don't even expect 1114 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 1: them and it gets me really excited. I love the surprise. 1115 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 1: Why do you get on the moving walkways and not move. 1116 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know it's all and and here's 1117 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,640 Speaker 1: the funny part about this whole thing. And then you 1118 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 1: have your kids on the leash next to you that 1119 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 1: take up the whole walkways so you can't pass them. 1120 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, airports are a hectic place and they 1121 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 1: caused me a ton of stress in my life, as 1122 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: we talked about before. But even if you're at a mall, 1123 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 1: or if you're at an airport, or if you're in 1124 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 1: one of those fancy cities that have the walkways down 1125 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:40,919 Speaker 1: the street, move on the walkways. If not, stand off 1126 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 1: to the side. With that. I've been Ben, and we'll 1127 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Follow the Benn and Ashley 1128 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,920 Speaker 1: I Almost Famous podcast on IHR Radio or subscribe wherever 1129 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts.