WEBVTT - Live at the Combine; Uncertainty at QB 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:15.160 I'm read Lewis, and this is NFL Inside Reports special 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:18.040 episode for you guys here this week, coming to you 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:22.720 from the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. Here from the 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:26.079 Indiana Convention Center where a lot of the work going 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:29.360 on here ahead of the first workouts which began Thursday. 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:31.240 Of course you can see an NFL network go through 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:38.320 Sunday and our pals here and Insider is Insiders Extraordinaire 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:41.440 Tom Peal Sero Ian Rap Report. Guys. Great to be 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:44.000 back here in the Circle City, the Who's Your State 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.280 with all of you guys, the looks on your face, 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:51.440 with that kind of enthusiasm. No, no, so I was 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:57.960 on I was on another program killed Indianapolis. Yeah, that's 0:00:57.960 --> 0:00:59.880 to let you in here. You know what I got 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:02.960 to extra immediately was Chris Ballard. So for people who 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.360 don't know, I was on the MacAfee show and I 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:07.400 made a joke. It was not a joke, it was true. 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:10.240 But I made a joke about how cold I always am. 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.919 And the only memories I have of Indie are walking 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.679 back to my hotel room absolutely freezing with no jacket 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:19.960 because one year I brought a jacket. Indie not unprepared. 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:23.280 I brought a jacket to Prime forty seven, left it there. 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.960 Went the next night with a different jacket, left hat there, 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.760 and my wife was as angry at me as she 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.480 maybe has ever been. And I'm like, I'm never wearing 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:34.320 a jacket out again. Did you pick those back up 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:35.800 this week? Where did they hold them for you for 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:39.520 the last two years? But I did. I do constantly 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.120 look around to see if anyone one was like an 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.479 Endful Network jacket that there wasn't a lot of, So 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.560 I do actually look around for it from time to 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:47.400 see if anyone's wearing it. No, so I don't wear 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.320 a jacket, so I always say, it's like I'm freezing. 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.280 So I walked around from bar to bar and I'm 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:53.960 just freezing. And then the Internauto Star wrote a story 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:57.760 on my comments about how I slammed Indie and then 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.840 like Ballard text me and he's like, why would you 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:02.600 do that to our cities? Like I'm going to kill 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:06.840 you from the podium. I'm like, here's what you're doing 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.120 is you're making yourself the story and you're supposed to be. 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:14.760 He's asserting himself after what like twelve years infl network 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.360 something like that, like you're still figuring out how TV 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:21.680 and the internet. I was not. If you say something, 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:26.680 someone might hear it and then repeat it. So right, 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.799 so we know how ian feels about Indianapolis. How excited 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:34.680 are you to be back here? And I legitimately love Indianapolis. 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:36.720 I know that there's gonna be a lot of discussion 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:40.400 about the event potentially moving to l a or to Dallas, 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:44.560 and setting aside those alternatives, the way that this place 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.720 is set up, the inner captivity of it. We're not 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:50.639 freezing this week. It's in the sixties. It's actually ian 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.880 and I walked over here outside to the stadium, which 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:56.399 I can ever remember doing at the Combine. But Indianapolis 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.200 has has a lot going forward in terms of the restaurants, 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.679 the all different places, and you kind of get a 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.680 feel for it after many years. You know what teams 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.200 are in what hotels, you know where agents and teams 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.400 get together. You kind of know all those things, like 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.000 if you need to bump into someone, you've got a 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:14.280 pretty good idea of of where that that might happen. 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.120 I also love the simplicity of you know, every time 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:18.959 they like there's these longer trips and I'm always like 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:20.560 if I remember to do it, like a month out, 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.359 like I'll book dinner reservations at different places like here. 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:26.120 I'm just like eight o'clock at sant almost every night 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.120 because the whole week tom we'll be back there tonight. 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.120 There's other places, but it's just like this is like 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:37.280 the simte knows where it is still good. Yeah, anything 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.600 any other words to share about sat Almos that might 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:45.040 get written about tomorrow? Um? I love the shrim cocktail. Um, 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:46.680 I said my wife a lovely picture of the shrimp 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.040 cocktail last night at herrying is He's And she sent 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.880 me back the emoji that, oh you didn't come by, Zella. 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:57.560 I didn't see you. Big big guests are But Daniel, 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:03.080 Daniel Jeremiah guy do something. I saw some of his friends. 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:08.000 I said to some of his friends. Yes, Um, so 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.920 let's talk about though, about the mechanics of this event 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:14.560 and how valuable it is for you guys in terms 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.359 of information gathering and you know what it's like to 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.640 have that back this year as opposed to last year 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.599 where this event was shut shuttered to literally everyone except 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.359 for medical personnel in the prospects. I mean, is it 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:30.200 is it that valuable. I underestimated how valuable and just 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:34.440 like enjoyable it would be. You know, like so a 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.080 bunch of new gms, bunch of new coaches and coaches 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:39.600 and a lot of them gms. I didn't know all 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.240 of them, and even just to be able to be 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:46.520 like hello, I'm whoever and have that initial conversation, like 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.200 I missed that for two years. Last night I had 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:50.920 a coach who I've been talking to for a year 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.680 look at me and be like in and I was 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:57.600 like you and then like we had not met in person. Really, 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.880 this is all where it happens, Like I I missed 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:06.560 it terribly, And we've got fifteen head coaches since essentially 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:10.440 something something in that range, and probably ten new gms, 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:12.760 and that's right. Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's been a 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.680 lot of think that, but I mean everybody was kind 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:17.600 of locked down for quite a while. Lester was a 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.040 little bit more normal, but you missed out on, you know, 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.360 certain events and get together. So yeah, I mean there's 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.840 people that you get to know, you know, over the 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.000 phone or whatever, and you never actually get to meet 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.720 him in person. So you know, now doing that stuff 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:31.520 even to see like some of the new head coaches 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:33.400 and stuff like that. You know, we had Kevin O'Connell, 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.400 Josh McDaniels on set. I got to catch up with 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:39.640 Mike McDaniel earlier, who every everything that comes out of 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:43.200 his mouth is so hilarious and unique and it's for 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.760 the moment, like he's he's a fascinated individual and so 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.159 like everything he does. Like the video, I think it 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.200 was you retweeted him. It was Andrew with him like 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.680 pumping his fist when John Lynch said something nice about 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:57.480 him at the crowd. John, Yeah, I mean he's It's 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.800 gonna be really interesting to see how how that plays out. 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.320 I think you get you get to know the dynamics 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.680 a little bit because you observe people together. It just 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:06.240 kind of how they are even when they're walking around, 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:07.640 how they interact with the media. And so I was 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.239 thinking about that with I don't think it's a secret. 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.440 Saw some of the Vikings coaches out last night and 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.080 second nine a row and they were all together and 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:17.920 everyone has friends around the league, but like they were 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.440 all together and like whatever bonding that is, like that's 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.479 really valuable. I would also say this because there was 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.440 a story that was written by some website last year 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.000 that you know, basically made out like or two years ago, 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.279 but made out the Combine to be like you know, 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:37.200 party clown show. Like no, everyone's out super late because 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.320 like you're trying to see people and like they're spread out. 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.560 This is now everything, right, I mean, not not anymore, 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:46.240 that's for sure. Maybe once upot of time at the 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.680 Combine for me, but not anymore. It's just like you're 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.719 just actually enjoy Yegor Maister, not the Jego bombs, but 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.120 like I could sit Yego Master. It is a delicious drink. 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:59.240 You're weird. It's great for another day that we at 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.160 any rate. You know, you feel like like last night 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.200 I went to bed about two o'clock and I was like, man, 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.760 I really shouldn't. Coaches were being like, oh, you're coming 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.840 down the street and I'm like no, I just I can't. 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.720 I did it last night and I can't do it again. 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:14.720 But there's just there's that many people in town. It's 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.720 it's fun. You know, it's a big networking event for 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.320 coaches in front office people to because you know, as 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.480 you're putting together when you have somebody get a job, 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.080 the people they know and grant, you go through interview 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:25.680 process and whatnot, but like some of it is just 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.440 getting in front of people. Can you work with this person? 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.480 You get to know people through these types of events. 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:34.920 That's hugely valuable, um for everybody. Zaberrier was talking, We're 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.520 talking about Zach Hayley yesterday talking about the various great 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.800 things about the Combine and these meetings and all that. 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:45.240 And you know, one of the good things for young 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:47.760 coaches is like this is a great time to connect 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.920 and meet people, and like coaches of all kinds, opportunities 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:52.720 are born. Yeah, but we were talking about, you know, 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.600 minority coaches and how you get some of the really 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.320 good minority coaches in front of decision makers. Like this 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.040 is a great place, and you know it's unfortunate that 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.680 not all people send their staffs like this is really valuable. 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.120 So like when like Zach was saying, I don't think 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.800 like talking out of school here because it was like 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.559 no secret he was like when he had to hire 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.280 I think a secondary coach, like he didn't really know 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.040 any he needed to do research because he knew the offer. 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:17.920 But like this is a great place to get everyone 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.800 together and meet and interconnect and mingle and like build 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:22.600 connection for us a lot of times when we're talking 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.160 about people who may not be you know, the head coaches, 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.400 the gms and things like that, Like you get to 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:29.560 know him in places like this in social settings and 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.840 then you can actually speak intelligently just about what type 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:35.920 of guys and then eventually, So Monday night, I had 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.520 dinner and like one thing I always do is like 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.800 I'll leave a seat at the table whatever the reservations 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.600 for I'll invite one too few people because you never 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.360 know who's gonna have. So the other night, a head 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.720 coach just happened to be in the place, sits down 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.080 with us. We're talking for you know, an hour or 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.560 so with me and a couple of other people, and 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.880 he starts talking about we started talking about some of 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.000 the issues in terms of the minority hiring numbers and 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:58.880 things like that. So he's like he started talking aboute 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.080 guy in the staffish like this guy's so good, nobody 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:03.080 knows about him, Like that guy should be a head coach. 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.720 That's the guy should be talking about. So I connected 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.559 with him at breakfast with him this morning, Like that's 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.960 the stuff that happens. That's just like the unique nature 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.920 of everyone's literally being in the same place all the time, 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:14.520 and you get to know some of those people, and 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.959 that's that's the only way that you kind of get 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:18.720 to know some of those those people who are not 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.440 necessarily the front line face of the organization people and 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:26.360 will probably find his way onto your next coaching GM 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:34.840 Canada definitely not sourceless, So let me ask you, definitely not. 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:41.040 These are all my source the people within the leagues 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:46.320 they should be. So this is a unique event because 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:49.240 it's merging, you know, like the current NFL world with 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:52.160 the future NFL world, right, and so how do you 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:55.960 guys kind of balance the intel gathering on what's going 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.080 on with teams with you know, what's going on with prospects. 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.600 I think the it you know for us, like we're 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.920 not you know, we're not trying to do like we 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.240 we're not gonna be watching the workouts like I'll peek 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.160 it like the quarterback stuff and things like that, Like 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.679 I ultimately don't know what I'm looking at. So it's 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:14.240 more about talking to people within the league, like the least, Yeah, 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.760 here's the thing. Are something we do on NFL network 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:18.680 is awesome, like the on the TV and getting like 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:20.120 the new head coaches on the set and stuff like 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.400 that's super fun and I think it's great content. But 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.520 in terms of like the value to clubs, most of 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.480 it is not what happens in there. It's not even 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:30.560 what happens in the stadium, right, it's the medical and 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.600 it's the interviews and it's all these other things that 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.680 really until you get days or weeks down the line, 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.240 you don't necessarily get all the all the feedback. Again, 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:42.360 unless somebody does something really good or really bad, you 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.800 don't hear about the stuff. That's just kind of as expected. 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.480 Andy and just walked off. He'll be back. He's gonna 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:55.520 charge his phone. Um so just see you. No nobody 0:10:55.520 --> 0:11:02.240 excuse me. But in terms of this place, like, um so, 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.760 my dad, who was a longtime trainer in the league, 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.080 you know, had probably been here for thirty of the 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:10.200 thirty five years that the Combine has been in Indianapolis, 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:12.080 and I've been in the league for longer than that, 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:16.920 and you know, loves this place as the home of 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:21.440 the Combine. And look, staff members like that, coaches, gms 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.719 creatures of habit in a big sense, and this has 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:28.480 become such a familiarity to them. How do you feel 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.720 like the teams in the team personnel are gonna adapt 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:37.040 when and if this this does eventually change venues, Well, 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:42.200 it's gonna be a substantial adjustment. Nice. I think that 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:47.000 you know, with Dallas that would probably be fairly similar. 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:50.920 It would be different. Um, great restaurants in Dallas. Yeah, 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.439 but that stadium, though, is not close to a lot 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.600 of stuff any would so fi stadiums in But it's 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.120 a lot of stuff you can't walk. There's not You're 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:00.840 not just gonna walk out of the stadium and you 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:04.880 are where you need to be and everyone you need 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.120 to see. So that's some of the fundamental fabric of 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:11.439 it is all those the interactions team team teamed agent. Well, 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.360 here's the other question. Let's and I don't know the 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.400 answer to this because I haven't dug that deeply into it, 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.600 but let's say they move it to Dallas or l 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:20.200 seems like certainly possible in the next couple of years. 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.000 Do they do the medical off site? Because it did 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:27.840 seem to work doing remote medicals. It's hard to get 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.559 the info by the end, but everyone got it and 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.439 they all shared the info. Like I wonder if they 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:39.800 just do that here. But this why it's centralized, like 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:44.000 you need to you know, you could everyone has doctors, 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.600 everyone shares info. You could have people have to go 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:50.600 to team facilities and do it. Team doctors all share info. 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.480 You could you could make their medical remote. You can 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.640 make the drills at the at the Star, you can 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:00.280 make the dinners at the Coon Lodge. And because again 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.560 this is it's just making the case. No, and there's 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.560 good restaurants in now Is, but Dallas has really really 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.280 good restaurants, including the best barbecue place in the world. 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:09.960 Didn't you live in Dallas for a minute? I did 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:14.640 three years. The medical has changed to like the process 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:16.680 that they're using this year is a little bit different 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:20.840 where it's one doctor is bringing each player around. It 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:22.800 used to be you'd have, however, many rooms and with 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:26.720 six different rooms clusters and present. Now it's one doctor 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:30.520 goes and presents to everybody really and so then you 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.720 know they can ask questions and things like that. So 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.280 it's unique. It's a unique process, Like it's not literally 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.880 thirty two doctors like going up and poking and problems. 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:41.040 Although you can do that, it's like a different setting 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.160 those opportunities to do it. But it is a little 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:46.679 bit different process here. The issue with doing everything remote 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:52.560 is your trusting local doctors. And maybe some of them 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:54.880 are team physicians, some of them are not. Like you 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.560 have thirty two different team doctors, thirty two teams with 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.520 different degrees of risk tolerance. So when you're talking about 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.480 some of the stuff, and take Carson Strong's knee, for example, 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:07.360 he's got osteochondritis. He's had it since high school. Several procedures, 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.480 wasn't last year, had a couple of a couple of 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:14.319 procedures on it, says he's you know better, he told 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.520 me a hundred times better in terms of his mobility 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.160 now than he was during last season. But that's a 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.480 unique condition. It's one that's strong and you know, his 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.480 doctors don't think it's going to be an issue, but 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.640 anything like that, teams are going to want to get 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:28.720 up close look at it. So what you want to 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.480 avoid then is, yeah, the local doctor said this, but 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.200 we want our guy to get our hands on now, 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:36.800 he's got to get on ten planes and away though 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.920 they do with unique cases, but it would be more widespread. 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.640 And that was part of the issue with that a 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.800 couple of years ago, was you did not have trusted medical. 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.480 So again, so let's say even if you just had 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.080 the medical here, but then you did the the TV 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.320 aspect of it on the front stuff in l A, 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:55.640 our team is still gonna come in the same numbers. 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:57.280 We already have some teams not coming to this event. 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.280 If the teams aren't going, some of the player is go, 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:02.520 why would I work out when half the teams are? 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.560 And then we start getting this is the line you 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:06.920 have to kind of walk in terms of making sure 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.760 that this is a functional thing for clothes with us, 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.640 because if you bring everyone to l A, it's everyone 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:15.720 comes into the studio sits down. If you get all 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:17.680 the first round picks to go, do everything and right, 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.320 it would be content for which it would it would 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:23.080 make in our facility out there is amazing. The state 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.600 was amazing, but it was great the first time you 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.880 meet everyone in our officers well yeah, you still on 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.400 that box on the patio deck there for the six. 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.920 Locker room might be the coolest thing. Guys like great 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.440 Rosenthal has a locker room. Mean, get out of here 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:45.360 is a locker Come on, that's a brave New world guys. Okay, 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.360 but the guys you just mentioned are doing their podcast 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.680 on a State for celebrity again. We're in a back 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.160 room at a table next to the gatorade thing. Okay, 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:58.680 so let's not knock them gain great. Yeah, the Influence 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:05.080 Side Report though, we will be stage off area from 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.600 everyone else, just to kind of keep you guys away 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:10.400 from the gin pop out here, you know, and make 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:12.160 sure you don't get hounded, and just want to make 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.840 this very comfortable and inviting space. We share all of 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.240 your intel what you're gonna do right after this quick 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:31.680 break here an NFL Inside Report all, welcome back everybody 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.040 INFL Inside Report rolling on here from the NFL Scouting 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.720 Combine in Indianapolis. Lewis back here with our guys rep 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:41.880 report and Tom Pella Sero here kind of chatting about 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.600 the process of the combine, the intel gathering at the top. 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.560 Here into some of that hard news as we have 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:52.520 seen now this week that the situation in Arizona with 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.800 the Cardinals has taken a ton of kind of twists 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.160 and turns here with the Kyler Murray statement earlier in 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.800 the week from the Agent uh and now we find 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:02.640 out that Steve Kim and Cliff Kingsbury the head coach 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.480 and GM have both been extended for another years with 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:09.399 the organization, So it feels like that they are moving 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.600 forward confidently in that brain trust. Um Ian and and 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:14.440 then Tom would love to get your thoughts on how 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.720 this kind of has all come together with the Cardinal. Yeah, 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.000 so it doesn't sound like this was something that got 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.240 hammered out last night. For instance. It sounds like this 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.800 at least had been done. Uh So I would assume, 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.639 knowing what I do about Eric Burkhard, who was the 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.520 agent for Cliff Kingsbury and also the agent for Kyler Murray, 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:32.760 that he probably knew they were in a good place 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:36.199 contract wise with Cliff before doing anything with Kyler. At 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.200 least to my brain, that would make some sense. Don't 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.520 know that, but that would make some sense. Uh It Also, 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.560 you know, I think a lot of people were wanting 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:47.800 the reaction of Kyler Murray. Would he be like pissed? 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.760 Would he be like, why haven't they done me? Well, 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:55.000 the reality is these guys helped make Kyler Murray who 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.359 he is. Cliff Kingsbury's offense is part of the reason 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.800 why Kyler murray plays the way he does. So, Yes, 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.199 in a way, it's a little bit of like, what 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.080 are they doing? Why did they do my extension? On 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.879 the other hand, he knows the guys who are partly 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:09.560 responsible for his success are going to be there for 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.080 a very long time, so it's like kind of weird news, 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.320 but it's also very good news for Kyler Murray because 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.760 this is stability for the guy who helped make him 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:20.320 the quarterback he is. And in terms of Kyler, he's 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.399 a situation where he's seeing other guys get paid and 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.479 the year three year eligible not for an extension. Patrick Mahomes, 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:30.000 Josh Allen, Deshaun Watson, they all got paid. So from 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:33.480 Murray's perspective here, he's do five point five million dollars 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.360 in two, which is the fourth YEARNS rookie deal. They'll 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.320 obviously pick up the fifth year option too if they're 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.080 on the shield done by then, Because you five point 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.840 five million this fall, I do not anticipate that he's 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:44.920 going to play for five point five million. So really 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:48.359 the Cardinals have to decide do you ramp up the 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:51.400 negotiations now, which is earlier in the calendar than those 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.480 guys got done. Most of those extensions get done after 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.920 the draft or right before training camp. Do you try 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:58.720 to get something done right now which is going to 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:00.960 be in line with the top but the quarterback markets, 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:02.919 you're talking about forty million dollars plus. I don't know 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.680 the specific proposal that was made by Eric Burkhardt, but 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:07.840 certainly you would anticipate he wants to be paid like 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.240 all the other guys who always get top of the market, 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:15.119 uh type of money. Do you do that now or 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:18.240 do you run the risk that for everything that's happened 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.760 over the past couple of months, deleted Instagram photos, et cetera, 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.360 how does he do that? Did you go through each 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:28.680 photo and somebody, somebody, somebody has has to be a program. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.200 It's possible you could wash him out at any rate 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.159 cutting me off there. Um, So you've obviously got some 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:37.080 level of tension here. We've reported on, you know, Gara 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:40.200 Folos reported on some of the things that happened, uh, 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:42.600 you know after the season that they made very clear 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:44.000 to him that they want more from him in terms 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:47.560 of leadership and everything else. I find that, you know, 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:52.560 a fascinating detail because every year we talk about, you know, 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:55.440 the quarterbacks in particular at this event, and so three 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:57.879 years ago at the Combine one of the topics I 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:00.680 was talking about on TV was about, um the leadership 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:03.640 angle with Kyler Murray, just because he's more to himself. 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:07.320 He hung out with the baseball players at Oklahoma, you know, 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:10.160 a quieter guy. He had just done some awkward interviews 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:11.520 at the Super Bowl. And I'm not saying this to 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:14.080