1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Shot screaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com and the official 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Hecma, Harrison Everson, Wolves, 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: and Mickey Spagnola. 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: Here we are fishing for some visitors inside the s 7 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: WBC podcast studio. Is Mickey takes a look, thinking there's 8 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 2: a tour. Hecma's fishing over there, Mickey, come on, we're 9 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: fishing in we're visitors in here. Because it is a 10 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: Tuesday here on mix shots. It's a day off for 11 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: the players, but it's never a day off for us 12 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: in here. Exactly right. We had Jerry Jones talking on 13 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: the radio this morning. We are one week away from 14 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 2: fixing this defense trade deadline. Three o'clock. Come on today afternoon, 15 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: and here we go. 16 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: What did he say, Nicky? What did he say? Give 17 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 3: me give me the give me the good news, what's 18 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: right off the top? Give me the Jerry report, man, 19 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: give me the gospel? Uh sounds exciting? 20 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: It wasn't exciting? 21 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: Did you think it? 22 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 5: Wass I just? 23 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: I mean, Jerry Ty its retired time and tweeting about 24 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 2: what he said. 25 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 4: They've got a lot of corrections to make. Said, the 26 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 4: outcome of the game didn't have any influence on him 27 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 4: one way or the other. With the trade deadline, with 28 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 4: the outcome. 29 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: Of the Arizona game, have any influence, I think it 30 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: would Okay, that sounds thinks right, And he understands that 31 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: they're not like one player away from so you think 32 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: he's holding his water until he sees what happens Monday 33 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: night against the Arizona. 34 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 4: Car And he did not want to reveal what position 35 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 4: he was looking at because he could look at quite 36 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: a few smart Yeah, so he wasn't committing one way. 37 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 5: Or in the other. 38 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 4: But there was a lot of corrections to make. 39 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: You know, we talk about one player. I'm sure you 40 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 3: can make more than one move before the trade deadline, right, Yeah, 41 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: and all those trades don't have to be blockbustered, no, now, 42 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: you know, I mean they could sound like a guy, yeah, 43 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 3: Everson Walls. Hey, it's not an old dude, you know, 44 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 3: at the end of his career. They could pick up 45 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: somebody like that. 46 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: Who might be They got enough old dudes they picked up. 47 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 5: Now, they got enough young dudes they picked. 48 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: Up well, or to your point, you can pick up 49 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: players maybe on other teams that are in the final 50 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: year of their contract and they're on a team that's 51 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: not destined for the playoffs at a position of need. 52 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: And the good news as far as position of need 53 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: go on this defense, every position, there's a. 54 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 5: Lot of need options plentiful exactly, or guys that you 55 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 5: coveted in the draft, or the guys that you were 56 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 5: pursuing that are on other practice squads back in the day. 57 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 5: Maybe that's that's what I'm saying. You know, there's a 58 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 5: lot of that. 59 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: And it's like you're not even giving up draft typically 60 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: if you're getting someone who's not a blockbuster type guy. Uh, 61 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: you're getting a guy to fill a role Phil thege 62 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: someone until it could be these injured players get back 63 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: could be a key role where you've got an experienced 64 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: player coming in here. You're basically you're giving up a 65 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: You're you're giving up a sixth and getting back a 66 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: seventh and so you're just moving down in the That's 67 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: the way all these these trades for third day picks 68 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: have been going. 69 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: Uh, there are surprises out there, yeah, but has just 70 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: got to be smart to find them. 71 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: And they've got salary cap space, and it's. 72 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 5: Like mining for gold at this point with certain players. 73 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 5: And I would think that most rosters are plentiful. But 74 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 5: they have enough linebackers and secondary guys, safeties, corners, guys 75 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 5: like that. Now, nobody's gonna trade you the offensive lineman 76 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 5: and those guys they covet those guys, defensive linemen, but linebackers, safeties. 77 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 5: Let's see if they if they make a move on 78 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 5: some of those positions. 79 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 4: Is somebody gonna trade you a starter. 80 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 5: I wouldn't say a starter man, come be in. 81 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't necessarily say a start, but someone 82 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: who's still key and might be on the end of 83 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: his career, but he's got the experience. And when I 84 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: say end of his career, still in his late twenties. 85 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: Here's a great example of it. Because of our discussion 86 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 2: yesterday about the Baltimore Ravens, I went back and looked 87 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: to see what fixes they made. And by the way, 88 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: they had a bye week in between the Texans game 89 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: where CJ. Stroud let them up for forty four points. Okay, 90 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: they not only got Kyle Hamilton and Marlon Humphrey back, 91 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: but they made a trade with the Chargers for a 92 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: safety Alohi Gilman, who is now starting for them. And 93 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: so here's a guy who has been in his contract 94 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 2: year with the Chargers and he goes right into the 95 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: starting lineup with the Ravens and they beat the Bears 96 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: yesterday or Sunday thirty to sixteen. So there's there's guys 97 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: like that. And they gave up I think it was 98 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: they gave up a sixth and got back Gilman and 99 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: a seventh, or gave up a fifth and got a 100 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: sixth back. 101 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 5: Was that? I mean, see, that's what I'm talking about. 102 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 3: Something that's low risk in most eyes, right, but it 103 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: could come out to be something beneficial. 104 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 5: The guy made he might take to it. 105 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: Where you're not having to play a rookie free agency. 106 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, more experience like yourself. Right, it happened now, mine 107 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 3: happened way in the off season. 108 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so find usually that's when it happened. 109 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, that's the whole. 110 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: The good news too, as far as that there is 111 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: there has been a and there's a lot of people 112 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: still with playoff possibilities. But there's a lot of teams 113 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: that are sitting there. 114 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 5: You know. 115 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: Now they're like the Titans, like the Dolphins, like you 116 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 2: name the teams that have one or two wins right now, 117 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 2: the Jets, you have good Saints. You know, they are 118 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: good players on the team that maybe in the last 119 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: year of their contracts or whatever, or they are guys 120 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: that you give up a little bit more if they've 121 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: got more left on there. 122 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: Once again, you got the you have the salary, yeah, position. 123 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: Salary cap space to make a move whatever. So it's 124 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: gonna be very interesting to see what happens over the 125 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: course of the next week. 126 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 5: Well, and it comes down the safety. Elijah Clark the 127 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 5: rib injury. I'm so he's been out. Yeah, so we're 128 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 5: a def con when it comes down to the safety. 129 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 2: Did Jerry indicate anything on the safety getting the safety's. 130 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 4: Back Shottennheimer said, Hooker needs another week. 131 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: Clark is teams two weeks because they got a bye 132 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: week after that, so maybe the Raiders game for him. 133 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 4: Clark is probably out two weeks to a week or two. 134 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 4: What about Will He said, we'll see on Wilson sod 135 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 4: So that didn't give you much hope to Wilson was 136 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 4: an elbow and something the shoulder or something. He had 137 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 4: two things going. 138 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 5: So, yeah, the safety he must have thrown itself in 139 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 5: there by. 140 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 4: Right and is still well, there's the other one up 141 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 4: in the air. But it didn't sound good, you know. 142 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: Talking to him last Friday, it was like, you know, 143 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 4: it's an eyesight thing because of the migraines, and uh 144 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: they were still trying to kind of get to the 145 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: bottom of it. So he said he never had anything 146 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 4: like that, but uh so, yeah, those are all your safeties. 147 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 4: And I I looked on the practice squad. I think 148 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 4: they have one safety. 149 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: Well they got they picked up Zion Childress is a 150 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: slot corner slash safety type in the same mold of 151 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: as a ready steward. And he came back last week 152 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: to the practice he had the practice squad. 153 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: And then there was one more guide number thirty two anyway, 154 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 4: something wood or something like that. 155 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: But but that gets you something, No, no, it gets 156 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: you to the point where with that injury situation, what 157 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: you're talking about, ever since picking up a guy who 158 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: can help you get through this injury. 159 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: It could cost you more than just something minimal. But 160 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 3: once again, we've got the space, we got something we 161 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: could work with, and you could take more than one 162 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: gamble with two moves. You see what I'm saying, You 163 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: can make more than one one move. 164 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: Julius Wood that was right. Who was here before and 165 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: then came back? 166 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't realize that ready. Stewart played safety, 167 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 5: went to safety after the Elijah Clark like that. Yeah, 168 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 5: that's what we talk about. Desperation. You know, when you 169 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 5: take it. 170 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 2: Where that's how depleted they Well, you. 171 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 5: Take a guy in real time, you already know that. 172 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 5: I'm sure they came into the game knowing how many 173 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 5: safeties they had behind him, and then you inject. 174 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 2: He stand up if anybody got hurt, it's that situation. 175 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 5: So well, he's a veteran of this defense. 176 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: Who Stuart if Ifster, he knows he has knowledge of it. 177 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 4: He was at the cornerback. 178 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, but still yeah, people. 179 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: On this veteran in the sense that he was with 180 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: the Eber Flush last year in Chicago. 181 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 5: Hey, don't don't don't cornerbacks or you know, we'll make 182 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 5: it safe man. Damn right, We'll just say he'll cornerback 183 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 5: and only do one thing. Get that man some credit. 184 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 4: He came in played twenty nine snap and he was 185 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 4: a guy that they talked about when he was playing 186 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: in the nickel that they felt like he was physical, 187 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 4: that he would you know, Willing, he's very aggressive. 188 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: Played the run. 189 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, he's shown that he's very aggressive in everything. 190 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: And you saw that in the preseason, yes, we did, 191 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: and I saw on the frost and the Houston Texans 192 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: saw it too, and because two games into the season 193 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 2: they picked him off the practice squad and then they 194 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: had issues themselves, and so he was cutting or and 195 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: the Cowboys getting signing back to the practice squad here well, 196 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: and he chose to come here to sign the practice 197 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: squad here. 198 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 4: But again they they made this decision that they were 199 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 4: better off with Bland in the slot and Bridges outside 200 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 4: than Bland outside and Steward in the slot. 201 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 5: I'd go, I agree with that. 202 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: You want more experience on the slot, right, you just do, 203 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: because that's usually where they're gonna try and see the mismatch. 204 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 4: You know. 205 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: Of course, now we try and counter that mismatch by 206 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 3: putting starting corners in the slot, which is smart, but 207 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 3: that's where you start playing chess. 208 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 4: But then they start throwing on the outside, and yeah, not. 209 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 5: What do you do? So what do you do this, 210 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 5: You're gonna come to the line scom and say, ah, 211 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 5: there is number twenty whatever, So twenty five. 212 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: Let's let's go at them. Hey, my whole rookie year 213 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: was that. So I definitely understand it. And see when 214 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: I when I talk about these things, it's nothing I've heard, 215 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: I've seen it done, you know, so that I just 216 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 3: don't want people playing. 217 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 5: Down to expectations. 218 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: That's what I mean when I when I sit here 219 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 3: and fuss and moan won't say what the correct term 220 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 3: is when I be when I when I sit there 221 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: and do that, I you know, it's not something that's impossible. 222 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 5: Matter of fact, it's very probable. 223 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 3: And I'm looking for someone Reveil whoever, or revel whoever. 224 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: I don't care who it is. I don't care if 225 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: he's on the bottom of the totem pole. Somebody's got 226 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: to show me something special. Right now, we haven't seen 227 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: anything special. 228 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 5: Bridges, somebody, somebody, anybody just click and so nothing on 229 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 5: the system. 230 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: I'm talking about individual players that need to understand how 231 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: important they are to this team. 232 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 5: That's the way I look at. 233 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: This, how important they are to themselves. 234 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: How surprised are you in terms of the cornerback position 235 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: with what was happening with the players coming off injuries. 236 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: How surprised are you that they're in this position as 237 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: far as not having enough cornerbacks. 238 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 4: Well, I think that they were kind. 239 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 2: Of at mid season. We're basically of that season. 240 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 4: They were counting on Rebel being ready, and you know 241 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 4: that was kind of a push, I mean a far 242 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 4: hope because he. 243 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: He's now thirteen months since his injury. 244 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 4: Right right, and he hadn't played any football since middle 245 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 4: of September. 246 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: Last year to think about what they did in the 247 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 2: opposite and then he had Kaylan Carson coming off, and 248 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: he got Josh Butler coming off injury too, So you 249 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: were hoping that Kayln Carson might be a factor here, 250 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: and he got it in training camp, in which you know, we. 251 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 5: Had a lot of hopes, Yeah, a lot, And then 252 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 5: you hope that Digs would be more. 253 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: And Diggs yeah, and Diggs wasn't. 254 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 5: I was hoping could step up. 255 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: And so the acquisition, I mean, are there Trade Act quisition? 256 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 2: Veteran acquisition that was going to help stem the tide 257 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: until Revel was ready. 258 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 4: He actually had a nice training. 259 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 5: Can I saw it. 260 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: That's why I was that kid of the stands, Kyrie. 261 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 2: He picked up that kid in the stands. There was 262 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 2: a highlight play and. 263 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 5: Remember I missed it. 264 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 4: I was the best catch he made yet where the 265 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 4: kids failed in the car. 266 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 2: No, no, it was like the interception and he went 267 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 2: and celebrated with thes and then grabbed a kid and 268 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: put him up in the air. 269 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 5: And now I'm shocked that we're as far as cornerback 270 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 5: is concerned. I knew that Trayvon Diggs was going to 271 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 5: be a great area because of the knee injury h 272 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 5: coming in, but look having to run Bland, Kyrie Elam 273 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 5: and now all the way down to Trequiz Bridges. You know, 274 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't think we would be that baron 275 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 5: at the cornerback position by this point in the season because, 276 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 5: like you said, Revel would have been healthy by now 277 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 5: and at least Diggs would have been. I didn't think 278 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 5: Diggs was going to be healthy enough to start the season. 279 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 5: That's just my personal opinion. Should have could have, but 280 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 5: it didn't. You know, he came in, he did his best, 281 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 5: and now he's on ir. But now we're just like 282 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 5: it's all hands on deck from every position in the secondary, 283 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 5: and my question is how do we help ourselves? And 284 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 5: my only thought process to that is, you know, your 285 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 5: front has to be better. You gotta get more pressure. 286 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 5: And I think coming into a game like this, mattiebrafluse 287 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 5: knew last week against Sunday against Denver that if I 288 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 5: can generate some pressure, maybe some of those guys missing 289 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 5: in the back, it won't be a bad barring something 290 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 5: that we all agreed on. The only thing we've probably 291 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 5: agreed on yesterday was we need more pressure. Spags talked about, 292 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 5: but it blitzes. 293 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: You know, I taught the pressure you gotta stop the 294 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: run first, and I'm hoping they're going to get in position, 295 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: But you talk about. 296 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 3: Playing the run on the way to the quarterback, blitz 297 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: might be the best way to do that because you're 298 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: not getting any more penetration regardless of otherwise. 299 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 5: So who you who? 300 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 4: You blitzing linebacker a safety and you're so scared of. 301 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: Getting beat deep? And what they what Ebers has been 302 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: doing early in the season was blitching the corner a lot, right, 303 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: going all the way back to the Eagles game where 304 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: coming out of the weather delay, it was a couple 305 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: of it had the Eagles backed up in their own 306 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: end of the field, and there was a couple of 307 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: corner blitzes. 308 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: And but he didn't just bring those blitzes out of nowhere. 309 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: You know, there's a reason. There was something that Philly 310 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: showed and he was able to study it. Yes, the 311 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: long weather delay, that film session while we're waiting on 312 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: the game to restart or four months and so you know, that's. 313 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 5: What Philly showed. 314 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: I think that was a unique deal because we have 315 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: a have we blitzed the corner since then? 316 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 5: Wow, that's a good question, I figure, Yeah, there was something. 317 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: There was something Philly September. They were they. 318 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 4: Blitzed Steward a couple of times off the corner. No, 319 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 4: off the slot. 320 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 3: Well that's see, that's not unique. Yeah, yeah, that's not 321 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: unique from the corner. 322 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 5: Well who's going to cover the guy? Then? Well, who 323 00:15:58,720 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 5: did they think about covering the guy? 324 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 4: That's the zoo's no more problem. 325 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: So you once again, you gotta be creative. You still 326 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: have to create pressure some kind of way. There's gonna 327 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: be a gamble. You're gonna have a gamble anyway, no 328 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: matter who you got back there. Of course, it's a 329 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: greater gam because of who we have and the inexpense 330 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: we have. But it's gonna give you a better chance 331 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: than just sitting back and saying, uh, do as you will, yeah. 332 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 5: See as you will. 333 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 4: Here here, this is indicative of what they think about 334 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 4: their defensive ends. Okay, Azeroku played thirty two of sixty 335 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 4: three snaps. Okay, if we're gonna look at the defensive ends, 336 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 4: Clowney got twenty five snaps, Foler twenty, Sam Williams seventeen, 337 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 4: and that was your starter, by the way, and then 338 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: you go all the way down to Houston thirteen snaps. 339 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: So none of these defensive ends have engaged to the 340 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 4: point that they're playing and the majority of the snaps. 341 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 5: Sam ain't right, Sam ain't right when you say that 342 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 5: with you, I. 343 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 6: Mean he's physically not physically, I don't think physically he's 344 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 6: ready because we saw a whole lot more than that 345 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 6: before he got injured, right, And he is not. 346 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: About what Schottenheimer said yesterday about the defensive ends and 347 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: shooting gaps and you know, as far as stunts, you mean, yeah, right, 348 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: And he was talking specifically. I think about the forty 349 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 2: yard run and where Okay, you're as a defensive end. 350 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 2: You're either dealing with that tight end or wide receiver 351 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: who's cracking down on you and you're either getting around 352 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: him set the edge or you're shooting the gap. And 353 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: on that one, I can't remember. 354 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 5: Who the end was. 355 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: Well, it was on the run, William Williams he was, Yeah, 356 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 2: and he was. But that wasn't the outside. 357 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 5: It wasn't the design of the defense. He should have 358 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 5: been setting the well, I don't know. 359 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if there was a It almost made 360 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: it sound like there's a choice. Uh maybe not on 361 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: that play that an end has to depending on leverage 362 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: and that short. 363 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 5: And that'll throw and those kind of things, Bill and 364 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 5: ever since you can you know, back me up on 365 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 5: this is that's you know, defense is all about trust. 366 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 5: If he's supposed to be setting the edge and the 367 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 5: guy coming behind you is taking the space that you 368 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 5: just left, and if you're going inside, then you got 369 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,239 Speaker 5: two guys in one in one hole and next thing, 370 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 5: you know, the whole on the outside. 371 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 3: So if it sounds like an option thing, it sound 372 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: like you were saying that he has a choice, uh. 373 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: Then on that play, but on certain plays then that. 374 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 5: Made the line backup would have to play off of. 375 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 4: Well, and what happened was there, I just wrote down 376 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 4: both corners got they were off. I mean they got 377 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 4: blocked and but. 378 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 5: I don't think they were considered part of the no. 379 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 4: But the one corner to William's side could have helped. 380 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 4: He got blocked down the field and then they had 381 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: an offensive lineman take out Murray, so no one held 382 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 4: him up, the offensive lineman and so now there's nobody 383 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 4: there until and James got blocked to. 384 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 3: And so that's what it is, because you know, you 385 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: don't depend on the corner just comes up for support, right, 386 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: you're talking about being involved in the force of it, 387 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 3: then that would be James because you know, backing up 388 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: the lineman. 389 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, what are the defensive tackles doing if 390 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 4: they're not in the flow of making a tackle. They're 391 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 4: not holding somebody up to prevent the linebackers. 392 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 5: And let's keep that lineman off of the linebacker. That 393 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 5: play was so bad on so many levels, but everybody involved. 394 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 5: I mean that's you know, you get Mazie gets reached 395 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 5: on that, I mean just so bad and he's just 396 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 5: walled off from the play. 397 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: That sab cracking on Sam. 398 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 5: And so Sam Williams takes inside. 399 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 2: And just able to get out to destroy the corner. 400 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 5: It's not even it's not even the lineman getting to 401 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 5: the second level. He got to the third level, and 402 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 5: so there was no deuss why it was the guy 403 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 5: was untouched. Basically by that time, it's it's bad. It's 404 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,719 Speaker 5: bad on bad And I don't know if Sam Williams 405 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 5: actually had an option to go, and I don't. I 406 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 5: don't know a defense that that would have it. 407 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 3: We've had a couple of players around here who had 408 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 3: injury previous season and wasn't really ready for the next season, 409 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: but then next season he's okay, I trust my knee 410 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: or leg or whatever issues he had. 411 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 5: That's the kind of thing that we're looking at. I 412 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 5: think with Sam he was hurt last season in camp, 413 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 5: right right first day camp, So I mean, I say 414 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 5: that just for all the time that he had to 415 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 5: rehabit and get back. That's you know, especially with Britt Brown, 416 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 5: and that's a lot of time. So I'm if Sam 417 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 5: Wims ain't right, he ain't shown He's definitely shown it. 418 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: But he's never been in this role either before. He's 419 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: always been a special pass rusher. He hasn't been a 420 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 2: starting defensive end that has to defend the run. 421 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 5: But setting the edge, it's something that should not be 422 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 5: foreign to Sam Williams. And I refuse to let him 423 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 5: off the hook for that. 424 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 4: But it is foreign to him. 425 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 5: It can't be. He didn't he was. 426 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 4: He was a pass rusher in college at Ole Miss, 427 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 4: And when I talked to my guys that fouled Old Miss, 428 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 4: they said, good pass rusher, but he's got to play 429 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 4: better against the run. And for two years he was 430 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: no more than a pass rusher, and they were counting 431 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 4: on him that next year to be the defensive end 432 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 4: and he got hurt. So when he hasn't played a 433 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 4: true defensive I got. 434 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 5: It till this year. But in Knoxnard and through preseason 435 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 5: and these first couple of games, his role has been 436 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 5: not just to rush the passes. So he hasn't been 437 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 5: a one trick exactly in that regard. 438 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: We gotta be able to be multitask guys, we just 439 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: have to be Then, I get it. He doesn't have experience. 440 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: You gotta do. You gotta learn that, you learn it. 441 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: You shouldn't have to be playing your defensive ends all 442 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: twenty snaps. I mean, you've got six defensive ends playing. 443 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 4: What confidence they have? 444 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: Right, He's got someone's got to emerge, so bo. 445 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 5: Nick says, kill kill, kill fifty four. 446 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: But it's not just for it's thirteen. 447 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 5: You gotta run that way. 448 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 4: Well, who else? 449 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 5: I'm just saying. If you put him on the field 450 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 5: and he's he's definitely a weakness in the running game. 451 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 5: That's where I'm going. If I'm an opposing offense, tell me. 452 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 2: A defensive Endell, tell me you should know that too, right, 453 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: tell me a defensive end on this roster. Who is 454 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 2: a strength in the run game? Right now? 455 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 5: Oh, that's no one, right, there's no one, matter which one. 456 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 5: It's not just for it. 457 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 3: He's gone, and he's got got players around him who 458 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: make adjustments, who can come in and do something different 459 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 3: instand just doing one thing. 460 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 5: He's on that particular defense. 461 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: This defense here, we seem to limit ourselves based on 462 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: our experiences and sometimes you gotta step outside the box. 463 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 5: And it seems like we need to be doing a 464 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 5: whole lot more of that. We need to be a 465 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 5: defense that. 466 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: Can switch assignments, change gears in so many ways, and 467 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 3: it has happened on so many teams bags. 468 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 5: I can't keep giving these guys those excuses up. Well, 469 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 5: I just can do this. I just can do that. 470 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 4: Although not giving an excuse, it's just the reason they're limited, 471 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 4: said yesterday. 472 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 5: They're limited. 473 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: They what they are. 474 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 4: There's no way around it. And here's the other part. 475 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 4: And Shottenheiman keeps talking about it to him, use your eyes, like, 476 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 4: don't just blindly at the snap of the ball. Okay, 477 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 4: I'm going to the quarterback. Let's see what's going on 478 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 4: from now. 479 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: He sounds like, right, I know, And that's exactly you know. 480 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: I went and looked at just to see what defensive 481 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 2: end is supposed to look like. I went and looked 482 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: at DeMarcus Lawrence. And the first play I called up, 483 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 2: I sent it to Mickey. The first play I caught up. 484 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 2: It was against the Texans last week. And it's a 485 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 2: tight end blocking him. And we've seen tight ends just 486 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: blocking Cowboys defensive ends this year like nobody's business. 487 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 5: Okay. 488 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: And DeMarcus has his hands on the shoulders of the 489 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: tight end and first he's trying to move him this way. 490 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: Can't he sets the edge that way, he doesn't make 491 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: the tackle. He didn't get credit for anything but a 492 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 2: defensive tackle or a linebacker. It was a three yard 493 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: game or something like that. I said, that's how you 494 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 2: want your damage it And then okay, so that was 495 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 2: a first down play, and then they did a good 496 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: enough job with their run defense at Seattle. Then on 497 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: third down he was able to pin his ears back 498 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: and go after the quarterback and he affected. It was 499 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: actually the other defensive end got the sack. But that's 500 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: how I mean, That's where I'm talking about that team 501 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 2: defense exactly right. 502 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: And so if you know team defense, regardless of whether 503 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: I have that experience or not, you still have to 504 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 3: understand what your where your defensive weakness is, what's your 505 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: priority is on that play. If I'm not good, it's 506 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: setting as n damn it, I better get I best 507 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 3: start practice. 508 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: And the biggest point on he wasn't trying to shoot 509 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: into the backfield at the snap, and that's what he 510 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: made and exactly made. 511 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 5: The offense have to make the adjustment. 512 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: We make the adjustment for the offense because we take 513 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 3: ourselves out of each. 514 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: And basically you're letting the tight end just drive you 515 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: wherever you want to go because you're taking yourself out 516 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: of the play. Jerry on the pass rushing group on 517 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: the radio this morning said, in terms of numbers, in 518 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: terms of players that can rush the passer, we've got 519 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: the best numbers that we've had. Was he asked about 520 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 2: run defense among the ushers. 521 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 4: He has said that forever that their number of passers. No, 522 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 4: they didn't say, well, what about stopping the run? And 523 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 4: here's how bad it was. They announced at the game, 524 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 4: or maybe it was on TV that that forty the 525 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 4: forty yard Yeah right? 526 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 2: Was it the forty yard run or was it the 527 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: eighteen yard run of the sixteen yard runner, the twelve 528 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 2: yard run or the ten yard run? Which one was? 529 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 5: You got check this page? 530 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta check it. 531 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 2: Phase. All I did is it's said that which one 532 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: of the six explosive runs ones? 533 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 4: It was the longest run since Denver had since twenty 534 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 4: twenty one. 535 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 2: Wow, okay, yeah, all right, And that was the longest 536 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: first segment we've had Sin's twenty twenty one. But it 537 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: was solid, big shots and much more to talk about 538 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: when we come back in a moment. Oh. 539 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 7: The National Medal of Honor Museum is now open in Arlington, Texas, 540 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 7: just a few blocks from AT and T. Stadium. 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Visit a pro shop near you a log 575 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 3: on to shop dot Dallascowboys dot com a fanatics experience. 576 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,239 Speaker 2: How much sleep did y'all get last night? 577 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 5: Not much? 578 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: Was there a sports reason for that? 579 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 580 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: Was there a sports reason for that? 581 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 5: You watched it all? I didn't watch it all. I 582 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 5: had to go and then you know. 583 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: I had it on, but I was, And it was 584 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: nearly two o'clock in the morning when it ended. 585 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 5: I was last soldier up my son like I can't. 586 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I worked I made a business decision. After fifteen innings, 587 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 4: I said, you know what, I'm going to tape the. 588 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 5: Rest of it. 589 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 4: That's without of bed, and I watched it in the 590 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 4: morning without knowing what happened. Oh really, okay, I watched 591 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 4: three solid innings. 592 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I watched it later on. 593 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: I was falling asleep on the couch. 594 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 5: And that's why I take it. 595 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 4: I turned my nap during the third quarter of the 596 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 4: football game. 597 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: Speaking of the football game, that nap. 598 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 4: Hey, hello, Dallas Cowboys second place. 599 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 5: Isn't that something? 600 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: M hm and uh hello, We're now less than a 601 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: month away from Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City's coming 602 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: here on that. 603 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 5: That's all I was say. 604 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 4: They were looking pretty good, weren't they. 605 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 3: Now when I look at this schedule way of shaping up, 606 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 3: my prediction is still kind of it's still applicable. 607 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 5: I said, we'd be about five hundred by the time 608 00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 5: we hit that stretch. 609 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: So they're three four and one right now. Okay, if 610 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: you can beat Arizona four four and one, got a 611 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: bye week, you're gonna win that week, and then you 612 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: get the Raiders the next week, so you can be 613 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: five four and one going into Philly. Philly is off 614 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: this week. They're six and two. They got the bye 615 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: week this week, then they are at Green Bay and 616 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: then they've got Detroit. Okay, so what do you think 617 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: Philly is going to be going into the Cowboys game? 618 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: They got at Green Bay and home against Detroit. Do 619 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: you think they probably split? They'll split those, so they'll 620 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: be seven and three. So if the Cowboys can I've 621 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: realized coming off a Sunday, it's hard to even imagine this, 622 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: but if the. 623 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 5: Cowboys optimism, if they can. 624 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: Put together a two game winning streak, which they haven't 625 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 2: done home against Arizona and at the Raiders, they would 626 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 2: be five four and one. 627 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 5: And then if I'm in the road, I want to 628 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 5: play the Raiders. 629 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: Can cure my rold You go all right, yeah, So 630 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: then they'd be five to four and one going into 631 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: the Eagles game. And if you beat the Eagles your 632 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: six four and one, And if the Eagles split those 633 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: two games against Green Bay in Detroit, they'd be seven 634 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 2: and four. It'd be seven and four, six four and one, 635 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 2: and then the Cowboys get to play Kansas City and 636 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: Detroit and whoever else. 637 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 4: So you're saying it's not over. 638 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 5: Yes, as before the stretch. That's all I'm saying. Must 639 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 5: win on Monday, must win on Monday, must win two 640 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 5: weeks from Monday. 641 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: I must win in Vegas, and then it's and then 642 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 2: then it's a must win against Philadelphia. Get ahead of ourselves. 643 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 4: It was a must win Sunday, it was, but they 644 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 4: did so it was the most. 645 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 5: Wait at Carolina the Chicago. Hey, come on, let's come on, 646 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 5: let's go. We can do this all night. 647 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 2: Okay, So that that's a little positivity there right there. 648 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 5: It is. 649 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: Now let me throw this at you. Throw this at you, 650 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: and this will take bring the room down. 651 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 5: All right. 652 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: Eagles are six and two. Yeah, the Cowboys are three 653 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: four and one. Okay, what do you think the Cowboys 654 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: have to get to to win the division? To win? 655 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 5: All right? Let me witch. 656 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 10: Okay, okay, but this way, if the Cowboys are going 657 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 10: to if the Cowboys are going to make the playoffs, 658 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 10: a better chance to do it by winning the division 659 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 10: or getting a wild card spot. 660 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 5: I don't think the East winning the division because you only. 661 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: Got to worry about one team. 662 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 3: Divisions are we have the record wise weakest division, right, 663 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 3: we have the weakest division according to record. 664 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 4: Definitely outside of Philadelphia, there's three teams with losing records, 665 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 4: and the division the other divisions. 666 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 3: Like like you know, because if you know, if we're 667 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 3: the weakest division, right, we just only one playoff. 668 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: Right, here's what you're looking to win the division? 669 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 5: Yes, here's what. 670 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: Here's what you're looking at. What here's what you're looking 671 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 2: at as far as a wild card goes. Okay, right now, 672 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: in the North, you've got Green Bay at five to 673 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: one and one Detroit at five and two. There's going 674 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 2: to be at least one wild card coming out of 675 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: the North, yes, okay. In Chicago's at four and three 676 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 2: and they already beat you. 677 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 5: Okay. 678 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: In the West, the Rams and the Seahawks are both 679 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 2: five and two, and the Niners are five and three, 680 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: So there's at least one wild card team, at least one, 681 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 2: that's what. Yeah. 682 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 5: And so. 683 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: In the South, you got it's Tampa Bay and nobody 684 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 2: and that's it. Yeah, I mean, Carolina's four. 685 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 5: And four and our division. 686 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: So let's just say the best chance to make the 687 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 2: playoffs is winning the division. 688 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 5: But not the only. 689 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the only, no doubt. But so the 690 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 2: best chance is winning the division, you need to say. 691 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: So Philadelphia sitting there at six and two right now, 692 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 2: So what would the Cowboys have? What would realistically what 693 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 2: do the Cowboys have to get to to win the division? 694 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 2: Nine nine seven and one? This is where the tie 695 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 2: comes in. Okay, nine seven and one, and that means 696 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 2: the Eagles would have to go what I'm talking about, 697 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 2: they would have to go three and six in their 698 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: last That's why I said, what I've started to bring 699 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 2: this up. Let's let's me, let's be let me bring the. 700 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 5: Well, well that's what Wistock's again, that's the. 701 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 4: Drug hook at Philly, cook at Philly. Remaining games. Okay, 702 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 4: number one boys. So they have a stretch like we 703 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 4: have a right exactly, and it should be harder because 704 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 4: they got the first place schedule. 705 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 2: All right, Like I said, they play at Green Bay 706 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: and then they got Detroit and at Dallas, then they 707 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 2: play Chicago, then they're at the Chargers home against Vegas, 708 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 2: at Washington at Buffalo. Okay, in Washington. 709 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 4: Well it's not as hard as I thought. 710 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: Well, they've already they played them. Yeah, yeah, they already 711 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 2: beat Kansas City and they beat Tampa Bay. They lost 712 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: to Denver twenty one seventeen and Minnesota is not. 713 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 8: What we do. 714 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 5: When'd you say they played Detroit next game, it's. 715 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 2: The week before Dallas, they play at Green Bay. They're 716 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 2: they're off this week at Bay, Detroit and then at Dallas. 717 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 4: Let's look at it this way. They've the Cowboys get 718 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 4: three division games left, right, got to play everybody one 719 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 4: more time. They got to win all three of them. 720 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: So basically, so where are the six lossess coming? That 721 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 2: can happen if the if the Eagles need to come 722 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 2: out of this by they need to go to Cowbo 723 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 2: and they just need to chill out only by and 724 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 2: the Cowboys handing their third straight. 725 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 3: The Cowboys will fall back on like that, taking a 726 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 3: vacation during off week. 727 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 2: Anyway, So there was some positive half full and half 728 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 2: empty there. 729 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 5: That's a little bit off. Yeah, you need them to 730 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 5: bottom out, I mean the three and six. 731 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 2: And they did two years ago. They bottomed out, of. 732 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 5: Course, I mean injuries, all of those things that we've 733 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 5: seen it happen, I could happen, Yeah, but you don't. 734 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, we as professionals here, you know, we 735 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 3: never want to depend on someone else's failure. 736 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 5: No, you know, of course not it happens. It still happens, 737 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 5: of course. 738 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 4: Of the NFL helps those who helped them sell. 739 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 2: Just remember that, all right. She brought it up when 740 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 2: they fell apart two years ago. Yes, okay, and the 741 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: Cowboys won the division. Okay. The Eagles were ten and 742 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 2: one coming out of Thanksgiving Week and then they wound 743 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 2: up eleven and seven. They lost six of their last 744 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 2: seven games. 745 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 5: Theme. I like that, Bill. I like that, Bill. When 746 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 5: you go to your pad over there and you come 747 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 5: up with information like that, I like that. I'll tell 748 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 5: you that's hope. Though he went in. I like that, Hope. 749 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 4: So you know what if they if that year they 750 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 4: were a college team, he'd have got fired. 751 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, oh yeah, that's well. They were talking about it. 752 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 2: Then they came out. 753 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 5: There had to be some catastrophic thing. Hurts got hurt. Yeah. 754 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 5: I think he hurt his knee or his ankle. He 755 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 5: was no good. 756 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 2: They didn't have Barkley either, But Barkley has a history 757 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 2: of getting hurt too. In fact, he got hurt the 758 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 2: other day. He's just not long term. 759 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 5: But it kind of feels like Barkley's got his groove back. 760 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 5: You know, you saw that the other day I'm really 761 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 5: I am really shocked watching the game on Monday, how 762 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 5: bad the Commanders are looking right now. I know they 763 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 5: didn't have the quarterback and all, but defensively think they 764 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 5: would about. 765 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 2: You know, what they were doing last night that it's 766 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 2: going to be interesting what they do at the trade 767 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 2: deadline because they need a pass rusher. They were playing 768 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 2: Frankie Louvu and he has been a pass rusher at times, yes, 769 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 2: primarily a linebacker, off ball linebacker, but it's like Quinn 770 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: is thinking about using him like a Michael Parsons. He 771 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 2: was playing. He played almost exclusively as a defensive end. 772 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 2: In last night's game against the Chiefs. They had Jordan McGee, 773 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 2: who doesn't normally play, playing alongside Bobby Wagner at the 774 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 2: off ball linebacker and Louvu was playing defensive end. And 775 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 2: the reason why it's because they lost Storren's armstrong last week. Yeah, 776 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 2: the fourth game, fourth play of the game against Dallas, 777 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 2: and so they and they had signed Preston Smith, he 778 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 2: was there Jadavian Clowney signing and he only had like 779 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 2: eight or ten snaps last night, and so they were 780 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 2: going with Luvu instead, and so they're hurting right now. 781 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 5: On defense, Well, you saw green Bay. 782 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 3: Not to get too far off the subject, but green 783 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 3: Bay started using Michael off the ball, and that was consistent, 784 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 3: and it was consistently giving them problem. Now you're able 785 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 3: to do that with Michael because you had another to 786 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 3: do it over here. I forget his name, but the 787 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 3: other pass rusher over there. That gave him a chance 788 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 3: to free up and make some plays. 789 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,439 Speaker 5: When you got so like, green Bay has so many 790 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 5: guys that Micah is the piece that really just like 791 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 5: sets them over. And when they knew that when they 792 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 5: got yeah, but for sure, but when you get when 793 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 5: you get a piece like that, and you said, Dan 794 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 5: Queen was doing the same thing and you're moving him 795 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 5: all around. I could put him at the middle lineback, 796 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 5: I can put him at the head. The defensive end's. 797 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 2: Name Rashan Gary Gary. 798 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they freed him out because you know, he 799 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:06,919 Speaker 5: had a running start. 800 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 3: Michael had a running start and so everybody's over here 801 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 3: and it definitely freed him up there. 802 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 4: He should have been a linebacker all the time we 803 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 4: talked about that's what he was at Penn stateon that's 804 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 4: what caught and that's. 805 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 5: What they're using them for that's the way they use 806 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 5: the strimmage. 807 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 2: He can get controlled because you know, uh Gary Rashaan 808 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 2: Gary hate seven and a half sacks last year and 809 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 2: he's already up to five and a half this year 810 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 2: and Mike. 811 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 5: Is at six and a half. 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What position group? 856 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 2: Exactly what? 857 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 5: That's what? 858 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 2: That's what you're asking, right? Which position group on defense 859 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 2: needs something added to it? Well, you understand all of 860 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 2: them do, but which we won. 861 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 5: The It's top priority, guys, D Line. 862 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 3: I mean, anytime you get pressure up front, it changes 863 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 3: the whole game. When we played well, Uh was the 864 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 3: team we just beat at home? Defensive defensive front front 865 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 3: seven commanders played well? They played well and it made 866 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 3: our game a lot easier. 867 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 2: You'd like that, well, I can't say name, never never 868 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 2: mind not the fact the guy I always going to 869 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 2: mention would not be a guy on the trade block, 870 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 2: but you were impressed with him on Sunday, D Line. 871 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 2: But the other issue for me is, okay, when is 872 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 2: this secondary going to get healthy? And I've just passed 873 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,439 Speaker 2: over the linebackers because I'm hoping overshow and can play 874 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 2: whenever he gets back. 875 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 5: What do you think? No, that's a big spoon of hoping. 876 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 10: Um. 877 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 5: I like that, and don't know for real when it 878 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 5: comes down to overshown because we don't know, right and 879 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 5: if he can't come back and be a tenth of 880 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 5: who he is as a player, man, that would be 881 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 5: good based off of what we've seen from my linebackers. 882 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 5: But now I'm going the same direction. I think a 883 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 5: defensive line we were talking about stopping the run and 884 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 5: it starts up front. If we can't stop the run, 885 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 5: then it doesn't matter about all of those the scenarios 886 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 5: that you just went through, because if Arizona comes in 887 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 5: here and they run the ball on this, I mean 888 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 5: it's literally going to be a repeat of everything that 889 00:44:54,320 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 5: we've seen so our best defensive game, which one was it? Yeah, 890 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 5: there you go. 891 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 4: But even if you just looked at the numbers, they 892 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 4: rushed for one hundred yards. 893 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 2: See scary Terry last night. He looks like he's in 894 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 2: season form after and it got it. Hey, he didn't 895 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 2: play in that game. He didn't play, Devo didn't play, 896 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 2: Angels only played a half. 897 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 10: Noah Brown didn't play, so was our best devins They 898 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 10: only gave up twenty you know what's the best defense. 899 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 5: No, it wasn't that. 900 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 2: It was the last part of the Eagles game. Well 901 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 2: I was gonna say not the first part because they 902 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 2: were scoring it about. 903 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 5: The fourth quarter. But well, let's think about it. Though. 904 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 5: Even with the Eagles game, the score did not depict 905 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,280 Speaker 5: the disaster. 906 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 3: Right we we held the score down and that to me, 907 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 3: that's what matters that you can Yeah, at this point 908 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 3: we have the best case scenario is ben but don't break. 909 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 5: That's our best case scenario. And that was what we 910 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 5: did against Philadelphia. 911 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 4: Six six, Six of the eight opponents have rushed for 912 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 4: at least one hundred and thirty six yards. 913 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 5: So and it depends on when that those rusting yards come. 914 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,320 Speaker 4: Well, Carolinas came the whole four quarters. 915 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, we're six and you're right there messing up point 916 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 11: because on Washington, Cowboys did a good job defending the 917 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 11: running back running game, and a lot of those yards 918 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 11: were quarterback runs. 919 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 5: And that's in ketchup mode. That dr ketchup so hard. 920 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 5: It's so hard to use Washington because the running game 921 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 5: was all they had and we were not. And it 922 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 5: was a pairent from the first quarter that they had 923 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,240 Speaker 5: nothing else on the outside but the tight ends. 924 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 4: And they still ran for one hundred and thirty six yards. 925 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, half of that they were to catch up. 926 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 2: Half of that was quarter. 927 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's all I'm saying. It depends when those 928 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 5: yards occurred. 929 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 4: And this week they get a quarterback who doesn't mind 930 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 4: pulling the ball down. 931 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 2: And Kyler Murray's been out the last couple of games, 932 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 2: and but coming off of bye week Arizona is what 933 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 2: was his first to be back. I can't remember. 934 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm just saying, like, if it's lower body, he is. 935 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 5: But that's He's the one. He is the one player 936 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 5: that I'm telling you, he's the one guy that I 937 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 5: just it don't matter. I mean, watching it from high school, 938 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 5: everybody's saying, this guy is a Leprecaun out there. 939 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 3: He is running by people throwing the ball off him. 940 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 3: You can bring the bet you brought the brothers over 941 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 3: there from the solo. Oh, he didn't play against them, brothers, 942 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 3: he didn't play against them. 943 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 5: That's all I need to what you say, Bill, he 944 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 5: had lost to a T and T. 945 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he's now lost. I don't think he 946 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 2: had a foot injury. 947 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 5: That's what he had, a foot injury. 948 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 2: That's what he's been dealing with. And Jacoby Brissett started 949 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 2: the last couple of games for him, and they're row 950 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 2: and two set. 951 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,479 Speaker 5: So well, wait to get to that rundown, guys. 952 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 2: Thanks Bill, Well, oh, it's already twelve forty eight, so. 953 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 5: We're not moving on. Don't even thanks bill'na. 954 00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk on tomorrow. 955 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 5: Sure, but he's got put in the rundown. Otherwise, when did. 956 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 4: He get in He got in the league in what year? 957 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 2: Nineteen nineteen? 958 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 4: Right, So the Cowboys played him in twenty and twenty 959 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 4: two here and got beat both times. 960 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 2: There you go, So he's he's like ten and zer 961 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 2: no telling how many high school games he played here. 962 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 2: He won a big twelve championship game here too. 963 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 5: All right, there's so much for the optimism, right, took 964 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 5: us up high. That's what I hope he does. 965 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,919 Speaker 2: We'll try to bring hope back tomorrow at high noon 966 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,760 Speaker 2: here on mix Shot OK Boys. 967 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 968 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,760 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.