WEBVTT - Jayden Daniels Prepares for Debut vs. Bucs, and Which Players Need a BIG Game for a Week 1 Win | The Beatdown Podcast | Washington Commanders | NFL

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<v Speaker 1>If New Vergine new Quarterbacks in the building. A new

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<v Speaker 1>podcast is hitting the Washington Commanders podcast network. What's going on, y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>I am Zach Selby, senior writer for the Washington Commanders,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the Beatdown where we do one thing

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<v Speaker 1>sports fans love to do, argue and like to pretend

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<v Speaker 1>which one of us is right with me?

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<v Speaker 2>Is?

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<v Speaker 1>David Harrison and Lake Lewis Junior, they cover, They cover

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<v Speaker 1>the beat for us for the Commanders and guys like

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<v Speaker 1>y'all the first first guests on this podcast, how a

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<v Speaker 1>were feeling right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Feel special?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Big love? Yeah, Man, appreciate it. Should it should be

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking forward to uh to handing Lake and old

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<v Speaker 4>fashioned big ten style beat down.

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<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it, okay, love love the trash shock.

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<v Speaker 2>I love hearing it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, just within like five seconds, y'all already had

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<v Speaker 1>each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you bought a ringer in man.

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<v Speaker 3>David covered the bucks before, so he's a ringer.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like I play that out almost. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>you give too much credit, but I feel like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that was in the cards. So I'll give you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of what I expect out of this podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't given me too much. So we're gonna answer

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<v Speaker 1>three questions over the course of the next thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all gonna each present your cases, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>provide some points sort of like around the horn, but

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<v Speaker 1>almost like who's on it anyway, where the point doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily matter how much Bay. It's my podcast. I can

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<v Speaker 1>decide who's right and who's wrong. Right, So, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna focus on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers since it

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<v Speaker 1>is our Week one opponent. And guys, if you're ready,

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<v Speaker 1>we can go ahead and get started.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll start.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of new stuff that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be happening with the Commanders this this this weekend, new defense,

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<v Speaker 1>new offense. But we're gonna talk specifically to starting with

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<v Speaker 1>the defense here, and the Tampa Bay offense led by

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<v Speaker 1>Baker may Field kind of came on there near at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the year with canals there as the

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<v Speaker 1>off the cordior now obviously the head coach of the

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina Panthers, but there's going to be you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>playoff team on the other sideline there for the Commander's defense, Lake,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll start with you, what do you think is the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest challenge is commander defense, which really struggled last year

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<v Speaker 1>but seems to be a little bit on the up.

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<v Speaker 1>So based on what we've seen in training camp, what

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be their biggest challenge heading against the Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>Bay offense. I'll give you two minutes to respond, starting

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<v Speaker 1>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, the biggest challenge for Washington obviously is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a guy that I think is a Hall of

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<v Speaker 3>Fame player in Mike Evans. You know, if you look

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<v Speaker 3>at what Mike Evans has done against Washington and five

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<v Speaker 3>career games, you know, including a playoff game, he has

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six receptions for over six hundred yards. So he's

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<v Speaker 3>a guy that obviously is a focal point for the

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<v Speaker 3>Buccaneers offense. Baker Mayfield looked for him quite a bit

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<v Speaker 3>last year. So Washington's gonna have their hands you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know full with him. You know, he's averaging one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and twenty one yards a game against Washington. It

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<v Speaker 3>has four touchdowns, so again, you know, possession god. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>at the same time he moves to chains for the Bucks,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know who's going to cover him. Is it

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<v Speaker 3>going to be you know, Emmanuel Forbes, Is it going

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<v Speaker 3>to be you know, Benji Saint Juice. Well, whoever's going

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<v Speaker 3>to cover him is going to have to do a

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<v Speaker 3>good job and get some safety help on top of that.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I think the other thing is is that

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Godwin, you know, and I need not say where

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<v Speaker 3>he went to school, David Harrison, but Chris Godwin's a

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<v Speaker 3>guy that's going to be, you know, eating underneath, which

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<v Speaker 3>he always does. And it's going to be interesting to

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<v Speaker 3>see how Mikey Sanders, still you know, rookie from Michigan,

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<v Speaker 3>can fare against the Chris Godwin because I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be on him quite a bit underneath. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think that those are going to be the focal

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<v Speaker 3>points of the game. I don't see Tampa running the

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<v Speaker 3>football too effectively against Washington. I think that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a strength of Washington is the run, their run defense,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I'm not sure for Sea White, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>has a big game in store for Tampa as far

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<v Speaker 3>as the run game. So I think if Washington can

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<v Speaker 3>take those two guys out on the on the edges

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<v Speaker 3>on the outside and god Winning Evans, they have a

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<v Speaker 3>great chance to win this football game.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you bring up Mike Evans, and that's an

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<v Speaker 1>excellent point because Mike Evans has been in the league

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<v Speaker 1>for ten years now, going into eleventh. How many one

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<v Speaker 1>thousand yard seasons he's had in his career? Ten Like

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<v Speaker 1>every single game hit up a thousand yards and last

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<v Speaker 1>year he had twelve hundred and fifty five, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most productive of his career. Actually, not David your

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<v Speaker 1>response to that, because he did bring up the receiving

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<v Speaker 1>game for Tampa Bay, which is a pretty good point,

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<v Speaker 1>and that seemed like to be their bigges strength on

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay offense.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know that that's certainly a good place to start,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think Mike Evans obviously deserves all his flowers

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<v Speaker 4>and he's going to be a big part of this contest.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm actually going to take something that Lake said

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<v Speaker 4>and kind of expand on it because I think Lake,

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<v Speaker 4>you were close to hitting the target. Unfortunately I got

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<v Speaker 4>a zero in just a little bit better. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>a Chris Godwin slot match up with Mike Sanders. Still

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<v Speaker 4>like Mike Sandersoll has done a lot since he's joined

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<v Speaker 4>the Washington Commanders, and gotten in to the NFL obviously

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<v Speaker 4>in a short period of time to really impress a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people. Right, very mature, very skilled player, always

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<v Speaker 4>around the ball, never looks to be out of position.

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<v Speaker 4>But there are just some things in this game that

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<v Speaker 4>you can't scheme for and you can't you know, mentally,

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<v Speaker 4>just be in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Right place to do. And that's a size difference.

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<v Speaker 4>And Chris Godwin is significantly taller than Mike Sanders. Still

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<v Speaker 4>now Mike sanderstill plays bigger, and certainly that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be a part of this. But the question is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be how much can the Washington Commarors defense leave

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Godwin in the slot alone against Mike Sanders or

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<v Speaker 4>how much do they have to give him help because

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<v Speaker 4>of that size deficiency. It's not, you know, there's no

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<v Speaker 4>skilled deficiency. They're involved, but the more that this commander's

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<v Speaker 4>defense has to kind of shrink into the middle of

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<v Speaker 4>the field to cover that, And then also how that

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<v Speaker 4>opens up opportunities for Kate Otten, who's not a Rob Gronkowski,

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<v Speaker 4>right but certainly capable in his own right. And then

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<v Speaker 4>the trickle down economics of that is that could potentially

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<v Speaker 4>to your point, like create opportunities for a guy like

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<v Speaker 4>Rashad White or even Bucky Rein, the rookie quarter running

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<v Speaker 4>back out of Oregon in Sampa who's made a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of plays in the preseason. Like all of that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of how it trickles down to each other, it all

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<v Speaker 4>starts with Mike Sandersil.

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<v Speaker 2>If Mike sanders So can hold his.

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<v Speaker 4>Own against Chris Godwin, which I think he certainly has

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<v Speaker 4>the capability of. It is just that veteran craftiness and

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<v Speaker 4>size according or compared to that rookie size and lack

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<v Speaker 4>of experience is going to weigh big.

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<v Speaker 2>And if Mike wins that matchup, it really.

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<v Speaker 4>Opens up the commander's defense to be more creative, more aggressive,

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<v Speaker 4>and have more opportunities, maybe go over there and put

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<v Speaker 4>more guys over Mike Evans to keep him from doing

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<v Speaker 4>all the damage on the perimeter.

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<v Speaker 2>But the tighter they have to shrink.

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<v Speaker 4>In to help out that inside competition again underneath of

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<v Speaker 4>the running backs. Over top of that on short routes

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<v Speaker 4>by Chris two guys like Kate Kate out and over

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<v Speaker 4>the middle, it's going to be problematic if they can't

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<v Speaker 4>win that matchup with their with their organic design.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, we'll with zero in on Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Sanmersol for a minute because this guy really seems like

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<v Speaker 1>already one of one of the one of the Commander's

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<v Speaker 1>best cornerbacks, just just based on what we've seen in

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<v Speaker 1>training him so far. Yeah, he's a little bit smaller,

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<v Speaker 1>but he already plays like a veteran. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many times during the preseason where it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's really already already in such good, good positions.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm thinking of that play against the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>where there was like almost like end around a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit and then santam SiO was right there, uh to

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<v Speaker 1>help love and make the tackle. Now, now, Lake, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you a minute to respond to that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think we'll focus in on the corners because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you mentioned the passing game, but like, do you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like what what this was committed passing defense? Whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the worst and it was the worst

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<v Speaker 1>in the league, I as you know, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>last in the league and yards allowed, So how does

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<v Speaker 1>Mike sammer still maybe like give you a little more

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in what they're gonna see based on you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>how he formed up the last month or so.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, I think David hit on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's a it's a great point, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>as far as you know, and he showed my Penn

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<v Speaker 3>State got some love you know on Godwin. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's you know, we know he had an injury, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>two years ago, you know, so he should be even

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<v Speaker 3>better now coming back from that. You know, that second

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<v Speaker 3>year back from those type of injuries, you get better.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do I think that, you know, I agree

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<v Speaker 3>with David that samram Is still is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a key proponent to what this defense can ultimately do,

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<v Speaker 3>not just you know, you know Sunday, but going forward.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if he can lock down the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>the field, you still have guys behind him, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and a Kawan Martin and a Jeremy Chen, guys that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, versatile type players that can move closer to

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<v Speaker 3>the box, even if they have to go back sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>and play a cover too. They can do those things.

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<v Speaker 3>So I do think that that is important. But again,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I still greave what I say as far

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<v Speaker 3>as just Mike Evans. He's torched Washington over the years,

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<v Speaker 3>He's torched a lot of teams, but specifically, the commanders

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<v Speaker 3>have struggled with him, you know, as far as just

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<v Speaker 3>you know, bottling him up. And I think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Baker Mayfield is going to look for the guy. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>why wouldn't you look for a potential Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Uh, He's going to look for him. The

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<v Speaker 3>other thing I would say, guys, is a pass rush.

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<v Speaker 3>Washington has to get a pass rush. They have to

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<v Speaker 3>make Baker feel uncomfortable because one thing about Baker Mayfield,

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<v Speaker 3>he's the confidence quarterback. When he's feeling good, he actually

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<v Speaker 3>is good, you know. But but if he has some

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<v Speaker 3>heat on him, you know, sometimes he can put some

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<v Speaker 3>things up for grabs. And that's where you know, Washington's

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<v Speaker 3>corners and safeties might have some opportunities to jump on

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<v Speaker 3>some passes and you know, some routes and get some

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<v Speaker 3>interceptions out of that and turn the football over, something

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<v Speaker 3>Washington's defense has not done over the years. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the reasons why Joe Whitt was brought in

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<v Speaker 3>by Dan Quinn, you know, because his defenses in Dallas,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, created lots of turnovers and that's what they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna need. So again, I do think sanmrums still is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the top two or three components for Sunday's

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<v Speaker 3>game as far as him covering Chris Godwin in the slot.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also think again, whoever's going to be on

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Evans is going to have to have one of

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<v Speaker 3>those one of those coming out games to signal that

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<v Speaker 3>they can be a first first rate corner in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>And then obviously pass rush if they can get a

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<v Speaker 3>pass rush. You know, now we're talking and not just

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<v Speaker 3>straight here. But another thing that's going to be key

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<v Speaker 3>too is that this revamped linebacker room Frankie Louvu, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Bobby Wagner of course, and then whoever else is out

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<v Speaker 3>there with them. You know, I think that they can

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<v Speaker 3>control the middle portion of a field as well, which

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<v Speaker 3>also could help Mikey Sanders still, you know, as far

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<v Speaker 3>as kind of like you know, putting you know, Chris

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<v Speaker 3>Godwin and in certain areas of the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, So if they can ship them and do

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<v Speaker 3>things like that, that'll be integral as far as their success.

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<v Speaker 1>David real Quick responded to before we move on, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, league where I brought with the pass rush,

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<v Speaker 1>and this team really just struggled in terms of generating sacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Once Chase young Monte's foot, we're out of here. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they had forty backs the bottom third of the league.

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<v Speaker 1>So and you know that, you know this, this Buccaneers

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<v Speaker 1>top of the line probably better than anyone on the beat.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me, like, how do you think this is

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<v Speaker 1>really gonna fare against this Buccaneers off of the blind?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know the Bucks offensive line is they've got

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<v Speaker 4>good amount of talent. I mean, they're left tackles, all

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<v Speaker 4>Pro caliber, Pro Bowl caliber, Tristan Wurz, Like, that's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be kind of a spot where you just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>go into this game. I think, can you understand We're

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna win a lot here against this dude. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's more so how do we get around him?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what games do we.

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<v Speaker 4>Play to occupy him so we can get somebody behind him,

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<v Speaker 4>or getting inside leverage against him so that he just

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<v Speaker 4>can't elevate against and then take advantage of that lesser

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<v Speaker 4>experienced interior offensive line where they've got a rookie center

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<v Speaker 4>getting ready to make his first NFL start. I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's where Deron Payne and John Allen are really going

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to make a difference. And for fans

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<v Speaker 4>of the Commanders, like they're a little bit concerned about

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<v Speaker 4>this path rush because in the preseason, you know that

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<v Speaker 4>Jami and Davis had the strip sack and that's great,

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<v Speaker 4>but like not a whole lot of generated pressure compared

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<v Speaker 4>to why I think fans have been expecting. But they

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<v Speaker 4>also haven't seen Bobby Wagner, John Allen, Deron Payne.

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<v Speaker 2>On the field all the same time.

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<v Speaker 4>But we've seen them in the joint practice, right and

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<v Speaker 4>against the New York Jets, against the Miami doll and

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<v Speaker 4>those joint practices, they were getting after it and they

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<v Speaker 4>were getting pressure. And so I think you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>see a little bit more of that than maybe fans

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<v Speaker 4>have seen in the preseason, and certainly that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be huge because to Lake's point, like a guy like

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<v Speaker 4>Baker Mayfield actually asked Emmanuel Forbes about this on Wednesday, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a dude who loves to take shots. He loves

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<v Speaker 4>to take risks, but he also loves to toy with corners.

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<v Speaker 4>He wants to give you a look to make you

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<v Speaker 4>think something's happened, almost like the quarterback running a double move,

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<v Speaker 4>like the receiver may just be running a straight up route,

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<v Speaker 4>but the quarterback almost is going to give you a

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<v Speaker 4>double move, especially if he knows you're watching him. Baker

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<v Speaker 4>Mayfield loves a toy with people's minds. I remember him

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<v Speaker 4>playing the flag you know, in Columbus, Ohio. He he

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<v Speaker 4>loves to play those games. So that's absolutely going to

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<v Speaker 4>be an impact here. But yeah, that commander's pass rush

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<v Speaker 4>against this. This Buccaneer's offensive line very highly untested in

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<v Speaker 4>its current alignment, and with Joey Junior and his creativity,

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<v Speaker 4>potentially could wreak some havoc. But I think something both

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<v Speaker 4>sides of this cause this contest have to their benefit

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<v Speaker 4>is they're both practicing against defense coordinators I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>for being insanely creative and insanely aggressive. So they're actually

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<v Speaker 4>both kind of coming in against defenses that they've already

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<v Speaker 4>been training against all training team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you're right. I mean, Baker Mayfield had the

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<v Speaker 1>best year of his career last year. We'll see if

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually going to be a blip and more of

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<v Speaker 1>a trend for what he's gonna have for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of his career in the NFL. So we're gonna move

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<v Speaker 1>on to the next question, but I will give you

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a score update. It's really close

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<v Speaker 1>between you two, but it looks like David is head

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<v Speaker 1>by one point. Let's go like he got a little

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<v Speaker 1>chance to gain some ground here. The second question is

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<v Speaker 1>we've all seen what Jane Daniels has done over the

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<v Speaker 1>last month, right, He's looked more so, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>he's a player beyond his year in terms of his poise,

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<v Speaker 1>his commandity, offense, his knowledge. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be a rookie going into its first

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<v Speaker 1>a real live NFL game against a Deemster Cordner who

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<v Speaker 1>loves to bring pressure, really experienced play caller. So question

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<v Speaker 1>we'll start We'll start with David this time is what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that if Kingsbury can do to protect

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<v Speaker 1>Jayden Daniels and try to get the most out of

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<v Speaker 1>his skill set.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you got to do something that I've been

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<v Speaker 4>asking offensive coordinators to do on this team since I

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<v Speaker 4>started covering this team.

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<v Speaker 2>Zech move the pocket. You drafted Jade Daniels.

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<v Speaker 4>More so than anything like that, the biggest discriminator between

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<v Speaker 4>Jade and Daniels and the other quarterbacks available to this team.

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<v Speaker 2>Were was his athletic ability.

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<v Speaker 4>And his decision making. Those are the two things that

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<v Speaker 4>separated himself. Like when you look at Drake May and

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<v Speaker 4>you look at Jayden Daniels, and I don't mean.

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<v Speaker 2>To disparage Drake.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope he has a great career, all that good stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>But when you look at the two, Jade and Daniels

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<v Speaker 4>clearly the superior athlete compared to Drake May. Both of

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<v Speaker 4>these guys put the ball everywhere on the field, everywhere

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<v Speaker 4>you need them too.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the decision making.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is where I say, I apologize any Drake

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<v Speaker 4>May fans out there, but there's a moment in his

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<v Speaker 4>tape and it's not the only moment, it's the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>moment in his tape where North Carolina's got a first

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<v Speaker 4>and goal.

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<v Speaker 2>Or they're in goal to go.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't remember his first now, but they're in goal

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<v Speaker 4>to go situation. They're lined up heavy and they're miss

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<v Speaker 4>their right tackle and Drake May snaps the ball while

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<v Speaker 4>his right tackles trying to run onto the field behind him,

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't realize he's short alignment in a big set. That's

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<v Speaker 4>a problem we saw in the preseason game. How many

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<v Speaker 4>illegal formation penalties they had while Drake and May was in there.

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<v Speaker 4>That's something you need your quarterback to do. Jayden Daniels

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<v Speaker 4>better at that. He's also the better athlete. Use those

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<v Speaker 4>advantages to your advantage. Here at Stampa Bay Buccaneers, their

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<v Speaker 4>pass rush is really interesting right now because all the

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<v Speaker 4>dynamic ability they did have where they're making their Super

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<v Speaker 4>Bowl run and even trying to make their follow on

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<v Speaker 4>runs a couple of years ago, a lot of that

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<v Speaker 4>is kind of gone right now. Their best pass rusher

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<v Speaker 4>on the edge off the defensive line is yah YadA Yadi.

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<v Speaker 4>He's had a really good season last year, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of potential, but he is not ready to be that

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<v Speaker 4>main pass rusher for an NFL defense. I don't believe.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe Hope surprised me. But on the opposite side outside lineback,

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<v Speaker 4>you had Joe Tryon.

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<v Speaker 2>Schuenka, who a lot of people think is basically.

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<v Speaker 4>On his way out of tamp after not proving himself

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<v Speaker 4>after being such a high round draft pick.

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<v Speaker 2>So, if I'm Cliff Kingsbury, ya Yadadadi's.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly the guy, and he's gonna be going up against

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<v Speaker 4>rookie left tackle Brandon Coleman if he can go this weekend,

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<v Speaker 4>or Cornelius Lucas the backup.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of if I have a biggest.

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<v Speaker 4>Concern in the outside linebacker realm, that's gonna be the

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<v Speaker 4>guy roll the pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>To the right. Just so happens.

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<v Speaker 4>That's probably James Daniels the most comfortable side to roll

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<v Speaker 4>to anyway. And you put Joe Tryon Shunka in very

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<v Speaker 4>problematic situations where he's got to make a decision. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>either gonna run with the super athletic quarterback ort and

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<v Speaker 4>leave potentially a tight end or running back or a

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<v Speaker 4>crossing wide receiver open behind me, or I'm gonna try

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<v Speaker 4>to stay in my coverage assignment and the I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>watch Jadan Daniels skirt up the sideline.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, that is an.

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<v Speaker 4>Opportunity rich advantage at this commander's team has, and this

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<v Speaker 4>offensive line that hasn't gotten any active reps against or

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<v Speaker 4>against a live opponent, and they're in they're organic starting five. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>if Brandon can go this weekend, that helps them because

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<v Speaker 4>you make that defense run, you make them get, you

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<v Speaker 4>tire them out, and again ya ya yabi, like the

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<v Speaker 4>more he runs, the less effective he's gonna be as

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<v Speaker 4>the game goes on. So I think that, to me,

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<v Speaker 4>is the biggest way you protect Jayme and Daniels.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad you brought up the pocket movement because

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that Washington didn't really do all that much

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<v Speaker 1>at all last year because when we knew that the

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<v Speaker 1>same show wasn't necessarily the scrambler that some of these

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<v Speaker 1>other quarterbacks. But he did have some mobility to him.

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<v Speaker 1>He seemed like he's doing his best whenever he was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of getting out of the pockets, scrambling away from

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure that seemed to always be coming at him

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<v Speaker 1>on the middle. But but Lake, I'll throw this to you, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, is it as simple as that is? Its

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<v Speaker 1>simple as letting Jaden get out there and run with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people are really hesitating about him him sliding and

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<v Speaker 1>getting out there and avoiding contact, But like, is it

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<v Speaker 1>really as simple as just getting him out of the

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<v Speaker 1>pocket and letting him do what he does best with

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<v Speaker 1>his legs or there's something more to it thin that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean I think then that's the that's the

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<v Speaker 3>irony to this, And I agree with David one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>percent that you know, the pocket didn't move at all

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<v Speaker 3>in the past. Well, I mean if it moved, it

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<v Speaker 3>was going backwards. So you know, now, I just think

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<v Speaker 3>that you have to let Jaden be himself, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not overthink this, not you know, situations that he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be comfortable with. If he spoke to you know, us

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday and he said, you know that he's he just

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<v Speaker 3>wants to play football, and that's the whole point. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to have some input with Cliff Kingsbury as

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<v Speaker 3>far as things that they can do it against this

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<v Speaker 3>Buccaneers defense. That's going to make him comfortable. And he

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<v Speaker 3>said that Cliff will will listen to guys. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm Washington, I'm turning this guy loose. We all

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<v Speaker 3>know what he can do. He showed everything possible as

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<v Speaker 3>far as you know, all the tricks in his bag

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<v Speaker 3>in the preseason. You know, deep ball, you know, elusiveness,

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<v Speaker 3>running the football, command of the line of scrimmage, as

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<v Speaker 3>far as what he saw on the other side of

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<v Speaker 3>the ball, to audible out of a play. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>these are the things that you want from your young quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, I think for Washington as far as

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<v Speaker 3>moving him around, I think it would be a big,

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<v Speaker 3>big plus for their offense because let's face it, when

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<v Speaker 3>you look at Tampa's defense, you know, naturally upfront you

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<v Speaker 3>have that monster Bavay, who you know, a lot of commanders,

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<v Speaker 3>fans will remember him because they wanted him to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Drafted a couple of years back.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he's a stout guy that can hold up

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<v Speaker 3>the line. But I feel really good as far as

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<v Speaker 3>the interior portion of Washington's offensive line, you know, with

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<v Speaker 3>the additions of Beatas and then Nick Alagretti and you

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<v Speaker 3>know obviously Sam Kyles mean you just got the bag

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday on the contract extension, I think that that interior

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<v Speaker 3>portion of Washington's line is clearly going to be their strength,

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<v Speaker 3>and that helps them against a guy like vi to Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think if you look at Tampa's defense, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the two guys in the back to me a really

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<v Speaker 3>good George whitehead man, Antoine Winfield Junior. You know, those

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<v Speaker 3>guys are to me the glue to Tampa's defense. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's ironic because those are the guys that Jaden's going

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<v Speaker 3>to have to attack with the deep ball to keep

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<v Speaker 3>them back, you know, to open up the run game,

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<v Speaker 3>do different things like that. So again, should they move

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<v Speaker 3>the pocket, Absolutely, I think they will, think David hit

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<v Speaker 3>on that right on the head. They're going to utilize

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<v Speaker 3>Jaden's strengths. But let's not confuse ourselves, guys. He's not

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<v Speaker 3>a running quarterback first. He's a pocket passer who happens

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<v Speaker 3>to have dynamic wills and he does take off and

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<v Speaker 3>I think if they give him the green light to

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<v Speaker 3>take off when he needs to, you're you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>see this dynamic player that everyone's looking forward to watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think that's one of the things we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen the most in training camp was, Yeah, we all

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<v Speaker 1>knew that he had his disability. We still haven't really

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<v Speaker 1>seen what Jane can do with his legs because he's

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<v Speaker 1>been so conservative with that. But who he is as

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<v Speaker 1>a passer has been just so impressive, and you saw

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<v Speaker 1>as training can't progress, they kind of let him uncork

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<v Speaker 1>these passes. It's a little bit more because he does

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't have the strongest wrong in the world, but

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<v Speaker 1>he does have a pretty decent arm to go to

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<v Speaker 1>to launch these passes down field. We saw a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of that with theanmy Brown against the Jets. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, david'll'll pose this to you. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Cliff obviously wants to make sure that he has some

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<v Speaker 1>easy reads, right he doesn't. You don't want to throw

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<v Speaker 1>all these compcit looks at him immediately. But to to

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<v Speaker 1>Lake's point, at some point, you do have to let

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<v Speaker 1>him do what he does best. So how do you

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<v Speaker 1>think Cliff is going to balance the terms of Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to give him some easier legs versus okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just go ahead and let's let's let's let him

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<v Speaker 1>try this contested pass downfield of Terry, Like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you balance the conservative versus just letting the guy loose

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<v Speaker 1>and letting him play the way he wants to play.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I think, honestly, I think Jayden has

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<v Speaker 4>kind of proven himself to be a smart decision maker

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<v Speaker 4>to the point where he kind of has.

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<v Speaker 2>That ability to make that decision for himself.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you go back to that first preseason game

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<v Speaker 4>of the year, and granted, he wasn't supposed.

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<v Speaker 2>To check out of that screen that he checked.

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<v Speaker 4>Out of, but obviously he felt like he could get

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<v Speaker 4>away with it if he did it, and he did

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<v Speaker 4>check into the big shot, he took it. Deanmy Brown

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<v Speaker 4>was able to come up with the pass smile into

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<v Speaker 4>the to the zide line. Now, I'm sure you know,

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<v Speaker 4>there was a little bit of a conversation probably had,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, later on, like hey, this is why we

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<v Speaker 4>want you to do this stuff and all these things.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that that just kind of shows you

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<v Speaker 4>how much Jaden has confidence in himself and his teammates,

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<v Speaker 4>but also how much he understands what he is allowed.

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<v Speaker 2>He has left and right limits, so to speak, within

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<v Speaker 2>this offense.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think even the Cliff is coming out there

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<v Speaker 4>and calling a conservative, you know game for Jaden initially,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, to get the rookie comfortable and all that

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<v Speaker 4>stuff that Jayden sees a shot or sees an opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>that he is comfortable. Again if the if the entire

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<v Speaker 4>mindset is, let's make sure our quarterback is comfortable. If

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<v Speaker 4>he if he looks down the line of scrimmage, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, don't want to give away too much. We

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<v Speaker 4>we't see in training camp, but if you see seventeen

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<v Speaker 4>lined up across from Bucks twenty seven in single high,

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<v Speaker 4>in a single high look in pressman coverage, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't gotta tell you in lake what probably is

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<v Speaker 4>gonna happen, but it's gonna it's probably gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. And my guys, I am a calm over there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I love that dude, but it's it's that's

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<v Speaker 2>not a good that's not a good situation for him

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<v Speaker 2>in that in that look.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, if my quarterback is comfortable checking into something, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>that that takes advantage of that look, then I would

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<v Speaker 4>be comfortable with him, you know what I'm saying, if

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<v Speaker 4>I trust him, and I think every sign we've seen

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<v Speaker 4>from this staff, again, he checked into another play against

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<v Speaker 4>the Miami Dolphants. So it's not like he checked into

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<v Speaker 4>the play against the Jets that he wasn't necessarily supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to check into and then got his hands flapped and

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<v Speaker 4>then didn't check it in anymore. So whatever conversations happened

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<v Speaker 4>behind the scenes, it didn't result in, Hey, dude, you're

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<v Speaker 4>not allowed to check out of these things because it's

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<v Speaker 4>part of the design. It's all built in there, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's I think it's I don't know, I can't quantify, right,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't. I can't tell you how many teams out

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<v Speaker 4>of thirty to do this, But I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's fairly rare for a rookie quarterback to have that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of decision making leeway, and I think it's really cool.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's really cool, and it's it's indicative of

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<v Speaker 4>how much they trust Jane to make those calls when

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<v Speaker 4>when you need to, and the better they are, Adam,

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<v Speaker 4>I think the more Cliffill dial up himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I really do like that event. Jayden

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<v Speaker 1>and this coaching staff is like they're very collaborative with

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<v Speaker 1>with him. They're not lessarily saying Okay, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>do this our way or it's not going to work.

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:30.800
<v Speaker 1>They're very much less saying, Okay, if you see a look,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, don't be afraid to check into it. And

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<v Speaker 1>they trust him because he's he developed that trust with him,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's shown that he knows this system. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that, we haven't really even seen what

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<v Speaker 1>this system is going to look like completely. We've seen

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the vanilla stuff, but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't really seen all that Cliff Kingsbury is going

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<v Speaker 1>to throw out throw the Buccaneers for obvious reasons, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really excited to see what they do what they

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<v Speaker 1>do with that. All right, guys, we have five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>left in this thing and the score is tied between

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<v Speaker 1>US ten ten, and we're going to keep this. This question,

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<v Speaker 1>this last question is really simple. Give me your base

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<v Speaker 1>best case for one player who must have a good

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<v Speaker 1>game for Washington to beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Sunday. David,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll start with you first.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna I'm gonna stick in the big ten here,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm gonna go with Kwon Martin. And I know

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<v Speaker 4>the quarterbacks, the low hanging through the O line as

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<v Speaker 4>a group.

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<v Speaker 2>Is obviously going to be important.

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<v Speaker 4>But I look at this Buccaneers offense, and I've said

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<v Speaker 4>this on some other podcasts in my years of covering

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<v Speaker 4>or writing about or talking about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

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<v Speaker 4>this is the most dynamic offense I've ever seen in Tampa.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not the best quarterback ever, so the best tight

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<v Speaker 4>end ever. It is the best wide receiver group ever.

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<v Speaker 4>And the offensive line isn't, you know, even as good

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<v Speaker 4>as the old line they had when they made the

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<v Speaker 4>run of the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>But all the pieces together holistically.

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<v Speaker 4>And with what Liam Cohen, their new offensive coordinator, has

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<v Speaker 4>done historically in his time with the Rams and even

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<v Speaker 4>the one you're spent in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the most dynamic offense.

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<v Speaker 4>And the thing that you can't prepare for the most

0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 4>in training can preseason defensively is tackling.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's usually in the beginning of the season.

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<v Speaker 4>If you see like this great defense falter against a

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<v Speaker 4>lesser opponent, it's usually because the tackling is not on

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 4>point yet because they can't practice him as much. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 4>I look at this commander's defense is Buccaneers offense, and

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<v Speaker 4>guys like Rashad White, who comes out of Arizona State,

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 4>who I consider the Penn State of the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>If he gets loose, if he's allowed to shake that first.

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<v Speaker 4>Tackle attempt, Kwan Martin's gonna be a guy that's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be back there to help clean that up. You look

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<v Speaker 4>at the pass game, Mike Evans on his deep shots.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of people look at my get him just

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<v Speaker 4>a big, tall, long dude. He's got deceptive speed even

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<v Speaker 4>at his agent, even as his experience.

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<v Speaker 2>We already talked about the slot. If Chris Godwin's able

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<v Speaker 2>to get free.

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<v Speaker 4>There's got to be that last line of defense to

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<v Speaker 4>make sure that fifteen yard games don't turn into big touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 4>Eight yard games don't turn into fifteen yard games. The

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<v Speaker 4>Buccaneers are going to make some play. So this is

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<v Speaker 4>a playoff team, back to back to back division champion.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes it's the NFC South, but still hard to win

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:52.959
<v Speaker 4>your division in the NFL. I don't care what division

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<v Speaker 4>you're in. They've got talent. We know that they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to do some things. We know that, but the Washington

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:01.199
<v Speaker 4>commanders that they can force them to stend drives like

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<v Speaker 4>your goal needs to be no drives less than eight

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<v Speaker 4>plays minimum.

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<v Speaker 2>That's minimum. You have to make Baker maybe go in there.

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<v Speaker 4>Because the thing about Baker too is even in his

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<v Speaker 4>career year last year, he'll throw some mistakes. He'll make

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 4>some mistakes. He'll give you opportunities, and Joey Junior is

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<v Speaker 4>going to lose his mind if they don't take advantage

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<v Speaker 4>of at least two or three of them.

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<v Speaker 2>But those opportunities are gonna come. To get off the field,

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:22.359
<v Speaker 2>they've got to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>But it starts with making the Bucks stay on the

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<v Speaker 4>field in the first place. For those opportunities to come,

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<v Speaker 4>and I look at Kwan Martin as that last line

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<v Speaker 4>of defense back there. So I think if he has

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<v Speaker 4>a best game of his NFL career, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>relatively short, so I think we can go that far.

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<v Speaker 4>If he has the best game of his short NFL career,

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<v Speaker 4>this team has a chance to contain the Buccaneers offense,

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<v Speaker 4>which will help the Commanders offense and allow them to

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<v Speaker 4>be more comfortable with what they're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Lake, give give me your best take. Who

0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>you think is gonna have the best game to beat

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>the Buccaneers on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, this is kind of a you know, an

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<v Speaker 3>obvious thing, and I agree with David. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>do think Kwan Martin is huge. Actually, was gonna go

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Jarem on the defensive side for the overall the overall thing.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, I think Washington has to be able to

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 3>run in the football. They have to, So I'm gonna

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 3>go with Brian Robinson and Austin Eckler. I think, you know,

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 3>as a dual threat, you'll finally get a chance to

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 3>see both these guys in action and how they can

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 3>compliment each other's games. Both can catch the ball out

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 3>the back field too. Surprisingly, Brian Robinson showed that last

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 3>year under Erik the Enemy that he could catch the

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 3>football at a high rate. So I think as long

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 3>as Washington can run the football, it kind of takes

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:36.679
<v Speaker 3>some of the pressure off Jadan in his first ever start.

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, I think it can open up things for

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Jaden as well, because obviously, if you're running the football effectively,

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.880
<v Speaker 3>you're kind of controlling the line of scrimmage. And let's

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 3>face it, you guys, if you're going to start a

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 3>left tackle, and Brandon Foeman his first ever NFL game,

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 3>if he does start at left tackle, which I think

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:57.439
<v Speaker 3>David and myself in you'sac think he will, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's something that can help his game too, because face it,

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 3>if you're asking rookies and you know, these younger players

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 3>to go immediately in the pass pro, you know that

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 3>stuff kind of can mess them up early in the game.

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 3>But if you can get them lathered up and get

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 3>them a fill for the game by running the football effectively,

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 3>it can open up things for the past game. So

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.400
<v Speaker 3>for me, if Brian Robinson can have one of these

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 3>games where he doesn't have to get a hundred yards,

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 3>but if he can get seventy yards on the ground,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, an additional twenty plus, you know, as far

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:31.880
<v Speaker 3>as dump down or something like that in the past game.

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 3>I think obviously with Austin Eckler, Eckler can get you

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 3>twenty five yards running and maybe you know, on the

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 3>other end, gets you thirty yards in the past game.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this fares very well for Washington in a

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 3>game that I think we all think is going to

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 3>be a close, closely for football game. That running game

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 3>could be the catalyst that as Washington leave Tampa with

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 3>the w You.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, normally I would knock you for giving two answers

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 1>at once there, but I think the way the way

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<v Speaker 1>that they've the way they've pretty much propped up b

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Rob and Eckler at the duo is so appropriate because

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<v Speaker 1>like they very much are a one a one beat

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>just because they offer something very different. You know, you

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 1>have Eckler with with the outside runs, but you have

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<v Speaker 1>Irob who can who can do that, but more of

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<v Speaker 1>a bruiser can can hit those of those holes down downfield.

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<v Speaker 1>And David, I love the point that you you you

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<v Speaker 1>brought up about Kwan and tackling I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be so key, especially what the Steven showed last year.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love the way Kawan Martin has developed this offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>But I gotta get I gotta go with Lake here

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<v Speaker 1>with this is it was it was so so it

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<v Speaker 1>was so excellent. Bit a point considering that this is

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Jaden's first start, you need to establish a solid

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<v Speaker 1>run game. So Lake, you are the first winner of

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<v Speaker 1>the beat Down Podcast. Do you have any any any

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<v Speaker 1>victory words that you'd like to to part on this here?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, listen, man, David's my brother man and and and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, literally one of the best out out there

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<v Speaker 3>doing this thing. So you know, it's it's all love

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<v Speaker 3>as long as I know, uh, you know, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>wear some blue next week.

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<v Speaker 2>We're good. I'm actually wearing blue today. Bro Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know what, for the record, I agree b

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<v Speaker 4>Rob and Austin Eckler. That's one a one like that

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<v Speaker 4>is that is like that's the running back position group.

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<v Speaker 4>But don't sleep on Jeremy McNichols. He was drafted by

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<v Speaker 4>Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It's not it's not a revenge game.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the staff is gone, that drafted him, all that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of stuff. But you know, for a guy that

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<v Speaker 4>has ended up being a journeyman the way that Jeremy

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<v Speaker 4>mc nichols has been, you know that there's just there's

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<v Speaker 4>got to be just a human part of him that

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<v Speaker 4>wants to win. Whatever opportunities he gets to play, even

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<v Speaker 4>if it's on special teams, make a splash play out there,

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<v Speaker 4>just go out into Raymond James Stadium, in the stadium

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<v Speaker 4>that you started your career in, and then have a

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<v Speaker 4>good day and help your team win. So you know

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<v Speaker 4>that running back group as a whole certainly going to

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<v Speaker 4>be critical for this game.

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<v Speaker 3>And it seems like they've been hot in Austin all summer,

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<v Speaker 3>just just waiting for this type of game where you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a veteran, he's been around, he knows obviously. Coach

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<v Speaker 3>Lynn is his coach here now his position coach. So

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<v Speaker 3>you just this game reeks of an Austin Eckler red

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<v Speaker 3>zone touchdown somehow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you bring up Jeremy mc nichols, I will point

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<v Speaker 1>out the day one I said, the Jeremy mc nichols froster.

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<v Speaker 1>Just just just go throw that out there for you,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, guys, you know, we're gonna see one unfolds

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<v Speaker 1>in week one. I feel they've been waiting this for years,

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<v Speaker 1>but finally we're gonna see Jade and Daniels inaction in

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<v Speaker 1>a real game where the bullets are gonna be flying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be fantastic no matter what happens. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be very competitive either way. Uh but but guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate you coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>Lake.

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<v Speaker 1>You will have a chance to keep your title, David.

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<v Speaker 1>You will have a chance to get some revenge here

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<v Speaker 1>later on the season. We'll have a rotating cast of

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<v Speaker 1>all the beat requarters over the next you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>few months or so. But it's gonna be a great

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<v Speaker 1>season either way. But guys, I really appreciate you coming

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<v Speaker 1>out and this has been the beat down