1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Katie Kuric, and this is next question. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: If you know me, and many of you probably do 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: by now, you know that twenty three years ago I 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: lost my husband Jay to calling cancer when he was 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: just forty two or it's of course, we'll never describe 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: how devastating this loss has been for me and my 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: daughters and all of Jay's family as well, but the 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: heartfelt and compassionate letters and cards that so many of 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: you sent to me. Perhaps you also know that after 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: his death, I dedicated much of my time to raising 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: money for cancer research and spreading the word about the 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: importance of getting screened. Hi, everybody, Here we are in 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: my kitchen. It's about eighteen hours plus before I get 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: my first call Inoscopy, and I also co founded with 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: the number of other strong willed women, Stand Up to Cancer. 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: It's been incredibly gratifying, but losing a partner and losing 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: the father of my daughters isn't something you ever really 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: get over, and frankly, it was and still is hard 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: to explain to anyone who hasn't gone through it how 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: excruciating it is to watch someone you love deteriorate. No, 21 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: they can't know what it's like they can never know 22 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: what it's like. Stanley Tucci understands. He lost his wife 23 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: Kate to breast cancer in two thousand nine and became 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: a member of a unique club of widows and widowers 25 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: people who understand. So when I recently interviewed Stanley about 26 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: his charming new memoir called Taste My Life Through Food, 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask him about his own recently disclosed 28 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: cancer diagnosis, as well as our shared experience of losing 29 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: our partners and co parents. Stanley and Kate had three 30 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: kids together when their mom was diagnosed. She was diagnosed 31 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: at stage four I mean, which unfortunately is is too common, 32 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: and there was you know, she struggled for four years. 33 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: My husband was diagnosed at stage four two. It was 34 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: and you know, it was just so sick and uh, 35 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, only live for nine months. So I totally 36 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: relate to that. And you keep thinking, well, you have 37 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: to be really really sick to get really really to 38 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: get well. But you keep hoping against hope that well, yeah, 39 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: maybe you'll be that small percentage of people who respond, 40 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: or maybe a new treatment will come along that will 41 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: also you know, keep you going until an even better 42 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: treatment comes along. Um. I write a lot about that 43 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: in my book and how I was sort of in 44 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: death denial. But we'll talk about that another time we 45 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: are I was. I was too. I was completely in 46 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: death denial, even though you know you see it coming, 47 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: you know what's going to happen, but you just don't 48 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: want to acknowledge it. And I think there's something weird 49 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: about protecting the person, and then you wonder is it 50 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: is it protecting them or is it misleading them? And 51 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, I have all sorts of regrets about that, UM, 52 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: but I think it's pretty common actually, that it's it's 53 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: too hard to face face reality. And I think as 54 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: a society or even the medical profession needs to needs 55 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: to help people. Because I always thought if we talked 56 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: about Jay's death, that meant we were giving up hope, 57 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: and I just didn't. I felt like to rob him 58 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: of hope would rob him of any any small pleasures 59 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: he was getting out of his life. I don't know 60 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: if you felt that way too. I did, of course 61 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: I felt that I feel exactly the same way. And 62 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: in the end, you know, the person who's sick is 63 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: the person who is most truthful. And it was very hard. 64 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: She she knew. I mean, she knew. And there was 65 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: this one moment that was very specific when we came 66 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: out of this one doctor's office and you know, they 67 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: had shown that there were lesions on her brain, and 68 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: we both just knew that sort of that was it 69 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: was making that its natural progression, the disease, and at 70 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: the last place it goes as the brain. And so 71 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: we had been incapable of stopping that. And when we 72 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: sat in the car and you know, she started crying 73 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: and she said, I want to die, and I said, 74 00:04:54,320 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: I know, I know you're not going to die. And 75 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: then you just keep moving forward from there. But I 76 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 1: knew that most likely, yes, she would die, and she knew, 77 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: and yet you couldn't discuss it. No, we discussed it 78 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: to a certain extent, and then you know, then we 79 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: moved on and we did keep we would talk about it, 80 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,239 Speaker 1: but you can only talk about it for so long. 81 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: And then and I remember going and talking about her 82 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: will and life insurance and all that stuff with the lawyer, 83 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: and it was just terrible. And she was very matter 84 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: of fact about it, because you had because she had 85 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: to be anyway. Anyway, I was sort of I was 86 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: sort of a practitioner and of toxic positivity. You know, 87 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: like Jay had brain mets too, uh, And I remember 88 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: we went to the doctor. Yeah, he had Uh. It 89 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: traveled from north it was marching northward from his liver 90 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: to his long He had a tumor on the back 91 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: of his eye, and then he had brain mets in 92 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: pretty short order. And every time, you know, the cancer 93 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: would further metastasize, I would say, don't worry, we'll figure 94 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: it out, or okay, we'll get radiation. And it was 95 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: just the only way I knew how to keep going. 96 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: Of course, and here's the thing is that we can 97 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: say that, oh, we're giving the person false hope, or 98 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: we're giving ourselves false hope. But how else, how else 99 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: do you go on? If you just give up, If 100 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: you just give up, what happens, what happens to the kids, 101 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: what happens to the person who's sick? You can't. You 102 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: have to keep trying. Unfortunately, we don't have the science, 103 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: We don't have the tools to save anybody who's suffering 104 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: like that, so we we but we implement them anyway, 105 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: and that in some ways makes it even worse, because 106 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: there is no point to doing whole brain radiation. What 107 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: would be the point of that it doesn't work right? 108 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: What would be the point of you have eleven lesions 109 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: on your brain, We're going to target each one of them, 110 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: but we know it's basically going to come back. So 111 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: we have to get to a point where the medical 112 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: community and the victims and their families make it, make 113 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: decisions together and not just go, oh no, we're gonna 114 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: just do this whole brain radiation with you and completely 115 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: kill your is it your make delay for word so 116 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: that what happens is then from what I was told, 117 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: there's no connection between your body and your brain. So 118 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: the whole thing falls apart. And that's because of the radiation. 119 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: So why do you do it? Why are we doing it? 120 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: And and not to mention in certain countries like America, 121 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: the expense of it and that is really disturbing. We 122 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: have to figure out a way, first of all, to 123 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: cure it. Second of all that people need to be 124 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: able to make a decision and go I'm not going 125 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: to do that because it can make it even worse. 126 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: And some people do, but I think more often than 127 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: not people die trying. Right there, you go, well, I'm 128 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: so sorry, Katie, I'm so sorry. I know it's been 129 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: a long time for you, m h and for me too, 130 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: but you never you never get over it. When we 131 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: come back, we dive into Stanley's memoir, his passion for food, 132 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: and his own cancer diagnosis that's right after this. In 133 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: addition to all of his acting accolades, Stanley Tucci is 134 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: the author of two cookbooks, The Tucci Cookbook and The 135 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: Tucci Table, which he co wrote with his wife, Felicity Blunt. 136 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: The two married in and have two children together. Stanley 137 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: knows his way around food writing, so when the book 138 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: publisher Simon and Schuster approached him to write another book, 139 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: he figured he had it covered. I always thought that 140 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: it would sort of take the form of observations, musings, 141 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: some experiences, some recipes, um. And then when I when 142 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: I spoke to them, when I spoke bok to them, 143 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: they said, they said, you know, don't we would really 144 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: like to have like a memoir. And I was like, 145 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: what you talk I can't do that. I don't want 146 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: to do that. And they said, well, would you give 147 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: it a try and see, because just try it. So 148 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: I tried it and and that, and I ended up 149 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: with this, but so It was never my intention really 150 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: to write a memoir. What was it like the process 151 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:31,239 Speaker 1: for you? Well, it was It was strange because I 152 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: I felt like I kept saying the felicity. I kept saying, 153 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know that I really have enough 154 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: to say, and I think I'm I only have this 155 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: many pages. You know, I don't have had nothing left. 156 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. If she goes, stand stop it, think 157 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: about when remember the story you told me about the 158 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But you remember when you told me 159 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: that when you were young and this happened and you 160 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: were that thing that your mother made and the blah 161 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: blah blah or what about the And I said, oh, oh, yeah, 162 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: you think that would be interesting? She goes yes, So 163 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: I just go back and write, you know, but it 164 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: was great. I really needed her to to help me, because, well, 165 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: you doubt yourself and you're afraid of boring people. Well, 166 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: let's talk about the book, because I know you use 167 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: food really too as the engine for the narrative instead 168 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: of film, which obviously has played an equally important role 169 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: in your life. And I wondered about that until I 170 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: came to the last chapter and I read about you know, 171 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: your cancer diagnosis. I don't want to dwell on it, 172 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: because I imagine Stanley, you don't want to dwell on it. 173 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: But it was pretty shocking when I read that. How 174 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: did that inform sort of what you wrote, even though 175 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: you would always plan to write about food. Did it 176 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: take a different tenor or tone as a result of 177 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: what you had experienced which sounds absolutely awful by the way, Yeah, 178 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: it's pretty awful. I'm not gonna lie. Uh, and anybody 179 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: who's been through it, and then a lot a lot 180 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: of people have been through this kind of cancer. Um, yeah, 181 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: it's it's very unpleasant. And you know I still suffer 182 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: from the the effects of the radiation. Well, I still 183 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: can't eat everything I want to eat. I certainly can't 184 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: eat anything spicy. I have difficulty. I still don't have 185 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: enough saliva. So you can't just sort of go, I'll 186 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: eat that sandwich. You know, eating that sandwich takes quite 187 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: a while, so you're constantly drinking water and you know, 188 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: trying to have enough from some sort of condiment to 189 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: help you through it. Um, and certain things you can eat, 190 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: no problem, that's not a problem. So you know, as 191 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: I said in the book, I lived mostly on a 192 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: vegetarian diet for a long time because I couldn't eat 193 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: meat on so it's mostly soft foods and all that. 194 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: And it's still, it's still. I have to gravitate towards 195 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: towards that. And you had it, which is which is fine. 196 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: It was a tumor, a squamous cell tumor at the 197 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: base of your tongue. Yeah, and your jaw started hurting 198 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: like excruciating right painted your jaw. Yeah, for two years. 199 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: Why didn't you get it checked before? Well? I did. 200 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: The problem is it was missed, and I don't know 201 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: how it was missed. I had a prominent U E 202 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: n t here look at it. Uh, I had I 203 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: had to scan. I had um a friend of mine 204 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: who's a neurosurgeon and a colleague of his in New York. 205 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: I had done all over the world and it was missed. 206 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: And then eventually I was like, oh, I don't know 207 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: what this is. I was getting acupuncture, it was getting 208 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: the sun as it was doing all these things, and 209 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: suddenly that finally the tumor just got so big that 210 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: I was sent to this fee sent me to this 211 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: guy was a salivary gland doctor. But obviously deals with cancer, 212 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: and he just opened up my mouth and within a 213 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: second he went, oh my god, you're this huge tumor. 214 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: Um So, I hadn't had a scan for quite a 215 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: while and the original scan missed it. Um So anyway, Um, 216 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: it was unfortunate, but it was fortunate in the sense 217 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: that we got it in time and that it had 218 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: not metastasized. It was fortunate, and I mean I was 219 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: so relieved. You know, Um, there are so many different 220 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: kinds of cancers, with so many different kind of prognoses. 221 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: And the fact that the treatment you had at Mount Sinai, 222 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: which was radiation very specific to the region and chemotherapy 223 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: I read, had a success rate. Thank god. Um, that's 224 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: the good news. Getting there, however, was not half the fun, 225 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: because it was extremely excruciating the treatment with the radiation 226 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: and the chemo, and it was a two year treatment, Stanley, 227 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: Is that right? No, no, no, no, The treatment was 228 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: only thirty five days. The the result of the treatment, 229 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: the effects of the treatment three years on now, so 230 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: it's three over three years since I finished treatment and 231 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: I'm still not back to normal. What what were some 232 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: of the what were some of the side effects you 233 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: lose your taste and smell. But you don't lose it. 234 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: What happens is everything that you smell on, everything that 235 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: you taste tastes like you know what, and to the 236 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: point where you can't. Um. You can't. If someone has 237 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: eaten and they've walked in to the room, you have 238 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: to just say, get out of the room. I can't 239 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: stand it. Oh no, you can't. If you open the refrigerator. 240 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: Normally you open a refrigerator, what do you smell? You know, 241 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: unless something is open, it's been there for what do 242 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: you smell? Nothing? It's a refrigerator keeps things cooled. The 243 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: odors get sort of numbed, right. I opened a refrigerator 244 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: at that point, and when I'm getting through treatment and 245 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: finishing treatment, and it was, as I wrote in the book, 246 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: a wall of stink. It was incredible. I couldn't be 247 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: near anything that, no matter what it was. UM. I 248 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: was so nauseous that I could just all I could 249 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: do was lay in bed. I was so nauseous from 250 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: the radiation. You're in terrible pain because it's destroying all 251 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: the seft tissue in your mouth, and you have you're 252 00:16:54,760 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: riddled with ulcers. UM plus you're just in pain, so 253 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: you're taking morphine, you're on fentanyl patches. You can't swallow 254 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: even water, so you have to then hydrate yourself, either 255 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 1: through intravenous or I finally had a feeding tube put 256 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: in after five weeks, and I stayed with that feeding 257 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: tube for six months. You lost thirty pounds and you 258 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: needed to get nourishments. So you had that kind of 259 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: feeding tube that you put I think that it's called 260 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: something like a peg, like a peg or something, and 261 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: I can't remember something like that. So you had to 262 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: get get nourishment through a feeding tube. And you know, 263 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: as I hear you describe this, Stanley, it's like such 264 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: a cruel irony for someone who gets so much pleasure 265 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: from food, whose very existence seems to be colored in 266 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: the most beautiful way by food and drink. And um, 267 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: did that strike you at the time, like w T 268 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: F Yeah, yeah, hello, I mean really, any other part 269 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: of me please take it, you know, but not that, 270 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: Please not that. And I thought I was so afraid. 271 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: I thought, well, I'm never going to be able to 272 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: eat again. I'm never gonna be able to share a 273 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: great meal, to cook a great meal with my family, 274 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: and or friends. That is really my my life, my life. 275 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: Um So, Also, it was quite ironic that CNN came 276 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: to me and I was just like six months out 277 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: of treatment and CNN came to me and said, do 278 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: you have any ideas for a show, And I said, well, 279 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: I have this idea. And I had three different ideas 280 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: and they were all involved. One was about cancer, the 281 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: other was about uh refugees and food, and then I 282 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: gave them this idea was an idea I've had for 283 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: a long time. I'm Stanley Tucci, I'm Italian on both sides, 284 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: and I'm traveling across Italy to discover how the food 285 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: in each of this country's twenty regions is as unique 286 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: as the people in their past. You know, we made 287 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: the deal, we found a production because we started making 288 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: it and there I am shooting in Italy and I'm 289 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: still not able to eat a lot of stuff. I 290 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: can taste everything at that point, but there's a lot 291 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: of stuff that I still can't swallow. So I started 292 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: to show like a little over a year after treatment, 293 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: and I honestly don't even know how I did it. 294 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: Were you faking it? Where you were in some instances 295 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: where you like, oh that's really good. No, no, no, 296 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: I could taste it, so I didn't. There was never 297 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: a lie there. But there's no question that they had to. 298 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: They would. I would ask them to cut away, or 299 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: I would turn myself away and I have to take 300 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: something out of my mouth because I was going to 301 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: choke on it. That's insane, Stanley terrible. Was it? Was 302 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: it therapeutic though, doing that documentary series, because I don't know, 303 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: you've got to get away from what you've been through 304 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: and and do something you loved even though you were compromised. Yes, 305 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: it was very I think it was therapeutic, and it was. 306 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: It was incredibly incredibly positive. It was a difficult experience, 307 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: not only because I was compromised, which is simply said logistically, 308 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: it's a very difficult thing to do. We've we've refined 309 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: it now so we're better at it. I'm about to 310 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: go start again to do three more episodes, and we 311 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: have a a really wonderful group of people put together, 312 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: and you know, so we're it's gonna be a little 313 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: more efficient, I think, um, But yes, it was. It 314 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: was something that I've never done before, obviously, and and 315 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: it was a story that I always wanted to tell 316 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: and so I felt good about that, and I felt 317 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: good that I was up out and about what else 318 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: kind of got you through that period of because it 319 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: does sound like hell. I imagine Felicity was unbelievable in 320 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: in that instance too. Yeah, she got me through it. 321 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: I mean she got me through it. She found the 322 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: doctor I was. You know, I was really adamant that 323 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: I was not going to do standard of care because 324 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: I saw what happened to Kate, and I had met 325 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: a lot of doctors that I didn't trust. I met 326 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: a lot I did trust, but I didn't trust the system. However, 327 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: when as you said before, when we look at the statistics, 328 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: you look at that prognosis, you look at those numbers, 329 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: you go like, you have to be kind of an 330 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: idiot if you don't do that. And I just wanted 331 00:21:54,880 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: to get better. Um, I'm still a believer in a 332 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: certain alternative treatments and supplements and things like that. But 333 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: I think if you you just have every cancer is different, 334 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: as you know, and do you just have to look 335 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: at what what do you have? What are the what 336 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: what's the standard of care? What are the statistics? And 337 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: are you going to do that or are you going 338 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: to augment it with something else? Are you're just gonna 339 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: do something else? And I think that people forget that 340 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: it's their body. They should be able to do what 341 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: they want, but they get afraid and they suddenly are 342 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: just doing something that might kill them before the cancer kills. 343 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: It's a very imperfect situation when it comes to cancer therapies. 344 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: You know, so often they're diagnosed sole late. You know, 345 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: you're lucky and that there was a treatment option that 346 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: was quite successful and and that it hadn't metastasized, because 347 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: I think the horrible thing about cancer is it's so 348 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: often diagnosed when it's when you're symptomatic, and you're usually 349 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: symptomatic when it's you know, a very serious situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 350 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: and that you know, that's a really it's such a tragedy. 351 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: I think people are becoming much more aware of it now. 352 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: People are getting tested, you know, for you know, your 353 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: prostate is getting checked, your vowels are getting checked, your 354 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: everything is getting checked much much more frequently now, and 355 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: cancer screenings are happening much more frequently now. The thing 356 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: is they simply have to be made available and accessible 357 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: and affordable to agree, and they're not in this country. 358 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: It's much better in America. In America, we know that 359 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: doesn't if you don't have insurance, that's it. Well, I'm 360 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: really working hard with Stand Up to Cancer and some 361 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: of my other efforts because, um, not only do this 362 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: methods have to be available, they have to be uh 363 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: you know, not couse prohibitive to your point. And um, 364 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: you know, there still aren't enough screening tests for things 365 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: like pancreatic cancer, ovarian cancer. There are many cancers that 366 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: are such silent killers, um, that we need to really 367 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: figure out how we identify them at an early stage 368 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: and then treat them as soon as possible. And you know, 369 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: during the pandemic Stanley, a lot of people had to 370 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: forego or out of choice, didn't want to get screened, 371 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: and that is going to translate, sadly into many more 372 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: cancer mortality. So, um, you know, I'm always preaching, you know. 373 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: And and a friend of mine was saying, when it 374 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: comes to fixing the healthcare system, just make sure that 375 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: people are able to see a doctor once a year. 376 00:24:54,920 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: Imagine how many things could be eliminated if that is 377 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: just part of everyone's you know, standard of care. Yes, 378 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: I agree. The problem is that we don't. We don't. 379 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: We don't have that. The more you know UM, the 380 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: better informed you are, the more proactive you can be, 381 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: and ultimately the healthier you'll be. It would save gazillions 382 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: of dollars were people simply to have a physical every 383 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: year that was completely free for them. And then you 384 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: go from there and the proper tests, right, the proper screening, 385 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: the proper tests, the proper screening. I think that also 386 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: there's very some interesting stuff has been coming out of 387 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: all this COVID UH horror UH and the way that 388 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: they were able to fast track the vaccines and everything UM. 389 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: And I think with with AI, they're they're going to 390 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: be able to screen for things and find things now 391 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: much more quickly, much more effici much more affordably than 392 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: ever before UM, and create new tests to find things 393 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: where you won't have to get a scan. They'll be 394 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: able to find it your blood, They'll be able to 395 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: find it in whatever. I'm gonna move on from the cancer. 396 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: But the one thing I also I want to keep 397 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: talking about it. The one thing I wondered and worried 398 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: about is your children having lost their mom a decade earlier. 399 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: You know, in the course, I live in fear of this, Stanley, 400 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: because I have to daughters and they were six and 401 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: two when their dad died. Uh, and that had to 402 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: go through your mind, not to mention the fact that 403 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: you were about to become a father for the fifth time. 404 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: As Rod Stewart once told me, Stanley, when I asked him, Rod, 405 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: what are you doing having all these babies at your age, 406 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: he goes, They're still letting the old pencil locate. Oh god, 407 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well, Jesus, there's an image now that 408 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: I have in my head forever. Thanks a lot. I'm 409 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: so sorry, No, in all seriousness, because I just took 410 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: this in a very different direction family. But I mean 411 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: as a dad and as a widower honestly, And uh, 412 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: this must have been been very tough for your kids. Yeah, 413 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: it was hard for them. The older kids were very um. Yeah, 414 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: I knew it was really hard for them. But they 415 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: I could feel them just pull back, um to protect themselves, 416 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: and that made perfect sense, and they'd be very sweet 417 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: and very nice. But I knew that they were like, 418 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: I don't don't want it. I don't want to know. 419 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: All I want to do is hope. And I completely 420 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: understood that, um, and I because I was really not 421 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: accessible to them. They were just watching this like practically 422 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: sort of skeletal creature walk around complaining, UM and telling 423 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: them to believe that they had eaten anything. Yeah don't, 424 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: what did you do? You smell horrible? Um. And but yeah, 425 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: it was really hard with Mateo. I knew Matteo, who 426 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: was three at the time. UM, it was hard for 427 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: him too because he saw me not engage, like completely disengaged, 428 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: and he didn't really fully understand it. And as I 429 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: was healing, I remember one time going to try to 430 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: read to him in bed and I couldn't even read 431 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: a story to him. I mean this was, you know, 432 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: a few months after treatment, and I couldn't. I didn't 433 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: have the energy to read destroy My voice wasn't strong 434 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: enough to read an entire children's book. UM. And it 435 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: was hard. And about a year later or so, I 436 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: remember him crying one night and telling me that he 437 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: was afraid that I was going to die. That he 438 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: really knew. I mean, because they know. I mean, you know, 439 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: we're animals. We know when somebody's sick. We feel it, 440 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: we smell it, you know, we sense it. And he knew, 441 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: and now now it's fine. Now it's fine. Now he 442 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: just hurls abusive me. It's fine. When we come back, 443 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: we dig into a very important subject, Stanley's friendship with 444 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds, plus excerpts and how to from Stanley's book 445 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: Stay Tuned. I'm very jealous that you're such good friends 446 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: with Ryan Reynolds. I'm jealous too. I'm jealous about it, 447 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: yet another reason I want to be Stanley too. She but, 448 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: how did you guys get to know each other? Because 449 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: Emily and Felicity are sisters, I should mention, but and 450 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: then he acted with with Emily? Or how did you 451 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: guys get No, we were I was in Westchester. We 452 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: were if thee had moved in. Felicity had moved in 453 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: to live with me and the kids for two years, 454 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: and you know, we weren't quite sure. I thought I 455 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: was really gonna end up living there with Felicity. And 456 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: after two years she was like, no, I don't think so. 457 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna move back to England. And but 458 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: while we were there, Emily emailed Fee and she said, 459 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: you know Blake Lively. You know I spent some time 460 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: with Blake Lively and she's really fun, really wonderful. And Ryan, 461 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: and why you know, they're literally two miles from your house. 462 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: Why don't you here's her email. We started emailing. We 463 00:30:54,520 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: got together within thirty minutes. We were I felt like 464 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: I had known them forever. Within a week, my kids, 465 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: who were, you know, like eleven and thirteen at the time, 466 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: we're sleeping over at their house. Um, well, I realized. 467 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: Ryan reminded me that we had been in a movie 468 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: together so many years ago, when he was like nineteen 469 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: or something. I don't have no recollection of it. And um, anyway, 470 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: we just became the closest friends. And then soon after that, 471 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: very soon after that, we moved, but we've remained great, 472 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: great friends. You took him to the doctor and tell 473 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: us set that scene for us, Okay, Well, I didn't 474 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: want him to come. I was staying. I flew back 475 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: to New York. It was for my six months, uh scam. 476 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: So I flew back to New York, and I was 477 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: staying with them in the apartment, and I think Blake 478 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: was away. Blake was away working and Ryan was there, 479 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: so it's just me and Ryan, and he goes, do 480 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: you want me to come with you? And I said no, 481 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: and Felicity I kept saying to me Stanley because she 482 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: couldn't come. She said, Stanley, I want someone to be 483 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: with you. And I was like, no, I don't want 484 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: anyone with me. I'll be fine, it's fine, no matter 485 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: what the news is, it'll be fine. She said no. 486 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: And then she Ryan said I really want to come 487 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: with you, and I said, no, you're not coming with me. 488 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: It'll be fine, don't worry about it. Of course, Felicity 489 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: had spoken to him unbeknownst to me. I had written 490 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: this in the book, but I cut it out where 491 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: she said you need to go with him, and he 492 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: was like, I know, I do. I'm gonna go. So 493 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:53,239 Speaker 1: then he convinced me that he never told me that. Uh, 494 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: he said, Okay, I'm gonna He was so sweet. He 495 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: was like, I'm getting you a car. You're gonna go 496 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: up there, and I'm you just call me when you're 497 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: when you're about to go in, and then I'll come up. 498 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: And so I I called him, and he came up 499 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: and of course walked into the room where I was 500 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: getting the news, and the entire staff was beside themselves, 501 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: and both male and female, and I mean it was. 502 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: It was quite it was quite something, and he was 503 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: so sweet when they gave me the news that you know, 504 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: you've got the all clear, there's no evidence of disease, 505 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: and he started crying. I didn't cry. I was I 506 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: didn't know what to feel except happy. But he started crying, 507 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: which made the nurses faul even more in love with him. 508 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: I know, I know. And the woman who was one 509 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 1: of the oncologists she had to she I said, can 510 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: I take out the feeding who? And they were like, yeah, 511 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: let's wait for the doctor. I said, I don't want 512 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: to wait for the doctor. I don't want to wait 513 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: for the feeding to guy. Can we just get it out? 514 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: And they go, yeah, I just actually pull it out. 515 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: So she so she said, oh, I'll do it, and 516 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: she started doing it, and because I knew how it worked, 517 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: she just started pulling and I was like, wait, you can't, don't. 518 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: What are you doing? She goes, no, I'm taking it out. 519 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: I go, you have to deflate the balloon in order 520 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: to get it out of me. She goes, oh my god, yes, 521 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: you're am sorry. I forgot but I think she was 522 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: so flummixed by what's his name? You know that you know. 523 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: Oh God, anyway, it was all fun. I do want 524 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: to just get back to some of the wonderful things 525 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: since we had such an intense, serious conversation about this Dai. Yeah, 526 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 1: we did. But about sort of the love of food 527 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: that that you have in this book, and you m 528 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: you talk about a lot of recipes. I love your 529 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: your drink recipes. I was going to make one and 530 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: just sip it while we had our conversation, especially the grony, 531 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: which I think your last line is take a sip 532 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: and feel the sunshine in your inside or something like that, 533 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: or become a new person with your martini. Um. But 534 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: but you do talk about the liveliness of an Italian Christmas, 535 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: and I thought if you could read chapter seven, it's 536 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: in a section called Christmas Day that starts upon hearing 537 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: the sound of tires. But maybe why don't you just 538 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: kind of set the Yeah, yeah, so on Christmas Day. 539 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: In my house growing up, there was a dish called 540 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 1: timpano that we used as the centerpiece of the film 541 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: and Big Night of the of the Meal and Big Night. 542 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: And Timpano is a very complicated dish, very old fashioned dish, 543 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: is very heavy dish. It sounds like a nightmare. Can 544 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: I just say it sounds like a nightmare to make? 545 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: Why would anybody want to make this dish? Because it's 546 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: really good for certain people. I love it. Most people 547 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: don't like it, but I love it. So this dishes, 548 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: it's incredibly heavy, it takes a long time to make, 549 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: it's very delicate, it's very temperamental um, and it's very 550 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: hard to eat anything else with it because it's so big. 551 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: So the meal timing of the meal gets thrown off, 552 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: and it's every cook's nightmare. Can you explain what it 553 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: is before you read this? Yeah, it's a big It's 554 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: basically like um. If you were to take like a 555 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: pasta dough or a pasta like dough, and you lay it, 556 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 1: you roll it out to it a sizeable circle, and 557 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: you put it into like a lake lake cruise or 558 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: something like that, you don't like a Dutch heaven or 559 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: an enamel basin, and then you fill it with CT, 560 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 1: You fill it with a meat based rugoo, You fill 561 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: it with um, salami, provolone cheese, you fill it with 562 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: little meatballs, you fill it with hard boiled eggs, egg yolk, 563 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: and this rugou, as I said, and Pecardino romano cheese. 564 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: So it's very salty, it's very h heavy, uh, And 565 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: so you cook it, you cover it up with the 566 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 1: with the dough, you cook it, then when you take 567 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: it out, you flip it over, you take off the 568 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: pot hopefully, and what you're presented with is basically something 569 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: looks like a timpani drum, hence the name timpano. Um. 570 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: You let it cool and then you slice it like 571 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: a cake and you see all the sort of layers 572 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: of everything that you've put in. It's very beautiful. As 573 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: I said, it's it's like cilantro. Do you either love 574 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: it or you hate it. So this was made every Sunday. 575 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: It's a very particular taste. But my it was just 576 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: a tradition. But you can't time a meal with it 577 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: because it's very fickle. So anything else you cook afterwards, 578 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: like the work, yeah, who cares. But also you can't 579 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: eat it because you're too full from the thing from 580 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: the timpano and and you can't time a ham or 581 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 1: a goose or a whatever. So Kate would get wasn't 582 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: very happy about that, and Felicity I thought, really might 583 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: be okay with it. She felt exactly the same way, 584 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,919 Speaker 1: So anyway, I'll read this. So my parents would bring 585 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: this all the time. My mother doesn't really even care 586 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: for timpana. My father is the one who loves it. 587 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: So this is what. So we think that we wake 588 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: up on Christmas morning, You're gonna languish with the kids 589 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: a little bit, hang around and play with toy no No. 590 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: Upon hearing the sound of car tires on the gravel drive, 591 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: and a moment later the shouts of Merry Christmas from 592 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: my parents mouths, I would sheapestly look at Kate. She 593 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: would sigh quietly, and then as she slowly turned and 594 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: stared at me, I would see something die in her eyes. 595 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: At this point, my anxiety level would skyrocket, and I'd 596 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,479 Speaker 1: flit off to the bar see if I couldn't find 597 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: liquid calm in a bloody Mary or a Scotch sour. 598 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: Laden with gifts and platters of food, including the Pisto 599 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: Resistance shrouded in a large dishcloth. This is the tympana. 600 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 1: My elegantly dressed parents would climb the stairs, smiling from 601 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: ear to ear, as thrilled to see us, as if 602 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: we'd all been separated for decades, when in fact We 603 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: had only just seen them the night before. They were 604 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: so happy and excited. How could I even think of 605 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 1: being put out by their extremely early arrival. Well, perhaps 606 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: not so much media as my poor wife. I will 607 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: tell you how the Timpano you featured The Timpano and 608 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: Big Night, which you wrote and directed. Did you direct 609 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: Big Night? Yeah? I co wrote it with my cousin 610 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: and co directed it with Campbell Scott. Was that a 611 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 1: homage to Kate Stanley we're here in the book The 612 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: Timpano No Big Night? Oh no, No, it was just 613 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, my cousin and I. It just seemed like 614 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: the right choice because it is so difficult, and it's 615 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: only you know, an accomplished chef would attempt such a thing. 616 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: And that's why we put it in because the character 617 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: of Primo, played by Tony Shalhoub, would always just make 618 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: things more difficult than they had to be. Tim Oh 619 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 1: is it Boston? No with a specially grass now? And 620 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: it is a shape like like a drum, like a 621 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: Timpani drum, and the Hindu side, please my God, all 622 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 1: of the most important things in the world. Speaking of 623 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: difficult Italians, you write in your book that they can 624 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: be very dogmatic when it comes to food, and uh, 625 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: certainly with the Timpano that's the case in point. But 626 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: there seems to be a right way of doing things 627 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: and then the other way of doing so we thought 628 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: we'd have some fun, uh with with Stanley Tuccie how 629 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: to little food and life lessons based on the dogmatic 630 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 1: Italian ways. So here, ladies and gentlemen, I present to 631 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: you Stanley Tucci's how to. Let's start easy and I 632 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: love this idea. It's brilliant. Why didn't I ever think 633 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: of how to butter corn? Mm hm? Oh? The best exploit, Katie. 634 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's incredible. Throw some nice salted butter 635 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,720 Speaker 1: on a beautiful warm piece of bread. Doesn't even actually 636 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: have to be warm, and not like a cheap piece 637 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: of bread, like a really nice piece of Italian better 638 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: French bread. Salt your corn and then butter your corn 639 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,919 Speaker 1: with that buttered bread. Then you basically have like two 640 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: meals in your hand. That's genius, Stanley, It's genius. Why 641 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,479 Speaker 1: why hasn't that caught on? I don't know, but maybe 642 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: it will now. Yeah, I'm going to try it the 643 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 1: next time I have corn on the cob. You're also 644 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 1: quite specific and picky about what pasta goes with what sauce. Yeah, 645 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: do tell when you go to Italy. They're very specific. 646 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: So if you say, oh, I'd love to have the bully, 647 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,320 Speaker 1: can I have that with star pasta? I mean what 648 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: they'll do? Can you can I have that with Postina? 649 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: You know they'll just pick you up and throw you 650 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: out of the restaurant. I mean, there are so many 651 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: stories I've heard of of of restaurant tours of chefs 652 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: going sorry, I can't give you that, and the person goes, 653 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,720 Speaker 1: but I'm the customer. You're like, they go not anymore, 654 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: get out. So what goes with what? Stanley? Well, let's say, 655 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: having learned the original recipe in Boulogne and bullion is 656 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: probably just one of the greatest sauces in the world. 657 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: But the original recipe for bulloing is is very quite 658 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: different than what we know of, but it's normally served. 659 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: Both versions would be normally served with fresh maybe or 660 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:11,479 Speaker 1: even a strong dried pasta like uh Rigatoni or something 661 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: like that. That because it's a it's a substantial sauce, 662 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: so you want something that's going to support it. Um 663 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: I would not do it with something like you don't 664 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,240 Speaker 1: do it with spaghetti. It doesn't work. And in England 665 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 1: they always have they have a thing called spag bowl 666 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:35,760 Speaker 1: which is spaghetti bolo, but spaghetti bolon is it doesn't exist. 667 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 1: And if you try to order that in Bologna, no 668 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,879 Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. You need to tell those those 669 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: Brits that they're not doing it right. No, no, they're 670 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: so not. And and finally, um that you also talk 671 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: about how to prepare main lobster, which is something that 672 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 1: that Kate's fan only put it would put together. Um, 673 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: And I guess there's really only one perfect way to 674 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: eat to prepare main lobster, isn't there? I think so? 675 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: So you have to use the water from the the 676 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: waters of Maine, the sea water and seaweed and do 677 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: it over a fire in a big pot. Throw in 678 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: those lobsters when the water is boiling, put the seaweed 679 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: on top, put corn on top of that seaweed on 680 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 1: top of the corn. Boil it for I have no 681 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 1: idea how long, six minutes maybe, and take it out 682 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: and eat it and it's incredible. For more how to 683 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: recipes and stories from everyone's favorite Italian Stallion go buy 684 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 1: Stanley tucciese book Taste My Life Through Food, which is 685 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: out now and by the way, we're officially in the 686 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: public Asian month of my book called Going There. There's 687 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: still time to pre order, and if you'd like to 688 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: join me on tour, you can go to ticketmaster dot 689 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: com slash Going There to find out where I'll be 690 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: traveling and to get your tickets. Next Question with Katie 691 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: Kurik is a production of I Heart Media and Katie 692 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: Currik Media. 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