1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody. 2 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of The Klay, Travis and Buck Sexton Show 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: kicks off right now. We got a lot of news 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: racked and stacked. 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 3: We're gonna make it all make sense, So come in 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 3: close for a big radio huge much to discuss. 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: We got the. 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: Eric Adams statement about illegals in New York City and 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 2: how he feels about them. Is this a turning of 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: the tide for the Big Apple when it comes to 11 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: the migrant aka illegal alien problem. I think that's something 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: that we're gonna spend a little bit of time on. 13 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: There's an opportunity here for the mayor of America's largest 14 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 2: city to really step into the mandate of making New 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: York safe again, which would in fact be a huge 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: step toward making New York great again. And given what 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: the Feds have done to him there for speaking out 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: about migrants in the first place. 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. 20 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: Maybe Mayor Eric Adams should to have a little outreach 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: to the incoming president. One thing about Trump, you got 22 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: to give him credit for. If you're willing to do 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: the job, if you're willing to be maga, there's always 24 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: room on the Trump train. There's always room for allies. 25 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: In fact, I think one of Trump's favorite things is 26 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: to flip opponents to allies. Now, maybe getting ahead of ourselves, 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: Eric Adams might put out a statement tomorrow about how 28 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: awful Trump is. Who knows, but interesting situation about the 29 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: migrants in New York City. You've also got, oh boy, 30 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 3: the dea pick. Chad Cronister has stepped out of the mix, Clay, 31 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: and I can get into some of why that happened. 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: The jury has the Daniel Penny trial also in New 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: York City. We'll bring you any updates on that we 34 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: could get, right, Clay, We could get a verity at 35 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: any point. Yeah, it could happen while we're on the air, 36 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: so we'll be focused in on that one we've got. 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: I don't know, this is interesting to us in the 38 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: media because it's been a long time coming. ABC News 39 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: staffers working in near decrepit building with no Wi Fi, 40 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 3: no heat as Good Morning America ratings tank. I just 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: think that's interesting, Clay, because it's not only the more 42 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: left wing MSNBC right, like the openly partisan outlets that 43 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: are getting hit now. It's like morning shows where one 44 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: minute they're doing news, the next minute they're like here's 45 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: the best way to make a summer salad. 46 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: Like they're getting hit two. I think there's a big 47 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: change in the media that's going on right now. 48 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: There's even more. 49 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: The judge in the Hunter Biden case, which now is 50 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: not a case anymore because the pardon had some scathing 51 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: words about Biden's lie in the part in Biden fell 52 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: asleep in Africa he's in Angola giving away taxpayer dollars. 53 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: And we've also got Clay's going to dive into this 54 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: in the next hour. In Tennessee, the State of Tennessee 55 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: in a lawsuit with the Biden administration over the issue 56 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: of transsurgery for my and a ban on transferds in 57 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: Tennessee Supreme Court heard those oral arguments this morning. Clay 58 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: lawyer Clay going to step in and tell us what 59 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: he thinks on that one. Clay, I gotta say, you know, 60 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: the the biggest to the two biggest missions of the 61 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: Trump administration, I think quite clearly are the border and 62 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: the bureaucracy, right or you know, illegals and the deep state. 63 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: Different ways you can say the same thing, Mayor Adams. 64 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: I don't take this as a minor thing. I think 65 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: this is an interesting place to go. I think it's 66 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: something of outreach to the incoming administration too. This is 67 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: cut twelve. He's just saying, I'm deporting criminals going forward, 68 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna help ice and you can quote cancel me. 69 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: If you've got a problem with that play it. 70 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: I want you to all go back and google Hillary 71 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 4: Clinton and Barack Obama. Google what they said about those 72 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: who could make crimes in our city and what they 73 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: say in our country. They said, those who commit crimes 74 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: need to get out right away. That was their position. 75 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 4: So this is not a new position, you know, because 76 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 4: in the state of the in the era of cancel culture, 77 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 4: no one's afraid to be honest about the truth. Well, 78 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 4: cancel me, because I'm going to protect the people of 79 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 4: this city. And if you come into this country, in 80 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 4: this city and think you're going to harm innocent New 81 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: Yorkers and innocent migrants and asylum seekers, this is not 82 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 4: the mayor you want to be in the city under. 83 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: All right, now, he's still with the asylum secrets who 84 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: don't commit crimes. I caught that point at the end. 85 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: But Clay, it has been a huge fight with Democrats 86 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: to even get them to agree that illegals like the 87 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: one who went on to rape and murder Lake and 88 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: Riley should be deported with the help of local and 89 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: state police. 90 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, and. 91 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: I think Mayor Adams is right on this, And this 92 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 2: is why I said, A part of me thinks that 93 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: Trump should come in and just immediately pardon Eric Adams 94 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,119 Speaker 2: as part of his decision to pardon the jan six guys. 95 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: And I remember I said, and a lot of people 96 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: out there got upset. You had, I think had the 97 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: same take that it would not be a bad move 98 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: for Trump to also pardon Hunter Biden. 99 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: I had the same take as you. I wasn't upset 100 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: by the take. 101 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: Yes, correct, No, yes, you and I had the same take. 102 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: Many of our listeners out there were. But to me, 103 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: it's a clear the decks move. Hey, we're turning the 104 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: page to steal a line from Gamala Harris on the 105 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: Law Fair that became very commonplace associated with everything surrounding 106 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: the Biden team. And I think Trump's got an ally 107 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 2: in Eric Adams when it comes to issues of migrants 108 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: illegally taking over the. 109 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: City of New York. Buck for you, I'm flying up 110 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: to New York. 111 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: I'm ducking out the third hour because I'm going to 112 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: Israel for the show on Thursday evening. 113 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: That's just a little bit of background. 114 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 2: You. You know, they banned Airbnb in New York City, 115 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: so basically you can't put your home on Airbnb. They 116 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: also have I think it's over ten percent of all 117 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: hotel rooms right now are taken by. 118 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty, it's twenty. 119 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty percent of New York City hotel rooms are 120 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: taken over by by people there and they live there. 121 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 2: They're not there for a night while they're being processed 122 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: to the facility or something. They live there. You can't 123 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: get a hotel room now in New York City right 124 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: now for less than like five hundred bucks. If you 125 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: want to be anywhere around Midtown. Some of the rooms 126 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: are thousand dollars a night. Why do I bring that 127 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: up because I'm traveling up and having to stay there 128 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 2: right now. 129 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: New York City is broken in many ways. 130 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you see the assassination, Yes, I was gonna say, 131 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: right of a major hotel. It appears there was a 132 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: gangland style hit on a prominent business executive Clay outside 133 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: of a hotel. It's outside of our New York City office. 134 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: That's where I'll be doing the show to one, You'll be. 135 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: Doing the show right in the vicinity of I mean people, remember, 136 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: you know, in Midtown, it's not hard to find where 137 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: people are. 138 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: It's not some big secret, right, you can google these things. 139 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: You're talking about. A stone's throwaway from that assassination is 140 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: where you're going to be doing the radio show tomorrow. 141 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 2: My point being that is the heart of New York City. 142 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: That is the absolute center of New York, the business district, 143 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: Midtown near It's right near Rockefeller Center, it's right near 144 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: Central Park. I mean, it's and it's just a brazen 145 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: assassination attempt. I saw some clips from the NYPD conference 146 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: on it, and it looks like this. This is I mean, 147 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: it's a pro or professional hit. The guy had to 148 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: clear a malfunction his weapon quickly, multiple shots from behind, 149 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: jumped on an e bike, had his face and head 150 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: and everything covered. I mean, this was not like, you know, 151 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: at least it doesn't strike me as like a rage 152 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: filled you know, lover's quarrel or some kind of nonsense. 153 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: This is a This looks like a professional hit. So 154 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: that's another thing. The city of New York is looking 155 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: at it right now. They've got to just get the 156 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: crime issue in general down there were there was recently 157 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: a broad daylight two armed men carjacking clay on eighty 158 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: third in Broadway again, eighty third and Broadway. You can't 159 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: get an apartment on an eighty third and Broadway. You 160 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: can't get a studio for less than a million bucks. 161 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is fancy, high end parts 162 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: of Gotham, you know, of America's grandest city, and it's 163 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: just too much. People are waking up to this. New 164 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: York did trend toward Trump, not enough, unfortunately, but New 165 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: York State trended toward Trump in this last election. And 166 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 3: the issue of the of migrants in New York City. 167 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: I think this played a big role in the in 168 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 3: the national election. I think it shows how clear Trump's 169 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: mandate is. And I believe there's a real opportunity here 170 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: for Eric Adams to say, look, I don't agree with 171 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 3: Trump on a lot, but I'll work with his administration 172 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: on making sure that criminal illegals are deported as expeditiously 173 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: as possible. That's common ground that I think would would 174 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 3: go over very well on both sides. We'll see if 175 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: he's also they're prosecuting him, right, so there's that his 176 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: team has betrayed him. 177 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I just. 178 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: To your point, new York City, Trump got more votes 179 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: than any Republican since nineteen eighty eight. So that's a 180 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: pretty seismic change. And the votes that he was getting 181 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: were overwhelmingly coming from non traditional Republican areas. Remember one 182 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: of the districts that moved the most in Trump's direction 183 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: was AOC's. And you know, it's kind of staggering when 184 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: you consider that there's talk, oh, AOC may run for 185 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: president in twenty twenty eight, and I actually think she will, 186 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: and we'll see how that plays going forward. I think 187 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: that's her next move. She's not going to run for 188 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: governor or Senate in New York. I think she feels 189 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 2: like she has a big enough platform now that she 190 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: can make a run for president of the United States. 191 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 2: But so you got chaos in New York, you've also 192 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: got right now, Pete hegset buck under a level of 193 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: attack that is higher, I think right now than what 194 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: they did with Matt Gates. I think they felt like 195 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: Matt Gates never had the support and so he never 196 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: really got you agree with this, and there was never 197 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 2: really an aggressive go after Matt Gates media campaign because 198 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: I think they kind of knew the votes weren't there 199 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: and they never needed to unleash the hounds, so to speak. 200 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: You and I need to weigh in on some of 201 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 2: this stuff because the amount of stories that are coming 202 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: out just going after Pete Hegset for everything. NBC News 203 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: has a monster story where they basically accused him of 204 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: being a drunk who was unable to do television and done, 205 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: You've worked with Pete. I've worked with Pete. I mean 206 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: this is something we can speak of a direct personal knowledge. 207 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: The nastiness of this campaign that they have unleashed against 208 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: Pete hegseth is is cat Brett Kavanaugh. 209 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: Like they called my wife on her personal cell phone. 210 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: You could say it, I want, I didn't want to 211 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: say it, but. 212 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know, I'll say it. They called my 213 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: wife on her personal cell phone looking for dirt on 214 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: our friend Pete and Carrie's Carrie, she doesn't talk to 215 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: regime media got a click right away. But point here being, 216 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: they are going all out to do whatever they can 217 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: uh to destroy him. I think with Matt Gates Clay. 218 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: Part of it was the initial Gates stuff was well 219 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: wait till wait till the set you know, he's going 220 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: to have his say before the Senate. There wasn't a 221 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: lot of new information. It was all known. 222 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: They've been on a dig up everything campaign against against Pete. 223 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 5: Right. 224 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: They also were trying to get the report out against 225 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: Matt Gates. That was going to be the whole thing. 226 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: So they were lobbying to get the report out With Pete. 227 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: They've been you know, they're going back to an investigative 228 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: reporting and trying to do oppo research on him, you know, 229 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: back to high school. I'm sure, back to you know, 230 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 2: when he was in his first boy Scout ribbons or whatever. 231 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're going all out. I was actually 232 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: having a call with the buddy the other day. We 233 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: were talking yesterday about the heagset thing, and I'm like, 234 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: I don't know that we've seen anything of this measure 235 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: and magnitude, because I don't think Pete Hegseth is an 236 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: unknown dude. I mean, he's on television all the time 237 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: for Fox News. I'm stunned by how threatened they are 238 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 2: by him, to the extent that they've come after him 239 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 2: with everything they've got. 240 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: What I'm seeing is that the storyline is that Trump 241 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 3: is waffling, and I think they're trying to use that storyline, 242 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 3: meaning the media saying it that Trump is waffling about 243 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: the hegseet appointment, so that then it becomes it's like 244 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 3: a self fulfilling prophecy, right, it's oh, Trump's waffling, And 245 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 3: then that gets back to Trump and people start to say, well, 246 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 3: you know, maybe this I think they're trying to create 247 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 3: cracks in this. I don't know, man, the inner circle 248 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: of decision making on this is very tight. 249 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: Let's come back. Let let's talk about this a little 250 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: bit more. 251 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: Shall Yeah, let's get into this and have more of 252 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: a discussion about it, because, uh, you've got three names 253 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: in the mix right now for d O D chief. 254 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 3: Three names our friend Pete heg Seth, the fantastic Ron DeSantis, 255 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 3: and our friend Bridge Colby, who's brilliant. These are the 256 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: three names that are being reported as possible secretary of Defense. 257 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: Let's come back. 258 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 2: And also, if anybody has a particularly strong opinion on that, 259 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: I want to know what you think, because to me, 260 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: you know, this is like if I knew who played 261 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: sports more. I'd start saying great sports people. But you know, 262 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: this is like Jerald pick between. This is like picking 263 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: between yeah, pickles. This is like picking between Patrick Mahomes 264 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 2: Josh Allen and and well, let's just say it's like 265 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: picking between Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen, clearly the two 266 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: best quarterbacks in the end. 267 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: Great great people for the job that I think would 268 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: get it done. But if you have strong opinions on it, 269 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: I definitely want I definitely want to hear it. 270 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: So we'll get into that. 271 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: Look, I want to tell you the holidays prime time 272 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: for cyber hackers. 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It actually is important 298 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: for you to understand how crazy some of these arguments 299 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: have become. The ACLU lawyer who are who is challenging 300 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: these issues says, basically, kids, which cut is it? Where? 301 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: He says, kid? I mean this whole thing is crazy, Buck, 302 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: but cut one. He says, basically infants young toddlers know 303 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: what gender they are and if they're a different Listen 304 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: to this, listen to cut one. 305 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 7: Nobody has to provide this medication to adolescents. These are 306 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 7: not doctors being forced to provide this medication. These are 307 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 7: doctors who are wanting to treat their patients in the 308 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 7: best way that they know how, based on the best 309 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 7: available evidence to us. And these are young people who 310 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 7: may have known since they were two years old exactly 311 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 7: who they are, who suffered for six seven years before 312 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 7: they had any relief. And what's happening here. It's not 313 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 7: the kids who are consenting to this treatment, it's the 314 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 7: parents who are consenting to the treatment. And as a parent, 315 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 7: I would say we when our children are suffering, we 316 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 7: are suffering. 317 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: And these are parents who love their. 318 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 7: Children, who are listening to the advice of their doctors, 319 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 7: of the mainstream medical community, and doing what's right for 320 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 7: their kids. In the state of Tennessee has displaced their judgment. 321 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: I mean two year old. 322 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: I mean it's important again to understand how crazy these 323 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: arguments are. Buck You will soon have a two year old. 324 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: You will hear your two year old make some truly 325 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: outrageous arguments. A lot of two year olds think they 326 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: are dinosaurs. Many two year olds out there think that 327 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: they are, that they are ghosts or goblins or jedis. 328 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: The idea that you would treat your two year old's 329 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: determination about what gender he or she is as the 330 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: truth is bonkers for anyone that has ever raised a 331 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: two year old. This is what they're arguing. 332 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: Though. 333 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 3: You know, people talk about the military industrial complex, and 334 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 3: that's that's obviously fair and important to be aware of 335 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 3: and to be on guard against. There's also a sort 336 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: of gender activist industrial complex, if you will. There's a 337 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 3: lot of money, time and effort from a whole range 338 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 3: of NGOs, a whole range of nonprofits. 339 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 2: And and then you. 340 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: Know things that are funded even by government dollars, that 341 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 3: people don't even know about, that are very in need 342 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 3: of the next civil rights crusade. Right in the aftermath 343 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: of the Supreme Court's gay marriage decision, there was huge 344 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: apparatus of people who feel a need both for financial, 345 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: professional reasons and personal reasons. 346 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: I guess to. 347 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 2: Find the next crusade for them to make illegal and 348 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: cultural and political issue. And they have chosen this issue 349 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: of trans as the thing. And I think you have 350 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: to see how that fits into everything else that they 351 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 2: are doing and the reason that they are saying. So, 352 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: I just want to be clear, there's a big machine 353 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: behind this. And so when they say, oh, mainstream doctors, 354 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: when this woman says that mainstream doctors are transman, fine, 355 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: trans man, we can say, says that mainstream doctors want 356 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: to do this, well, there are ideologues in medicine. There 357 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: are also people who don't want to get their medical 358 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: licenses revoked. If you said masks don't work, you are 359 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: in danger of losing your medical license during COVID. Masks 360 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: don't work. We know that now, unless you're a moron, 361 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 2: you figured that out right. But medicine has been institutionally 362 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: shockingly wrong, shockingly bureaucratic, and grotesquely cowardly in the COVID 363 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: era because of the machinery that pushes these decisions, the 364 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: fauciism behind all of it. With the trans issue, Clay, 365 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: you look at what doctors are saying, and they won't 366 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 2: subject themselves to public scrutiny over these issues. 367 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: Why is it a problem. 368 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 3: When Matt Walsh was finding out about the gender surgeries 369 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 3: that were going on in these different hospitals, why is 370 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: that an issue? It's not an issue when they find 371 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 3: out about how many heart surgeries are going on. If 372 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 3: it's just medical care, why don't they want to talk 373 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: about it. Why don't they want us to know more 374 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: about what's going on here? Why aren't there long term 375 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: studies posted on our website for everybody to see about 376 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: psychiatric wellness? Ten years after a thirteen year old girl 377 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 3: has her breast removed because it's very, very bad. They 378 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: are hiding, they are lying, And it is obvious to 379 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 3: anyone who's being being paid attention to all this issue, 380 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 3: has paid attention on this issue, and I mean this 381 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: fundamentally just manifests itself with we are supposed to look 382 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: at Riley Gaines and what was the name of the guy? 383 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: Well, do you mayr? 384 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: I don't remember his name? Leah Thomas. Leah Thomas will 385 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: Thomas was his name when he swam for the University 386 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: of Pennsylvania men's team. He then changed his name to 387 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: Leah and said he was a woman Clay just dead named. 388 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 2: I'm honestly, I'm just so sad now he's dead named someone. Yeah, 389 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 2: Leah Thomas. You're supposed to look at a six foot 390 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: three men with a penis and say that's a woman, 391 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, I just won't and I refuse. 392 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: And people can get. 393 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: Mad and they can say that's mean, and they can 394 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 2: say whatever, it's not true, and people can try to 395 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: force me to say things that are not true. But 396 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: I am always going to have a problem with that 397 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: and I'm going to refuse. And the idea that two 398 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: year olds know they are trans I mean, I ask 399 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: the trans advocates this, So can people be realized they're 400 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 2: entrans because that is a thing too. Yeah, so how 401 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: can you be born with something that is immutable and 402 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: needs to be a constitutionally protected characteristic. If you can 403 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: go the other way, if you can go back, you 404 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: can say I made a mistake. 405 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: This is this is a ssike, you know. 406 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 2: It's by the way, the detransitioning thing is something they 407 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 2: absolutely they pretend it doesn't exist, but it is real. 408 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: It's real. 409 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 3: And what they do here, what they're doing, what they're 410 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 3: trying to do kids as monstrous. Tennessee did the right 411 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: thing by trying to remember they're not even stopping this 412 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 3: for adults. There's a whole other thing that should be 413 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: the conversation about should adults even be doing this? I mean, 414 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: having their legal right to do it is one question. 415 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: Being encouraged by society to do it is another. I mean, 416 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 3: if you find out clay what it looks like for 417 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 3: people who have they call it bottom surgery. 418 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: It is an. 419 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 2: Unhealing wound that has to be given sick to think about, right, 420 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: like the physics of it and the physicality of what 421 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 2: it requires. But you can think about it. It can't happen. 422 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: Someone could say I want to become a ze and 423 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 2: you could do a lot of things to them, but 424 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: you actually cannot create a zebra out of a human being. 425 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: You actually cannot create a woman out. 426 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: Of a man. 427 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: It is not possible. Again, it is a lie. And 428 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: so that's really where you see the lies pile the 429 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: top lies here. And they've used courtesy, and they have 430 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 2: used decency, and they have used kindness to push this 431 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: issue to the point where now they wanted to create 432 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 2: from the Supreme Court that nobody can stand in the 433 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 2: way of a thirteen year old girl who's or boy 434 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: or whatever, who is learning about life, who knows nothing, 435 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: who's not legally allowed to drink, who's not legally allowed 436 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 2: to consent to sexual activity, who's not legally allowed to 437 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: get a tattoo, as you point out, but get your 438 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: breasts removed or it could take puberty blockers. 439 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 5: It is. 440 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 2: It is insane what is going on, and we will 441 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: not get a single medical doctor, by the way, who'd 442 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: be willing to come on the show and actually defend 443 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: these processes, these procedures, other than just to say I'm 444 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 2: a doctor and I just do with The meta is 445 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: they won't describe what really goes on well. 446 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: And also this is important too. 447 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of blackmail intellectually that's going 448 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: on here because what they say to parents, they take 449 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: advantage of parental love and acquiescence in many ways. They say, 450 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 2: would you rather have this is a common thing. Would 451 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 2: you rather have a live daughter or dead son or 452 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: vice versa. The idea being your kid is going to 453 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: kill themselves if they aren't allowed to have this gender surgery, 454 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: and parents feel blackmailed because God forbid any parent out 455 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: there suicide if you ever have to. 456 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: Go through it. 457 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: The idea that your choice would directly implicate whether your 458 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: child is alive is emotional blackmail to parents. It's a 459 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 2: lot of parents question this, but they have doctors telling 460 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 2: them this, who are doing these surgeries and but this 461 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: just came down today. I do think it's kind of 462 00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: consequential credit the LPGA. The LPGA has banned anyone who 463 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: was born as a male from ever being able to 464 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 2: compete in women's golf. This is a big deal because 465 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: there have been men who decide they identify as women 466 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: trying to do what Leah Thomas did and become female golfers. 467 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: Here's the problem that I would point out. Here's the 468 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: direct quote. Athletes who are assigned female at birth are 469 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: eligible to compete on the LBGA Tour, Epsent Tour, European Tour, 470 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: all other elite LPGA competitions. Players assigned male at birth 471 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: and assigned male at birth like this phrasing is ridiculous. 472 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: But players assigned male at birth, and here's a loophole 473 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: and who have gone through male puberty are not eligible 474 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: to compete in the aforementioned events. What they're trying to 475 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: do buck is argue, once you go through puberty, it's 476 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: harder to change your gender. That's why they want these 477 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: children to get puberty blockers, to have the surgeries early, 478 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 2: because until you go through adolescence, you don't develop adult 479 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 2: sexual organs. And I hate to say this, but that 480 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: is a form of direct child abuse that you wouldn't 481 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 2: allow a child to grow up. 482 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: But also. 483 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: This idea in general is actually encouraging younger transitioning because 484 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: they are saying, if you can delay puberty, then you 485 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: can change gender. This is the argument they're now making 486 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: to parents. And by the way, these puberty blockers, we're 487 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 2: just learning some of the impacts of this stuff, buck 488 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 2: because the people that had this done are just now 489 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 2: getting into their twenties and thirties. They are finding this 490 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: doesn't shouldn't shock anybody that your bones don't develop properly 491 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: when you restrict hormones estrogen, testosterone that would otherwise fuel growth. 492 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: So these people are not going to have normal lifespans. 493 00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: They're rendered infertile for life. I mean just that by itself, 494 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: would you ever imagine that you would allow your child 495 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: at thirteen or fourteen to say, I'm going to make 496 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: a decision that would never allow me to be a parent, 497 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 2: Because that's what's happening here. 498 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: It's barbaric, there really is. 499 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 4: Now. 500 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: Look, I think this is one where we have to 501 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 2: draw it. There have to be a firm line drawn 502 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 2: on this one, I do think the Supreme Court is 503 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: going to find in favor of Tennessee's. 504 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do firmly believe that. But I also know 505 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 3: to give you a sense of the power of this cult. 506 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: That's so to my Ore and KBJ are going to 507 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 3: find and Kagan are going to find in favor or 508 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 3: against the baron Tennessee. 509 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: It's going to be a six to three decision. 510 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: And by the way, what is also going to happen 511 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 2: here is some states are going to specifically say this 512 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: is allowed, and parents who are diluted are going to 513 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 2: take their kids across state lines to get their genitals 514 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: chopped off. I mean, if you're in Tennessee, I bet 515 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 2: Illinois is going to allow this surgery. So you're going 516 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: to have parents crossing state lines to have these surgeries, 517 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: which is frankly why I think we need a national 518 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: ban on this. I hate to say that we have 519 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: to do it nationwide, but I think we do because 520 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 2: the response, if you're right, Buck, and I think you are, 521 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 2: that the Supreme Court is going to allow Tennessee to 522 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: make this decision, is actually going to be for left 523 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 2: wing states because this has become part of their orthodoxy 524 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 2: to actually encourage people from other states to travel there 525 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: for the surgeries. And you know that I know the 526 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: mind of the left because I've been dealing with them 527 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 2: for a very long time and grew up in a 528 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 2: leftist enclave, Clay. If it comes to it, and they've 529 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: already started to do this, I know this has happened 530 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: in different places. If they had their way, and if 531 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: the lives on the Supreme Court and the Democrat Party 532 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: had their way, a twelve year old who says I'm 533 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 2: not a girl or I'm not a girl, I'm a 534 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: boy who has parents who say no, we're not going 535 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: to do that. They would have child Services come and 536 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: intervene and force the transition and put the parents in 537 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: prison if they had to to make sure that that 538 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: transition went through, because that is how psychotic they are 539 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: on this issue. You're right, And if the Supreme Court 540 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: rules as we think, I think it will actually accelerate 541 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 2: the crazy in many of these blue state enclaves. And 542 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 2: that's why I think we're going to have to do 543 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: something on a nationwide level. Look, we were just talking 544 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: about testosterone. 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She's 575 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 2: done so much fantastic work on the issue of pardons 576 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: for J six justice involved individuals. It's the terminal left 577 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: views is for actual criminals, so I guess we'll find 578 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: something else for them. 579 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: Some people say political prisoners depends. Julie. Appreciate you being 580 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: with us. 581 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 3: I want to get into I want to get into 582 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 3: some of the appointees if I can here with you 583 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 3: for a second. I'm sure you're following this closely. I 584 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 3: know you know some of these individuals. 585 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: What are you thinking? 586 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 3: I from the tea leaf reading that I can do, 587 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: from the various senators and statements and things they've put out, 588 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: it seems like Pete is rallying up on Capitol Hill, 589 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 3: getting more Senators to come to his side. 590 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: And I would put the. 591 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 3: Likelihood of his confirmation going higher today than certainly it 592 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 3: seemed to be yesterday. 593 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 5: Sure that sounds about right, Buck. You know, you just 594 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 5: can't allow the caving in to these hit jobs, these 595 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 5: character assassination attempts by the media and Democrats, and it 596 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 5: appears some Republicans are behind this as well. So by 597 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 5: sticking with Pete's nomination, the President and everyone else on 598 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 5: the side demonstrates that those Breck Cavanaugh days are over 599 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 5: and it simply will not be tolerated because if this 600 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 5: nomination for somehow, somehow goes south, either maybe at the 601 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 5: hands of a group of Republican senators who don't want 602 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 5: the military reforms, who want to keep pumping billions of 603 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 5: dollars in Ukraine and other places, you know, to keep 604 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 5: the laundering machine of military defense contracts going, then you 605 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 5: know that will be a troublesome sign. Lly think that 606 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 5: it was a good sign today that the President spoke 607 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 5: out and also Pete himself. So your announcis is probably 608 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 5: spot on right there. 609 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll continue to follow it. I just feel like 610 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 2: we could get more updates while we're here on air. 611 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: In this hour, let's transition to what's going on with 612 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: the j six pardons that everyone's hoping are going to 613 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 2: be coming. I think it will be worthwhile, Julie, for 614 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 2: you to remind everybody of you know, in the aftermath 615 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: of the Hunter Biden pardon, for example, and there was 616 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: really no dispute over the facts. Hunter Biden committed many, 617 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,479 Speaker 2: many crimes, and they tried to make it go away, 618 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: or they tried to make it go away the first time, 619 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: and then they finally made it go away with the 620 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: presidential pardon the second time, and they were looking the 621 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: other way the whole time because he was a protected Democrat. 622 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: This the Democrats have started to say, makes it seem 623 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: like there's even more of a leeway. I don't know 624 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: if Trump needs it, obviously, but more of a leeway 625 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: for Trump to pardon j six individuals. How do you 626 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: see that? And do they feel like, Wow, this is really, 627 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: you know, helping show the. 628 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: Two tier justice system that we've been subjected to exactly. 629 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 5: And I do have a piece up at my subject 630 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 5: you Classified with Julie Kelly that talks about hardening all 631 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 5: January sixth defendants, regardless of their charges or their convictions, 632 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 5: because unlike the kid glove handling of Hunter Biden, who 633 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 5: was never subjected to a pre dawn armed raid by 634 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 5: the counter Terrorism Task Force, like all these J sixers are. 635 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 5: I know you saw the ring camera video I just 636 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 5: posted the other night of an FBI SWAT raid at 637 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 5: six o'clock in the morning, just this past October, of 638 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 5: a J six subject. So Hunter Biden wasn't subjected to 639 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 5: the torment the J sixers, especially those on non existent 640 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 5: charges right concocted charges. He was handled with kid gloves 641 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 5: the entire process. He did not face the true criminal 642 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 5: charges that he should have starting with the violations. But 643 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 5: I do think Bock it is a gift to the 644 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 5: president and to J six defendants because it does it 645 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 5: has created momentum for a blanket amnesty for J sixers, 646 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 5: regardless of their accusations against them. So to that point, 647 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 5: I think it's helpful because there is internal and external 648 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 5: debate as to what a pardon for J sixers look like. 649 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 5: Of course, the easy, low hanging fruit. You know, the 650 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 5: nine hundred or so who have been charged with misdemeanors before, 651 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 5: common misdemeanors that are not violent, that have never been 652 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 5: used in this capacity or wait previously and never will again. 653 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 5: So it's easy to pardon those. But there is some 654 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 5: dispute about how to handle those who were charged or 655 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 5: convicted with assault school police officers. Well, even those who 656 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 5: were charged or convicted had to face this highly partisan, 657 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 5: rigged legal and judicial system in Washington At You and 658 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 5: I and clave been talking about for years. They were 659 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 5: all of their due process rights were violated by the government, 660 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 5: by the judges, and of course by jurors, which is 661 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 5: why the DOJ has a one hundred percent conviction rate 662 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 5: before Washington BC juries. Why because they are all Democrats 663 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 5: who hate Donald Trump and his supporters. So from beginning 664 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 5: to end, Bock, this has been a rigged system. No 665 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 5: American should have fased. It violates our constitution. It violates 666 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 5: everything that we're about. And that is why I pulief 667 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 5: support able to depart in and if Joe Biden can 668 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 5: do it for his son covering eight years, then I 669 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 5: think the president and his team can do it for 670 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 5: they now almost sixteen hundred JA six defendants. 671 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 3: What are something you mentioned someone who just had a 672 00:35:54,520 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 3: SWAT team arrive recently and for J six related eect 673 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 3: What are some of the sentences that have been handed 674 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 3: down for people for what is essentially assault on a 675 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 3: police officer. I mean, just to give us a sense 676 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 3: of what some of these what some of these you know, 677 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 3: judges have decided is fair when it comes to Trump 678 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 3: supporters and an assault on a police officer. I have 679 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 3: a feeling it was very different when it was BLM 680 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 3: supporters assaulting police officers, which we all got to watch 681 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 3: for an entire summer in twenty twenty. 682 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 1: But give us a sense of. 683 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 5: That, right, So to your point the letter, all charges 684 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 5: against BLM and Antifa, all federal charges were dropped by 685 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 5: the DCUs Attorney and the Department of Justice. So anyone 686 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 5: who was charged with assaulting police, and of course the 687 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 5: police were the bad guys. Back then, you remember that book, right, 688 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 5: there were congressional hearings from Democrats about park police and 689 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 5: Secret Service and how they treated those protesters who were 690 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 5: trying to you know, they burnt down part of Saint 691 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 5: John's Church across from the White House. They tried to 692 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 5: scale the White House Spence, but the bad guys in 693 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 5: that scenario were the police officers. January sixth, they again 694 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 5: assaultant and a tax protesters standing outside. They weren't doing 695 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 5: anything close to what the Elmina people were attempting. To 696 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 5: do in twenty twenty. Yet they received medals, They received, 697 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 5: you know, praised by the President. They were considered heroes, 698 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 5: not the villains if they were just six months previously. 699 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 5: But to your question, egregious sentences handed down for those 700 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 5: accused of confrontations with police. Five seven ten years in 701 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 5: federal prison for a man named Tom Webster, a former 702 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 5: New York Police New York City Police Department officer. He 703 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 5: was on detailer graasing mansion. He's a former marine, has 704 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 5: never been in trouble in his life. He confronted a 705 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 5: thug DC Metro police officer who repeatedly was shoving a 706 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 5: woman down the steps outside the Capitol. He got in 707 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 5: a confrontation with the police officer. He called him a communist, 708 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 5: don't attack American citizens. Nonetheless, the judge only allowed the 709 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 5: jury to see the confrontation with mister Webster in the 710 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 5: DC police officer, not what that police officer had been 711 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 5: doing ten to twelve minutes previously. Thomas Webster immediately convicted 712 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 5: one of the first trials in Washington in the spring 713 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 5: of twenty twenty two. Sentenced to ten years hard time 714 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 5: in federal prison. Never had a criminal record now there's 715 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 5: nothing comparable, not only in Washington, DC for a case 716 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 5: like first all kind of police officer, in the entire country. 717 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 5: So again, the sentences, like every other part of this 718 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 5: prosecution is so such a double standard of justice and 719 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 5: it just cannot cannot stand, and I don't think that 720 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 5: president in the end will allow it to stand. 721 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 2: Do we have any sense, truly, are you hearing anything 722 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 2: from your your sources and people in Trump circles that 723 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 2: you talk to about whether we can expect some in 724 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 2: an action right because this is the harm, especially for 725 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 2: those incarcerated, is a day to day thing. 726 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: It's every day. 727 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 2: So every day after Trump takes office that nothing has 728 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 2: happened is another day that they are suffering. Do we 729 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 2: have any indications as to how quickly these pardons may 730 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 2: come down or we just don't know? 731 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I I it's an issue. I think it's 732 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 5: a priority. I know that it's a priority with the 733 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 5: team and with the president. You know, it's you're it's 734 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 5: very complicated because you do have people who are in 735 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 5: federal prison. You've got hundreds of them in prison right 736 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 5: now on various charges or about to be sent to prison. 737 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 5: You know they're not stopping this. So I think that 738 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 5: there are very intense internal discussions as to what can 739 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 5: be done on day one. I fully expect something will 740 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 5: be done on day one, and then how it will 741 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 5: proceed from there, what the proper venue is, whether Attorney's office, 742 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 5: whether it's mean justice, you know how the rest of 743 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 5: those cases, convictions and those in prison especially are handboth. So, 744 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 5: but you're right, every day that goes on is another 745 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 5: day that that incarcerated defendant and his or her family 746 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 5: member suffers. And I don't think that that sort of 747 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 5: suffering is something the president and his administration is going 748 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 5: to want to prolong. 749 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 2: Declassified is Julie's sub stack. Go subscribe, Go check it out. 750 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 3: Julie Kelly, assuming this parton comes down, you got to 751 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 3: come on the show and talk to us that day 752 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 3: about what it's like for all the individuals you've been 753 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 3: trying to advocate for and work with up to this point. 754 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 3: I mean, I would assume, and I don't want to 755 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 3: get ahead of ourselves here, but I would assume there's 756 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 3: going to be a lot of tears of joy from 757 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 3: people who have had their lives given back to them. 758 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 5: It's going to be an absolutely historic moment, but also 759 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 5: just personally, you know something that I think about now 760 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 5: all the time, what this is going to mean for 761 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 5: these people and their families. And yes, I definitely would 762 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 5: love to come back on when that happens in any 763 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 5: future action take again to free these political prisoners. 764 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: Julie, Tell everybody Julie, thank you so much. 765 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 5: Take care, but thanks. 766 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 3: The Preborn Network of Clinics deserves our donations all year round, 767 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 3: not just on a week that includes giving Tuesday. 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Find it in their podcast feed 794 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 6: on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 795 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in. 796 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 2: I just saw report in New York Posts saying not 797 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 2: a single senator is opposing Pete's nomination. 798 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: So it's looking like Pete's going to be a NEXTEX 799 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: very defensive area. 800 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 2: It's not official, not official, I shouldn't obviously not official 801 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 2: until he has. 802 00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: The job, but it is looking good. For him right now. 803 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 2: We had we have him on Capitol Hill. We're not 804 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 2: going to play it because you really, those of you 805 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 2: who spent time in Capitol Hill. No, it is just 806 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 2: echoes everywhere in those hallways, on the marble steps. But 807 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 2: I can tell you Pete said he was asked by reporters, 808 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 2: he's with his wife. He said, I spoke to Trump 809 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,800 Speaker 2: this morning. He said keep fighting. 810 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 3: Pete's insisting he's not going to back down and he's 811 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 3: not going to let the media do this one. So 812 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 3: it looks like those senators who were having you know, 813 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 3: maybe maybe Lindsey. 814 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: Graham just wanted some attention. 815 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, they were having some problems 816 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 3: again with some of the stuff that had been reported, 817 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 3: some of it alleged, some of it fact, but they 818 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 3: were having issues with whatever. Or maybe they just thought that, 819 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 3: you know, having a guy who's not former board member 820 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 3: of Raytheon or something as Secretary Defense is a bad idea. 821 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 3: But anyway, it's looking good for Pete. Happy for happy 822 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 3: for my friend, and I think that that will be 823 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 3: fantastic if it if it goes through. So a little bit, 824 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 3: you know, this morning, it was starting to be you 825 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 3: had you had Graham, Urkowski, Collins, Ernst. I didn't mention this. 826 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 3: Jony Ernst was kind of ify on it from what 827 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 3: I had seen, And it looks like Pete with his 828 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 3: up on Capitol Hill, he slipped it around. So that 829 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 3: means it's looking good right now from a Senate confirmation point. 830 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 3: He still has the President's full backing, and so my expectation. 831 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,919 Speaker 1: Right now is that Pete's actually going to get through. 832 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 3: We've also got the big Supreme Court oral arguments this 833 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 3: morning on the trans surgery for minors issue, and I 834 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 3: just want to note they call it gender affirmation. 835 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 2: Surgery, And isn't that so interesting? You're supposed to use 836 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:49,879 Speaker 2: a term that effectively seeds the argument it is affirming 837 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 2: their new gender, as if it is possible to really 838 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 2: do that. 839 00:44:55,640 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: You can't actually change genders. It's not a thing they know. 840 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 3: And they'll say, oh, but gender and sex are different. 841 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 3: I know, they get into all they twist and turn 842 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 3: and all this stuff. 843 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 2: They'll say that, and then they'll say that a man 844 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 2: who identifies as a woman should be able to get 845 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 2: into a boxing ring with a woman and just absolutely, 846 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 2: you know, beat her into a coma. And then that's 847 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 2: fair because she's actually a woman. Right, So they'll say, oh, 848 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 2: they get into all this sort of campus Wesleyan or 849 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 2: Brown University faculty lounge talk about gender and identity and 850 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 2: all this stuff, but ultimately it's no, this is a 851 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 2: woman now, and you have to say it's a woman. 852 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 3: And we've seen where it goes, right, We've seen the 853 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 3: slope is very slippery. You have to remember that people 854 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 3: say slippery slope fallacy, it's actually not a fallacy. The 855 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 3: slope is very slippery. 856 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: And we have. 857 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 3: Matt wallsh who's done great work on this. Lots of 858 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 3: respect for what he's done on this issue. He's taken 859 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 3: a lot of heat for it. He's got a lot 860 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 3: of death threats for it. He's out there in front 861 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 3: of he was obviously isn't live. He was out there 862 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 3: in front of the Supreme Court speaking on this issue. 863 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 3: You'll hear their activist sort of shouting and trying to 864 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,879 Speaker 3: stop him from being able to speak. But I think 865 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,720 Speaker 3: it'll be clear enough to use. We want to play 866 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 3: some of it. 867 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 2: Here's here's Matt Walsh on why this gender transition law 868 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 2: are banning the gender transitions of miners in Tennessee is 869 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 2: an absolute moral necessity and a legal necessity for the 870 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 2: court play. 871 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 8: We recognize three very basic truths. First, that biology is real, 872 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 8: It is immutable. It is not subject to the whims 873 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,879 Speaker 8: of any individual or government or medical organization. Men are men, 874 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 8: Women are women. 875 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 1: That's all there is to it. 876 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 8: You cannot change a person's biological identity, you cannot change. 877 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,479 Speaker 1: Their sex, and you should not try. 878 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 8: Second, that the most essential and fundamental duty of any 879 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 8: society is. 880 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 1: To protect their children. 881 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,720 Speaker 8: A country that cannot or will not protect its children 882 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 8: is a country that deserves. 883 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 1: To die and will. Children are their innocence and helpless. 884 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 8: They know very little about themselves, very little about the 885 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,839 Speaker 8: world around them. The third truth is this that gender ideology, 886 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 8: the radical leftist doctrine that claims that girls can be 887 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 8: boys and boys can be girls, and that such an 888 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:19,240 Speaker 8: impossible transition could be made possible through irreversible drugs and surgery. 889 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: Gender ideology is deeply sinister. 890 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 8: It is a unique threats to children in particular. 891 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,320 Speaker 1: He's right all. 892 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 2: Three points, and Matt has been on this issue for 893 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 2: a long time and understands that they're always shifting and 894 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 2: always changing the arguments to avoid the obvious truths in 895 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 2: front of your face. Right, They're always trying to make 896 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 2: this about, Oh, there's some other external entity, some other 897 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 2: organization that blesses this. Therefore you can't think about what's 898 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 2: really going on, or this is about being kind, even 899 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,040 Speaker 2: though it's not about being kind. It's about people telling 900 00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 2: you that you have to live a lie, you have 901 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 2: to live their lie. Essentially, the fact that this has 902 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,399 Speaker 2: been able to go as far as it has, which 903 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,880 Speaker 2: we're now at the phase already where they have put 904 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 2: men and women's prisons, men and women's sports, men and 905 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 2: women's locker rooms, this is what is inevitably was going 906 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 2: to turn into. And I remember this from over a 907 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 2: decade ago, when I would talk about this on my 908 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 2: show in the early days, I said, you know, this 909 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 2: is there's no way they're going to stop here because 910 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 2: the unchangeable logic immutable, the unchangeable logic of this, the 911 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 2: enduring truth is that what they are telling you doesn't 912 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 2: make any sense. 913 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: And if it. 914 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 2: Doesn't matter, for example, what your genitalia is, and society 915 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 2: is not allowed to make rules that separate people and 916 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 2: treat people buy their gender and treat people differently. If 917 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 2: society is not allowed to do that. Why does some 918 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 2: effort to change genitals signify a change in gender? They 919 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 2: have no answer for this. They don't even attempt to 920 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 2: answer this, and you know, I know that they will 921 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 2: occasionally play this game. They try this sometimes and say, 922 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 2: what about individuals who are intersex, which is a very 923 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 2: rare but real medical condition where you have some formation 924 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 2: of both male and female parts. It can manifest itself differently. Well, 925 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 2: those generally in those cases they based upon the development 926 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 2: of those characteristics. The person ends up living as either 927 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 2: one or the other. And that's not what the transagenda 928 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 2: is about. That's not because that's an incredibly rare condition 929 00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,359 Speaker 2: and that's something that is medically that is real and 930 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,240 Speaker 2: that does happen. 931 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:02,800 Speaker 1: But no, they want. 932 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 2: People who have lived their life for twenty you know, 933 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 2: they're in their thirties, their forties. 934 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 3: They say, well, now i'm a woman, you have to 935 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 3: treat me like I'm a woman. It's very rarely that 936 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 3: it's and I shouldn't say's very rare, but it's more 937 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 3: rare that it goes in the other direction, or a 938 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 3: woman wants to be mad. Though the lawyer who argue 939 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 3: this before the Supreme Court falls into that category. If 940 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 3: this was just about individual adults making choices, then I 941 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 3: could see how a lot of people come to the Okay, 942 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 3: well it's fine, let people make their own choices conclusion. 943 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 3: But it never is that. And this is what I 944 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 3: was talking to Clay about before he had to jet. 945 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 3: They want you to start. This is why the pronoun 946 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 3: thing is so important. The pronoun thing is so important. 947 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 2: Because it is a concession right off the bat, and 948 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 2: they say, be polite, use the preferred pronoun, use the 949 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 2: preferred announce your pronoun. So now everyone does this, normalize pronoun, 950 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 2: announce smith, so that then everyone is doing it, so 951 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 2: then it feels like it's just this thing that's out there, 952 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 2: and then people can choose what they want. And it's 953 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 2: all a concerted campaign. When we know that in a 954 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 2: just normal society to look at some as that's a he, 955 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 2: that's a she, you know, and in a very rare moment, 956 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 2: if you don't know, you ask, and you get to 957 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 2: the biological reality of it real fast because you can 958 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 2: tell by their voice, you can tell by their facial features. 959 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,919 Speaker 2: I mean, this is not this is not really as 960 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 2: complicated as they want to make it seem. But ultimately 961 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 2: it comes down to power, because the power to make 962 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 2: you say things that you know are untrue, the power 963 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,359 Speaker 2: to make you go along with lies and to make 964 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 2: you celebrate them, to make you believe them, is the 965 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 2: ultimate political power. I mean, this is what totalitarian systems want. 966 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 2: For example, right this, this is something I've made quite 967 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 2: a study of. 968 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. 969 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 2: Maybe it's in my next next, it's in my book 970 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 2: which will be coming out in the fall, well Sotalitarian 971 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 2: systems always have to be built upon lies and the 972 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 2: forced belief in lies, because once people no longer are 973 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 2: even entitled to parse what is true and what is false, 974 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 2: you can tell them and make them believe or make 975 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 2: them live their lives as though they believe absolutely anything. 976 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 2: And if we're going to be a society where a 977 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty pound man with you know, a 978 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 2: beard and chest hair, who grows his hair long and 979 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 2: gets his fingernails painted because this stuff does happen, says, 980 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 2: you know, I'm a woman now, and you have to 981 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 2: just go along with that. And if you're a woman, 982 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 2: or if your daughter is a thirteen year old, she 983 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 2: has to change the same dressing room and she this 984 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 2: is where we have to draw a line. And Matt 985 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 2: Walsh is completely correct. I think the Supreme Court is 986 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 2: going to draw this line just on the issue of 987 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 2: gender affirming care, which is another way of saying, you know, 988 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 2: gender transition surgery, sex change operation is what we used 989 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 2: to call them. I mean, interesting, why don't we call 990 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 2: that anymore? Ah, because you're changing it. Notice they wanted 991 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 2: to be affirming it. The language is very important here, 992 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 2: which is just like what the pronoun thing. The language 993 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 2: component matters gender affirmation, that's what you're supposed to call it. 994 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 2: They're not illegal aliens, they're undocumented. Just give them documents 995 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 2: and then everything is fine. Right, So now, actually they're migrants. 996 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 2: Now you've noticed they've they've completely even gotten beyond the undocumented. 997 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 2: Now it's now migrants is the new term. And I 998 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,400 Speaker 2: even find myself using it sometimes because unfortunately, unfortunately, and 999 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,239 Speaker 2: people argue with me on this, but they're wrong. Some 1000 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 2: of the people who are here entered illegally but are 1001 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,720 Speaker 2: not currently in an illegal status because they are pending 1002 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 2: an asylum hearing, and our law lets them do that, 1003 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 2: so that you know, and you could say, oh, but 1004 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,439 Speaker 2: they've lied. Yeah, well, that's what the hearing is for. 1005 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 2: So anyway, this is why I think the gender issue 1006 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 2: is so important to the left as well. And this 1007 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 2: is another one of the games they play, why do 1008 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:06,399 Speaker 2: you care about it so much? 1009 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:07,400 Speaker 1: They'll say, well, why. 1010 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,919 Speaker 2: Do they care about it so much? They're the ones 1011 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 2: that have made this a big issue. I know, I'm 1012 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 2: not sitting here saying that there should be trans individuals 1013 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 2: competing against men in sports. You know, I'm not the 1014 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,479 Speaker 2: one pushing this or sorry, competing against women in sports, 1015 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I just think it's 1016 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 2: so important that we're able to say what is true. 1017 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:31,800 Speaker 2: If we lose what is true, what's the point of 1018 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 2: free speech? If we lose what is true, what's the 1019 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 2: point of the First Amendment? 1020 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 1: And you know that's you know, that's where it is. 1021 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 2: Look, man, it's so much of a seesaw here. I'm now, 1022 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 2: I'm not going to people telling me some inside it's 1023 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,239 Speaker 2: so hard. This is all an info, op, right, And 1024 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 2: I'm just going on what people are telling me that 1025 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,360 Speaker 2: they've heard from other people. But now I'm hearing a 1026 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 2: couple of senators are getting a little uh uh oh, no, 1027 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Well they're they're they're they're gonna be hmm. 1028 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta parse this a little bit. 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