1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: The following he's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This he's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Elliott following to the goal line, SA 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Coscott Pictures and now your hosts, I say a stand back, 6 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: Patrick Walker and Kyle Yeoman's. I feel like this drop 7 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: is just building the anticipation. Okay, welcome in to Talking Cowboys, 8 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: presented by a Black Rifle Coffee Company year from the 9 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Happy holidays everybody. As we are turning 10 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: the page to the Christmas Eve matchup with the Philadelphia Eagles, 11 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, welcome it in there. Hated NFC East of 12 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: Visional foe to AT and T Stadium coming up on Saturday. 13 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: Don't like him at all. Chris Beam in the back 14 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: with the extra production work. This morning, we've got Patrick 15 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: Nose Walker. Yeah, you know Beamer. He just muted it 16 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: on the program, but he's back there, just still rocking 17 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: with it. If people wasn't you're ready for NFL game, 18 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: like to play a game. I wonder what his pregame 19 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: ritual will be to listen to ritual? Have one, everybody 20 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: has one. I'm forty four years ago. I stretched a 21 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: little bit. That's a good one, coach, you know how 22 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: that is. Stretching matters. Yeah, that's a good feeling it 23 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: for a week later. Stretching matters. So And honestly, if 24 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: you guys don't know what Beam does on game day, 25 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: he's running up and down the sidelines already. He's doing 26 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: some stuffuns according how what would be your pregame ritual? 27 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: I like to lock in, like listen to music. A 28 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: little bit of music. You listen to a little bit 29 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: of everything. Oh so a little jazz, nuh? I mean 30 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: it's got to be a little harder than jas country. No, 31 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: I don't think I would listen to like hard country. 32 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: This is exactly what I listened to that's in the 33 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: background right now. This is what it'd just be me like, 34 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: sitting there with the headphones on. I would be very worried. Now. 35 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: I think it'd probably be like R and B. What 36 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: a little R and B, A little wrap R and B. Yeah, honestly, 37 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm all over the place, dude, I see that. Man, 38 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: I loved it. What about your expect Well, what I 39 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: used to do. Yeah, come home, tell the people school, 40 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: college days, a lot of people, um well, depending on 41 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: the sport, but definitely hard rock too. For football, I'd 42 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: walk the field pregame barefoot, barefoot, so I feel the 43 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: blaze of grass, kind of get completely into the I 44 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: think the more we learn about you, Patrick, the more 45 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: you stepping on a nail one morning makes a lot 46 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: of sense. Yeah I didn't. I didn't say it didn't 47 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: make sense that I am so upset with myself. So 48 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: I will ask why would you do? Because this morning 49 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: I was like like driving and I'm like, you hunting 50 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: drop I need to get is the falls back? I 51 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: need to get that drop. That's just for this moment. 52 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm so that's me connecting with the field. So avatar, 53 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: so you're your avatar, and pre game, I have the 54 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: headphones zone, I have the music own by the way, 55 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: that's a really good movie. Yeah, yeah, worked out, but 56 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: it's not sponsored. So so I walked to the football 57 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: field bare foot pregame with my headphones zone, and I'd 58 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: be literally envisioning the plays that I wanted to make 59 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: in that game. So, you know, because as you think, 60 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: you create. So that was my football pre game ritual. 61 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: I had a different ritual for each sport though. What 62 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: was yours? I was turned? Yeah, yeah, I was turned. 63 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: That does not my headphones on, Like I'm in my 64 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: own zone. I don't really talk to nobody. I've just 65 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: got my music on my playlist. Is it is random? 66 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: So you weren't like bippity bopping in around the locker 67 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: room the same way that you do. Like you do 68 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: with the pregame studio, we get pretty litt in the 69 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: studio pre games. See on air media pregame and on 70 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: field pre game two totally different things. Yeah, on air 71 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: media pre game, I'm turning up with all my with 72 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: my crew. You know what I'm saying. We gotta be 73 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: linked up. We gotta be a throw things to each other, 74 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: pick it up. On field, I'm in my own zone. 75 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: You know I got my I got anything. I got 76 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: past the Troy, I got a little John, I got 77 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: come on, man, come on man, you know I got 78 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: you got t Yeah. I gotta be crawling on the 79 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: ground a little bit. And then I go outside and 80 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: I hit my lap. Okay, I hit my lap around 81 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: the field, and then I do a back put around 82 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: the field and I do my shuffles, and I do 83 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: my whole little you know, active warm up, and then 84 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: I go in there and I get stretched out and 85 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: get the chiropractor work okay, and then I get last 86 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: up and let's go. Let's fancy chiropractor work. You gotta 87 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: get loose, man, I gotta have loose hips, loose hips 88 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: and ships. Maybe is that a saying is now? It 89 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: is not? Yeah? And all the ship's going on, hey man. 90 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: So everybody has their pre game. I'm just I'm your 91 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: jazz and country. Hard country is kind of surprising to me. 92 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: I didn't say hard country. You said that. I didn't. 93 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: I would rather say I would say hard rock. Your 94 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: DMX talking, I had Little John Passage, Troy Dmax, Donnie mclark. 95 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: It was It's dark and hell is hot. The intro 96 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: to you remember you remember Headstrong by Trapped back in 97 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: the day, you remember Headstrong, I remember his strong Strong 98 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: with the song little I mean no different, Yeah, different, 99 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: one different Headstrong. There's a couple of them. DM mixed 100 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: intro is dark and hell is hot. Every single time 101 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: you to one to come through, run to run through. 102 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what. And as serious week as this is, 103 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go into the locker room and 104 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: be like, hey, guys, what's your what's your pregame ritual? Absolutely, 105 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: what's going on, especially on in your head? Especially speaking 106 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: of which should it's apropos, because it should be it's 107 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: dark and hell's hot, get into it. Get speaking of 108 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: Let's go into some news and notes. Cowboys facing the 109 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: Eagles on Saturday. They both hit the practice field yesterday 110 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: because it technically was like a half day where it 111 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: was late and the players came in and got a 112 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: little walk through in, but there was an injury report 113 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: to kind of pick through. There's walk through from both teams, 114 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: So take the injury report with a grain of salt. 115 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: But there are some positives, specifically for the Cowboys Jake Ferguson, 116 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: who remains in concussion protocol and he did not practice 117 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: at all last week. He returned in a limited capacity 118 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: on yesterday. So progress for Jake Ferguson as he attempts 119 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: to get cleared from concussion protocol. And I will say 120 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: there's a side note that is also related to Jake 121 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: Ferguson that I take it as a side note. So 122 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: on the practice squad, the Cowboys due to the short 123 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: term injury to Lvee. They resigned Malik Jefferson to the 124 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: practice squad, So Malik Jefferson is back to make room 125 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: from Elie Jefferson. They really Seth Green the tight end. 126 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: My thought process is you don't release a tight end 127 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: from the practice squad if Jake Ferguson is not trending 128 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: toward possibly playing against the Eagles this week, So kind 129 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: of keep an eye on that. I think those two 130 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: things are related as far as Seth Green and Jake 131 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: Ferguson are concern But Elie Jefferson is back. Jake Ferguson 132 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: limited durance, Armstrong knee limited nor brown foot, but he 133 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: was limited. He did participate. Jay Ron Curse, same shoulder 134 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: issue he's been dealing with, but he was limited into 135 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence whole body but no literally foot is what 136 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: it's listed as limited. He's going to play. Michael Parsons 137 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: did not participate with guess what fella's illness that the 138 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: bug just won't completely go away, will not the Cowboys 139 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: locker room, So keep an eye on Michael Parsons will 140 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: see if he participates in practice on today's Wednesday. Yeah, yep, Okay, 141 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: short weeks, so yeah, during the days off going to 142 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagle side of the equation, as expected, Jalen 143 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: Hurts older Sprain did not participate. Gardner Minsh who did 144 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,559 Speaker 1: not participate either, but he was excused for personal reasons. 145 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: I believe he was at the Mike Leach Yeah, I 146 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: think he was. I believe he's at the mic Leach 147 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: Memorial Um. But he's expected back in practice on Thursday 148 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: or Wednesday. I'm sorry. See the days Zach Pascal concussion protocol. 149 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: The wide receiver did not participate in Cavana, while it's 150 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: the safety with a hip injury did not participate. So 151 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: four dnps for the Eagles, most notably Jalen Hurts the 152 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: shoulder and it is now officially. We were trying to 153 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: figure it out because there were conflicting reports yesterday, even 154 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: though the video was pretty obvious. It's listed on the 155 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: injury report as right shoulder everywhere, but here it talking 156 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: cowboy because we watched the film. So it is official. Boom, 157 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: it is a shoulder sprain in his throwing shoulder, which 158 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: exponentially decreases the odds of him taking the field on 159 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: a short week against the Cowboys. Okay, so today we 160 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: preview the Cowboys defense versus the Philly offense. They wos 161 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: one guy potentially in Jalen Hurts. They get one guy 162 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: back in Dallas Goddard. He is now activated and back 163 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: and ready to play against Dallas. So with that being said, 164 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: how significant is this for the Cowboys or I mean 165 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense Philly offense, but Philly offense is really 166 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: kind of what I'm leaning toward. How significant is it 167 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: the fact that they will not have Jalen Hurts? Is 168 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: he that big of an impact player? Yes he is, 169 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: Yes he is, and he is that big of an 170 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: impact player. I'm just asking the question. I'm not I'm 171 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: not leading. I don't agree, but I mean, so, yes, 172 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: he is that great of an impact player. He is 173 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: that important to that organization, much like a Dak Prescott 174 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: is that important to the Dallas Cowboys. But much like 175 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, they were able to Dallas was able 176 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: to get the Doves while while Dak was out. So 177 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: don't expect the Philadelwi Eagles so just all of a 178 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: sudden not to be able to find a way to 179 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: get w's with Jalen Hurts potentially out. These guys are 180 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: still a threat. These guys are still dangerous, These guys 181 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: still have weapons. Right, if this is true, if Jalen 182 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: Hurts cannot play, then Michael Parsons, you have an opportunity 183 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: to prove your statements that you had last week. Right 184 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: when it comes to Jalen Hurts. Here here's a little 185 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: bit of science as far as his science. Right, this 186 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: is a guy who has he's the second leading rusher 187 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: on the team, behind only Miles Center, seven hundred forty 188 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: seven rushing yards. This that's pretty good in it. That's 189 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: damn yeah. Science especially that's good for a running back 190 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: deep he's a quarterback. He also has thirteen rushing touchdowns, 191 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: leads the teams in rushing touchdown. Yeah, that's all just 192 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: through fourteen weeks. Weeks, ye're just averaging almost a touchdown 193 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: a game, almost a rushing touchdown a game. And that's 194 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: not to mention what he does in the passing game 195 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: with a J. Brown and Devantae Smith and you know 196 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: Dallas Godard, whin Dallas Goddard was on the field with him. 197 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: So to answer your question and simply put yes, Jalen 198 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: Hurts is infinitely more valuable to what the Eagles have 199 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 1: done than Dallas Goddard's return with being that's why the 200 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: Eagles continue to win without Dallas Goddard. Not to say 201 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: they don't need Dallas Goddard because obviously he's a playmaker 202 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, but if you're weighing the two against 203 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: each other, the loss of Hurts wildly outweighs the readdition 204 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: of Dallas Goddard. But like Aziah said, this is a 205 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush scenario for the Philadelphia Eagles, which is it's 206 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: just poetic justice, right because the Eagles beat up on 207 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush for three interceptions and one day game, and 208 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: now in the rematch, the Cowboys will likely be up 209 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: against the Eagles back up, and let's see what the 210 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys can do against the Eagles back up. But Garden Missue, 211 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: like Cooper Rush is serviceable if we need some games 212 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 1: and he's got the weapons. If there wasn't video of 213 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts getting hurt, like if there wasn't like a 214 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: clear play where you could say, oh, yeah, yeah, Jalen 215 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: Hurts a little banged up, and then watch the rest 216 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: of the game and it's like, oh yeah, he's a 217 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: little banged up playing through it, I would think this 218 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: would be total game and gamesman's ship from Philly, and 219 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: it still might be. Who knows. I don't think it is, 220 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: but it might be. There's like a point one percent 221 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: chance you're seeing but shit, you think about it, you're thinking, 222 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: like you said poetic Justice, Cooper Rush was there the 223 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: first time around. Now it's Gardner Minshew and this is 224 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: gonna be great. And then Jalen Hurts trots out there 225 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: on Saturday. He's ready to roll like that would that 226 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: would blow my mind. That'd be such a Philly thing 227 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: to do. So I think Jalen Hurts is a difference 228 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: maker because of a couple of reasons. One, he takes 229 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: care of the football. Secondly, he provides an element to 230 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: that offense that isn't necessarily there without him. But where 231 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: is the drop off? Most notable between Jalen Hurts and 232 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, Isaiah, because you mentioned it yesterday, you like Minshew? 233 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: Do you like him as a quarterback as a guy 234 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: who comes in and is serviceable. If you can do 235 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: a lot of different things, that makes you great if 236 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: you're good, where is the drop off? Because Gardner Minshew 237 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: is in Jalen Hurts for a reason, you know, I 238 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: mean versatility. You talk about not only confidence within the 239 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: organization and within the roster, trusting him to be able 240 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: to execute, make plays and things of that nature. You know, 241 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: and then you have to look at the scheme. What 242 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: is their scheme? RPO zone read those types of things. 243 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: Can Minshew do that? I'm sure he can. Can he 244 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: do it to that level? No? I mean you know 245 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: what's say. I mean, anybody can really run that stuff. 246 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: He's athletic enough to run the RPO A type offense. 247 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say their gardner Minshew is athletic enough to 248 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: run that offense. Is he going to run it to 249 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: the same level of a Jalen Hurts, Absolutely freaking knot. 250 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: So that is why there's a huge drop off there. 251 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: Can he make those same throws that Jalen Hurts can make? 252 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. He doesn't have that strong of an arm. 253 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: He's not as accurate as him. He is a backup 254 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: quarterback for a reason. He's been that in everywhere every 255 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: stuff that he's made. That's no disrespect He's still one 256 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: of the best in the world, just not a starter 257 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: in the league. I believe that when I say, when 258 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: we talk about the worst serviceable, I think there's some 259 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: guys that are serviceable, and I think that there's some 260 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: guys that are serviceable, but you can still run your offense. 261 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: I think Dallas had to change their offense with Cooper 262 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: Rush at the quarterback position. I don't think that Philadelphia 263 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: changes their offense that drastically with Gardener Menshoe at quarterback. 264 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: Now are they going to ask him to run the 265 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: ball as much? Are they gonna tell him that, hey, 266 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: you have the full availability to pull this thing whenever 267 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: you want to. I don't think he's gonna have as 268 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: much freedom nowhere near it, probably, But I think that 269 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: they're still gonna keep the identity of their offense. So, yes, 270 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: you're looking at a different quarterback. Yes, you're looking at 271 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: somebody who's not as capable. But I think, like I said, 272 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep going back to the statement Michael May 273 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: because he made it right. He said that Jalen Hursts 274 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: is only only noticeable because of the fact that he 275 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: has all the talent around him. Well here's your chance. Yeah, 276 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: we're finding it out right. Well, for me, it's it's 277 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: everything as as said, you know, period, I mean exclamation point. 278 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: He nailed it on all points point number one. Primarily, 279 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: it's it's the rushing attack. There's a huge difference there. 280 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: So while you will probably see a couple of RPOs 281 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: because Menshoe does have enough athleticism to run them. If 282 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: you're the Cowboys defense, if you're any defense going against 283 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: Gardon Men's shoe versus Jalen Hurts, are you afraid that 284 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: he's going to take it to the house. No, you 285 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: are deathly afraid that Jalen Hurts is gonna make somebody 286 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: miss and end up turning that, you know, three yard 287 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: third down conversion into a sixty five yard touchdown because 288 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: it can happen and then in the air, like Isaiah 289 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: so eloquently said, while Gardner Minshue can make all the throws, 290 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the arm strength, he doesn't have the 291 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: cannon that Jalen Hurts has. So it's just it creates 292 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: a situation where the dynamic of the level of threat 293 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: that Jalen Hurts presents it's just simply not presenting in 294 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshue. I don't I don't think that the Eagles 295 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: will change their playbook, but I could see similar to 296 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: what the Cowboys did with Cooper Rush, they put a 297 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: cap why, they scaled it back quite a bit, So 298 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: that's going to that should ideally theoretically make it easier 299 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys to skiing because they don't have to 300 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: scheme as much of the Eagles playbook. So again, advantage 301 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys with an asterisk. Gardner Minshue can still win you games, 302 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: and he still has a lot of weapons around him. Yep. 303 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: You got to prepare the same way whether it's Jalen 304 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: Hurts or Gardner Minshew. And this defense has a lot 305 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: of things, a lot of things that they have to 306 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: fix from week fifteen into week sixteen. We're gonna start 307 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: naming those things when we come back. Where is the 308 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: biggest impact needed from the defense this week and the 309 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: biggest improvement on dan Quinn's unit when we come back 310 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: with more talking Cowboys right after this. 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We gotta get beam ro a DJ 356 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: dropped like gangster grills or I like the beat, then 357 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: do it like a like it's an air horn. Uh, 358 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: did you guys hear about this story? Oh yeah, yeah, 359 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: Isaiah just handed it to me. But I think it's 360 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: really corny. Eagles sent thirty five cheese steaks to Doug 361 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: Peterson and the Jacksonville Jaguars for beating the Cowboys Sunday. 362 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: They did, they did, they did fire that guy, but 363 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: here's some chee steaks. Yeah, we're being five. I think 364 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: it was I don't know why thirty five because they 365 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: couldn't afford more. It was a staff member that sent 366 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: because they couldn't afford more. So that might be right, honestly, 367 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: But the the thought process there said, of course that 368 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: Jags did the Eagles a favor, which is true, they 369 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: did the Eagles a favorite. But I thought absolutely they did. 370 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: But Twitter hold me that you know from Eagles fans, Yeah, 371 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: that they're not thinking about the car, they don't think 372 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: about they don't think about the couple. They don't know. 373 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: And then oh, okay, I get it. You're a lame 374 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: get after Patrick, You're lame I love it when Patrick 375 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: takes his Twitter drama and brings it onto the show. 376 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite things ever. Cornballs just corn balls, right, 377 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: all right, corn balls, stay away from the back of horses. 378 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: Focus on that. Goodness, they know what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah, goodness, gracious, Um, 379 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: where's the biggest improvement needed on this defense going into 380 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon? From week fifteen to week sixteen? Where do 381 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: you want to see the defense take the next step 382 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: this week? Secondary just gotta be the secondary. Um, you 383 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: want the run defense to short self back up. But 384 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: what I will say is, more often than not, since 385 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: the Green Bay game, the run defense has showed up. 386 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: Now we'll see, you know, how they try to replace 387 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: the production of LV. We'll see how that works. But 388 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm more inclined to look at that secondary outside of 389 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: Trevon digs Well, more specifically the cornerback position, because I 390 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: like what the safeties are doing. So if you look 391 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: at CB two in that role specifically, that's the Achilles 392 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: heel right now, that particular question mark cost the Cowboys 393 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: at least two touchdowns against the Jacksonville Jaguars, and you 394 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: take away just one of those touchdowns and the Cowboys 395 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: win this game, let alone take away two of them, 396 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: and now it's an open competition, as it should be. 397 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: But now the question mark becomes okay, well, first it 398 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: was can Calvin Joseph do it? So it looks like 399 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: he's struggling in that, so they opened up the competition. 400 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: So now the question mark shifts over to which one 401 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: of you guys can do it? Right? So, if it's 402 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 1: not going to be Kelvin, you're looking at the Seawan right, 403 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: possibly Israel mcquamo. You're looking at McKinsey, Alexander, you're looking 404 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: at treyvon Mulling, you're looking at Kendall Sheffield, and you're saying, hey, 405 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: one of you guys show me something. Otherwise the Cowboys 406 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: might be in a position where they might have to 407 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: do what they don't want to do, which is moved 408 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: to Ron Bland to the outside and blank and play outside. 409 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: But then it leaves you exposed at the nickel. Yeah, 410 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: so you don't want to move to round. You want 411 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: to solve the problem at CB two. So for me, 412 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: that's it CB two. Okay. I like it. Secondary is 413 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: a big one. I respect it. I'm not gonna agree. 414 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm going with the Yeah, I'm going with a defensive online. 415 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: We have to this run defense. This run defense was 416 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: a problem before. Who before who showed up? Hankins, Hankins 417 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: showed up. You gave up two undred yards, You gave 418 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: up two hundred yards right against Green Bay. And then 419 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: you go out there and you grab a Johnathan Hankins 420 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: and you come out in the first game had two hundred. 421 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: But after that it was like nineteen seventy eight something 422 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: like that against some of the best backs in the league. 423 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: I think teams were afterging less than ninety yards per game. 424 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: When after after one week after Hankins showed showed up 425 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: into Dallas, Okay, so he had an impact, an extreme impact. 426 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Johnathan gets Hankins gets hurt, and 427 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: what happens one hundred and ninety two yards on the ground. Okay. 428 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: So if you can't stop the run against Philadelphia, I 429 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: don't care who's that quarterback. Anybody can hand up ball off. 430 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: Anybody can hand the ball off. So yes, yes, the 431 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: secondary definitely needs to be addressed, and that's definitely something 432 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: that we have to scheme up. I think you can 433 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: scheme it up. I think al Harris can ask us 434 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: guys to get up there and be more physical than 435 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage so that they don't have the 436 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: opportunity to get downfield, or that that timing is at 437 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: least disrupted, which and then then turn gives your defense 438 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: a front time to get in the backfield and get 439 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: to the quarterback regardless of who's throwing the ball, and 440 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: it gives you opportunity to get tip balls because they're 441 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: gonna be more contested because your guys are all over 442 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: them like sticky Rice. Okay, so I think that that's 443 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: an opportunity. But I think that the defense up front, 444 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: if you any team, especially in Philadelphia, if they're allowed 445 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: to sit back If Gardener Missue is a quarterback, he's 446 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: allowed to sit back there and hand the ball off, 447 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: and no matter who he hands it off to, they 448 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: get yardage. You're in a world of trouble. I like 449 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: it in real quick at this And going back to 450 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: your question Kyle about the drop off between Jalen Hurts 451 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: and Garden Missue, Well, guess what, now you don't have 452 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: to even remotely worry about worrying about putting the spy 453 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: on Garden Missue, which now frees up a guy like 454 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson to be able to help and run support 455 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: as opposed to dropping down with the sole purpose of 456 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what direction Jayala Harris is going. 457 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: So now you have that extra guy that you can 458 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: kind of done and run. So that I like that, 459 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: and based off of both of your answers, it actually 460 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: goes to the point that there are multiple parts of 461 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: this defense that have to improve. Because you said secondary, 462 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: you said run defense, I would even be inclined. I 463 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: think I would agree with secondary, maybe a little bit, 464 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: because that's something that needs to be fixed, but I 465 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: would throw the pass rush in there too. From week 466 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: fifteen to week sixteen, this is supposed to be the 467 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: strength of your team. This supposed to be an unstoppable force, 468 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: whether it's Micah or Drance or d Law. And I 469 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: know some of those guys are banged up, and I 470 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: know teams are scheming to go against those guys by 471 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: getting the ball out quick or by running the misdirection. 472 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: That type of stuff. You have to be better at those. 473 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: Set the edge, get around, get home. It's so I 474 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: don't disagree with you, but I disagree with you in 475 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: a sense that a pass rush is only you can 476 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: only take advance of the opportunities that presented to you, 477 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: which is which is if team you Yeah, if teams 478 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: are dropping back right, you're talking about in the five 479 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: step drops, seven step drops or from the gun three 480 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: step drops, five step drops right from the gun, you 481 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: have time to get back there. You have time to 482 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: beat the guys up front. But if you don't have time, 483 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: if you don't have two seconds to get in the backfield, 484 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: you're not You can't get sacks, which puts the pressure 485 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: on which unit the second are. Absolutely unless there's no 486 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: there's no need for a pass rush at all, because 487 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: there's no passes. You know, you don't saying what I'm saying. 488 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: So now you're running the ball. If you're if you 489 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: can't stop a team from running the ball, they're simply 490 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: handing it off to anybody. I don't care who's in 491 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: the back A J. Brown, It doesn't matter whoever wants 492 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: to get the ball Sanders and then guess what comes 493 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: off of that play action. It's what works for a privilege. Yeah, 494 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: pass rush is a privilege. So I don't disagree with 495 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: you that that we need to get home. But teams 496 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: have ever since, every since the first Philly, every since 497 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: the first Philadel. Sure they know how to stop this 498 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: pass rushing and if I'm a OC, I'm not letting 499 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: you get back there time. Kind of playing to my 500 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: point though, where when Jacksonville was running the football and 501 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: when teams outside of that or after that Philadelphia game 502 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: have been running the football? Where have they been most 503 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: successful in doing so? Outside the tackles getting to the 504 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: edge misdirection. I think the bigger plays come there. I 505 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: don't think that that's solely where teams are going. I 506 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: think that's where they go. Well, they're not solely going, yeah, yeah, 507 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, but there were fifty nine yards 508 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: on plays like that out of the one ninety two, 509 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you. And then the rest of 510 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: there was like thirty from scrambles, there was some other 511 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: things that kind of makes in between. They think the 512 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,239 Speaker 1: bigger plays come on the outside, so they're highlighted more 513 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: so they stick out more in your mind. But the 514 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: more effective place, right, the ones that beat you down 515 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: are the setups or are their battle rams right down 516 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: the middle. Those are the four yards, right, the ones 517 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: that you okay, whatever, right, the money they hurt it, right, 518 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: So four yards four yards, three yards right, four yards, 519 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: and it just beat you up about five yards, okay, 520 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: and then guess what. Now I'm going to the outside. Now, 521 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: everybody says, focused on the inside. Now I'm gonna beat 522 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: you up on the outside. I'm gonna get to the 523 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: edge pulling guard is pulling tackles, pulling both of them. 524 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: And now I'm have my big chunk play. And then 525 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: guess what, come right back to the middle. Right, I'm 526 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,239 Speaker 1: do the boring, boring, boring, boring, boring. The same thing 527 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: with TP and Zeke. Yeah, right, Zeke gets the boring plays. 528 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: He gets the boring plays, the four yards and the 529 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: cloud it does. Nobody thinks twice about those. Nobody gives 530 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: him credit for those. Right. That's why Skip Pete comes 531 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: walking to the locker room laughing. Talk about how you 532 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: like that, because he's like, this dude beat you up, right, 533 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: and then guess what then, oh crap, the bolt of lightning, right, 534 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: Chauzam comes in and he hits you on the outside. 535 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: Now that's yeah, that's the one that you remember. Everybody 536 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: remembers the TP, the big fifty forty fifty sixty yard run. Yeah, 537 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: but nobody wants to think about Zeke doing Black Adam. Yeah, 538 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: here for getting Black Adam. There's too many comic books 539 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: now they got fired? Did you know that? Too many? 540 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: Did you know Superman got I don't have that conversation, 541 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: So I don't want to have that conversation. How are 542 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: you gonna have an appearance in black because he got fired? 543 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: They don't get parted? Ways, don't get me started in 544 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: part ways. I know, I know what it was. They 545 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: brought him back and then James Gunn has now taken 546 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: over with dc you when James Gunn's version of the 547 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: DCU would not include which sucks. But Cavo had the 548 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: agreement with the previous regiment. Must have found the kryptonite, 549 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: must have found it somewhere. It's in a clause the dude, 550 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: I was a hard note was a touch point for 551 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: you there, Let's not talk about let's talk talk about 552 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: the son of it. But shouts out to Henry, we 553 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: still have the witcher my friend, you always have the Witchery. 554 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: That's my Superman's technically, Chris Reeves is my Superman. What 555 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: do you think about the conversation though? In terms of 556 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: outside running attack and then the inside game because it 557 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: does differ. I agree with Isaiah and the fact that 558 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: the big plays have come on the outside. There's been 559 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: these end a rounds, these misdirections. But you've got to 560 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: get better at setting the edge right. I mean, Dlaw 561 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: has been really good at it all year long. It's 562 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: not a setting of the and and so here here's 563 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: it's not a set of because the edges are getting 564 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: set right, edges and understand people need to understand. Is 565 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: you know you understand this? Who We watch a lot 566 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: of film together. Yeah, but edges get set. If you 567 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: want to just just classify its okay, let's bottle it 568 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: up right, Let's make sure nobody gets outside. Then what 569 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: happens those pulling guards, those pulling tackles, those tight ends 570 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: that are coming around and whand blocks, they're literally just 571 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: kicking out that containment. Yeah, you can contain it all 572 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: day long. Cool, stay out. I'm gonna kick you out right. 573 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: You want to stay on the outside and look at 574 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: everything down the line. I will send a two hundred 575 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: and sixty two or three hundred and thirty pound man 576 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: and he will just help you wash you out to 577 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: that side. And he guess what, we will go inside 578 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: of you and it will get right back outside. So 579 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: the whole containment thing is it's relative. It's yeah, very relative. 580 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: So here's the problem. The problem is right now going 581 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: into week sixteen. Right, you're both correct, But prior to this, 582 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: prior to the Jacksonville jack Wars, the main issue for 583 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: the run defense was setting the edge. We talked about 584 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: this at nauseum. Right. It wasn't that teams were having success, 585 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: and I feel you as far as the setup plays 586 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: up the A and B gaps, and teams would try that, 587 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: but it wouldn't be as effective as they would like 588 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: those effective plays to be, which is why they kept 589 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: protecting the edges. But when you look at this next 590 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: gen stats chart, and I'll turn this around for the 591 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: one shot, this is Travis et N. This is Travis Etn. 592 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Do you see this, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, 593 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: he won everywhere he went up to A gap, he 594 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: went up to B gap, he won outside. The only 595 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: time he lost was the fumble. But that fumble wasn't forced, No, 596 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: just dropped the just drop the football. So if he 597 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: actually successfully takes that hand off, he probably gets a 598 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: gainer on there and there would be no TFLs on 599 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: this chart middle, mid to outside or outside. So to 600 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: to you guys's point this week, the entirety of the 601 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: defensive line needs to make sure it's stepping up. The 602 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: linebackers need to make sure they're selling the edges as well. 603 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: So both of those things are a problem coming out 604 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: of Jacksonville. I don't know that i'd say, because it's 605 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: happened just once out of all of their run defense issues, 606 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: so it's not consistently enough for me to say, oh, 607 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: it's the middle. I still believe Nevill Gallum or Chauncey 608 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: Ghost and OsO Diggi Zul who's having a great day 609 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: a great season. Quentin Bohanna now that he's back, I 610 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: think this is gonna be his third game back, getting 611 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: his legs. I think the interior will be better against 612 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: this team that doesn't have Jalen Hurts to contend with, 613 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: But the linebacker corps is still going to be a 614 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: concern without Lvee. That said, when you say, Kyle very accurately, 615 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: that teams are getting the ball out quickly, quicker, quicker 616 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: quickly to kind of negate your pass rush secondary and 617 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: be it trusting these guys like you saw Trevon Diggs 618 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: pressing guys and you see Duran Bland pressing guys. But 619 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: the lack of trust at CB two has you pulling 620 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: guys back. Well, when you give that guy that kind 621 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: of space, now you're helping that West Coast style where 622 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: it's like drop back two steps by. 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Happy Holidays, everybody, I 690 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 1: love DJ Chris Beam in the back, just spinning the tracks, 691 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: Isaiah stand back, Patrick, No c Walker, the unmatched Chris 692 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman's Gentlemen, we got 693 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: a couple more minutes here, Isaiah. You watch the film 694 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: as much as anybody where does. Philly challenge you the 695 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: most offensively. Misdirection, misdirection the read. Everybody since Philly has 696 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: hurt Dallas or tried to hurt Dallas, hurts Dallas. Misdirection. 697 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: Everybody's attempted it. Everybody doesn't have the personnel, everybody doesn't 698 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: have the scheme because it's too far outside of what 699 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: they typically do. But since Philadelphia in the misdirection and 700 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: what it did to this pass rush, that's where they 701 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: hurt you, and they make you stop your feet. You 702 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: can't come down heel in the ring game, you can't. 703 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: You can't get a pass rush, You can't do containment right. 704 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: All the everything that you would do to combat what 705 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: they do hurt you because it leaves you vulnerable for 706 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: something else. You want to get containment running up inside, right, 707 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: you want to go ahead and god and attack the 708 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,479 Speaker 1: rundown the side. Okay, we'll throw it out to the side, okay, 709 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: or if you guess what you don't want to you 710 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: don't want to put any pressure on us, cool, we'll 711 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: throw it around. We got enough receivers. So they hurt 712 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: you in so many areas. But I think Dallas's biggest 713 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: touch point has been where to hecked you my eyes 714 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: go in the moment I stopped my feet to try 715 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: to figure out what the heck is going on. Now 716 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: my feet are stopped, their feet are still moving. They 717 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: have the leverage no matter where I'm gonna try to attack. 718 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: For me, it's it's similar to that in the aspect 719 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: of misdirection. But the Eagles they love making you second 720 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: guess and then making you second guess. All they need 721 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: is that window of reaction time to get the big 722 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: play or the big gainer. And that's where I feel like, 723 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: going back to the question of you know, what's the 724 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: drop off between Jalen Hurts and Gardner Minshew is what 725 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: will potentially help this this young secondary for the Cowboys 726 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: is the fact that you can play more traditional, straight 727 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: up football against Gardner Minshew because you don't have to 728 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: worry about covering your guy while trying to also keep 729 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: one eye in the backfield just in case Jalen Hurts 730 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: leaks out to try to extend a big play. Now again, 731 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, he can get out of that pocket and 732 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: make the play. But that's no longer your primary thought. 733 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: Your primary thought is I'm going to cover this guy. 734 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to trust my front seven to get after 735 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshue, whereas if it was Jalen Hurts back there, 736 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: it's okay, I still trust my front seven, but I 737 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: know that there's a good likelihood that Jalen Hurts, with 738 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: his speed and his strengths, can either just blow off 739 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: the edge or he can escape a sack and then 740 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: come off the edge. So while I'm sitting here trying 741 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: to cover this guy who I'm trying to keep in 742 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: my hip and he's moving all over the place, I'm 743 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: also trying my head. I'm splitting two different directions. That's 744 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 1: what the Eagles typically can do, and that's why they're 745 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: thirteen and one. But it also answers the question of 746 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: what they may not be able to do if Jalen 747 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 1: Hurts is not on the field, as we don't expect 748 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: he will be, Dallas can be more aggressive if Jalen 749 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: Hurts isn't there. So the non commit traditional, the non 750 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 1: committal to going downhill and coming out of the quarterback 751 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: and having to make your reads on all that, if 752 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts isn't there, you're more opt to be aggressive 753 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: to come downhill, to go out there and attack whoever's 754 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 1: that quarterback, because all of a sudden, you're not worried 755 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: about him getting outside of your leverage and making you 756 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: pay for the big play. That's facts. So do you 757 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: expect a better game then from the Dallas defense? Do 758 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: you respect a little bit of a rebound, because at 759 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: least from the early indications from what we're hearing on 760 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: the other side of the building is they're not happy 761 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: with the way they played these last two weeks. They 762 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: are not happy at all, nor should they be if 763 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: we're being honest. However, is this the week where you 764 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: see the rebound or are we going to see another 765 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: I was hoping to see the rebound regardless, I thought, 766 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: regardless of who's that quarterback, I would hope that Dallas 767 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: would have a better game against Philly than they've had 768 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: over the past few weeks, or even then when they 769 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: had the first time that they that they've faced the Eagles. 770 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: So my expectation is the same, I guess, but if 771 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is not there, I expect them to be 772 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: more dominant than what they would be regardless of which 773 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 1: quarterback is or was going to take the field. I 774 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: expected to bounce back from the Cowboys, because you you 775 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: have to bounce back from allowing five hundred yards and 776 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: thirty four points. You have to you have to do it. Uh. 777 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: And this is also a Cowboys team that I've said 778 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: it before. They've not lost two consecutive games at all 779 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: this season. Uh, there's only you know all the Eagles 780 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 1: are one of the only other teams that can make 781 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: that claim. So this is a team that has shown 782 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: it can be resilient, and I believe that it was 783 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: going to happen this game regardless of who the QB was. Now, 784 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: the question is, to to Isaiah's point, what kind of 785 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,399 Speaker 1: a bounce back are we talking about? Are we talking 786 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 1: about only allowing you know, three hundred yards? Are we 787 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,919 Speaker 1: talking about only allowing two twenty five? Oh, that's dominant. Yeah, 788 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying, Like, that's that's what I'm asking. 789 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm asking what kind of what kind of bounce back? 790 00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: Is it a solid bounce back where you look at 791 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: them and say, okay, still some question marks, but they rebounded, 792 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: they got some things together. All we're talking about just 793 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: they're so pissed and they go all the way from 794 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: the left side of the field, which is thirty four 795 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: points allowed five hundred plus yards to three to seven. 796 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: I don't hold these guys on under three hundred yards offense, Yeah, 797 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think this under three hundred would 798 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: be a monument that's with Hurts. Monument with Hurts. I 799 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: don't think you could. But I don't think it's that 800 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: much of a drop off. I really don't. I think it. 801 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: Hurts is a good quarterback, don't get me wrong. Formidable 802 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: versus serviceable, see, but I don't think he's formidable. I 803 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: don't think he's that good. Jaylen. No, and as a 804 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: total pack, I think he's got a built roster around him. 805 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: I think Jaylen Hurts is a good quarterback. You are 806 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: he is not in the elite? Huh. You believe what 807 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: Michael Parker said, Yeah, I agree, I agree. I disagree. Okay, Well, 808 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 1: but I scouted him coming out of college and I 809 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: felt like that back then too. We can take the individual, 810 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: because I'm saying I don't believe he's elite, but they 811 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: get the individual, formidable form of individual in this system, 812 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: and that's where people get lost. People get so keyed 813 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: in on the on the player and their skills said 814 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 1: and what they can do as a person and say, Okay, 815 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: this person in any system would not be in. But 816 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: we're not talking about any sense. We're talking about in 817 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: this offense. Yeah, he's a complete problem. And I don't 818 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: think he's a true system quarterback either. I think he 819 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,439 Speaker 1: helps make the system what it is. I think he's 820 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: a good enough player to where he makes a difference. 821 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,240 Speaker 1: But I just don't think the drop off from Jalen 822 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 1: Hurts to Gardner Minshew is monumental. I don't think it's 823 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Big it is. It is a 824 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: big deal. That's what I'm trying to say. I'm not 825 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,439 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take away what Jalen Hurts has done. 826 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: I'm trying to limit the what's the bigger drop off 827 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,479 Speaker 1: DAC to Cooper Rush or Jalen Hurts de Minsheu Jalen 828 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: Hurst Demenshu. Yeah, I think so too. Yes, I don't know. 829 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: I would. I would yes because of style of play alone. 830 00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: If you look at nothing but style of plays fair, 831 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: then it's the bigger Okay, that's fair because it's a 832 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: different style of play completely. Whereas Cooper Rush has spent 833 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: seven years in this organization, he's been around for long 834 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: enough to where the playbook doesn't drop off. You can 835 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: play a similar style as Dak Prescott without the legs. 836 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I would agree with that. Here's here's a 837 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: fun question. I'm just I don't think it's as far 838 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: apart as people think, though I don't think it's gargantic, 839 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 1: but it's still a big I mean, you could used 840 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: to wear a big it's a big drop off. Here's 841 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 1: a question, just fun. I'm curious about you guys, think 842 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: UM better overall player Jalen Hurts in twenty twenty two 843 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: or prime RG three. I'm bold so Prime RG three 844 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: was this rookie season where he was he was bawling 845 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: the Rookie of the year RG three. I'm the wrong person. 846 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm the wrong person. As ACT three was my favorite player. 847 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: That was my favorite collegiate player of all time. I 848 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: love watching Margie three. Okay, time behind as stand back 849 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 1: back in the day, I was a Baylor fane. I'm 850 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 1: not saying he's the best. I'm saying he was my favorite. Yeah, 851 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: that's different, different conversation. Reggie Bush was unbelievable. Yeah he 852 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: was up there too, and I didn't even like USC. 853 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: But that's how good Reggie Bush was. Just so you 854 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: guys know, the least amount of yards that Dallas has 855 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 1: given up all year long has been two hundred and 856 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: thirty nine yards. That was against the Rams. Okay, so 857 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: you're saying this about Tom They're due. Answer? Why are 858 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: you making me answer this question? I want to hear it. 859 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm curious RG three in his rookie season. What about 860 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: you better as a player. I didn't pay that much 861 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: attention to him, And be honest with you, really, yeah, 862 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: actually that was a false statement. Two hundred and fifty 863 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 1: four yards against the Bengals. I'm sorry. Okay, So they're 864 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: due and still do for a big game. Right before 865 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: we get out of here, guys, I wanted to pass 866 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: along our condolences to the family of the Steelers and 867 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: NFL legend. Franco Harris passed away this morning, known for 868 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 1: the Immaculate Reception, passed away at seventy two. And it 869 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: was interesting. I was looking yesterday they're the debuting A 870 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: Football Life, the documentary series on the NFL network about 871 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,439 Speaker 1: Franco Harris on Friday, and he passed away this morning, 872 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: and it was it was nearly about the debut and 873 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,320 Speaker 1: he was a legend for many reasons. I know this 874 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: is a Cowboys podcast, but that's an NFL legend. That's 875 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: a football titan, no doubt, absolutely, and some I mean, 876 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: one of the most incredible plays in NFL history was 877 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: because of what he was able to do. If you're 878 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: a fan of football, at a certain point, rivalries getting 879 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: pushed aside for the greatness of players, and Franco Harris 880 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: is one of those guys, no doubt, no doubt. But 881 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 1: I just wanted to mention that before we get out 882 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: of here, because you know, Steelers Nation, Steelers family out there, 883 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: they're they're hurting a little bit today on that one, 884 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: because I was the entire Harris family, Steelers organization, and 885 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: just everyone, whether you had the plays, you were being 886 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: in Franko's presence or not, you knew what kind of 887 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,879 Speaker 1: a human being he was, even outside of a football player, 888 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: and as a football player, he was a titan. So 889 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,720 Speaker 1: no doubt. All right, let's move on to tomorrow. We're 890 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,320 Speaker 1: gonna preview the Cowboys offense versus the Philly defense. What 891 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: kind of rebound can the Cowboys with Dak Prescott and 892 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 1: company have in that matchup? We'll talk about it tomorrow. 893 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 1: We do not have a show on Friday, so no 894 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: shows Friday, so we're gonna do our pick ms tomorrow 895 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: as well to get the job done. I'm sorry, Isaiah, 896 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 1: why are you looking to me? I want to work, Kyle. 897 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 1: I know you do. I want to work too, But 898 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: no shows on Friday, but we will be back tomorrow 899 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: with a sale with your chess. Thursday a rarity on 900 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys for Chris Beam, Djaba Beamer in the back 901 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,800 Speaker 1: for Patrick Nose Walker, Isaiah stand back. I'm Kyle Yeoman 902 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 1: saying so long from the start in Fresco. We'll see 903 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: tomorrow on Talking Cowboys. This has been a production of 904 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.