WEBVTT - Leaving Gaza

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<v Speaker 1>Also media.

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<v Speaker 2>As mass bombing continues across Gaza. Two point three million

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<v Speaker 2>Palestinians remain trapped in the Strip as the Israeli military

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<v Speaker 2>conducts a total blockade. Israel has cut off water, electricity,

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<v Speaker 2>and fuel while intentionally restricting humanitarian aid from being sent

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<v Speaker 2>into Gaza. This is it could happen here. I'm Garrison Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>On October seventh, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu gave a

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<v Speaker 2>speech addressing Palestinians inside Gaza. A part of the official

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<v Speaker 2>English translation of the speech reads, quote, all of the

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<v Speaker 2>places which Hamas is deployed, hiding and operating in that

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<v Speaker 2>wicked city, we will turn them into rubble. I say

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<v Speaker 2>to the residents of Gaza, leave now, because we will

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<v Speaker 2>operate forcefully everywhere unquote. Sentence in this speech was left untranslated,

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<v Speaker 2>but it roughly read quote, we will target each and

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<v Speaker 2>every corner of the Strip unquote. According to the UN

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<v Speaker 2>by last Thursday, October twelfth, about four hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three thousand people had been displaced from their homes by

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli air strikes. That's about twenty five percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>Palestinian population. Many sought refuge in crowded United Nations shelters

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<v Speaker 2>set up in schools, but even those shelters and hospitals

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<v Speaker 2>were attacked by air Last Friday, October thirteenth, Israel issued

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<v Speaker 2>a military order for all citizens in northern Gaza, including

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<v Speaker 2>Gaza City, to evacuate their homes within a twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>hour period, in apparent preparation of a major ground assault

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<v Speaker 2>on the besieged enclave. Over one million Palestinians live in

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<v Speaker 2>this area, it's almost half the population of Gaza. In

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<v Speaker 2>between bombings, Israeli military aircraft dropped thousands of leaflets into

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<v Speaker 2>Gaza City, advising civilians to immediately leave their homes and

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<v Speaker 2>the UN shelters, but not to actually try and leave Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>As the leaflet warned that if anyone approached the Israel

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<v Speaker 2>Gaza security wall, they would quote expose themselves to death unquote.

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<v Speaker 2>Israel laid out just a few roads that it was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be quote unquote safe to travel southbound. Thousands

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<v Speaker 2>of people in northern Gaza began to flee towards the

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<v Speaker 2>strip's southern half on Friday morning, but as they were

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<v Speaker 2>following Israel's orders, Civilian convoys transporting Palestinian families out of

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<v Speaker 2>Gaza City were bombed by the Israeli military at three

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<v Speaker 2>different points along the evacuation route. At least seventy people

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<v Speaker 2>were killed, with hundreds more injured by the Israeli airstrikes

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<v Speaker 2>as they were trying to follow Israel's impossible order to

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<v Speaker 2>evacuate everyone from their homes in just twenty four hours

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<v Speaker 2>between Netanyahu's speech and the evacuation order of northern Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>This leaves people questioning where exactly are these people supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to go. A Palestinian in Gaza told the Associated Press quote,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't flee because anywhere you go, you are bombed. Unquote.

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<v Speaker 2>Gaza isn't that big. It's only twenty five miles long,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's completely surrounded by Israel and the Mediterranean Sea

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<v Speaker 2>save for a small section on the southern tip, which

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<v Speaker 2>borders Egypt with Israel, sealing off access to Gaza. The

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<v Speaker 2>only way in or out is the Rafa border Crossing,

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<v Speaker 2>located at the southern end of the strip bordering Egypt's

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<v Speaker 2>Sinai Peninsula. The Rafa Crossing is a critical passage for

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<v Speaker 2>humanitarian aid and serves as a vital gateway between Gaza

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<v Speaker 2>and the outside world. One of the very first targets

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<v Speaker 2>of Israeli bombing this month was the Rafa border crossing

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<v Speaker 2>between Gaza and Egypt. It was targeted by three air

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<v Speaker 2>raids in a twenty four hour period, severely damaging the crossing,

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<v Speaker 2>preventing it from operating and resulting in fatalities. There's video

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<v Speaker 2>and audio of the bombings where you hear hundreds of

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<v Speaker 2>people make a singular scream. It's pretty gruesome. With Israel

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<v Speaker 2>undergoing a quote unquote complete siege of Gaza, this crossing

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<v Speaker 2>was the only way to send humanitarian supplies into the

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<v Speaker 2>Strip and to let willing refugees flee the assault. The

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<v Speaker 2>Egyptian Foreign minister has said that Israel has yet to

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<v Speaker 2>allow the reopening of the crossing. Egypt is expected to

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<v Speaker 2>assist in delivering humanitarian aid to Palestinians and the enclave,

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<v Speaker 2>but it has rejected proposals to accept fleeing Palestinians into

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<v Speaker 2>its borders. Both Egypt and Israel operate a blockade of

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<v Speaker 2>Gaza to strictly control the passage of people and supplies

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<v Speaker 2>going in and out of the Strip. There's no freedom

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<v Speaker 2>of movement to enter or leave Gaza, even when there's

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<v Speaker 2>not a declared war, one can't simply leave Gaza. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no Gaza airport, least not since two US and two Historically,

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<v Speaker 2>the Rafa border crossing into the Egyptian Peninsula was only

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<v Speaker 2>open to the public very sporadically and often for very

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<v Speaker 2>narrowly defined categories, such as medical patients, religious pilgrims, foreign residents,

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<v Speaker 2>or residents of Gaza with foreign visas or passports. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to tell you how hard it is

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<v Speaker 2>to leave Gaza even when there's not a war. Because

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<v Speaker 2>late last year, we interviewed two Palestinians for a still

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<v Speaker 2>upcoming episode that's being worked on. During the interview, they

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<v Speaker 2>touched on their own experiences escaping Gaza. So we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to place some of that interview for this episode, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll jump in occasionally to add some context. So here

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<v Speaker 2>is Ahmed Matar and Abdullah al Casab, athletes from a

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<v Speaker 2>PK Gaza, one of the most recognized parker teams in

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<v Speaker 2>the world.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Ahmad Matar. I'm twenty six years old.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm from Gaza, Palestine, and I do Barkour. I live

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<v Speaker 3>at the moment in Sweden because yeah, I'm open within

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<v Speaker 3>six years ago after I got invited for the Eraword Challenge.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a parkour competition that was organized in Sweden and Helsingburg.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, since that time, I just live in Sweden

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<v Speaker 3>because I just did not want to go back for

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<v Speaker 3>so many reasons that we can just talk about it

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<v Speaker 3>later in this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, I'm a tadler. I'm twenty five years old

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<v Speaker 1>and also in Barkour Athleta and I'm also right now

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<v Speaker 1>in Italy.

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<v Speaker 3>I do the chance to travel to Italy because I part.

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<v Speaker 1>Of bated in a in a movie or in a film,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the directory is in my village Gurosa. He's

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<v Speaker 1>an Italian movie. It's called more jumb But my friend

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<v Speaker 1>he was the main character. I was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>characters in the film. So we got a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>to to participate in a festival in si and it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really easy. It was really hard to do it

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<v Speaker 1>because because you know, having visa ahmed Alsos Dad, it's

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<v Speaker 1>we get a visa as a Palestinian and especially from

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<v Speaker 1>gethera city with something really really hard. And even though

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<v Speaker 1>it's about having the business about it, traveling outside Gaza,

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<v Speaker 1>something else this is also other, completely different story, but

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<v Speaker 1>we could manage that. And I've been here in Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>I came to participate in Sishida. First of all, me

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<v Speaker 1>and my friend we managed to get shing visa and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just for five days. And now I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>in Italy for almost eleven months. In the other city.

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<v Speaker 1>You when you were there, it is not you don't

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<v Speaker 1>really feel free as free, you know, because you're surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>all the time by so many obstacutes, you know, which

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<v Speaker 1>is which is really crazy and it drives even though

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<v Speaker 1>because we were really kids and we didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>really good childhood somehow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I remember since we were kids, we were seeing

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<v Speaker 3>the tanks or what is it called, Yeah, the tanks

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<v Speaker 3>that we were seeing it in front of the street,

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<v Speaker 3>and we were hearing bombs and shootings. And that was

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<v Speaker 3>before two thousand and five. That was like since I

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<v Speaker 3>was four years I could remember all of that moments

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<v Speaker 3>where the tanks are crossing our road and we were

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<v Speaker 3>seeing that attacks happening between people together, and bombs and

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<v Speaker 3>flights and drones and and that's something that for sure

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<v Speaker 3>affects us as a kid, that we we get the

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<v Speaker 3>fear whenever we see some bombs and just we want

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<v Speaker 3>to hide from the bombs and we want to be

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<v Speaker 3>close to the family. For me, all of these things

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<v Speaker 3>that happened around me affected me that I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>be that guy who would like to enjoy life. In

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<v Speaker 3>the same time, Gaza was a place that we had

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<v Speaker 3>the situation where we are the psychologically or how is

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<v Speaker 3>it called, like when you are affected by the situation

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<v Speaker 3>where you know that you are you can be dead

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<v Speaker 3>at a moment, or it can get a bump close

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<v Speaker 3>to you any moment, or someone close to you who die.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean kids the most important for the kids just

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<v Speaker 1>the more safety, and we didn't have safety. The safety

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<v Speaker 1>is what kids really want, you know all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when you're a kid, you just need your

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<v Speaker 1>mom or your dad next to you because you really

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<v Speaker 1>feel this kind of safety. But when we were kids,

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<v Speaker 1>we couldn't have this kind of feeling because even our

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<v Speaker 1>parents they were not really sure what might happen to

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<v Speaker 1>us or to them, so how they will protect us.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not really easy for anyone to protect the others.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, no one april to you know, to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something affected us for sure. Right, because we we

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<v Speaker 1>we we've grown up on such things like that. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>for me an hour, if you were talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>is maybe something usual, which is something normal, because I

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<v Speaker 1>really good used to it somehow, which is not normal.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it should have been normal for anyone, but

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<v Speaker 1>for us, you know, we could it kind of normal

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<v Speaker 1>because it's kind of we used to. And now when

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<v Speaker 1>I really because before I was really kids, so I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what but it's really going on. I was

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<v Speaker 1>really terrified and I was really scared, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what is really going to happen. But now when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of an adult and I know what is

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<v Speaker 1>really going on and I see the kids when when

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<v Speaker 1>because for example, the last four especially when I'm even outside,

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's completely completely different, you know, because when you're

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<v Speaker 1>inside Gaza, you with your family and your friends, top apply,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really different. But now when I can see how

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<v Speaker 1>the kids they are screaming, how the kids they they

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<v Speaker 1>they have this kind of feeling, you know that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they are very terrififiled with the poemps because it sneaks

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<v Speaker 1>to them. So I can really remember myself and I

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<v Speaker 1>just go through back, you know, the memory, the stories

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<v Speaker 1>that really happened, the memories, a lot of memories before

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<v Speaker 1>about that it was really crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to go on a quick ad break, but

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<v Speaker 2>when we get back, Ahmed will talk about his long

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<v Speaker 2>experience trying to leave Gaza. When Ahmed was younger, he

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<v Speaker 2>began to share videos online of his athletic skills, slowly

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<v Speaker 2>gaining notoriety around the world for his pretty impressive parker ability.

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<v Speaker 2>Soon both himself and Pik Gaza were being invited around

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<v Speaker 2>the world to perform a parkour or to enter into

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<v Speaker 2>parker competitions. P k Gaza was invited to the Arabian

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<v Speaker 2>TV show Arabs Got Talent, but they were unable to

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<v Speaker 2>go on the program due to difficulties traveling outside Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>During this time period, the Rafa border crossing into Egypt

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<v Speaker 2>was only open around six times a year and for

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<v Speaker 2>only a few days. To catch a flight out of Egypt,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to have all of your proper paperwork, tickets,

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<v Speaker 2>and a valid visa which lines up perfectly for when

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<v Speaker 2>the Rafa border crossing happens to be open, and you

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<v Speaker 2>have to also hope that you're not in the back

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<v Speaker 2>of the line to get through the border crossing because

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<v Speaker 2>they only let a certain number of people through each day.

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<v Speaker 2>Ahmed was invited to participate in the Red Bull Parker

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<v Speaker 2>Challenge in China and even successfully got a visa to travel,

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<v Speaker 2>but wasn't able to leave Gaza because the Rafa border

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<v Speaker 2>crossing was closed during the timeframe when the visa was valid.

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<v Speaker 2>The US based World Free Running and Parker Federation tried

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<v Speaker 2>to help Ahmed travel to the United States to participate

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<v Speaker 2>in the wfpf's twenty sixteen competition in Las Vegas, but

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<v Speaker 2>Ahmed was unable to get an American travel visa due

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<v Speaker 2>to long wait times to use the Northern border crossing

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<v Speaker 2>into Jerusalem, and even if you did manage to get

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<v Speaker 2>into Israel, it was quite difficult to receive a US

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<v Speaker 2>travel visa as applicants were frequently denied. A park Ori

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<v Speaker 2>Gym in Italy frequently invited Ahmed to participate in their

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<v Speaker 2>summer and winter events, but the Italian embassy denied requests

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<v Speaker 2>for a travel visa three times. In late twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>Ahmed got invited to the Air Whip Parkour Challenge in Sweden,

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<v Speaker 2>and with the help of some Swedish friends, he was

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<v Speaker 2>able to secure a travel visa in just two weeks. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>when Ahmed got the visa, the Rafa crossing was closed,

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<v Speaker 2>but by pure luck, just one day later it was

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<v Speaker 2>announced that the crossing would be reopening. When he went

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<v Speaker 2>to the crossing, he learned that there were thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>people in line in front of him, with the crossing

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<v Speaker 2>only he said to be opened briefly and the temporary

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<v Speaker 2>visa set to expire. It was not looking great. After

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<v Speaker 2>a very challenging series of events that Ahmed is about

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<v Speaker 2>to explain, he was able to get to Sweden and

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<v Speaker 2>just last year he started in a play about his

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<v Speaker 2>own life and his journey traveling from Gaza to Sweden.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell us a little bit about this. This is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be a play about your life that they're doing

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<v Speaker 4>in Sweden.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have had the premiere for the play in

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<v Speaker 3>ninth of May. So we have been doing the show

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<v Speaker 3>for a while now, like we have had eight performances

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<v Speaker 3>at the moment, and the play is about me with

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<v Speaker 3>my family and then my friends from Picky Gaza. I

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<v Speaker 3>also talks about the journey from Gazza to Sweden, which

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<v Speaker 3>was the biggest part of the play that yeah, talking

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<v Speaker 3>exactly about how it is to face the visa. There's

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<v Speaker 3>an embassy Egyptian control, Egyptian security when we get out

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<v Speaker 3>of Gaza, that they have to also a Palestinian side

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<v Speaker 3>that they have to interview. Was every if I have

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<v Speaker 3>the visa. Let's say I got the visa after some trial,

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<v Speaker 3>then I have to apply for the trouble which I

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<v Speaker 3>have to stand in the queue behind all of that

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<v Speaker 3>people who already applied before me, which is image nine

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<v Speaker 3>thirty one thousand, Mike, you number is thirty thousand. Then

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<v Speaker 3>I have to wait. And okay, let's say I got

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<v Speaker 3>in front of all of that people and today I

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<v Speaker 3>am here in the Palestinian side. Then this Palestinian side,

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<v Speaker 3>then RAPA orders have to interview me and check all

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<v Speaker 3>why do I need to travel? Show me your documents

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<v Speaker 3>if I have any mistaken my documents, and I go

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<v Speaker 3>back to Gaza. Even if all my documents, I have

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<v Speaker 3>the vision and everything. And then if you don't want

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<v Speaker 3>me to travel, then I have to stay in Gaza. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>let's say I did best the Palestinian side. I am

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<v Speaker 3>in the Egyptian security side, and there one time the

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<v Speaker 3>Egyptian security sent me back to Gaza after waiting. I

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<v Speaker 3>have the visa, and I was like, no, what are

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<v Speaker 3>you going to do. I'm going to do parkour. I

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<v Speaker 3>have a poor competition out what is parkour? Jump? Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>then you go jump back in Gaza. I have to

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<v Speaker 3>go back. And my family did not expect I would

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<v Speaker 3>be back in as because I was at home around

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<v Speaker 3>five am in the morning and I was a whole

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<v Speaker 3>day like waiting to get to the Egyptian side, and

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<v Speaker 3>then from there he sent me back and yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>the end, I mean, without the help I could, I

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<v Speaker 3>would not have to travel because thirty thousand people in

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<v Speaker 3>front of me. I have the Q number, but I

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<v Speaker 3>am behind them, and I have the visa that will

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<v Speaker 3>expire in two days. Like let's say that starts in

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<v Speaker 3>two days and it will expire in twenty days. And

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<v Speaker 3>if I don't travel in this twenty days, my visa

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<v Speaker 3>will expire and then I cannot travel with him. And

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<v Speaker 3>the only thing I had to do was like going

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<v Speaker 3>to the crossing the first day with my father. He

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<v Speaker 3>went with me and we just stand there in front

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<v Speaker 3>of the crossing. It's you know, there is a control.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a list with names that you cannot really

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<v Speaker 3>cross if you don't get any help. So I go

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<v Speaker 3>there and then we just waited around six hours, me

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<v Speaker 3>and my father. Then the sunset came and good dark,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he was like, I cannot do anything. We

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<v Speaker 3>have to go back. And then we went back home.

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<v Speaker 3>The day after my fight, tell my father live, can

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<v Speaker 3>we go? I have to travel. I have the visa

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<v Speaker 3>I just will expire. And then he was like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot do anything. He don't know what he will do,

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<v Speaker 3>my father. So I told him, okay, I will go

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<v Speaker 3>for the guy. We have a guy close to us

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<v Speaker 3>like that say my neighbor, but he's a far neighbor.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was the manager of the crossings between us,

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<v Speaker 3>like the manager of coordinating the visas or like the

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<v Speaker 3>list between US and Egypt. So he can really do

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<v Speaker 3>whatever he wants. He can enter Egypt whenever he wants.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a very friend between Egyptians. So he's the manager

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<v Speaker 3>of the cross he's the boss. So I go to

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<v Speaker 3>him and I wait him outside his car like so

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<v Speaker 3>I was close to his car waiting him to get

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<v Speaker 3>out of his home. I know he goes to his

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<v Speaker 3>work around eight in the morning. Then I wake up

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<v Speaker 3>at seven in the morning and I go there waiting

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<v Speaker 3>him to come to his car. I see his car.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I was really happy that he did not leave

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<v Speaker 3>to his work and I knew that he's still there

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<v Speaker 3>and I was waiting, waiting, and then he came and

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<v Speaker 3>then I show him my visa and I really have

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<v Speaker 3>to travel the competition and they have to join this competition.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he was like, okay, but have the Q number. Yes, but.

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<v Speaker 5>I am the last in the list. Okay, but how

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<v Speaker 5>will we do? I cannot tell you, but I have already.

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<v Speaker 5>I told him I have already been into Egypt before,

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<v Speaker 5>but the Egyptian security sent me back to Gaza and

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<v Speaker 5>he told me, do you have the registration of that

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<v Speaker 5>the time you travel? And I told him yes, and

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<v Speaker 5>did have that time, and it was okay, follow me

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<v Speaker 5>to the cross and I told him, yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 5>can I go with you in your car so you

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<v Speaker 5>don't forget me when you go there. Because he's very

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<v Speaker 5>like Beoble to just run after him and a crossing

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<v Speaker 5>Marianda there, I had to tell you, I want to

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<v Speaker 5>go with you, and he said, yes, okay, you can

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<v Speaker 5>come with me.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he told me, but you cannot stop. I

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<v Speaker 3>told him, can I stop her and say goodbye to

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<v Speaker 3>my family first, because they did not know that I

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<v Speaker 3>will travel. I just took a very small bag with

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<v Speaker 3>me in case. I really had like a tack bag

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<v Speaker 3>with me. And he said, yeah, but you cannot stop.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to go now. And then I was okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I called my mom, Mom, he's going to help me,

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<v Speaker 3>and but I cannot stop say goodbye. And then yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to the crossing and he put me into

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<v Speaker 3>like a viv list that I had to go like

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<v Speaker 3>in a very special past that was just five people

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<v Speaker 3>in it. And I was very like respected by the

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<v Speaker 3>control there and there was like I got all the

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<v Speaker 3>way today to Egypt. And in Egypt, I really met

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<v Speaker 3>the same guy that he also asked me about parkour

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<v Speaker 3>and he was like, oh you And then my friend,

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<v Speaker 3>the guy that manager of the crossing told me show

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<v Speaker 3>him what parkour is. I really had to go a

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<v Speaker 3>slept for him. I did a workst in that room

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<v Speaker 3>where he the control chick, and I was oh, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>so cool. Okay, here's the stamp enter to Egypt. But

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<v Speaker 3>I had to go into that airport. He did not know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the Egyptian don't understand the visa. Like if

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<v Speaker 3>it's in the visa, it says that it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>valid in this day. If it's valid in this like,

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<v Speaker 3>imagine I get the visa today, but it's not valid yet,

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<v Speaker 3>but the crossing is open today and tomorrow and the

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<v Speaker 3>day after. I have to travel in these three days.

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<v Speaker 3>Then the crossing will close for another six months. So

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<v Speaker 3>I had to travel in the days otherwise I will

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<v Speaker 3>lose my visa. So my visa was not valid at

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<v Speaker 3>that time. I traveled from Kazas, so he thought that

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<v Speaker 3>it's valid. So it was oh, go to the airport

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<v Speaker 3>now and travel from there. He thought that I can

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<v Speaker 3>travel to Europe directly, but if my visa is not valid,

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<v Speaker 3>Europe would not let me in. So I had to

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<v Speaker 3>stay in the airport that time that my visa was

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<v Speaker 3>not valid, which was five days and then and I traveled,

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<v Speaker 3>but I had to wait in the airport because he

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<v Speaker 3>did not understand my visa.

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<v Speaker 2>No one should have to do a Webster front flip

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<v Speaker 2>to cross a border. Because there was still one week

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<v Speaker 2>left until the visa became valid, Egyptian security sent Ahmed

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<v Speaker 2>straight to the airport to wait for the week. While

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<v Speaker 2>in Limbo. At the airport, the Egyptian authorities locked him

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<v Speaker 2>in a small room without his phone or his belongings

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<v Speaker 2>until the visa became valid. After many harsh difficulties and

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<v Speaker 2>compounding inconveniences, Ahmed boarded his plane for Europe. Ahmed has

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<v Speaker 2>built a life for himself in Sweden. He's been teaching

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<v Speaker 2>parkour classes there for years now. In fact, that's how

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<v Speaker 2>the play came about. The mother of one of his

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<v Speaker 2>students is a theater director and she became interested in

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<v Speaker 2>his story. By his account, life is much better for

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<v Speaker 2>him him now, but he still is not free to

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<v Speaker 2>see his own family or to go back to his

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<v Speaker 2>original home. Getting into Gaza is almost as hard as

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<v Speaker 2>getting out of Gaza.

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<v Speaker 4>And hopefully you guys can get back into your families too,

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<v Speaker 4>because I know that must be really difficult, being separated

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<v Speaker 4>and not being able to get back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's been six years almost.

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<v Speaker 4>Jesus said, yeah, that's really hard, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, dramat the theater. I've invited my brother and luckily

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<v Speaker 3>he got the visa from first time. He got help

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<v Speaker 3>from the same guy that helped me and asked them

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<v Speaker 3>and he put him into a special vest. He traveled

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<v Speaker 3>from Gaza with having doing and now he's here. Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't have to do a backflip in the visa.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I did not. Because he's an artist and he

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<v Speaker 3>had the visa and everything. So he got the visa

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<v Speaker 3>because Dramat in the Theater Center invited him to be

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<v Speaker 3>part of the show with his oh cool bas of

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<v Speaker 3>fabric that he drove. True. Yeah, Abdullah the same way

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<v Speaker 3>with the Yeah, if you don't have someone to help you,

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<v Speaker 3>you would not travel.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it shouldn't be that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Abdullah had to get it also held because his visa

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<v Speaker 3>also was also one week, one week and they have

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<v Speaker 3>to travel in that week, and he's named the last

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<v Speaker 3>of the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, Abdullah had some internet issues and some of the

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<v Speaker 2>audio isn't usable. But he similarly only made it out

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<v Speaker 2>of Gaza because he had a friend who had a

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<v Speaker 2>contact at the Italian consulate. When Abdullah tried to apply

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<v Speaker 2>for the visa, the office wasn't taking any more applications,

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<v Speaker 2>but this friend was able to explain Abdullah's situation to

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<v Speaker 2>the consulate and they decided to give him a travel visa.

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<v Speaker 2>Abdullah also had to travel through Egypt and was forced

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<v Speaker 2>to stay in a small presence well for three days

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<v Speaker 2>without food or water. Once he got to the Cairo airport,

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<v Speaker 2>the German airline he was booked on refused to accept

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<v Speaker 2>his paperwork because they didn't want the responsibility of stamping

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<v Speaker 2>his passport with the alternative of just going back to Gaza,

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<v Speaker 2>Abdullah was able to find a manager of sorts and

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<v Speaker 2>explain his situation with the travel visa and needing to

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<v Speaker 2>go to this film premiere for this Parkhorp thing. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the easiest thing to explain, not everyone knows

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<v Speaker 2>what parkhor is, but the manager was sympathetic, and then,

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<v Speaker 2>just like what happened with Abed, they requested a Parkourt

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<v Speaker 2>demonstration to see if this guy was actually telling the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>So the already exhausted Abdullah did a backflip in the

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<v Speaker 2>airport as he was recovering from the COVID vaccine, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the manager, seemingly satisfied, transferred him from this German

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<v Speaker 2>airline to an Egyptian airline and he was able to

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<v Speaker 2>make it to Italy and escape the prison of Gaza.

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<v Speaker 1>When when you're anyone who's in prison, the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>that he thinks about I mean, when you're a prison

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<v Speaker 1>for the whole life, I mean, the only thing they

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<v Speaker 1>think about is just have to escape. Now, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's normally because you just want to be free because

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<v Speaker 1>you're in prison.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never been into the prisons, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, I've never had no We both sall.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've been to the Brazen of Gaza, but

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<v Speaker 3>not the real.

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<v Speaker 1>Exact That's exactly what I mean. So we both we

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<v Speaker 1>were in a prison which is open, big prison, and

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<v Speaker 1>the only way that we were thinking about is how

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of that, and the owner was really

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<v Speaker 1>possible is just to use per four as an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>for us so we can get our freedom. And somehow

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<v Speaker 1>now you're in Sweden and me in Italy, we have

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<v Speaker 1>this grant freedom. But at the same time it's really

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<v Speaker 1>hard because our family is all friends and everyone we

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<v Speaker 1>still connected, so it's like still connected.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I mean, I was trying to meet my and

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<v Speaker 3>the last in this summer, and I applied for the

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<v Speaker 3>Egyptian visa. Because I still don't have the Swedish passports,

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<v Speaker 3>I have to apply as a Palestinian to go back

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<v Speaker 3>or to visit Egypt. So I applied for the Egyptian

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<v Speaker 3>visa to visit my family because my mother was in

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<v Speaker 3>Egypt and she was there to to attend the marriage

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<v Speaker 3>of my accent. But she was there in Egypt with

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<v Speaker 3>my sister and the Yeah, I applied for the visa.

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<v Speaker 3>I never with the visa, so I had to say,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's like I'm not free yet. Yeah, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I will get the Swedish passport soon. I don't know when,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm sure it's not more than six months from now,

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<v Speaker 3>because I have been applying. I have applied six months

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<v Speaker 3>ago and it's usually not more than a year to

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<v Speaker 3>get the decity. And usually it's accepted if you have

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<v Speaker 3>everything correct in the country, like if you're legal and

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 3>you pay attacks and working, you're studying and another language,

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm good there, Just like I have to wait. So

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 3>in the end I will be able to meet them.

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<v Speaker 3>I would not be able. I would not say I

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<v Speaker 3>will be free to enter Gazza whenever I want, because yeah,

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 3>to enter gas at the moment I hear from people,

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 3>it takes like three to four days and you suffer

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<v Speaker 3>in the way, just like you have to stay in

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<v Speaker 3>the car these three days and every thousand kilometers one

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 3>thousand meters, you get to stop by a control like

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 3>a road control that you need to check everything you have,

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 3>every bag you have, take it out in the road

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 3>and you have put it back by yourself, and then

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 3>the car continues another thousand another control, and then in

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 3>the end you arrive like Gus and you say, this

0:28:55.840 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 3>is the worst part of my Gaz because they don't

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 3>want to do it again. They don't want to get

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<v Speaker 3>to Gaza and suffer the same way again. I'm the

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 3>same to get out of Gaza. To get out of Gaza.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if I have the Swedish passport, for sure

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 3>I will have I will have the able to travel

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 3>from Gaza without worrying about getting a piece or not.

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 3>But in the same time, yeah, I need to wait

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 3>an aqueue when while I travel, When I will be

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<v Speaker 3>able to travel from Gaza, is it like gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>one month, two months, three months, because it's like thousands

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 3>of people who want to travel, and it just they

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 3>allow five hundred people a day and that's maximum, and

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 3>then I don't allow any more of that people. And

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 3>then also they they closed the crossing at any moment.

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 3>And I remember the time I traveled from Gaza was

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 3>the crossing was closed for six months to three six

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 3>months and it was none it was not open at all,

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 3>and it was started one thousand people in the front

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 3>of me in the queue, thirty one thousand. So I

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 3>imagine like I was the last person in the queue

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 3>and they have to wait all of the people to travel,

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 3>and the crossing was open just the three days every

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<v Speaker 3>three months. That means like in this three days, it's

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<v Speaker 3>one thousand, five hundred. When is the rest gonna travel?

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 3>And will I have to travel? And imagine you have

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<v Speaker 3>a visa that is valid for like ten days. If

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<v Speaker 3>you get the visa just for event in Europe that

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 3>is just three days, and then you get the visa

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 3>for ten days, and then if you don't travel in

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 3>that ten days, your visa get expired, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>have to apply for a new visa. And then after

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<v Speaker 3>that you have to wait because if you get refused visa,

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 3>you cannot apply directly. You have to wait six three

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 3>to six months and then you can apply for the

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 3>new visa. So it's really terrible, like I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to go through all of that process again. That's why

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 3>side stay in Sweden and work in Sweden and get

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 3>a Swedish citizenship where I can travel freely without worrying

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 3>about getting a visa or not. And because till now,

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 3>because I'm not Swedish, I have to think about getting

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 3>a visa or not. Will I be refuse this or not?

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 3>And even Egyptian embassy refused my visa and they did

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 3>not even answer me. I called them every day, did

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 3>I get the visa? When will you give me the visa?

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 3>I go to their officer in Stockholm the end like, oh,

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 3>you have to call us, send us an email, and

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 3>I call and send the in Oh, we will call

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 3>you when you get the visa. But will you call

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 3>me that if I don't get the visa. No, we

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 3>will call you when you get the visa. And then

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 3>I said to my mom, I'm not coming to they.

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that sounds rough. And I know for a long

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 4>time Abdallah was in Ghaza when you were in Sweden, right,

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 4>and Abdellah was trying to get the visa to travel.

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<v Speaker 4>Last time we spoke, you hadn't been able to get one.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm glad you did. I'm glad you're now a

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 4>film star.

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<v Speaker 3>You have been applying many times. Yeah, remember we went

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<v Speaker 3>together many times and they also like there is a

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 3>weird and also invited him and she had also and

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 3>they got refused viza. And I'm sure he applied the

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Folso to Italy and he applied for England. I also

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 3>applied Italy. I got refused Italian visa around four times,

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 3>and I got the refused visa from Norway Oslo. I

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 3>got some event in two that's thirteen and USA fight

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 3>did me like for Las Vegas and WFTF invited you

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 3>for an event in Las Vegas that they could not

0:32:54.080 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 3>make and also Germany Hamburg and Hannah Over they invited

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 3>me and there was many events that I could not make.

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 3>In the end I could make it to airwork. But

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<v Speaker 3>the first year of the airwork like they invited me

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 3>to fifteen and I applied for the visa, I did

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 3>not get it. And then the year after twenty sixteen

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 3>and he got the visa because I had the help

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 3>also from another private invitation. So I got double invitations

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 3>that it made it stronger for the consulate and the

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 3>embassy in jury residence the visa and it was like yeah,

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 3>it was twenty one days visa and directly when I

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 3>arrived with and as like my friend knew, I don't

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 3>want to go back. So they taught me to the

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 3>migration office in Helsingborg in Malmo, and there I extended

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 3>my visa for six months first and in that six

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 3>months I wanted to work and stay here, so I

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 3>started to look for a job. I started my own

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 3>jobs actually, like start to work with hardcore or myself,

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 3>like making classes that I was teaching in English. And

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 3>I had one of the students translating to the kids

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 3>in Swedish, so he was getting three classes. It was tough.

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 3>At that time. I was like it was hard for

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 3>him also to translate because he was not more than

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 3>thirteen years old. He was so shy and everything. And

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:33.320
<v Speaker 3>I was Forrest. Forrest to learn the Swedish language because

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 3>of that, because I wanted to work, and I just

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 3>started to know hands head and the food news and

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 3>it was easy because it was similar to English. And

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 3>by the time the kids had taught me to speak

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.919
<v Speaker 3>Swedish at the moment, because it was the only way

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:53.760
<v Speaker 3>I learned Swedish, it was my way to learn Swedish

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 3>was I was the kids all the time. The kids

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 3>language was the eighties to take like to back out

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 3>because the kids have a sample language that you can

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 3>really learn it much faster than talking with an adult

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 3>that talks really fast and talking very advanced Swedish. I

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 3>dreamed to travel from Gaza, and then I made it.

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.240
<v Speaker 3>I did travel from Gaza, and then you think, Okay,

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 3>what do I want to make next, and then I

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:22.839
<v Speaker 3>I want to work with Parkour, and then I start

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 3>working with Parkpur. I never expected that I would be

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:30.440
<v Speaker 3>in the biggest theater stage in Sweden, and then I

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:33.320
<v Speaker 3>am here in the biggest theater stage in Sweden. That's

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:36.319
<v Speaker 3>just like being overle come and watch my store and

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 3>watch me performing Parkour and telling my story to the

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:42.360
<v Speaker 3>It's like I never think thought about it, but just

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 3>Parkour brought back to me.

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<v Speaker 2>As an extra note, earlier this week, James spoke with

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<v Speaker 2>Ahmed and Abdullah, and as a few days ago at

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 2>least both of their families were okay. Obviously, this is

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 2>an ongoing situation, but I just wanted to add that

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 2>in here as that's the most up to date information

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<v Speaker 2>we have. Ahmed is still in Sweden, is still doing Parker.

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<v Speaker 2>You can find him at Matargaza on Instagram or his

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 2>website Matargaza dot com. That's Matargaza dot com. Abdullah is

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:19.760
<v Speaker 2>still in Italy and is studying to become an English teacher,

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 2>and just last February, Ahmed and Abdullah were able to

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<v Speaker 2>see each other in person for the first time in

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<v Speaker 2>quite a while. The documentary that Abdullah is in is

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 2>called One More Jump. It's about very similar questions on

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 2>whether it's worth it to stay and fight for your

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 2>country or try to escape and fulfill your dreams. Thank

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 2>you once again to Abdullah and Ahmed for talking with us.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll link their social medias in the show notes below.

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